Speaker 1: I'm real people, real celebrity joined the Breakfast Morning. Everybody
Speaker 1: is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Scharlaman the guy. We are
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Speaker 1: this morning. Us right the legendary comment comments in the
Speaker 1: build the morning sir Peace Peace, what's up? Yea not
Speaker 1: comment before you walked in and said, man comments one
Speaker 1: of those people. I'm scared of his eyes crazyfidence. I
Speaker 1: think by the said comment is one of those individuals
Speaker 1: you don't play with. He has that eye that that like,
Speaker 1: I'm from Chicago and now you can die to night,
Speaker 1: I said. I interviewed a lot of people comment has
Speaker 1: that eye music soul child got that. That's a different
Speaker 1: But welcome to the show, sir Man, Thank you. I'm
Speaker 1: glad to be here. What's up? Man? Or he just
Speaker 1: saw the interview off like this? Before the people shot
Speaker 1: in Chicago this past weekend fourth of July, it was
Speaker 1: like seventy shot. What the hell is going on in
Speaker 1: your city? Man? Man, it's just tough out there. Man,
Speaker 1: it's been like guns is everywhere. That's the way cast
Speaker 1: think that that's the way they think they should handle it.
Speaker 1: Is like man, I'm got to pop this cat. That's
Speaker 1: that's just the way the youngest's been raised. Now, that's
Speaker 1: what they know. So you know, we on a mission
Speaker 1: to stop that. That's what I'm on. Like, that's my
Speaker 1: whole mission for now to forever. I'm on that. How
Speaker 1: I mean, it just seems so violent out there. Man,
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's it's gonna take a thing. It's gonna
Speaker 1: take a lot. Man. I ain't got all the answers,
Speaker 1: but I know for sure like giving short these jobs
Speaker 1: because I'd be around like some of the youngest and
Speaker 1: they like, man, we gotta get money. And you know
Speaker 1: when they get jobs, they're like, okay, man, maybe I
Speaker 1: ain't got to go out here and do no hustling.
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta be on the street. So that's one
Speaker 1: thing to help me. And Kanye did this something with
Speaker 1: our foundations where we helped get twenty thousand jobs for
Speaker 1: kids in Chicago. But then this program. You know, think
Speaker 1: about when we were being raised, we had stuff to do. Man,
Speaker 1: we could play ball, go whatever, play baseball, do something. Man.
Speaker 1: You just gotta have something for them to do this productive.
Speaker 1: I like, did you acknowledge it's a problem because a
Speaker 1: lot of people in Chicago you talk to them and
Speaker 1: they'd be like, it ain't that bad here. Stop believing
Speaker 1: everything you see on the news. Nah, man, I just
Speaker 1: left there yesterday and it was like, man, a little
Speaker 1: eleven year old girl just got killed. You having to
Speaker 1: sleepover now, it's a problem. Gee, Like when you got
Speaker 1: just innocent people getting shot. People thinking like man, everybody
Speaker 1: rolling around with guns. It's like, no, that's a problem, man.
Speaker 1: You can't ain't can't nobody be proud of that. And
Speaker 1: I said, when you go in the neighborhoods and you
Speaker 1: see this a lot of houses that are abandoned or
Speaker 1: burnt down, it's like, when are they gonna fix up
Speaker 1: the neighborhood too? Yeah, man, it's it's I ain't a lie.
Speaker 1: When I go home sometimes be like it's sad to me.
Speaker 1: I ride around my old neighborhood and it's like, man, man,
Speaker 1: this is how it is. But you know, like like
Speaker 1: I said, we're making moves. I always try to look
Speaker 1: at the positive, be like, man, we're about to change this,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's what it is that you know,
Speaker 1: I'm teaming up with people that's that's in the field
Speaker 1: because there's people out there doing that work every day,
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm teaming up with them too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got superintendents from Chicago want us to come talking
Speaker 1: to school. I'm scared, man. No, man, we need y'all
Speaker 1: to come talk. You think about my eyes looking crazy
Speaker 1: when you see what I'm showing, like yo, I mean,
Speaker 1: but really, when you get around some people, you kind
Speaker 1: of see, you know, people stop, they'd be happy to see.
Speaker 1: They'd be happy to see y'all man. And when and
Speaker 1: when they see people like yourself or you know, like
Speaker 1: they feel like they can do something because that's all
Speaker 1: it is. Sometimes it's just something that they're seeing somebody
Speaker 1: that made it, man, because think about it. There they
Speaker 1: ain't around nobody that's it's doing nothing. But they got brocked.
Speaker 1: They got that's very true. But they don't see that
Speaker 1: all the time. And sometimes it's just like man, they
Speaker 1: think you so distanced. I remember I did this song
Speaker 1: with this girl Drezy from from the Crib and she
Speaker 1: on the album and stuff. But um, and when I
Speaker 1: did it, like some some some people call me like man,
Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, they call it really something
Speaker 1: of my guys, And I was like man, I feel
Speaker 1: like we can make it your boy comment messing with Drezy.
Speaker 1: It's just like sometimes you think they think Oprah is
Speaker 1: just a distance, you know, like a president. Yeah she
Speaker 1: is party op Yeah, bro, we just did I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know about this, but she might have. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the name the album is Nobody's Smiling. Is that
Speaker 1: anything to do with Chicago? Yeah, that's what That's what
Speaker 1: that's for. That's it's really talking about the situation in Chicago.
Speaker 1: And uh, like I said, it's a call to action
Speaker 1: more than just being like, hey, we're gonna stay like this.
Speaker 1: Of course that came from that rock Himp thought, you know,
Speaker 1: from the ghetto and he said Nobody Smiling. But you know,
Speaker 1: it was just it was just me and no idea
Speaker 1: discussing what we could do to give back because I
Speaker 1: feel like I've always represented Chicago, but I could do more.
Speaker 1: You know, I got my foundation, I got different things.
Speaker 1: But it's like when you see what's going on, you
Speaker 1: feel like, man, I gotta do more. You know. You
Speaker 1: did a lot of collaborations with artists from Chicago as
Speaker 1: well a lot of the upcoming artists from Chicago. So
Speaker 1: that's a great thing. Yeah, like Little Herb and Treesy
Speaker 1: and um you know, I got Bibby and Audience and
Speaker 1: like who else g count and just dude k D.
Speaker 1: I got all them on my cover on my album covers,
Speaker 1: like I did different versions just saying hey, man, y'all
Speaker 1: because you know, one thing was like they were looking
Speaker 1: at me like, oh man, you know you know you're acting,
Speaker 1: you're doing this. I'm like, man, I'm here with y'all.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I ain't. I ain't every day in Chicago,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm here. I'm gonna do what I could
Speaker 1: do to help y'all. So that's what That's what I
Speaker 1: was going to ask that, you know what, you're doing
Speaker 1: so much acting and your movies are successful, why do
Speaker 1: you continue to do music like it's it's it's no
Speaker 1: money in the music industry no more. That's no money.
Speaker 1: It's it's harder to make money in the music industry now.
Speaker 1: It's not like before we you know, you could go
Speaker 1: into and make a couple hundred grand. It's just well,
Speaker 1: it's money. When your man becomes the executive vice president
Speaker 1: of the depth jam, let me cut this check for
Speaker 1: you for you know, yeah, you know what's what's good
Speaker 1: though with no id Man Like obviously I grew up
Speaker 1: with him since fourth grade and now we you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of went our separate ways for a second
Speaker 1: after three albums and then we got back to together
Speaker 1: after he's working with YA. But Man, one thing about
Speaker 1: him being executive at the label, it's kind of I
Speaker 1: work smarter because before you know, you being a studio
Speaker 1: recording using up your budget. But now you know, like
Speaker 1: you got somebody that knows how record companies work, and
Speaker 1: it's a lot of good insight that you get from
Speaker 1: having somebody. Plus man, they care about hip hop, him
Speaker 1: and hip hop. They them dudes like care about the culture.
Speaker 1: So that made me like be like, man, I definitely
Speaker 1: want to be on Deaf Jam. It's it's like a
Speaker 1: great place for me. If he wasn't the executive, it
Speaker 1: just depends on who was a person that was that
Speaker 1: was signing me really more than anything. But you know,
Speaker 1: as soon as it because at first he was like
Speaker 1: we was talking about it and he was like, Manna,
Speaker 1: I might you know be the executive And I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll let me know because I was just
Speaker 1: really for me you and you was asking why I
Speaker 1: make music. You gotta have a purpose for me. I
Speaker 1: gotta have like, like, what motivated me to do this
Speaker 1: album was I was like, man, this is a chance
Speaker 1: for me to give back for real and really talk
Speaker 1: about what's what's going on from a different perspective. You know,
Speaker 1: y'all here, You know, you got we got the Chief Keys,
Speaker 1: we got Little Reefs, we got Dirk, we got Baby Chance.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people just talking about Chicago. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna give a different perspective just because
Speaker 1: of what I've seen. Was there a period of time
Speaker 1: when you thought you and no Id wouldn't ever work
Speaker 1: together again, because y'all really had like a major you know,
Speaker 1: I think he felt slighted, like he wanted you to
Speaker 1: call on him to work and you just weren't. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean no, it was definitely for a while we
Speaker 1: weren't you know, we weren't cool point blank. And uh,
Speaker 1: I ain't know when we was going hook back up.
Speaker 1: But it was luck, you know, it was just like, man,
Speaker 1: he was working with ya in the studio and we
Speaker 1: just started getting back cool. It's like somebody you know
Speaker 1: him since fourth grade. You could always one thing when
Speaker 1: I'm working with him, he could always go back to, like,
Speaker 1: come on, man, you that south Side. You know you
Speaker 1: that a guy from the crib. Man like he reminds
Speaker 1: he reminds me of what we what we did this
Speaker 1: for him? What were doing for you know, you still
Speaker 1: work coosely with Kanye. Yeah, we didn't worked together in
Speaker 1: a long time. But you know, that's my guy. But
Speaker 1: it's like for me, I like work when ye when
Speaker 1: he in that zone and want to work, like, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if he you know, because he gotta be motivated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that type of person that's gotta like he's been
Speaker 1: working on his music. But you know, if he like, man,
Speaker 1: come on, Rosch, let's do this, let's do this, then
Speaker 1: I you know, then I'm with it. But if not,
Speaker 1: then I'm just like, man, we're good, we're friends. We
Speaker 1: ain't gotta work. You know, who do you think about
Speaker 1: his ranch and stuff? You ever put them to the
Speaker 1: side to give him some some og wisdom? Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: I didn't talk to him, not about not ring, because
Speaker 1: I like the fact that you know, he's speaking his mind.
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all, man, speak your mind. I think it's
Speaker 1: I think for me. It's like showing a certain courage
Speaker 1: to go out there and just say what you're feeling. Man,
Speaker 1: And that's what it is. He always been like that too,
Speaker 1: So I ain't never I don't never be like man,
Speaker 1: don't do you because he'd been he'd been like that
Speaker 1: since I know him. He come to my basement saying
Speaker 1: not saying some of the exact same things, but he
Speaker 1: had just say it's whatever's on his mind. So and
Speaker 1: my homies would be ready to box him, they'd be
Speaker 1: ready to move up on you know. That's just but
Speaker 1: but anyway, it's like I talked to him about this
Speaker 1: stuff that's going on in life, and then you know,
Speaker 1: he might gather some information, but the same token, I'll
Speaker 1: be learning from him too. You know, did you go
Speaker 1: to the winding? Yeah? I went to the wedding. It
Speaker 1: was good man, man, it was real top man. It
Speaker 1: was like simple, it felt real family. It seems simple
Speaker 1: and all. It seemed simple. Look, you know how you
Speaker 1: could buy something real nice, but you ain't gotta like,
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta ball it out like you know, like
Speaker 1: you could get a dope car you ain't gotta put on.
Speaker 1: It was that type of sample Okay, you're influence Italy.
Speaker 1: You're looking at this beautiful place. Well, you ain't got
Speaker 1: to do a whole lot. They had like just simple stuff, nice,
Speaker 1: nice wine, champagne and all that, and then you know,
Speaker 1: just good music man. And it felt family. Man. Everybody
Speaker 1: was having fun. Castle was wrapping, you know, at the wedding.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm saying it just felt simple. Went
Speaker 1: like I was thinking, you know, I ain't know what
Speaker 1: I ain't know what to expect to be honest, right,
Speaker 1: but it was real cool. Man. I went, my mother
Speaker 1: went with me and we just we just kicked it.
Speaker 1: You think you ever get married? I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I was I was thinking about that last night talking
Speaker 1: to one of my friends as lady friend. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if if I'm marriage material maybe maybe
Speaker 1: one day this before after you hit it. This is before.
Speaker 1: Why would you say you're not marriage material? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, man, I'll be focused on on my
Speaker 1: music a lot, and and work a lot acting in
Speaker 1: different things. So sometimes it's hard to balance with a relationship.
Speaker 1: You know, likes kind of guy. I do like relationships,
Speaker 1: But I'm saying a lot of times I've been in
Speaker 1: relationships I make I mean, I don't make my best albums,
Speaker 1: and like sometimes it's like, you know, when you're in
Speaker 1: a relationship, put it this way, you got to find it.
Speaker 1: I would have to find the right relationship or something.
Speaker 1: She could produce the album. No, no, no, But I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, a woman that understand the time you got
Speaker 1: to give to your work, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that's really more than anything, because I mean, ain't like
Speaker 1: I'm just only doing music. It's like I'm working to
Speaker 1: do other things. And a person got to really understand that.
Speaker 1: I think I saw somewhere where you said you were
Speaker 1: done with industry checks, like you wanted like to day
Speaker 1: to teach your journalists or something. It was done, he said.
Speaker 1: I say, I'm saying I ain't. You know, I was
Speaker 1: kind of over for a second for show, Like second,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be peeping on songs. So then
Speaker 1: so so for me now it's like who you know,
Speaker 1: if the right woman coming, if she a teacher or
Speaker 1: or actor, actress, I'm with it. You know, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna look at the person more than anything. You have
Speaker 1: a nice little roster industry chickens. Yeah, Serena Williams. That's
Speaker 1: that's about Washington. Ain't scandals easy easy? She married that
Speaker 1: you admitted the combat Jack. I think it was that
Speaker 1: everybody really does got that that good good like to
Speaker 1: know what it is. I mean, Erica got something with us,
Speaker 1: She got something special, mankind and twisted for a little bit.
Speaker 1: She hit you about that, like, why are you talking
Speaker 1: about my box on on interviews? Noah, she just read
Speaker 1: she just retweeted some good stuff, like, you know, Erica
Speaker 1: raw girl. Man, she got a lot to us. So
Speaker 1: she from the hood, point blank. She just one of
Speaker 1: those people from the hood that's artsy, artistic and spiritual
Speaker 1: and all this shit. You know, she got a lot
Speaker 1: to us. But you can't be man when it guys
Speaker 1: it's positive things about your box. Yea, girls, tips, she said,
Speaker 1: drink raw cranberry juice. How you get that about? She said,
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of veggies green juices. Yeah. Now
Speaker 1: I also read somewhere that you were thinking about investing
Speaker 1: in Broadway plays and and things like that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: something you're considering, because I heard it's pretty rough. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I want I want to do Broadway. I'm gonna do Broadway.
Speaker 1: As an actor. But also I'm looking, you know at
Speaker 1: producing some some Broadway plays because I'm getting into that
Speaker 1: as far as my live performance, making it more the
Speaker 1: tore like, you know, because it's just, man, I've been
Speaker 1: rocking shows for a long time, so I want to
Speaker 1: bring something new to the table for the audience too.
Speaker 1: But pay needs you right now. Just ended Sunday and
Speaker 1: everybody's seeing the play is pretty good, but it just
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't think it's Financially they
Speaker 1: said it, they said financially it was just really rough.
Speaker 1: They didn't know all the things they had to pay for.
Speaker 1: And you know, as far as getting the audience to
Speaker 1: half a million dollars a week, hip hop on Broadway
Speaker 1: is tough for audience. Yeah, I mean I think you gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, bring something that's gonna have it. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be real true. But at the Saint Token Universal, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I didn't get to see the play,
Speaker 1: so I can't say how that play was. But I
Speaker 1: do check out theater and that's why I want to,
Speaker 1: you know, do some theater myself. What would you recommend
Speaker 1: to go see your play? For? Well, all the guys
Speaker 1: out there looking to take somebody on a date. I
Speaker 1: go to brower all the time. What's some of your favorites.
Speaker 1: The last thing I saw was Rocky on Broadway. I
Speaker 1: believe how was that? It was good? I didn't like
Speaker 1: it as a musical. I want to see Motown to musical.
Speaker 1: I'm taking my mom to see that. My mother. I
Speaker 1: went with my mother and my grandmother to see that.
Speaker 1: That was a good play. I mean, a good musical.
Speaker 1: But I like stuff to drama, like like, oh this
Speaker 1: this is this play called Death of a Salesman. It's
Speaker 1: like an old classic play and Philip seymo Hoffman was
Speaker 1: in that. Before you pass I went and seeing Seeing
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to see I'm going to see this
Speaker 1: one called Cabaret. This lady named Michel Ways. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll be into the different things because as an actor,
Speaker 1: I gotta keep learning too and keep growing. So that's
Speaker 1: why I'll be checking out everything. As you as you
Speaker 1: get older, do you look for other ways to perform
Speaker 1: as an artist? Because I always saying you're one of
Speaker 1: the artists that as you grow, you're not gonna look
Speaker 1: stupid performing the songs you got. Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel you on that. Uh. I actually have been
Speaker 1: like I've been growing with my performance because I used
Speaker 1: I used to just like jump, just feel the energy
Speaker 1: and jump up. But now like lately, I've been understanding
Speaker 1: that the presentation go like you give it that drama
Speaker 1: and stuff, you know, and that's part of that is
Speaker 1: coming from me just understanding what the story is. And
Speaker 1: so now my live performance sometimes I'm just like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I might do a song sitting on the
Speaker 1: stool for second and then just come out and then
Speaker 1: just get live on another turn up on another song
Speaker 1: then you know. So yeah, my performance is definitely growing.
Speaker 1: And it's like you said, I want to make music
Speaker 1: that like when I'm sixty years old, I could be like, man,
Speaker 1: this song was cold, and I'm still could rocket. I
Speaker 1: was surprised when I seen you perform, and I'm surprised
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't talk about your performance because
Speaker 1: you go from, like you said, sitting on the stool
Speaker 1: to break dancing in the middle of the set, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you ain't gonna be doing that when you're six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, but you know, that's I feel like
Speaker 1: a show. I've seen seen people doing great shows like
Speaker 1: you know, I used to see Big Daddy Kane and
Speaker 1: care Us one and shoot, I've seen the Jackson five
Speaker 1: when I was a short. That was my first concert.
Speaker 1: So it was like, Man, I think about shows and
Speaker 1: they I really, you know, want to perform. And one
Speaker 1: thing I know I gotta do is like in performances,
Speaker 1: some some songs. Sometimes I'm doing shows, ain't like the
Speaker 1: crowd know all my songs. Sometimes they do, but when
Speaker 1: they don't, you gotta you gotta win them over. So
Speaker 1: it's got to be in the performance. Then then just
Speaker 1: like you know, if I had all just all hits,
Speaker 1: it would be a different thing. But but I still
Speaker 1: want to give a performance just because of where I
Speaker 1: come from. You know. Now you reacted to Marvel Comics
Speaker 1: andnown seen that there's a black Captain America. You said
Speaker 1: you thought it was a great thing. And I remember
Speaker 1: at one point you were supposed to play a green
Speaker 1: lantern before. Yeah, man, yeah, I was. I was a
Speaker 1: green lantern for a minute because we was doing the
Speaker 1: movie Justice League or you had the gig. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had a gig I had. We went down to Australia
Speaker 1: and man, I had to suit on and everything it
Speaker 1: was like I was ready, man, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I was gig because I was like man at that time,
Speaker 1: this was two thousand and eight. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: it ain't really black superheroes out there. And this dude
Speaker 1: that was it was a Latino brother too, that was
Speaker 1: playing He was playing Superman. And at the time we
Speaker 1: was like, man, black and Latino kids go see us
Speaker 1: and be like, damn, I could be a superhero because
Speaker 1: you think about a lot of superheroes ain't seeing it's
Speaker 1: just only white. So anyway, it was one of those
Speaker 1: things that it didn't the movie didn't go after a minute.
Speaker 1: But if it come back around, hopefully I'll do. You know, well, no,
Speaker 1: it's coming out. They're doing it. They starting with the
Speaker 1: Batman versus Superman, introducing a lot of the Justice League
Speaker 1: and that they supposed to do the movie in like
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen or so. I'm just hoping they used the
Speaker 1: black green landish Yeah, Superman, that would be That would
Speaker 1: be dope. But now they already got that Superman, so
Speaker 1: they probably gonna use that Superman. They gotta have some
Speaker 1: Spanish cast in it somewhere. Man, how did they tell
Speaker 1: you that, Joe, You're just you're not gonna be green
Speaker 1: Landing no more. Now. Now, what happened was the movie
Speaker 1: just didn't then it fell apart with where it just
Speaker 1: didn't golf because it was a writer strike at the time,
Speaker 1: and they was like, nah, but but really the truth
Speaker 1: I heard that, you know, the people that were doing
Speaker 1: behind Batman was like, we don't want to have no
Speaker 1: Justice League come out before we finished the Batman trilogy. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand that he's ruining that whole franchise. Man,
Speaker 1: he sucks. Yeah, they I mean, I'm a Marvel guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your mother green chattered on his own. Absolutely, mane that's
Speaker 1: your favorite. Absolutely. You hate that you have that tattoo.
Speaker 1: I do because I mean it means something to me.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to walk around with the water.
Speaker 1: Ain't my daughter six and she's asking me about why
Speaker 1: do you have that on y'all having no real explanation
Speaker 1: for it. Man, that's the only that's the reason why
Speaker 1: I ain't really getting no task, And I'll be changing
Speaker 1: my mind too much. I'd be like, man, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: like it maybe three three months later, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? You ever thought about getting one? Though? I
Speaker 1: mean sometimes I thought about it quick, but I ain't
Speaker 1: what you get, man, I don't know. I have to
Speaker 1: be something like man, I think angel wings or something
Speaker 1: like that. You know, but I ain't really that ain't
Speaker 1: mean the tats ain't me Serena really break your heart? Man?
Speaker 1: Because I saw an interview with black TV you admitted
Speaker 1: that the whole issue with drink was over Serena. Well,
Speaker 1: let me let me let me break it down real
Speaker 1: quick so I can be specific. Okay, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: me and Serena was together, we broke up. I don't
Speaker 1: know specifically a hund drake if if you know, obviously
Speaker 1: it felt like something's going on. I ain't. I ain't
Speaker 1: dwelling it too much. He thought Drake was hitting it
Speaker 1: when y'all together, nah after and then so they ain't.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no problem with that. You do what
Speaker 1: you do, even even if even if somebody dealing with
Speaker 1: your lady, why you would have they ain't They ain't
Speaker 1: they fault. That's that's that's on your lady, You and
Speaker 1: your lady. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't. So I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't tripping on that your friend, unless stay your friend,
Speaker 1: right friend, he looked so um so like she was on.
Speaker 1: Drake was on. After while, I felt like in some
Speaker 1: of his songs he was like saying stuff that I
Speaker 1: felt like it was subliminal to you, and I was
Speaker 1: like about him. Yeah, I was like that. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you just don't know it like nowadays,
Speaker 1: you know, cast be doing them sneak this is. I'm like, nah, man,
Speaker 1: I just come out and say what I gotta say.
Speaker 1: So I feel after while, it was like I don't
Speaker 1: know enoughing. It was like one it was a show
Speaker 1: where I was at. Now I left, and then Drake
Speaker 1: was like, man, he said something to the you know,
Speaker 1: out out in the crowd, like man, you know, he
Speaker 1: was saying some tough stuff. So then I can't remember,
Speaker 1: like man, but it was something like man, yo, don't
Speaker 1: they don't they know, they don't know. They don't want
Speaker 1: to mess with me though, and can't mess with me.
Speaker 1: But look at that right there. So then I was
Speaker 1: like I was like, all right, you know, all right,
Speaker 1: nice time. You know, it was that time because I
Speaker 1: knew he was directing it to me, so that's when it,
Speaker 1: you know. But we kept it on record and then
Speaker 1: everything got squashed. That's real for you to admit that though.
Speaker 1: Did you ever like call Serena and say, yo, you
Speaker 1: messing with homie? Yeah? I mean I definitely talked to
Speaker 1: about it. I definitely talked to about it. But you know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, once once they you know,
Speaker 1: she ain't your lady, ain't too much. You know, what
Speaker 1: can I say that ain't got gonna do with me
Speaker 1: at that point? Would you do anything different now? Like
Speaker 1: would you reach out to him for us and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you stubbing me and that's not your friends? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know him like that. And but you know, if
Speaker 1: I had a song, I would have said face to
Speaker 1: face because I'm I'm I'm a person who go confront
Speaker 1: the situation like that's just what it is. And I
Speaker 1: would have just said, face to face, y'all, you're dissing me,
Speaker 1: what's up? You know? Like what's up? Like you got
Speaker 1: something against me? You know, and we go from there.
Speaker 1: But you know what the worst is when you date
Speaker 1: somebody and then she starts dating somebody else, but she
Speaker 1: tells them your business. Oh man. Yeah, yeah, see I
Speaker 1: try not to even you know, I try not to
Speaker 1: even get with women that I feel got that got
Speaker 1: that gene. And you know what I'm saying, like like
Speaker 1: I if she if if a woman talking a lot
Speaker 1: around me about certain stuff, all right, it ain't she moving.
Speaker 1: You talk to you about people, she'll talk to other
Speaker 1: people about exactly exactly, so she talking to me about
Speaker 1: So I don't even you know, I don't even keep
Speaker 1: them in my circle. They easily I don't work about
Speaker 1: do stage right? You changed a lot. What was the
Speaker 1: craziest thing that that relationship made you do? Can you
Speaker 1: auction off some of those office now? But I think
Speaker 1: the craziest thing I did was drinking wheat grass all
Speaker 1: the time. That was grassed people. That was a great thing.
Speaker 1: But what that was a positive? Okay that that was
Speaker 1: It wasn't bad then, Actually that that relationship wasn't bad.
Speaker 1: It was like it was it was some changes going on,
Speaker 1: but it was like good change. Like we're talking about
Speaker 1: weak grass and it went like and it went like
Speaker 1: she was like, yo, drink this. It was like like
Speaker 1: you around somebody that's healthy and you and my goal
Speaker 1: was like, man, I want to be healthier. You know.
Speaker 1: I came to New York and I was starting to
Speaker 1: get you know, get it to myself more. Moved to
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and was like, man, I'm gonna do this. So
Speaker 1: I was around people that was like creative. Like it
Speaker 1: went like she was like, yo, you should put on
Speaker 1: that crochet she you know, I was trying to find
Speaker 1: my I was trying to find my style. But then
Speaker 1: that you know, within my individuality, within that. But you
Speaker 1: know that's a that's a strong woman. I give it
Speaker 1: up to each she comes in Chicago City to you
Speaker 1: when you was like where you at, bro They was like,
Speaker 1: what where you at? Man? What's up? What's like? What's popping? Bro? What?
Speaker 1: We need to come talk to you? Man? We need
Speaker 1: what we need to do? My friends? You know, my
Speaker 1: mother said, mom, you lost me around Electric Circus Like
Speaker 1: he's a bit out there, right, Yeah? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I went out there sometimes. You know, honestly, sometimes that
Speaker 1: for me, like that's part of being a like an artist.
Speaker 1: You gotta go through those things because if I kind
Speaker 1: of keep creating or keep doing the same thing, then
Speaker 1: people throw that away. So it's like you gotta follow
Speaker 1: whatever you really are and if it's something that you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna lose some people. You lose them. Hopefully
Speaker 1: you come back with with a B after that or something.
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be like all right, cool, you
Speaker 1: you're back with some stuff. You know, nothing to hope
Speaker 1: what happens to Kanye. I feel like Jesus was his
Speaker 1: electric Circus. I hope his next albums is B. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I thought Jesus was. I think Jesus is dope,
Speaker 1: but I also think that Jesus was. I mean the
Speaker 1: reason why I called it his electric Circus because some people,
Speaker 1: some of his natural fans, was like, what is this?
Speaker 1: But he he knows how to make songs and market
Speaker 1: them so well. Electric Circus didn't get no like publicity. Really,
Speaker 1: it was like it was like this and like you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't getting out there like Kanye was out there
Speaker 1: with with Jesus, you know what I mean. Record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's so record and he and he went out to it. Yeah. Ever,
Speaker 1: feel like you've missed out with about due because you
Speaker 1: didn't get a baby like all the other got a baby.
Speaker 1: A baby. Look, I don't you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be in um. I got I got one daughter.
Speaker 1: I definitely don't want no more baby mamas. You know,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like, but then you also
Speaker 1: don't feel like your marriage material. So basically so I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't look let me, I'll say this, I might
Speaker 1: walk out the building. It might be a woman there,
Speaker 1: and we started talking and the things started going forward.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying right now, I guess I'm just in
Speaker 1: the mode or like, like, man, I'm enjoying being single.
Speaker 1: I don't mean I don't like go out. I'm be
Speaker 1: going out with ladies and dating and then you know,
Speaker 1: as things evolved, if it happens, it happened. Um, but
Speaker 1: but as far you know, I definitely made a decision
Speaker 1: after one child, I'm like, I'm only having a baby
Speaker 1: if I'm married that at that point, because you know,
Speaker 1: the baby mamas situation ain't the best. If you got
Speaker 1: to slip up though, ain't no slip ups. Man, you
Speaker 1: gotta hear, I'm grown man, now you can't you know
Speaker 1: what you're up. Yeah, I know what I'm but it
Speaker 1: ain't no slip ups. Has your mom ever met one
Speaker 1: of your women that you were dating and wanted you
Speaker 1: to get married to them? Yeah? Yeah, she definitely My
Speaker 1: mother has been. You know, she even like man, why
Speaker 1: don't you get married? She wants the best for me
Speaker 1: and she thinks marriage is the best. But you know,
Speaker 1: I know what's good for me, so I do you know,
Speaker 1: I do what's right because I know I'm a person
Speaker 1: who's like I'd rather be honest and be like I
Speaker 1: ain't at that point yet, than they'll be leading somebody
Speaker 1: on and it's the saint token, like I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: just do it, get married because that's what you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do it. Because my mother say, yeah, why don't
Speaker 1: you get married? It's like, nah, man, you gotta be
Speaker 1: something that's real sacred for real out of Taragi, Erica
Speaker 1: and Serena, who the mom really ain't carry that's the carry, Like,
Speaker 1: that's I think carry first. Um My mother loves My
Speaker 1: mother loved to Rogie and she am funny enough. She
Speaker 1: got cool with Serena, like even more after we broke up,
Speaker 1: which is crazy we broke up with Serena. It was,
Speaker 1: but now I'm you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: after a while, I was kind of like, man, that's
Speaker 1: I like how they got a little sisterhood, you know,
Speaker 1: because it's like, at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: got love for Serena, so I want to see us successful.
Speaker 1: So she talking to somebody older and getting some advice,
Speaker 1: or they just kicking it. It's all good. But it
Speaker 1: was funny that they got cool after. I mean they
Speaker 1: weren't like enemies or nothing before, but they got cool after.
Speaker 1: That's me Serena really loves you, man. She wanted to
Speaker 1: keep in touch on ways someone euse. She needed that connection.
Speaker 1: You know, that's your words, that's get it back. I
Speaker 1: don't go back, bro, go back? Why why don't you
Speaker 1: go back? I mean it's like, once I've experienced that person,
Speaker 1: and I feel like, man, I just feel like sometimes
Speaker 1: life moves on. I can't say I never would go back,
Speaker 1: but most of the times that like Serena and Erica
Speaker 1: was the most serious relationships that I had as an adult.
Speaker 1: And after one of those things where I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I just I gotta move forward because to work with it.
Speaker 1: I was real love right that both of them women
Speaker 1: I was about to I could have married, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's just like, well, you know I got obviously ain't
Speaker 1: supposed to be there. That's what I feel like. It's
Speaker 1: like when I ain't supposed to be there, We're just
Speaker 1: supposed to be friends. So I just keep it moving, right,
Speaker 1: How did you all develop such a great relationship with mine? Angelo?
Speaker 1: But we was yeah, rest in peace to to doctor Angelo.
Speaker 1: You know what. I did this this benefit with her,
Speaker 1: And actually before I did the benefit, I went to
Speaker 1: went to her house just to meet with her because
Speaker 1: she knew me, but she ain't knowing me that well.
Speaker 1: And then she just wanted to get to know me
Speaker 1: before I did the benefit, and we just was talking, man,
Speaker 1: and just talking about talking about um, talking about Paul Roverson,
Speaker 1: talking about all type of things in life, and then
Speaker 1: we just got cool. We did, and then I would
Speaker 1: go down for her birthday parties and uh, like, I'm
Speaker 1: glad I went to Oprah through her this party like
Speaker 1: last year, and I was like seeing if I could go,
Speaker 1: it couldn't go, and I just went. Man, I was
Speaker 1: feeling sick. I went. Man, I'm glad I made it
Speaker 1: because it was like, well, yeah, that was the last
Speaker 1: time I seen her, and uh yeah, man, I'm glad
Speaker 1: I went. It was one of those things. We had
Speaker 1: a great time too, but it's just one of those things.
Speaker 1: It was something. Man when she um the day the
Speaker 1: day before she the day before she passed, I was
Speaker 1: doing this movie. I ain't stunning, but I was doing
Speaker 1: this movie with Oprah and we was talking about her
Speaker 1: and the truth I was doing this movie were open.
Speaker 1: We was talking about her and she was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I'm gonna go see Doctor Angelou. And man,
Speaker 1: the next day she passed. It was it was kind
Speaker 1: of crazy. It was like, I mean, it was crazy,
Speaker 1: but she didn't. Man, she lived the full life. Though
Speaker 1: she criticized do you want for using the N word?
Speaker 1: Did that convoy ever stop you from using it? Or
Speaker 1: how did they know? It didn't really stop me because
Speaker 1: I understood where she was coming from, and it was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta give respect to her, but for saying that,
Speaker 1: because you know, she got a whole another understanding of that,
Speaker 1: and uh, but you know I am who I am
Speaker 1: in the purpose of me using it ain't to bring
Speaker 1: nobody down, So like my intentions wasn't that. So that's
Speaker 1: why you know, I was like, Hey, I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I respect you for. But she the beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: She was on that album too, and she you know,
Speaker 1: regardless of whether I used that word or not, she
Speaker 1: still was like, look, this is my son or grandson,
Speaker 1: so she gave me love. That's what it is. Well
Speaker 1: albums and stores to because you know he's a socially conscious. Brothers,
Speaker 1: someone asking this, what do you think our number one
Speaker 1: enemy out here is the police? When you see situations
Speaker 1: like Eric Gardener that happened this weekend, are all ourselves?
Speaker 1: When you see the forty shot in Chicago, I think
Speaker 1: it's I think it's ourselves more than anything, because like
Speaker 1: you can't really control other other force, you know, just
Speaker 1: like a human being, Like you could control yourself, Like
Speaker 1: you could get around a person and if they acting wow,
Speaker 1: and they acted a fool, you ain't got to act
Speaker 1: the food with them. And like I think the community,
Speaker 1: we don't have to act the food. The police could
Speaker 1: be acting the food and it will, Honestly, it will
Speaker 1: be some some incidents where we may lose some people
Speaker 1: to police violence, but I believe we're losing you know,
Speaker 1: more people at our own hands and our own like
Speaker 1: ignorance and the way we you know, acted towards each other.
Speaker 1: But man, it's just it's just lack of love. Bro.
Speaker 1: I feel like we hate the system more than we
Speaker 1: love ourselves. Yeah, and then when it happened four with
Speaker 1: July week, and I think it was like the cops
Speaker 1: were involved in like six of the shootings. Yeah, people
Speaker 1: were won't matter at the cops than the other seventy
Speaker 1: people that got shot by bous. Yeah, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean we you know, I hear you know. We
Speaker 1: talk about a lot of stuff going on in the world.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it's a lot going on. And it
Speaker 1: ain't just in Chicago. It's all over. But Chicago has
Speaker 1: been tough, and it's like, man, you just gotta y'all
Speaker 1: ask what we could do to help. Man, we just
Speaker 1: gotta get them hope. Man. Short these talking about they
Speaker 1: ain't got no hope, and I hate him say that
Speaker 1: all the time. I just heard some some kids in
Speaker 1: my program like talking about, man, we don't want to
Speaker 1: go outside. We don't even want to you know, they
Speaker 1: feeling like there ain't nothing they can do. So we
Speaker 1: just gotta give them hope in different ways. And it
Speaker 1: ain't no just one way. We get them hope. Going
Speaker 1: to Chicago, yes, I you coming coming were the worst.
Speaker 1: I went to Chicago, I went to Anglewood and tell
Speaker 1: them what happened. Nothing, what happened? Shout out to my
Speaker 1: guy Spendso from Chicago. I was talking about great young rapper.
Speaker 1: You're telling what happened while you were sitting. I was
Speaker 1: all over the place. I was in the students shots knowing. Gosh,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I heard something in the distance, yea, yea.
Speaker 1: When you hear that in Brooklyn sometimes I heard that
Speaker 1: on my block. This weekend, environment, we're gonna go out
Speaker 1: there and speak to the school with a lot of
Speaker 1: fruit of Islam. Security as white guys in suits too,
Speaker 1: A couple of people you can call in Chicago. You'll
Speaker 1: be fine. Okay, Well, Nobody Smiling is in stores right now.
Speaker 1: Make sure you go pick it up as his ten
Speaker 1: studio album. We appreciate you joining us, bro, thanks for
Speaker 1: having me too long. Usually you gotta come up more frequently. Man, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm here many time you're in town, or you come through,
Speaker 1: come through, man, man, thank you A man, I would say,
Speaker 1: be like water for chocolate or this new album. Nobody's Smiling,
Speaker 1: Okay for real, Alright, it's the Breakfast Club. It's coming
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club.