1 00:00:14,824 --> 00:00:15,264 Speaker 1: Pushkin. 2 00:00:22,824 --> 00:00:25,944 Speaker 2: Mystery tours was just sort of the quick hit. 3 00:00:29,544 --> 00:00:31,344 Speaker 1: You get on the bus somewhere in Liverpool. 4 00:00:31,504 --> 00:00:34,624 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you weren't supposed to know where you were going. 5 00:00:36,584 --> 00:00:39,104 Speaker 3: You get on the bus and you'd trust the operators 6 00:00:39,384 --> 00:00:40,304 Speaker 3: to take you somewhere. 7 00:00:40,384 --> 00:00:41,104 Speaker 2: Nice. 8 00:00:41,704 --> 00:00:45,344 Speaker 3: No, it was nice to get away and you couldn't 9 00:00:45,384 --> 00:00:46,744 Speaker 3: really afford much more. 10 00:00:46,984 --> 00:00:49,704 Speaker 4: Playground spectacular, playground, extraordinary. 11 00:00:50,024 --> 00:00:54,224 Speaker 3: There were advertisers a mystery tour, but often wasn't so 12 00:00:54,344 --> 00:00:55,064 Speaker 3: much a mystery. 13 00:00:55,184 --> 00:00:58,664 Speaker 4: You were going to Blackpool, Blackpool and millions of Britons 14 00:00:58,664 --> 00:01:00,224 Speaker 4: and millions from overseas. 15 00:01:00,544 --> 00:01:03,664 Speaker 3: So I just liked the idea that you didn't know 16 00:01:03,664 --> 00:01:06,544 Speaker 3: where you were going, and it's like, come with me, 17 00:01:07,544 --> 00:01:08,624 Speaker 3: we'll go somewhere. 18 00:01:09,264 --> 00:01:11,624 Speaker 2: Where are we going? It's a mystery? 19 00:01:12,304 --> 00:01:17,704 Speaker 3: Okay, great, let go. 20 00:01:18,984 --> 00:01:21,904 Speaker 1: When a man buys a ticket for a magical mystery theater, 21 00:01:22,504 --> 00:01:24,304 Speaker 1: he knows what to expect. 22 00:01:24,784 --> 00:01:28,624 Speaker 3: We guarantee him the drip of a lifetime, and that's 23 00:01:28,784 --> 00:01:33,744 Speaker 3: just what he gets, the incredible or magically mister tool. 24 00:01:34,264 --> 00:01:35,424 Speaker 2: Woll up, woll up. 25 00:01:42,704 --> 00:01:46,784 Speaker 1: I'm Paul will do And I've been fortunate to spend 26 00:01:46,824 --> 00:01:50,904 Speaker 1: time with one of the greatest songwriters of our era, And. 27 00:01:50,864 --> 00:01:53,784 Speaker 2: Will you look at me, I'm going up to I'm 28 00:01:53,824 --> 00:01:55,544 Speaker 2: actually a performer. 29 00:01:55,424 --> 00:01:58,864 Speaker 1: That is, Sir Paul McCartney. We worked together on a 30 00:01:58,864 --> 00:02:01,384 Speaker 1: book looking at the lyrics of more than one hundred 31 00:02:01,384 --> 00:02:05,704 Speaker 1: and fifty of the songs, and we recorded many hours 32 00:02:06,104 --> 00:02:07,344 Speaker 1: of our conversations. 33 00:02:07,904 --> 00:02:12,344 Speaker 2: Well actually a song, my god, Well that crypta hoy. 34 00:02:12,824 --> 00:02:18,784 Speaker 1: This is McCartney, A life in lyrics, a masterclass, a memoir, 35 00:02:19,344 --> 00:02:23,184 Speaker 1: and an improvised journey with one of the most iconic 36 00:02:23,264 --> 00:02:29,184 Speaker 1: figures in popular music in this episode magical Mystery Tour. 37 00:02:33,744 --> 00:02:41,384 Speaker 1: When McCartney was growing up, the notion of a mystery 38 00:02:41,464 --> 00:02:45,264 Speaker 1: tour involved paying to get on a bus and be 39 00:02:45,544 --> 00:02:53,224 Speaker 1: transported to an unknown location for the day. The fact 40 00:02:53,344 --> 00:02:55,584 Speaker 1: is there was very little mystery about it at all. 41 00:02:56,264 --> 00:03:00,904 Speaker 1: The destination was usually Blackpool, a resort on the northwest 42 00:03:01,024 --> 00:03:01,864 Speaker 1: English coast. 43 00:03:02,424 --> 00:03:05,784 Speaker 4: Coaches carry three million passengers each year, and each season 44 00:03:06,024 --> 00:03:08,384 Speaker 4: eight million arrived to experience the delights of. 45 00:03:08,344 --> 00:03:09,504 Speaker 5: This the lamp. 46 00:03:11,824 --> 00:03:15,184 Speaker 1: There, you'd be able to sit by the ocean, ride 47 00:03:15,424 --> 00:03:20,784 Speaker 1: roller coasters and see the impressive festival of lights before 48 00:03:20,824 --> 00:03:21,384 Speaker 1: heading home. 49 00:03:27,104 --> 00:03:30,344 Speaker 3: I think it's a cheap holiday, you know, if you 50 00:03:30,344 --> 00:03:33,544 Speaker 3: don't have any time or money, you just run out 51 00:03:33,544 --> 00:03:37,064 Speaker 3: for the day and it often involved a sharra bank 52 00:03:37,664 --> 00:03:40,784 Speaker 3: a coach and you'd all just get on that. 53 00:03:40,744 --> 00:03:42,024 Speaker 2: And you go for a day trip. 54 00:03:42,984 --> 00:03:49,304 Speaker 3: Blackpool would be the sort of star day trip and 55 00:03:49,904 --> 00:03:51,424 Speaker 3: sometimes to see the lights. 56 00:03:52,584 --> 00:03:55,424 Speaker 2: It was just sort of the quick hit take the 57 00:03:55,504 --> 00:03:56,024 Speaker 2: kids out. 58 00:03:56,864 --> 00:03:59,424 Speaker 3: Normally it's like a seaside place where you would get 59 00:03:59,424 --> 00:04:30,424 Speaker 3: some o'zo down the kid's throats. 60 00:04:17,984 --> 00:04:21,824 Speaker 1: In addition to a little fresh air. A Blackpool day 61 00:04:21,904 --> 00:04:26,064 Speaker 1: trip provided a great deal of entertainment by way of 62 00:04:26,104 --> 00:04:28,384 Speaker 1: its fair ground attractions. 63 00:04:28,984 --> 00:04:29,784 Speaker 2: That was great. 64 00:04:29,904 --> 00:04:33,344 Speaker 3: Blackpool was really pretty cool because they had a fun 65 00:04:33,424 --> 00:04:40,224 Speaker 3: for and the famous thing there was the the laughing 66 00:04:41,064 --> 00:04:44,264 Speaker 3: It was a guy in a little sort of a 67 00:04:44,344 --> 00:04:46,264 Speaker 3: model that just laughed. 68 00:04:50,464 --> 00:04:55,144 Speaker 2: You'd stand in front of it and you couldn't resist laughing. 69 00:05:00,864 --> 00:05:02,144 Speaker 2: That wasn't a real person. 70 00:05:02,304 --> 00:05:04,544 Speaker 1: No, no, it's a recording, I see. 71 00:05:04,984 --> 00:05:07,544 Speaker 2: But it was a little model and they kind of moved. 72 00:05:08,184 --> 00:05:09,984 Speaker 2: It was jolly bild. 73 00:05:10,064 --> 00:05:16,784 Speaker 1: Guy McCartney's childhood enthusiasm for the Carnivalesque sets the tone 74 00:05:16,944 --> 00:05:21,304 Speaker 1: for Magical Mystery Tour, a song written as an opener 75 00:05:21,544 --> 00:05:38,624 Speaker 1: for the w P of the same name. The Blackpool 76 00:05:38,744 --> 00:05:44,264 Speaker 1: Laughing Man wasn't the only carnivalesque laughter on McCartney's mind 77 00:05:44,464 --> 00:05:49,784 Speaker 1: while writing Magical Mystery Tour. Shortly before he wrote those lyrics, 78 00:05:50,104 --> 00:05:56,984 Speaker 1: Jerry Samuels, billed as Napoleon the Fourteenth, released a hit novelty. 79 00:05:56,624 --> 00:06:04,744 Speaker 6: Song, Remember when you ran away and I got on 80 00:06:04,824 --> 00:06:07,704 Speaker 6: my knees and begged you not to leave, because I 81 00:06:07,824 --> 00:06:12,504 Speaker 6: go ber sir, well you left me anyhow, and then 82 00:06:12,664 --> 00:06:15,304 Speaker 6: the days got worse and worse, and now you see 83 00:06:15,344 --> 00:06:17,664 Speaker 6: I've gone completely out of my mind. 84 00:06:18,064 --> 00:06:21,384 Speaker 1: First of all, let's talk about this phrase that coming 85 00:06:21,424 --> 00:06:23,824 Speaker 1: to take you, to take you away? Right? 86 00:06:24,544 --> 00:06:24,584 Speaker 5: No? 87 00:06:24,744 --> 00:06:27,264 Speaker 1: Yes, So it was a song and it came to 88 00:06:27,304 --> 00:06:30,184 Speaker 1: me this morning as I was thinking of this. You know, 89 00:06:30,304 --> 00:06:32,744 Speaker 1: one of those songs that one should probably have forgotten 90 00:06:32,784 --> 00:06:35,144 Speaker 1: about completely, the novelty song. 91 00:06:35,344 --> 00:06:38,864 Speaker 6: Yes They're coming to take me away, haha, They're coming 92 00:06:38,944 --> 00:06:40,184 Speaker 6: to take me away. 93 00:06:39,984 --> 00:06:43,264 Speaker 3: Hoe to the funny farm where. 94 00:06:43,064 --> 00:06:46,224 Speaker 6: Life is beautiful all the time, and be happy to. 95 00:06:46,184 --> 00:06:48,984 Speaker 3: See they're going to take you away. Hah, They're coming 96 00:06:49,024 --> 00:06:53,664 Speaker 3: to take you away, Which was quite an amazing song 97 00:06:53,784 --> 00:06:56,344 Speaker 3: because it was wor was it about mental health? 98 00:06:56,464 --> 00:06:56,864 Speaker 2: It was? 99 00:06:57,344 --> 00:06:59,864 Speaker 3: It certainly sounded like and we were laughing at it, 100 00:07:01,144 --> 00:07:07,704 Speaker 3: which you know, I think those post war time years, 101 00:07:09,704 --> 00:07:14,624 Speaker 3: people laughed at stuff, even dark stuff. In fact, there 102 00:07:14,784 --> 00:07:18,384 Speaker 3: was dark humor, quite a lot of sick jokes that 103 00:07:18,584 --> 00:07:23,304 Speaker 3: were called, and you were encouraged to laugh at it 104 00:07:23,424 --> 00:07:27,384 Speaker 3: as a way of defeating it, sure, as a way 105 00:07:27,424 --> 00:07:30,664 Speaker 3: of not letting it get you down, so you know, 106 00:07:30,704 --> 00:07:35,944 Speaker 3: we're coming to take you away. And it was I'm 107 00:07:35,944 --> 00:07:42,184 Speaker 3: sure that was an echo of that. 108 00:07:44,624 --> 00:07:48,464 Speaker 1: As fair Ground Barkers and Mystery to her guides. The 109 00:07:48,504 --> 00:07:53,384 Speaker 1: Beatles repeat this nod to Napoleon the Fourteenth Song, their 110 00:07:53,384 --> 00:07:56,864 Speaker 1: appeals to the listener escalating with each verse. 111 00:08:09,904 --> 00:08:12,704 Speaker 3: And the other thing about this is it's waiting to 112 00:08:12,744 --> 00:08:15,824 Speaker 3: take you away the first time, and the next time 113 00:08:15,864 --> 00:08:19,264 Speaker 3: it's hoping to take you away, and the last time 114 00:08:20,264 --> 00:08:22,744 Speaker 3: next to the last time is it's coming to take 115 00:08:22,784 --> 00:08:40,624 Speaker 3: you away, and then it's dying to take you away. 116 00:08:41,744 --> 00:08:46,064 Speaker 1: In Magical Mystery Tour, the idea of being taken away 117 00:08:46,664 --> 00:08:51,384 Speaker 1: is more whimsical, But in Napoleon the Fourteenth Song, it's 118 00:08:51,384 --> 00:08:55,944 Speaker 1: clear that the maniacal speaker would be taken away to 119 00:08:56,264 --> 00:09:00,344 Speaker 1: a mental institution. Billing for Christ's sakes, you must be 120 00:09:00,424 --> 00:09:05,344 Speaker 1: committed right. This setting loomed large in the public imagination 121 00:09:06,104 --> 00:09:09,984 Speaker 1: after the release of ken Casey's nineteen sixty two novel 122 00:09:10,384 --> 00:09:14,304 Speaker 1: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, later adapted into a 123 00:09:14,384 --> 00:09:16,424 Speaker 1: film starring Jack Nicholson. 124 00:09:16,904 --> 00:09:19,704 Speaker 6: Jesus, I mean, you guys do nothing but complain about 125 00:09:19,704 --> 00:09:21,544 Speaker 6: how you can't stand it in this place here, and 126 00:09:21,544 --> 00:09:23,744 Speaker 6: then you haven't got the guts just to walk out. 127 00:09:24,264 --> 00:09:26,944 Speaker 2: What do you think you are? For Christie crazy or something? 128 00:09:29,504 --> 00:09:31,424 Speaker 5: Well, you're not, You're not. 129 00:09:32,024 --> 00:09:34,944 Speaker 1: Ken Casey would embark on his own version of a 130 00:09:34,984 --> 00:09:38,944 Speaker 1: magical mystery tour in nineteen sixty four. He and his 131 00:09:39,064 --> 00:09:43,304 Speaker 1: comrades drove across the United States in a school bus 132 00:09:43,544 --> 00:09:49,464 Speaker 1: covered with psychedelic designs. This group called themselves the Merry Pranksters, 133 00:09:49,944 --> 00:09:55,664 Speaker 1: and they firmly embraced a countercultural mindset. Here's Casey giving 134 00:09:55,744 --> 00:09:59,584 Speaker 1: voice to that mindset outside of San Francisco Courthouse in 135 00:09:59,624 --> 00:10:02,984 Speaker 1: the mid nineteen sixties. Casey, do you feel that you 136 00:10:03,104 --> 00:10:05,584 Speaker 1: have the right to do what you want, whatever you want, 137 00:10:05,864 --> 00:10:07,304 Speaker 1: and still live in this world? 138 00:10:09,424 --> 00:10:11,384 Speaker 6: I feel a man has the right to be as 139 00:10:11,384 --> 00:10:12,944 Speaker 6: big as he feels it in him to be. 140 00:10:14,904 --> 00:10:20,824 Speaker 1: While McCartney wasn't physically on ken Casey's hallucinogenic buss, it 141 00:10:20,904 --> 00:10:25,984 Speaker 1: may have been this quintessential nineteen sixties image which prompted 142 00:10:26,184 --> 00:10:39,024 Speaker 1: Magical Mystery to her. The Psychedelic Bus is particularly recognizable 143 00:10:39,104 --> 00:10:43,744 Speaker 1: in the Beatles Surreal made for TV movie that accompanied 144 00:10:43,744 --> 00:10:47,384 Speaker 1: the album, in which the band and an eccentric group 145 00:10:47,424 --> 00:10:53,784 Speaker 1: of tourists pile into a coach and encounter various magical incidents. 146 00:10:54,424 --> 00:10:57,344 Speaker 5: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls, welcome to 147 00:10:58,624 --> 00:11:05,024 Speaker 5: magical Mystery. To all, I am your career, Jolly Jimmy Duncan, 148 00:11:07,144 --> 00:11:08,864 Speaker 5: and you are all my friends. 149 00:11:08,944 --> 00:11:14,024 Speaker 1: The film was largely improvised. Ringo Starr once recalled that 150 00:11:14,104 --> 00:11:17,064 Speaker 1: the closest they got to a script was a circle 151 00:11:17,224 --> 00:11:20,144 Speaker 1: that Paul McCartney drew on a blank piece of paper, 152 00:11:20,664 --> 00:11:23,464 Speaker 1: with the idea that they would start with the bus 153 00:11:23,864 --> 00:11:26,344 Speaker 1: and fill in the plot as they went along. 154 00:11:26,704 --> 00:11:27,904 Speaker 3: Anyway, I'll tell you something. 155 00:11:27,984 --> 00:11:29,544 Speaker 7: You ain't coming away with me anymore? 156 00:11:30,144 --> 00:11:31,544 Speaker 3: Who bought the tickets to the trip? 157 00:11:31,904 --> 00:11:32,304 Speaker 2: I did? 158 00:11:32,464 --> 00:11:35,624 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. I'm taking you. 159 00:11:35,624 --> 00:11:39,664 Speaker 7: You're not taking me anyway the film. 160 00:11:39,864 --> 00:11:42,064 Speaker 1: The idea of the film thought had been inspired by 161 00:11:42,144 --> 00:11:46,624 Speaker 1: Ken Casey's Mary Pranksters, whom you came across when accompanying 162 00:11:46,704 --> 00:11:50,104 Speaker 1: Jane Asher on a West Coast Theater tour in April 163 00:11:50,224 --> 00:11:54,904 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven. That's that's what I'm that's what we're hearing. 164 00:11:55,384 --> 00:11:59,544 Speaker 3: Yeah, well I don't know about these things, right, Yeah, 165 00:11:59,624 --> 00:12:01,264 Speaker 3: you know some of these things. I'd say, well, I'm 166 00:12:01,304 --> 00:12:03,904 Speaker 3: not even sure I met Ken Casey, but then someone 167 00:12:04,024 --> 00:12:09,304 Speaker 3: shows me a photograph as you with him. Okay, so 168 00:12:09,504 --> 00:12:14,224 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that connection. But it was connected inasmuch 169 00:12:14,304 --> 00:12:20,744 Speaker 3: as we were all connected in this generation, this crowd 170 00:12:20,864 --> 00:12:28,544 Speaker 3: of us, who'd you know, who liked the same kind 171 00:12:28,584 --> 00:12:33,024 Speaker 3: of things, And you know, it was getting around. 172 00:12:33,304 --> 00:12:37,384 Speaker 1: Throughout my conversations with Paul McCartney, it became clear to 173 00:12:37,424 --> 00:12:42,104 Speaker 1: me that what he himself remembers is in many ways 174 00:12:42,464 --> 00:12:47,184 Speaker 1: bond to the story that a generation told about itself. 175 00:12:47,264 --> 00:12:49,264 Speaker 3: We always used to say, people say, oh, you were 176 00:12:49,304 --> 00:12:52,464 Speaker 3: the absolute leaders of the generation, and we said. 177 00:12:52,304 --> 00:12:52,984 Speaker 2: Well, not really. 178 00:12:53,584 --> 00:12:56,464 Speaker 3: I mean, there were plenty of other people who we 179 00:12:56,464 --> 00:13:01,224 Speaker 3: were influenced by. So you know, if you had Alan Ginsburg, 180 00:13:03,344 --> 00:13:07,424 Speaker 3: Alan would be thinking very similarly to this. 181 00:13:08,224 --> 00:13:10,384 Speaker 2: We had a lot in almost with people like that. 182 00:13:11,784 --> 00:13:13,504 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that I mean there is a 183 00:13:13,664 --> 00:13:16,504 Speaker 1: there's got to be a connection between the Beats and 184 00:13:16,544 --> 00:13:18,744 Speaker 1: the Beatles. 185 00:13:19,064 --> 00:13:22,624 Speaker 3: We were very aware of all of that and that 186 00:13:22,744 --> 00:13:28,904 Speaker 3: have preceded us, So we were really interested in that. 187 00:13:28,944 --> 00:13:31,024 Speaker 2: It was kind of quite a thrill, you know. 188 00:13:30,984 --> 00:13:34,064 Speaker 3: To know that there was this whole new thing breaking 189 00:13:34,104 --> 00:13:36,344 Speaker 3: out across the world. 190 00:13:37,624 --> 00:13:42,424 Speaker 1: The Beats weren't the only literary tradition. The Beatles were 191 00:13:42,464 --> 00:13:46,224 Speaker 1: plugging into it. Before the Beats, there had been the 192 00:13:46,344 --> 00:13:53,304 Speaker 1: Romantic poets like Samuel Taylor Coleridge, who embraced personal liberty, whimsy, 193 00:13:53,624 --> 00:14:00,544 Speaker 1: and even drug inspired visions. Coleridge's poem Kubla Khan, read 194 00:14:00,624 --> 00:14:04,624 Speaker 1: here by Sir John Neville, was almost certainly written under 195 00:14:04,624 --> 00:14:05,984 Speaker 1: the influence of opium. 196 00:14:06,824 --> 00:14:11,664 Speaker 8: In Xanadu did Kubla can a stately pleasured ome decree 197 00:14:12,064 --> 00:14:16,824 Speaker 8: where Alph the sacred river ran through caverns measureless to man, 198 00:14:17,344 --> 00:14:22,584 Speaker 8: down to a sunless sea. So twice five miles of 199 00:14:22,664 --> 00:14:27,064 Speaker 8: fertile ground with walls and towers were girdled round. There 200 00:14:27,064 --> 00:14:31,104 Speaker 8: were gardens bright with sinuous rills, where blossomed many an 201 00:14:31,104 --> 00:14:36,304 Speaker 8: incense bearing tree. And here were forests ancient as the hills, 202 00:14:36,824 --> 00:14:39,344 Speaker 8: enfolding sunny spots of greenery. 203 00:14:41,184 --> 00:14:45,824 Speaker 3: In school, as I took those kind of classes, I'd 204 00:14:45,864 --> 00:14:48,584 Speaker 3: been told, you know that he was a bit of 205 00:14:48,624 --> 00:14:51,704 Speaker 3: a drug addict, so you knew there was a history 206 00:14:52,464 --> 00:14:57,144 Speaker 3: of people writing about that and weirdness and exotic stuff 207 00:14:57,144 --> 00:15:08,464 Speaker 3: and this and that. Again, roll up is another illusion 208 00:15:08,584 --> 00:15:12,704 Speaker 3: round because we were rolling up cigarettes. 209 00:15:12,264 --> 00:15:14,344 Speaker 1: Right, That had not occurred to me, of course, you. 210 00:15:14,384 --> 00:15:17,464 Speaker 3: Know that's what it is, roll up, and so you know, 211 00:15:17,504 --> 00:15:21,664 Speaker 3: all our friends and oxy temporaries would spot that, Hey, 212 00:15:21,784 --> 00:15:26,424 Speaker 3: that's great, let's roll up a joint. So we could 213 00:15:26,464 --> 00:15:28,584 Speaker 3: have carried on with that with that, but then we 214 00:15:28,704 --> 00:15:31,504 Speaker 3: start to try and get it into a little bit of. 215 00:15:33,224 --> 00:15:35,904 Speaker 2: You know, the magical mystery tour. 216 00:15:37,264 --> 00:15:41,224 Speaker 3: Rather than just an ordinary It could have been the 217 00:15:42,024 --> 00:15:45,704 Speaker 3: weekend Mystery Tour, but you know, because it was magical, 218 00:15:45,784 --> 00:15:48,384 Speaker 3: so we were we're putting trying to put this this 219 00:15:48,584 --> 00:15:49,944 Speaker 3: song into that. 220 00:15:51,424 --> 00:15:52,744 Speaker 2: Sort of hazy world. 221 00:16:23,024 --> 00:16:26,984 Speaker 1: In their desire to break from tradition, these poets, artists 222 00:16:27,024 --> 00:16:31,624 Speaker 1: and musicians established a new tradition of their own. He 223 00:16:31,744 --> 00:16:36,864 Speaker 1: also find inspiration in unusual phrases which could be given 224 00:16:37,224 --> 00:16:37,944 Speaker 1: new context. 225 00:16:51,544 --> 00:16:56,424 Speaker 3: So something like Satisfaction Guaranteed is like roll up. There 226 00:16:56,424 --> 00:17:00,744 Speaker 3: are phrases that you'd heard a million times, but now 227 00:17:00,784 --> 00:17:04,864 Speaker 3: we were putting a spin on them. Instead of coming 228 00:17:04,904 --> 00:17:09,504 Speaker 3: to my fir ground. We're saying more than that now 229 00:17:10,024 --> 00:17:13,584 Speaker 3: to the ego listener satisfaction guarantee. That's the kind of 230 00:17:13,584 --> 00:17:17,744 Speaker 3: thing you'd see on an advert for vacuum cleaner. 231 00:17:18,504 --> 00:17:22,504 Speaker 1: So you know, you're drawing on these phrases that have 232 00:17:22,664 --> 00:17:26,344 Speaker 1: currency at the moment, right in their moment. 233 00:17:27,304 --> 00:17:31,784 Speaker 2: I mean, I would just venture. 234 00:17:31,544 --> 00:17:37,824 Speaker 1: That the term magical mystery tour has in an now 235 00:17:38,264 --> 00:17:40,104 Speaker 1: entered the language. 236 00:17:40,224 --> 00:17:44,544 Speaker 3: Yeah, I noticed that with the popularity of the Beatles, 237 00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:47,224 Speaker 3: a lot of our phrases. 238 00:17:48,704 --> 00:17:50,384 Speaker 2: Have crept into language. 239 00:17:51,184 --> 00:17:54,864 Speaker 3: Journalists will quote, well, it's been a long and mining 240 00:17:54,944 --> 00:17:58,824 Speaker 3: road to get here, and they're just throwing it in 241 00:17:58,864 --> 00:18:00,264 Speaker 3: because it works. 242 00:17:59,944 --> 00:18:00,624 Speaker 2: As a phrase. 243 00:18:02,504 --> 00:18:05,704 Speaker 3: And yet there's that little allusion to the Beatles song. 244 00:18:14,424 --> 00:18:16,904 Speaker 1: In this way, the Beatles were much more than a 245 00:18:16,944 --> 00:18:22,544 Speaker 1: band of four performers. They both derived from and were 246 00:18:22,664 --> 00:18:27,904 Speaker 1: leaders of an entire cultural shift turning away from the 247 00:18:28,024 --> 00:18:32,384 Speaker 1: known rules and customs of the past toward a mysterious, 248 00:18:32,784 --> 00:18:41,984 Speaker 1: potentially magical future. This spirit was accessible to anyone who 249 00:18:42,144 --> 00:18:46,064 Speaker 1: dared to sort of speak, get on the bus, that 250 00:18:46,344 --> 00:18:47,424 Speaker 1: do is knee. 251 00:18:53,584 --> 00:18:58,704 Speaker 3: It was a generational movement, no doubt about it. Yeah, 252 00:18:58,744 --> 00:19:01,904 Speaker 3: we were very aware of that. It was a great 253 00:19:01,984 --> 00:19:08,704 Speaker 3: thing to see that this whole thing was happening, which 254 00:19:08,864 --> 00:19:15,344 Speaker 3: was a break from our parents and parents generally, because 255 00:19:15,944 --> 00:19:19,144 Speaker 3: you know, the normal thing would be that people would 256 00:19:19,144 --> 00:19:22,544 Speaker 3: just expect you to go to school, go to college, 257 00:19:23,024 --> 00:19:26,184 Speaker 3: get a job, and get married, and that was sort 258 00:19:26,184 --> 00:19:26,464 Speaker 3: of it. 259 00:19:26,544 --> 00:19:28,944 Speaker 2: You know, that was like the expectation for most. 260 00:19:28,704 --> 00:19:30,904 Speaker 1: People and work for the rest of your life, in 261 00:19:30,984 --> 00:19:32,504 Speaker 1: that particular in one's job. 262 00:19:32,864 --> 00:19:38,984 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 263 00:19:38,944 --> 00:19:43,424 Speaker 3: The artistic thing that we were part of was suggesting 264 00:19:43,504 --> 00:19:46,944 Speaker 3: that you didn't have to do that, that there were options, 265 00:19:48,184 --> 00:19:53,904 Speaker 3: and it was exciting to look at those options. I think, oh, wow, well, wow, 266 00:19:54,784 --> 00:19:58,904 Speaker 3: we don't have to eat meat and too veg We 267 00:19:59,024 --> 00:20:02,504 Speaker 3: could be vegetarian. Wow, that's crazy thought. 268 00:20:03,264 --> 00:20:08,744 Speaker 2: You know, we can write songs about drugs. Wow. 269 00:20:09,144 --> 00:20:18,304 Speaker 3: There's another crazy thought, you know, was the opportunities expanded 270 00:20:19,144 --> 00:20:21,424 Speaker 3: and for us and for everyone. 271 00:20:22,184 --> 00:20:26,224 Speaker 1: For Paul McCartney, songwriting itself is an excuse to venture 272 00:20:26,384 --> 00:20:29,904 Speaker 1: into the unknown, a magical mystery tour. 273 00:20:31,824 --> 00:20:31,984 Speaker 2: You know. 274 00:20:32,064 --> 00:20:38,144 Speaker 3: Once I'm writing a song, I'm off on a trail and. 275 00:20:39,744 --> 00:20:44,264 Speaker 7: I really don't know what the goal is or or 276 00:20:43,904 --> 00:20:50,344 Speaker 7: even where I'm heading, but I do like to go 277 00:20:50,384 --> 00:21:04,304 Speaker 7: there and find out things on the way. 278 00:20:58,144 --> 00:21:12,424 Speaker 1: M Magical Mystery Tour the title song from the Beatles 279 00:21:12,704 --> 00:22:25,624 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven album in the next episode. Paul McCartney 280 00:22:25,624 --> 00:22:29,544 Speaker 1: has been a nature lover and birdwatcher since childhood, his 281 00:22:29,744 --> 00:22:33,464 Speaker 1: song catalog teeming with feathered friends. 282 00:22:34,064 --> 00:22:48,344 Speaker 3: Like so many girls, Jenny Wren could sing Birken Took Away. 283 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:56,704 Speaker 1: McCartney. A Life in Lyrics is a co production between iHeartMedia, 284 00:22:57,224 --> 00:22:59,984 Speaker 1: NPL and Pushkin Industries.