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Speaker 1: Yamm dropping forty on twenty one shots last night, Like wow,

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Speaker 1: with even last night's stories or the day before stories.

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Speaker 1: The story is that, as you've heard all day long,

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Speaker 1: Chouncey Billups, Terry Rozier among like thirty people arrested by

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Speaker 1: the FBI. I don't do I think the headlines are interesting. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I actually think some of the details in some of

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Speaker 1: these stories are more interesting than like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what Chauncey Billups did. I know Chauncey. I played basketball

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Speaker 1: in my house. We've remained friendly, but we're not like boys.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I'm disineing myself. I'm just saying I

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Speaker 1: have no idea what he did. Terry Rozier obviously a

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Speaker 1: lot of that, but the details are really interesting. First,

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Speaker 1: we play a couple things for you. Here's Cash Bettel,

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Speaker 1: who's the FBI's director, at a press conference Ruler.

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Speaker 2: Today, individuals such as Chauncey Billups, Damon Jones, and Terry

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Speaker 2: Rozier were taken into custody today former current NBA players

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Speaker 2: and coaches. What you don't know is that this is

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Speaker 2: an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation that spanned

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Speaker 2: the course of years. The FBI led a coordinative takedown

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Speaker 2: across eleven states to arrest over thirty individuals today responsible

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Speaker 2: for this case, which is very much ongoing. Not only

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Speaker 2: did we crack into the fraud that these perpetrators committed

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Speaker 2: entered and executed a system of justice against La Casinosha

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Speaker 2: to include the Bonano, Gambino, Genevesi and Luchase crime family.

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Speaker 1: I do wish he went Italian pronunciation right, Like somewhere

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Speaker 1: back there there's going like, hey, it's a lutey, it's

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Speaker 1: a luciano. Good Like this deck can't pronounce nothing already,

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Speaker 1: I thought, buyer when I read this that Billips and

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Speaker 1: Damon Jones, they're accused of using their celebrity to lure

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Speaker 1: people into a playing game poker game that was rigged

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Speaker 1: by the mafia. The mafia allegedly, this is my favorite

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Speaker 1: part of the story. They use sophisticated cheating technologies. Now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you got Jason Stewart's attention, because

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Speaker 1: he's like, hey, this sounds like the Astros. I hate Springer,

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Speaker 1: mafia used extortion and violence to make sure they paid

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Speaker 1: their gambling debts. Noicella said. Investigators found the scheme involved

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Speaker 1: members of Yeah, the Banano, the Menano, the Cambino, the Chase,

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Speaker 3: So I think Roseyeer's part is separate from what Phillups is.

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Speaker 3: But the other thing in the article done by ESPN

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Speaker 3: story is in all the details. It's now how where

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Speaker 3: who we don't know if Lebron had any role in

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Speaker 3: all of this right now. He doesn't. But I was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Chase do what what what most intrigues you

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Speaker 4: Just the line that you had read about the extortion

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Speaker 4: of money. That's that's what Adam Silver should be most

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Speaker 4: concerned about. When people involved in his league that have

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Speaker 4: and these prop bets, when they get leveraged, when they

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Speaker 4: the problem is when these uh, when these types of

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Speaker 4: it on the podcast. And what strikes you most about

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Speaker 4: this sound isn't what Porter's saying as much as how

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Speaker 5: Think about it. You get mad at these dudes like

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Speaker 5: you could get all your homies rich by telling him, Yo,

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Speaker 5: ten thousand dollars I'm under you know this one game,

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Speaker 5: and they all get a little bad because you did

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Speaker 5: it one game like that is so not okay. But

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Speaker 5: some people probably think like that. They come from nothing

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Speaker 4: I just think Adam Silver should be like stunned by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Oh hey, wait what happened yesterday?

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Speaker 1: That's right, the NCAA approved the ability for coaches like

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Speaker 1: myself and for student athletes to gamble on professional sports.

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Speaker 1: What could possibly go wrong? What could possibly go wrong?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting the sports gambling aspect to it,

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Speaker 1: which is like we it's like we try and avoid

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Speaker 1: the human nature of it. Jason, you and I we've

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Speaker 1: all seen this coming. And and the gambling companies, by

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Speaker 1: the way, that even support the show in this network, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and lie to you

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Speaker 1: tell you that we're the only reason we still exist

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Speaker 1: is because of gambling, right, the reason the NFL is

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Speaker 1: so up here is because of gambling. But just like

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Speaker 1: anything it, it is a drug, okay, and people cannot

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Speaker 1: control it. Just like there's a percentage of people that

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Speaker 1: I'm not drinking for a month, Like I just don't

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Speaker 1: But many people wake up thinking when can I When

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Speaker 1: that's that gene or whatever, the disease of alcoholism. What's

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Speaker 1: you know, there's no life for it, there's no training

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Speaker 1: you losing the type money that you can say, hey,

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Speaker 1: it was entertaining, it was fun, and then I won

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But yeah, people will do evil things

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Speaker 1: losing massive sums of money. And once you once you

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Speaker 1: because you'll never be able to work in your sport again.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Dan, It's funny because and I'm even looking

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Speaker 3: Think how crappy is your investigation? Then now if you

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Speaker 3: found no wrongdoing, but now the FBI is like, uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: here was a time where thirty bets were placed on

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Speaker 3: Terry Rozier numbers, which is my point. I think when

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Speaker 3: gambling became illegal or became legal, we thought I thought,

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Speaker 3: I think other people think this way that it's all right,

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Speaker 3: you're picking the Knicks to beat the Calves, and if

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Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell throws away a basketball late, oh maybe that's

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Speaker 3: him fixing the game. But the fact that there are

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Speaker 3: lines on what Terry Rosier does is the problem because

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Speaker 3: I'll I had this conversation within the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 8: It's insanity, right, It's absolutely insane. It's insane to me

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Speaker 8: He's cheering for his other team, his teammates. I mean,

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Speaker 8: this dude is everything you can ask for. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 8: and by the way, he's just signed a five hundred

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Speaker 8: million dollar contract and he's the face of Canada and

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Speaker 8: baseball in Canada.

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Speaker 1: Rest versus rust, How do you think it's overrated?

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Speaker 8: This? I hate this talk. I hate this. You know why,

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Speaker 8: because in twenty five, twenty years ago, we had all

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Speaker 8: kinds of time off and you know what, we still

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Speaker 8: went out and kicked everyone left. So I'm so sick

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Speaker 8: of the russ. You know who complains about the rust

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Speaker 8: is a too much rest the team that loses. Yankees

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Speaker 8: and Dodgers both had time off. They were in the

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Speaker 8: World Series last year right now. The Dodgers had to

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Speaker 8: play a wild card game, wildcard round. And you can

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Speaker 8: argue that it was a scrimmage game because some people

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Speaker 8: say that because they played against the Reds. But the

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Speaker 8: Bluejays had time off and they went out whoop the Yankees, right,

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Speaker 8: So the Marriers had time off, they beat the They

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Speaker 8: beat the Tigers, who came in hot. So I just

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Speaker 8: don't get this argument. It's just because when you lose,

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Speaker 8: you have to find a reason. It just can't beat

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Speaker 8: that you just got beat. It's always something this started.

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Speaker 8: Excuse me. It started in two thousand and six, I

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Speaker 8: think when the Tigers lost to the Cardinals in that

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Speaker 8: World Series and they made a bunch of errors on

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Speaker 8: the mound and they didn't really hit, but they just

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Speaker 8: That was when the first tear I ever heard about. Oh,

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Speaker 8: we had too much rest, but we wanted rest in

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Speaker 8: the playoffs. Are you kidding me? Because you've got days

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Speaker 8: off your beat hired like I wanted, especially for my pitchers.

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Speaker 8: Like we can set a rotation, we can line up

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Speaker 8: our bullpen, our our hitters, get some days off, we

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Speaker 8: can take some you know, scrimmage game stuff like I

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Speaker 8: wanted the rest. So I just don't believe in that,

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Speaker 8: And it's one of my least favorite excuses in all sports.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. A. J.

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Speaker 1: Prazinski is our guest. Dodgers bullpen Game one. It was shaky,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact Snell was amazing. Uh, they survived it,

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Speaker 1: but they had such incredible starting pitching. So again, rest

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Speaker 1: is not an issue there. It's just a matter of

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Speaker 1: what do they do in seven, eight, and nine. It

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Speaker 1: looks like they know who they want in nine. But

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Speaker 1: you know, he couldn't close out Game one. He stopped

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Speaker 1: trying him back there. Who's been up and down? What's

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Speaker 1: your level of confidence in the Dodgers bullpen in the

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Speaker 1: biggest years.

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Speaker 9: In baseball, you don't need a lot if if your

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Speaker 9: starter to eight and nine like Snelling, Jungloto didn't one

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Speaker 9: to two and then glassdown did what seven?

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Speaker 8: And then show aged six and they had a lead.

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Speaker 8: I don't know that. Here's my confidence fector I'm popping

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Speaker 8: in Rokie. I'm confident in Vestia. After that, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Can try to do what he did last year? Will

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Speaker 8: Kershaw be a factor? Will and she and be a

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Speaker 8: factor bonded to be a factor. Who's it gonna be

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Speaker 8: that's gonna step up not named Roki and not named

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Speaker 8: Vestia and get big outs for him. But it's the

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Speaker 8: same for the Blue Jays. For me, you have to

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Speaker 8: have Hoppin, you have to have some other people. But

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Speaker 8: can the lefties get out the lefties of the Dodgers,

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Speaker 8: meaning show a Freddie and Max Muncy and they can

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Speaker 8: they use their lefties properly to get those guys out?

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Speaker 8: I don't know, But for me, the biggest those are

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Speaker 8: the two biggest question marks in this series is can

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Speaker 8: can't which bullpen handles better? And can the Blue Jays

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Speaker 8: starting pitchers match the Dodger starting pitchers? As far as

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Speaker 8: zeros An innings and give their bullpen a chance and

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Speaker 8: give their kidders a chance to finally break through.

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. What's it

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Speaker 1: like to catch the World Series game? To win a

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Speaker 1: World seraion you or catching? What? What's that like?

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Speaker 8: It's the greatest feeling you can ever have as a player,

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Speaker 8: because team wise, not individual wise, things happen, but team

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Speaker 8: wise it's more important because everybody remembers, Like, I wasn't

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Speaker 8: a guy that said any kind of you know, all

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Speaker 8: time records for home runs or hits or any of

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Speaker 8: that stuff, but everybody remembers the first question you get.

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Speaker 8: Nobody nobody ever asked you, Hey, how many hits did

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Speaker 8: you have? I mean they do, but the first question

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Speaker 8: you get is do you have a ring? And so

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Speaker 8: when you get that ring, it's the ultimate like that's

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Speaker 8: you to everybody, Like, Yeah, I got my ring. You

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Speaker 8: know you can never take it away from me, no

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Speaker 8: matter how much you want to say this or that

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Speaker 8: about me. I always have this ring and it's in

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Speaker 8: my back pocket and I can always pull it out

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Speaker 8: as a trump card for anything you want, any other

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Speaker 8: thing you want to lay at me. So it's the

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Speaker 8: greatest feeling. And when that final outs happened, I just

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Speaker 8: remember we were up three oh, and we're winning and

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Speaker 8: we get to the ninth inning and I'm just in

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Speaker 8: the back of my mind, I'm just like, this is

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Speaker 8: really going to happen. I'm really gonna win the World

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Speaker 8: Series Chicago White Sox thirteen that hasn't won, a city

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Speaker 8: that hasn't won in eighty eight years, and the party's

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Speaker 8: going to be unbelievable. And as soon as that final

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Speaker 8: out made it is, you just think about everybody that

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Speaker 8: ever helped you along the way and just there's so

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Speaker 8: much emotion that has led out by everybody. That's why

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Speaker 8: the parties are so crazy. Yes you're happy, obviously, but

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Speaker 8: it's just such an outpouring of emotion because of all

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Speaker 8: the things and all the people and all the steps

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Speaker 8: you think about that you had to get there. It

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Speaker 8: just makes it all worth it.

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Speaker 1: AJ are the Best Man. A J PRESENTSKI World Series

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Speaker 1: Champion O five with those White Sox. Of course, you

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Speaker 1: can check out his podcast called Faull Territory. You see

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Speaker 1: him on Fox Sports. AJ thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk as the series rolls on.

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Speaker 8: Hi Jug who's going to be the coach at OSU.

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Speaker 1: At Oklahoma State? Yeah, I think either GJ. Kinney, who's

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Speaker 1: at Texas State who is a Tulsa quarterback, or Zach Robinson,

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Speaker 1: who was a quarterback there. His mom was a palm

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Speaker 1: there and he's the offensive coordina with the Falcons. Those

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Speaker 1: will be my two early leans.

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Speaker 8: I'm not telling me who's going to coach Florida, please,

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Speaker 8: And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's one of those. It's so weird.

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Speaker 1: They just haven't been able to figure out since Urban, right, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you do it there. I mean, I look. My

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Speaker 1: thing would be this when hiring college coaches. Again, this

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Speaker 1: is from experience now taking over a basketball program, you

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Speaker 1: gotta hire. I even think hiring Zach, and I love Zach.

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Speaker 1: He's a great dude. But if you hire him, you

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Speaker 1: got to have that plan in place now because when

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Speaker 1: the portal opens, it's kind of too late. Those guys

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Speaker 1: are already spoken for, and you gotta have a plan

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Speaker 1: in place for the portal because you can't just pick players.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have an identity of Hey, we're gonna play

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Speaker 1: this way and here's the guys who're gonna get So

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Speaker 1: if whoever you hire, they got to have their staff

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Speaker 1: kind of in place for these last three or so

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Speaker 1: weeks of the season so that they're up and running,

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Speaker 1: and then the second the portal hits, they've already have moment.

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Speaker 8: They're smart, Doug, is anyone I've told you a pretty

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Speaker 8: smart about this college stuff?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, except for I won four games last year, So

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Speaker 1: what the hell do I What the hell do I know?

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Speaker 1: Ay J, you're the best man. I appreciate you join us.

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Speaker 1: It is a difference, but it's the same thing though,

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing. Dan, Hey, speaking of portal, did

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Speaker 1: you hear this is Kelvin Sampson yesterday head coach of

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Speaker 1: Houston obviously lost the National Championship game. This is uh,

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Speaker 1: this is Kelvin Sampson talking about the transfer portal.

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Speaker 10: But at some point somebody's got to step up and

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Speaker 10: say this is wrong. It's not what we signed up for.

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Speaker 10: It's not what they signed up for. That's not fair

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Speaker 10: to them either. It's not fair of their parents. You know,

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Speaker 10: we're still at an educational institution, but there's nothing educational

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Speaker 10: about college basketball right now. It's all transactional. And then

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Speaker 10: we go put our head in the sand in that like,

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Speaker 10: well it'll change eventually. Think how many ads five years

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Speaker 10: ago said, ah, this will play out, This won't last.

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Speaker 10: Same guys are saying it today. This won't last. It's

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Speaker 10: gonna outlast all of us. That toothpaste is out of

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Speaker 10: the tube and you ain't put in the back ass

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Speaker 10: and a control it. But what can you control it?

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Speaker 10: You can control that transfer port and I'm adamant that

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Speaker 10: we are positively impact in lives. If we tell a

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Speaker 10: kid that he's has to set out for a year, transfer,

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Speaker 10: you get one transfer anywhere you want with no penalty,

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Speaker 10: transfer and go play right away. But you can't do

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Speaker 10: that every year.

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Speaker 1: Completely agree, Completely agree. You know, I don't even love

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Speaker 1: the play right away, but transfer and and after that

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Speaker 1: if you have to sit out, I guess you could

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Speaker 1: have him sit out right and you can't hold guy's hostage.

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Speaker 1: But the the the multiple transfers is what makes it

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Speaker 1: really really difficult. It does. I just don't know if

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Speaker 1: it'll hold up in court. Right That's like kind of

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Speaker 1: the big thing is you'd have to have. All of

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Speaker 1: these things have to be collectively bargained, and then you

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Speaker 1: have a contract. The contract has to have a non

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Speaker 1: compete clause, and there has to be a buyout of

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Speaker 1: those contracts. Most of the new contracts in college basketball

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Speaker 1: for freshmen high level freshmen are two year contracts because

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Speaker 1: the expectations are they don't play their first year and

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Speaker 1: people don't want to invest money in somebody the first

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Speaker 1: year and then lose them in the second year.

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Speaker 1: Uh so the big story of the day, this is

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Speaker 1: a gigantic story. Is this gambling probe and uh it's

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Speaker 1: got wire tapping, fraud, racketeering. Here, here's a question, just

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Speaker 1: a question to you guys. Do you guys know what

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Speaker 1: racketeering is? We use the racketeering term all the time.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what racketeering is? Chase doo? Are you

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Speaker 1: do you?

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Speaker 5: Are?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 1: Do you know racketeering? What it actually means?

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Speaker 4: It has something to do with money, an organized crime,

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Speaker 4: like trying to get money out of people somehow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's basically extortion. Right, extortion is another

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Speaker 1: year for racketeering. It's it's uh uh god, how to

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Speaker 1: how to describe it? Go ahead, Dan.

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Speaker 3: Fire, Yeah, No, I was just gonna say, why do

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Speaker 3: you do that to us? Like, why do you try

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Speaker 3: to Why don't you just tell us what racketeering is?

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Speaker 4: He did this?

641
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: We don't necessarily know, Like I thought, racketeering is rigging

642
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: a system. That's what I think of it as it's

643
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: a racket, right, That's where the term, ah it's a

644
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: racket comes from. But it's one of those words that

645
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: we all use or we all repeat, and I don't

646
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: think most of us know it. I'm gonna tell you

647
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: myself included right like racketeers. I'm looking this up in

648
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Wikipedia is a type of organized crime in which the

649
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: perpetrators set up a coercive, fraudulent, extortionary, and otherwise the illegal,

650
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: coordinated scheme or operation. So it's like, when you put

651
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: everything together, right, that's racketeering. That's a racket. That's when

652
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: the term rigged is. It's when it's all put together.

653
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: It's like, Dan, you and I were both aligned on

654
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: the part of this story which is the most interesting

655
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: is the line that I was reading where where you know,

656
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: they use these special card counters right where they could

657
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: mark cards, they had X ray poker tables. You're like what,

658
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: And then when they would when people would owe them money,

659
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: then they would you know, threaten violence if they didn't pay,

660
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: and they would extort them with illegal gambling. All of

661
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: that is racketeering. It's like when you put in every

662
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: one of those little factors thort a grand scheme, that's racketeering.

663
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: That's where the term it's a racket comes from. And

664
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: I'll bet there's a lot of people going like, hey,

665
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: I've used that term, it's a racket. I didn't know,

666
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: and I've used racketeering before and I didn't actually truly

667
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: knew what it meant. But that's what I was doing

668
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: when when we were talking with I was looking at

669
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: what racketeering is? What changes because of this? Dan Byer like,

670
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: what happens? What's the reaction to this story?

671
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a there's a lot and I'll

672
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: even Jason passed along something that Mike Florio had tweeted about,

673
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: which is what I said in our first hour. What

674
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: did he say that the the trimming down of prop

675
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: bets could end up happening from from sports books.

676
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said something like in the states that sports

677
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: gambling is legal, they will make prompt bets illegal.

678
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 8: Yeah.

679
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: I just I don't understand why there are why there

680
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: are lines on Terry Rosier stats.

681
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: It comes from fantasy football and fantasy and then became

682
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: fantasy basketball that people were basically betting on this forever

683
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, you know people want to bet

684
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: on it, let's let's bet on it. And yeah, it's

685
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: a complete and abject disaster. Who could have seen it coming. Everybody, everybody,

686
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: because so much of it's so controllable by the person.

687
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: And I think the assumption, and I think it's an

688
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: arrogant assumption that were like, these guys make too much

689
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: money to ever get involved in this stuff, right, that's

690
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: the that's the thought. But how much money you make

691
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: that it just increases the volume of what you're gonna

692
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: do to bet right, you're trying to you're trying to

693
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: unleash that dopamine, you know, this risky behavior, Jay Stu

694
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: Outside of the prop bets, does what else changes?

695
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 8: Does it?

696
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: Does this story change anything?

697
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 4: Probably not. I hope it would. I hope it would.

698
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 4: But uh, you mentioned what what's his name, Donaghue Donneghee's story. Yeah, yeah,

699
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: we all thought that was going to change the world,

700
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: and it didn't. I don't know, I don't know what

701
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: would like If you were to ask the average NBA fan,

702
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 4: or you're gonna stop watching the sport, or you're gonna

703
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: stop going to games, stop buying the March because of

704
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 4: something like this, I think ninety nine percent of people

705
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: would say no. That's the weird thing about this is

706
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 4: that the FBI is taking this very serious, and they're

707
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 4: gonna convict people that are guilty of crimes, federal crimes.

708
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 4: I just don't know if you're the consuming public is

709
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: going to change the way they consume the sport.

710
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: I do think that when we talk about the Tim

711
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: Donahue situation, we look at it like we do the

712
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: David Stern frozen envelope deal with Patrick Ewing, where we

713
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 3: think this stuff isn't on the up and up because

714
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: it quote benefits the NBA, right like this, this is

715
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: what the NBA wants. The NBA didn't want Sacramento in

716
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: the NBA Finals. They wanted the Lakers in the NBA finals.

717
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 3: So that's where I think that this is, well, maybe

718
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: all under the same umbrella, this is a different portion

719
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 3: of it because I don't know what the motivation is

720
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: to where you would keep Sacramento out of an NBA finals.

721
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: But if we're betting on Terry Rozier's stats, who is

722
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 3: that really benefiting? Like I always felt that the rig

723
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 3: notion of it was not that we looked at money

724
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: but just on team's success. Oh, it's better for the

725
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: NBA when the Lakers win NBA titles so they can

726
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 3: make more money. That's how I feel. Generally, we looked

727
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: at the NBA being fixed, not not in a way

728
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: that could screw us or screw other betters. So that's

729
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: what I think is is unique about this. I think

730
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: it's different. I just I don't know, to your guy's point,

731
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: what else can be done. I just don't think that

732
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: they're necessarily the same.

733
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: Does Chauncey Phillips regain his position as head coach of.

734
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: The not a chance?

735
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 8: Well?

736
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: Hold on, yeah, okay, I believe you, and I genuinely

737
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 1: agree with you, But let me pitch something to you here. Okay,

738
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: we're reading an indictment, an indictment, we're reading what they

739
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: have on him, and so what they're saying was he

740
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: was he got people to join this poker game, which

741
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: was a rigged poker game. He'd use his celebrity status, Hey,

742
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: you should play poker with my guys. They played this

743
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: rig poker game, and then they cut him in on

744
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: fifty grand from the poker game. That's how read to me?

745
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: Is that how read? You d Yeah?

746
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: And then he even took part in some of these games.

747
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, the question becomes did he can they prove

748
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: that he knew it was rigged or was this just

749
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: a like anything. He's mister big shot, He's Johncey Billups. Listen,

750
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is play in this poker game.

751
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you fifty grand. That's it. That's all

752
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: you gotta do. So that that's there becomes the plausible deniability.

753
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: Do I think they would arrest him without like a

754
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: text message that shows that he knew. I'm guessing they

755
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 1: probably have some evidence pointing to it. If they don't

756
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: have evidence that he knew, he will coach again in

757
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: the NBA. If they have evidence that he knew it

758
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: was a rigged game, he will never coach again in

759
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: the NBA.

760
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: Well, he also he also has been connected to There

761
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: was some information that he told somebody that the Blazers

762
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: were tanking and that they were not going to have

763
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: four players play in a game, and there was unusual

764
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: betting activity surrounding that. Yeah, yeah, I just I don't

765
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: think Johnson Billips is gonna have any friends, at least

766
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: the ones that, hey, I wouldn't be able to trust them.

767
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: It's amazing, amazing stuff. I mean, Terry Rogier will never

768
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: play sports together. He's that one's cooked. That one's pretty easy, right.

769
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: I can't see any world in which he plays in

770
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: an NBA game Big three. Maybe maybe he goes goes

771
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: Big three, right, but I don't see it otherwise. It's

772
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: crazy though that, like I almost feel bad for Adam

773
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: Silver because he's getting crushed today. Meanwhile, the product last

774
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: two nights has been great. Webin Yama had forty last

775
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: night on twenty one shots. Looked looked completely back, completely healthy,

776
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: and he looked like the guy that we were told

777
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: he could become. And no one is talking about it

778
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: once the story drop because the story way more salacious,

779
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: even though it doesn't. John Spill's team stinks. Terry Rozier

780
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: is not a particularly impactful player in the NBA, doesn't

781
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: actually have anything to do with anything that matters. But

782
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: it's the pr the public perception, and they are getting

783
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: just evistrated because of it.

784
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 4: I'll say I'll take it a step further. So we

785
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: work on the talk space here, right, national talk space.

786
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about your MBA podcast and whatnot, but

787
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: I would venture to say that, like after this first

788
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: week bump, we don't really talk MBA in great detail

789
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: unless there are major storylines you're right until after the

790
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, So we're spending this real estate where we

791
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: could be talking about, as you say, the positive on

792
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 4: this story.

793
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, as much as I would

794
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: like to talk about Victor webbin Yama, I wouldn't be

795
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: doing my job because that's not the big story of

796
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: the day. This will lead every newscast everywhere anywhere.

797
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 3: I honestly anything more people would want to hear about

798
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: this stuff than Victor webin Yama's night last night.

799
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, of course, if it bleeds, it leads.

800
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: We love that, we love this stuff. But again, I

801
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: actually feel I actually feel bad, like even the story

802
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: about another How about these college basketball coaches where they're

803
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: like Izzo yesterday with the impassioned thing about G League

804
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: players and be recruited, and Kelvin Sampson comes out, and

805
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: then there's another G League player and guess who's like

806
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: one of three schools for me? You guys think Kelvin Sampson.

807
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: Funny how that works, right, because all of us are

808
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: in the same boat where we're like, yeah, this these

809
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: the lack of rules is really crazy. We just try

810
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: and get god players. We don't like it, but we

811
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: also want to win, and this is the only way

812
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: to win. Even that story nothing, It's going to all

813
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: be about gambling. And Jason, you and I we've been

814
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: talking about this for years. They keep making gambling more

815
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: and more and more accessible to more and more people.

816
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: And I understand that the gambling industry is like, look

817
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: where a lot of these red flags come up because

818
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: we actually monitor all of these bets. And the more

819
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: you make it legal, the easier it is for us

820
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: to monitor because the illegal ones go away, they're the

821
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: non regulated ones. That's how you get the mafia involved.

822
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: This is this is how you get the mafi out

823
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: of it. But the more you open up access to it,

824
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: less people can control their gambling. It's so accessible, the

825
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: numbers they start small and then they build up. My

826
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: guess is there will be a lot more of these.

827
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: I actually think this has way less impact than people think,

828
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: even though we're gonna talk about it. Whatever. There's been

829
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: other gambling stories NFL players, and all they've done is

830
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: allow more access to NFL players to bet on other sports.

831
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: When those of us who've been alive long enough, like

832
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: all of these stories are the same. Guy starts out

833
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: betting a little bit here, betting a little bit there,

834
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: then works their way into debt. Then you get into

835
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: such a debt where somebody pops up and goes, hey,

836
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: you want to wipe off that debt? Yeah, I can't

837
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: really cover it. Okay, if you don't want to cover

838
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: and you can't pay the vague there is another way.

839
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 1: What's the other way?

840
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 4: Just this week, just this week there, you know the

841
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 4: bookie that made that made all the bets for Otani's interpreter,

842
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: he's been making the rounds and I I uh, I

843
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: definitely would say to listeners you should find that sound.

844
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 4: The bookie gives in great detail what was going on,

845
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 4: and and he says that, you know, people say that,

846
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: what's the big problem that Otani's interpreter was only gambling

847
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: on soccer, Like ninety five percent of his bets were

848
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: on soccer. And the bookie points out, like, that's just

849
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: the stupidest betting you're going to do is on soccer

850
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 4: because you lose on ties. But anyways, so the uh

851
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 4: but he's like, you don't you know, you don't see

852
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Speaker 4: the forest beyond the trees. It's not necessarily that Otani

853
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 4: can't affect soccer games. It's what happens when you get

854
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: in deep and then you have access to a star

855
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: player the next thing. People aren't really seeing what happens next.

856
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what happens next. And I think the more

857
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Speaker 1: we oh, we're gonna take down prop bets, like okay,

858
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Speaker 1: so that stops people from gambling on their sport when

859
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Speaker 1: they see the lines. That doesn't make any Yeah, but

860
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Speaker 1: the problem still exists. It doesn't change the nature of

861
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Speaker 1: human beings trying to bet and make money quickly and

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Speaker 1: then thinking they can cover it up.

863
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Speaker 3: You know what I love about this? Have you guys

864
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: seen the shots of Terry Roseier. It is, and I'm

865
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Speaker 3: using air quotes, ankle injury. So if a guy gets

866
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Speaker 3: hurt in the NBA, what do they do. They put

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Speaker 3: him at the end of the bench, maybe they take

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Speaker 3: him in the locker room, team doctors around them, whatever

869
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: the deal is. So Rosier goes out of this game,

870
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Speaker 3: not a team doctor in sight around him. In fact,

871
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 3: there are open chairs next to him on the bench.

872
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: He then is grabbing his ankle like adding to it. Again,

873
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Speaker 3: no team doctors around, And then there's another shot where

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Speaker 3: he has disappeared and gone into the locker room. But

875
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Speaker 3: if anybody gets hurt in an NBA game, players are

876
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Speaker 3: helping them. They're helping them walk off, team physician comes over,

877
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: somebody's looking at him, end of the bench, take him

878
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Speaker 3: in the locker room. None of that. It was all

879
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Speaker 3: a great acting job by Terry Rosier. And I'm saying

880
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: that facetiously.

881
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Speaker 4: It was.

882
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: It sticks out like a sore thumb if you are

883
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Speaker 3: looking for it. It was great. It's hilarious.

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Speaker 1: It's really really funny.

885
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: Also, did you hear New York NYPD commission Jessica Tish.

886
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: She stuck it to Terry Rosier ready for this one.

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Speaker 11: As the NBA season tips off. His career is already benched,

888
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 11: not for injury, but for.

889
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Speaker 4: Integrity, integrity.

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Speaker 3: They call this operation nothing but net and royal flush Ah.

891
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Speaker 1: Play that one again. That was so clever.

892
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 3: Stuck it to him.

893
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Speaker 11: As the NBA season tips off, His career is already benched,

894
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 11: not for injury, but for integrity.

895
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Speaker 8: M We got.

896
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Speaker 3: Him, took himself in.

897
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Speaker 1: Got you know, she went back and she she gave

898
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Speaker 1: the fist pump Obama fist pump. Huhh you you you.

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Speaker 3: Rogier had to be shocked when.

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Speaker 11: He heard that as the NBA season tips off, his

901
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Speaker 11: career is already benched, not for injury, but for integrity.