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Speaker 1: On this week's the Group Chat, we are talking all
Speaker 1: things combine as we get ready to head to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Every player gets asked who have you met with or
Speaker 1: who have you spoken to? And it gets treated as
Speaker 1: if it's like this like breaking news. It's like, Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: so and so player just said that they've met with
Speaker 1: the Panthers, right, and it's like they're going to meet
Speaker 1: with pretty much everybody and then stick around towards the
Speaker 1: end where the guys play a game of NFL Combine
Speaker 1: Participant or Rapper Combine participants, Combine participants. He's a combine participates.
Speaker 1: No rapper. Here's the thing. No rapper has come from Indianapolis. Yes,
Speaker 1: we have that in so much more, including Will embarrassing himself.
Speaker 1: On this week's the Group Chat, You've been added to
Speaker 1: the Group Chat with your friends Caroline, can Max Enson
Speaker 1: and Will Brian. Everybody, it's the Group Chat. Caroline Maxwell,
Speaker 1: You're three best friends that you've ever had are sitting
Speaker 1: here on Puts today Thursday. It's my dad's birthday last Thursday, February.
Speaker 1: I have wished him a happy birthday, but we'll do
Speaker 1: it publicly here. Happy birthday, John Can, Happy birthday, Big one. Okay,
Speaker 1: the big One. I can say that on there because
Speaker 1: he's my dad. He's he's been a big part of
Speaker 1: this year of the group chat recurring character. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: really I'm still kind of mad at didn't get the
Speaker 1: coaching job, to be honest, Yeah, has he taken that.
Speaker 1: It was tough. It was as a family. It was
Speaker 1: really hard. Um, but you know, we we believe in
Speaker 1: Matt rule. So if you're gonna lose to somebody, lose
Speaker 1: a Matt rule. You know. He was in there at
Speaker 1: the end though, So happy birthday to Dad. And we're
Speaker 1: getting ready for the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Indiana.
Speaker 1: You guys excited, Well, well, you're not going, this is
Speaker 1: this is also, this is also we're excited to go
Speaker 1: and then wait, oh wait, well is not going not going,
Speaker 1: but I'm going. I'm going. I'm having some fun to
Speaker 1: tell us what we were doing while we're going to Well, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all are going to hang out in you know, boardrooms
Speaker 1: and convention halls. I'm going skiing gosh, so yeah, and
Speaker 1: that'd be fun. When's the last time he's skied? Uh?
Speaker 1: Seventh grade? So what do we what do we expect
Speaker 1: from you on the slopes this weekend? Probably a lot
Speaker 1: of the like the pizza thing. We're going to be
Speaker 1: taking a sub bunny bunny hill. I mean I'm trying
Speaker 1: to no, I mean not that. I mean there's some greens.
Speaker 1: I'll do some greens, and so you feel pretty confident
Speaker 1: that you can take the lift up for your first run.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to go on the little
Speaker 1: slope to get your feet wetting. So I think that
Speaker 1: there's a slope near where we're going to be where
Speaker 1: you can just start at the top so I can
Speaker 1: go down it without having to get off the lift first.
Speaker 1: Are you going to ski or snowboard? Ski? Okay, you'll
Speaker 1: be fine on the lift. Then yeah, we're gonna need
Speaker 1: some content from this. Make sure you don't have to
Speaker 1: post any of this, but when you just send it
Speaker 1: to you, there's some there's some internal group chats that
Speaker 1: I feel like for some reason, I feel like will
Speaker 1: in like ski years just also going to be very
Speaker 1: amusing so we're just gonna need to see the full fit,
Speaker 1: the goggles and everything. Gosh, no, that's why I'm laughing
Speaker 1: because I just pictured it in my head. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be so fun. Well, while he's going to what West
Speaker 1: Virginia that we're going, he's going to West Virginia. We're
Speaker 1: heading up, not in the same direction, but ish we're going.
Speaker 1: You're going north. Have you scheduled the lift for I
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it, but if I was told I
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Speaker 1: do I would do an extra big lift. But that's
Speaker 1: because we only love lift because they're not just because
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Speaker 1: reason why we love them. When we love them because
Speaker 1: they can get you anywhere. So just skip the hassle
Speaker 1: of finding or paying for parking or going to the
Speaker 1: airport and getting on a plane and just take lift everywhere.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Lift And even though we're not going to
Speaker 1: take you to the Combine, we are going there. We're flying. However,
Speaker 1: I got a weather notification on my flight about trying
Speaker 1: to change it. I know you're you're flying out tonight,
Speaker 1: right tomorrow. Okay, so you have the weather here in Charlotte,
Speaker 1: this huge snowstorm, snowstorm is coming. It's already kind of
Speaker 1: like cold rain now, which is just going to shut
Speaker 1: down the schools for that. I know it Isn't that
Speaker 1: about as bad as it's kidding? I heard we might
Speaker 1: get an inch? Yeah, maybe too. So I hope you
Speaker 1: have your milk and bread because I get ready. Well, well,
Speaker 1: I know you can't really participate in like this question,
Speaker 1: but just for fun, if you want to make something
Speaker 1: up for it, Max, what's the coldest you've ever been
Speaker 1: at the Combine? Have you been two years ago? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I was. I was out there for a
Speaker 1: year where the snow was coming down, um pretty much
Speaker 1: the entire time I was out there. I don't remember
Speaker 1: how cold it was, but I'm pretty sure it was
Speaker 1: probably like eighteen something like that. Twenty you know, your
Speaker 1: typical February in India. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: the wind on a couple of those streets get very
Speaker 1: like a wind tunnel and you just feel like you
Speaker 1: can't escape it. Are you excited, Matt? Yeah? Matt? Are
Speaker 1: you ready? Are you going to have like everything packed?
Speaker 1: The issue is getting it back? Yeah? He was really good.
Speaker 1: He nailed the packing part of great at that. It's
Speaker 1: the it's the getting it back. I think since we're
Speaker 1: flying with not the team, I think I'll be able
Speaker 1: to handle this. Yeah, you'll just know, you'll be able
Speaker 1: to check into your flight and know when it is exactly.
Speaker 1: I get that. I get that. Yeah, the whole gang
Speaker 1: is going except for Will, which just makes this bit
Speaker 1: even better. That's just unscripted content. We didn't have to
Speaker 1: come up with that. Will my will my normal hoodie
Speaker 1: be enough? Or is it going to be like you
Speaker 1: gotta layer up there? Right? So? Is this a serious question? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're just bringing a hoodie? Oh No, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I normally just like where hoodies and stuff? Is that
Speaker 1: going to be to bring a jacket? The thing is,
Speaker 1: I think all my heavy jackets are still like where
Speaker 1: I'm from. I didn't think I brought him matt jacket
Speaker 1: before we go, although I do think it's not supposed
Speaker 1: to be that bad while So you get in on Monday,
Speaker 1: Monday night, Okay, you're fine because it's only going to
Speaker 1: get bad right when you're leaving. You leave Thursday, you're fine,
Speaker 1: except for on Wednesday. It's supposed to snow a little bit.
Speaker 1: But no, I mean you're looking at fifty degrees Monday Tuesday,
Speaker 1: forty on Wednesday. And then what about what about what
Speaker 1: about when he's hitting the town at night. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: getting in loads of twenty five that's brutal. Might require
Speaker 1: a jacket. Have you not worn a jacket in Charlotte yet? No,
Speaker 1: it's all all the time foodie season when you're walking
Speaker 1: over to the convention center in the morning. But he
Speaker 1: can all he can take the wind tunnels, canny, Well,
Speaker 1: you can't there. There is actually what hotel I think.
Speaker 1: I think on the inside. You can just walk around
Speaker 1: in Indi from like one side, not the entire city
Speaker 1: like Menneapolis, but you can walk walks. You can walk
Speaker 1: from hotel to convention center through a skywalk. I'll just
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah. So yeah, if you're gonna do that,
Speaker 1: you just need a T shirt. Then you don't even
Speaker 1: need would, yes, but the lay of the land. That's
Speaker 1: what we're going to give you here for the NFL Combine. UM.
Speaker 1: And this is a fun exercise because Matt has never
Speaker 1: been before, so we have told him many things about
Speaker 1: the combine, but this this might be fun. If you
Speaker 1: have any questions about it's the same questions that the
Speaker 1: fans out there have so asked them. Please alright, so
Speaker 1: lay the lamp for the combine. The way that it works.
Speaker 1: Everyone arrives ish on Monday, and then Tuesday is when
Speaker 1: Matt Rule is going to speak. I'm excited about this one.
Speaker 1: He's gonna do the whole we call it a car wash,
Speaker 1: but it's when he just goes through all of the
Speaker 1: different media entities. So he'll speak at the podium in
Speaker 1: the afternoon and then go around to a couple of
Speaker 1: the other big sets. NBC is normally there with their
Speaker 1: Pro Football talk um. ESPN of course has a big
Speaker 1: set and if our network all that jazz, so look
Speaker 1: for that on Tuesday. Also on Tuesday, we're back might
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I'll still be in the mountains. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be driving back sore. He's going to be so sore.
Speaker 1: If I'm only sore and not broken, I will be
Speaker 1: happy with sore. I get that. But we are going
Speaker 1: to do a edition of the group chat from Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: so that'll be fun. We hopefully you're going to have
Speaker 1: some cool things for you guys. UM. If not, then
Speaker 1: you'll just get you know, one of these you know,
Speaker 1: But we are planning on that on Tuesday. UM. Wednesday
Speaker 1: will be a bunch of other just daily content. This
Speaker 1: is when mock drafts come to life and you start
Speaker 1: to see these guys and see these players. I'm doing
Speaker 1: some things, not playing, but they are doing things. They're
Speaker 1: doing something athletically. Did you guys see the new drills
Speaker 1: that are happening? What are the new drills? There's new drills,
Speaker 1: the new new This was on Twitter today. This updates
Speaker 1: some things. This was some content that I wasn't sure.
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was going to learn this today.
Speaker 1: But according to Jordan's red Um, who is he's with
Speaker 1: the Draft Network. He said that these are the new
Speaker 1: combine additions, uh smoke routes for quarterbacks and wide receivers.
Speaker 1: You know what that is? So I guess you know,
Speaker 1: like when the quarterbacks go through their passing portion. They're
Speaker 1: just going to add that to the I believe, so okay,
Speaker 1: and then O line, D line and tighten sled push
Speaker 1: for yea, it says for two to five yards. I
Speaker 1: think they just want to see that initial contact five yards.
Speaker 1: Defensive line timed figure eight bin drill going to be
Speaker 1: a new time drill. Okay, so that one um dbs
Speaker 1: and wide receivers timed dou W and gauntlet offensive line
Speaker 1: screen drills for screenplays. I thought that was pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: And apparently they are getting rid of the offensive line
Speaker 1: rabbit mirror drill that is I know that is one
Speaker 1: of the classics though, although the down is the best obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that one. You guys didn't get to see my
Speaker 1: movement there. And then this is the one that I
Speaker 1: think is just heartbreaking, the defensive line shuffle bag touch.
Speaker 1: It will be the same, it's changing, and that's too
Speaker 1: much change without the shuffle bag touch. Yeah, Max, are
Speaker 1: you good at the shuffle bag touch? Me? I feel
Speaker 1: like you'd be you'd be swift. I'm a big three
Speaker 1: cone drill guy. That's that's my jam. This was all
Speaker 1: these changes were first reported by well, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was first. But Sports Illustrated has a whole
Speaker 1: article on it, and here's what they say. The bench
Speaker 1: press might be killed next. That's interesting because guys have
Speaker 1: gotten hurt doing that, and so you didn't wonder at
Speaker 1: what point was that going to become something where if
Speaker 1: it's costing these guys millions of dollars in their draft stock.
Speaker 1: I think I remember like the ohiuse States center Billy Price,
Speaker 1: it happened to him, and a lot of guys have
Speaker 1: just stopped doing it. Yeah, and so not not shocked
Speaker 1: to hear that, because you know there's a lot of
Speaker 1: stake for these kids. Yeah, interesting, that's crazy. Jeff Foster,
Speaker 1: he's the president of the National Football Scouting Uh, that's
Speaker 1: who puts on the combine. He said, it's easier to
Speaker 1: name the things that have not changed, and that's true.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things to do with Combined is
Speaker 1: to talk to like the Peter kings Um, all of
Speaker 1: those guys that have been covering this thing since it began.
Speaker 1: There were eight of them. There were eight media members
Speaker 1: at the first combine, and now there's two years ago
Speaker 1: there were over three credential media. It's crazy. So that'll
Speaker 1: that'll kind of be the lay of the land. And
Speaker 1: then Thursday is the last day that really most of
Speaker 1: the media and coaches and all of those are there
Speaker 1: because that Thursday night, UM, and there we mean in
Speaker 1: the convention center talking to the media because Thursday night
Speaker 1: begins the on the field testing. Something new this year
Speaker 1: is it is now in primetime. This is when you
Speaker 1: know that the sports world is, um not busy, because
Speaker 1: we now have grown not well they're grown men in
Speaker 1: shorts running around over not over as mini bags anymore.
Speaker 1: They are running over bags and just jumping and yep,
Speaker 1: the underwear underwear Olympics. It's been Olympics. Yes, So that'll
Speaker 1: be starting on Thursday night, and then you'll see content
Speaker 1: all throughout Friday and Saturday, UM, in Sunday going and
Speaker 1: then I believe the comment officially in Monday or Tuesday
Speaker 1: of that following week with the DBS correct, We don't
Speaker 1: know Sunday. I think it's Monday. I think there are
Speaker 1: three hundred participants that go through this thing. The DBS
Speaker 1: are the final group to go. UM. But by that point,
Speaker 1: as content, as content collectors, we've got what we need
Speaker 1: in h do you have here? Here's my question, do
Speaker 1: you have the biggest combine? Pet peeve? I do? Where
Speaker 1: do I begin? Now? What's yours? Mine is every player
Speaker 1: gets asked who have you met with? Or who have
Speaker 1: you spoken to? And it gets treated as if it's
Speaker 1: like this like breaking news. It's like, Okay, so and
Speaker 1: so player just said that they've met with the Panthers, right,
Speaker 1: and it's like they're going to meet with pretty much everybody,
Speaker 1: and it just gets people make such a big deal
Speaker 1: out of it, and it's like he's met with and
Speaker 1: it's like they're going to meet with them. They're acting
Speaker 1: me with him here, they'll probably be with him in it.
Speaker 1: And I mean there's so many Yeah, there's so many
Speaker 1: formal informal running into in the hallways. Like I hate that.
Speaker 1: I think my pet peeve is are you the best
Speaker 1: blank in this draft? It's asked a lot of the combine.
Speaker 1: There's six or seven podiums and those are where the
Speaker 1: top players from each position group go. And it never fails.
Speaker 1: They are asked, are you the best quarterback in this
Speaker 1: draft class? What do you expect him to say? No?
Speaker 1: I think two is a little better. No. They all
Speaker 1: go in. But then it kind of makes them look
Speaker 1: like cocky and and so if you were coaching a prospect,
Speaker 1: like let's say you were representing, how would you coach
Speaker 1: them to answer that question? I think I would just
Speaker 1: look back and be like, why, yes, I think I'm
Speaker 1: very talented. I'm not like I think I would. I mean,
Speaker 1: if I was no only coach, I would just say
Speaker 1: just answer the question and just you know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I'm super talented. I think here are my strengths
Speaker 1: and move on. If if I am, ever, I will
Speaker 1: never ask that question. And if someone that works for
Speaker 1: me ask that question. Yeah, That's the thing about it too,
Speaker 1: is like all these guys are coached really hard on
Speaker 1: how to answer these questions. Like it's a big part
Speaker 1: of the deal is, you know, preparing them for two interviews,
Speaker 1: one with the media and then the other with the
Speaker 1: you know, the football staff that's going to be having.
Speaker 1: How long did those go? Like fifteen minutes? Now where
Speaker 1: they get with these guys. So it's a lot of
Speaker 1: coaching that's going on. Here's what kind of questions you're
Speaker 1: gonna face, Here's how we want you to answer them.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of a frustrating thing for what we
Speaker 1: do too, is feeling like a lot of these things
Speaker 1: are so rehearsed and you're here in the same kind
Speaker 1: of thing over, but the same question gets asked year
Speaker 1: after year. I'm like, guys, it's just nice when the
Speaker 1: guys are comfortable enough in their own skin to be themselves.
Speaker 1: I think that's obviously you have to be able to
Speaker 1: represent yourself in the right way still, but that's always
Speaker 1: really refreshing when the guys at the podium and he's
Speaker 1: confident and he knows that he's, you know, not worried
Speaker 1: about tripping over his words. He's just being himself. And
Speaker 1: unfortunately that's a little rare. This. I do kind of
Speaker 1: like though, when like an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman,
Speaker 1: they are huge human beings and you can tell they're
Speaker 1: just a little nervous. There's just something about that that
Speaker 1: is so delicate, and I just want to beat on
Speaker 1: the people that take advantage of it, because there are
Speaker 1: some people that will then kind of lean in and
Speaker 1: be like, okay, like he's nervous. He might say something here,
Speaker 1: I want to stop it. Does do they still do
Speaker 1: their wonder lick test? They do? So, speaking of which
Speaker 1: I've pulled up a sample wonder lick, what a segue,
Speaker 1: and I think it's time that we ask a question. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm ready. I had no idea the sample wonder lit question.
Speaker 1: This is real, Yeah, this is this is happening. Gertrude
Speaker 1: is taller than Janelle. Nancy is taller than Gertrude. Who
Speaker 1: is the tallest Nancy? Yeah, it's not fair. Her name
Speaker 1: is Nancy. Nancy's always the tale. Uh, this is a lot,
Speaker 1: all right. Art is to wall as coffee cup is
Speaker 1: to table table. Yeah one was like that. I mean
Speaker 1: it was a five there's it was a multiple choice
Speaker 1: and like couboard was the answer like covered was one
Speaker 1: of the choices. Okay, so it is multiple choice. Well
Speaker 1: that one was. I don't know. I think there are
Speaker 1: these are all like sample different things. It is the
Speaker 1: wonder like is more so how quick can you think?
Speaker 1: Not how difficult the question can be, because I think
Speaker 1: there's it's it's it's a timed test and as far
Speaker 1: as you get in the test. Also it goes into
Speaker 1: the score. Do we know who on the Panthers roster
Speaker 1: who had the highest that I should have asked. I
Speaker 1: should have asked this question before the podcast began, but
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be as fun. We'll look that up to
Speaker 1: be determined. It's always offensive lineman or a quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: typically I could see Taylor Motlin have scoring having scored extremely.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, Taylor, but I bet gvrst Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean obviously the IVY League. Yeah, you'd expect. So
Speaker 1: does that seg into the next thing or do we
Speaker 1: need to keep moving? No? Segway away? Do we ever
Speaker 1: keep moving on this? Right? So Ye says, we're talking
Speaker 1: about these drills? Do you guys know who had the
Speaker 1: most bench, the fastest forty, the fastest cone time, three
Speaker 1: cone drill time. I don't know, I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: Did Nick Fadden have the he's talking you're talking about Panthers,
Speaker 1: only Panthers. I thought you were talking about him. I
Speaker 1: thought this was a joke. His name. I was like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: where's Matt coming with this joke? So, Matt, do you
Speaker 1: want to take a guess which Panther has the fastest
Speaker 1: forty ever? Offensive defense? He's offense. He's on the team currently. Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess see him. See, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know anybody. Dante, he's close Curtis. Curtis Curtis had a
Speaker 1: four three one, Dante had a four three two the
Speaker 1: next year, and Dantes was tied for the fastest in
Speaker 1: that in that season. Oh that's a good one. So
Speaker 1: how about this, This one's funny. The guy with the
Speaker 1: fastest shuttle drill time, also known as the five ten
Speaker 1: five drill five yards ten yards five yards is former
Speaker 1: quarterback Randy Fasani. Two. Definitely would have guessed that. Well.
Speaker 1: I was really excited about that. I mean like what, like,
Speaker 1: how how is the fastest shuttle drills? I mean like
Speaker 1: how is he almost a like two tenths of a
Speaker 1: second faster than DJ Moore? Quick? Yeah? I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't have a great memory for Panthers history with different
Speaker 1: combine events, but there are a few over the years
Speaker 1: that I that do stick out. Like John Ross running
Speaker 1: the forty ran like like a four two. I mean
Speaker 1: that that was a huge hype around just him. I
Speaker 1: remember Um Griffin, the Seahawks long backer, doing the bench.
Speaker 1: That was like a huge thing. I remember there was
Speaker 1: like one hare was a crowd of people watching it,
Speaker 1: and that was a really cool thing. So every once
Speaker 1: in a while, there like McCaffrey put on his show
Speaker 1: when he did you know, he ran like the receiver
Speaker 1: routes in addition to do all the stuff out of
Speaker 1: the backfield, and everybody was just in awe of how
Speaker 1: he caught the football. So, yeah, it was usually a
Speaker 1: moment or two each year where somebody does something where
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, damn, this is the moment of this
Speaker 1: year's combine. Do you like that? Let's do this, Let's
Speaker 1: let's go into We're going to get more into this
Speaker 1: on Tuesday when we're there. But who were some names
Speaker 1: that you max or will have been seeing constantly come
Speaker 1: up in these mock drafts, just for you guys out
Speaker 1: there that want to pay attention to do the combine
Speaker 1: and want to know who Who should we be googling
Speaker 1: and all of these things are looking for who? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did our first mock draft report, um, which fans
Speaker 1: can expect on Panthers dot Com really all the way
Speaker 1: up through the draft at this point. Usually once a
Speaker 1: week we will crank that out and just give you
Speaker 1: an update on what the mock drafts are saying. And
Speaker 1: really there are two names right off the bat that
Speaker 1: have been connected to the Panthers significantly more than any others.
Speaker 1: And that's Auburn defensive tackle Derrick Brown and Clemson linebacker
Speaker 1: slash safety hybrid Isaiah simmons Um, both really good players.
Speaker 1: You look at the Panthers defense and you know, especially
Speaker 1: with the loss of Luke Kickley and kind of how
Speaker 1: they're going to reshape things. Either one of those guys,
Speaker 1: you could see why they would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: But um, very early in the process. But those are
Speaker 1: the two Caroline far and away that you see time
Speaker 1: and time again, and I've seen Kin Law from South
Speaker 1: Carolina another. I mean, you're definitely looking it seems like
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, both you know, kind of
Speaker 1: on the line and linebackers since retired. I think some
Speaker 1: of them might have to do with just the way
Speaker 1: the board seems to be setting up. I mean, now,
Speaker 1: again granted it's very early, but generally I would say
Speaker 1: the most value that matraft provide and is at least
Speaker 1: giving an idea of what like the top players is
Speaker 1: going to be. They might not have the team's right
Speaker 1: and the orders is never really all that close, but
Speaker 1: the actual players that are going to be selected, you
Speaker 1: can feel pretty sure that's that's what we're gonna be looking.
Speaker 1: This is the top ten guy. This is especially in
Speaker 1: the top ten. So where the Panthers are at seven,
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear there's only six teams ahead of them
Speaker 1: right now, so there's not that many names you've got
Speaker 1: to get through before the Panthers are on the clock.
Speaker 1: So as far as just the type of the caliber
Speaker 1: of player and which player is going to be in
Speaker 1: that seven to ten range barring trades, of course, um yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think you know, Brown and Simmons are
Speaker 1: right in that wheelhouse. Um, and they happen to be
Speaker 1: defensive players, which you know what's certainly help and Panthers
Speaker 1: need help on offense too. But um, the way things
Speaker 1: are shaking out right now defensively, that's that's where those
Speaker 1: prospects seem to be lining up, at least so far.
Speaker 1: The thing I love about the combine is this is
Speaker 1: when obviously mock drafts just start to take over. And
Speaker 1: I love to hear the experts so called when you
Speaker 1: go ask them, all, right, who do you think it is?
Speaker 1: They will sound so confident that I walk away thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're right. And then you go talk
Speaker 1: to the next expert and he has something totally different,
Speaker 1: but he one believes in it. I think that's the
Speaker 1: most interesting part about the combine is how many different
Speaker 1: mock draft experts that this is all they do and
Speaker 1: this is what they live for. They're not Yes, they
Speaker 1: cover the season, but there are at certain entities people
Speaker 1: that only do this, and it is it's fascinated to see.
Speaker 1: And like you said, they normally get the position right
Speaker 1: like the writing on the wall for maybe the first
Speaker 1: and second round, but anything after that. And some of
Speaker 1: these guys do all round drafts. It's crazy, like you're
Speaker 1: What's also funny to me, though, is how much like
Speaker 1: groupthink eventually comes into play with mock drafts, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's like everybody just sort of agrees
Speaker 1: with certain slots for players, and invariably no one is
Speaker 1: really ever close to being right. Like I think, like
Speaker 1: the highest percentage anyone who really have for like the
Speaker 1: first round and really get like every pick is like
Speaker 1: no higher like or something like that. It's just you
Speaker 1: can't anticipate the trades and all the movement. It totally
Speaker 1: jacks up the whole thing. But you look at enough
Speaker 1: of these mock drafts, and so many of them are
Speaker 1: very are really similar with who they have slotted. It
Speaker 1: just sort of becomes like accepted, thinking of, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna go to Jacksonville or Indianapolis wherever
Speaker 1: it is. And that's always been kind of interesting to
Speaker 1: me because something that's so random and we know is
Speaker 1: going to have so many different moving pieces, a lot
Speaker 1: of them end up sort of looking similar. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: did a piece last year right before the draft with
Speaker 1: kind of like a roundup of where all the mock drafts,
Speaker 1: like the total number and the guy that was mocked
Speaker 1: to us the most was Cleveland Ferrell, right, who went
Speaker 1: way before anybody thought he was gonna want to top
Speaker 1: five to the Raiders, Right, and then you had Montes Sweat, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Andre Dillard and those are the names again
Speaker 1: that you heard over and over over and over. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always been interesting to me. Brian Burns. It is.
Speaker 1: This is when it starts to get really fun. But
Speaker 1: in the spirit of uh, the Combine and the three
Speaker 1: hundred participants that go there, and that there's no way
Speaker 1: anyone knows them all, We're gonna play a little game.
Speaker 1: So welcome to the big segment in this podcast called
Speaker 1: Combine Participant or Rapper. I'm going to say a name
Speaker 1: and give you three facts about this person. You have
Speaker 1: to tell me is that person a rapper? Or is
Speaker 1: that person participating in this year's NFL comm All the
Speaker 1: facts are true? Uh, yeah, they're true. You'll see define
Speaker 1: and true. Some of them are skewed a bit, but
Speaker 1: I'll explain them for the back end, but they're I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're pretty much true. Pretty much all right. So the
Speaker 1: first one, our first contestant, Contestant number one is Kin Duckworth.
Speaker 1: His friends call him k Dot. He's engaged to his
Speaker 1: high school sweetheart, and when asked about his combine diet
Speaker 1: and how he's getting ready, he said, don't talk to
Speaker 1: me about no raisin brand Wheati's stop it. When talking
Speaker 1: about his breakfast of what he's been preparing, how he's
Speaker 1: been preparing for the combine. Is that a rapper or
Speaker 1: an NFL Combine participant? I mean, a little rapper is
Speaker 1: not preparing for the combine. But I'm pretty sure there isn't.
Speaker 1: What is it, Ken Duckworth, Kin Duckworth, I'm thinking rapper? Rapper?
Speaker 1: Definitely you're wrong Kendrake Lamar Ducklett. He did say the quote,
Speaker 1: don't talk to me about no raising brand, we stop it.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't about the combine. That's where it is.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. That's where the lives are coming from. I
Speaker 1: felt like that would be a really great verse, so
Speaker 1: I figured it. Well. He said that in an interview
Speaker 1: when when he loves sugary cereal apparently, and so someone said, well,
Speaker 1: what about like some healthy some raising He said, raisin brand.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to me about no raisin brand. Stop it,
Speaker 1: which was just a great line, all right. The second one,
Speaker 1: Lavante Bellamy, he is called the Monster his hometown Indianapolis. Yea.
Speaker 1: And on the side, he's a money man. That's what
Speaker 1: he's what he likes to talk about money. He's a
Speaker 1: money man. Combine participants, m say to combine participants, He's
Speaker 1: a combine participates. No rapper, here's the thing. No rapper
Speaker 1: has come from Indianapolis. Yes, that she's not going to
Speaker 1: go like straight back, like back and forth. So I
Speaker 1: think she's gonna try to throw us off. Two rappers
Speaker 1: rock paper scissors. I think I'm okay. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's a rock paper scissors I was getting changed. I
Speaker 1: was getting two into my own head. He is called
Speaker 1: he's a running back from Western Michigan and they called
Speaker 1: him the touchdown monster. And the reason he's a money
Speaker 1: he's a money man. He was a finance major. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Number three Derrington Evans. His nickname is l A. He
Speaker 1: can solve in a roomix cube and he had a
Speaker 1: major image change in. What school did he go through?
Speaker 1: I didn't say, but I thought I could trick her
Speaker 1: into saying, Virginia Tech. What do you think, rapper? I
Speaker 1: think it's a rapper too. I'm going three for three
Speaker 1: and rappers player. He's a player. I feel like you
Speaker 1: could see everyone can't he's cheating. He running back from
Speaker 1: app State. We got to get the local. One thing
Speaker 1: he's major image change in he cut his dreads. He
Speaker 1: had dreads the first years in college. He cut his
Speaker 1: dreads for his last two years. So there we go,
Speaker 1: all right. The next one, she would have said app State,
Speaker 1: we would have gotten it. Yeah, the next one, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my bad. Aubrey Graham, his father played in the CFL.
Speaker 1: He was a child actor and he's already beaten many
Speaker 1: records of some legends. He's already up there on the record. Rapper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a rapper the record that you're playing off the record? Yeah, record.
Speaker 1: Do you know who what rapper? This is Aubrey Graham. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Drake, Aubrey Drake Graham. His father did not play
Speaker 1: in the CFL, but his father was in the music
Speaker 1: industry in Canada. So I kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: like same, Yeah, you know, I lied on that one,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of the same. So it's on
Speaker 1: the spirit of the game, as you said. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's exactly all right. The last probably should have known
Speaker 1: Drake's name was Aubrey Graham though. Yeah, well that's what
Speaker 1: I thought. That one was going to be too easy
Speaker 1: the score, right, I have three, I've only got I
Speaker 1: got the first one right, and then that one. All
Speaker 1: I know is me and Will have the same. I've
Speaker 1: got to be honest. You just have to say it.
Speaker 1: Last I thought Will would be terrible at this game.
Speaker 1: That's just because that's just because you think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be terrible at everything, obviously, but he's not. You have
Speaker 1: to Will, He's not terrible at everything. Okay, you have
Speaker 1: a chance to catch me on this one, Max, So
Speaker 1: you better watch out? All right, So here we go.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Lynn dale Kirk from Cleveland, Ohio. He's the youngest
Speaker 1: participant and in two thousand nineteen was that was his
Speaker 1: breakout here on Breakout Your twenty nineteen rapper Rapper Player
Speaker 1: the Baby, Yeah, let's go the baby. Wait, the babies
Speaker 1: from Cleveland. So it says he's from Cleveland. I thought that.
Speaker 1: I thought that was really good because he's from Charlotte.
Speaker 1: But I think he was born in Cleveland. And you
Speaker 1: have to believe everything you read on the internet, so
Speaker 1: kind of like kind of like Steph Curry, that's what
Speaker 1: he said. Where was he born near Akron? Interesting? All right?
Speaker 1: Last one? Oh, all I can do is tie wheel
Speaker 1: at this point. All right, Um, Jeff Gladney, he's from Texas.
Speaker 1: They call him the Missile and his favorite animal is
Speaker 1: a frog. Well, why don't you got first? He's a player.
Speaker 1: He went to TCU. Oh you're I mean, you do
Speaker 1: feel pretty confis a player? You went to TCU. See.
Speaker 1: I was hoping that whatever he could say, I could
Speaker 1: say the other that's the only chance I have to
Speaker 1: catch him. But he's right, it's a player. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say a rapper just in case it's a players. Did
Speaker 1: you know that or did you just go off my Yeah?
Speaker 1: I thought that would give it away to all right,
Speaker 1: so what it will just win yet major upset. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm actually not surprised. I had a feeling We'll will
Speaker 1: be good at this. I thought, will why, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just did just really cool East. I feel it
Speaker 1: really cool today. I don't believe you Max is just
Speaker 1: trying to curry brownie points after after he lost. I
Speaker 1: do not believe you Will is the winner. I did.
Speaker 1: It was fun to go look up rappers real names.
Speaker 1: I have to give Zach Going's a shout out on
Speaker 1: here though, because I did ask him. I said, this
Speaker 1: is my idea. I wanted to do these names, but
Speaker 1: I need the names to come from the same group,
Speaker 1: and apparently they did this when they were at you
Speaker 1: and c. We need to turn the tables on Caroline
Speaker 1: and have her play next time. Yeah, oh, I thought
Speaker 1: you guys were about to surprise me with a game. No,
Speaker 1: we're not. Next episode of the group Chat, we will
Speaker 1: have you be a player, the only player in the game,
Speaker 1: and that's fair enough. With the next group chat is Tuesday.
Speaker 1: It would be from Indianapolis. It'll just be Max and
Speaker 1: I and Matt because our our boy Will here is
Speaker 1: gonna be too sore from falling down the mountain and
Speaker 1: West Virginia from his ski weekend. So everyone say prayers
Speaker 1: for Will and the group that's going with him. We
Speaker 1: will be Ininiannapolis because listen, if you fall, if, yes,
Speaker 1: if you get hurt on a ski trip, it hurts everyone.
Speaker 1: It hurts everyone. Are you guys? It sounds like you
Speaker 1: guys are staying close to the mountain though, so you
Speaker 1: stay in the mountain. Oh so you can ski and
Speaker 1: ski out of your place. That would be great if Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you'll be fine. Yeah, it'll be totally fine. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be great. Pizza, pizza, French pizza, pizza, French fry,
Speaker 1: pizza frenchy. I bet you're gonna be kind of good.
Speaker 1: So I'm a little worried. So I have to pick
Speaker 1: up the boots tomorrow. So I went to rent the
Speaker 1: boots at like the Alpine Ski Center down on East
Speaker 1: Boulevard or whatever, and the like a former a former
Speaker 1: staff member actually talk to me about how big my
Speaker 1: calfs are. So it fits my foot just fine. But
Speaker 1: my calfs are so large normal workplace conversations, right, They're
Speaker 1: so big that they don't really fit. I don't want
Speaker 1: to know how that came up. So what how are
Speaker 1: you going to compensate. I'm gonna I'm just I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hold my breath the whole time. I think, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They don't go all the way up your calf. I
Speaker 1: mean they're gonna stop your calf. They go, they go
Speaker 1: a little bit into my calf. They're so big, so big,
Speaker 1: my calf goes pretty you know, Yeah, this is different.
Speaker 1: I literally, I literally had a coworkers like, well, you
Speaker 1: look like you have huge calves. We were almost out
Speaker 1: of the episode. I mean we were. That's gotta be.
Speaker 1: That's gotta be the weirdest flanks of the better make
Speaker 1: the pro bo. Gosh, guys, we are done with this
Speaker 1: group chat. We will talk to you guys next week
Speaker 1: Tuesday from the combine. And like I said, prat a
Speaker 1: well fo