WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Hangry?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Chuck and this is short Stuff, and we finally

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<v Speaker 1>tackle one of the most important concepts of our time. Hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>It's real. It's a thing, Yeah, definitely is. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just something people say in their marriage to poke fun

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<v Speaker 1>at their spouse or their partnership. It is something that

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<v Speaker 1>is real and it all has to do with physiological things,

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<v Speaker 1>the the makeup of your human body and the fuel

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<v Speaker 1>that it runs on, and the fact that when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have it, things change. Yeah. They so we're not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly sure what, like how the mechanism, the physical mechanism

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<v Speaker 1>of being hungry translates into anger or hostility. There's some

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<v Speaker 1>really good theories, but there is like a physiological basis

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<v Speaker 1>for that, and that when you have me of glucose

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<v Speaker 1>blood sugar um, your your body uses that is energy

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<v Speaker 1>to power all sorts of stuff. But when that's low, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>systems start to get kind of shut down. On the periphyry.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes one of those systems, they think is um

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<v Speaker 1>self control, because self control can often require a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>amount of energy, and when you don't have self control

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's difficult to be polite to some people. Absolutely. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that can happen is the hypothalamus, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the part of the brain, uh that you know

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<v Speaker 1>involves hormone production as well as a lot of other stuff. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets sort of out of whack and throws hormones

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<v Speaker 1>out of whack and can suppress serotonin, which is everyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows is the field good neurotransmitter. And if you're all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden not processing serotonin, then you're probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get the very least moody and maybe even angry. Yes, Supposedly,

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<v Speaker 1>for your serotonin um like production to really take a hit,

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<v Speaker 1>your blood sugar has to drop really quickly from like

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred milligrams a desci leader to fifty five milligrams

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<v Speaker 1>a desci leader, which that seems like a precipitous drop. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, quick In show correction, we said

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<v Speaker 1>grams of caffeine instead of milligrams in which one was

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<v Speaker 1>that the Energy Drinks Energy Drinks episode, So yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>were saying people were drinking a hundred and sixty grams

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<v Speaker 1>of caffeine. Somebody wrote in and said, I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine what I would feel like before my heart exploded.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So, anyway back to this, Um, Cortisol is another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that can be a culprit if you have too

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<v Speaker 1>much cortisol going on, which can happen when you have

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<v Speaker 1>low blood sugar. That's a stress hormone. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you've got one thing being depleted,

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<v Speaker 1>which is serotonin. You've got the other thing in the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite direction, the cortisol being increased. And it's pretty obvious

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<v Speaker 1>where that's obvious, where that's gonna lead a big fight.

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<v Speaker 1>You know where it's gonna lead. Chuck, It's gonna lead

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<v Speaker 1>us right into a commercial break, all right, change to Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the stars the sky so much so, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>we should shout out our former friends and colleagues, well,

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<v Speaker 1>former colleagues, still friends. I'd like to think how stuff works,

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<v Speaker 1>UM for helping us out with this episode. There are

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<v Speaker 1>multiple articles on how stuff works about hanger or being angry,

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<v Speaker 1>and they basically created a study bonanza that just it's

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<v Speaker 1>a buffet of studies trying to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>prove that hunger turns into hanger UM, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are pretty lame actually, even though they've been published

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<v Speaker 1>in some pretty legitimate journals. Agreed, Um, I think what

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<v Speaker 1>they all do those a show that hanger is real.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, some of them are great, but let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about them. Yeah, they're just trying to get the

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<v Speaker 1>design down and no one's really cracked the code yet. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, there was one from two fourteen that appeared

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<v Speaker 1>in the p N A. Y S. The journal UM

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<v Speaker 1>that studied a hundred and seven couples. They measured their

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<v Speaker 1>gluecoast levels twice a day, okay, and then to measure

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<v Speaker 1>how aggressive they were, they said, hey, here's a voodoo doll.

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<v Speaker 1>Do what you will with it, right, Well, a voodoo

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<v Speaker 1>doll of your partner or spouse. I think they use

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<v Speaker 1>married couples, but I'm sure it's the same for for

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<v Speaker 1>non married couples. But uh yeah, they said, here's foodoo dolls,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a bunch of pins. Um, yeah, do what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>And what they found was, uh, when the person was

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<v Speaker 1>super angry, they were jam and pins all over the

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<v Speaker 1>face and body of their partner's doll. Right. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they also did a supplementary thing where they put the

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<v Speaker 1>part there's in separate rooms and gave them each the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to crank the volume up on some music in

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<v Speaker 1>the other partners chamber, and um, the ones who are

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<v Speaker 1>hungry or used more pins in the voodoo doll and

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<v Speaker 1>turned the decibels up higher than people who weren't hungry. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course they made it so that the person

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<v Speaker 1>just thought they were turning the volume up, they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>actually affecting the volume, which is hilarious but man alive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like take this, Emily, right, like jamming pins in a doll,

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<v Speaker 1>like cranking a bad music. Yeah, here's some nickel Back

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Are we all still making fun of Nickelback? Yeah? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's okay. Okay. I didn't know if there

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<v Speaker 1>was like a rehabilitation that I had not not noticed. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Now they're still They're still terrible, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for those guys at the same time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're like multi multi, multi millionaires though, and

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<v Speaker 1>I get the impression they don't really care. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't feel sorry for anyone that has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money, right, No. Um. There were some other studies here.

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<v Speaker 1>One was UM from O how State that basically UM

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of this is correlation, of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>not causation. But uh, they found that UM self control

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<v Speaker 1>was linked to glucose levels in the brain, so people

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<v Speaker 1>who drank a beverage high in glucose was less aggressive

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<v Speaker 1>than people who didn't. UM. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>like any sort of suggestion, like to drink a sugary

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<v Speaker 1>drink to keep you sort of chilled out. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure about this one. I'm with you. There

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<v Speaker 1>was also one that UM I think linked diabetes to

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<v Speaker 1>glucose metabolism obviously UM, but that it's they tied it

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<v Speaker 1>to aggressiveness and decreased self control as well, so that

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of supports the previous study. But it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of surprising, actually, I guess I wonder if people who

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<v Speaker 1>have type two diabetes are more prone to hungry nous

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<v Speaker 1>than other people. Yeah. Maybe. Uh. This two thousand eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>study was published by the American Psychological Association in the

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<v Speaker 1>journal Emotion. This one I think I understand, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not positive. Uh. Here's what they did, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can explain the kicker for me. Uh. There were a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of experiments, and these were online experiments, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>always a little bit jankie. But they showed four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>participants in image that was supposed to kind of clearly

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<v Speaker 1>be either positive, negative or neutral. Uh, and then an

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<v Speaker 1>ambiguous image in this case they use Chinese pictographs and

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<v Speaker 1>then said rate that according to like how pleasant it

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<v Speaker 1>is to you on a scale of one to seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and then tell us how hungry you are. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is where I just don't quite get what it

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<v Speaker 1>was as far as being primed. It wasn't very well explained.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you explain it? I can't actually, So so what

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<v Speaker 1>they did was they found that the hungry year the

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<v Speaker 1>people were, um, the more likely they were to give

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<v Speaker 1>that ambiguous image like a terrible rating right like they were.

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<v Speaker 1>They interpreted it as like negative or something like that

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<v Speaker 1>rather than neutral or positive. But only they really only

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<v Speaker 1>saw this effect when the people who were hungry had

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<v Speaker 1>seen that negative image first. So, so what the what

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<v Speaker 1>the researchers are saying is that when you're angry, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like, um, you're you're mean to somebody. But

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't just come out of the blue, like if

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<v Speaker 1>your spouse comes up to you and tells you how

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<v Speaker 1>much they love you and gives you a hug, you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably not going to react with hostility. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>hungry and your spouse comes up and criticizes you, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good chance you're going to overreact and like be

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<v Speaker 1>a jerk in response, and that is angry. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of the the upshot of what they were saying. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's like a context basically, that's to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly that there there needs to be a primer for

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<v Speaker 1>angry nous to come about. But yes, still, if you're hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>you're more likely to be hostile if you're primed with

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<v Speaker 1>something negative. First, all right, well that makes sense. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one in Europe that is to me, these

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<v Speaker 1>speak to me a little bit more because they're just very,

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<v Speaker 1>very rudimentary, and that they asked people to track their

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<v Speaker 1>emotions very simply track your emotions five times a day

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<v Speaker 1>for three weeks on this app and let us know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're eating habits at the same time. And they

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<v Speaker 1>basically said that like fifty six of your sort of

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<v Speaker 1>negative feelings or irritability is due to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you your blood sugar was probably low. Inn't that nuts?

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty of your jerky nous over that week or month

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Three weeks um can be attributed to just

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<v Speaker 1>being hungry at the time. Yeah, I find I'm most

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<v Speaker 1>critical with myself as a father and like when I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't do the right thing as a dad, as

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm busy doing something else and I'm like being interrupted.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I'm like just trying to get this work

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<v Speaker 1>email out or something, I can like be a jerk. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious to see if food is also playing

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<v Speaker 1>a part there, yeah, because I mean it could be

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<v Speaker 1>stress or being under a deadline. But yeah, I wonder too.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to create your own study with the

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<v Speaker 1>app and pretend you're from Central Europe too. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>weird though, because I'm also Emily has more of an app,

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<v Speaker 1>is more apt to be angry than me. Uh, food

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<v Speaker 1>is more um, not important, but it has that effect

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<v Speaker 1>on her more than it does for me, and that

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<v Speaker 1>for an overweight guy. I can skip meals all day long.

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<v Speaker 1>I can even do a fast and I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it really affects my emotions that much. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds to me like Emily is just more sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>to blood sugar. Probably you are, you know, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe HER's just drops more precipitously than yours does.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows. Yeah, there may be like a literal physiological difference.

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<v Speaker 1>But the upshot of all of these buddies seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be that, um, we lose self control when we're hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's a big trigger for angry nous. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, they've kind of shown that you

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<v Speaker 1>can defuse being angry by just being self aware. Studies

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<v Speaker 1>have kind of investigated if you show somebody that they're

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<v Speaker 1>mad and hungry, are they going to like, are they

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to lash out? And they found no, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, I'm being a jerk right now because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hungry, then you're probably less prone to actually follow

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<v Speaker 1>through on your jerky behavior. Yeah, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably true for most reasons, Like if Emily was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to get something done and you're being very

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<v Speaker 1>impatient with ruby, has nothing to do with hunger. I

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<v Speaker 1>think just about self awareness, which is always a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing to try and model. Definitely, just ask yourself, why

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<v Speaker 1>do I feel this way? Be curious about yourself. There's

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of neat stuff you can learn. Yeah, or

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<v Speaker 1>stick your head in the sand and never grow. That's right. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck just laughed charmingly, and I've got nothing else, so

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