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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Pot All right, here we go fifteen twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: Goodness, please stumbled and football the Lateral turn a canter

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Speaker 2: on the episode, don't you believe I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Gonna table up the field the night?

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Speaker 2: Holly God, it's not the size of the dog in

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Speaker 1: It's the size of the fight in the dog. What's

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Speaker 1: up the gener nation? Welcome to the Big Bets on

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Speaker 1: Campus Podcast. This is the College Football Betting Kickoff Episode

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Speaker 1: Part two. I'm stucky in joining me as a fellow

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Speaker 1: BBOs Coast Colin Wilson. I'm assuming most of you already

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Speaker 1: listen to part one. Let's just dive right back into

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Speaker 1: it with part two. Let's talk hot seat. I will say, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I'll say the ten I'm most interested in from a

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Speaker 1: hot sea perspective. You can tell me if you are

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Speaker 1: great at any Ryan Day, if he loses to Michigan

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Speaker 1: again kidding, there will be some defensive that happens again.

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Speaker 1: Get him out of here, I'll start, Hugh Freeze. Just

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Speaker 1: seems like that souring.

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Speaker 2: They save money for this year. They save their money

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Speaker 2: for this year.

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Speaker 1: So will Cox at col that seems like it's about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why he's still there. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: want to go a different direction. They want to go

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Speaker 2: Ron Rivera.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that seems like it's gonna end very soon.

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Speaker 1: Sadderfield at Sincy like you gotta do something soon, man.

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Speaker 2: And he was eating lunch by himself. A big toll

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Speaker 2: media days. I mean, I don't know that. It's amazing

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Speaker 2: the turn of louis of Louisville and Cincinnati over the

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Speaker 2: past two years. I think it just shows the difference

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Speaker 2: between BRAWM and Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, major, major difference. Two all grouped together are Stoops

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Speaker 1: in norvel They have massive buyouts like if but if

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Speaker 1: like three and nine again, I don't know. Kentucky's a

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Speaker 1: basketball school. I don't think they should put the money

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Speaker 1: towards they're not winning national title football. But if you

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Speaker 1: have another disaster season, do they think about the buyout.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of money here. And then Norvelle, like

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Speaker 1: that is a football school. You can't go like three

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Speaker 1: and nine again. If you go too andinten again, you

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Speaker 1: gotta get him out of there. I don't know they'll

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Speaker 1: find a way to come up with the money. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how because you got to put the money

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Speaker 1: to the program too. But if this ends in a

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Speaker 1: disaster again for novel, like you can't be Florida State

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Speaker 1: and go two ten and then four and twelve, like

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Speaker 1: he's got to get to a bowl and otherwise, I

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Speaker 1: think they're they're finding the money somewhere someone can phone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Humby and Dilfer I think are kind of similar.

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Speaker 1: Like them. I think they would have been gone if

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Speaker 1: in like if this was five years at the I.

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Speaker 2: Think Comby is in way better ship than Dilfer.

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Speaker 1: I think I think this year, Uh, I'm surprised Dilfer

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Speaker 2: I did hear that he was told, you are making

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Speaker 2: this change on offense and you are going to be

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Speaker 2: you're gone, So you're not we lost Ali.

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Speaker 1: Ali went to West Virginia. They want to I don't know,

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Speaker 1: can you afford another complete dumpster fire there? It's be

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Speaker 1: interesting to watch that team away. That team is completely

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Speaker 2: I'll say this I'll save it for the Big Too podcast.

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Speaker 2: I brought Oklahoma save back to their floor of their

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Speaker 2: program level power rating. I still can't get to their

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to watch. There's there's some teams

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Speaker 1: I gotta mention the Virginia schools like Virginian VA Tech,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get to a bowl. Pry like after last

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Speaker 1: I like his coordinator eyes, but it seems like desperation

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Speaker 1: move right like. And then Virginia with Elliott, it's like

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Speaker 1: one is your boy, Samuel Pittman. What do you thought?

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Speaker 1: I mean it's kim number. He gets to where he's safe.

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Speaker 2: If he makes a bowl, he stays, if he wants

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Speaker 2: to stay, and look, he gets that the buyouts getting shorter.

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Speaker 2: There are some things in his contract that gets rewards

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Speaker 2: for five wins. This again is the toughest schedule in

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Speaker 2: I almost think Hunter, your check r ad is creating

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Speaker 2: these schedules to get Pittman out. But we are in

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Speaker 2: the same place at the end of every season, which

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Speaker 2: is who are you going to replace him with? Because

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Speaker 2: when John Tyson decides to break his checkbook open for

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Speaker 2: twenty million dollars for Calipari, that's a statement that basketball

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Speaker 2: that's a statement that the money in this state is

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Speaker 2: going to other programs besides football. We have the worst

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Speaker 2: no one's opening up their checkbook. No one has any belief.

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Speaker 2: Everyone loves Sam, everyone loves them, But I feel like

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Speaker 2: this is the swan song. I feel like t will

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Speaker 2: And then your check is probably already looking for a

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Speaker 2: for the sec POD. I do not have good feelings

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Speaker 1: I feel like what he's stolen valor in uh faetough.

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Speaker 1: You guys are trying to become Lexington not not care

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Speaker 1: about football, not put the money, and you take you

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Speaker 1: get Cali Parry, you take him. You're now trying to

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Speaker 1: Not even care football? Arkansas in the past has never

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to I'm done talking on that. You

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Speaker 2: because you've got that damn jiff of LSU beating us

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Speaker 2: in the College World Series. Like on on on speed dial.

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Speaker 1: You hate LSU this year.

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Speaker 2: The more I messed with, the more on I'm afraid

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Speaker 2: you're gonna PTSD at PTSD with that damn LSU loss

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Speaker 1: You're killing me that that non double play man, Well

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't lose that game. You can't lose

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Speaker 2: Broils would have never let us play that game. He

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Speaker 2: would have never acknowledged our other universities in the state.

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Speaker 1: Everyone roots for Arkansas and that's it all right, Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's it all four corners. If loses to Arkansas State,

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Speaker 2: He's not making out a war memorial. He might as well.

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Speaker 2: He just hit the boat, Just go dug, just get

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Speaker 1: I can't lose that. Pod would be great if that happens.

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Speaker 1: Any other coaching hot seats do you want to mention that?

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Speaker 2: I think the one I want to mention was Lincoln Riley.

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Speaker 2: Like I think people think he's on the hot seat,

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Speaker 2: he's not. There's a lot of national talk about that. Listen.

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Speaker 2: I agree Danton Lynn raised USC from being bottom ten

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Speaker 2: So I don't I think this Lincoln Riley stuff is

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the reasons I like that I like

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Speaker 1: It's like, who are the other teams that play these

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Speaker 1: Something to keep in mind when you're just looking at

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Speaker 2: If Dan Mullen cares, is he just there on a

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Speaker 2: oh by the way Sacramento State, Like if you like

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Speaker 1: wide open. I'm a Baylor guy, been a Bailor guy

432
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: all summer. I mean, every team is like six to

433
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: one to win it. I have a long shot in

434
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. By the way, teaser yeah wait, let's wait, Yeah,

435
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to save it for the Big twelve episode.

436
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: I have a long shot double digits this guy.

437
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: You're coming out with West Virginia, aren't you.

438
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: No, it's not less okay, but uh, I'm the Bailor

439
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: guy unders. I mean, I'm in Colorado BYU. I might,

440
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't know if I want

441
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: to fade DYLI him.

442
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: But by the way, we're the only I think we're

443
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: the only podcast. I didn't like Jake Gretzlaf, so I don't.

444
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 2: I don't think that really mattered to us too. Much.

445
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: Yea, I wish I bet the under when it was out.

446
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: I should have EYU, Like you have sex, you're out,

447
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: so like there was no even if it came out that,

448
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: like you drop the lawsuit, then you have to just

449
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: say like it was consensual, but then you're out anyway,

450
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: So like I should have bet the underwinning and then

451
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: but uh, that obviously got hit hard, kind of like

452
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: the Arizona over. But any thoughts in the Big Twelve.

453
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take a stab on a conference future

454
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: and you said everybody's six to one, they're six to one.

455
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Utah to win the Big Twelve at

456
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: six to one because there's so much that I like

457
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: about besides Beck and Dampier coming in from New Mexico

458
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 2: an offensive line that ranks as a top ten national unit.

459
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: Dam Pierre created fifty four miss tackles on the ground

460
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: at New Mexico last year. If you take how many

461
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: carries he had and you look at what his projection

462
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: would be if he ran as many times as Ashton genty,

463
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: they have the same mistackle force rate per snap. It's

464
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: insane how this kid moves. Once you get past that,

465
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: remember Big twelve plays nine games. They have five at

466
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: home Texas Tech. They're off a bye against Arizona State, Colorado, Sinsey,

467
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: Kansas State. Utah is going to host Kansas State and

468
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: rice Ecles in late November. The Wildcats will be coming

469
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: off back to back travel. The Utes are going to

470
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 2: be off a bye in late November. That is a

471
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: monster game against Kansas State. All the advantages in the

472
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 2: world for Utah. Utah gets a bye week before they

473
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: go to Baylor. That's a huge game. It should be

474
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 2: ten point phaves go into West Virginia and by the way,

475
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't apply to this bet, but that week one

476
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: against Nico and UCLA, I mean you're gonna put Nico

477
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: at uc LA system with a new offensive coordinator against

478
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 2: a four to two five Morgan Scalley, I've already got

479
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: my money in on the US for that game. So

480
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: Utah six to one for Big twelve.

481
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: For me, I'm married about condemn here. Stay healthy for

482
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: a full seasoning what he does, because you need his legs.

483
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: He still can improve as a passer. Yeah, there's some

484
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: deficiencies there, but when he's the most dangerous, especially in

485
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: that offense, you're bringing over his it's gonna be in

486
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: the same scheme, his legs, The schedule is gonna get

487
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: a lot tougher. Now can you hold up? Hate to

488
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: break it to you. We just got over Cam Rising.

489
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be talking about is Dan Fear playing this

490
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: week all season with injuries? Hopefully not? But uh, let's

491
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: go to Big ten similar to SEC, which I don't

492
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: think is a coincidence. Head coaching stability quarterback questions. I mean,

493
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: I think you only have five of the eighteen teams

494
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: have a quarterback that is to presume starter that started

495
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: at the beginning of last year. I think you got

496
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: what Illinois, Penn State, Rutgers, Michigan State were only before

497
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: because USC might have took over late in the year. Oh,

498
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: Rayola is the fifth. Yeah, I like USC, as you

499
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: mentioned before. Is this the year with Nebraska? I kind

500
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: of like Nebraska and that's all I'll say. I'll save

501
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: my future. But Nebraska, I think they can fix their

502
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: special teams, which I think that they might have. Maybe

503
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: they could finally win some close games. I mean that

504
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: the stats for their close games are unfathomable. They've since

505
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: like since twenty eighteen, they've lost like thirty four one

506
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: possession games. The next team is like twenty five by

507
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: any thoughts in the Big Ten.

508
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna save it for the Big Ten podcast,

509
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: but I'll go ahead and get it out there. I'm

510
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: gonna take Michigan to make the Big Ten Championship game

511
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 2: at four to one. It's probably because I don't think

512
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,479
Speaker 2: our app has to make the championshi game, so I'm

513
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: probably going to put it in.

514
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: At all if you can get them up.

515
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So let's talk about Michigan real quick, because

516
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: I really kind of wanted to save the love, but

517
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: I think other people are going to push this number

518
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: a little bit, and uh so I want to get

519
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: out of have it. This is the easiest strength of

520
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: schedule of any Big Ten team by far. No Penn State,

521
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: no Oregon, no Indiana, no Illinois. The game against Ohio

522
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: State is in ann Arbor. Bryce Underwood getting Brent Venable's

523
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: defense o US defense in week two, I think that

524
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: helps prepare him for what is an extremely soft Big

525
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: Ten schedule. I project Michigan is a three t D

526
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: favorite and four straight Big Ten games and late in

527
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: the season. Late in the season, listen to this, they'd

528
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: be twenty one point favorites against Michigan State, Perdue, Northwestern,

529
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: and Maryland. What a cake? I think, could you not

530
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: line them up and knock them down any better? For Michigan,

531
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: they're going to be so fresh towards the end of

532
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: the season, potentially the best defensive front seven and fbs.

533
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 2: Their top two tacklers return at linebacker to having making

534
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: Edges and TJ. Guy and Derek Moore. I have no

535
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: questions about the defense. I think Bryce Underwood is the

536
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: question when does he play? I think he starts day one,

537
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: and I think the experience against Ou and Week two

538
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: and Invenables defense is going to pay off in what

539
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 2: is one of the softest Big Ten schedules you can find.

540
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm not quite there, but we'll say that for a

541
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: Big Ten episode. I do think people are underestimating the

542
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: impact of the loss. That they're into your defensive lineman,

543
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: but their linebacker is gonna go. Their edge rushers would

544
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: be good. Their defense is gonna be good if their

545
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: offense is the question for me, their offensive line, their receivers,

546
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: obviously the quarterback. I don't like their coordinator, but we'll

547
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: argue about that later. Did we have an acc you've already.

548
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: There's my biggest question with the ACC. It's pretty crazy.

549
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: If you go down the list, how many teams do

550
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: you feel there's so many teams where I'm like the

551
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: defensive backs. The secondary is a huge question mark. I

552
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: just look at all the losses you have done. There's

553
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of guys.

554
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: You know.

555
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: Louisville lost Riley. I mean they lost their entire secondary

556
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: of Florida State, they lost Thomas to the NFL. Georgia

557
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: Tech they lost a couple of starters. Miami they bring

558
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: Frederick back, lost everyone else. SMU the safeties are good,

559
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: but they lost McGill and Crossley. Clemson they do return

560
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: a lot, but they lost Nickens to the NFL. Hit

561
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: lost their best corner by far and their best safety

562
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: by far. UNC rebuilt NC State rebuilt Duke. They get

563
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: Rivers who shut down corner, but they lost Stinton and Pickett.

564
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: Moore's back at safety as well. Bot Tech lost Strong

565
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: with the NFL. Three others they're rebuilt. QES has one

566
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: starter back. Virginia lost Sanker, their best safety to the NFL.

567
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: They still experienced at safety. The corners a question wake.

568
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: Rebuilt Cal lose three to the NFL. In the secondary, Yeah, BC,

569
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: they have questions in the trenches, which is worry about

570
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: VC is like one of the ones I feel the

571
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: best about with their secondary. They get some guys back.

572
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: They were hurt, and they had some young guys. I

573
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: think that's the halfway influence. But they had some young

574
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: guys who look good stepping up for injurr guys last

575
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: year and they get everyone back. So a lot of

576
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: questions about the defensive backfields, which I think is going

577
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: to go a long way, and who can figure that

578
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: out in a league that has you know, love Nick

579
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: Jennings now mensa deck Uh what Lopez? Yeah, I mean

580
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: we'll see. There's there's some quarterbacks, some teams that can

581
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: throw it around. Defensive backs is like what I'm really

582
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: trying to figure out this summer. Some quarterback battles that

583
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm watching. I might be selling Duke. To be honest

584
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: with you, I can get into that. In the a SEC.

585
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: I know that they're spending. I know that they ideas

586
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: did a great job in Week one, but you don't

587
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: talk about a team that got lucky. Holy moly, they're

588
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: like seven coin flip games and they won them. All,

589
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to bring off that Northwestern game at Northway.

590
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: You bring it over that Friday night Northwestern game. I'm

591
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: about to throw up on that one too.

592
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: The one game that got unlucky and was SMU but

593
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: like they had had six turnovers in that gay yeah

594
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: so yeah, Hugh. So I don't know how qu S

595
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: gets the six wins, but I don't know, uh BC.

596
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be disastering the trenches cal. I

597
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: think it's just gonna be a dumpster fire. I think

598
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: Wait's gonna be a dumpster fire. And I might sell

599
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: Clemson any thoughts in the ACC. I would have bet

600
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: Clemson not to win the ACC. Is that out there?

601
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's out there?

602
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: Where's where is that? At?

603
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: Ek? But oh, I take that back, there's a to

604
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: not make the playoff, So it really kind of serves

605
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: as the same thing as not winning the ACC. But

606
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: then again they could. Yeah, you're gonna have to look

607
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: for that, uh.

608
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: I.

609
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: And we're gonna have to wait for the ACC podcast

610
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: because I'm between I'm on an angle and I don't

611
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: know how to play it, and I'm kind of waiting

612
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: for the market to mature and to me there is

613
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: a race for second place in this conference in the ACC,

614
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: and the two teams in my opinion are SMU in

615
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: Louisville and s MU. I I think they have a

616
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: very high floor. I don't think their ceiling is as

617
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: high as last year. I don't think they're on the

618
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: edge of the playoff. I think they're more about fifteen

619
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: to sixteen. But their strength to schedule is seventy fourth

620
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 2: easiest in the conference outside of Virginia. They return one

621
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen stars in the offensive line for Kevin Jennings.

622
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: That's the fifteenth highest in the nation. The schedule is

623
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: the star of this team again, Like I was hot

624
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: on them last year, like calling them for make the

625
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: playoff and everybody's laughing at me last year. Like the

626
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: schedule is the star again they started.

627
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: The schedule is always their STARSI schedule.

628
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, Missouri's going down. SMU starts ACC

629
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: play on a bye week hosting Syracuse. I project SMU

630
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 2: as a ten point favorite as a minimum in five

631
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: games QS, Stanford, Wake, BC, and col What a schedule.

632
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: And then the crown jewel of this is that Louisville

633
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: and SMU actually play each other and I can't get

634
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: a Game of the year on it. It's the second

635
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: to last week the year before Thanksgiving, right, And the

636
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: reason why this is perfe for SMU and why I

637
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: would slot SMU above Louisville is that SMU is coming

638
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: off a bye November twenty second. Louisville has that game

639
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: in between Clemson and Kentucky. That is a primo SMU spot.

640
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: That's why I'm firm in my stance, and I think

641
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: SMU is the second best team in the ACC. I

642
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: don't know if I play them to make the championship

643
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: game of plus three twenty or if I wait for

644
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: the Game of the Year to come out. Not sure

645
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Speaker 2: how to play it, but at SMU Louisville game is

646
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: a massive spot for SMU and a bad spot for Louisville.

647
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Speaker 1: I will have an ACC future. It will not be Clemson,

648
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: it will not be SMU, it will likely not be Miami.

649
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: I'll better not be Miami.

650
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Speaker 1: I will save the reveal for the ACC episode. All right,

651
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Speaker 1: let's get to some G five. Let's got Mountain West.

652
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm an Air Force guy this year, like they're over,

653
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: What do you got?

654
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go Hawaii under six and a half.

655
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 2: I project them four point three. Timmy Chang is two

656
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: and fifteen on the road. They're losing Segar. They need

657
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: Micah Alejandro to they need him to.

658
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: All head you look good, look good. I'll tell you

659
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: that it is one start.

660
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: He needs to step up a little bit. But look

661
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: at this schedule. They're gonna play their sixth game of

662
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: the season on September twenty seventh. I mean they're consecutively

663
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: from week zero going on. And what is that September

664
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: twenty seventh game? A road trip to air Force, like

665
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 2: your sixth consecutive game, and you're going to triple option

666
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: air Force and Elevation, and then they travel off the

667
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: island the second half of their schedule, they travel off

668
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 2: the island like three or four weeks and Mountain West

669
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: play to Colorado State, Elevation, San Jose State, and UNLB.

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00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 2: I have them favored only three home games Sam Houston,

671
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: Portland State, and field goal faves to the electric San

672
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: Diego State team. I don't know under six and a half,

673
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: Like I know it's Juice that's going to an app

674
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: right after this podcast. That is an obscene number. I

675
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 2: would take under five and a half. I'd take under five.

676
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 2: I mean that's I'm not even close.

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00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm not there on the wife. We'll debate that later.

678
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: San Diego State. I kind of like over hunders as

679
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: of right now, you and I'll be called out of

680
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: state Wyoming in the mix selling those three teams AAC.

681
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: The Charlotte over is tempting. Yeah, I got a future

682
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: in the AASA that I'll save. Wait, Mark, who's doing

683
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: the let me see if that's you, it's not me.

684
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: There's one episode that A see. Okay, I got a

685
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: good future in the AC. I'll say for that episode, okay.

686
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 2: So you want me to get mine in?

687
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: And then I'm kind of a seller of Army this year.

688
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: I can't believe you just said that out loud. It's

689
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: Cammy Stucky, not Cammy Wilson. So I'll just be real quick.

690
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: I a low hanging fruit. Sorry. Temple Under three and

691
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: a half. Casey Keeler is brought in to rebuild the program,

692
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: the recruiting and the transfer portal because everything with that

693
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: program is completely broken. New schemes on both sides of all.

694
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: Tyler Walker and Brian Smith at the coordinator positions. Potential

695
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 2: four wins that could beat this. Here's the potential four wins,

696
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: the only ones on the schedule for Temple minus two

697
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: and a half in the opener against UMass Howard Week two,

698
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: Charlotte's to pick him on October eighteenth on the road,

699
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: but then they go back to back travel on the

700
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: road again October twenty fifth to Tulsa is what I

701
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: have projected as a four point doc. They have to

702
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: win all four of those games to beat this win total.

703
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: So I like under three and a half. It's only

704
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: juice minus one fifteen.

705
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: Temple ends the Venables tenure with a win at home

706
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: over Oklahoma what'll wed Oh kidding, but that will be

707
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: seventy years out of the fiable game. That's like the

708
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: Pittman losing Arc State Ventibles. This is the Temple you

709
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: leave them in Philly. Yeah, Conference to essay, I can't

710
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: say it out loud, Middle anything about Middle Tennessee over,

711
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: but I might be buying UTEP in some way. Unders.

712
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean Jack State and Sam Easton I think are

713
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: going to be disasters this year. They have to take

714
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: a massive step back. I mean the market obviously knows that,

715
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: but I might not be enough yet anything on Conference USA.

716
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: I actually went with a week one total. I'm gonna

717
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: put a little half unit in because I know totals

718
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: aren't available everywhere, but I'm gonna do Sam Houston Western

719
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: Kentucky over sixty one and a half key numbers in

720
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: total sixty two and sixty five. I'm going to keep

721
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Speaker 2: an eye on weather, extreme heat or win to see

722
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 2: if that'll bother it. But when you have a Phil

723
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: long Go offense, which is generally top ten and tempo

724
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: every stop. He's been at Ole Miss, UNC tried to

725
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: do that at Wisconsin, and the Western Kentucky quarterback Maverick McIver,

726
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: he'll be slinging from the opening snap. I see absolutely

727
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: zero defense being played in this game. These two teams

728
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: project if you go and look at unit rankings, they

729
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: project as having the worst defensive front sevens and all

730
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: of Conference USA, which means the first in the nation

731
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: at FBS. So what I see is not so much

732
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: the offenses are going to be functioning like Longo's offense.

733
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm not sure is just going to function from the

734
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: second that they take the snap. I think Western Kentucky will.

735
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: But what I see is what's an average game ten

736
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Speaker 2: to eleven possessions. I think there could be like eighteen

737
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: possessions in this game. I think there's gonna be a

738
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: lot of three and outs. I think we're going bombs

739
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: and if it's not, we're three and out, we're punting.

740
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: I think there could be like eighteen to twenty possessions

741
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: in this game. That's good enough for me to take

742
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: a shot on the over sixty one and a.

743
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Half sun Belt. I know you have a lot of

744
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: love for Southern Miss, which I'm sure you'll mention the

745
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: old Southern Mess, or I should say the new Southern

746
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Miss is Marshall. I'm selling Marshall my favorite windowtal so far.

747
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: Under Marshall, I had five, and.

748
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: Tony Gibson, we love him.

749
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go like three and nine, so

750
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: I think there's still room. It was five, and I

751
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: think it's five now everywhere. But under.

752
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: You know how we bet San Diego State overs, I

753
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: think we should be betting Marshall unders every week. With

754
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: his defense, with his defense and no offense, I think

755
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: every game is an under.

756
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: They did lose their entire defense, though, but a Sunbelt.

757
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: You love Southern Mess, I do.

758
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: If you don't have him yet, I think fifteen to

759
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: one is to stop point. I took forty to one

760
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: back in May, essentially Charles hoffbringing just bringing everything from

761
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: Marshall over, including his quarterback Brayln Braxton, he I think

762
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: is the best quarterback in the Sunbelt and defensive Endjim

763
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: on Tap might be the best addresser in the conference.

764
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: So Southern Miss is the new Marshal. Forty to one's gone.

765
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: See if you can find a thirty to one, twenty

766
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: five to one is so good, I probably stop buying

767
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: a fifteen to one.

768
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: All right, you're doing that episode, so we'll say some

769
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: more than that. Lastly, the Mac oh Boy, I can't

770
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: spoil anything before my beloved Mac episode, but might be

771
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: selling Ohio, which I was so dead wrong on last

772
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: year Mac manifesto. I stole a lot of work to

773
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: doing Mac. I spent a lot of time digging into

774
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: like the injuries in the Fall I mean in the

775
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: in camp are huge two in the Mac. Yeah, so

776
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: I still have a lot of work to do in

777
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: the Mac. I'm gonna take my but what do you got?

778
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take my shot and then listen to you

779
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: very carefully. I might even try to steal your notes

780
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: before you go live. But I'm going sch Michigan twenty

781
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: to one. I just cannot get over the fact that

782
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: Matt drink call comes from Army. He's been the main

783
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: driver in that offensive shift for Army. That kind of

784
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: one of the.

785
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: Reasons I don't like Army that I'm a little alone.

786
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: Right right, Yeah, So all of a sudden, CMU, the

787
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: fire up Chips is going to run this offense the

788
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: same triple elements at CMU and you and I just

789
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: said earlier on these two podcasts, you want to get gimmicky,

790
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: do it in the G five. You can flip the

791
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: league upside down. Central Michigan out there is twenty to one.

792
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Quitkowski returns at linebacker. He was all second team MAC.

793
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: And there has to be positive regression to the turnovers

794
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: last year the Chips were second TOM the worst in

795
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 2: the nation and turnover margin minus seventeen. That has to

796
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: flip itself. I don't have a lot to say about

797
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: the personnel and offense that can run this drink All system,

798
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: but the fact that you're practicing the triple every single

799
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: day and the MAC teams now have to like pause

800
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: themselves and defend this shit. Like to me, that is

801
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: worth a long shot future Central Michigan twenty to one

802
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: going in the app here today.

803
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: I might agree with you. I have a lot, she said.

804
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: I didn't want to spoil that for you, but that

805
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: I mean you, Oh the rules. You can't run this

806
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: gimmicky offense at this conference. It's gonna work. It's gonna

807
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: it's gonna bend some shit.

808
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: I love much more to say that on MAC manifesto Mac,

809
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: But all right, that's enough. We've done. Yeah we have

810
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: we have. We good talk for hours, but we have

811
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: to do. We'll save some for the conference previews, which

812
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: will all come starting July thirty. First, it's good to

813
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: be back. By the way, which I didn't mention, we

814
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: said year nine. The only reason to year nine is

815
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Speaker 1: because of all of you. We appreciate all of you.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for the voicemails me back, but we thank

817
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: all of you for listening being with us. Can't wait

818
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: to sweat games and go through another season again. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: it can end it very profitable. But thanks to Colin,

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Speaker 1: it's good to be back. It's good to see my friend.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Colin for joining me. Thanks to our producer

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00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell on the back end. Most importantly, thanks again

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Speaker 1: five kick off episode will be out on Monday. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back July thirty first to start the conference preius

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