1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: Here we go. ANFL season starts tonight. Eagles about to 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: hammer the Cowboys in several hours. Greg Cosel one hour 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: from now, we are liveving Los Angeles, wherever you may be, 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: of the Herd. Okay Jmax. Season starts tonight one hour. 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: I'll give you my final predictions for all the divisions. 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Not a lot of move. I didn't make one move. 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: I have a new division winner coming up. But some 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: alarm sounding and down tell us with the Cowboys little 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: alert them alarms going off. The thing about the NFL, 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: if you had to define what the most important stuff 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL is, it's really are you focused and 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: obsessed with winning? You can make a lot of mistakes, 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: hire the wrong person, fire the wrong person. Are you 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: obsessed with winning over everything? Else and never allow anything 23 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: to get in the way of that. Tom Brady famously 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: would not drink a single beer during the season. Bill 25 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: Belichick's mantra no days off. Andy Reid drawing up plays 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: off season. He's not on hunting trips, He's not on 27 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: fishing trips. He is all off season, as is Sean 28 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Payton drawing up and designing new plays. Going to YouTube 29 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: look it up nineteen fifty five Rose Bowl tape to 30 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: draw up place obsessed with winning, and yet Troy Yateman 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: finally saying it, the former Cowboy Great finally admitting it 32 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: that Jerry is not obsessed with winning. 33 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 3: Having the Cowboys as a discussion point is meaningful to 34 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: him and team. If people aren't talking about the Cowboys, 35 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: then he'll do things to stir up. So he he 36 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: kind of walked into that and has given the impression 37 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: that that supersedes winning. 38 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: In the NFL, the good teams, if they sniff selfish, 39 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: if they sniff anything that's not completely about the obsession 40 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: to win. Antonio Brown was to me the most talented 41 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: receiver arguably in the league. Steelers got him out of 42 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: the room, got him out of the room. Tom Brady 43 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: got him out of the room, actually at his house 44 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: the room. Sean Payton goes to Denver. Russell Wilson has 45 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: his own quarterback office. He sniffs it's more about Russ 46 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: than the team. Whether that's fair or not. That office 47 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: is gone day one, Russell's gone year two. Cam Newton distracted. 48 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: No back to back winning seasons ever, despite his talent, 49 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: ended very quickly if anything gets in the way, and 50 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: with Jerry finally Troy Aikman and others admitting it, Jerry's 51 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: selfish and he's not obsessed with winning. It's about his vanity, 52 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: it's about his drama. He puts it ahead of the team. 53 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: How about that article a year ago where Cowboy players 54 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: former Cowboy players came out and acknowledged it was distracting 55 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: to have tours during practice at the facility. So Belichick said, 56 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: do your job in Dallas. It's wave the tours. That's 57 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: not about winning. You can do a lot wrong. I mean, 58 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: Eagles signed Carson Wentz to a massive deal, got rid 59 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: of him soon thereafter, but they're obsessed with it. Howie 60 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Roseman's obsessed with it. And I think what happens is 61 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: when you have a distracted owner and an owner that 62 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: lacks discipline in the workplaces that I've worked, it always 63 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: bleeds down. Who's the most penalized team in the NFL 64 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: the last five years? The Dallas Cowboys. They're not focused, 65 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: they're not disciplined, and they're not obsessed with winning. And 66 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: what makes it worse is the one team more than 67 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: any other in this league I could argue is obsessed 68 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: with winning is the Philadelphia Eagles. If you go to 69 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys' last Super Bowl appearance nineteen ninety six, from 70 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: that day to today, the Eagles have twenty playoff wins, 71 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have five. The Eagles have eight conference championship appearances, 72 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have zero. The Eagles have four Super Bowl appearances, 73 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys have again zero. That since the Cowboys 74 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: last Super Bowl title. Do you know every team in 75 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: the NFC, every single team in the NFC past thirty years, 76 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: has reached the conference championship except the biggest brand, the 77 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, And it goes back to lack of discipline. 78 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: They are not obsessed with winning. Jay Glazer has said this, 79 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: it's almost unhealthy. The great ones in this league, the 80 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: Belichicks and the Brady's and the Peyton Mannings and the 81 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: Mahomes and the Andy Reids and the Sean Payton's, the Harbaws. 82 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: It's almost unhealthy. It is more important than almost everything 83 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: else in their life. More Troy Aikman on Jerry. 84 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure that Jerry and the Jones family and everyone 85 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: is tired of talking about the fact that they haven't 86 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: been to a championship game, let alone a super Bowl 87 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: in thirty years. The fact that the Cowboys are a 88 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 3: soap opera three hundred and sixty five days a year 89 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: that then becomes the scoreboard. 90 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Philadelphia can become noisy too. I'm not saying 91 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is not noisy. I mean they got a coach 92 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: going after fans, going after staff man. I'm not saying 93 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is not noisy. But you always know what matters 94 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia above everything, doub bull ues. It's not the 95 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: case with the Cowboys and Jerry. So I'm reading an 96 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: article in the Chicago Sun Times that's one of the 97 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: six newspapers still left in America, and it's interesting. They're 98 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: talking about Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson, and the opening 99 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: line by this reporter is the more Bears quarterback Kayleb 100 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: Williams explains how much he's learned from the new coach, 101 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson in the last seven plus months. The clear 102 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: it is how little he was taught as a rookie 103 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: an off season in preseason with Ben Johnson has been 104 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: like grad school for Caleb Williams. That will continue for 105 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, if not longer. Heading into 106 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: the opener Monday against the Vikings. So we were talking 107 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: about this this morning. We've all had bad bosses. I've 108 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: been very, very lucky. I've had one. I've had overwhelmingly 109 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: g eight supportive bosses and mentors, very lovy, lucky, knock 110 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: on wood or whatever this new set is built from. 111 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: I've had great bosses, but I had a bad one. 112 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: And they make everything harder. They hinder momentum, two steps forward, 113 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: three back. And I think sometimes we all know there's 114 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: really good coaches and really bad coaches. We know there's 115 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: really good owners and bad owners, really great quarterbacks and 116 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: bad quarterbacks. I think the gap in coaching, the problem 117 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: with it is it affects everybody. I mean, Caleb Williams 118 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: last year as a rookie quarterback, essentially, let's be honest, 119 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: was sent into the wilderness without a compass. They gave 120 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: him a couple of flashlights and a dark tunnel. Find 121 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: your way, Bo Nixon, Denver got human GPS. Sean Payton, 122 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: he got a shirp of climbing this mountain. Caleb Williams, 123 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: good luck, it's dark. Is that water is all? What 124 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: do I see up there? That's the difference the gap 125 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: in coaching. If you go to the first quarterback taken 126 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: since twenty twenty, the last five years, and this counts Caleb, Bryce, Young, 127 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow. Just to show you how hard 128 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: it is for number one picks in the pressure. They're 129 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: twelve and forty seven and one, okay, and that includes 130 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. That's a guy that got to a Super Bowl. 131 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: It is hard. So I mean, all you have to 132 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: do is look at Sam Darnold with the Jets and 133 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: the Panthers, and then Sam Darnold with Kevin O'Connell thirty 134 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: five touchdowns on a one h two pass already, look 135 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: at Geno Smith career, Reborn, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnald. It 136 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: is so hard. So my hunch is with Caleb Williams, 137 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: he is going to be the best version of Caleb 138 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: Williams now whatever that is in the NFL. If it's 139 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: a notch below Jaden Daniels, that's okay. This is a 140 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: franchise that it's never had a four thousand yard passing quarterback. 141 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: They've never had a quarterback throw for thirty touchdowns. So 142 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: if he becomes an a minus quarterback in Jaden Daniels's 143 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: best in class, he becomes second or third best quarterback. 144 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: It's still a franchise quarterback. But he'll be the best 145 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: he can be. But anybody listening to me or watching 146 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: me that has had a bad boss, they just get 147 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: in the way of success. So Caleb Williams has a 148 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: great drive followed by bad coaching and a clunker. And 149 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: I just think there's such an advantage for a Jadeen 150 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: Daniels having a Click at Kingsbury, or a JJ McCarthy 151 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: having a Kevin O'Connell bo Nicks having Sean Payton, for 152 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: anybody that's had a bad boss. It is. And it's 153 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: hard enough to scale Mount Kilimanjaro even with a great 154 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: shirt pup. So here is Albert Breer earlier this week 155 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: on realistic expectations. Let's be realistic here. It's a tough 156 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: schedule for Caleb and the Bear. 157 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 4: I think there is a world where you can get 158 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: them over five hundred, but because of the division that 159 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: they play in, it's a tough ask. And because the 160 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: schedule they have again it's a tough ask. Having to 161 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,239 Speaker 4: play the other North division makes it difficult. 162 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: So I would say, like. 163 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: If I'm a Chicago fan, what I'm looking for as 164 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: an ascending team at the end of the year with 165 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 4: a quarterback who's playing. 166 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Well, I said, I'm being optimistic. I think they split 167 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: their division games, which the Bears rarely do. I think 168 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: they're nine to eight. I don't think that's overwrought, over hyped. 169 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: Nine to eight Jmack feels about right to me. Again, 170 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: if you put them in the AFC South of the 171 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: NFC South, I think eleven and six is on the table. 172 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: But Minnesota's roster is probably better green Bay by NFL executives, 173 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: and the NFC was just voted number two behind Philadelphia. 174 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: Detroit's offensive line and offensive personnel is in a short class, 175 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, with the best teams in the league. So 176 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: I think nine and eight feels like, Okay, we got 177 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: the coach right, we got a franchise quarterback that to 178 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: me in Chicago, with their history, that feels very very 179 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: good to me. 180 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 5: You and I have been doing this long enough. 181 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 6: You don't make sweeping conclusions after week one. That being said, 182 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 6: if the Bears can't beat JJ McCarthy at home and 183 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 6: Caleb and Ben aren't on the same page, I would 184 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 6: adjust that nine and eight down to like Morris six 185 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 6: to seven wins. I mean, they have to win this 186 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 6: game called or at least look good if they lose 187 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 6: thirty twenty seven. 188 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: This isn't college football where Texas can stumble, but their 189 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: next three games are basically versions of San Jose State. Yes, 190 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: like in the NFL, if you lose at home to 191 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: a division rival, that can become a three game skid. 192 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: And then you get the media in Chicago swirling. 193 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 6: You're on a short week because you're playing Monday night football, 194 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 6: and then there's panic, Oh my gosh. 195 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: Here we go again. 196 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 5: And I think Chicago's. 197 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 6: Probably one of the teams that needs a win in 198 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 6: Week one more than anyone else. 199 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: That's a good point, Greg cosel in one hour from now, 200 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: how good is it to have football back thursdays from 201 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: this point I barely prep by and drive in. I'm 202 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: sitting eating breakfast in the car at ZZ Street. We 203 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: come back. We gave you a hint a sniff of 204 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: this yesterday. You see that number for college football? 205 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 5: Who was significant? 206 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 6: Yep? 207 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: That and a thought on the Eagles heading into tonight. 208 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 209 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: in noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 210 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 211 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 7: Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller. 212 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 7: Would mean a lot to have you join us on 213 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 7: our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name 214 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 7: is the Fifth Hour? I'll tell you it's a spin 215 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 7: off of it. 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If I've learned anything doing 226 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: this job for thirty something years, here's what I've learned 227 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: about human behavior. Half this country is terrified of change. 228 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: I was told I will never watch college football again. 229 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: This NIL. These might as well just watch pro football. 230 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: The transfer portal. I mean, what's going on. I mean, 231 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: one day the guy plays for Michigan, the next day 232 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: plays for Notre Dame. It was going to ruin the sport. Yeah, 233 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff was going to kill rivalries. Well, 234 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: the ratings are in for Texas Ohio State seventeen million viewers, 235 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: most watched college football game in the history of the sport. 236 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: Oh And let me add this. In twenty twenty three, 237 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: about the time the NIL and transfer portals started ramping up, 238 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: it was the most watched college football season ever. Twenty 239 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: twenty four topped it. This season topped the previous two. 240 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: The sport is growing. It's just like everybody's terrified of AI. 241 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Let me make a guarantee about AI. It'll get rid 242 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: of some base bottom line entry jobs in like you know, 243 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: mathematics and coding. It will undoubtedly expand the economy like 244 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: every single technology in the history of all of our lives. 245 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: The economy will be noticeably bigger in a decade, and 246 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: with the speed of AI maybe half that long. So 247 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: keep clutching your pearls as you step into your driverless car. 248 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: But we're all going to be okay. This weekend three 249 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: top ten matchups and they were all riveting. Clemson LSU 250 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: can't turn it off. Notre Dame Miami may have been 251 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: the best game of the weekend. Ohio State Texas, even 252 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: the clunker by Belichick was good for about two and 253 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: a half quarters. It's all about quality of games, more 254 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: big games, and yes, the red zone's going to be 255 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: fine with a couple of commercials. I've got a bladder. 256 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: Apparently nobody else does. We're all going to be okay, 257 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: we really are. It used to be Clemson season. They 258 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: lost at home. You're not playing for a natty. Clemson 259 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: reels off eight straight wins, six of them impressively. They're 260 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: back into the playoff, maybe as a top seed. Better content, 261 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: bigger swings, better games. The audience in college football is 262 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: expanding since nil, the transfer portal and the college football Playoff, 263 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: just like our economy will with a maybe a little gravelly, 264 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: a little bumpy, a little turbulent for eighteen months, it 265 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: will expand take a deep breath. Seventeen million. It wasn't 266 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: even frankly that artistic. The offenses weren't very good. Ohio 267 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: State only had two hundred yards arch Manning. You get 268 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of stunk seventeen million people. I look forward to 269 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: that first commercial on Red Zone. I'm gonna toast it 270 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: and then go to the bathroom. Two minutes later, J 271 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: Mack with a news no no, hear on the news. 272 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 6: This is the headline news. All right, let's get started 273 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 6: with Sunday night football, Colin. 274 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 5: It is gonna be an unbelievable matchup. 275 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 6: Josh Allen, who won the MVP last year, and Lamar Jackson, 276 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 6: who won it two years ago. Here's Josh Allen giving 277 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 6: high praise to his counterpart, Lamar. 278 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 8: You got Lamar Jackson, who's one of the greatest quarterbacks. Really, 279 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 8: we can already say it of all time. He is 280 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 8: an absolute stud, Like he's freakishly talented. He throws the 281 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 8: ball just as good as anybody in the league. And yeah, 282 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 8: he's a fun player to watch and I got a 283 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 8: lot of respect for him. 284 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: That's a really good opener. I kind of like Baltimore 285 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: on their own. 286 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, that Bolton lines moving, Georg Baltimore, the Buffalo defense looking. 287 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 5: Like a bit of a mass unit. And remember the 288 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 5: regular season. 289 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 6: Matchup last year, they killed him, Baltimore beat him by 290 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 6: a billion. 291 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: Well, Baltimore, in my opinion, Baltimore's got the better roster, 292 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: and that Buffalo remains, all these years later, very dependent 293 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: on Josh Allen. I've seen Baltimore on games in which 294 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: Lamar is not great in the regular season, blow people out. 295 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: So I Buffalo feels more than any team in the 296 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: league dependent. Their ultimate success is dependent solely on the quarterback. 297 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a good left tackle and they've 298 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: got a good back in James Cook. But you know 299 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: they've moved off several defensive players once they paid Josh Allen. 300 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: They're a good drafting team. I don't know if they're great, 301 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: but they're very good. But I think Baltimore's got there's 302 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: an argument after Philly, the best roster in the sport. 303 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and John Harbaugh, I think we said yesterday number 304 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 6: one coach against the spread in Week one always comes prepared. 305 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 6: It's tough to go against the Bills. Here we got 306 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 6: some Labar numbers for you. I was surprised that Josh 307 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 6: said he's one of the greatest quarterbacks. 308 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 5: Of all time. 309 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: Oh, he's absolutely the best mobile quarterback of all time. 310 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: I thought the first time I saw a mobile quarterback 311 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: was fran Tarkan. And second one I saw that I 312 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: couldn't believe was Steve Young. Third one was Michael Vick. 313 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: Donovan mcdabb couldn't move, but he wasn't that athletic. He 314 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: was just could do both things. Lamar is the most 315 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: spectacular quarterback. And I'll go back to this. We can 316 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: talk about playoffs all we want. I get it. He's 317 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: won seventy five percent of his starts in a league 318 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: where Bill Parcells won like fifty eight percent of his games. 319 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 6: Again, this is not a knock on Lamar, but he 320 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 6: went to a great franchise, the Ravenser and me okay, 321 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 6: great owner. 322 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 5: The front office topped in the league. 323 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: In I'm not denying that. But every great quarterback ever, 324 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: notice this had a great coach. I mean, Akeman had Jimmy, 325 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: and Marino had Sula, and Elway had Mike uh Shanahan. 326 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 5: You know you mentioned Mike Vick. I was a huge, 327 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 5: Mike Vick xan, we both let to. 328 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 6: Mike's not as good as Lamar, not even. But he 329 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 6: went to the Atlanta Falcons. It just functioned on franchise 330 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 6: where he carried them literally on it. 331 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: But let's be honest, and I agree in premise what 332 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: you're saying. But when Lamar got hurt and Huntley stepped in, 333 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: remember the backup Yeah stupid lely. Yeah yeah, they couldn't score. 334 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: All the great coaches and all the great old Linement 335 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: and all the great they couldn't score. 336 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 5: I mean and again, yes, Lamar. 337 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 6: Is a top fifteen quarterback in the history of football. 338 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: I think he is. I think that's fair. 339 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 6: Yes, but again, like some other guys like Vic didn't 340 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 6: really have the chance because he didn't have a break. 341 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: No, no, Don McNabb was. Michael admitted he came in 342 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: and he was immature. We have certain, no doubt that's 343 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: on Michael. He made and I love Mike. Mike is 344 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: the first to admit I wasn't ready. I was distracted. 345 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: Lamar came in obsessed. I mean remember lamar first year 346 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: and the second year of Chimmy, which, yeah. 347 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: How do you do that? 348 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: We'll must sure the Rock who comes in with new. 349 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 6: Traps who're three summers removed from him and his mom 350 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 6: squabbling as the. 351 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: Age represents him. 352 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: I nobody was like a that was the number one 353 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 5: off season story. 354 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: That was like Michaeh Parsons for Jered Jones. 355 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 5: He's got you. 356 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Know he doesn't trust. He doesn't trust a lot of. 357 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 5: People, nor do I. 358 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 6: Let's move on to uh second story, and that is 359 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 6: the Packers obviously got Michael Parsons. 360 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 5: Micah has the back issue. 361 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 6: Lafleur says he's hopeful that he'll have his shiny new 362 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 6: toy ready to go Colin again. This is one of 363 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 6: my favorite bets of the week. I like the Packers 364 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 6: a lot, possibly irrationally, so I can actually see a 365 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 6: bit of a slow start for the Lions new coordinators. 366 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: O line rebuilds curior O line. 367 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 5: Where does Jared got struggle the most? 368 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: Hear it with pressure? So did you and I talk 369 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: about this on the air off yesterday? I don't know. 370 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: I think it was on the air late in the show. 371 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: The one thing I worry about in the first two 372 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: weeks of the season is teams that are rebuilding their 373 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: ole line. So Chicago's done a great job with Joe 374 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: to Andy, Drew Dolman, and Jonah Jackson. How many snaps 375 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: in the preseason. When you ask coaches about all the units, 376 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: secondaries can get better fast. A lot of secondary is 377 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: just do we have dogs or not. Pass rushes can 378 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: be improved quickly running games, but offensive lines take snaps 379 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: in cohesion and time. And I look at detroit new 380 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator they attacked in the draft, the interior O line. 381 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: I think Detroit's good. Would it shock you if they 382 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: were messy in the first month. 383 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 6: Well, and also they've won five of six against the Packers, 384 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 6: so green Bay is a little bit of a revenge fighter. 385 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 6: They got swept last year. I'm going to remind folks 386 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 6: last year. Do you remember the first two weeks with 387 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 6: the New Orleans Saints did last year? 388 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: No? 389 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 5: Remember with Kobe at they try to forget Saints games. 390 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 5: They had like they won like forty one to ten 391 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 5: the first oh, they were one of the best. 392 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: It was like, oh my. 393 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 6: Gosh, Kubiak still not He's not even there this season. Okay, 394 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 6: the first two weeks, wacky stuff can happen. Keep an 395 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 6: eye on the Packers opening a can on Detroit I 396 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 6: would not be shocked thirty five. 397 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: Had we've had We should look this up for tomorrow. 398 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: We've had a massive upset in Week one. Yeah, it 399 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: feels like every year forever, and I've been looking at that. 400 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: We should do that later. Who's the biggest what is that? 401 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: Here's the thing in the opening week. I mean you've 402 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: only got the line. Tonight's eight and a half and 403 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: then Denver's a seven and a half to eight point fait. 404 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 6: Arizona is a big Denver's up to nine. Arizona's a 405 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 6: big favorite. On the road in New Orleans, Spencer Ratler 406 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 6: pulls himself, well, I mean the Patriots beat the Bengals 407 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 6: last year Week one. 408 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: Think about that. 409 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 5: That's right, they did. 410 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: Now Patriots Raiders is interesting, but that's only a three 411 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: point spread. 412 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 5: It gets up to three and a half. A lot 413 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 5: of people like the page. 414 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. A fascinating game for me is 415 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: Houston against the Rams. So the Rams defense is nasty 416 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: and Houston's got I think three to four new offensive 417 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: line starters that really helps. I think my take is 418 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: on that game. But Stafford hasn't practiced a lot. The 419 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: left tackle for the Rams just started practicing. I think 420 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: the Rams are vulnerable in Week one. They just don't 421 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: left tackleing quarterback. Not a lot of stands. Those are 422 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: like two teams on your fringe super Bowl. But that's right, 423 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: So I think they'll be fine later as long as 424 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: Matt healthy. But they also have Terrence Ferguson Rams rookie 425 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: tight end hasn't practiced much. Devonte Adams with Stafford hasn't 426 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: practiced much. I don't know what and Will Anderson's a 427 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: great rush edge Rams left tackle at Blood Claws. So 428 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: I did that game has got upset written all over it, potentially. 429 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 6: Week one chaos. Final story Colin Is. Yesterday we heard 430 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 6: from Justin Fields saying, Hey, the game against Pittsburgh, it's 431 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 6: not a big deal, It's just another game. Well, Aaron 432 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 6: Rodgers is echoing that sentiment, saying he's just excited for 433 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 6: Week one now. He has been talking behind the scenes, 434 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 6: apparently with teammates. Pat Fryer move said that Rogers is saying, hey, 435 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 6: this is just another game. It's not a revenge. I 436 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 6: know it's me and Fields going head to head. The 437 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 6: Jets got the crappy news about Vera Tucker yesterday. Obviously, 438 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 6: Rudel Line's still at three. 439 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: I like the Jets. I like the younger quarterback that 440 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: can extend plays. And I don't think Justin Fields is 441 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, but he may be my favorite quarterback 442 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: in the league that's not a franchise quarterback. I don't 443 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: think i'd build around him, but I can win a 444 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: bunch of games with Justin Fields. Again, I would not 445 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: build around I don't think he's that guy. But if 446 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: you're telling me, and I also think he's not a backup, 447 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that starts for several teams. 448 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: He bounces around, but he is first of all, big arm, 449 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: likable kid. Teammates love him, got a whip and can 450 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: really move and move the change. 451 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 6: Do you think he's like a Again, he's better than 452 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 6: this guy, but Malik Willis who he's much better than 453 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 6: Malik Willis. Okay, So here's the thing. So this is 454 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 6: the third year in a row he started Week one 455 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 6: for a different team. 456 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, here's see. I think he's gonna have a Gardner 457 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: Minshew feel where by the way, everywhere he goes, you're like, 458 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew's pretty good. Nobody really wants to build around it. 459 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: But Gardner Minshew is a really nice professional athlete. Justin 460 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: Fields has got talent. But there's a reason he keeps bouncing. Yeah, 461 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: there's a reason he's not in Pittsburgh. I'm with you. 462 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 6: I think jets to the side. Like you said yesterday, 463 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 6: Sauce Gardner on NETCAF, what else you got. 464 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I picks in early. All the 465 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: lines are now worse. I would rather not do a 466 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: Blazing five in week one, but America wants it. It's 467 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: they're thirsty, so I'm gonna do it. But I don't know. 468 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know what Aaron Rodgers and Pittsburgh's gonna 469 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: look like. 470 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 5: I was last year's Blazing five weeks one. 471 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't recall poor Jamack with the news. 472 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. 473 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: The herd line, Irvin Meyer in a couple of hours, 474 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: Greg Cosell, top of next hour. You know I was 475 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: a night. The Dallas Cowboys face the Philadelphia Eagles, and 476 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: Philadelphia is a huge favorite and should be. What is 477 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: interesting about the Eagles, they're really one of one. They 478 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: do a lot of things that bad NFL franchises do. 479 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: They fired Andy Reid and then another coach who won 480 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. They gave Carson Wentz a massive contract 481 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: and then quickly moved off it. They have a player 482 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: reading self help books on the sideline during games. Their 483 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: head coach often has to be held back he's sparring 484 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: with fans. They signed a running back with an injury 485 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: history to a big contract. They pay both of their receivers. 486 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: They built their offense around a running game in a 487 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: passing league. They hired a coach who wasn't ready and 488 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: had the worst press conference opening press conference ever. And 489 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: they just keep ending up in Super Bowls. And I 490 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: think in this is where Jalen Hurts value is underrated. 491 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean he is the stoic therapist in a room 492 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: with arguing couples. I mean, your coach is loud, the 493 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: media is loud, you got security guards on the sidelines, 494 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: You've got players reading books. This is what this feels like, Carolina, 495 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: but all the noise and the drama. I mean, Philadelphia 496 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: is a loud sports city to begin with. It could 497 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: be the Phillies, it could be the Sixers, it could 498 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: be Joel Embiid. But this is where Jalen Hurts is 499 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: a plus plus plus plus. I said this a couple 500 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: of years ago. I stand by it. He is the 501 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: best quarterback in league history. At the podium, and you 502 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: know what I think about the podium, the Wednesday pressure 503 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: at the podium with the bank sponsor behind you, got 504 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: the hat on forward, total grown up things are on. 505 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: There's an inferno burning around him. He's the quiet mind 506 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: in a very loud storm in Philadelphia. So I mean 507 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: last year was last year? Nick Sirianni get a little 508 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: rough patch shave in his head, not interested, doesn't get involved, 509 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have any comments. So it's it is just a 510 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: wildly loud and restless sports city. And at times Philadelphia. 511 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: If I wrote down some of the things that the 512 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: Eagles regularly do on an annual basis, You're like, who 513 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: is that? Chicago? Is that the Texans eight years ago? 514 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: It's no, It's the Eagles. They'll end up in super Bowls. 515 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of it is the owner 516 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: is really good, the GM's probably the best in the league, 517 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts. There's a lot more than throwing the football. 518 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: I have been on this for years and I get 519 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: so much crap when I do care about your maturity. 520 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: I said, can't draft Johnny Manziel Baker's going to have troubles. 521 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: Cam Newton worries me. Jamis Winston's goofy. That stuff matters. 522 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: And the greatest example of the value of that being 523 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: a grown up. I know it's unfair that you got 524 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: to be twenty four going on forty eight, but the 525 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: greatest example of that is Jalen Hurts. And here's Nick 526 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: Seriani this week on what he loves about a star quarterback. 527 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 9: Jalen. 528 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: I love how selfless he is. 529 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 9: Right, He's been so efficient as a quarterback, taking care 530 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 9: of the football, efficient of going where the right place 531 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 9: with the football. And then there's a judgment on the 532 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 9: outside of well, he didn't throw for this many yards 533 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 9: or didn't throw for this many touchdowns. I don't care. 534 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 9: He was efficient with the football and he did everything 535 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 9: he needed to do for us to win the game. 536 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 9: That doesn't just apply with your star football player and 537 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts. That also applies for the rest of the team. 538 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean, imagine in the NBA going to a star 539 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: and saying, we want you to take fewer shots. We 540 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: want the ball in your hands less. I'm not sure 541 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: how that would land, but that's what they did at 542 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: the bye week with Jalen Hurts. They said, we want 543 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: a more Jalen. We don't want you throwing thirty two times, 544 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: we want twenty six. And he's like, I'm good. I 545 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: want to win. And that's why I've always said, I 546 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: think the basketball culture in this country, but the AAU 547 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: stuff is a little broken. I love the football culture. 548 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: Obsessed with winning. Their standings not really your feelings. Facts 549 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: and standings are bigger than feelings. You gotta get over yourself. 550 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: And Jalen Hurts did it Alabama when they benched him. 551 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: He did it Oklahoma, and he's done it multiple times 552 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. Greg Cosel Top of the Hour and a 553 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Thursday Cowboys at Philadelphia Tonight, and FC executives anonymously sat 554 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: down with Mike Sando and ranked one through sixteen in 555 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: the NFC. Interesting how they ranked the teams that's next. 556 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 557 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: and noon Eastern non am Pacific Saturday. 558 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 6: The sy Hawke Series takes center stage and all starts 559 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 6: at ten am Eastern with their best pregame show in 560 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 6: college football, live from the campus of Iowa State. Then 561 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 6: Rock o'beck lads the Cyclones in a showdown against arch 562 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 6: rival Iowa on Big Noons Saturday only on Fox. 563 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm taking Iowa State and Oklahoma big over Michigan this weekend. 564 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 6: I can't believe you're taking Choklahoma in September. 565 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: First of all, their defense is all juniors and seniors. 566 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: Brett Vennable's got his guys. It's an old defense. Have 567 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: you seen that Bryce Underwood. 568 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 5: I'm familiar with his work. 569 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great. But on the road, inexperienced quarterback, how 570 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: did they do this past weekend? They struggled? Inexperienced Oklahoma 571 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: was a top five six loud environment, old junior, senior defense, 572 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: freshman quarterback Michigan and that quarterback's good, but that's a 573 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: that's a rough spot. 574 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 6: Remember last year they bottled up Jalen Milrod made him 575 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 6: look I mean, yeah, yeah, so at Vanderbilt. 576 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: But okay, so Mike Sando at ESPN, who I think 577 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: it does some of their good deep diving at ESPN. 578 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: He went and he went and talked to eight NFL 579 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: executives about the NFC. So he wanted to rank one 580 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: through sixteen the NFC teams, and the executive said, listen, 581 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: the NFC is really hard, and we've talked about this. 582 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: The AFC UF star quarterbacks. Josh Allen's going to win 583 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: his division. You know, Burrow or Lamar is going to 584 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: win his division. 585 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 6: C J. 586 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: Stroud's going to probably win his division. It's just easier. 587 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes will be a playoff quarterback. So one of the 588 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: lines by an executive anonymously is you know it's going 589 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: to be he said, somebody's going to surprise you, shock 590 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: you in the NFC and get into the playoffs, and 591 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: it's probably going to be a super lucky team. So 592 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: I went through one through sixteen. So for the radio audience, 593 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: I will read this once in order. It was Philly one, 594 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay, two Lions, three Bucks, four Rams, five Commander 595 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: six Niners, Vikings, Seahawks, nine Cardinals, ten Falcons, eleven Bears, 596 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: twelve Cowboys at thirteen, Giants fourteen, Panthers at fifteen. I 597 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: think Caroline is better than that, and the Saints sixteen. 598 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I'll tell you why I think 599 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: the NFC is harder than the AFC. I'll give you 600 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: an example. What in the hell do I do with Minnesota. 601 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: I love their coach, top three left tackle, maybe the 602 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: most talented receiver, good running back, excellent tight end, rebuilt 603 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: their offensive line, good home field advantage. It's an offensive league. 604 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: I like everything about Minnesota's offense, even the defense. I 605 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: would argue after Andy Reid and'spags that Brian Flores and 606 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell are the best coaching tannem in the league. 607 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: Now solid Shanahan a up there. It's a great in 608 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: an offensive league. I've got the Andy Reid spags of 609 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: the NFC. Great left tackle, great receiver, tight end, running back, 610 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: above average, rebuild, all line. I have no idea what 611 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: I get with JJ McCarthy. I have no idea. I mean, 612 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: I look at Minnesota. Twelve and five is on the table, 613 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: and so is seven and ten. I have no idea. 614 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be shocked if Minnesota they're not going 615 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: to be as good as last year's record. But if 616 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: Minnesota surprises us. The other one is Arizona. Jonathan Gannon's 617 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: the coach. Here's all I know. First year four and thirteen, 618 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: next year eight and nine took the worst defense or 619 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: second worst defense in the league. In one year their 620 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: middle of the pack, and they spent six of their 621 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: seven draft picks on defense, and they were in a 622 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: lot of one possession games. Now Jmack has called him 623 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: that's his team in the NFC, and I don't know. 624 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 1: I think that division is totally up for grabs. If 625 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford's healthy, I'll take the Rams. If he's not, 626 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: Rams could finish fourth if they're going with you know, 627 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo thirteen weeks. I don't know. But Arizona's interesting also, 628 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: star tight end, star receiver, star back, old lines better 629 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: than you think. I don't know what to do with Arizona. 630 00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: And I like Kyler Murray. Not everybody does, but spinet movement. 631 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: I again, I'll say it with Arizona, eleven and six 632 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: is on the table, and six and eleven is on 633 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: the table, I don't know. And the other one is 634 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: the Bears. I don't know. Again, would you be shocked 635 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: if they're ten and seven and they're a wild card 636 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: team or what if it implodes and they're seven and ten. 637 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: I like Ben Johnson, but I don't know. Caleb Williams. 638 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: Dude's got the horsepower. But I don't know receivers, DJ Moore, 639 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: Roma Dunze tight Ends. They've got two of them. That kid, 640 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: Colston Lovelin from Michigan's had a great camp. I don't know. 641 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: In the NAFC, I know who's great, and I know 642 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: who's a tire fire. Buffalo is gonna be really, really good. 643 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore is gonna be good. Houston's gonna be good. Jmack 644 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: loves the Jags. I'm terrified to bet the Jags this 645 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: weekend against Carolina. Like, I don't know what the Jags. Okay, 646 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: that's rare in the AFC. In the AFC, there's one 647 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: team that I it could be anything. Jacksonville, Like, I 648 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: don't know what Jacksonville. I don't trust them. It's a 649 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: new coach. I feel like I feel that way about Minnesota, Chicago, Arizona. 650 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: I actually think Carolline is better than people think. I 651 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: don't even know what to make I love Seattle. You 652 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: don't Seattle's five to one to win their division. So 653 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: Vegas doesn't have a clue what to do with Seattle. 654 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 5: So just a clear setting up. I don't love the Jags. 655 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 6: I'm betting on Liam Cohen, their new head coach, who 656 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 6: is a. 657 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 5: I don't want to put the genius label. 658 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 6: On him, but let's be real. What he did with 659 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield Colin pretty impressive, I mean, very very good. 660 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 6: And I think with the addition of Travis Hunter, who's 661 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 6: starting at wide receiver two you get Brian Thomas, that 662 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 6: offense will be making the jump to light speed. Okay, 663 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 6: Travis etn They got a young p I would bet 664 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 6: on the Cohen brothers for another hit movie. I don't 665 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 6: know if Liam Cohen's a guy I'm gonna bet on you. 666 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 6: Have you looked at the Panthers defense? Have you looked 667 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 6: at their wide receiver room were number wide receiver who 668 00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 6: was awesome last year? 669 00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: Coker? 670 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 6: He's out Adam Thieler and they traded him last week. 671 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 6: They got young dudes, Bryce Young. 672 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: But I think Jacksonville is the one team in the 673 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: AFC we're not. You don't know what you're gonna get. 674 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: I think the NFC's got six of those. I the 675 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: NF this is just like this anonymous execs said, somebody's 676 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: gonna get hot, somebody's gonna get lucky. They're gonna win 677 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: the fumbles games, They're gonna win the walkoff games. 678 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 6: Can you call that back on the screen because I 679 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 6: thought I saw Tampa Bay four? Is it was that 680 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 6: incorrect in the n you like Tampa, I don't like 681 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 6: them that much. 682 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 5: I mean, Colin, that's it. 683 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: Well, I think works is not even selling week one. 684 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: So again I think that the NFC power rankings based 685 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: on executives is you don't know after Philadelphi even Green 686 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,800 Speaker 1: Bay is Jordan love good? 687 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know why the Rams are buried so low. 688 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 6: The Niners feels like a huge with Colin No Tristan 689 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 6: Wurf's an aging defense in Tampa there was hemorrhaging points 690 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 6: last year. I don't think the Bucks are that good. 691 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 6: I'm on team Falcons here. I like Atlanta. Okay, So 692 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 6: I want to end this first hour. Greg Cosell top 693 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 6: next hour. So we went back and looked. 694 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: Not only were we right, it's happened now five years 695 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: in a row where at least a six and a 696 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: half point underdog, almost a touchdown underdog, has one week one. 697 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: So last year, the Patriots beat the Bengals. Year before, 698 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: Lions beat the Chiefs on Thursday Night Football. The Steelers 699 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: beat the Bengals the year before as a touchdown Dog. 700 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: The Steelers beat the Bills. Remember that game. I think 701 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: there was a block pund or something weird in that game. 702 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 1: Steelers went to Buffalo and beat Josh Allen and the Bills. 703 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: I remember that because I had the Bills. And then 704 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: five years ago Jags beat the Colts and it was 705 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: not a very it was a better Colts team and 706 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: out a very good Jacks team. So when you look 707 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: at the schedule, five years in a row is a trend. 708 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: I'd argue three years a trend. Five years is an absolute. 709 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: What is Don't tell me Philadelphia is going down? All right? 710 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 5: Giants are Browns? Which one you want? 711 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: One of those Giants? 712 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 5: Both are divisional matchups. 713 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: I like the Giants. I think the Giants is the 714 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: upset of the weekend. 715 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 5: Both have new quarterbacks this season. 716 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: The other thing is the Giants defensive front. 717 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 5: They gotta keep them in that game. 718 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: Also Dan Quinn head coach, Washington Baden Openers, Brian Dable 719 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: offensive coach. Offensive coaches tend to be early in the season. 720 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: They bring out the stuff they've been drawn up all 721 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: off season. Giants at Washington, that one feels like it's 722 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: six and alight. What's the spread? Six and a half. 723 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 5: It's been coming down. 724 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 6: Actually, there's some money coming in on the Giants as 725 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 6: well as the Browns. Now, let's just remember Bengals notorious 726 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 6: slow starters, right their offensive line. Have you looked at Yeah, 727 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 6: he's something a guy named Patrick att Guard who's been 728 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 6: awful the last like three seasons. I wonder if Miles 729 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 6: Garrett and company could scheme up some stuff and make 730 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 6: that an interesting game. 731 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Flaco's starting, so it's a grown up. 732 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: He's at home. We haven't seen him much in the preset. 733 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know how many stamps did Joe Flacco 734 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: take in the preseas. Did he take one? I don't know. 735 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: So they, you know, they feel confident in that that's 736 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: our starter. Yeah, one of those two. 737 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 6: I'm not buying the Saints shock the Cardinals. Gosh, that 738 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 6: would be depressing because I'm the loaded up on the cart. 739 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 6: I mean, it's like six and a half seven. 740 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: I know you're you're you're interesting because you don't like 741 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, but they're your shocking team in the league. 742 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: So you're making a bet. You make fun of me 743 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: because I bet against in the opener, Josh Allen and 744 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: maybe Mahomes. You don't even like Kyler Murray and you're 745 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: loading up on you used to like him. 746 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 6: I'm kind of out on him. I know you guys 747 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 6: are hanging out at UFC fights, but it's less about 748 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 6: Kyler mccollin, Connor McBride, Harrison. 749 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: They're sacked. Oh, they've got really good players. 750 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 6: And you look at the Saints that I'm like, did 751 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 6: you watch Spencer Ratler last year? 752 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: I know he was a great it was all one six. 753 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a starter. 754 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 5: I read that somewhere and Tyler they draft a new guy. 755 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 5: He can't even beat out to Spencer Ratler. So I 756 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 5: don't know. 757 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 2: Kellen Moore. 758 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: Do we like Kellen Moore? 759 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 5: I know people like, well, he was great. 760 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Undecided, he goes. 761 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 5: We're going to be great with her without Kellen Moore. 762 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 5: I did Kelly Moore do with the Chargers? 763 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 6: Remember a couple of years ago, there's all this excitement 764 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 6: as the offensive. 765 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 1: Coordinator, Oh, Herbert Chuck Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore got fired 766 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: and like, I don't know this feel this week one 767 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 1: is crazy. I'll all circle this. I think Minnesota at Chicago, Yeah, 768 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: that is fascin. 769 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 5: That one of those nights where you're not drinking. 770 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: Bro every I'm not. You got me marginalized as some 771 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: out of control boozer. Last night I had one Tito's 772 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: iced tea. It's called a John Daily. Really, yeah one. 773 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 6: I thought you were hanging out with the boys. I 774 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 6: didn't get a call. Still waiting for my boys or 775 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 6: a good time. By the way, I check with the wife. 776 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 6: I'm free tonight. If you just happen to be in 777 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 6: my neighborhood, I'm. 778 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 1: All jammed up doing I have a dentist appointment. I'm 779 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: moving across town.