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Speaker 1: thank you eight hundred and nine four one. Sean, you

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. You know,

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Speaker 1: I said this the other night, ending the program on

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Speaker 1: troubled again. I've been saying that a lot instead of

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Speaker 1: gotta tell you it's troubled. I just know. I am like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what is happening to this country? If you love America

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Speaker 1: and you're watching all this and you think of all

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Speaker 1: that we've been through. It's only June fifteenth, but we

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Speaker 1: have one hundred and forty one days we have I

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Speaker 1: think the single biggest, most important pivotal you know, the

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Speaker 1: future of America on the line election. And look at

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Speaker 1: what we've been through just from January straight on through

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Speaker 1: you learn from things. You see some good things, you

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Speaker 1: of a nation. Then of course leading to rioting, looting, arson,

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Speaker 1: And those that want to march for the right reasons,

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Speaker 1: I'm not bundling them in with the anarchists. But then

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Speaker 1: Then we go to Seattle and the Autonomous Zone or

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Speaker 1: The fact that there are some bad cops, but it's

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Speaker 1: we're endowed by our creator with rights, not with government

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Speaker 1: And then you look at you know, well, okay, we

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Speaker 1: that particular case, and on the heels obviously of George Floyd.

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Speaker 1: The timing couldn't be worse because it's such a highly

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Speaker 1: charged atmosphere in the country right now in a lot

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Speaker 1: of different ways, and the ensuing violence and now anarchy

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Speaker 1: in some places that has taken over, and so a

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Speaker 1: lot of it's going to if you want the law

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Speaker 1: on this, a lot of it is going to come

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Speaker 1: down to say that. My first thought is is it's

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Speaker 1: so sad and tragic. I don't know. You know. Number one,

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Speaker 1: you can't drive drunk on the age of uber in

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Speaker 1: my view, you have a drink too. I think two

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Speaker 1: drinks is usually the limit from my but don't take

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Speaker 1: my word for it. You know, you know, buy one

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Speaker 1: of those those breathalyzers yourself. You can buy them. And

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Speaker 1: you can't resist, and you can't fight, and you can't

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Speaker 1: steal a weapon. Then you can't turn around and fire

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Speaker 1: a weapon, even if it's a taser. So I walk

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Speaker 1: away with a number of things without rushing to judgment

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Speaker 1: because I think everybody deserves the presumption of innocence and

444
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Speaker 1: the tech. What the written law here is will play

445
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: a big factor in what we're viewing, and so many

446
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Speaker 1: other people want to rush to judgment on them, regardless

447
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Speaker 1: of what it's going to be defined. As you know,

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Speaker 1: the first question I have is, Okay, if you shoot

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Speaker 1: the taser once, is that does it have one shot

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Speaker 1: or two? Because I think there are two versions of that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know in this particular case, I've not been

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Speaker 1: able to get a definitive answer. I've gotten mixed answers

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Speaker 1: on that. A couple of things that come to mind,

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Speaker 1: and I know the President I think this week, according

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Speaker 1: to reports all over, that he's going to come out

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Speaker 1: with certain reforms. I think one of them has to

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Speaker 1: be only if it's imminent danger on a chokehold, because

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Speaker 1: that's the most sensitive part of the human anatomy. I

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Speaker 1: can agree with that. But if a CoP's life is

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Speaker 1: in danger, all bets have to be off. If he

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Speaker 1: thinks there's a physical confrontation and that's the only way

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Speaker 1: that he can he can stop somebody from maybe killing

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Speaker 1: him or her, that has to be an understanding of

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Speaker 1: the difficulty of that job. I think again we get

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Speaker 1: back to we need more training for these officers, and

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Speaker 1: I go back to a third point that I've been

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Speaker 1: making other non lethal options available to the police. I

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Speaker 1: am not a big fan of that taser. Number one,

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Speaker 1: you have to be a close range. You got it,

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Speaker 1: You got the stupid wires that come flying out behind it.

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Speaker 1: And now you're you're going for either the taser, the

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Speaker 1: taser gets taken, now you only have one option, or

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Speaker 1: if you shoot the taser and you miss, you only

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Speaker 1: have one option. And I discussed in detail, you know,

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Speaker 1: some of the some of the great new technology that's

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Speaker 1: coming on market that I think will be ultimately an

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Speaker 1: assist for police officers non lethal options that they will

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Speaker 1: have now in terms of the neck, I think we

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Speaker 1: all agree. In terms of training, I think we all agree,

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Speaker 1: you know, add to the tools that the police have

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Speaker 1: for non lethal force, I think that's critical. I think

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Speaker 1: the public has a role to play here, and that

483
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Speaker 1: is that the public has got to understand and there's

484
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Speaker 1: got to be more communication, better communication with every community.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's it's upsetting that it seems like everyone

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Speaker 1: wants to just say, ninety nine percent of cops are horrible,

487
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Speaker 1: and that's just not true. And I'll tell you other

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Speaker 1: things that are going to happen. I heard Congressman Clyburn

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Speaker 1: saying I fear the police now more than during segregation.

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Speaker 1: M seventy nine percent of truckers say that they're not

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Speaker 1: going to deliver the cities the defund police department. Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: cops are resigning now in droves, you know, with this

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Speaker 1: defunding effort. Now, the defunding effort is going nationwide. Seattle

494
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Speaker 1: Mayer is just allowing the anarchists to take over with

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Speaker 1: our summer of love and anarchy and you know, the

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Speaker 1: autonomous zones and whatever you want to call it. She's like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, and the zone is a safe space for

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Speaker 1: spaghetti potlucks. A movie predicting a summer of love. I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: this woman is clueless out there. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: she's thinking. He had an entire Florida city swat team

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Speaker 1: in Hollandale Beach. They resigned because the police chief there

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Speaker 1: kneeled with the protesters. Has been almost universal condemnation of

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Speaker 1: all cops. Well, you found the police, who are you

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Speaker 1: going to call? I always go back to that one

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Speaker 1: question and if we surrender to the anarchists, what everyone knows,

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Speaker 1: there's no private property, everything's free, and they get to

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Speaker 1: build a wall and keep police out and take over

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Speaker 1: their precinct. That's not going to end well in my view.

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Speaker 1: And you know, did Minneapolis police what's happening in Seattle?

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Speaker 1: The President's asking to help, they refuse any help whatsoever

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Speaker 1: to restore law and order. If we don't have law

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Speaker 1: and order, then what happens from there? Nothing good is

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Speaker 1: going to come out of that. And you know it

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Speaker 1: just I'm glad they had the body cam, but you know,

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Speaker 1: how is it that we're just willing to throw an

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Speaker 1: entire group of people that risk their lives for not

517
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Speaker 1: a lot of money down the stairs and we have

518
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Speaker 1: absolutely no room whatsoever for Let's wait for all the

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00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: facts to come in. Let's look at the law. It's

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Speaker 1: this is a very scary time for this country, and

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Speaker 1: I really worry about where this is all headed. For

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Speaker 1: everybody's sake, we're one country, we're one people. We've got

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Speaker 1: to get along. We'll continue, all right, Welcome back our

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Speaker 1: tow Sean Hannity's show, Glad you with us eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety four one Sean, if you want to be

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Speaker 1: a part of the program, all right, let me play

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Speaker 1: for all of you. Is this is what happened in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta over the weekend. Ray Schard Brooks's initial counter with

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Speaker 1: the police, him being padded down by the police, him

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Speaker 1: taking a breathalyzer. Up to the moment, I hear nothing

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Speaker 1: but respect on both sides, up until the moment they

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Speaker 1: began to cuff him, having obviously been above the driving

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Speaker 1: limit for alcohol. And when things went bad, but got

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Speaker 1: to give you a listener warning. It's it's hard to hear.

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Speaker 1: So the reason why we're here is because somebody called

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Speaker 1: nine one one because you were asleep behind the wheel

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Speaker 1: while you're in the driving through. Right do you call that?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. You don't recall that. You don't

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Speaker 1: recall just minutes ago where you were passed out behind

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Speaker 1: the wheel in the drive through. You don't recall that

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Speaker 1: at all. Absolutely just complete blur. I wasn't driving, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I just dame my girlfriend. She probably with sleeping.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, I said, baby, I want freaked fry.

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Speaker 1: So bars, I'm aware you're the only person that's been

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Speaker 1: seen in this vehicle. Run Yeah, you've been in the

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Speaker 1: driver's seat the whole time. So how did the car

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Speaker 1: get into the drive through with you behind the wheel?

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Speaker 1: She drove here, I said, babe, I'm drinking in a

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Speaker 1: black car in the black bottle ball and you got

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Speaker 1: into your car. I said, hey, you know what, no problem,

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Speaker 1: I'll just meet you in the hotel. I don't have anything,

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00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: or is okay if I bat you down? Just makes

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00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: if you I have just money gas? Is it okay

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00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: if I pat you down to make you do any weapon?

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00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely face away for a real quick. What is this?

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Speaker 1: There's just a bunch of money in your body? That's

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Speaker 1: some more WI What's what's all this money? How much

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00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: money do you have in your party? I mean, baby's

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Speaker 1: n okay, like a bunch of ones and stuff? Here

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Speaker 1: for absolutely welcome here. I do remember you can see

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Speaker 1: the side right, howl. I just came to get something big.

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00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: You might just put your phone on the trunk of

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Speaker 1: your cart. You have any your hand, will you take

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Speaker 1: it for la best test for me? Yes or no?

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00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to refuse any pay it's yes or no.

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Speaker 1: It's completely got to you. Yes, well okay, just wait

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Speaker 1: here while I go out oh man, So make sure, man,

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Speaker 1: you're staying to drive. That's all I know, man, I

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Speaker 1: just you you scared me a little bit because you

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Speaker 1: were sleeping in there, So that's you know why I

571
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: was making sure you're okay, you know, And that's I know.

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Speaker 1: I know you did. Still your draw just take a

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Speaker 1: deeper at then you're out throw them out piece. But

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Speaker 1: it's hard. You can't tell tell you stop. Blah blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Stop. Very good,

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Speaker 1: I said, a few jerks, I said, how many? One

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Speaker 1: and half? Like I said, I was into the second cup.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even I told her, baby, let's go because

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Speaker 1: I'm hungry. I what kind of drinks did you have?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's something cheet harder, she said, Top

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Speaker 1: show for whatever, top shop what I'm not shooting, all right,

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Speaker 1: I really don't. I think you've had too much to

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Speaker 1: drink to be driving Put Chance waking back to win

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Speaker 1: put chance money. But he stop, fun funny stop funny

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Speaker 1: stop fun you get you're gonna get time with the

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Speaker 1: right with my sticky drink. The thing that just stands

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Speaker 1: out in this this entire exchange, and I watched it

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00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: so many times, like so many of you have. Here

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00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: is from the first moment of the encounter, um all

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Speaker 1: the way up to the moment the two officers tried

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Speaker 1: to put handcuffs on Ray Shard Brooks. It was professional,

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00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: it was there was respect on all sides, everything that

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Speaker 1: you think you'd want to hear in terms of an

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Speaker 1: exchange with a police officer and a citizen, and then

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Speaker 1: all hell break slows, which you just heard. Also here

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00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: to help sort through all of this, we have former

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00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: Commissioner of the New York Police Department, Bernie Carrick, author

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Speaker 1: of The Grave Above the Grave. Remember he was the

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00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: NYPD Commissioner during nine to eleven September eleven, two thousand

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Speaker 1: and one, and former Lieutenant commander of the NYPD counter

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Speaker 1: Terrorism Unit. Sergeant Dmitrick Penny is with US, twenty year

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Speaker 1: Vet Dallas Police and president of the Dallas, Texas National

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Speaker 1: Falling Officer Foundation, U as a congressional candidate now in

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Speaker 1: Texas District thirty. Thank you both for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with you, Sergeant Is I mean that

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Speaker 1: up to that moment, did you see anything wrong on

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Speaker 1: either side? Be it Ray shot Brooks or the police

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Speaker 1: up to the moment when they began to cuff him

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Speaker 1: no vision. First of all, I think it's so much

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Speaker 1: to have me on Hannity, But yeah, I saw this thing.

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Speaker 1: I watched this video over and over again to try

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Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, what went wrong, And the

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00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: bottom line is, these officers did everything right when you

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00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: got to that to that confrontation where the individuals start

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Speaker 1: fighting with the officer, and when he took took that

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Speaker 1: officers taser, the circumstances changed. This is not we were

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Speaker 1: just talking a couple of days ago about George Floyd.

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Speaker 1: This is not that, and the community need to completely

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Speaker 1: understand this is not that. This that individual he created

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Speaker 1: the deadly force and corner when that tayser was taken

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Speaker 1: from that officer and we turned back around and pointed

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Speaker 1: it at him, I think that tells a story in itself.

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Speaker 1: You know. So I completely disagree with what the position

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Speaker 1: that the mirror took on termulating that officer. I think

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00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: that we, you know, they need to go back and

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00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: look at this whole use of force situation to determine

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Speaker 1: whether or not that force was reasonable and what on that.

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Speaker 1: I have the exact language of what a suspected felony

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Speaker 1: would be. And I'll get to that in a minute here.

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Speaker 1: So we have the confrontation. You can hear the cops,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think they were. I think we're all

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Speaker 1: taken off guard just watching it. Um. But when you

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Speaker 1: you know, you hear them, you know, stop fighting, stop fighting. UM,

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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get taste. You're gonna get taste.

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Speaker 1: You know, stop fighting. Then you hear that he's taking

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Speaker 1: the taser. UM a slight scuffle. For my perception, I

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Speaker 1: saw the two cops hit by mister Brooks twice. He's

638
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: he runs off with the taser. As he's running, he

639
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: turns around and seems to fire it. One question I have,

640
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: do you have one or two shots in that taser?

641
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: Because I thought it was only one? Yeah, typically only

642
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: one shot you got you got the one. I'm not

643
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest fan of it. It's an option,

644
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: but I think there's got to be other options that

645
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: we give police down the road as we now are reevaluating,

646
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, other non lethal UM tools and a police

647
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: officers just arsenal if you will in moments like this,

648
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: non lethal meaning it will be effective, but it will

649
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: also save more lives. Do you, based on the video

650
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: that you see, do you think the shooting was justified.

651
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: I hate to really get get into the mindset of

652
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: the oficer, but I'm gonna tell you if if it's

653
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: me and I'm in the field and this situation is

654
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: happening in real time, and you gotta think these these

655
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: are split second situation. I'm thinking about the way I've

656
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: experienced it where I've we've had officers to die in

657
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: the line of duty because they've missed guns, they've missed weapon. Okay,

658
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: when that officer when that when when when mister Brooks

659
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: took off and turned around with that weapon. In that

660
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: officer's mind, I'm seeing the same thing I'm seeing gun.

661
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm seeing weapons, and I'm thinking pull your weapon in fire. Now,

662
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: I've heard all these arguments about why he just didn't

663
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: shoot him in the leg. You know, why did he

664
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: why did he have you know, why didn't he shoot

665
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: him with There's no training that says to shoot for

666
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: the lake, of course, not absolutely not no. In fact,

667
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: we trained the shooting a match. Yeah, of course you're

668
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: shooting to stop the threat. You're not shooting that to

669
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: execute or kill a person you're shooting to stop the threat.

670
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: And that's what this convolution of of of the media

671
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: is kind of planning in a certain way to make

672
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: it appear that there's this there's this major problem within

673
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: law enforcement where law enforce was just killing black people. Well,

674
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: first of all, let's talk about community interaction with law enforcement.

675
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 1: We just start gearing people up with I talk about

676
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: training all the time. It's not just the officers being

677
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: trained on how to use force. It's on individuals. It's

678
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: if it's a community understanding how force can be used.

679
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: You have to understand it what predicament you can and

680
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: cannot be aggressive with an officer in no situation should

681
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: be aggressive with acer. But this, this was this was

682
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: like I said, this was not a George Floyd's situation.

683
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: This guy here, he put himself in harm's way by

684
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: his acts worth all the sad tragedy. Again, in the

685
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: moment Bernie Carroll leading up to this, I saw the

686
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: interaction between the officer and with Ray Schard Brooks. I

687
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: thought the officers were professional. It was one moment where

688
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: the first cop that had asked him, you know, to

689
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: park in the in the parking spot and get out

690
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: of the lane. The drive through lane couldn't be more compassionate.

691
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a real conversation between two human

692
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: beings at that point. They were listening, and they were

693
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: they were courteous, they were professional, um, and they were

694
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: just there's nothing more they could have done. Um. They

695
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: followed the policy by the book. Um. You know, the

696
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: confrontation itself. I got to admit when I saw the

697
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: when I saw the the body camp footage, I was

698
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: a bit surprised at how you know, the courteous both

699
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: sides were, um. And he even said, Brooks even said,

700
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: I know you got a factor of you being from

701
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: New York and this being the genteel South. But but

702
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: but he's you know, he even says to the officer,

703
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, I know, you're just doing your job. Um.

704
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: But the second they went to handcuff him, it changed.

705
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: Then there was the assault, the attack, the you know,

706
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: the seizure of the weapon. But but I want to

707
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: I want to comment something that the sergeant said. And look,

708
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: you know he comes out of Dallas PD. It's one

709
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: of the best departments in the country. Um, you know,

710
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: great cops. It's it's a rough town to work in

711
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: and many, you know, and they've lost a bunch of

712
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: cops in the line of duty. I remember my son

713
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: was at one of the last funerals. Um there's a

714
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: point that he made about the community and what the

715
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: community has to do. And here's my problem with what's

716
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: going on today shown and it refers to exactly what

717
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: he said. Why aren't the mayors and why aren't the

718
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 1: governors in towns around the country today telling the communities

719
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: you cannot attack the police and assault the police. It's

720
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: against the law. You cannot resist arrest, you cannot obstruct

721
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: or interfere with an arresting officer. You can't run from

722
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: the police, you can't hit him with your car, you

723
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: can't disarm them. Why aren't they denouncing this action? The

724
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: mayor fired this guy, threw him under the bus, crucified

725
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: him in the court of public opinion without even a hearing.

726
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: And you know what, that villainizes the cops, victimizes the thugs,

727
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: when in fact they should be telling if you're going

728
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: to scream and yell about reforms with policing, well you

729
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: better be screaming and yelling at the communities where this

730
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: stuff is happening, and they are completely annihilating the cops.

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Speaker 1: All right, as we continue, Former Commissioner of the New

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Speaker 1: York Police Department, Bernie Carrick also with us. Sergeant Demitrich

733
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Speaker 1: Penny is with us out of Dallas. You know, if

734
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: you look at the encounter, I mean, the stories changed

735
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Now. I think it took a lot

736
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: to wake him up. When it was obviously his car

737
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: was in the drive through lane. He seemed a little disoriented,

738
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: um seemed to get more oriented as the encounter went on,

739
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: you know, changed the story a little bit. In the beginning,

740
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: he sounded confused and kind of out of it, and

741
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: then he was specific about I only had a drink.

742
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: Then it was a drink and a half of margharita. No,

743
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: it was top shelf. I don't know what kind of

744
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: drink I had. I mean, it really took me by surprise,

745
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, watching it, it was like what you would

746
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 1: expect in an encounter where there's respect on both sides,

747
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: just up until that moment and I get these I look,

748
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: I believe those cops were probably shock that happened. Sergeant.

749
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: I mean that what they called me of guard just

750
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: watching it, I mean, because that's not normal behavior. But

751
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: but we do know that this individual was intoxicated at

752
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: the time. I mean, I think we you know, we

753
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: you lose a little bit of the rationale. We're dealing

754
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: with that. And I was fine up too, you know.

755
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: I mean it was almost like he was agreeing to

756
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: to you know, he knew he had done wrong. The

757
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: officer had to had to take in the jail. But

758
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: the fight, the fight is where the circumstances changed. Like

759
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: I said, we were lost entirely. Too many officers, and

760
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: officers are they're trying to do the best that they're can.

761
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we're faced with we're faced with, you know,

762
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: dealing with the legal challenges on one side, and then

763
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: you're dealing with the lawlessness on the other side. And

764
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: now you have, you know, political leaders saying that we

765
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: want to defund the police. It's it's hard enough as

766
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: it is for law enforces to do that job. The

767
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: average response time for an officer to even show up

768
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: at a call to a priority call is three to

769
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 1: five minutes. When right now it's taking these it's taking

770
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: officers because they don't have enough officers to be there.

771
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: Now it's taking up between ten and thirteen minutes. We

772
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: know that there's a problem, there's a problem, but these

773
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: problems are created by what's happened, these these social issues

774
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: that are happening in the community, and our political leaders

775
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: are not pushed and back on. They're not saying, hey,

776
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: we need law and order in our community. We need

777
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: our police officers to be protected. Nobody's gonna want to

778
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: enter this profession if they think, in a snap of

779
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: a down that they're going to be prosecuted for following

780
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: their own training. Gotta I gotta take a break here

781
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: at Sergeant Dimitric Penny with the Dallas Police Force, president

782
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: of Dallas, Texas Falling Officer Association, now a congressional candidate

783
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: in the thirtieth district. Former NYPD Commissioner Bernie Kerrigg eight

784
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: hundred and nine four one Sean. I'll also talk about

785
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: all the chaos that has been going on out in

786
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: Seattle Minneapolis to fund the police. We've got a lot

787
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: more ground to cover with both of them. We'll continue.

788
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: How long do you think Seattle in those few blocks

789
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: looks like this, I don't know. We could have a

790
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: summer of love. Well tell that to the police who

791
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: was supposed to be in that precinct though, But I

792
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: understand your sentiment. Mayor. We don't have to sacrifice public

793
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: safety for First Amendment rights. Both can exist and we'll

794
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: make sure that both the assistant Seattle, oh is it?

795
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: And Jimmie, every time I just try to have a

796
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: normal conversation with you just goes right to insts. Is

797
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: that against the law? Is again against the law to

798
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: insult a man in blue at a normal conversation. Uh,

799
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: you guys get called the time, and you get and

800
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: you take down the blacks and you get video. Have

801
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: a good day, Jamie. I want him arrested for physical assault.

802
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: All right. That was a videotape on viral on Twitter

803
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: where cops was very nicely dealing with somebody and the

804
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: person just starts screaming the saying could please be nice? Um,

805
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: and then they just turn around and walked away. We're

806
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: now seeing now a lot of police around the country

807
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: are just saying, you know what, this isn't worth it anymore.

808
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: We're not going to do this job. And they're leaving

809
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: in droves, and you know, you see now it's gotten

810
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: in the world of politics and Clyburn, I feel the

811
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: police now more than during segregation, truck drivers are saying

812
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: they won't deliver the cities with defunded police departments. They

813
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: don't think it's safe. The defund effort gets bigger and

814
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. The Seattle Mayer's saying that this autonomous zone,

815
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: the summer of love zone, the safe space for spaghetti,

816
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: pot lux and movies for the summer of love, is

817
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: just madness. You see what's been happening all around the

818
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: country in every way shape Maunter inform. And you see

819
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 1: now police precincts being burned to the ground and others

820
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: being taken over completely. You don't see any efforts to

821
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: even stop it in any way. You have an entire

822
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: Florida city swat team that resigned after the police chief

823
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: was kneeling with the protesters. That will remain on the

824
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: police force. But they've left the swat team out in

825
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: Hollandale Beach. So no thanks, we don't need this now.

826
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: One Democratic Al Green is now calling for believe it

827
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: was him, Yeah, it was him, calling for the creation

828
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: of a Department of Reconciliation. Okay, I don't know what

829
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: that means, because if you surrender to anarchy, and they're

830
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: able to take over city blocks and police precincts that

831
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: nothing has done to stop it. Who are you going

832
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: to call when something happens? I mean, this is the

833
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: madness of all of this. Congresswoman Omar defending the call

834
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: to dismantle the Minneapolis police. Now again she now also,

835
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's unbelievable. It's just getting from bad

836
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: to worse here. And you see anarchy now reigning and

837
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: this is now the I guess you know, now a

838
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: big issue in the campaign. And what is this growing divide?

839
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: How does it all end in the end here? Anyway,

840
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: we continue with former MYPD Commissioner Bernie Kerry and also

841
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: he's the author of the Grave Above the Grave. He

842
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: was the commissioner in New York's Police Police Department nine

843
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,439
Speaker 1: eleven one. As we all know, Sergeant Dimitric Penny, twenty

844
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: one year vet Dallas Police also now a congressional candidate

845
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: Texas Congressional District number thirty. Let me go back to

846
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: what's going on in Minneapolis. The Stevefund, the police effort,

847
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: the anarchists or the Free Love Zone CHAZ as they

848
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Speaker 1: call it, utopia as they call it. Now take it

849
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Speaker 1: over city blocks. And by the way, on top of it,

850
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Speaker 1: Bernie Carrick, we have over eight hundred officers now that

851
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: have been hurt, a number of them now killed, a

852
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: number of them permanently injured, one paralyzed in Vegas, and

853
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, rocks and bottles and bricks and molotov cocktails,

854
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Speaker 1: and seeing no desire for the president who's begging these

855
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Speaker 1: cities to restore order, they don't. They refuse to take it. Um.

856
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: They put the entire from my perspective, they put the

857
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Speaker 1: entire city of their cities at risk. Here. Plus, Sean,

858
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Speaker 1: you have, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars in

859
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Speaker 1: devastation damage as a result of the arts and in looting.

860
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Speaker 1: You've got about twenty people that were innocence of ians

861
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Speaker 1: that were shot and killed throughout this. Nobody's nobody's marching

862
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: on their behalf. But I want to bring up a point, Sean,

863
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Speaker 1: that I think is lost in the mix here. Most

864
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Speaker 1: of these cities, every one of the cities you just mentioned,

865
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Speaker 1: and most of the cities around the country where you

866
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Speaker 1: have the highest violent crime rate and the highest murder rate,

867
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Speaker 1: they're all run by democrats. They're run by democrats that

868
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Speaker 1: have there. They're far left leaning. Uh, you know, radicals

869
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Speaker 1: in many cases who basically wanted minished and abolish policing

870
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: in general. And I think the lesson people had they

871
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: should focus on that. They should look at New York City.

872
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety four, when we averaged about twenty two

873
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 1: hundred murders per year, we were the capital of homicide

874
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 1: of murder in the United States of America, and over

875
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Speaker 1: an eight year period under Giuliani, that number dropped by

876
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Speaker 1: sixty three, by seventy percent, the murdered number dropped by seventies,

877
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Speaker 1: violent crime by sixty three, and in the black communities

878
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: in New York City that number dropped. Murder dropped by

879
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: close to eighty percent. Thousands of black lives were saved

880
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: as a result of basically enforcing law in order. We

881
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: didn't have these problems with riots and all this other

882
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: stuff we had had. We had issues within the police

883
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: department that we had to deal with, but at the

884
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: end of the day, we had a leader, we had

885
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: a mayor that enforced the law, dealt with the communities.

886
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: I didn't have any problems As the police commissioner. I

887
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: had fifty five thousand people working for me. I had

888
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: no problems in the black community, so we had great relationships.

889
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: It can be done, but today it's not being done.

890
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: And in every one of those cities where black lives

891
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: are being slaughtered at by numbers that compare with a

892
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: war zone, like Chicago and Saint Louis and Baltimore, they're

893
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: role run by Democrats. And I think that's something that

894
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: has to be looked at. Okay, and your take, sergeant, Yes,

895
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: just look, I want to play up on a commissioners position.

896
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Speaker 1: In fact, they're all four on the four hundred and

897
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Speaker 1: thirty five US House seats. This is why I'm running

898
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: those four hundred and thirty five House seats. Twenty eight

899
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Speaker 1: percent of them a majority minority districts. All of them

900
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: are run by Democrats. No Republicans in no seats. Now,

901
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: what we've done on the last every over the last

902
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: fifty years, the failed social economic policies have led to

903
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: the failures in these communities. Now, I come from the

904
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: inner city. I come from I came from a community

905
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: where police just didn't come in because of the level

906
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: of crime. We didn't want them there. But we were

907
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: being victimized at a higher rate than anywhere else in

908
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: the country. And I say, everyone's an advocate until they

909
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: become a victim. I said this last time, everyone's an

910
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: advocate until they come a victim. When I had to

911
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: witness my own cousin get killed in front of me,

912
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: but for me to say, man, I got to get

913
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: out of here like that had to wake something, had

914
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: to wake me up. And and what's happening is you

915
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: got a lot of people that aren't from these communities

916
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: that are that are that are caring the guard letter

917
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: and saying that we want the police out, we want

918
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: them out. Well, guess what who's want of police these communities.

919
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: Once you get them out, you get rid of the police,

920
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: then nobody's going all the people are gonna do. They're

921
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: gonna be subjected to more and more boling crime and

922
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: the boding crime rate regardless of what we do, because

923
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: we can't get people the goverment to come into this profession,

924
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: the viol and crown raids still going up across the country. Now,

925
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: on another note, I would like to also talk about

926
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: our law enforcement officers. Okay, everyone wants to. We want

927
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: to bring up the First Amendment right to protest and

928
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: with and then first, amenber right, the protests should be

929
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: protected by the first amendber of rights. We're all against that,

930
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean all we're all support we all support that,

931
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: But by that same token, we have to start talking

932
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: about these officers for a teenth Amendment right to fair

933
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: and equal protections under the law, because they're not just

934
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: going out there to be attacked, to be attacked and

935
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: be and be murdered, and and and and be little

936
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Speaker 1: by individuals that don't want to follow the law. We

937
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,479
Speaker 1: gotta start getting back to the conversation and talking about

938
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: where does the letter of the law mean anything, the

939
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: rule of the law, what does it mean anything. That's

940
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: how a miracle became a great the great democracy that

941
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: it was, was our law. And we have to get

942
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: back to business and start talking about how we're going

943
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: to take people. And that's why I'm running. So what

944
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: do you do now when you got a mayor and

945
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: you got a governor that are allowing anarchists to take

946
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Speaker 1: over city blocks and city precincts, which I never thought

947
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: would happen in my lifetime, Bernie Kerrick, And they reject,

948
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: steadfastly reject the president's daily offer for help and assistance

949
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: to restore order, which, by the way, as long as

950
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Speaker 1: they're not in there killing each other, I don't think

951
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: the President should be getting involved that. If that's how

952
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: they want to run their state, If that's how they

953
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: want to run their cities and allow anarchists to do

954
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: what they're doing out there, unless and until it becomes

955
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: totally untenable, that's their responsibility. They say no, well, president

956
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: offers help. No, Chicago, Illinois, president offers help. No. New

957
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: York same thing. No. You listen, and I want to

958
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: remind people those numbers I gave you in New York City.

959
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: That was during Giuliani's term. After Giuliani, Mayor Bloomberg came

960
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: in for twelve years. For twelve years, so for twenty

961
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: years straight, every single year there was violent crime reduced

962
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: murder in New York City. We had the most substantial

963
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: reductions in US history ever. And the only time, the

964
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Speaker 1: only time in twenty years after that twenty year period,

965
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Speaker 1: the only time it started to spike was under a Democrat,

966
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: under Mayor n Blasio. Then it started to change, and

967
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks it spiked dramatically. And you

968
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: have a mayor that basically told his cops, in his words,

969
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: you're going to use a light touch in dealing with

970
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: these thugs and rioters and arsonists and anarchists. And they

971
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: burned Fifth Avenue, they burned Madison Avenue, soho the Diamond Exchange.

972
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: And you had a governor sitting in Albany saying, oh, yeah,

973
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: I'm not happy with the cops. I'm not happy with

974
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: the police. They didn't do their job. The mayor didn't

975
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: do his job. Really well, what is your job? You've

976
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: run the state of New York. Where are you? Why

977
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: weren't you there? What are you doing? And you know

978
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: what for any of these any of these executives, any

979
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: of these mayors or governors in any state that refuses

980
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: help from the President with regard to the National Guard

981
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: in rescoring law and order, they have a constitutional obligation

982
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: to their citizens, and they're refusing for political reasons because

983
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: they know the president's right, and they also know the

984
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: President's not going to stand for it. And if they

985
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: can't do their job, and he has to the job

986
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: will get done. So what do they do They refuse?

987
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: That's the refuse. Yeah, I gotta tell you, I'm gonna

988
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: have to let you both go. But former Commissioner m YPD.

989
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: Bernie Karen, Sergeant Dmitrich Penny. By the way, he's running

990
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: for Congress Texas c D thirty Congressional District thirty. Thank

991
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: you both. Eight hundred and ninety four one. Sean, you

992
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program, right, Jim

993
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: is in Texas. Jim, You're next on the Sean Hannity Show.

994
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm good, sir. How are you today?

995
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm good, sir. Glad you called excellent. Sir. I'll get

996
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: right to my point. In the recent weeks, I've heard

997
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: you speaking a lot about how you feel that what

998
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: happened in the Floyd incident was really just due to

999
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: a lack of training with police officers, and you want

1000
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: more training. And I understand that point, sir, but I

1001
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: couldn't disagree with you more. And the reason is, sir,

1002
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: is Floyd did not die from the chokehold. That was

1003
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Speaker 1: not a lack of training. That was just a lack

1004
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: of moral character. That was just pure evil. In most agencies,

1005
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: the chokehold is already illegal. And if you know anything

1006
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: about training like you say you do, you can see

1007
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: that Floyd was not in a chokehold. He just had

1008
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Speaker 1: a knee on his neck. And I don't remember the

1009
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: last that were killed from a chokehold, and it just

1010
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: drives me crazy. And they when I hear people say

1011
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: we're not trained well enough. I'm a patrol pugent. I've

1012
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: been a police officer for thirteen years, and we get

1013
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: trained beyond belief. We go through de escalation training, we

1014
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: go through a defensive tactics training with martial arts involved

1015
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: in it. Even even now in Texas when you go

1016
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: through the driver's license when you're drivers d when you're

1017
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Speaker 1: a young person, you're trained on how to interact with

1018
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: police officers. Therefore, police officers are trained on what young

1019
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: people are trained to interact with. You know, we have

1020
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: we're trained in de escalation markets and in our my

1021
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: particular area, we even have a unit that goes out

1022
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: with a social worker for suicidal attempts in any kind

1023
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: of mental issue and the other way. I think that's

1024
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: a great idea to get a company police and maybe

1025
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: the experts in that field, because cops can't possibly do

1026
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: all that. Listen, I gotta run, But I know the

1027
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: White House is expected to come out with reforms and

1028
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: this week a lot of them hopefully will include training

1029
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: and will include other people that could show up and

1030
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: maybe help, you know, professionally, those people that might have

1031
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: other issues, problems that they've got to deal with. I'm

1032
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: not against any of that. More training. I'm absolutely more

1033
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: options in terms of non lethal tools available for police officers.

1034
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: Love that idea too, and I've been talking about that extensively.

1035
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: So anyway, I gotta take a break. We'll come back

1036
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: on the other side. By the way, we will get

1037
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: into the issue. What about Okay, the uprisings that are

1038
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: now happening around the country. Is COVID nineteens resurgence a

1039
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: big deal? What about riots in our city streets and

1040
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: now police standing down? Straight ahead right here for our

1041
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: final news round up and information overload and a far

1042
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: more serious scene. Watch. These images are really just an ugly,

1043
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: a dangerous scene at the state Capitol in Michigan as

1044
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: we look at this extreme group of people. Those pictures

1045
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Speaker 1: and those clashes really show the chaos and you're out

1046
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: there with guns. I don't want to call them rallies.

1047
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Speaker 1: They're not protests. These quote unquote protests. I don't even

1048
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: think that that's the right word, because protests are supposed

1049
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: to be peaceful. I'm not embarrassed to say that I

1050
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: was afraid. It's not clear what they're demanding. Demanding to

1051
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Speaker 1: infect other people, demanding to make other people thick. It's dangerous,

1052
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: and these people can take this home with them and

1053
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: hurt their families and all the rest. I'd like to

1054
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Speaker 1: ask them if they're willing to sign away their right

1055
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Speaker 1: to treatment if and when they get infected. Who the

1056
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Speaker 1: hell do you think you are? I don't understand what

1057
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Speaker 1: is wrong with people stay at home. I want to

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Speaker 1: be clear and how I characterize this is mostly a protest.

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Speaker 1: It is not, generally speaking unruly. That ain't a riot

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing right now in Minneapolis. With me, any

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Speaker 1: reasonable person would say we shouldn't be destroying other people's property.

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Speaker 1: But these are not reasonable times. And please show me

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Speaker 1: where it says that protests are supposed to be polite

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Speaker 1: and peaceful. The beautiful thing is we're seeing citizens who

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Speaker 1: are carrying in concerned, they're hitting the streets. Heartwarming to

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Speaker 1: see so many people turn out peacefully. You know, Brook

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Speaker 1: I pick this is a march, really, but as they're

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Speaker 1: coming off, it's peaceful. They're saying peaceful protests across the country.

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Speaker 1: It's bringing people together, community with unity. People are risking

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Speaker 1: COVID to explain to this country that we're fed up news,

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Speaker 1: round up information overload hour on the Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is unbelievable. We're living in the craziest times.

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Speaker 1: We see what happens in Atlanta, you know, we see

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Speaker 1: what is happening in Seattle. We see what's happening to

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Speaker 1: fund the police. We're in the middle of an election

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Speaker 1: season with one hundred and forty one days to go,

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Speaker 1: and it is it's getting scarier by the day. You

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Speaker 1: have to worry about a COVID resurgence in some places.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the numbers that I'm seeing are like

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Speaker 1: quote percentage increases from the day before, three weeks before.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that it was as bad. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I've said from the beginning, it's a matter of when,

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Speaker 1: not a matter of if we get a resurgence. Doctor

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Speaker 1: Rozowey said that as well. We bring back to the

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Speaker 1: program Joe Conscha, commentator opinion calumnist for The Hill, and

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Speaker 1: Mark Simone, host of the Morning Show here in New York.

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Speaker 1: Our flagship in New York, AM seven ten wr Mark Simone,

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Speaker 1: We've begin with you big overall picture, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty one days. The American people, they're the ultimate jury.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to sort through all of this. Your thought, sir, well,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden not the slickest candidate in the world, not

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Speaker 1: the smoothest, talking, fast candidate in the world. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how he defends defund the police. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what possible argument he can make for that. He's backed

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Speaker 1: away from it, but he's still gonna have to answer

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Speaker 1: for that, and allowing six blocks Seattle to be seized

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Speaker 1: and declared a foreign country. He's tied to all of that.

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Speaker 1: These Democrats don't get their party back from the real

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Speaker 1: crazy progressives. They have no shot in November. Not that

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Speaker 1: they do anyway, but this is just making it one

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Speaker 1: of the most impossible miss is mission impossible for Biden?

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Speaker 1: If he ever gets out of the basement, Oh, if

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Speaker 1: he what do you mean? If he ever gets out,

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Speaker 1: He's getting out for like five seconds at a time.

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Speaker 1: My favorite lionel last week, Joe Conchez. Oh, I'm fine

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Speaker 1: with him. In the basement, he sees two people a day.

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Speaker 1: The two body men that said he sees two people

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Speaker 1: a day. I was a Democratic caucus caucus. No you haven't.

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Speaker 1: You're a line, dog faced pony soldier, you said you are.

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Speaker 1: But I'm nominated Democrat, a lifelong Democrat, a proud Democrat.

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Speaker 1: Biden vomba Democrat. Because we cannot get reelected. We cannot

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Speaker 1: win this reelection. Excuse me. We can only re elect

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I hope you'll all join us together. I

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Speaker 1: think we can win back the House. We're going to

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Speaker 1: keep the house. Increase it and flip the sentence. It's

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Speaker 1: a large portion of the union workers. They are gun enthusiasts,

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Speaker 1: and you are at to be trying to diminish your

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Speaker 1: second amount of right and think we are gun, you're force.

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Speaker 1: They go to shush, shush. No one is in a

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Speaker 1: position where they have a significant financial disability as a

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Speaker 1: consequence of this stars this particular crisis. We can do that.

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Speaker 1: We did that. We've been through this before with the coronavirus.

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Speaker 1: We've been through this before excooming. We've been through this

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Speaker 1: before with dealing with the viruses at the N one

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Speaker 1: h one five as well as what happened in Africa

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Speaker 1: one way again, they get inspires by great leaders who

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Speaker 1: are you know, called a supped or better angels, from

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Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln to all the way you know, to f

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Speaker 1: Dr to to John Kennedy Bride et ce Rock. You

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Speaker 1: have to take care of the cure that will make

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Speaker 1: the problem worst, no matter what, no matter what. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: you know you're supposed to cough into your elbow. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, sir. I learned that actually covering your White House,

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Speaker 1: you know. Actually, actually that's true. But fortunately I'm alone

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Speaker 1: in my home. But that's okay. Why doesn't he just

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Speaker 1: act like a president? That's a stupid way to say, sorry,

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Speaker 1: goodead No, no, I probably best I known. And what

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Speaker 1: we have done is the reason why most of the

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Speaker 1: world has repaired to us, particularly after World War Two,

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Speaker 1: is because of who we are as a nation, We

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Speaker 1: the people, we hold these truths, etc. Sounds corny, but

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Speaker 1: it's real. If we were setting up an education system

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Speaker 1: for the first time in our history, as we did

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Speaker 1: at the turn of the last in the late eighteen hundreds,

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Speaker 1: we would not say twelve years was enough. Twelve years

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Speaker 1: is not enough to live in a tent. The second

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Speaker 1: quarter of the middle of the twenty first century. What

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Speaker 1: is President Trump's level of culpability? What's his level of responsibility? Say,

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Speaker 1: toward the illness and fatalities we're witnessing every few minutes

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Speaker 1: these days. I put it slightly differently here, what is

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Speaker 1: his responsibility? And what if there wasn't an allocating responsibility? Is?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'll let history do that. We need to

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Speaker 1: get direct cash relief payments out to as many people

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Speaker 1: as possible, as quickly as possible. Again, this may sound straightforward,

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Speaker 1: but no Americans should have to wait a single minute

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Speaker 1: so Donald Trump can put his signature on a physical check.

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Speaker 1: Former vice president and Democratic presidential Kennet Joe Biden, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for your time, so appreciate it. Well,

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Speaker 1: thanks for giving me the time. Thank you. I don't

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Speaker 1: wonder where I am now. I know when they asked

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Speaker 1: me where is Joe Biden? I say he was on

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Speaker 1: them showing MSNBC. People say all the time, Oh, we

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Speaker 1: got to get the vice president of the basement. He's

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Speaker 1: fine in the basebook. Two people see him a day,

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Speaker 1: his two bodied people. That's it, and let Trump keep

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Speaker 1: doing what Trump's doing. It's hard for the vice president

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Speaker 1: to break through and he gets to sit down there

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Speaker 1: quietly with no answers and a track record that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be gone over with a fine tooth comb, and everywhere

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Speaker 1: we begin to look, it's not particularly favorable to anything.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts, well, I think that the fine tooth comb

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Speaker 1: will probably be used by few right and some other

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Speaker 1: outlets perhaps, but not many in the traditional mainstream media

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Speaker 1: are going to scrutinize Joe Biden's record in any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form. We've seen that now to this point

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Speaker 1: that he could say literally whatever he wants and not

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Speaker 1: be challenged. For instance, the president won't leave office even

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Speaker 1: if he loses, and I'll have the military protect him,

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Speaker 1: and he's not going to leave, right, And that is

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Speaker 1: just stuff that even like Alex Jones here is and says,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, that that's out of control, that's the

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Speaker 1: way out there. But he gets a pass because he

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Speaker 1: could say whatever he wants. It's because obviously people want

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Speaker 1: to see him get elected. But to Mark's point before,

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Speaker 1: I mean, picture miss parallel universe for a moment, in

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Speaker 1: terms of what we're seeing in Seattle. Let's say a

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Speaker 1: large mob took over a neighborhood and say I don't

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Speaker 1: know Brooklyn, right, And in fact, the mob isn't even

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Speaker 1: a mob. It's the Covington Catholic kids, and they're wearing

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Speaker 1: the Maga hat and this time you arm them, okay,

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Speaker 1: And they forced the police to evacuate their own building,

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Speaker 1: and then they construct walls, which are bad apparently, and

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Speaker 1: then they patrol the area and say who gets in,

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Speaker 1: who gets out. It's their own company in their country,

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Speaker 1: and they call themselves CHAZ, which of course doesn't stand

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Speaker 1: for the capitals whole Autonomo zone. This time it's the

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Speaker 1: Covington High School Autonomo zone. What would the media reaction

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Speaker 1: be because this story is largely being ignored, and I

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Speaker 1: know what the media reaction will because I'm ve enough

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Speaker 1: to remember, I don't know, a month ago, and you

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Speaker 1: played it in your montage before, when some protesters took

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Speaker 1: over or at least you know, for a little bit anyway,

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Speaker 1: the State House in Michigan, and some were armed, and

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Speaker 1: the only word that I could think of in terms

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Speaker 1: of the media coverage was maybe it's two words. I'm

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Speaker 1: not really sure what the answer is on this one.

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Speaker 1: Freaked out and we're not seeing the freak out anymore

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Speaker 1: because people agree with the message overall to fund the

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Speaker 1: police and all these things. So, yeah, what we're seeing

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Speaker 1: in terms of Seattle, when you compared to what happened

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Speaker 1: to Michigan, you could teach a class on what media biases.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what it looks like. You know. The bias

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Speaker 1: is so palpable, so real. And I'm not overstating at

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Speaker 1: Mark Simone, every second minute hour of twenty four hour day,

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Speaker 1: every day since this guy, even before he was elected.

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Speaker 1: And now we learned a lot of how they tried.

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Speaker 1: People in power, the highest levels of power, tried to

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Speaker 1: try to subvert a free and fair election. We learned

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Speaker 1: that there was no Russia collusion. We see the double standard,

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Speaker 1: quid pro quo, Joe zero experience hunter and now it's

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Speaker 1: this And I watched city after city after city, No, universally, nobody,

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Speaker 1: There's not one person I know that ever defended what

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Speaker 1: happened to George Floyd. Not one. No, it's absolutely the

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Speaker 1: single worst cop I've ever seen in my life. Ray Kelly,

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Speaker 1: the greatest police Commission America, was on the show today.

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Speaker 1: He even he said, in his thirty forty years, the

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Speaker 1: worst thing he's ever seen. That's a problem with the protesting.

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Speaker 1: You busy protesting to people who agree with you for

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Speaker 1: the most part. And I hope this protest isn't wasted.

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Speaker 1: You got America's attention. Use it for something specific, Get

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Speaker 1: specific changes and things that you can get institutionalized. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's fun to rename streets and paint things on the street,

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Speaker 1: but that's just symbolic. It's not going to make any

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Speaker 1: real change that don't don't waste the protest, get something

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Speaker 1: accomplished with it. Well, okay, so, but how do you

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Speaker 1: stop an effort when they have the veto proof, you know,

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Speaker 1: city Council of Minneapolis that says we're going to defund

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Speaker 1: the police. What do you do when you have a

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Speaker 1: Seattle mayor that is calling this a summer of love

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Speaker 1: and the festive Zone and every other bizarre thing that

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Speaker 1: you know is being said about all of this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm reading this daily and I'm like, you're kidding me, right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna call it a festive zone. We're gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like a spig street party. When you

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Speaker 1: just take over city blocks, take over precincts. Cops don't

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Speaker 1: go in the mayor doesn't care, the governor doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: They don't want it to get involved at all. Seemingly well,

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Speaker 1: I think this is what kills Democrats in November. They

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Speaker 1: don't realize it yet, this way is started. They look

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Speaker 1: at these crazy left wing progressive build the Blasio type mayors,

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Speaker 1: this Minneapolis guy, this Dugie Howser left wing mayor, the

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Speaker 1: mayor of Seattle who just gives up control. And then

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Speaker 1: you see Joe Biden, you know, who just looks too slow,

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Speaker 1: too out of control. Donald Trump said at once, the

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Speaker 1: President said, this is the perfect candidate for these guys.

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Speaker 1: This is what the big donors want. They'll put him

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Speaker 1: in the nursing home and they'll run the country. And

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Speaker 1: people are going to start to realize that even before

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Speaker 1: the debates happened. Yeah Joe, Yeah, Joe Biden isn't running

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Speaker 1: for president. Guys. Actually, this Mark just perfectly stated. They

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Speaker 1: put him in. He's a vessel to get in because

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Speaker 1: maybe you can bring him moderates in Pennsylvania, Ohio and

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Speaker 1: Michigan and Wisconsin, those key states that Donald Trump took

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Speaker 1: lass time. And then from there people you don't even know,

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Speaker 1: forget who who the vice president is. People you don't

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Speaker 1: even know. Behind the scenes, faceless people will be running

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Speaker 1: this country. Gotta take a break. More with Joe Concho,

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Speaker 1: More with Mark Simone on the other side, eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninety four one, Sean, you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program, then your calls coming up next

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Speaker 1: half hour. Look, I want one of the things that

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Speaker 1: that I think is really important is that we somehow

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Speaker 1: put that back on. There's somehow that we're in a

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Speaker 1: situation where all right, as we continue with our friends

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Speaker 1: Mark Simone, Joe Concho, or with us all right, Joe,

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Speaker 1: So where does this all end in a one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty one days now that we get to hear

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Speaker 1: the great Joe Biden and we see all of these

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Speaker 1: all of this anarchy, chaos, disorder, failure of big liberal

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Speaker 1: cities and states, does that now factor into what happens

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Speaker 1: in November? I would think so. I'm getting out of

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Speaker 1: the prediction business, by the way, because if you told

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Speaker 1: me even in January that everything that just happened the

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Speaker 1: last three months. I heard a great line from somebody recently.

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Speaker 1: He said, we have lived an entire decade in the

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Speaker 1: first five months of the twenties, right, crazy thing that's happened,

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Speaker 1: it's not so who knows what the next one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty five days holds because we've had no room.

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Speaker 1: Mark knows this. You know this, Sean. There hasn't been

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Speaker 1: a slow day in news probably I don't know three

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Speaker 1: or four years. So one hundred things can happen. But overall,

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01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: in the end, if the fund the police actually sticks

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Speaker 1: to Democrats and look, Alexandrocascio Cortez wants that, and she

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Speaker 1: is an advisor on the on the Biden campaign as

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Speaker 1: far as being part of the chairman of a task

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Speaker 1: force that he runs. If he if the president's able

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Speaker 1: to attach law and order and chaos to Democrats in

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Speaker 1: terms of defunding the police, in terms of that, he's

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Speaker 1: the guy who's going to keep the country safe. Well,

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01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 1: if you let Biden and then you're gonna have seattle

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Speaker 1: all over the place, then that we get in a

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Speaker 1: very composition. All Right, We'll give the last forty five

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Speaker 1: seconds to our friend Mark Romone. Where's this headed? Mark?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea that they tried Russian collusion to

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01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: fake you raincall. They tried to tank you the economy,

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Speaker 1: They've tried a pandemic. They tried to riots, looting. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's next, Aliens from outer space, Locus. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what they got planned Locus. By the way,

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me. At this point, we've seen everything

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Speaker 1: else and the incredible tough search for a vice president.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't they search this hard for the right candidate.

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Speaker 1: They're working harder in the vice president needed in the

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Speaker 1: presidential candidate. Oh man, all right, Mark Simone and us

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Speaker 1: referenced by the way that you threw in there. Don't

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01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: think I didn't catch that. I caught that too, by

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01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 1: the way you think he Mark's clever. Mark likes to

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Speaker 1: throw these things out. By the way, in our next life,

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01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 1: everybody wants to beat Mark Simone. And then only Linda

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01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: knows the truth. But a two hour radio shift every

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Speaker 1: day in middle of the day. Oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that that's nothing. That is that's the tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 1: There's no more popular figure than than Mark Simone. The

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Speaker 1: rare times I go out, I turn around, there's Mark.

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Speaker 1: This guy is a social butterfly among butterflies. Well that

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Speaker 1: means you're there too, Yeah, a few times I'm there.

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01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: You're always there, which means you're everywhere otherwise I'm in

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Speaker 1: the library, the museum. Yeah, yeah, I don't even believe

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Speaker 1: that for a second. All right, thank you both. The

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and nine four one sewn you want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the program. All right, twenty five

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Speaker 1: now until the top of the hour, we'll get two

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Speaker 1: calls here in a minute. Eight hundred and ninety four

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Speaker 1: one sean, you want to be a part of the program.

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Speaker 1: So I have this book coming out, which I'm very

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Speaker 1: proud of, and I was worried at different times because

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Speaker 1: I wanted to keep it as current as possible. I

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Speaker 1: started it over a year ago. It's called Live Free

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01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 1: or Die, America and the World on the Brink, and

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01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 1: I have it in Latin underneath live Free or America Dies.

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Speaker 1: And Okay that's hyperbole. No, And I actually think I

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Speaker 1: designed this book a special way because, and I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: it now with each passing day more than ever, that

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Speaker 1: the great country, this great republic. Chapter one a republic

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01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: if you can keep it. You know, it has to

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Speaker 1: do with the Constitutional Convention and this widely told story

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Speaker 1: of Ben Franklin, and you know he comes out. Is

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01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: it a monarchy? Or a republic. It's a republic if

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Speaker 1: you can keep it. And I've never ever thought that

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Speaker 1: we would get this far in this country with so

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Speaker 1: many embracing the most radical and extreme ideas, ideals that

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Speaker 1: would absolutely upend the greatest, freest, best republic and constitutional

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Speaker 1: governance in the history of the world. Not perfect. Nobody's

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01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: saying it's perfect. We're not perfect. You know, we've watched

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01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: movements before. And the reason that I thought it was

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Speaker 1: important that I go through a history, if you will,

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Speaker 1: of what founded the principles that our framers and founders

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Speaker 1: believed would make this the greatest country on earth, because

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Speaker 1: if you don't see this as a tipping point, critical

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Speaker 1: pivotal point in our history, then I don't know what

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Speaker 1: America you're looking at. I mean, you've got groups of

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Speaker 1: people now that are happy with the idea of defunding

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Speaker 1: the police. You you have cities now seating blocks and

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Speaker 1: police precincts to anarchists and not doing a thing, not

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Speaker 1: lifting a finger to stop it and to maintain law

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Speaker 1: and order. You now see that curfews are meaningless, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you really you get to see the failure of

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Speaker 1: decades and decades of Democratic Party rule in cities, big

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Speaker 1: blue states, big blue cities all across the country. It

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Speaker 1: can't be any more stark than what we have now

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Speaker 1: on every single issue. And when you look over and

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Speaker 1: this is an entire chapter that you know, the fantasy land,

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Speaker 1: which is the new radical Democrat extremist party and their agenda,

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Speaker 1: and what is their agenda? Okay, well, ten years no

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Speaker 1: more oil or gas. You know, for the first time

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Speaker 1: in seventy five years, we are energy independent. It is

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Speaker 1: the lifeblood of the world's economy. But they want to

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Speaker 1: eliminate it. If you eliminate it, it's a guaranteed prescription

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Speaker 1: for poverty. You now have of talk of everything is

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Speaker 1: going to be free. I go over all the costs mathematically,

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Speaker 1: it's impossible to implement Medicare for all ten years of

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Speaker 1: fifty two trillion dollars, the New Green Deal ninety four

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Speaker 1: trillion dollars. Okay, guys, be only taken four and four

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Speaker 1: and a half trillion a year. Do the math. It's

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Speaker 1: not complicated, and that would mean you have no defense.

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Speaker 1: On top of it, it is school is going to

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Speaker 1: be free, guaranteed government jobs, help, guaranteed government healthy foods,

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Speaker 1: got guaranteed education from basically the minute you can walk

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Speaker 1: to the you know, all the way through college, eliminating

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Speaker 1: school debt that people have to pay about who's going

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Speaker 1: to pay for all of this? These these are the

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Speaker 1: false promises of liberalism. And then eventually, well then we're

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Speaker 1: going to get rid of you know, cars, and we'll

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Speaker 1: have plug in stations everywhere. Okay, We're gonna just upend

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Speaker 1: the automobile industry like that. We're gonna get rid of eventually,

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Speaker 1: airplanes and cows. They're saying it. It's not that I'm

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Speaker 1: making it up. And you can see that if you

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Speaker 1: believe that they were moderates within the Democratic Party, you

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01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 1: see that their voices are squashed and shut down by

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Speaker 1: this this new extreme radical leftist party, you know. And

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Speaker 1: you can look at you know, pre coronavirus, and you

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01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: can see, okay, compared Donald Trump's agenda and what he

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Speaker 1: did for the country in a short period of time

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Speaker 1: under the worst of circumstances, I've never seen a president

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Speaker 1: hated to this extent. I've never seen a medias so

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01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine since so harshly aligned against the president.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing in their world or minds that Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: can do right. But he kept his promises on cutting

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Speaker 1: taxes and it worked. He kept his promises on ending

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Speaker 1: burdensome regulation and that worked. He said he'd get rid

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Speaker 1: of you know what, three or four to every one

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Speaker 1: new regulation. It's like eight eighteen to one. He said

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Speaker 1: he'd appoint constitutionalists, not activist justices to the courts, and

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Speaker 1: he's done that too. He said he'd secure the border. Well,

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Speaker 1: by November, we'll have four hundred miles of brand new

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Speaker 1: border wall. And it was a heavy lift every step

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Speaker 1: of the way. You know, you have Democrats. They want

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Speaker 1: open borders. They create their sanctuary cities, their safe zones,

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01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: they're autonomous zones, their summers are free love whatever zones,

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Speaker 1: and you could see that they want open borders for everybody.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a good idea, especially considering the

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Speaker 1: heroine and the fete and all the cross into this

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Speaker 1: country from across the border. And I just as you

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Speaker 1: look at the foreign defense differences and foreign policy differences. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna bribe dictators with cargo planes full of cash

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Speaker 1: and other currency one hundred and fifty billion from mullahs

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Speaker 1: in Iran. The chant death to America and death to

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Speaker 1: Israel and burn our flags. You know you're gonna get

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01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: upset over Russia collusion, but not Hillary's dirty dossier. And

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Speaker 1: nobody in the media, no Democrats, seems upset over the

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Speaker 1: fact that there never was any evidence whatsoever of any

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Speaker 1: Trump Russia collusion. As a matter of fact, it's been debunked.

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Speaker 1: And they dragged the country through three years of hell,

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Speaker 1: and then once that didn't work out, then another six

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Speaker 1: months of hell over Ukraine. And I go into the

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Speaker 1: book in deep detail on that. How can that happen

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Speaker 1: in America? And as of now the book is done,

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Speaker 1: you know, nobody's really been held accountable. I think they

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Speaker 1: will be, but so far they have it. But you know, Sean,

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Speaker 1: the one of the things, you know, and we've talked

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Speaker 1: about this so much over the past year when you

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Speaker 1: were writing this, and obviously you know, I've been with

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Speaker 1: you for fifteen years, so I've seen you know, you're

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01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: such a You're a student of history, you love history,

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01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 1: and I think you know this book. Like when you

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Speaker 1: said I think I'm gonna write this, I'm like, oh,

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01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 1: dear Lord, because you know, I know how hard conservative

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01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: victory was for you. In twenty ten and all that

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Speaker 1: we went through to get that message. I don't like

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Speaker 1: writing and everyone's gonna sell you during it from I mean, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm doing it. You know I did this, Linda,

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Speaker 1: And you know why, of course, and why I had

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Speaker 1: all these people that I asked to research this, research this, research,

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Speaker 1: this research this, and I mean I wanted to really

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Speaker 1: make a comprehensive I want to I'm laid out in

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Speaker 1: this book what is at stake. I have laid out

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Speaker 1: exactly what is on the line in one hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty one days. And I'll tell you right now, and

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Speaker 1: I'll predict here now. If Donald J. Trump does not

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Speaker 1: win this election, guaranteed this country will be unrecognizable for

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Speaker 1: our kids and grandkids. It's a done deal. That I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is poignant, That is true. There is this is

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Speaker 1: a very scary time. I mean, we are having people

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Speaker 1: call in I'm seeing it all over social media. You know,

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Speaker 1: people that have called themselves hard left for years, and

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Speaker 1: they're talking about like we don't even recognize our own party,

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Speaker 1: Like we can't even what is this autonomous zone? You know,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like, who do you call when there

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Speaker 1: is no police officer to come to you. You know,

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Speaker 1: what we all saw that happened to Minneapolis was heartbreaking

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Speaker 1: and terrifying and just so destructive to your soul, to

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Speaker 1: everybody who watched it. But then it became a movement

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Speaker 1: that was already planned by a group called Antifa, that

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Speaker 1: was taking over the group of protesters that were doing

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Speaker 1: it for the right reasons, and we lost ourselves in

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Speaker 1: the message of it all. And it's like we should

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Speaker 1: be unifying over this and looking for solutions, but they're

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Speaker 1: excusing it to continue. They are. You know, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: warned about Obama and his radical background and his agenda.

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Speaker 1: He seems like a moderate compared to what's being discussed now.

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Speaker 1: Lie on every issue. Joe Biden, you know, y'all cave

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Speaker 1: on that. I'll cave on that. I'm really with you

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Speaker 1: on here, here here, and we all know that Joe

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Speaker 1: is not exactly a guy with That's a fastball if

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Speaker 1: you ever had one. Yeah, and honestly too, I think

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Speaker 1: you know it saw a really interesting tweet by Colonel

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Speaker 1: Allen West this weekend, and he's in our prayers because

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Speaker 1: he just had a horrible motorcycle accident. Has gone through

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Speaker 1: a lot right now, but putting that aside, you know,

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Speaker 1: he tweeted out and he said, you know, listen, he's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm an African American. I served in my military. He's like,

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Speaker 1: but you know, just because you tear down statues, you

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Speaker 1: don't erase history. History is what it is. We have

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Speaker 1: to learn from it. And that dovetails exactly into what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about with your book. You know, we're looking

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Speaker 1: through the prism of history. We're looking through all that

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Speaker 1: has happened through our American history. And this Father's Day,

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Speaker 1: you know, when people are sitting down with their families,

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Speaker 1: because that's what happens on Father's Day, just like we

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Speaker 1: talked about on Mother's Day, just like we talk about

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Speaker 1: with anniversary's, birthday's weddings, where the family gets together. This

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Speaker 1: Father's Day, you know, we can take a look at

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Speaker 1: your book and say, Okay, this is how we got here,

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Speaker 1: this is how we stay here, this is how we

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Speaker 1: keep America great, and this is how we build upon

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Speaker 1: on our mistakes. We learn from them when we find solutions.

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Speaker 1: You know, your book is about hearkening back, looking from

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Speaker 1: and learning from history. A racing history does not help

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Speaker 1: us to learn from the mistakes that we've made, and

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Speaker 1: when this book is an opportunity for fathers and sons

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Speaker 1: and daughters and families to get together. You know, on

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Speaker 1: Father's Day, when you're sitting around the table and you're

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Speaker 1: looking at Live, Free or Die, you know, there's great

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Speaker 1: book that you've written and you've taken the time to do.

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Speaker 1: You know that such a great gift, you know, and

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Speaker 1: it has it just keeps on giving because you're learning

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Speaker 1: every time you're reading, and it's something we can do together.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's one thing that I that I really

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Speaker 1: spent a couple of things that really did a deep

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Speaker 1: dive into, and that was our nation's founding in history,

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Speaker 1: I did a deep dive. Chapter four, Well one is

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Speaker 1: the democrats agenda. Most people listen to the show know

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Speaker 1: that because I go over daily stuff I don't talk

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Speaker 1: probably enough about is socialism. It's chapter four, the history

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Speaker 1: of Failure. I talked a lot about Russia, collusion, the

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Speaker 1: attempted you know, coup there and the impeachment, axaster and

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Speaker 1: duplicity and hypocrisy and the mob and the media. I

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Speaker 1: talk about them, and you know, this assault on all

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Speaker 1: things that are freedom and then nobody really has the

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Speaker 1: comprehensive list of all the accomplishments of this president. And

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Speaker 1: then I go into the whole coronavirus thing. I edited

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Speaker 1: that chapter late in the game because I wanted to

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Speaker 1: keep it as current as possible. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: this that as I look at this landscape, I am

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Speaker 1: I am not afraid to say that I am really

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Speaker 1: concerned more than I've ever been in my life about

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Speaker 1: what this country will look like. You know, you want

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Speaker 1: guaranteed universal basic income through a majority of Americans now

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Speaker 1: on to elect socialist office. Do you really believe in

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Speaker 1: the New Green Deal? Do you really agree with the

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Speaker 1: Northams of the world. First of all, have the baby

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, make sure the baby's comfortable, then decide

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Speaker 1: open borders, sanctuary cities. Do you believe in the lawlessness?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe in anarchists? Do you believe that you'd

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Speaker 1: ever see cops pelted eight hundred of them hurt so far,

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Speaker 1: bottles and bricks and rocks and molotov cocktails, and they

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Speaker 1: do nothing, They absolutely do nothing right. And the thing

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Speaker 1: that you're talking about here is about the thing that

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Speaker 1: you're talking about here is as that, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: you have a situation where people are no longer looking

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Speaker 1: at each other's human beings. You know, I was in

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Speaker 1: church yesterday and my pastor made a very interesting part

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Speaker 1: of his sermon, which he dedicated to you know. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I want everybody look around the church. And we're having

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Speaker 1: all of our services outside because of COVID, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: I want everybody look around the church right now, and

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Speaker 1: I want you to understand that a lot of you

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Speaker 1: are going to do things irritate each other. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: don't like this one or this one watches this channel

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Speaker 1: and this one, by the way, is he talking directly

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Speaker 1: to you? Because everything I do irritation. He's like, irritate

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Speaker 1: everybody in my life. Unbelievable. He's great. But he made

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Speaker 1: an interesting point, which is like he's like, you gotta

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Speaker 1: love the rioters. Got to love the protesters because they're

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Speaker 1: children of God and they know not what they do

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Speaker 1: at this moment, and you need to love them and

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Speaker 1: forgive them because that's what God is doing for all

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Speaker 1: of us. And I was like, hmmm, because you know Friday,

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Speaker 1: when I drove into the city, you know, I had

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Speaker 1: a protester all week. My car's been getting jumped on,

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Speaker 1: I've been getting pelled. I had a guy spit in

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Speaker 1: my face on Friday, and call me all sorts of

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Speaker 1: interesting names, you know, And you know we're living this.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not just what you see on TV. Like,

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Speaker 1: we're living it every day. And it's very, very hard

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Speaker 1: to do that. And I think that a book like

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Speaker 1: Live Free or Die it's so poignant right now because

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Speaker 1: we are literally exercising our freedoms and those that wish

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Speaker 1: to be tolerated are not tolerant of anything. You know. Look,

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Speaker 1: you're you're much younger than me. Okay, let me let

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Speaker 1: me be honest here. Thirty one years I've been doing

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Speaker 1: this in Radio twenty five of Fox, and I've been

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Speaker 1: blessed beyond anything I ever deserve, trust me, And I

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Speaker 1: know that I'm reminded of it daily. And I will

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Speaker 1: tell you that it's it's what I look at. You

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Speaker 1: lend the only sense videos a Liam her Son, and

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Speaker 1: I look at that that kid is full of life.

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Speaker 1: That cracks me up. This kid, like a lot of kids,

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Speaker 1: I think kids are amazing. And I look at this

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is not that country is not

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Speaker 1: going to exist. This country as we know it, the

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Speaker 1: one I grew up and is not going to exist.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing that we're talking about this Father's Day.

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Speaker 1: Nisable right. If you're you literally have to live free

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Speaker 1: or die, because if we do not save this country

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Speaker 1: for our children, which is why we do everything we do,

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Speaker 1: we are going to be in big trouble. And that's

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty one days from now today. All right,

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Speaker 1: loaded up the latest news information. Oh we can protest,

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Speaker 1: they're not socially distant, but don't have a rally party

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Speaker 1: in the fake news. We'll get to that. Also, we

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Speaker 1: will have full analysis of the shooting in Atlanta or

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Speaker 1: Rayshard Brooks and what went on in that particular situation,

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Speaker 1: the chaos, the mayhem and the anarchy on autonomous zones

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Speaker 1: and the summer of free love. We'll update you there

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Speaker 1: so you DVR ninet Eastern Hannah, Fox News. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you tonight at night. I'm back here tomorrow. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being will us