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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 1: We have a very exciting guest, fresh off the plane

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Speaker 1: from Coachella, Brianna.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 3: Thank you and everyone listening.

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Speaker 4: I usually don't sound like this, but my voice is

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Speaker 4: gone because I was just singing for three days straight.

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Speaker 4: And I was also worried that I'm going to be

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Speaker 4: like mouth breathing because I have so much dust in

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Speaker 4: my nose from Kachel.

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Speaker 2: I remember how bad is it?

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 4: It was insane, like I had layers of dust on

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Speaker 4: your skin. It's disgusting, so bad.

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Speaker 3: We made it. We're here on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy, thank you for coming, of course a plane,

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Speaker 1: and I'm exciting. A lot of people asked if we've

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Speaker 1: ever met before, and I was like, funny story, Actually

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Speaker 1: Brianna came to Rutgers when she did her like college tour.

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Speaker 3: Row back.

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Speaker 4: I had purple hair, so I'd go buy hair colors.

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Speaker 4: Of how long ago that was? That was probably like

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Speaker 4: four years ago.

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Speaker 2: I was I was a I think I was a

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Speaker 2: sophomore junior.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, that was the first time we

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Speaker 4: went to your sorority, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because everyone at Data wanted to see Brianna, so

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Speaker 1: she came. Everyone was freaking out, and then we went

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Speaker 1: to Reds and it sucked.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, it sucks, But your sorority.

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Speaker 4: I had never, like, I wasn't in a sorority in

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Speaker 4: high school, in high school, in college, I did like sports,

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Speaker 4: in sports and stuff, but your sorority. You were having

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Speaker 4: a party. So it felt like we were walking into

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Speaker 4: a sorority out of the movies. It was a little scary,

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Speaker 4: like everyone was clapping and doing like gangs like it was.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I have to go to the bathroom

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Speaker 4: and recollect myself. But it was awesome. All the girls

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Speaker 4: were amazing. I had just never been thrown into a

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Speaker 4: crazy sorority party like that.

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Speaker 1: But no, it was nuts and we were doing our chant.

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Speaker 1: It was a whole shang. Yeah, it's it's very cult like. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it was so funny. Because I remember you got

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Speaker 1: so much shit for saying that Rutgers was boring, and

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Speaker 1: I felt so bad. But on the real like, Rutgers

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Speaker 1: is not that fun. And I will say that being

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Speaker 1: an alumni, and I know people are diehard rockers, but I.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't. The people were fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people were great, but it's the campus the Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that was like where I went to college.

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Speaker 3: It's stunk.

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Speaker 4: The people were great, boring, not fun. Would go to

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Speaker 4: Ohio State every weekend.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the problem when you implement a campus

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Speaker 2: And that's where people lived.

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Speaker 1: That's why people were pissed when Ruckers was built, because

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. She's not realistic. And that bar closed down,

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Speaker 1: did it? So it just shows it was not Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I remember we ubered home, like from my party, we

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Speaker 4: ubered back into the city and went out to a nightclub.

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Speaker 3: We got to go back to Manhattan right now. That's

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Speaker 3: so funny.

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Speaker 1: I know we haven't caught up in a while, but

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Speaker 1: a lot has happened. I feel in your life over

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Speaker 1: the past couple months.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've lived seventeen lives since i've seen

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Speaker 4: you last Yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: Breakup with Zach Bryan.

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Speaker 1: I know you've talked so much about it and we

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Speaker 1: don't need to go into it because you were so

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Speaker 1: open about it. And kudos to you because you've shared

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Speaker 1: more than you had to. But I feel like you're

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Speaker 1: such a free spirited person that you would hate for

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Speaker 1: anybody to judge your character or try to guard you.

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Speaker 1: What made you realize this is not normal?

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Speaker 4: I think throughout the relationship, I just lost myself a

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Speaker 4: little bit. And while I was with this person, I

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Speaker 4: walk into a room and I wouldn't be as loud

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Speaker 4: catching myself worried about what I was saying or how

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Speaker 4: But I was so conditioned because of this person to

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Speaker 4: to be in trouble, or it's going to be a

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Speaker 4: bad night, it's going to be a bad week. And

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Speaker 4: then that started like leaking into my regular life, not

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Speaker 4: just my relationship. So I would go on podcasts, I

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Speaker 4: would hold my tongue, I wouldn't say things that I

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Speaker 4: I would even catch myself kind of saying things in

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Speaker 4: a particular manner, or I would speak in a different style.

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Speaker 4: I was like, who the even am I becoming? I

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Speaker 4: couldn't recognize myself anymore. So I think once that started happening,

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Speaker 4: and once my friends started saying stuff like, pre are

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Speaker 4: you okay? You just seem so out of it, you

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Speaker 4: don't seem like yourself anymore, I think it took other people,

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Speaker 4: even people online. All my comments were like, I don't

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Speaker 4: even know who you are anymore, Like you don't even

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Speaker 4: recognize you? Who are You're not the same person. But

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Speaker 4: I didn't even realize I was turning into something.

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Speaker 3: That I wasn't.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what kind of when the light

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Speaker 4: bulb went off and someone really can have so much

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Speaker 4: control or power over you without you even realizing it.

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Speaker 1: When you got out, did you feel like you had

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Speaker 1: a weight was lifted off of your show? And as

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Speaker 1: crazy as it is to say, got out, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: easy for you to leave.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think this is relatable for a lot

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Speaker 4: of people once the relationship ends, and especially when you're

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Speaker 4: in a mentally abusive relationship. When it ends, you're not

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Speaker 4: just like, oh my gosh, I'm happy, this is great,

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Speaker 4: it's over.

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Speaker 3: You're still so.

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Speaker 2: Attached you feel like you need him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're attached. It's like a toxic cycle. Your brain

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Speaker 4: is rewired. So it took me a while to finally,

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Speaker 4: and feel like, oh my gosh, my world didn't just end.

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Speaker 4: And in that moment, it felt like my world had

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Speaker 4: through a best friend breakup at the same time, in

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Speaker 4: the whole world judging you everything that you say or do.

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Speaker 3: I was going through so much and.

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Speaker 4: Then I have so many people giving their two cents,

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Speaker 4: which I get, it's my job and I signed it

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Speaker 4: a life that we have, Yeah, exactly, but it just

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Speaker 4: definitely didn't make it easier.

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Speaker 3: It made it all a lot more confusing.

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Speaker 4: But I slowly got back to myself and I just

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Speaker 4: surrounded myself with my family and my best friends, and

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Speaker 4: it's possible to be okay again. And I think a

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Speaker 4: lot of people, especially based off of my messages and

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Speaker 4: girls that come up to me, they think it's never

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Speaker 3: It is. It's just going to take time and work.

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Speaker 3: You have to like work on yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Grace was there the night that when you came

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Speaker 2: to roppers and did she just did that friendship end

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Speaker 2: because she didn't want to see you hurt anymore? No, no,

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Speaker 2: it was It was not related to the Zach Bryant.

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Speaker 3: To break up at all.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, it just there were so much

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Speaker 4: other stuff going on, and I'd like tried to say

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Speaker 4: mean whatever, because you guys had a podcast together, they've

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Speaker 1: So did you kind of feel like it was too

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Speaker 1: close for comfort? It came to a point of, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're mixing, because you know how they never say to

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Speaker 4: And business when I's kind of the same thing. When

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Speaker 4: I started bars, I'll never forget. Her name was Jen Simons.

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Speaker 4: She used to work a parstool. She's like our sales

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Speaker 4: rep or whatever. I was super close with her. She

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Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, she's not my best friend,

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Speaker 2: It sounds all great and the best thing.

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Speaker 4: After it did work forever, Like it works for a while,

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Speaker 4: but then like people's egos get big and they're it's

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Speaker 4: just it's a recipe for disaster. And I talk to

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Speaker 3: It's just kind of like a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 4: Which thanks because you want to do everything with the

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I came to a point where it was

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Speaker 4: There's just so much going on behind the scenes where

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Speaker 4: not happy anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're right, because like they, like I just said,

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Speaker 1: you know, combining friends and family, work with family, anything

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Speaker 1: like that, it's bound to happen where jealousy picks up.

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Speaker 1: Someone's jealous of the other person if this person is

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Speaker 1: striving high higher than the other, especially because you guys

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Speaker 1: were on the podcast together. Yeah, so you guys are

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Speaker 1: and you shouldn't even be competing for the same thing,

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Speaker 1: but you guys, it probably felt like you were. If

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Speaker 1: But it's bound to happen because you just hear the

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Speaker 4: We just also wanted two different things. I wanted to podcast,

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Speaker 4: you wanted to be a comedian. It was just it

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Speaker 4: was just like two forces coming together hitting each other.

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Speaker 4: It was just not working anymore. And you you work

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Speaker 3: How do you deal with that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I my mom joined in The Real Housewives

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Speaker 1: when I was eight years old, so it's been everything

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Speaker 1: especially if you were in that girly state, to be

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Speaker 1: famous and you know anything. But I was also in

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Speaker 1: that industry when I was younger. My mom always took

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Speaker 1: me on auditions to the city, so I was constantly

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Speaker 1: in that room, realm of things, and I thought it

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Speaker 1: my mom started fighting with her brother, and there was

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Speaker 1: just a lot of turmoil on the show. Hence why

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Speaker 1: Jersey's on pause right now. So it just like it

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Speaker 1: doesn't work, you know, kind of the same thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: my mom and her brother were fighting for ten years.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like you're watching this, it's almost like

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Speaker 1: You're watching the same commercial happen over and over again,

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Speaker 1: We don't want to do this anymore. This is so toxic.

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Speaker 1: We're getting absolutely nowhere. And then, you know, I dealt

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Speaker 4: My friends and I couldn't believe it, Like what what

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Speaker 4: I'm single, having the best time in my life, and

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Speaker 4: It's like, if you're a get out of a relationship

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Speaker 4: Also, these people just every boy that I'm spotted with,

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Speaker 1: But I mean, no, no matter what, they're always going

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Bad publicity, he's good publicity great. Yeah, but it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, because you just have to be happy with

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Speaker 4: BFF pod is awesome. I love Josh. He's so funny.

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00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,920
Speaker 4: I really do feel like he's my little brother. It's

445
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 4: been kind of a crazy transition to have Dave leave

446
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 4: and then it just be the two kids on their own.

447
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he felt like our dad in the.

448
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 1: Situation, or so, he was like another co host with

449
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, so there was the three you.

450
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 4: It started off as Dave and Josh like four and

451
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,439
Speaker 4: a half years ago. I think they did one or

452
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 4: two episodes and it was just too broie. They needed

453
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 4: some they needed a female perspective, and I was working

454
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 4: at barstool at the time, so Dave had.

455
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 2: Asked me this fun You and Grace's podcast kind of

456
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 2: went down.

457
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 4: No, I would say that was only in the past,

458
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,439
Speaker 4: like two and a half years. Plan Bree was longer

459
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 4: than BFFs. I started it alone and then I added

460
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 4: Grace and I got her hired at Barschool and then

461
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 4: she joined and we crushed sh it. It was a blast.

462
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 4: We tore together, but then no, it just slowly dissipated.

463
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 4: But I started BFFs. And when I first started, I

464
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 4: didn't have a camera on me, barely talked. I was terrified.

465
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 4: And then I kind of came into my own and

466
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 4: it was fun. It was just a really good dynamic

467
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 4: with Josh and Dave. And of course throughout the years,

468
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 4: me and Josh got actually close, we became friends because

469
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 4: we're closer in age than me and Dave.

470
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, it.

471
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 4: Just kind of felt like it was nearing the end

472
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 4: for Dave because he's so much older and he was

473
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 4: talking about at this point like teen year old kids.

474
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 3: I feel like a weird I can't.

475
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 4: Do this anymore and fair enough, so he left and

476
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 4: it was up to Josh and if we wanted to

477
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 4: keep it going, and of course we wanted to keep

478
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 4: it going. We have a blast doing it, and yeah,

479
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 4: it's it's just kind of finding its own lane right now.

480
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 4: And he's been fun.

481
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: But now Dave still owns barstool. He says he's a genius.

482
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: He is, he is.

483
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 2: I feel like he's a wizard. I know, I mean

484
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: this that he does. I'm and he went to you, Mesh.

485
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: My sister goes to university in Michigan, so I'm really

486
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: smart people come out of there.

487
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 4: Well, it's so funny because with Dave, he is one

488
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 4: of the most stupid people I've ever like, just what

489
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 4: he says and how he speaks. But at the same

490
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 4: time he's a wizard and a genius. It's just the

491
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 4: best of both worlds. It's really funny and he definitely

492
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 4: inspires me a lot. He's a very very smart man.

493
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: Oh so smart.

494
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: I know you said you don't really like to have

495
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: too many people.

496
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,719
Speaker 1: You do like to have guests on BFF pod, but

497
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: your viewers honestly don't really want.

498
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 4: You to which things because we have so many like

499
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 4: good guests that want to come on and lined up,

500
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 4: and they get mad when we have guests on.

501
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 3: They're like, who ever know is this? I'm like, this

502
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 3: is the most famous person?

503
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, which I understand though, because when I listen to podcasts,

504
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes interviews get repetitive if you don't

505
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 4: switch it up or make it kind of new and different.

506
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 2: No, And it's true they do. And that's why I like.

507
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: When you really connect with the person, you could talk

508
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 1: about other stuff, not just the same shit that's going

509
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: on exactly.

510
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,360
Speaker 4: And I think you have to listen to your viewers

511
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 4: and the people that give you the job, or listen

512
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 4: to the podcast. So we have we've had to cut

513
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 4: out a lot of guests or like cancel a lot

514
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 4: of interviews because we want to give our viewers what

515
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: they want.

516
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: If you could have a view, if you could choose

517
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: your dream guest, who would it be?

518
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 4: Well, obviously Taylor Swift, but I don't know if that

519
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: would ever. I don't think she ever does anything. I'm

520
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 4: so obsessed with her. I listened. I just drove from

521
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 4: downtown up here and it took like forty minutes. I

522
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 4: listened to the Midnight's album the whole time, time looking

523
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 4: out the window, being like, Oh, I just wish I

524
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 4: was Taylor Swift. But I think or Swift or Adam

525
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 4: Sandler would be awesome.

526
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: My god, I.

527
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: Feel like you guys would have the best time with Adam, So.

528
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: I think that would be incredible. Adam Sandler's so funny.

529
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think like actors and musical guests rather

530
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 4: than influencers or I don't know who would yours be?

531
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Speaker 2: Honestly, I love Chloe Kardashian.

532
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 4: Oh, and she has a podcast has a podcast now, Oh,

533
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 4: maybe that could happen, I know, And.

534
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: I would love to have Andy Cohen on just to

535
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: kind of walk through memory lane and just so he

536
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: could kind of tell my story from his perspective.

537
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 2: I feel like that would be.

538
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: Such an interesting episode because yes, he's the boss of

539
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: Bravo and now he's grown so much throughout the years

540
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: to such a bigger platform. But in the beginning he

541
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: saw us as little kids. I was eight then when

542
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: everything went down with my parents, just like what they

543
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 1: thought from their perspective, because they also waited to resume

544
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: Jersey till my mom got home. So it was just

545
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: a lot of behind the scenes that I wish he

546
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: could also talk about with me.

547
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: That would be so interesting and I would love that.

548
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: And then Chloe, I just think she's so nonchalant, I

549
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: don't give up, but so funny.

550
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's great, She's so funny. What did you think

551
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 4: about all the drama about Remy going on her podcasts.

552
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 3: I know there was a lot that came out of that,

553
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 3: a lot.

554
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: It was wild and listen, Remy is not warranted to

555
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: tell her followers what she got done. I know a

556
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: lot of people assumed it was ozembic, but then they

557
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,719
Speaker 1: were a little shocked on how fast she lost the weight. Listen,

558
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 1: she got asked to go on Chloe Kardashian's podcast. It

559
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: was her time to shine, drop the bomb and say

560
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: her truth.

561
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she did say it. She told everyone everything.

562
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did. She said her truth.

563
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: But she getting I feel bad, She's getting a lot

564
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: of backlash for it right now.

565
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: It stinks, and I feel like we see this over

566
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 4: and over again. People beg you to be honest, her,

567
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 4: people beg you to be super transparent, and then when

568
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 4: you are, they somehow throw it back in your face.

569
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: So it's it's what do you want? Do you want

570
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 4: people to be honest because they're all human? And of

571
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 4: course she struggled. I know her, I know her. I

572
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 4: know she struggled with wanting to say it earlier, and

573
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 4: I know she wanted to be honest right in the beginning,

574
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 4: but she was going through so much with her breakup,

575
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 4: and she was so depressed and actually in physical pain.

576
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 4: There's so much more than telling the internet like these

577
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 4: are people's real lives. And she did own up to it,

578
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: and she did say it, So I don't know, I

579
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 4: just feel like people need to cut her some slack.

580
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: I do too.

581
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: And also for her health, Yeah, she also did it

582
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: for her health.

583
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: She was literally gonna die.

584
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just not healthy.

585
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and watching those surgical videos that she's been posting,

586
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: it looks.

587
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: Very traumatic what she threw. It was not easy. So

588
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: she did it for her health.

589
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: Okay, would you guys have been happier if she was

590
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: on ozempic.

591
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: She would still lost the weight.

592
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: It's just she just is losing it a little faster.

593
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: It's just a different concept. And she looks great.

594
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, let her be.

595
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 4: She looks happy, and she was in so much physical

596
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: pain from being overweight, and her weight story isn't everyone

597
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 4: else's weight story. So maybe she needed the surgery. Yeah.

598
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: And I know, like a lot of people are also

599
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: mad at her because they feel.

600
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 2: Like she lied to them.

601
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that you know. But I feel like, no

602
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: matter what, even though Remy got the surgery, she's still

603
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: so body positive.

604
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

605
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: Yes, everybody can be heard and be seen.

606
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 4: And what the hell's body positivity even mean? Now that

607
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: she's skinny, They're like, it's we're negative. Yeah, that's you no, reverse,

608
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 4: you're not being body positive.

609
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: Now you're honestly really affecting her mental health.

610
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just don't understand. It's crazy.

611
00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: But I'm happy for Remy.

612
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 4: She's healthy and I hope that people come around to

613
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: understanding what she went through.

614
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: I do too. It did not seem easy.

615
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: But what are your favorite places to go out in

616
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: New York City? Also pause, I am so happy for

617
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: you on your apartment.

618
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: Oh, it is so gorgeous.

619
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: I love it so frigging man.

620
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: I loved everything about it. When you first moved in.

621
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: Next told me I wouldn't be able to get this apartment,

622
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: and now I'm it.

623
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 4: Literally, I'm like, I got it on my own, bitch.

624
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 4: It's so fun. It's so awesome. I live with my

625
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 4: little cousin. She moved in with me and from Boston.

626
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 4: She's like the New York having her first New York experience.

627
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: The first week she moved in, I brought her to

628
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 4: the box. She's like, well, on a Wednesday, what are

629
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 4: we do here? Are we doing this every week? I'm like, yep,

630
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 4: you're gonna get poop thrown on you and this is

631
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 4: gonna be an insane frigging time. But I love New

632
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 4: York so much. My favorite place is to go out.

633
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: I'm a dive bar girly, so I don't really feel

634
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: like you don't go to the clubs. A lot don't

635
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: go to the clubs, but I love bars. I'm interested

636
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 4: in your recommendation. Yeah, I like to go to places

637
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 4: that I won't really be like noticed that. So I

638
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 4: like to go to places where there's like a pool

639
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 4: table and there's not really much going on. I like

640
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 4: to go to Baird's is one of my favorite bars.

641
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've ever been. It's so fun,

642
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: that whole strip, that whole street in West Village, that

643
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: West Village.

644
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: I was going to say, because all my years that

645
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: I've been out in New York City, I think I've

646
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 1: been to the West Village going out less times than

647
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: I could count. Yeah, and I need to.

648
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: It's you have to just come out with I'm like gatekeeping.

649
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: I don't want to tell that my bar.

650
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: No, no, I know, I'm going to text you that

651
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: and you're taking.

652
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: You come with me this weekend and we'll go out.

653
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: But I definitely am a dive bar early. I think

654
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 4: here and there, I go to a club and it's fun.

655
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 4: It's fun to like jump up to house music. But

656
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 4: a dive bar, pool table and a group of my

657
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 4: best friends is Bleaker Street.

658
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: I want to go to bar Street.

659
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 4: Leaker Street is a blast West Village or the Lower

660
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: East Side is where you.

661
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: Can find me perfect. What do you think is the

662
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: best way to meet guys now? Would you be interested

663
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: in dating apps or you want it to just happen organically.

664
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Speaker 3: I don't think I could ever do a dating app only.

665
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: Because I mean, what for us?

666
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: We would go on Rayah?

667
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 4: I guess so yeah, But I need to I need

668
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: to feel your energy in person. I'm very attracted to

669
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: energy and if you're funny. I can't really tell if

670
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 4: you're funny over text or if you get my jokes,

671
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: So I think I would I just have to meet

672
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: someone in person. What's good about this industry or what

673
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: we do is you meet so many different people every day.

674
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: I have made more friends and met new people in

675
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 4: this past like six months than I have in the

676
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: past five years.

677
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: It's bizarre. Like no, it's true, and especially being in

678
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: New York, you.

679
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: Just you have one friend, then they introduce you to

680
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: six friends, and then it's just like a rotating door

681
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: of your friends. So I think I would just have

682
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 4: to meet someone organically if I did. But I dead

683
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: asked you. I don't think I never want to date

684
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 4: anyone ever again. I am so serious, And if I do,

685
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: I hope it's a girl. Like I don't want to

686
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: date a man ever again.

687
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 3: I mean it, We'll see. My god, I can't.

688
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: But okay, you only get the pleasure from the men,

689
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: but you don't want the attachment.

690
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: I don't want any I'd like, I just get so

691
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 4: ACKed out by everything.

692
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

693
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: I think you need time. I mean, it's just it's

694
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: not gonna happen right now. That what you I would

695
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: be icked out for a very long time. Yeah, I

696
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't even want to be because regardless, and you don't

697
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: need a controlling man at all. When you're in a relationship,

698
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: you still have restrictions.

699
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still.

700
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: Things that you can't do while you're in a relationship,

701
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: to be loyal to your partner or not be disrespectful.

702
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: It still comes with limitations.

703
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So at the same time, I would be like,

704
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm so good.

705
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 4: And I feel like this past year, I just I

706
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 4: neglected my friendships and my family so much because I

707
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: was just so stuck in it. I'm just having so

708
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: much fun being back with my friends and my family,

709
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: so I want to give them all the attention they

710
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: deserve and that I didn't give them the past year.

711
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: So that's where I'm at. No, I love that.

712
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: Okay, We're gonna just do like a little rapid fire pod.

713
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: Biggest dating red flag.

714
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: Won't share location. I agree with that.

715
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, Oh if my if Christian's location is

716
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: not loading, I start to bug.

717
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: Not even like that you're cheating, but why, It's just

718
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 4: why can't you share it?

719
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you plan on cheating? Where are you going?

720
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: Where are you going? Why you have my location? I

721
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: have all my friends' location, so do I?

722
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: I have a list.

723
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: It's like lined, like you're literally inside of me and

724
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: you can't show you aren't going to give me your location.

725
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense.

726
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: I agree. Fastest you ever said I love you to someone.

727
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 4: My college boy friend. After two weeks. We said it

728
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 4: like jinx. We said it at the same time. We

729
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: were like laughing, We're like, I love you. We got skipped,

730
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: and then we dated for four years.

731
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: So it worked, But how would you handle being ghosted?

732
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: Would you call them out?

733
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

734
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: Right, but then what if they what if you confront

735
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: them and then they don't answer you? Then my binness.

736
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 1: I hate seeing all blue keeps kind white. Honestly, I

737
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: can phone too much. Yeah, maybe if you ghost me,

738
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, wasn't meant to be.

739
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

740
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: I just recently ghosted someone and I feel awful about it.

741
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna unghost them after this pod because

742
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: now I just remembered it and I feel bad.

743
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: Oh god, But if you're.

744
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: Not interested, you're not interested, I know.

745
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: But no one deserves to be ghosted. It's wrong.

746
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they also there's also it's hard when there's

747
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: no explanation. Yeah, what are you going to explain to them?

748
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 4: I'm good, I know, right, That's why I didn't really

749
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 4: vibe with you. I've texted so many things and then

750
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: it deleted it. I'm like, I don't know what to say.

751
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: I'll have chat GBT on ghost for me after this.

752
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: What's your biggest ick you get from guys social media?

753
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: Oh?

754
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: Fitchecks?

755
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: You hate when they do I'm wearing this today? Or

756
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: where's your outfit from.

757
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 4: Or like when they like stand it, I'm so like,

758
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: I don't know because I know that's what I do

759
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: on Instagram or I do, but I feel like Instagram

760
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: is for the girls and TikTok is for the girls.

761
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: And I don't like when a man sets up the

762
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: camera and steps back and like does a body check.

763
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's literally doing the fitcheck.

764
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: I know, but I know it's a double standard, but yeah,

765
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 4: itkes me out personally.

766
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: Can't get over.

767
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: It is soft launching a relationship cringem.

768
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 4: What like back of the headshot or like just holding hands, yeah,

769
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 4: being like who is this? I think it's for attention.

770
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: Soft launching is definitely for attention.

771
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: I do too, And I feel like a lot of

772
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: people in our industry do that because they don't want to.

773
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: Reveal their person which is fair. It is fair, which

774
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: is totally fair. They want attention first. I feel like

775
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 4: you need to do some softo be it would be

776
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: the secret.

777
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

778
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 4: I feel like if I do date someone, no one's

779
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: going to know for two years, I'm just going to

780
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: be a big fat secret and if it really works out,

781
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: you're like, and this is who I love, this is

782
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 4: the guy I'm marrying.

783
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: And he's not going to embarrass me at this time.

784
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but sorry, last question about that when you came out,

785
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: because I'm just curious about everything with your ex. Did

786
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: his team reach I know his team reached out to

787
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: you for you to be quiet, Yeah, but once you

788
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: were out, did they fortelly again to any Yeah.

789
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 4: They hired bots to like spam all of my shop,

790
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: and they hired people, so you know, I don't know

791
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: if you saw from Too Hot to Handle, I love her.

792
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 4: Francesca came out that people wanted to pay her to

793
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: spread hate about Haley bey Burr. His team did the

794
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: same thing about me, like one perc and all these pots.

795
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: And I had an insider, like I still had people

796
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: on his team that were friends with me or like

797
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: likes me better because a lot of people hated him,

798
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: and they would feed me all this information and I

799
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: couldn't believe the links they were going behind the scenes,

800
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 4: but then staying so silent.

801
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: It was bizarre.

802
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: This happens behind the scenes with powerful people and with

803
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: money is really scary, and it's crazy because no one

804
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 4: on social media knows that. So like when you see

805
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: all the hate that Hailey Bieber's getting, it's it's because

806
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 4: it's being pushed or people are being paid to post that,

807
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 4: or it's this narrative, and then it's a wind tunnel

808
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: and on social get leave. Yeah, it's bizarre. It's so crazy.

809
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, honestly, what everyone should do is filter

810
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: your comments.

811
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you have to.

812
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to see it.

813
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 3: And people get mad when you do that, but I

814
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: don't care. It's your cyberbullying people.

815
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 4: Why would It's just because people have influence or money

816
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 4: or fame, It doesn't mean that what you're doing isn't wrong.

817
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: Like, we still feelings, we're still we're still people, and we.

818
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: Would never go comment on someone's picture you're fat, ugly

819
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: and kill yourself.

820
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: Like, it's just it's bizarre.

821
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: So he literally just wanted to try to destroy your

822
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: life or try to hurt you in Yeah, as in

823
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: the best way that he could.

824
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

825
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: And I barely even said anything like about him on

826
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: social media. No, you just talked about my experience when

827
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 4: I could have said a lot more.

828
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 3: I'm sure you could have crazy.

829
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: How many dates with a guy before you would offer

830
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: to split the bill?

831
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 4: I'm like, I feel like I sometimes want to pick

832
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: it up on the on the first take. Why do

833
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: I feel like you would so do that? I feel

834
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 4: like I do that as I just need to assert dominance.

835
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: I feel do not do that. I know, but I

836
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 4: don't really care.

837
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: I know, but I feel you need to be treated,

838
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: you know.

839
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 4: I know, but I feel okay if they if they

840
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 4: don't offer, that's weird. But if they offer, I'll be like, oh,

841
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: we could split it. Yeah, I just feel bad. I

842
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 4: always feel bad.

843
00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: I know.

844
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if they don't offer to even take

845
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: the bill, then I would just take it and pay

846
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, but then that would probably be the

847
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: last time I saw the Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's chivalrous.

848
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: Would you ever not date a guy based on his

849
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: zodiac sign?

850
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 3: I know I'm a Gemini, and I know everywhere eats geminis,

851
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 3: so my dad's as.

852
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: When I stopped learning about them, I'm like, Okay, if

853
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: no one likes me, I don't want to really learn

854
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: about any of the other ones.

855
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: My dad's a Gemini, really, yeah, I hate him exactly.

856
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: It's probably great.

857
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: No, he is good time.

858
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 3: But you guys are very.

859
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: Like one minute cool, one minute. I mean, maybe you're not.

860
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: But my dad's like one minute he's like the funnest

861
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: person ever, and then like one minute he's like.

862
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: A flip of a switch. I'm like, dude, what is

863
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: wrong with I.

864
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,479
Speaker 4: Definitely have two personalities where it's either I'm in go mode,

865
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 4: fun mode, or I just I think it's I'm introverted

866
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: or ex diverted. I either want to be inside of

867
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 4: my house like curled up, don't want to talk to anyone,

868
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: or I want to be a social butterfly.

869
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is weird. People are like, what version are

870
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: we going to get this? Yeah? No, I yeah, that's

871
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: my dad too. What are you?

872
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: I'm a Capricorn, I'm January. I'm January.

873
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: The only reason why I knew what much Gemen I

874
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: was because because my dad is one.

875
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: But I'm January. I don't know.

876
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: Apparently Capricords are hardworking, motivated, yes, queen, But all right,

877
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on Casual Chaos.

878
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 2: This is such a fun podcast.

879
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 3: Happy for you. I can't wait to see your new show.

880
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: Thank you. I missed you.

881
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: Fuh this is so fun.

882
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: Buys. Bye