WEBVTT - Remember Our Officer's Commitment 

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<v Speaker 1>All right, one hundred and forty one day, Scott Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you eight hundred and nine four one. Sean, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of the program. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I said this the other night, ending the program on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night to Laura Ingram, I said, yeah, my heart's

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<v Speaker 1>troubled again. I've been saying that a lot instead of

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<v Speaker 1>what you know would usually be said, let not your

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<v Speaker 1>heart be troubled and believe in me. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>believe all of that with all my heart. And I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you it's troubled. I just know. I am like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what is happening to this country? If you love America

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<v Speaker 1>and you're watching all this and you think of all

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been through. It's only June fifteenth, but we

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<v Speaker 1>have one hundred and forty one days we have I

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<v Speaker 1>think the single biggest, most important pivotal you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>future of America on the line election. And look at

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<v Speaker 1>what we've been through just from January straight on through

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<v Speaker 1>and it just gets worse every single solitary day, the

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<v Speaker 1>worst pandemic and over one hundred years. You see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you learn from things. You see some good things, you

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<v Speaker 1>see some horrible things. We learned what we did right,

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<v Speaker 1>you learn what we did wrong. You're seeing resurgences now

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<v Speaker 1>that we've got to pay very close attention to. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always said, it's not if, it's when, and it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen, and how we deal with that part of

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<v Speaker 1>it is crucial, and I think we've learned a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of lessons to do a lot better with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>the country now struggling to reopen people craving it. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, leading into what happened with George Floyd,

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<v Speaker 1>which never ever should have happened, which shocked the conscience

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<v Speaker 1>of a nation. Then of course leading to rioting, looting, arson,

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<v Speaker 1>a number of dead police officers, to cop in Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, it looks like he's paralyzed for life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so many others of Americans killed in the process,

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<v Speaker 1>many hundreds others injured, eight hundred cops injured, rocks and

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<v Speaker 1>bottles and molotov cocktails and bricks thrown at the cops.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have precincts being burnt to the ground, looting, arson, rioting,

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, people make a good point that there are

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful protesters, and amongst them you have the agitators and

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of them though too, and that's sad.

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<v Speaker 1>And those that want to march for the right reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not bundling them in with the anarchists. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you go to Minneapolis defund the police and the city

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<v Speaker 1>council that has a veto proof majority to now get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the police department, and they're serious, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we go to Seattle and the Autonomous Zone or

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<v Speaker 1>the Free Love Zone or the Summer of Love, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have street parties and we're gonna have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like when big block party going on all throughout it.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought that we would have entire city blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>including a police precinct, taken over by anarchists and the

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<v Speaker 1>mayors seemingly siding with it all out in Seattle, and

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<v Speaker 1>the governor told really impotent and incompetent to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>any of it. And then you look at all of

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<v Speaker 1>the officers offers of help of the president, let me

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<v Speaker 1>help you, let me help. You have to ask for

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<v Speaker 1>the help, but I want to help you. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to help you. And the same in New York and

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<v Speaker 1>the same in Illinois, and you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things then start bubbling to the surface, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we start wanting to look deeper and deeper and deeper

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<v Speaker 1>in to the causal effects and socioeconomics and and and those.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that there are some bad cops, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the majority of them. It's not it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight eight percent of them, I argue, are good people.

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<v Speaker 1>Every I know a lot of cops. Everybody that's a cop,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody know that it's a teacher, Everybody I know that's

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<v Speaker 1>a fireman, everyone that I know is a paramedic. Most

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<v Speaker 1>people are going into medicine. They go in because it's

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<v Speaker 1>their calling, it is their passion for life, and they

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<v Speaker 1>do it knowing there's a pretty you know, look, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a limit. They're not going to get rich doing

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<v Speaker 1>any of those jobs. But it is a calling to

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<v Speaker 1>protect and to serve, and they know that they're putting

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<v Speaker 1>their lives at risk every time that they put on

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<v Speaker 1>that uniform, and they do it anyway, And because that's

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<v Speaker 1>our line of defense against the fact that there is

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<v Speaker 1>evil and there are bad people. You know, the human

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<v Speaker 1>condition is what the human condition is. We've all sinned

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<v Speaker 1>and we've all fallen short all I'll start with me there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just saying that, you know, we are better

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<v Speaker 1>than this, We can be better than this, We can

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<v Speaker 1>become a more perfect union. It's not as I don't

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<v Speaker 1>say this lightly. When I quote recently deceased Barry Farber

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<v Speaker 1>when he said there's never been a history a country

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of mankind that has accumulated more power

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<v Speaker 1>and abused it less. Didn't say we were a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>country when not. And what we want to become, the

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<v Speaker 1>beauty of our framers and our founders, is a more

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<v Speaker 1>perfect union. We make strides to become a more perfect union.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always add that there's never been a country

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of mankind that is a human related

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<v Speaker 1>more power and used it to advance the human condition

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<v Speaker 1>than this one. And it's all because of liberty. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all because of freedom. It's all because we believe that

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<v Speaker 1>every human being is born with talent from God. Not again,

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<v Speaker 1>we're endowed by our creator with rights, not with government

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<v Speaker 1>giving us rights. That our creator gave us these rights.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you look at you know, well, okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>can factor in decades and decades of Democratic Party governance

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<v Speaker 1>and blue states all across the country, and you see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, systemic failure everywhere. I mean again, I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't look today, But if I went and I

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<v Speaker 1>googled how many were shot in Chicago, I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be shocked. And nobody does a thing, lifts a finger.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a duty to protect our American family. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. You know, you have school systems in

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<v Speaker 1>big cities. We spend more per capita than any other

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<v Speaker 1>industrialized country on the face of the earth, with the

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<v Speaker 1>worst results. Third highest spending city for per capita per

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<v Speaker 1>student per year is Baltimore. But they have thirteen public schools.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not one American child is proficient in math?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you fail? And then, but even worse, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you not step in and try to fix it? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you have this on holy alliance with teachers unions

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<v Speaker 1>in the Democratic Party. Now we get to the inn

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, we all watched, and I watched, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>studied this video again and again and again. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with the facts. Let's start with So the

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<v Speaker 1>police get a call from a Wendy's in Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Schard Brooks is asleep in his car in the

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<v Speaker 1>drive through lane. Police are called, they show up. Police

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<v Speaker 1>officer knocks on the window, no response. Knocks on the window,

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<v Speaker 1>no response opens the door. Takes a while we finally

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<v Speaker 1>get her response. You can see Ray Shard at that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>just waking up. Obviously is confused. And and here's that encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>So the reason why we're here is because somebody called

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<v Speaker 1>nine one one because you were asleep behind the wheel

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<v Speaker 1>while you're in the drive through. Right do you call that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't. You don't recall that. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>recall just minutes ago where you're passed out behind the

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<v Speaker 1>wheel in the drive through. You don't recall that at all,

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<v Speaker 1>Just complete blur. I wasn't drying, like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>just name my girlfriend. She probably with sleeping. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I faid bay, I want freaked fry. So

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<v Speaker 1>far as I'm aware, you're the only person that's been

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<v Speaker 1>seen in this vehicle. Run. Yeah, you've been in the

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<v Speaker 1>driver's seat the whole time. So how did the car

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<v Speaker 1>get into the drive through with you behind the wheel? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>She drove here? I said, babe, I'm drinking in a

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<v Speaker 1>black car in the black bottle bay and you got

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<v Speaker 1>into your car. I say, Hey, you know what, no problem,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just meet you in the hotel, all right. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the initial encounter. Now the first thing I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to observe, and all of this up until the

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<v Speaker 1>moment when the officers they offered a breath test. He

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to the breath test. You know what I noticed

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<v Speaker 1>on both sides is courtesy and respect. Courtesy and respect

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<v Speaker 1>by the police officers raychard Brooks. Courtesy and respect from him.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is when he was patted down by the police.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have anything on him, is okay? If I

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<v Speaker 1>patch down to make sure if he I have this

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<v Speaker 1>money gas? Is it okay? If I patch you down

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure any weapon absolutely away for any quick?

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<v Speaker 1>What is this? There's just a bunch of money in

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<v Speaker 1>your mindy, What's what's all this money? How much money

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<v Speaker 1>do you have in your party? I mean, baby, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a bunch of ones and stuff here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely welcome your question. I remember you can see the side, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I just came to get something big and you might

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<v Speaker 1>just put your phone on the trunk of your car,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. And then there was a moment too, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so the officer says, can you please park the car

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<v Speaker 1>over here, and you know, I guess he had an

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<v Speaker 1>out of state license. Uh okay, what are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>My mom had passed away about a year and a

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<v Speaker 1>half ago. He goes, oh, I'm so sorry to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean friendly. It was professional. Uh Ray Schard Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>was courteous, even calling the cops by their last names.

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<v Speaker 1>It was mutual. WO seemed like routine, very neutral. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he the police officer that the second officer on the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>asks if he could take a breathalyzer test, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>completely up to you. Listen, will you take it for later?

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<v Speaker 1>Best test for me? She has her no. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to refuse any babe, And she has her no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely got to us. Stop where okay, just wait

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<v Speaker 1>here while I go. Oh, man, so trying to make sure, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're standing to drive, That's all I know. Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>just you scared me a little bit because you were

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping in the suns. You know why I was making

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're okay. You know, no nuts. I know. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you did see your row take a deep breath,

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<v Speaker 1>then get your mouth through the mouth piece. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>hards you can't tell take you to stop blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Stop very good,

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<v Speaker 1>I said a few jurgis. I said how many? One

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<v Speaker 1>and half? Like I said, I was it to the

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<v Speaker 1>second cup. I wouldn't even I told her baby, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go because I'm hungry. I what kind of drinks did

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<v Speaker 1>you have? I'm not sure it's something sheet harder, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>top show for whatever, top shop What I'm not shooting now?

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<v Speaker 1>We had registered uh point one? Eight point oh eight

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<v Speaker 1>is the legal limit? He gave it a number of

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<v Speaker 1>different answers as it relates to. At first it was

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<v Speaker 1>top shelve. What is top shelve mean? Then he said

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<v Speaker 1>out to Margaret Ellie had one drink. Then it was

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<v Speaker 1>a drink and a half, and it was Margarita's. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't know what I had to drink, So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, things were off. Officers said he smelled alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>in the car obviously between maybe drinking, getting up, waking up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he became more lucid as the engagement went on,

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<v Speaker 1>but again professional until we get to this moment. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you have young kids in the car,

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<v Speaker 1>you may don't want to listen, give you a warning.

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<v Speaker 1>This is when this is when everything up until that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, from what I seen, and I've watched it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, was the police professional doing their jobs, being

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<v Speaker 1>respectful and Raychard Brooks being respectful. Okay, as he said,

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<v Speaker 1>we just want to make sure you're safe to drive.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't want anybody get hurt. The police

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any choice here. He's over the limit. That

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<v Speaker 1>means you don't just get to take the keys and

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<v Speaker 1>throw him and the bushes and ignore it. Here is

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<v Speaker 1>when he struggles with the police. All right, I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you had too much to drink to be driving,

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<v Speaker 1>chanting back to can't put chance money back? Hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>stop stop fighting, stop fighting, Stop fighting. You get you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get time with the right, with the right jaser.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop fighting. M my sticky drink from there again, up

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<v Speaker 1>to that moment, it was fine. It was the moment

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<v Speaker 1>of that they tried to put cuffs on. Then everything changed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think probably even to these of the cops,

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<v Speaker 1>ray Schard Brooks initiates a battle with them. You can

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<v Speaker 1>hear the cops they stop fighting, pop saying you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get taste you gotta get a taste, then hands off

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<v Speaker 1>the taser. That's what it sounded like to me. Stop fighting,

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<v Speaker 1>stop fighting, ends up fighting the two cops. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>two instances where he seemed to hit the cops one

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<v Speaker 1>each grabs the taser and starts running. We'll pick it

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<v Speaker 1>up from the other side. Where that goes from there.

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<v Speaker 1>Just it did not have to happen this way. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so sad. A dui is not the worst thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Let's be honest. It's it's not good. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>have people drunk because then innocent people can get killed.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, glad you whether it's twenty to the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the hour, eight hundred and ninety four one sean,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be a part of the program today.

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<v Speaker 1>So it leads us to four specific parts with the

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<v Speaker 1>police in Atlanta and Ray Schard Brooks. The initial encounter

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<v Speaker 1>being padded down, taking the breathalyzer test, the conversations that

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<v Speaker 1>go back and forth about well, I'm here, my mom

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<v Speaker 1>passed away, going to a grave site, etc. Etc. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry to hear that. M Listen, you know, we just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta make sure you're okay to drive. We're worried about

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's safety, and I know why. You know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to do your job. I totally understand and polite professional

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<v Speaker 1>on both ends. And then we get into the situation

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<v Speaker 1>where we get to this moment and I digress for

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<v Speaker 1>a second here because you know, Cops, the TV show,

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<v Speaker 1>after thirty two years, has been canceled, and Live PD,

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<v Speaker 1>very highly rated show on cable, has also been canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, at the moment when the two police officers

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta begin to put the handcuffs on Ray Schard Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, up to that moment, everything is fine and

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<v Speaker 1>then all hell breaks loose. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that as I watched this video over and over again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to myself, as I'm watching this, up to

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<v Speaker 1>that second, it's okay, and it's gonna be take, probably

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<v Speaker 1>taken into custody. I don't know. I've never gotten a duy,

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<v Speaker 1>but I assume that it's pretty much a bench warrant.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you know, somebody comes picks you up, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a ticket, you get a date to show up, you

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<v Speaker 1>go home, and not a great thing. Nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go through that, I'm sure, but it's a job that

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<v Speaker 1>has to be done. We know the devastation of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>mothers against drunk driving. We've learned, and the age day

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<v Speaker 1>and age of uber, and you know, it's just too

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<v Speaker 1>easy now not to have these accidents. You pay the

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<v Speaker 1>money for the uber, You go out, you get your sandwich,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to get. You had a couple of drinks, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody care. So I don't care how much you drink.

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<v Speaker 1>That's up to you. But courteous, professional on all sides.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it becomes okay, stop fighting, stop fighting. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get tased. You're gonna get tased. Hands off my taser.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop fighting, stop fighting. And then the ensuing hits. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see that there were big, big hits, but both

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<v Speaker 1>officers getting hit out wrestled. There was a moment. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go back to my martial arts point

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone gets annoyed with that. So but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>moment that that I thought police had an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>gain control and didn't. As I watch it over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again and slowly, and it's easy to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after the conflict happens, he grabs the taser, he starts

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<v Speaker 1>running down the parking lot in pursuit of the two officers.

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<v Speaker 1>The DUI officer has his taser out. Then Ray Shard

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<v Speaker 1>Brooks turns around, fires the taser that he took off

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<v Speaker 1>one of the cops and then his shot twice. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's no longer with us today. And that's the sad

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<v Speaker 1>part to me, because none of this should have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a human life. Now we get into the

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<v Speaker 1>question of all right, well, you know who is at

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<v Speaker 1>fault here because the Atlanta Police now have they have

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<v Speaker 1>gone forward. They announced that officer Garrett rolf he's the

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<v Speaker 1>one that fired the shots. Veteran department. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>DUI officer hired in October twenty thirteen. He has been fired.

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<v Speaker 1>The other cop who was the initial cop on the

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<v Speaker 1>scene seemed to have a good rapport with Ray Schard Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been placed on administrative duty. He was called to

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<v Speaker 1>the Wendy's failed to field sobriety test, resisted arrest, and

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<v Speaker 1>during the struggle, grabbed the taser and ran. I can

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<v Speaker 1>get into the technicalities of the law because we've been

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<v Speaker 1>researching it all and I know that everybody thinks this

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<v Speaker 1>might be all there's a slam dunk case etc. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you look at the law, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it's going to depend on, for example, what

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<v Speaker 1>how they categorize or characterize legally what a taser is,

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<v Speaker 1>and whether or not, you know, what was the police

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<v Speaker 1>offer thinking if the guy turns around, which he did

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<v Speaker 1>in Rayschard Brooks and shoots the taser back of the cops.

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<v Speaker 1>But as for the written law, it says he or

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<v Speaker 1>she reasonably believes an employee, meaning a cop, can use

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<v Speaker 1>deadly forced to apprehend a suspected felon only when and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you take the taser at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>now you are a suspected felon. One he or she

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<v Speaker 1>reasonably believes that the suspect possesses a deadly weapon or

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<v Speaker 1>an object, device, or instrument which used offensively against a

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<v Speaker 1>person is likely or actually does result it's seriously serious

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<v Speaker 1>bodily injury. When he or she reasonably believes that the

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<v Speaker 1>suspect poses an immediate threat of serious bodily injury to

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<v Speaker 1>the officer or two others or two when there is

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<v Speaker 1>probable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a

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<v Speaker 1>crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm,

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<v Speaker 1>and the employee reasonably believes that the suspect's escape would

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<v Speaker 1>create a continuing danger of serious physical harm to any person.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the law says. You know, I walk away

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<v Speaker 1>with this, and you know it was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people when I came out immediately after seeing the seven minute,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five second video of George Floyd. I'm just I wrote.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kept saying that you have no idea. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the death sentence is this never should have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't keep your knee on somebody's neck with their

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<v Speaker 1>head into the pavement like that and expect any other

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<v Speaker 1>result than what happened to George Floyd. Most of my

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<v Speaker 1>life on radio and TV, I often tell the story about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how did I learn not to rush the judgment? How

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<v Speaker 1>do I learn? How do I always end up being

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<v Speaker 1>right when so many others do rush to judgment? And

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<v Speaker 1>that's because we don't rush to judgment. And I learned

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<v Speaker 1>that in the Richard Jewel case. And I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the air in Atlanta as a local host and the

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<v Speaker 1>AJC comes out with, well, he fits the profile of

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<v Speaker 1>the lone bomber because he lives with his mother and

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<v Speaker 1>he was a security guard. Originally he was hailed as

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<v Speaker 1>a hero because he cleared out the area when he

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<v Speaker 1>saw a suspected package or backpackages laying there. It turns

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<v Speaker 1>out he was right, and by pushing people away he

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<v Speaker 1>probably saved a lot of lives that day. And I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just because the guy lives with his mother, doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>he fits the profile of a domestic terrorist. What are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about. In the end, he did not. He

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<v Speaker 1>did not do this, Lynn Wood, his attorney was also

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<v Speaker 1>representing Nicholas Salman, swears to this day that Richard Jewel

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<v Speaker 1>died at forty four because of the devastation and the

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<v Speaker 1>stress and the pressure was overweight and all that those

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<v Speaker 1>other factors existed, but that was a certainly a contributing

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<v Speaker 1>cause in his death. And he has explained that on

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<v Speaker 1>this program numerous times. And then yet then I say, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how does everyone get hands up, don't shoot? How did

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<v Speaker 1>I get that right and everybody else got that wrong

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<v Speaker 1>in the media. Well, one of the reasons is is

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<v Speaker 1>I do my due diligence. And I talked to police

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground that were there that already knew that

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<v Speaker 1>there were numerous people that would testify that just happened

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<v Speaker 1>to be because again identity politics came into play in

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<v Speaker 1>that case. That said it was exactly how Officer Darren

0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Wilson described it, African American witnesses saying, yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 1>being charged that by Michael Brown told him to stop, stop, stop,

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't stop. The initial shot was fired in the

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<v Speaker 1>car when Michael Brown reached into the car. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence showed. That's what the testimony ended up showing.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew in the Zimmerman Treyvon case, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>say I wish George Zimmerman would have just called the police,

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<v Speaker 1>but that there was an eyewitness that was going to

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<v Speaker 1>identify Treyvon on top of George Zimma at the moment

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<v Speaker 1>when this became deadly, you know, saying he was pounding

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<v Speaker 1>his head into the ground. That testimony would impact the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that from the very beginning. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>at for example, Freddie Gray, there was just a consensus

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<v Speaker 1>that this was a slam dunk case and the six

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<v Speaker 1>officers there were going to end up, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>being convicted. And I was like, none of them are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be convicted, because again, what my sources were

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<v Speaker 1>telling me at the time that knew a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of friends in law enforcement. We

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<v Speaker 1>worked sources in the Duke lacrosse case. I took the

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<v Speaker 1>time and I went out to Garden City, Long Island,

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<v Speaker 1>and I met with some of the kids and some

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<v Speaker 1>of the family members, and a very different tale was

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to emerge. And I very early on understood that

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<v Speaker 1>in spite of, you know, just condemnation by the Duke

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<v Speaker 1>school community, even close to one hundred professors taken out

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<v Speaker 1>an article signing a petition in the newspaper based Lee

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<v Speaker 1>convicting these kids there because quote, they're a bunch of privileged,

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, athletes that you know, think their blank doesn't stink. Well,

0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 1>they all ended up proving their innocence. You know, Timestamp,

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<v Speaker 1>video stamp at an ATM machine wasn't there at the

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<v Speaker 1>time of the allegation, Timestamp going into a dorm not

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<v Speaker 1>there at the time of the allegation. And in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids had to one by one prove their innocence

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<v Speaker 1>in that case, and then a lot of other things

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<v Speaker 1>came out in that allegation. We did the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>with UVA. We did the same thing with Cambridge Police.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, this is a part of what I've

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<v Speaker 1>realized and part of my work is to is to

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<v Speaker 1>dig deeper than the average person digs. Here. Now, how

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<v Speaker 1>they define and and we'll have lawyers on this program

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<v Speaker 1>examining this in the days to come. How they ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>define a taser in that moment is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>probably where Lee lead this case ends, assuming that Officer

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett Rolfe is in fact indited. Remember you're gonna die

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<v Speaker 1>a ham sandwich. But again, the one thing I would

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<v Speaker 1>caution here is again if you go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>moment where just up until the point he's getting asked

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<v Speaker 1>to be handcuffed because he's over the limit. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>let somebody drive a car drunk. You can't. At that

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<v Speaker 1>point they tried to put the handcuffs and then the

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<v Speaker 1>conflict was initiated. There's no ambiguity. This is why I

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<v Speaker 1>like body cams. I like vehicle cams, patroller cams, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Squad car cams, whatever you want to call him, because

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<v Speaker 1>it helps us put a more accurate picture together. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we have, I guess the video from Wendy's and that

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<v Speaker 1>came into place. We haven't even gotten to the idea. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now the Wendy's has burned to the ground. Apparently they've

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<v Speaker 1>identified who the person is that started that fire in

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that particular case, and on the heels obviously of George Floyd.

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<v Speaker 1>The timing couldn't be worse because it's such a highly

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<v Speaker 1>charged atmosphere in the country right now in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways, and the ensuing violence and now anarchy

0:25:15.080 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 1>in some places that has taken over, and so a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it's going to if you want the law

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<v Speaker 1>on this, a lot of it is going to come

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<v Speaker 1>down to say that. My first thought is is it's

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<v Speaker 1>so sad and tragic. I don't know. You know. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't drive drunk on the age of uber in

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<v Speaker 1>my view, you have a drink too. I think two

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<v Speaker 1>drinks is usually the limit from my but don't take

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<v Speaker 1>my word for it. You know, you know, buy one

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<v Speaker 1>of those those breathalyzers yourself. You can buy them. And

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<v Speaker 1>you can't resist, and you can't fight, and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>steal a weapon. Then you can't turn around and fire

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<v Speaker 1>a weapon, even if it's a taser. So I walk

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<v Speaker 1>away with a number of things without rushing to judgment

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<v Speaker 1>because I think everybody deserves the presumption of innocence and

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<v Speaker 1>the tech. What the written law here is will play

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<v Speaker 1>a big factor in what we're viewing, and so many

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<v Speaker 1>other people want to rush to judgment on them, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of what it's going to be defined. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the first question I have is, Okay, if you shoot

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<v Speaker 1>the taser once, is that does it have one shot

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<v Speaker 1>or two? Because I think there are two versions of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know in this particular case, I've not been

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<v Speaker 1>able to get a definitive answer. I've gotten mixed answers

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<v Speaker 1>on that. A couple of things that come to mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know the President I think this week, according

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<v Speaker 1>to reports all over, that he's going to come out

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<v Speaker 1>with certain reforms. I think one of them has to

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<v Speaker 1>be only if it's imminent danger on a chokehold, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the most sensitive part of the human anatomy. I

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<v Speaker 1>can agree with that. But if a CoP's life is

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<v Speaker 1>in danger, all bets have to be off. If he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks there's a physical confrontation and that's the only way

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<v Speaker 1>that he can he can stop somebody from maybe killing

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<v Speaker 1>him or her, that has to be an understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>the difficulty of that job. I think again we get

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<v Speaker 1>back to we need more training for these officers, and

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<v Speaker 1>I go back to a third point that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>making other non lethal options available to the police. I

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<v Speaker 1>am not a big fan of that taser. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be a close range. You got it,

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<v Speaker 1>You got the stupid wires that come flying out behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you're you're going for either the taser, the

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<v Speaker 1>taser gets taken, now you only have one option, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you shoot the taser and you miss, you only

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<v Speaker 1>have one option. And I discussed in detail, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the some of the great new technology that's

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<v Speaker 1>coming on market that I think will be ultimately an

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<v Speaker 1>assist for police officers non lethal options that they will

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<v Speaker 1>have now in terms of the neck, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>all agree. In terms of training, I think we all agree,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, add to the tools that the police have

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<v Speaker 1>for non lethal force, I think that's critical. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the public has a role to play here, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is that the public has got to understand and there's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be more communication, better communication with every community.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's it's upsetting that it seems like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>wants to just say, ninety nine percent of cops are horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just not true. And I'll tell you other

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<v Speaker 1>things that are going to happen. I heard Congressman Clyburn

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<v Speaker 1>saying I fear the police now more than during segregation.

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<v Speaker 1>M seventy nine percent of truckers say that they're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to deliver the cities the defund police department. Minneapolis

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>cops are resigning now in droves, you know, with this

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<v Speaker 1>defunding effort. Now, the defunding effort is going nationwide. Seattle

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Mayer is just allowing the anarchists to take over with

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<v Speaker 1>our summer of love and anarchy and you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>autonomous zones and whatever you want to call it. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, and the zone is a safe space for

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>spaghetti potlucks. A movie predicting a summer of love. I'm like, wow,

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>this woman is clueless out there. I don't know what

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>she's thinking. He had an entire Florida city swat team

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<v Speaker 1>in Hollandale Beach. They resigned because the police chief there

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<v Speaker 1>kneeled with the protesters. Has been almost universal condemnation of

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<v Speaker 1>all cops. Well, you found the police, who are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to call? I always go back to that one

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<v Speaker 1>question and if we surrender to the anarchists, what everyone knows,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no private property, everything's free, and they get to

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<v Speaker 1>build a wall and keep police out and take over

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<v Speaker 1>their precinct. That's not going to end well in my view.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, did Minneapolis police what's happening in Seattle?

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<v Speaker 1>The President's asking to help, they refuse any help whatsoever

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<v Speaker 1>to restore law and order. If we don't have law

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<v Speaker 1>and order, then what happens from there? Nothing good is

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<v Speaker 1>going to come out of that. And you know it

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm glad they had the body cam, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how is it that we're just willing to throw an

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<v Speaker 1>entire group of people that risk their lives for not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money down the stairs and we have

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely no room whatsoever for Let's wait for all the

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<v Speaker 1>facts to come in. Let's look at the law. It's

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a very scary time for this country, and

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<v Speaker 1>I really worry about where this is all headed. For

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>everybody's sake, we're one country, we're one people. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>to get along. We'll continue, all right, Welcome back our

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>tow Sean Hannity's show, Glad you with us eight hundred

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and ninety four one Sean, if you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the program, all right, let me play

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<v Speaker 1>for all of you. Is this is what happened in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta over the weekend. Ray Schard Brooks's initial counter with

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<v Speaker 1>the police, him being padded down by the police, him

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<v Speaker 1>taking a breathalyzer. Up to the moment, I hear nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but respect on both sides, up until the moment they

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<v Speaker 1>began to cuff him, having obviously been above the driving

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<v Speaker 1>limit for alcohol. And when things went bad, but got

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<v Speaker 1>to give you a listener warning. It's it's hard to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>So the reason why we're here is because somebody called

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<v Speaker 1>nine one one because you were asleep behind the wheel

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<v Speaker 1>while you're in the driving through. Right do you call that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't. You don't recall that. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>recall just minutes ago where you were passed out behind

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the wheel in the drive through. You don't recall that

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Absolutely just complete blur. I wasn't driving, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I just dame my girlfriend. She probably with sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, I said, baby, I want freaked fry.

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<v Speaker 1>So bars, I'm aware you're the only person that's been

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<v Speaker 1>seen in this vehicle. Run Yeah, you've been in the

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>driver's seat the whole time. So how did the car

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>get into the drive through with you behind the wheel?

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<v Speaker 1>She drove here, I said, babe, I'm drinking in a

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>black car in the black bottle ball and you got

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<v Speaker 1>into your car. I said, hey, you know what, no problem,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just meet you in the hotel. I don't have anything,

0:31:58.560 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>or is okay if I bat you down? Just makes

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<v Speaker 1>if you I have just money gas? Is it okay

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<v Speaker 1>if I pat you down to make you do any weapon?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely face away for a real quick. What is this?

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<v Speaker 1>There's just a bunch of money in your body? That's

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<v Speaker 1>some more WI What's what's all this money? How much

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 1>money do you have in your party? I mean, baby's

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>n okay, like a bunch of ones and stuff? Here

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 1>for absolutely welcome here. I do remember you can see

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<v Speaker 1>the side right, howl. I just came to get something big.

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>You might just put your phone on the trunk of

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>your cart. You have any your hand, will you take

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>it for la best test for me? Yes or no?

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to refuse any pay it's yes or no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely got to you. Yes, well okay, just wait

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<v Speaker 1>here while I go out oh man, So make sure, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you're staying to drive. That's all I know, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>just you you scared me a little bit because you

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<v Speaker 1>were sleeping in there, So that's you know why I

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<v Speaker 1>was making sure you're okay, you know, And that's I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you did. Still your draw just take a

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<v Speaker 1>deeper at then you're out throw them out piece. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard. You can't tell tell you stop. Blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Stop. Very good,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, a few jerks, I said, how many? One

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and half? Like I said, I was into the second cup.

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even I told her, baby, let's go because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hungry. I what kind of drinks did you have?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure it's something cheet harder, she said, Top

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<v Speaker 1>show for whatever, top shop what I'm not shooting, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't. I think you've had too much to

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<v Speaker 1>drink to be driving Put Chance waking back to win

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>put chance money. But he stop, fun funny stop funny

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 1>stop fun you get you're gonna get time with the

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>right with my sticky drink. The thing that just stands

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>out in this this entire exchange, and I watched it

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<v Speaker 1>so many times, like so many of you have. Here

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<v Speaker 1>is from the first moment of the encounter, um all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up to the moment the two officers tried

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<v Speaker 1>to put handcuffs on Ray Shard Brooks. It was professional,

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it was there was respect on all sides, everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you think you'd want to hear in terms of an

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<v Speaker 1>exchange with a police officer and a citizen, and then

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>all hell break slows, which you just heard. Also here

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<v Speaker 1>to help sort through all of this, we have former

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<v Speaker 1>Commissioner of the New York Police Department, Bernie Carrick, author

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<v Speaker 1>of The Grave Above the Grave. Remember he was the

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<v Speaker 1>NYPD Commissioner during nine to eleven September eleven, two thousand

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and one, and former Lieutenant commander of the NYPD counter

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<v Speaker 1>Terrorism Unit. Sergeant Dmitrick Penny is with US, twenty year

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Vet Dallas Police and president of the Dallas, Texas National

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<v Speaker 1>Falling Officer Foundation, U as a congressional candidate now in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas District thirty. Thank you both for being with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me start with you, Sergeant Is I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>up to that moment, did you see anything wrong on

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<v Speaker 1>either side? Be it Ray shot Brooks or the police

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>up to the moment when they began to cuff him

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<v Speaker 1>no vision. First of all, I think it's so much

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:07.839
<v Speaker 1>to have me on Hannity, But yeah, I saw this thing.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I watched this video over and over again to try

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to figure out, you know, what went wrong, And the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line is, these officers did everything right when you

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>got to that to that confrontation where the individuals start

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 1>fighting with the officer, and when he took took that

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>officers taser, the circumstances changed. This is not we were

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<v Speaker 1>just talking a couple of days ago about George Floyd.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not that, and the community need to completely

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:37.760
<v Speaker 1>understand this is not that. This that individual he created

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<v Speaker 1>the deadly force and corner when that tayser was taken

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 1>from that officer and we turned back around and pointed

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>it at him, I think that tells a story in itself.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. So I completely disagree with what the position

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<v Speaker 1>that the mirror took on termulating that officer. I think

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>that we, you know, they need to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>look at this whole use of force situation to determine

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.360
<v Speaker 1>whether or not that force was reasonable and what on that.

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I have the exact language of what a suspected felony

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>would be. And I'll get to that in a minute here.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have the confrontation. You can hear the cops,

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think they were. I think we're all

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:19.240
<v Speaker 1>taken off guard just watching it. Um. But when you

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, you hear them, you know, stop fighting, stop fighting. UM,

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>you know you're gonna get taste. You're gonna get taste.

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, stop fighting. Then you hear that he's taking

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>the taser. UM a slight scuffle. For my perception, I

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>saw the two cops hit by mister Brooks twice. He's

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<v Speaker 1>he runs off with the taser. As he's running, he

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>turns around and seems to fire it. One question I have,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have one or two shots in that taser?

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Because I thought it was only one? Yeah, typically only

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>one shot you got you got the one. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the biggest fan of it. It's an option,

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 1>but I think there's got to be other options that

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>we give police down the road as we now are reevaluating,

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, other non lethal UM tools and a police

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>officers just arsenal if you will in moments like this,

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>non lethal meaning it will be effective, but it will

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 1>also save more lives. Do you, based on the video

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<v Speaker 1>that you see, do you think the shooting was justified.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to really get get into the mindset of

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the oficer, but I'm gonna tell you if if it's

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>me and I'm in the field and this situation is

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.359
<v Speaker 1>happening in real time, and you gotta think these these

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>are split second situation. I'm thinking about the way I've

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.759
<v Speaker 1>experienced it where I've we've had officers to die in

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the line of duty because they've missed guns, they've missed weapon. Okay,

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>when that officer when that when when when mister Brooks

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>took off and turned around with that weapon. In that

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.359
<v Speaker 1>officer's mind, I'm seeing the same thing I'm seeing gun.

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing weapons, and I'm thinking pull your weapon in fire. Now,

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 1>I've heard all these arguments about why he just didn't

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 1>shoot him in the leg. You know, why did he

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>why did he have you know, why didn't he shoot

0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>him with There's no training that says to shoot for

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>the lake, of course, not absolutely not no. In fact,

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>we trained the shooting a match. Yeah, of course you're

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>shooting to stop the threat. You're not shooting that to

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.280
<v Speaker 1>execute or kill a person you're shooting to stop the threat.

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's what this convolution of of of the media

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 1>is kind of planning in a certain way to make

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>it appear that there's this there's this major problem within

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 1>law enforcement where law enforce was just killing black people. Well,

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>first of all, let's talk about community interaction with law enforcement.

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.959
<v Speaker 1>We just start gearing people up with I talk about

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.919
<v Speaker 1>training all the time. It's not just the officers being

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>trained on how to use force. It's on individuals. It's

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 1>if it's a community understanding how force can be used.

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>You have to understand it what predicament you can and

0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>cannot be aggressive with an officer in no situation should

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 1>be aggressive with acer. But this, this was this was

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>like I said, this was not a George Floyd's situation.

0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>This guy here, he put himself in harm's way by

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>his acts worth all the sad tragedy. Again, in the

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 1>moment Bernie Carroll leading up to this, I saw the

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:11.239
<v Speaker 1>interaction between the officer and with Ray Schard Brooks. I

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:15.120
<v Speaker 1>thought the officers were professional. It was one moment where

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the first cop that had asked him, you know, to

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.279
<v Speaker 1>park in the in the parking spot and get out

0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 1>of the lane. The drive through lane couldn't be more compassionate.

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was a real conversation between two human

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.200
<v Speaker 1>beings at that point. They were listening, and they were

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>they were courteous, they were professional, um, and they were

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>just there's nothing more they could have done. Um. They

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 1>followed the policy by the book. Um. You know, the

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>confrontation itself. I got to admit when I saw the

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>when I saw the the body camp footage, I was

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>a bit surprised at how you know, the courteous both

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.879
<v Speaker 1>sides were, um. And he even said, Brooks even said,

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I know you got a factor of you being from

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>New York and this being the genteel South. But but

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>but he's you know, he even says to the officer,

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I know, you're just doing your job. Um.

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>But the second they went to handcuff him, it changed.

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Then there was the assault, the attack, the you know,

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the seizure of the weapon. But but I want to

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I want to comment something that the sergeant said. And look,

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you know he comes out of Dallas PD. It's one

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>of the best departments in the country. Um, you know,

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:34.600
<v Speaker 1>great cops. It's it's a rough town to work in

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and many, you know, and they've lost a bunch of

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 1>cops in the line of duty. I remember my son

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>was at one of the last funerals. Um there's a

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>point that he made about the community and what the

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>community has to do. And here's my problem with what's

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>going on today shown and it refers to exactly what

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>he said. Why aren't the mayors and why aren't the

0:41:56.280 --> 0:42:00.919
<v Speaker 1>governors in towns around the country today telling the communities

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you cannot attack the police and assault the police. It's

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 1>against the law. You cannot resist arrest, you cannot obstruct

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>or interfere with an arresting officer. You can't run from

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the police, you can't hit him with your car, you

0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>can't disarm them. Why aren't they denouncing this action? The

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>mayor fired this guy, threw him under the bus, crucified

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 1>him in the court of public opinion without even a hearing.

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, that villainizes the cops, victimizes the thugs,

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>when in fact they should be telling if you're going

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>to scream and yell about reforms with policing, well you

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.320
<v Speaker 1>better be screaming and yelling at the communities where this

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:51.760
<v Speaker 1>stuff is happening, and they are completely annihilating the cops.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, as we continue, Former Commissioner of the New

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>York Police Department, Bernie Carrick also with us. Sergeant Demitrich

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Penny is with us out of Dallas. You know, if

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you look at the encounter, I mean, the stories changed

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit. Now. I think it took a lot

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to wake him up. When it was obviously his car

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>was in the drive through lane. He seemed a little disoriented,

0:43:11.560 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>um seemed to get more oriented as the encounter went on,

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:17.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, changed the story a little bit. In the beginning,

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>he sounded confused and kind of out of it, and

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>then he was specific about I only had a drink.

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Then it was a drink and a half of margharita. No,

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>it was top shelf. I don't know what kind of

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 1>drink I had. I mean, it really took me by surprise,

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, watching it, it was like what you would

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:42.280
<v Speaker 1>expect in an encounter where there's respect on both sides,

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 1>just up until that moment and I get these I look,

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I believe those cops were probably shock that happened. Sergeant.

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean that what they called me of guard just

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>watching it, I mean, because that's not normal behavior. But

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>but we do know that this individual was intoxicated at

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the time. I mean, I think we you know, we

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you lose a little bit of the rationale. We're dealing

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.279
<v Speaker 1>with that. And I was fine up too, you know.

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was almost like he was agreeing to

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to you know, he knew he had done wrong. The

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 1>officer had to had to take in the jail. But

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the fight, the fight is where the circumstances changed. Like

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, we were lost entirely. Too many officers, and

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>officers are they're trying to do the best that they're can.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're faced with we're faced with, you know,

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 1>dealing with the legal challenges on one side, and then

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with the lawlessness on the other side. And

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.840
<v Speaker 1>now you have, you know, political leaders saying that we

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 1>want to defund the police. It's it's hard enough as

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>it is for law enforces to do that job. The

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>average response time for an officer to even show up

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>at a call to a priority call is three to

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.280
<v Speaker 1>five minutes. When right now it's taking these it's taking

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 1>officers because they don't have enough officers to be there.

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Now it's taking up between ten and thirteen minutes. We

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>know that there's a problem, there's a problem, but these

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 1>problems are created by what's happened, these these social issues

0:44:56.960 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 1>that are happening in the community, and our political leaders

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.279
<v Speaker 1>are not pushed and back on. They're not saying, hey,

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>we need law and order in our community. We need

0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:08.279
<v Speaker 1>our police officers to be protected. Nobody's gonna want to

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>enter this profession if they think, in a snap of

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 1>a down that they're going to be prosecuted for following

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.759
<v Speaker 1>their own training. Gotta I gotta take a break here

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>at Sergeant Dimitric Penny with the Dallas Police Force, president

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:25.280
<v Speaker 1>of Dallas, Texas Falling Officer Association, now a congressional candidate

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:30.399
<v Speaker 1>in the thirtieth district. Former NYPD Commissioner Bernie Kerrigg eight

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>hundred and nine four one Sean. I'll also talk about

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>all the chaos that has been going on out in

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Seattle Minneapolis to fund the police. We've got a lot

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>more ground to cover with both of them. We'll continue.

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:43.800
<v Speaker 1>How long do you think Seattle in those few blocks

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 1>looks like this, I don't know. We could have a

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>summer of love. Well tell that to the police who

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be in that precinct though, But I

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 1>understand your sentiment. Mayor. We don't have to sacrifice public

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>safety for First Amendment rights. Both can exist and we'll

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.759
<v Speaker 1>make sure that both the assistant Seattle, oh is it?

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 1>And Jimmie, every time I just try to have a

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>normal conversation with you just goes right to insts. Is

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that against the law? Is again against the law to

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>insult a man in blue at a normal conversation. Uh,

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys get called the time, and you get and

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:32.320
<v Speaker 1>you take down the blacks and you get video. Have

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>a good day, Jamie. I want him arrested for physical assault.

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.760
<v Speaker 1>All right. That was a videotape on viral on Twitter

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>where cops was very nicely dealing with somebody and the

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:50.319
<v Speaker 1>person just starts screaming the saying could please be nice? Um,

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.359
<v Speaker 1>and then they just turn around and walked away. We're

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>now seeing now a lot of police around the country

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:00.720
<v Speaker 1>are just saying, you know what, this isn't worth it anymore.

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to do this job. And they're leaving

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 1>in droves, and you know, you see now it's gotten

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:11.239
<v Speaker 1>in the world of politics and Clyburn, I feel the

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>police now more than during segregation, truck drivers are saying

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>they won't deliver the cities with defunded police departments. They

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's safe. The defund effort gets bigger and

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:27.720
<v Speaker 1>bigger and bigger. The Seattle Mayer's saying that this autonomous zone,

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the summer of love zone, the safe space for spaghetti,

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:35.600
<v Speaker 1>pot lux and movies for the summer of love, is

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>just madness. You see what's been happening all around the

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:42.439
<v Speaker 1>country in every way shape Maunter inform. And you see

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:44.919
<v Speaker 1>now police precincts being burned to the ground and others

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>being taken over completely. You don't see any efforts to

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:52.879
<v Speaker 1>even stop it in any way. You have an entire

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Florida city swat team that resigned after the police chief

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>was kneeling with the protesters. That will remain on the

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>police force. But they've left the swat team out in

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:06.879
<v Speaker 1>Hollandale Beach. So no thanks, we don't need this now.

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.840
<v Speaker 1>One Democratic Al Green is now calling for believe it

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 1>was him, Yeah, it was him, calling for the creation

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of a Department of Reconciliation. Okay, I don't know what

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:18.879
<v Speaker 1>that means, because if you surrender to anarchy, and they're

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 1>able to take over city blocks and police precincts that

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:25.359
<v Speaker 1>nothing has done to stop it. Who are you going

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to call when something happens? I mean, this is the

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 1>madness of all of this. Congresswoman Omar defending the call

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>to dismantle the Minneapolis police. Now again she now also,

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:42.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's unbelievable. It's just getting from bad

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:46.360
<v Speaker 1>to worse here. And you see anarchy now reigning and

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 1>this is now the I guess you know, now a

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.880
<v Speaker 1>big issue in the campaign. And what is this growing divide?

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>How does it all end in the end here? Anyway,

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 1>we continue with former MYPD Commissioner Bernie Kerry and also

0:49:01.800 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>he's the author of the Grave Above the Grave. He

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.799
<v Speaker 1>was the commissioner in New York's Police Police Department nine

0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:11.439
<v Speaker 1>eleven one. As we all know, Sergeant Dimitric Penny, twenty

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>one year vet Dallas Police also now a congressional candidate

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Texas Congressional District number thirty. Let me go back to

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 1>what's going on in Minneapolis. The Stevefund, the police effort,

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>the anarchists or the Free Love Zone CHAZ as they

0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 1>call it, utopia as they call it. Now take it

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 1>over city blocks. And by the way, on top of it,

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Bernie Carrick, we have over eight hundred officers now that

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 1>have been hurt, a number of them now killed, a

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 1>number of them permanently injured, one paralyzed in Vegas, and

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, rocks and bottles and bricks and molotov cocktails,

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and seeing no desire for the president who's begging these

0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:00.839
<v Speaker 1>cities to restore order, they don't. They refuse to take it. Um.

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>They put the entire from my perspective, they put the

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>entire city of their cities at risk. Here. Plus, Sean,

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you have, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars in

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 1>devastation damage as a result of the arts and in looting.

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 1>You've got about twenty people that were innocence of ians

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that were shot and killed throughout this. Nobody's nobody's marching

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>on their behalf. But I want to bring up a point, Sean,

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that I think is lost in the mix here. Most

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>of these cities, every one of the cities you just mentioned,

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and most of the cities around the country where you

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:46.200
<v Speaker 1>have the highest violent crime rate and the highest murder rate,

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>they're all run by democrats. They're run by democrats that

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 1>have there. They're far left leaning. Uh, you know, radicals

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 1>in many cases who basically wanted minished and abolish policing

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 1>in general. And I think the lesson people had they

0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:10.240
<v Speaker 1>should focus on that. They should look at New York City.

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:14.399
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety four, when we averaged about twenty two

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:19.919
<v Speaker 1>hundred murders per year, we were the capital of homicide

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 1>of murder in the United States of America, and over

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 1>an eight year period under Giuliani, that number dropped by

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>sixty three, by seventy percent, the murdered number dropped by seventies,

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:35.919
<v Speaker 1>violent crime by sixty three, and in the black communities

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in New York City that number dropped. Murder dropped by

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 1>close to eighty percent. Thousands of black lives were saved

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 1>as a result of basically enforcing law in order. We

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't have these problems with riots and all this other

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:58.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff we had had. We had issues within the police

0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 1>department that we had to deal with, but at the

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:03.719
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, we had a leader, we had

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 1>a mayor that enforced the law, dealt with the communities.

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any problems As the police commissioner. I

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 1>had fifty five thousand people working for me. I had

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:19.240
<v Speaker 1>no problems in the black community, so we had great relationships.

0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:23.640
<v Speaker 1>It can be done, but today it's not being done.

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 1>And in every one of those cities where black lives

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:30.279
<v Speaker 1>are being slaughtered at by numbers that compare with a

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:34.919
<v Speaker 1>war zone, like Chicago and Saint Louis and Baltimore, they're

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.400
<v Speaker 1>role run by Democrats. And I think that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>has to be looked at. Okay, and your take, sergeant, Yes,

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>just look, I want to play up on a commissioners position.

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.520
<v Speaker 1>In fact, they're all four on the four hundred and

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>thirty five US House seats. This is why I'm running

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 1>those four hundred and thirty five House seats. Twenty eight

0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>percent of them a majority minority districts. All of them

0:52:57.280 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 1>are run by Democrats. No Republicans in no seats. Now,

0:53:00.640 --> 0:53:03.080
<v Speaker 1>what we've done on the last every over the last

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 1>fifty years, the failed social economic policies have led to

0:53:07.640 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 1>the failures in these communities. Now, I come from the

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 1>inner city. I come from I came from a community

0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 1>where police just didn't come in because of the level

0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 1>of crime. We didn't want them there. But we were

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 1>being victimized at a higher rate than anywhere else in

0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the country. And I say, everyone's an advocate until they

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>become a victim. I said this last time, everyone's an

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:31.200
<v Speaker 1>advocate until they come a victim. When I had to

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>witness my own cousin get killed in front of me,

0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.400
<v Speaker 1>but for me to say, man, I got to get

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 1>out of here like that had to wake something, had

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to wake me up. And and what's happening is you

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:42.759
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of people that aren't from these communities

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 1>that are that are that are caring the guard letter

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 1>and saying that we want the police out, we want

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>them out. Well, guess what who's want of police these communities.

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Once you get them out, you get rid of the police,

0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 1>then nobody's going all the people are gonna do. They're

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be subjected to more and more boling crime and

0:53:57.719 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the boding crime rate regardless of what we do, because

0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:03.040
<v Speaker 1>we can't get people the goverment to come into this profession,

0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:06.839
<v Speaker 1>the viol and crown raids still going up across the country. Now,

0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:09.880
<v Speaker 1>on another note, I would like to also talk about

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 1>our law enforcement officers. Okay, everyone wants to. We want

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>to bring up the First Amendment right to protest and

0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:19.400
<v Speaker 1>with and then first, amenber right, the protests should be

0:54:19.520 --> 0:54:21.840
<v Speaker 1>protected by the first amendber of rights. We're all against that,

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean all we're all support we all support that,

0:54:25.120 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 1>But by that same token, we have to start talking

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:31.879
<v Speaker 1>about these officers for a teenth Amendment right to fair

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:34.840
<v Speaker 1>and equal protections under the law, because they're not just

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.400
<v Speaker 1>going out there to be attacked, to be attacked and

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:40.920
<v Speaker 1>be and be murdered, and and and and be little

0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.880
<v Speaker 1>by individuals that don't want to follow the law. We

0:54:44.040 --> 0:54:46.479
<v Speaker 1>gotta start getting back to the conversation and talking about

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>where does the letter of the law mean anything, the

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:53.399
<v Speaker 1>rule of the law, what does it mean anything. That's

0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:56.120
<v Speaker 1>how a miracle became a great the great democracy that

0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:58.680
<v Speaker 1>it was, was our law. And we have to get

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:00.560
<v Speaker 1>back to business and start talking about how we're going

0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:03.080
<v Speaker 1>to take people. And that's why I'm running. So what

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:06.560
<v Speaker 1>do you do now when you got a mayor and

0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you got a governor that are allowing anarchists to take

0:55:09.760 --> 0:55:12.919
<v Speaker 1>over city blocks and city precincts, which I never thought

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 1>would happen in my lifetime, Bernie Kerrick, And they reject,

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:21.279
<v Speaker 1>steadfastly reject the president's daily offer for help and assistance

0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to restore order, which, by the way, as long as

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:26.759
<v Speaker 1>they're not in there killing each other, I don't think

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 1>the President should be getting involved that. If that's how

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:31.839
<v Speaker 1>they want to run their state, If that's how they

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>want to run their cities and allow anarchists to do

0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:38.640
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing out there, unless and until it becomes

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 1>totally untenable, that's their responsibility. They say no, well, president

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:49.160
<v Speaker 1>offers help. No, Chicago, Illinois, president offers help. No. New

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:55.840
<v Speaker 1>York same thing. No. You listen, and I want to

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:58.279
<v Speaker 1>remind people those numbers I gave you in New York City.

0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:02.239
<v Speaker 1>That was during Giuliani's term. After Giuliani, Mayor Bloomberg came

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in for twelve years. For twelve years, so for twenty

0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:14.240
<v Speaker 1>years straight, every single year there was violent crime reduced

0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 1>murder in New York City. We had the most substantial

0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:23.840
<v Speaker 1>reductions in US history ever. And the only time, the

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:27.240
<v Speaker 1>only time in twenty years after that twenty year period,

0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the only time it started to spike was under a Democrat,

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 1>under Mayor n Blasio. Then it started to change, and

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>in the last two weeks it spiked dramatically. And you

0:56:39.560 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 1>have a mayor that basically told his cops, in his words,

0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you're going to use a light touch in dealing with

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 1>these thugs and rioters and arsonists and anarchists. And they

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 1>burned Fifth Avenue, they burned Madison Avenue, soho the Diamond Exchange.

0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.919
<v Speaker 1>And you had a governor sitting in Albany saying, oh, yeah,

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not happy with the cops. I'm not happy with

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the police. They didn't do their job. The mayor didn't

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:08.839
<v Speaker 1>do his job. Really well, what is your job? You've

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 1>run the state of New York. Where are you? Why

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:15.800
<v Speaker 1>weren't you there? What are you doing? And you know

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>what for any of these any of these executives, any

0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>of these mayors or governors in any state that refuses

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>help from the President with regard to the National Guard

0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:31.160
<v Speaker 1>in rescoring law and order, they have a constitutional obligation

0:57:31.240 --> 0:57:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to their citizens, and they're refusing for political reasons because

0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:39.160
<v Speaker 1>they know the president's right, and they also know the

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:41.920
<v Speaker 1>President's not going to stand for it. And if they

0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>can't do their job, and he has to the job

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:47.720
<v Speaker 1>will get done. So what do they do They refuse?

0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:51.320
<v Speaker 1>That's the refuse. Yeah, I gotta tell you, I'm gonna

0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>have to let you both go. But former Commissioner m YPD.

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie Karen, Sergeant Dmitrich Penny. By the way, he's running

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<v Speaker 1>for Congress Texas c D thirty Congressional District thirty. Thank

0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you both. Eight hundred and ninety four one. Sean, you

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of the program, right, Jim

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 1>is in Texas. Jim, You're next on the Sean Hannity Show.

0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:10.680
<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm good, sir. How are you today?

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm good, sir. Glad you called excellent. Sir. I'll get

0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:17.000
<v Speaker 1>right to my point. In the recent weeks, I've heard

0:58:17.040 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you speaking a lot about how you feel that what

0:58:20.400 --> 0:58:24.200
<v Speaker 1>happened in the Floyd incident was really just due to

0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a lack of training with police officers, and you want

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 1>more training. And I understand that point, sir, but I

0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:35.760
<v Speaker 1>couldn't disagree with you more. And the reason is, sir,

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:40.280
<v Speaker 1>is Floyd did not die from the chokehold. That was

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:42.440
<v Speaker 1>not a lack of training. That was just a lack

0:58:42.520 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 1>of moral character. That was just pure evil. In most agencies,

0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the chokehold is already illegal. And if you know anything

0:58:49.960 --> 0:58:52.600
<v Speaker 1>about training like you say you do, you can see

0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:55.120
<v Speaker 1>that Floyd was not in a chokehold. He just had

0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 1>a knee on his neck. And I don't remember the

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:05.320
<v Speaker 1>last that were killed from a chokehold, and it just

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.080
<v Speaker 1>drives me crazy. And they when I hear people say

0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 1>we're not trained well enough. I'm a patrol pugent. I've

0:59:11.200 --> 0:59:15.360
<v Speaker 1>been a police officer for thirteen years, and we get

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 1>trained beyond belief. We go through de escalation training, we

0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:23.640
<v Speaker 1>go through a defensive tactics training with martial arts involved

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:27.160
<v Speaker 1>in it. Even even now in Texas when you go

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:31.120
<v Speaker 1>through the driver's license when you're drivers d when you're

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a young person, you're trained on how to interact with

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 1>police officers. Therefore, police officers are trained on what young

0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>people are trained to interact with. You know, we have

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:46.240
<v Speaker 1>we're trained in de escalation markets and in our my

0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>particular area, we even have a unit that goes out

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<v Speaker 1>with a social worker for suicidal attempts in any kind

0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of mental issue and the other way. I think that's

0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:01.800
<v Speaker 1>a great idea to get a company police and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the experts in that field, because cops can't possibly do

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<v Speaker 1>all that. Listen, I gotta run, But I know the

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<v Speaker 1>White House is expected to come out with reforms and

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<v Speaker 1>this week a lot of them hopefully will include training

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<v Speaker 1>and will include other people that could show up and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe help, you know, professionally, those people that might have

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<v Speaker 1>other issues, problems that they've got to deal with. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not against any of that. More training. I'm absolutely more

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<v Speaker 1>options in terms of non lethal tools available for police officers.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that idea too, and I've been talking about that extensively.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I gotta take a break. We'll come back

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side. By the way, we will get

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<v Speaker 1>into the issue. What about Okay, the uprisings that are

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<v Speaker 1>now happening around the country. Is COVID nineteens resurgence a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal? What about riots in our city streets and

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<v Speaker 1>now police standing down? Straight ahead right here for our

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<v Speaker 1>final news round up and information overload and a far

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<v Speaker 1>more serious scene. Watch. These images are really just an ugly,

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<v Speaker 1>a dangerous scene at the state Capitol in Michigan as

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<v Speaker 1>we look at this extreme group of people. Those pictures

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<v Speaker 1>and those clashes really show the chaos and you're out

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<v Speaker 1>there with guns. I don't want to call them rallies.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not protests. These quote unquote protests. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's the right word, because protests are supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be peaceful. I'm not embarrassed to say that I

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<v Speaker 1>was afraid. It's not clear what they're demanding. Demanding to

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<v Speaker 1>infect other people, demanding to make other people thick. It's dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>and these people can take this home with them and

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<v Speaker 1>hurt their families and all the rest. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>ask them if they're willing to sign away their right

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<v Speaker 1>to treatment if and when they get infected. Who the

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<v Speaker 1>hell do you think you are? I don't understand what

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<v Speaker 1>is wrong with people stay at home. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be clear and how I characterize this is mostly a protest.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not, generally speaking unruly. That ain't a riot

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<v Speaker 1>what we're seeing right now in Minneapolis. With me, any

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable person would say we shouldn't be destroying other people's property.

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<v Speaker 1>But these are not reasonable times. And please show me

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<v Speaker 1>where it says that protests are supposed to be polite

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<v Speaker 1>and peaceful. The beautiful thing is we're seeing citizens who

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<v Speaker 1>are carrying in concerned, they're hitting the streets. Heartwarming to

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<v Speaker 1>see so many people turn out peacefully. You know, Brook

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<v Speaker 1>I pick this is a march, really, but as they're

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<v Speaker 1>coming off, it's peaceful. They're saying peaceful protests across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bringing people together, community with unity. People are risking

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<v Speaker 1>COVID to explain to this country that we're fed up news,

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<v Speaker 1>round up information overload hour on the Sean Hannity Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is unbelievable. We're living in the craziest times.

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<v Speaker 1>We see what happens in Atlanta, you know, we see

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<v Speaker 1>what is happening in Seattle. We see what's happening to

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<v Speaker 1>fund the police. We're in the middle of an election

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<v Speaker 1>season with one hundred and forty one days to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is it's getting scarier by the day. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about a COVID resurgence in some places.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the numbers that I'm seeing are like

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<v Speaker 1>quote percentage increases from the day before, three weeks before.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that it was as bad. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've said from the beginning, it's a matter of when,

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<v Speaker 1>not a matter of if we get a resurgence. Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Rozowey said that as well. We bring back to the

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<v Speaker 1>program Joe Conscha, commentator opinion calumnist for The Hill, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Simone, host of the Morning Show here in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Our flagship in New York, AM seven ten wr Mark Simone,

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<v Speaker 1>We've begin with you big overall picture, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty one days. The American people, they're the ultimate jury.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have to sort through all of this. Your thought, sir, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden not the slickest candidate in the world, not

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<v Speaker 1>the smoothest, talking, fast candidate in the world. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how he defends defund the police. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what possible argument he can make for that. He's backed

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<v Speaker 1>away from it, but he's still gonna have to answer

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<v Speaker 1>for that, and allowing six blocks Seattle to be seized

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<v Speaker 1>and declared a foreign country. He's tied to all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>These Democrats don't get their party back from the real

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<v Speaker 1>crazy progressives. They have no shot in November. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>they do anyway, but this is just making it one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most impossible miss is mission impossible for Biden?

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<v Speaker 1>If he ever gets out of the basement, Oh, if

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<v Speaker 1>he what do you mean? If he ever gets out,

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<v Speaker 1>He's getting out for like five seconds at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite lionel last week, Joe Conchez. Oh, I'm fine

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<v Speaker 1>with him. In the basement, he sees two people a day.

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<v Speaker 1>The two body men that said he sees two people

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<v Speaker 1>a day. I was a Democratic caucus caucus. No you haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a line, dog faced pony soldier, you said you are.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm nominated Democrat, a lifelong Democrat, a proud Democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>Biden vomba Democrat. Because we cannot get reelected. We cannot

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<v Speaker 1>win this reelection. Excuse me. We can only re elect

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. I hope you'll all join us together. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we can win back the House. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the house. Increase it and flip the sentence. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a large portion of the union workers. They are gun enthusiasts,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are at to be trying to diminish your

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<v Speaker 1>second amount of right and think we are gun, you're force.

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<v Speaker 1>They go to shush, shush. No one is in a

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<v Speaker 1>position where they have a significant financial disability as a

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<v Speaker 1>consequence of this stars this particular crisis. We can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>We did that. We've been through this before with the coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been through this before excooming. We've been through this

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<v Speaker 1>before with dealing with the viruses at the N one

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<v Speaker 1>h one five as well as what happened in Africa

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<v Speaker 1>one way again, they get inspires by great leaders who

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, called a supped or better angels, from

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<v Speaker 1>Abraham Lincoln to all the way you know, to f

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<v Speaker 1>Dr to to John Kennedy Bride et ce Rock. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to take care of the cure that will make

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<v Speaker 1>the problem worst, no matter what, no matter what. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're supposed to cough into your elbow. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, sir. I learned that actually covering your White House,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Actually, actually that's true. But fortunately I'm alone

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<v Speaker 1>in my home. But that's okay. Why doesn't he just

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<v Speaker 1>act like a president? That's a stupid way to say, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>goodead No, no, I probably best I known. And what

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<v Speaker 1>we have done is the reason why most of the

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<v Speaker 1>world has repaired to us, particularly after World War Two,

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<v Speaker 1>is because of who we are as a nation, We

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<v Speaker 1>the people, we hold these truths, etc. Sounds corny, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's real. If we were setting up an education system

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in our history, as we did

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<v Speaker 1>at the turn of the last in the late eighteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>we would not say twelve years was enough. Twelve years

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<v Speaker 1>is not enough to live in a tent. The second

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of the middle of the twenty first century. What

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<v Speaker 1>is President Trump's level of culpability? What's his level of responsibility? Say,

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<v Speaker 1>toward the illness and fatalities we're witnessing every few minutes

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<v Speaker 1>these days. I put it slightly differently here, what is

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<v Speaker 1>his responsibility? And what if there wasn't an allocating responsibility? Is?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'll let history do that. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>get direct cash relief payments out to as many people

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, as quickly as possible. Again, this may sound straightforward,

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<v Speaker 1>but no Americans should have to wait a single minute

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<v Speaker 1>so Donald Trump can put his signature on a physical check.

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<v Speaker 1>Former vice president and Democratic presidential Kennet Joe Biden, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for your time, so appreciate it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for giving me the time. Thank you. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>wonder where I am now. I know when they asked

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<v Speaker 1>me where is Joe Biden? I say he was on

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<v Speaker 1>them showing MSNBC. People say all the time, Oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to get the vice president of the basement. He's

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<v Speaker 1>fine in the basebook. Two people see him a day,

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<v Speaker 1>his two bodied people. That's it, and let Trump keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing what Trump's doing. It's hard for the vice president

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<v Speaker 1>to break through and he gets to sit down there

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<v Speaker 1>quietly with no answers and a track record that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be gone over with a fine tooth comb, and everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>we begin to look, it's not particularly favorable to anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts, well, I think that the fine tooth comb

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<v Speaker 1>will probably be used by few right and some other

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<v Speaker 1>outlets perhaps, but not many in the traditional mainstream media

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<v Speaker 1>are going to scrutinize Joe Biden's record in any way,

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<v Speaker 1>shape or form. We've seen that now to this point

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<v Speaker 1>that he could say literally whatever he wants and not

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<v Speaker 1>be challenged. For instance, the president won't leave office even

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<v Speaker 1>if he loses, and I'll have the military protect him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not going to leave, right, And that is

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<v Speaker 1>just stuff that even like Alex Jones here is and says,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, that that's out of control, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way out there. But he gets a pass because he

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<v Speaker 1>could say whatever he wants. It's because obviously people want

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<v Speaker 1>to see him get elected. But to Mark's point before,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, picture miss parallel universe for a moment, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what we're seeing in Seattle. Let's say a

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<v Speaker 1>large mob took over a neighborhood and say I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know Brooklyn, right, And in fact, the mob isn't even

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<v Speaker 1>a mob. It's the Covington Catholic kids, and they're wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the Maga hat and this time you arm them, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And they forced the police to evacuate their own building,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they construct walls, which are bad apparently, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they patrol the area and say who gets in,

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<v Speaker 1>who gets out. It's their own company in their country,

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<v Speaker 1>and they call themselves CHAZ, which of course doesn't stand

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<v Speaker 1>for the capitals whole Autonomo zone. This time it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Covington High School Autonomo zone. What would the media reaction

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<v Speaker 1>be because this story is largely being ignored, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know what the media reaction will because I'm ve enough

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<v Speaker 1>to remember, I don't know, a month ago, and you

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<v Speaker 1>played it in your montage before, when some protesters took

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<v Speaker 1>over or at least you know, for a little bit anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the State House in Michigan, and some were armed, and

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<v Speaker 1>the only word that I could think of in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the media coverage was maybe it's two words. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not really sure what the answer is on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Freaked out and we're not seeing the freak out anymore

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<v Speaker 1>because people agree with the message overall to fund the

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<v Speaker 1>police and all these things. So, yeah, what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of Seattle, when you compared to what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to Michigan, you could teach a class on what media biases.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what it looks like. You know. The bias

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<v Speaker 1>is so palpable, so real. And I'm not overstating at

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Simone, every second minute hour of twenty four hour day,

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<v Speaker 1>every day since this guy, even before he was elected.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we learned a lot of how they tried.

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<v Speaker 1>People in power, the highest levels of power, tried to

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<v Speaker 1>try to subvert a free and fair election. We learned

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<v Speaker 1>that there was no Russia collusion. We see the double standard,

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<v Speaker 1>quid pro quo, Joe zero experience hunter and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>this And I watched city after city after city, No, universally, nobody,

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<v Speaker 1>There's not one person I know that ever defended what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to George Floyd. Not one. No, it's absolutely the

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<v Speaker 1>single worst cop I've ever seen in my life. Ray Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest police Commission America, was on the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>He even he said, in his thirty forty years, the

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<v Speaker 1>worst thing he's ever seen. That's a problem with the protesting.

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<v Speaker 1>You busy protesting to people who agree with you for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part. And I hope this protest isn't wasted.

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<v Speaker 1>You got America's attention. Use it for something specific, Get

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<v Speaker 1>specific changes and things that you can get institutionalized. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun to rename streets and paint things on the street,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's just symbolic. It's not going to make any

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<v Speaker 1>real change that don't don't waste the protest, get something

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished with it. Well, okay, so, but how do you

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<v Speaker 1>stop an effort when they have the veto proof, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>city Council of Minneapolis that says we're going to defund

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<v Speaker 1>the police. What do you do when you have a

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle mayor that is calling this a summer of love

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<v Speaker 1>and the festive Zone and every other bizarre thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you know is being said about all of this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading this daily and I'm like, you're kidding me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna call it a festive zone. We're gonna say that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like a spig street party. When you

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<v Speaker 1>just take over city blocks, take over precincts. Cops don't

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<v Speaker 1>go in the mayor doesn't care, the governor doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want it to get involved at all. Seemingly well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is what kills Democrats in November. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize it yet, this way is started. They look

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<v Speaker 1>at these crazy left wing progressive build the Blasio type mayors,

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<v Speaker 1>this Minneapolis guy, this Dugie Howser left wing mayor, the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor of Seattle who just gives up control. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you see Joe Biden, you know, who just looks too slow,

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<v Speaker 1>too out of control. Donald Trump said at once, the

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<v Speaker 1>President said, this is the perfect candidate for these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what the big donors want. They'll put him

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<v Speaker 1>in the nursing home and they'll run the country. And

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to start to realize that even before

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<v Speaker 1>the debates happened. Yeah Joe, Yeah, Joe Biden isn't running

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<v Speaker 1>for president. Guys. Actually, this Mark just perfectly stated. They

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<v Speaker 1>put him in. He's a vessel to get in because

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you can bring him moderates in Pennsylvania, Ohio and

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan and Wisconsin, those key states that Donald Trump took

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<v Speaker 1>lass time. And then from there people you don't even know,

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<v Speaker 1>forget who who the vice president is. People you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know. Behind the scenes, faceless people will be running

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<v Speaker 1>this country. Gotta take a break. More with Joe Concho,

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<v Speaker 1>More with Mark Simone on the other side, eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety four one, Sean, you want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the program, then your calls coming up next

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<v Speaker 1>half hour. Look, I want one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is really important is that we somehow

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<v Speaker 1>put that back on. There's somehow that we're in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where all right, as we continue with our friends

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Simone, Joe Concho, or with us all right, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>So where does this all end in a one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty one days now that we get to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the great Joe Biden and we see all of these

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<v Speaker 1>all of this anarchy, chaos, disorder, failure of big liberal

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<v Speaker 1>cities and states, does that now factor into what happens

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<v Speaker 1>in November? I would think so. I'm getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>the prediction business, by the way, because if you told

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<v Speaker 1>me even in January that everything that just happened the

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<v Speaker 1>last three months. I heard a great line from somebody recently.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, we have lived an entire decade in the

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<v Speaker 1>first five months of the twenties, right, crazy thing that's happened,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not so who knows what the next one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty five days holds because we've had no room.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark knows this. You know this, Sean. There hasn't been

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<v Speaker 1>a slow day in news probably I don't know three

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<v Speaker 1>or four years. So one hundred things can happen. But overall,

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, if the fund the police actually sticks

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<v Speaker 1>to Democrats and look, Alexandrocascio Cortez wants that, and she

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<v Speaker 1>is an advisor on the on the Biden campaign as

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<v Speaker 1>far as being part of the chairman of a task

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<v Speaker 1>force that he runs. If he if the president's able

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<v Speaker 1>to attach law and order and chaos to Democrats in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of defunding the police, in terms of that, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who's going to keep the country safe. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you let Biden and then you're gonna have seattle

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place, then that we get in a

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<v Speaker 1>very composition. All Right, We'll give the last forty five

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<v Speaker 1>seconds to our friend Mark Romone. Where's this headed? Mark?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea that they tried Russian collusion to

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<v Speaker 1>fake you raincall. They tried to tank you the economy,

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<v Speaker 1>They've tried a pandemic. They tried to riots, looting. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's next, Aliens from outer space, Locus. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what they got planned Locus. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't surprise me. At this point, we've seen everything

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<v Speaker 1>else and the incredible tough search for a vice president.

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't they search this hard for the right candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>They're working harder in the vice president needed in the

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<v Speaker 1>presidential candidate. Oh man, all right, Mark Simone and us

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<v Speaker 1>referenced by the way that you threw in there. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I didn't catch that. I caught that too, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way you think he Mark's clever. Mark likes to

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<v Speaker 1>throw these things out. By the way, in our next life,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wants to beat Mark Simone. And then only Linda

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<v Speaker 1>knows the truth. But a two hour radio shift every

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<v Speaker 1>day in middle of the day. Oh no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's nothing. That is that's the tip of the iceberg.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no more popular figure than than Mark Simone. The

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<v Speaker 1>rare times I go out, I turn around, there's Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy is a social butterfly among butterflies. Well that

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<v Speaker 1>means you're there too, Yeah, a few times I'm there.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always there, which means you're everywhere otherwise I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the library, the museum. Yeah, yeah, I don't even believe

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<v Speaker 1>that for a second. All right, thank you both. The

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and nine four one sewn you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of the program. All right, twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>now until the top of the hour, we'll get two

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<v Speaker 1>calls here in a minute. Eight hundred and ninety four

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<v Speaker 1>one sean, you want to be a part of the program.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have this book coming out, which I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>proud of, and I was worried at different times because

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to keep it as current as possible. I

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<v Speaker 1>started it over a year ago. It's called Live Free

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<v Speaker 1>or Die, America and the World on the Brink, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have it in Latin underneath live Free or America Dies.

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<v Speaker 1>And Okay that's hyperbole. No, And I actually think I

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<v Speaker 1>designed this book a special way because, and I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 1>it now with each passing day more than ever, that

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<v Speaker 1>the great country, this great republic. Chapter one a republic

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<v Speaker 1>if you can keep it. You know, it has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the Constitutional Convention and this widely told story

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<v Speaker 1>of Ben Franklin, and you know he comes out. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it a monarchy? Or a republic. It's a republic if

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<v Speaker 1>you can keep it. And I've never ever thought that

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<v Speaker 1>we would get this far in this country with so

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<v Speaker 1>many embracing the most radical and extreme ideas, ideals that

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<v Speaker 1>would absolutely upend the greatest, freest, best republic and constitutional

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<v Speaker 1>governance in the history of the world. Not perfect. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's perfect. We're not perfect. You know, we've watched

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<v Speaker 1>movements before. And the reason that I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>important that I go through a history, if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>of what founded the principles that our framers and founders

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<v Speaker 1>believed would make this the greatest country on earth, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't see this as a tipping point, critical

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<v Speaker 1>pivotal point in our history, then I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>America you're looking at. I mean, you've got groups of

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<v Speaker 1>people now that are happy with the idea of defunding

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<v Speaker 1>the police. You you have cities now seating blocks and

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<v Speaker 1>police precincts to anarchists and not doing a thing, not

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<v Speaker 1>lifting a finger to stop it and to maintain law

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<v Speaker 1>and order. You now see that curfews are meaningless, you know,

1:18:44.680 --> 1:18:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and you really you get to see the failure of

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<v Speaker 1>decades and decades of Democratic Party rule in cities, big

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<v Speaker 1>blue states, big blue cities all across the country. It

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<v Speaker 1>can't be any more stark than what we have now

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<v Speaker 1>on every single issue. And when you look over and

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<v Speaker 1>this is an entire chapter that you know, the fantasy land,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the new radical Democrat extremist party and their agenda,

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<v Speaker 1>and what is their agenda? Okay, well, ten years no

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<v Speaker 1>more oil or gas. You know, for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in seventy five years, we are energy independent. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the lifeblood of the world's economy. But they want to

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate it. If you eliminate it, it's a guaranteed prescription

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<v Speaker 1>for poverty. You now have of talk of everything is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be free. I go over all the costs mathematically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's impossible to implement Medicare for all ten years of

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two trillion dollars, the New Green Deal ninety four

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars. Okay, guys, be only taken four and four

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<v Speaker 1>and a half trillion a year. Do the math. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not complicated, and that would mean you have no defense.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of it, it is school is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be free, guaranteed government jobs, help, guaranteed government healthy foods,

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<v Speaker 1>got guaranteed education from basically the minute you can walk

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<v Speaker 1>to the you know, all the way through college, eliminating

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<v Speaker 1>school debt that people have to pay about who's going

1:20:12.800 --> 1:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>to pay for all of this? These these are the

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<v Speaker 1>false promises of liberalism. And then eventually, well then we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get rid of you know, cars, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have plug in stations everywhere. Okay, We're gonna just upend

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<v Speaker 1>the automobile industry like that. We're gonna get rid of eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>airplanes and cows. They're saying it. It's not that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>making it up. And you can see that if you

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<v Speaker 1>believe that they were moderates within the Democratic Party, you

1:20:36.520 --> 1:20:39.439
<v Speaker 1>see that their voices are squashed and shut down by

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<v Speaker 1>this this new extreme radical leftist party, you know. And

1:20:44.200 --> 1:20:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you can look at you know, pre coronavirus, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can see, okay, compared Donald Trump's agenda and what he

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<v Speaker 1>did for the country in a short period of time

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<v Speaker 1>under the worst of circumstances, I've never seen a president

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<v Speaker 1>hated to this extent. I've never seen a medias so

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine point nine since so harshly aligned against the president.

1:21:04.320 --> 1:21:06.800
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing in their world or minds that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>can do right. But he kept his promises on cutting

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<v Speaker 1>taxes and it worked. He kept his promises on ending

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<v Speaker 1>burdensome regulation and that worked. He said he'd get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of you know what, three or four to every one

1:21:18.280 --> 1:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>new regulation. It's like eight eighteen to one. He said

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<v Speaker 1>he'd appoint constitutionalists, not activist justices to the courts, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's done that too. He said he'd secure the border. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>by November, we'll have four hundred miles of brand new

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<v Speaker 1>border wall. And it was a heavy lift every step

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<v Speaker 1>of the way. You know, you have Democrats. They want

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<v Speaker 1>open borders. They create their sanctuary cities, their safe zones,

1:21:43.080 --> 1:21:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they're autonomous zones, their summers are free love whatever zones,

1:21:48.439 --> 1:21:51.360
<v Speaker 1>and you could see that they want open borders for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a good idea, especially considering the

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<v Speaker 1>heroine and the fete and all the cross into this

1:21:55.880 --> 1:21:59.560
<v Speaker 1>country from across the border. And I just as you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the foreign defense differences and foreign policy differences. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna bribe dictators with cargo planes full of cash

1:22:08.080 --> 1:22:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and other currency one hundred and fifty billion from mullahs

1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:13.640
<v Speaker 1>in Iran. The chant death to America and death to

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<v Speaker 1>Israel and burn our flags. You know you're gonna get

1:22:17.240 --> 1:22:21.960
<v Speaker 1>upset over Russia collusion, but not Hillary's dirty dossier. And

1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:25.120
<v Speaker 1>nobody in the media, no Democrats, seems upset over the

1:22:25.200 --> 1:22:29.040
<v Speaker 1>fact that there never was any evidence whatsoever of any

1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Trump Russia collusion. As a matter of fact, it's been debunked.

1:22:32.360 --> 1:22:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And they dragged the country through three years of hell,

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<v Speaker 1>and then once that didn't work out, then another six

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<v Speaker 1>months of hell over Ukraine. And I go into the

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<v Speaker 1>book in deep detail on that. How can that happen

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<v Speaker 1>in America? And as of now the book is done,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nobody's really been held accountable. I think they

1:22:49.200 --> 1:22:52.000
<v Speaker 1>will be, but so far they have it. But you know, Sean,

1:22:52.080 --> 1:22:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the one of the things, you know, and we've talked

1:22:54.000 --> 1:22:55.519
<v Speaker 1>about this so much over the past year when you

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<v Speaker 1>were writing this, and obviously you know, I've been with

1:22:58.080 --> 1:23:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you for fifteen years, so I've seen you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>such a You're a student of history, you love history,

1:23:03.479 --> 1:23:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think you know this book. Like when you

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<v Speaker 1>said I think I'm gonna write this, I'm like, oh,

1:23:07.160 --> 1:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>dear Lord, because you know, I know how hard conservative

1:23:09.880 --> 1:23:12.000
<v Speaker 1>victory was for you. In twenty ten and all that

1:23:12.120 --> 1:23:13.920
<v Speaker 1>we went through to get that message. I don't like

1:23:14.160 --> 1:23:16.360
<v Speaker 1>writing and everyone's gonna sell you during it from I mean, no,

1:23:16.439 --> 1:23:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm doing it. You know I did this, Linda,

1:23:18.840 --> 1:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And you know why, of course, and why I had

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<v Speaker 1>all these people that I asked to research this, research this, research,

1:23:24.240 --> 1:23:27.519
<v Speaker 1>this research this, and I mean I wanted to really

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<v Speaker 1>make a comprehensive I want to I'm laid out in

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<v Speaker 1>this book what is at stake. I have laid out

1:23:35.040 --> 1:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>exactly what is on the line in one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty one days. And I'll tell you right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll predict here now. If Donald J. Trump does not

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<v Speaker 1>win this election, guaranteed this country will be unrecognizable for

1:23:51.800 --> 1:23:55.160
<v Speaker 1>our kids and grandkids. It's a done deal. That I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that is poignant, That is true. There is this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very scary time. I mean, we are having people

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<v Speaker 1>call in I'm seeing it all over social media. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people that have called themselves hard left for years, and

1:24:06.400 --> 1:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about like we don't even recognize our own party,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we can't even what is this autonomous zone? You know,

1:24:12.439 --> 1:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like, who do you call when there

1:24:15.120 --> 1:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>is no police officer to come to you. You know,

1:24:17.040 --> 1:24:20.160
<v Speaker 1>what we all saw that happened to Minneapolis was heartbreaking

1:24:20.240 --> 1:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and terrifying and just so destructive to your soul, to

1:24:24.000 --> 1:24:26.879
<v Speaker 1>everybody who watched it. But then it became a movement

1:24:27.160 --> 1:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>that was already planned by a group called Antifa, that

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<v Speaker 1>was taking over the group of protesters that were doing

1:24:32.200 --> 1:24:34.439
<v Speaker 1>it for the right reasons, and we lost ourselves in

1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:36.679
<v Speaker 1>the message of it all. And it's like we should

1:24:36.720 --> 1:24:39.760
<v Speaker 1>be unifying over this and looking for solutions, but they're

1:24:39.960 --> 1:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>excusing it to continue. They are. You know, honestly, I

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<v Speaker 1>warned about Obama and his radical background and his agenda.

1:24:50.880 --> 1:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>He seems like a moderate compared to what's being discussed now.

1:24:54.120 --> 1:24:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Lie on every issue. Joe Biden, you know, y'all cave

1:24:56.479 --> 1:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>on that. I'll cave on that. I'm really with you

1:24:58.360 --> 1:25:01.599
<v Speaker 1>on here, here here, and we all know that Joe

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<v Speaker 1>is not exactly a guy with That's a fastball if

1:25:04.600 --> 1:25:07.559
<v Speaker 1>you ever had one. Yeah, and honestly too, I think

1:25:07.720 --> 1:25:10.559
<v Speaker 1>you know it saw a really interesting tweet by Colonel

1:25:10.600 --> 1:25:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Allen West this weekend, and he's in our prayers because

1:25:13.200 --> 1:25:15.559
<v Speaker 1>he just had a horrible motorcycle accident. Has gone through

1:25:15.560 --> 1:25:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot right now, but putting that aside, you know,

1:25:18.000 --> 1:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>he tweeted out and he said, you know, listen, he's like,

1:25:19.920 --> 1:25:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm an African American. I served in my military. He's like,

1:25:23.160 --> 1:25:25.519
<v Speaker 1>but you know, just because you tear down statues, you

1:25:25.600 --> 1:25:28.360
<v Speaker 1>don't erase history. History is what it is. We have

1:25:28.439 --> 1:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>to learn from it. And that dovetails exactly into what

1:25:30.720 --> 1:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about with your book. You know, we're looking

1:25:33.040 --> 1:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>through the prism of history. We're looking through all that

1:25:35.360 --> 1:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>has happened through our American history. And this Father's Day,

1:25:39.360 --> 1:25:41.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, when people are sitting down with their families,

1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>because that's what happens on Father's Day, just like we

1:25:43.800 --> 1:25:45.559
<v Speaker 1>talked about on Mother's Day, just like we talk about

1:25:45.560 --> 1:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>with anniversary's, birthday's weddings, where the family gets together. This

1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Father's Day, you know, we can take a look at

1:25:51.200 --> 1:25:54.639
<v Speaker 1>your book and say, Okay, this is how we got here,

1:25:54.880 --> 1:25:57.120
<v Speaker 1>this is how we stay here, this is how we

1:25:57.280 --> 1:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>keep America great, and this is how we build upon

1:26:00.040 --> 1:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>on our mistakes. We learn from them when we find solutions.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, your book is about hearkening back, looking from

1:26:05.840 --> 1:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and learning from history. A racing history does not help

1:26:08.920 --> 1:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>us to learn from the mistakes that we've made, and

1:26:11.120 --> 1:26:13.559
<v Speaker 1>when this book is an opportunity for fathers and sons

1:26:13.600 --> 1:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>and daughters and families to get together. You know, on

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<v Speaker 1>Father's Day, when you're sitting around the table and you're

1:26:18.200 --> 1:26:20.080
<v Speaker 1>looking at Live, Free or Die, you know, there's great

1:26:20.080 --> 1:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>book that you've written and you've taken the time to do.

1:26:22.640 --> 1:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>You know that such a great gift, you know, and

1:26:24.880 --> 1:26:27.439
<v Speaker 1>it has it just keeps on giving because you're learning

1:26:27.520 --> 1:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>every time you're reading, and it's something we can do together.

1:26:30.720 --> 1:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's one thing that I that I really

1:26:33.120 --> 1:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>spent a couple of things that really did a deep

1:26:35.840 --> 1:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>dive into, and that was our nation's founding in history,

1:26:39.160 --> 1:26:42.439
<v Speaker 1>I did a deep dive. Chapter four, Well one is

1:26:42.479 --> 1:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the democrats agenda. Most people listen to the show know

1:26:45.040 --> 1:26:47.519
<v Speaker 1>that because I go over daily stuff I don't talk

1:26:47.640 --> 1:26:51.759
<v Speaker 1>probably enough about is socialism. It's chapter four, the history

1:26:51.800 --> 1:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>of Failure. I talked a lot about Russia, collusion, the

1:26:56.320 --> 1:27:01.080
<v Speaker 1>attempted you know, coup there and the impeachment, axaster and

1:27:01.280 --> 1:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>duplicity and hypocrisy and the mob and the media. I

1:27:04.640 --> 1:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about them, and you know, this assault on all

1:27:08.200 --> 1:27:11.479
<v Speaker 1>things that are freedom and then nobody really has the

1:27:11.560 --> 1:27:15.439
<v Speaker 1>comprehensive list of all the accomplishments of this president. And

1:27:15.560 --> 1:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>then I go into the whole coronavirus thing. I edited

1:27:17.920 --> 1:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>that chapter late in the game because I wanted to

1:27:20.080 --> 1:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>keep it as current as possible. And I'll tell you

1:27:21.840 --> 1:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>this that as I look at this landscape, I am

1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:29.839
<v Speaker 1>I am not afraid to say that I am really

1:27:30.000 --> 1:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>concerned more than I've ever been in my life about

1:27:34.160 --> 1:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>what this country will look like. You know, you want

1:27:37.080 --> 1:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed universal basic income through a majority of Americans now

1:27:42.920 --> 1:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>on to elect socialist office. Do you really believe in

1:27:45.960 --> 1:27:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the New Green Deal? Do you really agree with the

1:27:49.520 --> 1:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Northams of the world. First of all, have the baby

1:27:52.200 --> 1:27:55.400
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah, make sure the baby's comfortable, then decide

1:27:56.600 --> 1:28:00.680
<v Speaker 1>open borders, sanctuary cities. Do you believe in the lawlessness?

1:28:00.760 --> 1:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in anarchists? Do you believe that you'd

1:28:03.760 --> 1:28:06.360
<v Speaker 1>ever see cops pelted eight hundred of them hurt so far,

1:28:06.600 --> 1:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>bottles and bricks and rocks and molotov cocktails, and they

1:28:11.400 --> 1:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>do nothing, They absolutely do nothing right. And the thing

1:28:15.160 --> 1:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that you're talking about here is about the thing that

1:28:18.840 --> 1:28:22.519
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about here is as that, um, you know,

1:28:22.640 --> 1:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you have a situation where people are no longer looking

1:28:26.120 --> 1:28:27.519
<v Speaker 1>at each other's human beings. You know, I was in

1:28:27.600 --> 1:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>church yesterday and my pastor made a very interesting part

1:28:31.280 --> 1:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>of his sermon, which he dedicated to you know. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want everybody look around the church. And we're having

1:28:35.560 --> 1:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>all of our services outside because of COVID, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want everybody look around the church right now, and

1:28:40.920 --> 1:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I want you to understand that a lot of you

1:28:42.680 --> 1:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>are going to do things irritate each other. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like this one or this one watches this channel

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<v Speaker 1>and this one, by the way, is he talking directly

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<v Speaker 1>to you? Because everything I do irritation. He's like, irritate

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in my life. Unbelievable. He's great. But he made

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting point, which is like he's like, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>love the rioters. Got to love the protesters because they're

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<v Speaker 1>children of God and they know not what they do

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<v Speaker 1>at this moment, and you need to love them and

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<v Speaker 1>forgive them because that's what God is doing for all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. And I was like, hmmm, because you know Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>when I drove into the city, you know, I had

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<v Speaker 1>a protester all week. My car's been getting jumped on,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been getting pelled. I had a guy spit in

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<v Speaker 1>my face on Friday, and call me all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting names, you know, And you know we're living this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not just what you see on TV. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're living it every day. And it's very, very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. And I think that a book like

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<v Speaker 1>Live Free or Die it's so poignant right now because

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<v Speaker 1>we are literally exercising our freedoms and those that wish

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<v Speaker 1>to be tolerated are not tolerant of anything. You know. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're much younger than me. Okay, let me let

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<v Speaker 1>me be honest here. Thirty one years I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>this in Radio twenty five of Fox, and I've been

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<v Speaker 1>blessed beyond anything I ever deserve, trust me, And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that I'm reminded of it daily. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that it's it's what I look at. You

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<v Speaker 1>lend the only sense videos a Liam her Son, and

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<v Speaker 1>I look at that that kid is full of life.

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<v Speaker 1>That cracks me up. This kid, like a lot of kids,

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<v Speaker 1>I think kids are amazing. And I look at this

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, this is not that country is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to exist. This country as we know it, the

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<v Speaker 1>one I grew up and is not going to exist.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing that we're talking about this Father's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Nisable right. If you're you literally have to live free

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<v Speaker 1>or die, because if we do not save this country

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<v Speaker 1>for our children, which is why we do everything we do,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to be in big trouble. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and forty one days from now today. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>loaded up the latest news information. Oh we can protest,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not socially distant, but don't have a rally party

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<v Speaker 1>in the fake news. We'll get to that. Also, we

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<v Speaker 1>will have full analysis of the shooting in Atlanta or

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<v Speaker 1>Rayshard Brooks and what went on in that particular situation,

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<v Speaker 1>the chaos, the mayhem and the anarchy on autonomous zones

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<v Speaker 1>and the summer of free love. We'll update you there

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<v Speaker 1>so you DVR ninet Eastern Hannah, Fox News. We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you tonight at night. I'm back here tomorrow. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>being will us