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Speaker 2: Now, your hosts.

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 2: is Monday. We are back with another episode of Hanging

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Speaker 2: we are not an ox start. It's hot here in Texas.

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Speaker 2: Our captain Shannon is traveling and work. We'll get Nate

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Speaker 2: Newton on the phone here momentarily. But for Shannon, for Nate,

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Speaker 2: this is Kurt Daniels. I am Salt and Pepper Poppy.

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Speaker 2: We I need some they got that hot honey?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta get back to that. Or or we

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Speaker 2: need we need MO. If you're watching MO, you can

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Speaker 2: always send me some more money. I can get some

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Speaker 2: more ways for the guys, however you feel in that one.

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Speaker 2: But we are back training camp. It's still ongoing. Sad news,

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Speaker 2: sad news. Still no contracts. That's sad news. Still no contracts.

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Speaker 2: For the birthday boy, Dak Prescott turned thirty one years

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Speaker 2: old today. That would be a perfect birthday gift. If

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Speaker 2: I got a nice little contract, that would be the

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Speaker 2: birthday gift of all birthdays that you were able to

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Speaker 2: bring me in and I get to sign on the

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Speaker 2: dot of line and that thing say somewhere around fifty

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Speaker 2: seven fifty eight sixty sixty one million dollars per year.

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Speaker 2: Still no ceedee Lamb at training camp. He's still down

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Speaker 2: in Houston doing what he has to do. They sent

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Speaker 2: new deals in, they sent some new deals in supposedly

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Speaker 2: Jerry's still doing his Jerry thing in the media, trying

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Speaker 2: to do his thing. But the saddest news come out

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Speaker 2: of camp so far is linebacker slash rush in Sam

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Speaker 2: Williams tour his ACL and MCL yesterday doing a wasn't

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Speaker 2: even a full spilled, full speed driven contact non contract Yeah,

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Speaker 2: non contract deals working on the special teams drill and

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Speaker 2: uh he is out for the season. It hurts on

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Speaker 2: a number of levels. Yeah, this hurts on another. And

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Speaker 2: I just got told we got Nate Newton who was

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Speaker 2: on the ground, boots on the ground in ox SNAr, California.

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Speaker 4: Nate, you're with us, yes, sir, Yes, sir, And just

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Speaker 4: speaking on that same way. He was just coming down

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Speaker 4: ground and just you know how that is sometimes. Yes,

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Speaker 4: he just gave way. Man. He's like he was hit

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Speaker 4: by a shot or something. Man, he just he fell

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Speaker 4: man and it was over.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, the a CL and MCL done

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Speaker 2: for the year. Our thoughts and prayers go to Sam Williams.

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Speaker 2: But this is one of those things where you talk

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Speaker 2: different sports, but football in particular. This is why I

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Speaker 2: side with players, okay with when it comes to money. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is nothing happening. I know Sam is not due

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Speaker 2: Williams in a non contact drill, not even going full speed,

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Speaker 2: does not have the pads on. It's done for the year.

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Speaker 2: And while we have modern technology and medicine is at

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Speaker 2: speedy recovery for these for these high level athletes, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't change the fact that every time you get cut open.

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Speaker 2: While it may fix a problem, it does not make

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Speaker 2: you hold again. There is a part of you that

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Speaker 2: you don't know what the ramifications are coming from that.

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Speaker 2: All these different things that there's a year that goes

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Speaker 2: There will be no productivity from Sam Williams this year.

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Speaker 2: Now you may have another guy that comes into the

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Speaker 3: It's almost really a two year process for their full

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Speaker 3: he's not contract, but next year, I mean he's going

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Speaker 3: to be going into his contract dealings with very little

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Speaker 2: Yep, Nate, what was the energy or the sense of

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Speaker 2: what are the vibes right now in oxen Art?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know everybody was heard all this teammates man,

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Speaker 4: those uh, those two special teams, and when he went down,

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Speaker 4: Everybody back to business as usual because now you know

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Speaker 2: Chauncey Billups, Chauncey Billos.

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Speaker 4: If he's out there, tuble Chauncey Bills, Oh my god man.

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Speaker 2: But this is also one of the things that Nate

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Speaker 2: when that situation happens, you know, you know it's serious.

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Speaker 2: The drill doesn't stop. They just moved down ten yards

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Speaker 2: Bone's fossil just moved the drill down ten yards? Like so,

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Speaker 2: sure he had high expectations for himself. They got word

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Speaker 2: that's what you want. But now you're sitting there and

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Speaker 3: So we know that this is a huge blow to Sam,

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Speaker 2: How a little bit. It's not a little bit of

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Speaker 4: With reps, with reps. It's this. The bad thing about

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Speaker 4: uh this is we lost Sam William, a blow to

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Speaker 4: the civil lining, I should say, is for Hoko Lewis Uh,

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Speaker 4: better position, more reps. It's early enough in camp and

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Speaker 4: that boy, that's a civil lining. I mean they really

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Speaker 4: and who's out on the waiver of while who's not

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Speaker 4: that's the forty yard that's it, Move it down ten

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Speaker 4: yards and move it over you get more reps.

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Speaker 3: Son, how these guys looking like Kneelan and they're looking quick.

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Speaker 4: That's that's what has had me excited this camp. They're

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Speaker 4: Mozie was like the two quickest off just the quickest

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Speaker 2: talked about the Sam Williams injury in the first segment.

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Speaker 2: Just quick little kind of tidbit on that if the

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Speaker 2: ability to be recognized. We are living in a day

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Speaker 2: and time now where that part is being minimalized a

434
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: little bit. Why I say that is because social media.

435
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: Players can go anywhere and make a presence because of

436
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 2: social media, because of the world and time that we

437
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: live in today. So where we talk about the star

438
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: and all that comes with that, guys can go to

439
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: other places and still get a still have a cult following.

440
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: Because of social media, it ain't necessarily to the team

441
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: and and and while we are living in a team concept,

442
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: it's very individualistic. Everybody's got their own brand. Everybody has

443
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: their own brand, And because of social media, I can

444
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 2: grow my brand just as large orner off the field.

445
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: Because of streaming and social media and podcasting, in just

446
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 2: the twenty four hour visibility that is now the world

447
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: and life that we live in social media. So I

448
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: don't know they they need to understand that that we're

449
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: not living.

450
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: You said is big too, because she had the right

451
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: streaming with her mom.

452
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: You feel me, baby boo boo, Baby boo boo was

453
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: a Barbie Bunny, the girl catch me outside the girl.

454
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: All these people now have blown. Honestly, even the hot

455
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: two girls. She got an agent now and all because

456
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: of social media, and and that goes for the guys

457
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: in uniform as well. But uh, Nate, while we have you,

458
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about the offensive line. The

459
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: first couple of days of training camp, we saw that

460
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: the Cowboys they went with the Chumaga starting at left tackle,

461
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: and they had some of the Cooper bb in at center.

462
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: And now you've kind of seen the transition. And I

463
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: don't know if you're there, you're you're watching practices, but

464
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: you're starting to see the implementation of Tyler Geydon getting

465
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: more reps at.

466
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Speaker 4: The left guard. Left tackle is the man they they changed, Yeah,

467
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: they they He goes first team every time they go in.

468
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 4: Now he goes right in up with Zach Martin was

469
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: still you know, they still rotating bb In with Hoffland.

470
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Speaker 4: But bb is frans right guard to when they take

471
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 4: out Martin. So but he right now, he is the

472
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: man and his footwork is nice. Let me give a

473
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 4: quick story. Yes, uh oh, old old Parson tried to

474
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: turn the turbo on him right and try to try

475
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: to dip on him, and he rolled he rolled him around.

476
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 4: Parson's kind of looked at him on the side. I

477
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 4: was like, hold on, hold on, y'all, feller, you know

478
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 4: who I am. Then he came back again, and I

479
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: mean he zoomed up to feel a little faster and

480
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: tried to spin back inside and he and he came

481
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 4: out of that Spence home boy standing right in front

482
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: of him. Parsons kind of shook your head like, yeah,

483
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 4: we'll had he passed to so it's more to come

484
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: on that. It's more to come on that.

485
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like he's his own then it's good.

486
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he takes me wise. Now his strength

487
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 4: is going. You know, he's gonna have to deal with

488
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 4: the strength and the speed of these guys when when

489
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 4: we put the paths on. But like I said, for

490
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 4: guys that are just in not in past. Everybody's moving good,

491
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: feeling good. And side to Sam William uh that down there,

492
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 4: everything is going pretty good.

493
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's good to hear because the Cowboys, I mean,

494
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: at some point in time, right, whether the Cowboys do

495
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: a new deal or not, Dak's making fifty five million

496
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: dollars this year. Like that's all right, right, So whether

497
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: like that, So people that don't want to get that

498
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: new deal or no due deal, that is getting.

499
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: Fifty five this year.

500
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: That's that's happening. Guaranteed he's getting fifty five. I do

501
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: fifty five. God, that's already on the books for this year.

502
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: Fifty five r Right, you need a left tackle to

503
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: protect fifty five million dollars?

504
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: Right?

505
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: Like that ain't And and again we open up against

506
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: arguably the best pass rusher in the league. Who see

507
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: how you feel about it? Argue with your mother, right,

508
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett is in the conversation, he's in he's top three,

509
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's three. When it comes to

510
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: overall being one of the best defensive rush ends in

511
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: this league. You don't think that when they line up,

512
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: they gonna say, I'm gonna take the end. I'm gonna

513
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: take the defensive player of the year right, and I'm

514
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: gonna line him up over the rookie, and I'm gonna

515
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: see just how good the rookie is and how good

516
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: he is to protect the fifty five million dollar dude.

517
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: So for Tyler gu it's important that he gets these

518
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: reps right now because your quarterback isn't gonna get hit

519
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: right now. No, but you're not figuring it out come

520
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: September whatever.

521
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what. I don't know what Rapper said is,

522
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: but I hope ain't out there that boat saying it

523
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: ain't hard to find because you're gonna beout No.

524
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: Rapper said that, your boy said that. Dion said that

525
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: I ain't hard That Rapper said that. You know problem

526
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: put that wrap out there in the second that Rapper

527
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: said that. But for for gutting And this is the

528
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: one thing that I've I've gotten a chance to meet

529
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: him and talk to him and be around him a

530
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: little bit in the offseason, and and he is a

531
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: guy who from the outside looking in, now, when you

532
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: get the pads on, you got to actually go out

533
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: there and play football. That's a different thing. But he

534
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: has been a guy since the time that he got drafted,

535
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: has put his head down, got around the right people,

536
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: Duke many weather in others, and worked. He's put in

537
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: the work and you hope that that results into him

538
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: being a good football player. I don't know what. I

539
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: don't know what's gonna happen when the pads come on,

540
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: because that is a different monster and they come on tomorrow,

541
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: they come on tomorrow. Are we gonna say? What can

542
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: we expect?

543
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: I guess then with those guys up front, aren't really

544
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: is it on going at it or what happens?

545
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

546
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 6: I have that.

547
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 4: About that Wednesday. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that Wednesday, man,

548
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: because this is this is.

549
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: The fun part about the the corraling of alphas. Is

550
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: Micah who is the alpha of all alphas on the defense?

551
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: Right right?

552
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: I gotta let the young boy know I am the

553
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: alpha of the all alphas. And for Tyler Geyton, you

554
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: gotta let other folks know, Yeah you might be alpha.

555
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 4: I ain't no, b no, no, no, no, I'm just not.

556
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: But am I am? I am I lying.

557
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: You you you ain't lying that. That's the first day

558
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: you look at it. It's like, who's the best for me?

559
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: It was always who's that best three technique? You know,

560
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: as soon as I show that I can handle him,

561
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 4: everybody else fall in line.

562
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: It's like when you go to if. I've never been

563
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: to prison, but I've heard stories about folks that go

564
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: to prison. I hope that I never go to prison.

565
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: You can't get Let's and I can't get my hair retwisted.

566
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: I can't get George in prison. Those that do, God

567
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: bless you. I don't know who doesn't for the I

568
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: don't want to be I don't want to find out.

569
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: But right here, pants hanging in prison is a different thing.

570
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: And but but you go win and sometime.

571
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: They say, you know what going there and punk the tough,

572
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: the craziest dude to solidify yourself that I ain't no punk.

573
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: And that's what. That's what, That's what BB, that's what Guiden,

574
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: that's what dB Carson like all these guys, when those

575
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: paths come on, there's gonna have to be a moment

576
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: in time where you have to say, I know who

577
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: you are. I get it, your your d law, Matt respect,

578
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: your Michael Matte respect. I'm no b So even if

579
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: they even.

580
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: If they lose the one on one battle, they have

581
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: to say we're ready for the fight.

582
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: I'm ready for the fight. And guess what, let's let's

583
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: go again. Don't don't tuck the tailor go in the

584
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: back of the what you call it.

585
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: While you get two reps. That, while you get two

586
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: reps sometime three if the coach wants you to get

587
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 4: better real quick. Yeah, like they're getting yeah, back to

588
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: back reps.

589
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a moment in time for those running backs.

590
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 2: You know we goo and and and zeke and and

591
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: and and and uh and in deuce. Hey, Eric Kendricks,

592
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: when we gotta do this, we gotta.

593
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: Do this pass pro Yeah, I get it.

594
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: You the old brussel Vett. I'm no b bro. You're

595
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: not gonna no listen, Kurt, because if I allow you

596
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: to do what you want to do to me, you

597
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: won't stop doing it. Yeah, you do, and then you

598
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: all vessels.

599
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: Then all the weak pessls don't think they can handle

600
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: you like that. Yeah, you know running through the line,

601
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: they're gonna try to take that cheek shot on you. Correct,

602
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: But if you buck if you buck up Kendris in

603
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: that pass rush, you buck up, Kintris. Get I'm young buff.

604
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: When you go through the line, and you know when

605
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 4: you're just going through this short line, but you know

606
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: y'all got this robust rooky want to come by and

607
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: show they tough guy. Well, they ain't gonna do that

608
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: when you when you're getting them little extra yalls when

609
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: y'all got on, you know with coach say hey, we're

610
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 4: just studing up. They ain't gonna try to give you

611
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: an extra pop.

612
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah tomorrow, overshown. He's young. Janek has something to prove.

613
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: Didn't play last year, right, trust me, when they do

614
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: the past run, he's gonna have to thromp him up

615
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: a little bit to go. Listen, young fellow, I appreciate

616
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: your enthusiasm, but understand this this real man stuff going

617
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: on right here. So you can bring all that you

618
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: fullick energy you want to. But when I put these

619
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: palls on, you just know it's real. And that's the

620
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: iyn sharpening the iron that you want within your teammates.

621
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: All right, man, go ahead. Well it reminds me of

622
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: the story. I don't know if we've got time for it,

623
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 3: but we're working on a documentary.

624
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: But Bob Hayes, all right, let's hold that. Let's let's

625
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: hear the Bob Hay story.

626
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 4: Let's take it, Fells. I'm gonna let y'all go a

627
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 4: hand on that last segment by yourself. It's been a

628
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: pleasure talking to y'all.

629
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: All right, be safe, man, we'll talk to you on Wednesday.

630
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: Hey, don't leave yourself on the porch August. Yes, I'll

631
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: be there, all right.

632
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's go into our father Rick. All right,

633
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 2: when we come back, we'll hear the Bob. We'll see

634
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: you don't want to hear you don't talk about it. Oh,

635
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: I'll tell it. I just don't know. Yeah, we want

636
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: to hear. We want to hear Bob, and we want

637
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: to hear your work on this documentary that you're doing

638
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: as well. We want to hear the work that Kurt

639
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: is doing in his documentary. We want to hear about

640
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: the Bob Hay story. And then we'll talk about the fans.

641
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: The fans and or the lack the of fans showing

642
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: up to training camp. What does that mean for the Cowboys?

643
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: Have fans kind of checked out already? Are they a

644
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: little bit still? You know what We're done. We're done.

645
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it all right. Here, I'll hang with

646
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: the Boys. We'll be right back.

647
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: Are you the twenty twenty four Dallas Cowboys Fan of

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Speaker 2: Back to Hanging with the Boards. Welcome back to Hanging

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Speaker 2: with the Boys. Training Camp Audition, a third and final

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Speaker 2: Before we went to the break, you had you're doing, yeah,

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Speaker 2: a a documentary documentary Blues, the Deep Blue Deep Blue Documentaries. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you're already at Emmy winner. Yeah, yes, yes, Immy nominated. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we were in the same class. Yes, you dominated. You

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Speaker 2: told me that you wasn't no beat. What you said,

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Speaker 2: you said listen, yes, listen when it comes to this

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Speaker 2: writing beat and you put that no, but uh, you're

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Speaker 2: doing documentary Deep Blue, Deep Blue. And Bob Hayes, Bob

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Speaker 2: hay Great Bob Hays. Yes, Bullet Bob Hayes. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And and our talk the last segment about how

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Speaker 3: rookies coming in and you know you have to show

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Speaker 3: your you know, b whatever you out for whatever reminded

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Speaker 3: me of the.

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Speaker 2: Story before we get this, speaking of we're in the

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Speaker 2: Olympic times, Bullet Bob Hayes. Did he go to the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he won gold medal in one hundred fastest man

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Speaker 3: hast the streaming on the Earth at one time, and

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Speaker 3: he won a gold medal in the four by one,

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Speaker 3: which is some still consider the greatest anchor leg ever run.

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Speaker 2: It was incredible. So we're doing a piece on him.

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Speaker 3: We're interviewing various players, and we interviewed Cliff Harris, Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famer in his own right yp So this is

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy. Cliff Harris is a rookie coming in first

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Speaker 3: day of training camp with the veterans.

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Speaker 7: There.

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Speaker 3: Cliff's doing well. You know, he's undrafted guy. He's coming in.

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Speaker 3: He's doing well with the rookies. Now the veterans are

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Speaker 3: in town. So they're lining up to do their one

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Speaker 3: on wall pastorals or whatever. He's counting over. I got

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Speaker 3: Bob Hayes. He lines up against Bob Hayes. They come out.

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Speaker 3: Hayes does a little move, cuts to the middle. Cliff

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Speaker 3: breaks it up, breaks up the pass, and he's like, damn,

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Speaker 3: I just I just broke up. Bob Hayes doing good.

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Speaker 3: Cycle back through, getting the line. Bob Hayes comes up

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Speaker 3: at the front line.

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Speaker 2: Now Cliff Harris back at the front.

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Speaker 3: Here comes Cliff Ferris. He said, I barely saw him.

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Speaker 3: He took one step and what's gone. Welcome to the

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Speaker 3: NFL moment.

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Speaker 2: But that but that is that is it. That is absolutely,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of these guys are are going to

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Speaker 2: experience that in training camp, especially when these paths come on.

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Speaker 2: It is the alphas that like everyone's an alpha and

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Speaker 2: your own right, you're you're either an alpha coming from

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Speaker 2: the SEC or the ACC or the Big ten or

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Speaker 2: the Big twelve or the PAC twelve or PAC two

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Speaker 2: whatever it is now, or an HBCU or wherever you're

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Speaker 2: coming from. Right, you're with an alpha. You don't get

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Speaker 2: to this place in time and not be an alpha.

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Speaker 2: But then you you congregate now in general population with

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Speaker 2: nothing but alphas. Yeah, and you have to somehow, some

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Speaker 2: way established Now again you you may not be at

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Speaker 2: the top of the pecking order, but you just have

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Speaker 2: to go I'm not at the bottom. I'm just there

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Speaker 2: have to be a respect level that that is presented.

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Speaker 2: Like when you come out there, people have to know

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Speaker 2: he gonna give you good work. Right, This ain't no

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Speaker 2: move out the way, because that's the worst thing that

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Speaker 2: you want. The worst thing that you want. This and

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Speaker 2: this is this is this has happened before. Is you

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Speaker 2: come up for drill and it's the opposite of what

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Speaker 2: Bob Hayes did. It's the opposite that when you come

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Speaker 2: up in Cliff Harris coon up and Bob Hayes goes,

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Speaker 2: watch out, man, no, no, no, get up here. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, the other guy. It's the other

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Speaker 2: I don't no no, no, no no, Like I don't

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Speaker 2: even want to deal with you, not because I'm scared

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Speaker 2: of you, because you're not worth my time, right Like

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Speaker 2: you don't want that part. You don't want to but

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Speaker 2: like move you're not even need to worry about you

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Speaker 2: want you want to have that respect set to go. Well,

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Speaker 2: he may not be a starter, but I know that

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to work against this guy. And now

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Speaker 2: the guy who is the alpha. They doesn't they don't

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Speaker 2: shun you away that there's a level of respect that

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Speaker 2: they go, Yo, you gotta you gotta watch out for

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Speaker 2: this cat. This cat could play, This cat could go

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Speaker 2: he is you know, and sometimes they'll get them. Point

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Speaker 2: in times in training camp where you'll see you'll you'll

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Speaker 2: see when City Land comes back to camp, you'll see

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Speaker 2: Trayvon no no, no, no no, watch out to whoever

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Speaker 2: is in front and saying I got eighty eight all right,

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Speaker 2: And you'll see you'll see CD do the same right,

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Speaker 2: it'll get to a competitive point where cet he will

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Speaker 2: come up and he'll go, Carson, you're cool. Dran, you're cool.

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Speaker 2: I want seven come on, come on, or running back

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Speaker 2: drills or whatever it is. You'll you'll see that. You'll

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Speaker 2: see those guys come up and you'll go, m you're cool.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm gonna rush, I want to rush over.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me deal with Zach Martin right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna rush in the middle. Let me deal with

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Speaker 2: and that type of stuff. But that that right there

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Speaker 2: is what you want, and that that breeds the competitiveness

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Speaker 2: in camp. It's iron sharpens orange. Yay. Oh yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: when the guys get to talk in and you get

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Speaker 2: the you know when you come back later on you

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Speaker 2: watching on a film and you like a alright, you know,

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Speaker 2: you go to your offensive meetings, you know, offensive defensive,

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Speaker 2: you break up, and then when y'all come back together,

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Speaker 2: you'd be like, y'all know you saw y'all watch film?

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Speaker 2: Did y'all watch past bro?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You saw it? You saw it. And then the guys like, allright,

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Speaker 2: watch tomorrow, tomorrow, next time we passed whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: And then now those things like Nate said, guiding went

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Speaker 2: up with Michael Parsons, and Michael tried to give him

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Speaker 2: a little something and boom, mikeel didn't forget that that's

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Speaker 2: tucked away. Micah goes, Okay, tomorrow the paths come on,

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Speaker 2: and now I'm gonna see how just because you might

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Speaker 2: have just stown me a little bit and I ain't

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Speaker 2: really going full speed. I ain't got nothing, no surface,

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Speaker 2: I can't really you don't have a helmet on, none

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Speaker 2: of that kind of stuff. Okay, all right, we'll see,

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Speaker 2: let's find out. We'll find out just how what's up?

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Speaker 2: What's up? First round pick? And that's how that thing

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00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: goes a lot a lot of times. But out that

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Speaker 2: training camp and in this off season has been to say,

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Speaker 2: all in, I guess that that that's a trigger. That's

807
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Speaker 2: a trigger. Yeah, And it hasn't been an offseason that

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Speaker 2: people will say has gotten me ready for the season.

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Speaker 2: And the Cowboys. I've been to ox Snart, you've been

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Speaker 2: the ox Nart and the West Coast is good to

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. Has always been good to the Dallas Cowboys.

812
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Speaker 2: But reports have come out that this training camp maybe

813
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Speaker 2: not have been the best. The best when it comes

814
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Speaker 2: to fan wise, is this has it come to a

815
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Speaker 2: tipping point? Would you say, Kurt did, this has come

816
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Speaker 2: to a point where it's just like, hey, where where

817
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Speaker 2: where We're not going to quite put all our time,

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Speaker 2: energy and effort and financial resources into supporting this football

819
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Speaker 2: team because they don't put all their finances and time,

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Speaker 2: energy and effort to giving us a team that's worth cheeringful.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting, I just do there is this feeling that

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Speaker 3: fans are just like talk to me in January, you know,

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Speaker 3: in some ways it's just there's I don't think apathy

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Speaker 3: is the right word, but there doesn't seem to be

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Speaker 3: that same excitement. Obviously, they're a large hardcore fans generally are,

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Speaker 3: but they are still let's go. But I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it just seems like maybe it's the more casual fans

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Speaker 3: are aren't as ready as they have been in the past.

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Speaker 2: But Fridays and Saturdays usually at Oxygen are usually like

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Speaker 2: standing room only, no room for anything. And the reports

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Speaker 2: are coming out of there like, yeah, a good crowd,

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Speaker 2: but yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think Zeke was the one saying, yeah, it's it's

834
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Speaker 3: not near what it has been. And I think they

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Speaker 3: said yesterday it was like seventy five empty or something

836
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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's.

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Speaker 3: That don't get their attention. If nothing else, fans don't

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Speaker 3: start showing up.

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Speaker 2: Listen, the one thing that gets the Joneses attention is

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Speaker 2: when no dollars and that fandom is in matching their expectations.

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Speaker 2: That gets their attention right there, Because at the end

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00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: of the day, they are businessmen. I keep telling you

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Speaker 2: guys this, They are business men women in the Jones family,

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Speaker 2: and their bottom line concern is, yeah, the Donald dollar bill.

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Speaker 3: And I think, you know, as we get closer and

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00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 3: we actually see him playing, I think it will kick

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Speaker 3: back in.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know.

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00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: I don't know right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, as long as the fans keep showing up

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Speaker 2: for this show, the best show, throwing the dot com

853
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Speaker 2: hanging with the boys, and that'll do it for us today.

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Speaker 2: For Shannon, for Nate on the side of the road,

855
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: for Kurt, Yes, Sir, for Salt and Pepper Poppy for jazz,

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Speaker 2: keeping us up in the back. For Josh, I know

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Speaker 2: he's not here, he's a Knox, but he can't. But

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Speaker 2: he's still working, he's still doing all this stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: and most importantly for you. Thank you guys for joining

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Speaker 2: us each and every week. We'll be back here Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: We'll report back what happened on Tuesday at training camp

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Speaker 2: I am salting Pepper Poppy. Thank you guys for being here.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a great Monday. Let's do it. We a.

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