WEBVTT - Magical Mystery Tour

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Mystery tours was just sort of the quick hit.

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<v Speaker 1>You get on the bus somewhere in Liverpool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you weren't supposed to know where you were going.

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<v Speaker 3>You get on the bus and you'd trust the operators

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<v Speaker 3>to take you somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was nice to get away and you couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>really afford much more.

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<v Speaker 4>Playground spectacular, playground, extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 3>There were advertisers a mystery tour, but often wasn't so

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<v Speaker 3>much a mystery.

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<v Speaker 4>You were going to Blackpool, Blackpool and millions of Britons

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<v Speaker 4>and millions from overseas.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just liked the idea that you didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>where you were going, and it's like, come with me,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll go somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are we going? It's a mystery?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, great, let go.

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<v Speaker 1>When a man buys a ticket for a magical mystery theater,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows what to expect.

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<v Speaker 3>We guarantee him the drip of a lifetime, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>just what he gets, the incredible or magically mister tool.

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<v Speaker 2>Woll up, woll up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Paul will do And I've been fortunate to spend

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<v Speaker 1>time with one of the greatest songwriters of our era, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Will you look at me, I'm going up to I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually a performer.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, Sir Paul McCartney. We worked together on a

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<v Speaker 1>book looking at the lyrics of more than one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty of the songs, and we recorded many hours

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<v Speaker 1>of our conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>Well actually a song, my god, Well that crypta hoy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is McCartney, A life in lyrics, a masterclass, a memoir,

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<v Speaker 1>and an improvised journey with one of the most iconic

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<v Speaker 1>figures in popular music in this episode magical Mystery Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>When McCartney was growing up, the notion of a mystery

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<v Speaker 1>tour involved paying to get on a bus and be

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<v Speaker 1>transported to an unknown location for the day. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>is there was very little mystery about it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>The destination was usually Blackpool, a resort on the northwest

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<v Speaker 1>English coast.

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<v Speaker 4>Coaches carry three million passengers each year, and each season

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<v Speaker 4>eight million arrived to experience the delights of.

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<v Speaker 5>This the lamp.

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<v Speaker 1>There, you'd be able to sit by the ocean, ride

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<v Speaker 1>roller coasters and see the impressive festival of lights before

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<v Speaker 1>heading home.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a cheap holiday, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have any time or money, you just run out

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<v Speaker 3>for the day and it often involved a sharra bank

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<v Speaker 3>a coach and you'd all just get on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you go for a day trip.

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<v Speaker 3>Blackpool would be the sort of star day trip and

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes to see the lights.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just sort of the quick hit take the

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<v Speaker 2>kids out.

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<v Speaker 3>Normally it's like a seaside place where you would get

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<v Speaker 3>some o'zo down the kid's throats.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to a little fresh air. A Blackpool day

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<v Speaker 1>trip provided a great deal of entertainment by way of

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<v Speaker 1>its fair ground attractions.

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<v Speaker 2>That was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Blackpool was really pretty cool because they had a fun

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<v Speaker 3>for and the famous thing there was the the laughing

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<v Speaker 3>It was a guy in a little sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>model that just laughed.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd stand in front of it and you couldn't resist laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't a real person.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, it's a recording, I see.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a little model and they kind of moved.

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<v Speaker 2>It was jolly bild.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy McCartney's childhood enthusiasm for the Carnivalesque sets the tone

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<v Speaker 1>for Magical Mystery Tour, a song written as an opener

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<v Speaker 1>for the w P of the same name. The Blackpool

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<v Speaker 1>Laughing Man wasn't the only carnivalesque laughter on McCartney's mind

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<v Speaker 1>while writing Magical Mystery Tour. Shortly before he wrote those lyrics,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Samuels, billed as Napoleon the Fourteenth, released a hit novelty.

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<v Speaker 6>Song, Remember when you ran away and I got on

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<v Speaker 6>my knees and begged you not to leave, because I

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<v Speaker 6>go ber sir, well you left me anyhow, and then

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<v Speaker 6>the days got worse and worse, and now you see

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<v Speaker 6>I've gone completely out of my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, let's talk about this phrase that coming

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<v Speaker 1>to take you, to take you away? Right?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So it was a song and it came to

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<v Speaker 1>me this morning as I was thinking of this. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those songs that one should probably have forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>about completely, the novelty song.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes They're coming to take me away, haha, They're coming

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<v Speaker 6>to take me away.

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<v Speaker 3>Hoe to the funny farm where.

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<v Speaker 6>Life is beautiful all the time, and be happy to.

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<v Speaker 3>See they're going to take you away. Hah, They're coming

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<v Speaker 3>to take you away, Which was quite an amazing song

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<v Speaker 3>because it was wor was it about mental health?

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<v Speaker 2>It was?

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<v Speaker 3>It certainly sounded like and we were laughing at it,

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<v Speaker 3>which you know, I think those post war time years,

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<v Speaker 3>people laughed at stuff, even dark stuff. In fact, there

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<v Speaker 3>was dark humor, quite a lot of sick jokes that

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<v Speaker 3>were called, and you were encouraged to laugh at it

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<v Speaker 3>as a way of defeating it, sure, as a way

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<v Speaker 3>of not letting it get you down, so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're coming to take you away. And it was I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure that was an echo of that.

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<v Speaker 1>As fair Ground Barkers and Mystery to her guides. The

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<v Speaker 1>Beatles repeat this nod to Napoleon the Fourteenth Song, their

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<v Speaker 1>appeals to the listener escalating with each verse.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other thing about this is it's waiting to

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<v Speaker 3>take you away the first time, and the next time

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<v Speaker 3>it's hoping to take you away, and the last time

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<v Speaker 3>next to the last time is it's coming to take

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<v Speaker 3>you away, and then it's dying to take you away.

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<v Speaker 1>In Magical Mystery Tour, the idea of being taken away

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<v Speaker 1>is more whimsical, But in Napoleon the Fourteenth Song, it's

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<v Speaker 1>clear that the maniacal speaker would be taken away to

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<v Speaker 1>a mental institution. Billing for Christ's sakes, you must be

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<v Speaker 1>committed right. This setting loomed large in the public imagination

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<v Speaker 1>after the release of ken Casey's nineteen sixty two novel

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<v Speaker 1>One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, later adapted into a

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<v Speaker 1>film starring Jack Nicholson.

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<v Speaker 6>Jesus, I mean, you guys do nothing but complain about

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<v Speaker 6>how you can't stand it in this place here, and

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<v Speaker 6>then you haven't got the guts just to walk out.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think you are? For Christie crazy or something?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you're not, You're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Casey would embark on his own version of a

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<v Speaker 1>magical mystery tour in nineteen sixty four. He and his

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<v Speaker 1>comrades drove across the United States in a school bus

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<v Speaker 1>covered with psychedelic designs. This group called themselves the Merry Pranksters,

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<v Speaker 1>and they firmly embraced a countercultural mindset. Here's Casey giving

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<v Speaker 1>voice to that mindset outside of San Francisco Courthouse in

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<v Speaker 1>the mid nineteen sixties. Casey, do you feel that you

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<v Speaker 1>have the right to do what you want, whatever you want,

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<v Speaker 1>and still live in this world?

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<v Speaker 6>I feel a man has the right to be as

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<v Speaker 6>big as he feels it in him to be.

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<v Speaker 1>While McCartney wasn't physically on ken Casey's hallucinogenic buss, it

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<v Speaker 1>may have been this quintessential nineteen sixties image which prompted

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<v Speaker 1>Magical Mystery to her. The Psychedelic Bus is particularly recognizable

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<v Speaker 1>in the Beatles Surreal made for TV movie that accompanied

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<v Speaker 1>the album, in which the band and an eccentric group

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<v Speaker 1>of tourists pile into a coach and encounter various magical incidents.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls, welcome to

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<v Speaker 5>magical Mystery. To all, I am your career, Jolly Jimmy Duncan,

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<v Speaker 5>and you are all my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>The film was largely improvised. Ringo Starr once recalled that

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<v Speaker 1>the closest they got to a script was a circle

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<v Speaker 1>that Paul McCartney drew on a blank piece of paper,

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<v Speaker 1>with the idea that they would start with the bus

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<v Speaker 1>and fill in the plot as they went along.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, I'll tell you something.

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<v Speaker 7>You ain't coming away with me anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>Who bought the tickets to the trip?

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not. I'm taking you.

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<v Speaker 7>You're not taking me anyway the film.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea of the film thought had been inspired by

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Casey's Mary Pranksters, whom you came across when accompanying

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<v Speaker 1>Jane Asher on a West Coast Theater tour in April

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven. That's that's what I'm that's what we're hearing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well I don't know about these things, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know some of these things. I'd say, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not even sure I met Ken Casey, but then someone

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<v Speaker 3>shows me a photograph as you with him. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure that connection. But it was connected inasmuch

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<v Speaker 3>as we were all connected in this generation, this crowd

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<v Speaker 3>of us, who'd you know, who liked the same kind

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<v Speaker 3>of things, And you know, it was getting around.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout my conversations with Paul McCartney, it became clear to

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<v Speaker 1>me that what he himself remembers is in many ways

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<v Speaker 1>bond to the story that a generation told about itself.

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<v Speaker 3>We always used to say, people say, oh, you were

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<v Speaker 3>the absolute leaders of the generation, and we said.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not really.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there were plenty of other people who we

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<v Speaker 3>were influenced by. So you know, if you had Alan Ginsburg,

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<v Speaker 3>Alan would be thinking very similarly to this.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a lot in almost with people like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the fact that I mean there is a

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<v Speaker 1>there's got to be a connection between the Beats and

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<v Speaker 1>the Beatles.

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<v Speaker 3>We were very aware of all of that and that

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<v Speaker 3>have preceded us, So we were really interested in that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of quite a thrill, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>To know that there was this whole new thing breaking

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<v Speaker 3>out across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>The Beats weren't the only literary tradition. The Beatles were

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<v Speaker 1>plugging into it. Before the Beats, there had been the

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<v Speaker 1>Romantic poets like Samuel Taylor Coleridge, who embraced personal liberty, whimsy,

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<v Speaker 1>and even drug inspired visions. Coleridge's poem Kubla Khan, read

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<v Speaker 1>here by Sir John Neville, was almost certainly written under

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<v Speaker 1>the influence of opium.

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<v Speaker 8>In Xanadu did Kubla can a stately pleasured ome decree

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<v Speaker 8>where Alph the sacred river ran through caverns measureless to man,

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<v Speaker 8>down to a sunless sea. So twice five miles of

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<v Speaker 8>fertile ground with walls and towers were girdled round. There

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<v Speaker 8>were gardens bright with sinuous rills, where blossomed many an

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<v Speaker 8>incense bearing tree. And here were forests ancient as the hills,

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<v Speaker 8>enfolding sunny spots of greenery.

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<v Speaker 3>In school, as I took those kind of classes, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>been told, you know that he was a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a drug addict, so you knew there was a history

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<v Speaker 3>of people writing about that and weirdness and exotic stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and this and that. Again, roll up is another illusion

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<v Speaker 3>round because we were rolling up cigarettes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, That had not occurred to me, of course, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know that's what it is, roll up, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all our friends and oxy temporaries would spot that, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>that's great, let's roll up a joint. So we could

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<v Speaker 3>have carried on with that with that, but then we

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<v Speaker 3>start to try and get it into a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the magical mystery tour.

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<v Speaker 3>Rather than just an ordinary It could have been the

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<v Speaker 3>weekend Mystery Tour, but you know, because it was magical,

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<v Speaker 3>so we were we're putting trying to put this this

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<v Speaker 3>song into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sort of hazy world.

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<v Speaker 1>In their desire to break from tradition, these poets, artists

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<v Speaker 1>and musicians established a new tradition of their own. He

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<v Speaker 1>also find inspiration in unusual phrases which could be given

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<v Speaker 1>new context.

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<v Speaker 3>So something like Satisfaction Guaranteed is like roll up. There

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<v Speaker 3>are phrases that you'd heard a million times, but now

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<v Speaker 3>we were putting a spin on them. Instead of coming

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<v Speaker 3>to my fir ground. We're saying more than that now

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<v Speaker 3>to the ego listener satisfaction guarantee. That's the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>thing you'd see on an advert for vacuum cleaner.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you're drawing on these phrases that have

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<v Speaker 1>currency at the moment, right in their moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would just venture.

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<v Speaker 1>That the term magical mystery tour has in an now

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<v Speaker 1>entered the language.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I noticed that with the popularity of the Beatles,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of our phrases.

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<v Speaker 2>Have crept into language.

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<v Speaker 3>Journalists will quote, well, it's been a long and mining

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<v Speaker 3>road to get here, and they're just throwing it in

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<v Speaker 3>because it works.

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<v Speaker 2>As a phrase.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet there's that little allusion to the Beatles song.

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<v Speaker 1>In this way, the Beatles were much more than a

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<v Speaker 1>band of four performers. They both derived from and were

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<v Speaker 1>leaders of an entire cultural shift turning away from the

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<v Speaker 1>known rules and customs of the past toward a mysterious,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially magical future. This spirit was accessible to anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>dared to sort of speak, get on the bus, that

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<v Speaker 1>do is knee.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a generational movement, no doubt about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we were very aware of that. It was a great

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<v Speaker 3>thing to see that this whole thing was happening, which

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<v Speaker 3>was a break from our parents and parents generally, because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the normal thing would be that people would

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<v Speaker 3>just expect you to go to school, go to college,

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<v Speaker 3>get a job, and get married, and that was sort

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that was like the expectation for most.

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<v Speaker 1>People and work for the rest of your life, in

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<v Speaker 1>that particular in one's job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>The artistic thing that we were part of was suggesting

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<v Speaker 3>that you didn't have to do that, that there were options,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was exciting to look at those options. I think, oh, wow, well, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have to eat meat and too veg We

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<v Speaker 3>could be vegetarian. Wow, that's crazy thought.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we can write songs about drugs. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>There's another crazy thought, you know, was the opportunities expanded

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<v Speaker 3>and for us and for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>For Paul McCartney, songwriting itself is an excuse to venture

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<v Speaker 1>into the unknown, a magical mystery tour.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Once I'm writing a song, I'm off on a trail and.

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<v Speaker 7>I really don't know what the goal is or or

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<v Speaker 7>even where I'm heading, but I do like to go

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<v Speaker 7>there and find out things on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>M Magical Mystery Tour the title song from the Beatles

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven album in the next episode. Paul McCartney

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<v Speaker 1>has been a nature lover and birdwatcher since childhood, his

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<v Speaker 1>song catalog teeming with feathered friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Like so many girls, Jenny Wren could sing Birken Took Away.

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<v Speaker 1>McCartney. A Life in Lyrics is a co production between iHeartMedia,

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<v Speaker 1>NPL and Pushkin Industries.