Speaker 1: Welcome to Special Teams, a production of my Heart Radio
Speaker 1: Greetings and Welcome inside the latest Special Teams with Jason
Speaker 1: Smith and Mike Harmon podcast. Every week we spotlight a memorable,
Speaker 1: if not relevant team from the world of sports and
Speaker 1: take a look at what made them so memorable that
Speaker 1: year in sports history. And today we take a look
Speaker 1: at the last time the Knicks were relevant when they
Speaker 1: made it all the way to the NBA Finals only
Speaker 1: to lose to the San Antonio Spurs in five games.
Speaker 1: But this was the last Knicks team to really break
Speaker 1: through and capture New York and capture the country with Hey,
Speaker 1: the Knicks NBA Royalty. They're pretty good and it was this.
Speaker 1: It was a season that surprised many people. There were
Speaker 1: many twists and turns, a big injury that Nicks had
Speaker 1: to overcome. But for all the talk of how the
Speaker 1: NBA needs teams like the Knicks and the Lakers to
Speaker 1: always be good, this is the last time you counted
Speaker 1: on the Knicks for being good. Every year since then
Speaker 1: has been well, maybe they'll be good until they out
Speaker 1: now it stunk, but this was the last time you
Speaker 1: could say, boy, the Knicks were mail carriers in the
Speaker 1: NBA a lot of wishing, running, hoping, and it really
Speaker 1: worked out for the NBA twice when Michael Jordan went away.
Speaker 1: The first time is when you got the against Houston
Speaker 1: and when Jordan was on his baseball sabbatical, and then
Speaker 1: now Jordan walks into the sunset at least for a moment,
Speaker 1: for the second time. And here you have the Knicks
Speaker 1: breakthrough and what was really a mutant season. It was
Speaker 1: some kind of year and no one saw this run
Speaker 1: coming for the New York Knicks. And this is because
Speaker 1: not because well the Knicks good, We're not sure. But
Speaker 1: remember this is the lockout year. So the NBA started late,
Speaker 1: and the Knicks were a team that, well, how good
Speaker 1: is anybody gonna be? We're gonna play about fifty games
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna see where we're at. And no
Speaker 1: one really knew how how faster team's gonna get out
Speaker 1: of the gate. Are they gonna decide, hey, we gotta
Speaker 1: be great right away? Are we going to still try
Speaker 1: to ease into the season and figure things out and
Speaker 1: figure out our rotation. No one really knew what to expect.
Speaker 1: And even though the Knicks wound up in the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: the journey they took to get there. They finished eighth
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. They barely made the playoffs. They
Speaker 1: played fifty games, and the Nicks go into this season
Speaker 1: and two trades were made that not just made them better,
Speaker 1: but really made them wave goodbye to the Knicks of
Speaker 1: the mid nineties, the Knicks teams that we're gonna beat
Speaker 1: Jordan's that were powered by Xavier McDaniel and Patrick Ewing
Speaker 1: and John Starks. They made two big trades. They traded
Speaker 1: away Charles Oakley in a deal Toronto for Marcus Canby,
Speaker 1: and they traded John Starks in a three player deal
Speaker 1: to Golden State for Latrelle spree Well and for spree Well,
Speaker 1: who was known as the guy that choked p J. Carloslo.
Speaker 1: This was the the anti climax. I would say, you
Speaker 1: had the climax to his career, which was really what
Speaker 1: went on with Golden State. But then people forget he
Speaker 1: led the Knicks to the NBA. No, it's a bonus
Speaker 1: scene at the end of a Marvel movie. That's okay,
Speaker 1: you think that's the Story's like, no, wait, there's one
Speaker 1: more thing and you're waiting, all right, is do we
Speaker 1: get a sequel out of this. Well, no you don't,
Speaker 1: but you had to him rise up one last time.
Speaker 1: This Knicks roster. Gonna read some of the players who
Speaker 1: were on this team, and and the big thing the
Speaker 1: Knicks had going for them is they were really, really deep.
Speaker 1: They had a lot of players who were good enough
Speaker 1: for average to above average players to play a lot
Speaker 1: of minutes. We talked about Marcus Canby coming over. Chris
Speaker 1: Child was a really good guard who played a lot
Speaker 1: of minutes. Then Patrick Ewing was still playing well. He
Speaker 1: was thirty three years old. Alan Houston was scoring twenty
Speaker 1: a game, even though he never lived up to the
Speaker 1: contract he got. Larry Johnson was enjoying his final swan
Speaker 1: song in the NBA. Kurt Thomas was a player who
Speaker 1: contributed a power forward. Charlie Ward, coming off of the
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy, you know, tried to make it an NBA
Speaker 1: career and wound up starting coming off the bench for
Speaker 1: the Knicks for a lot of years. You know, Herb Williams,
Speaker 1: David Wingate. The Knicks were pretty deep. They didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of players who were superstars, but this was
Speaker 1: a ross that was put together. Okay, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: eight nine deep and not lose a lot from our
Speaker 1: starting lineup to our bench well, and and that's sick
Speaker 1: because it wasn't packed with superstars at the top. He
Speaker 1: paid him like it. Certainly Alan Houston get paid like it.
Speaker 1: But man, you you're just you grimace as I say that,
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt and every everything it's inspiraled quickly.
Speaker 1: I had a friend who was a really big Allan
Speaker 1: Houston fan, and I remember the tortured look on her face.
Speaker 1: Did he give did you give him money? How about
Speaker 1: some of that cash you stole? I mean, god, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: he earned the right to have that guaranteed contract. You say,
Speaker 1: you're looking at so many guys that contributed twenty or
Speaker 1: more minutes. You're looking at going eight deep where you
Speaker 1: can go to your bench and work. And again, when
Speaker 1: you're talking, is you you use the term on their
Speaker 1: last runs? For all these guys, I mean you're talking
Speaker 1: about a team that is average age, pretty old. You
Speaker 1: mean you're looking at guys in their low thirties and
Speaker 1: then ewing sitting there and knowing his knees were gonna
Speaker 1: give any day now, I mean that was where you
Speaker 1: were at with this team for one shortened run, looking
Speaker 1: and making trades for spretty Well and can Be got
Speaker 1: him younger. I mean that was wow. Okay, but this
Speaker 1: was Jeff Van Gundy, now in his fourth year as
Speaker 1: Nick's head coach, and he was starting to gain his
Speaker 1: reputation as being a defensive wizard. And look bringing Latrelle Spreewell,
Speaker 1: who came off the bench for a while. Spree Well
Speaker 1: bought in played great defense, and Marcus Campy came in
Speaker 1: as a rim protector and he played great defense. He
Speaker 1: really didn't hit his stride until the playoffs. But both
Speaker 1: these guys turned from hey, all right, now we're turning
Speaker 1: the page, let's see what we get, and they turned
Speaker 1: into be incredibly important players as the Knicks got into
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, you look at what Marcus can me.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of one of those afterthoughts in
Speaker 1: our NBA history. And I don't know if he ever
Speaker 1: got the credit because the numbers weren't there, or maybe
Speaker 1: the teams he played on because there weren't a giant accolades.
Speaker 1: But as a rebounder and defensive player, I mean, now
Speaker 1: he'd be one of the most celebrated guys going with
Speaker 1: all the advanced metrics we have for changing shots and everything.
Speaker 1: They're a good player, but you know, certainly on this
Speaker 1: team overshadowed by some of the other names. So as
Speaker 1: the Knicks get ready for the nine season, let's concentrate
Speaker 1: on the year. So this is when they actually went
Speaker 1: to the NBA finals. What happened back as the Knicks
Speaker 1: were set for that big run in my last time,
Speaker 1: I really really enjoyed the Knicks in a minute in
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Speaker 1: what I started listening to the Avalanches. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I found them on Someone's going, Wow, the Avalanches are
Speaker 1: pretty fun. They've been around for like twenty years because
Speaker 1: I was I looking for them. No, but if it's
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Speaker 1: Tour de France back when land Storms Wrong was an
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Speaker 1: see the phantom menace. I have to see what George
Speaker 1: Lucas comes up with before I widely pan it and
Speaker 1: trounce it on any avenue and platform I have. They
Speaker 1: rented out a theater for us, but it was a big,
Speaker 1: you know, together a moment at Yahoo. But the it
Speaker 1: was the early morning. I was working in shift because
Speaker 1: I was helping run the sports site. So they're like,
Speaker 1: you want to come? Like absolutely, I walked in. One
Speaker 1: guy had all the mini bottles. I had a couple
Speaker 1: of jugs of orange juice. They led us into the theater.
Speaker 1: It was good times. What are you gotten there? Orange juice? Alright?
Speaker 1: Come on? Literally I was carrying. There was no hiding
Speaker 1: what we were about to do that just orange joice
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Speaker 1: So that was what things looked like in nine. Now
Speaker 1: what did things look like for the Knicks? Way do
Speaker 1: we tell you how they got in the playoffs? And way,
Speaker 1: doll we tell you and remind you about some of
Speaker 1: the biggest plays in recent NBA history and how they
Speaker 1: went down and how they involved the Knicks and their
Speaker 1: run to the NBA Finals. The Unforgettable continues. Here are
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Speaker 1: continue on the Special Teams podcast with Jason Smith and
Speaker 1: Mike Harmon looking back in New York Knicks, who defied
Speaker 1: all odds to make it to the NBA Finals, where
Speaker 1: they fell to the San Antonio Spurs. The regular seasons
Speaker 1: we talked about with the lockout was only gonna be
Speaker 1: fifty games, and early on Patrick Ewing got hurt and
Speaker 1: Latrelle Spreewell got hurt, so the Knicks really couldn't get
Speaker 1: into an offensive rhythm. They were really good defensive team,
Speaker 1: but they had trouble scoring points. That kind of meandered
Speaker 1: their way through the regular season, no real instances or
Speaker 1: glimmers to show you they could be an NBA Finals team.
Speaker 1: They were twenty one and twenty one going into the
Speaker 1: final eight games of the season. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a case where you're twenty one twenty one, you can
Speaker 1: or maybe not make the It's a toss up at
Speaker 1: that point. The Knicks had to go on a run
Speaker 1: to win six of their last eight games just to
Speaker 1: make it. They get in is the eight seed over Charlotte,
Speaker 1: where no one expected anything of them even though they
Speaker 1: were they were hot. It was okay, well the Knicks
Speaker 1: or the eight seed the Miami Heat, who everybody thought
Speaker 1: was that they were ascending. They were gonna be the
Speaker 1: next great team coming out of the Eastern Conference. They
Speaker 1: were gonna wind up being thing. We're gonna dispatch the
Speaker 1: Knicks very easily in the first round. But it turned
Speaker 1: out the Knicks were peaking. We didn't know that at
Speaker 1: this time though, because we're at the fifty point or
Speaker 1: the fifty game market what would be a normal regular season. Now,
Speaker 1: with time to look back at this, you can say,
Speaker 1: all right, the Knicks would have been a great team,
Speaker 1: because if they started playing this well, once everybody got
Speaker 1: back and healthy at game fifty, this would have been
Speaker 1: a team that was twenty one, would have gone on
Speaker 1: a run, would have gotten into the maybe the top
Speaker 1: half of the Eastern Conference, and been a really good
Speaker 1: team in the playoffs. But it turns out they peaked
Speaker 1: at a time when they were just starting to come
Speaker 1: together as a team. But instead of the right sular season, Hey,
Speaker 1: the last thirty games are gonna be really tough. It's hey,
Speaker 1: now that it counts, we're gonna surprise everybody in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: In the business of basketball being different in general back then,
Speaker 1: but certainly in this particular year. Right, you have your
Speaker 1: off season, which extended forever because of the lockout, but
Speaker 1: really because of the compressed schedule. Once you're in, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of shuffling, right, you're still finding yourself.
Speaker 1: Maybe you had the they had the early injuries, which
Speaker 1: probably was all the better for when they finally got
Speaker 1: into this run. When you talk about the number of
Speaker 1: veterans that they've pulled together, but certainly Alonso Morning, Tim
Speaker 1: Hardaway and that crew with Jamal Bashburn. I mean, you thought,
Speaker 1: all right, scores and they were gonna get bullied, right,
Speaker 1: the identity that they've had in the mid nineties seemingly gone,
Speaker 1: and just out of the gate, they get punched in
Speaker 1: the mouth. This turns out to be a classic first
Speaker 1: round series. This is back when the first round was
Speaker 1: only five games, which was a huge advantage to the
Speaker 1: lower seeded teams because you could get hot and win
Speaker 1: a five game series against a really good team. But
Speaker 1: you play seven games and normally talent and the higher
Speaker 1: seed Wills out, but because it was a five game series,
Speaker 1: the Knicks take this series with the Heat to five
Speaker 1: games and it ends with a play that is probably
Speaker 1: my favorite Knicks memory of all time because bat you know, listen,
Speaker 1: I hated the Miami Heat when I was a Knicks fan.
Speaker 1: You know, Look, I'm not crazy about a lot of
Speaker 1: teams in the Eastern Conferences the Knicks fan, but the
Speaker 1: Heat was a big rival. And it comes down to
Speaker 1: the final seconds of Game five and one of the
Speaker 1: most famous shots in NBA history. Alan Houston hits a
Speaker 1: floater in the lane that he just kind of throws
Speaker 1: up and it bounces up off the back of the rim,
Speaker 1: off the backboard, and down through the net for the game.
Speaker 1: When he shot, the Knicks go absolutely crazy and they
Speaker 1: go onto the second round of the playoffs. Still nobody
Speaker 1: took the Knicks seriously because Wow, they pulled the big
Speaker 1: first round upset. They beat the Miami Heat. Now the
Speaker 1: Eastern Conferences wide open. The Indie A Pacers are happy
Speaker 1: because now they're the favorites going on. It was just
Speaker 1: a fun moment for the Knicks and maybe the moment
Speaker 1: of Alan Houston's career where he looks back at his
Speaker 1: entire career besides counting money. It's this shot, but you've
Speaker 1: seen that shot so many times. The floater, it's the rim,
Speaker 1: it's the backboard, it's through the Knicks all tackle him,
Speaker 1: and the heat are just stunned. We just went home
Speaker 1: to the Knicks. We just went home in five games.
Speaker 1: Well you just look at the way that this series
Speaker 1: set up, right back and forth, win loss, win loss,
Speaker 1: and come back with the buzzer beater. You know, Ewing
Speaker 1: was two and eleven in that game Houston, it was
Speaker 1: five and five for twelve before that shot only from
Speaker 1: the field for the heat. You know, they shot right,
Speaker 1: one of those classic you don't get defense like this,
Speaker 1: and you know, wait, one of those teams didn't break
Speaker 1: a hundred and five. But that way, well, that was
Speaker 1: the way the NBA was. You know, people have this
Speaker 1: misconception of the nineties of because they think about Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan's us think boy, the free, the free flowing up
Speaker 1: and down NBA. Now that was the eighties. That was
Speaker 1: the eighties when teams like the Denver Nuggets, wh would
Speaker 1: shoot the ball every five seconds. Hey final in Denver
Speaker 1: one awesome. But the nineties was more you could play defense.
Speaker 1: It was harder to score, and the referees allowed teams
Speaker 1: to pay. Could still hand check. You could still get
Speaker 1: an elbow and a guy's kidney. I mean, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Call it what it is. Hello, kidney,
Speaker 1: I'm the elbow. Go watch Go watch guys jostle in
Speaker 1: the low post. There's a lot of physicality. Now you
Speaker 1: go on and you breathe on a guy back of
Speaker 1: the guy's neck getting into the lane, and you're getting
Speaker 1: called for a file. But overall, great defense here in morning,
Speaker 1: just six of fourteen from the fields, twenty one points.
Speaker 1: But talk about just shutting down the outside shot. Well,
Speaker 1: look at this NIXT team would never make it now
Speaker 1: because they don't let you play defense like this. Although
Speaker 1: they'd be better than the Knicks now, But this team
Speaker 1: would never make it now because I'd like to see
Speaker 1: these players actually against the current Knicks, to be honest
Speaker 1: with Well, that you mean, with their current ages, because
Speaker 1: all these guys are in their fifties. That's fine, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I think I can still get good fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes out of Patrick Ewing in the low post. Charles
Speaker 1: Oakley still has a lot of fight. You saw you
Speaker 1: saw him getting kicked out of Madison Square Garden a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. He will still be a dominant
Speaker 1: force in the low post because nobody's going in and
Speaker 1: challenging him. But that was the hallmark of the Knicks,
Speaker 1: was their defense, and Jeff Van Gundy really you know,
Speaker 1: pushed that out and he got them to buy in.
Speaker 1: So they win the first round series against the Heat.
Speaker 1: Now that okay, that was nice, but now let's see
Speaker 1: and then they sweep the Hawks in the second round
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. I'm thinking, oh, my goodness, something really
Speaker 1: good could happen here. That was when Marcus Canby was huge.
Speaker 1: He wound up having just such a big series. It was, Hey,
Speaker 1: maybe the Knicks really as much as they're peaking. Hey,
Speaker 1: maybe this is when these guys are starting to really explode.
Speaker 1: Marcus Campbell always had the biggest potential in Toronto, you know,
Speaker 1: coming out of you Mass. Maybe now he's gonna be
Speaker 1: the air apparent because the Knicks got him to segue
Speaker 1: from Patrick Ewing to him as the dominant big n
Speaker 1: because the Knicks always had a dominant big man. They
Speaker 1: had Patrick Ewing for years and now, okay, now we're
Speaker 1: moving on. We're moving on to the next part of
Speaker 1: our existence, and Patrick Ewing is gonna just pass the
Speaker 1: torch to Marcus Canby. And this is when can Be
Speaker 1: first started to become a real force this series. And
Speaker 1: it was awesome. Now and as excited as I was
Speaker 1: because I'm a Knicks fan, I'm kind of fatalistic because
Speaker 1: after they sweep the Hawks, it's well, we have Reggie
Speaker 1: Miller and here come the Pacers, and all I can
Speaker 1: think of is the eight points and nine seconds, ridiculous
Speaker 1: crap with Spike Lee, And all I can think is
Speaker 1: that they're just gonna blow the doors off of us
Speaker 1: here in the Eastern Conference Finals. It's a nice run,
Speaker 1: and I'm believing in them. But now it's the Pacers
Speaker 1: and it's Reggie Miller and he's laughing at us, and
Speaker 1: this is what's gonna happen. All right, We'll get to
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller in a second. I can't closs over some
Speaker 1: of the legends on that Atlanta Hawks to oh that
Speaker 1: that was? That, that was, that was the Who's taller?
Speaker 1: Mike for Teller were spud Web legend of the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 1: But you got guy that was way before that you
Speaker 1: got to kem By Mutambo, You've got Mookie Blaylock, You've
Speaker 1: got Steve Smith. There's your score. The first Steve Smith, Yes,
Speaker 1: and then Tyrone Corvin was still a member of this squad.
Speaker 1: I mean that's now we're going ben a way machine
Speaker 1: as a kid from Chicago. As you look at that roster,
Speaker 1: but they didn't get much of a bench contribution at all,
Speaker 1: Like you basically were playing their starters, and well they
Speaker 1: beat them down and look at these out defense on
Speaker 1: the outside shots and no chance. You know, people forget
Speaker 1: the Hawks were entertaining for a long time, you know,
Speaker 1: from the eighties of the Fratello spud Web, Dominique Wilkins, Uh,
Speaker 1: Kevin Willis human highlight real era into the night. Okay,
Speaker 1: now they they they've kind of replaced and recharge. They
Speaker 1: were still a fun team. You know, they've they've turned
Speaker 1: to a waste land now, but they were a fun team.
Speaker 1: Mookie Blaylock was a really good point guard. And this
Speaker 1: is a team that you know, Okay, now here come
Speaker 1: the Anna Hawks and the Nicks just sweep them aside
Speaker 1: in four games, and it's I've just seen this going.
Speaker 1: I I can't believe this, but still here come the
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers, and now it's gonna end for us. Yeah
Speaker 1: they were fun and exciting, they inspired Pearl Jam's name,
Speaker 1: but whit we move on. They you vanquished them with
Speaker 1: a sweep four games to nil, and now we we
Speaker 1: go to Indiana. So in Indiana I get the big
Speaker 1: dose of reality because here is the big injury that
Speaker 1: really might have changed things that season. And how the
Speaker 1: NBA ended Game two against the Pacers. They lose Patrick
Speaker 1: Ewing to a torn achilles tendon. And again this is
Speaker 1: where my Knicks fatalism takes over and I go, uh,
Speaker 1: it's over. They're not. They just lost Patrick Ewing. Even
Speaker 1: though he was older and he was you know, he
Speaker 1: was still the lynchpin of this team. And what are
Speaker 1: the Knicks gonna do without him? How could they possibly
Speaker 1: now beat the Indiana Pacers without Patrick Ewing their emotional lead?
Speaker 1: Are still their leaders? Still a guy that was scoring,
Speaker 1: you know well forem and rebounding and still the said
Speaker 1: the guy you had to stop on the team. Even
Speaker 1: though they had other players, you know, guys were still
Speaker 1: starting to get into their bigger roles, but Patrick Ewing
Speaker 1: was still the guy. And then you lose him, and
Speaker 1: it would be easy for the Knicks to say, boy,
Speaker 1: that's been a great run. What what a bad piece
Speaker 1: of luck we have here, and now we're just gonna
Speaker 1: go home pretty quietly. Well, but this is why you
Speaker 1: ended up paying Alan Houston. This is what you have,
Speaker 1: you know, from some of those veterans bringing in Marcus
Speaker 1: Camby and Larry Johnson. You know, folks remember him for commercials.
Speaker 1: For a spell he was a dominant force, but overshadowed,
Speaker 1: I think because he never hit that mountain right. It
Speaker 1: was a fun personality. I think today's age player like
Speaker 1: him doing a little bit of that and commercials. You
Speaker 1: might look past how bad the Knicks have been if
Speaker 1: you were playing for them now. At least he's fun
Speaker 1: because you have an add of character you had Christmas
Speaker 1: Skorzingis for a flash. But just think about the mix
Speaker 1: the players on this team now is they're navigating the
Speaker 1: playoffs and one of those last gasp runs, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's spree well and it's Larry Johnson and as
Speaker 1: Charlie Ward, it's all these guys, it's Alan Houston. It's
Speaker 1: like what a rag tag group. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: one of those movies where you go, well, alright, kids,
Speaker 1: we we you know, here the coach shows up and
Speaker 1: it's a bunch of different ragamuffin kids who who he's
Speaker 1: got a whip into shape to play soccer or baseball,
Speaker 1: and somehow they find themselves in the championship at the
Speaker 1: end of the season. You know, that's kind of what
Speaker 1: this Knicks team was like. It's here's LJ who had
Speaker 1: a great career, but now he's moving on near the end.
Speaker 1: How is he going to finish? How is spree Well
Speaker 1: gonna finish? How are all these guys gonna finish? And
Speaker 1: they caught lightning in a bottle in this moment in time,
Speaker 1: and here they are now face with the biggest adversity
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference Finals. They lose Patrick Ewing and
Speaker 1: what happens Game three? My second favorite memory of the
Speaker 1: Knicks is the big Larry Johnson four point play in
Speaker 1: which the Knicks are losing at the end. You think, okay,
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose Game three and l J hits the three,
Speaker 1: gets fouled, makes the free throw, and it was stunning.
Speaker 1: It was stunning for the Knicks to say, well, how
Speaker 1: do you foul someone on a three pointer and you
Speaker 1: allow them to make the free throw, and the Knicks
Speaker 1: go on to win this game. And that's when I
Speaker 1: started to think, Okay, maybe it's destiny. Well maybe it's
Speaker 1: destiny for the Knicks. But it's one of those book
Speaker 1: and we can argue these two were blue in the face.
Speaker 1: What the continuation was. I can't tell you the number
Speaker 1: of times I threw a pair of socks to shoe
Speaker 1: or something harder at a television over magic. Johnson stopped
Speaker 1: dribbling long ago, and he got fouloled at the top
Speaker 1: of the key. Yet he keeps going and now it's
Speaker 1: a good deal. And and one like, wait, what not
Speaker 1: to say that? You know, my beloved bulls didn't see
Speaker 1: a bunch of those for Jordan's but it never made
Speaker 1: any sense. And that's what you have here with Larry
Speaker 1: Johnson right initiates contact, The fall doesn't come right away,
Speaker 1: but you have a delayed from the official ball goes
Speaker 1: in and now all of a sudden you've got chaos.
Speaker 1: I mean this play the way it shakes down. The
Speaker 1: Knicks are down with fifteen seconds left to go. They're
Speaker 1: in bounding the ball from the pacers side, of the
Speaker 1: floor and they give the ball to LJ, who gets
Speaker 1: the ball about five ft back of the three point line.
Speaker 1: Now there's twelve seconds left. You're down three, going and
Speaker 1: get a hoop and foul and get back to the
Speaker 1: three throw and but this is Larry Johnson then gets
Speaker 1: the ball and does one of those Carmelo Anthony is
Speaker 1: so plays like, I'm like, wait, we're running an play
Speaker 1: for Larry if I learned it from watching you, Okay,
Speaker 1: is LJ gonna take a three? What is he doing?
Speaker 1: And he, you know, he holds onto the ball and
Speaker 1: I'm watching the time take away and I'm like, we're
Speaker 1: gonna lose. We're gonna lose, We're gonna lose. And then
Speaker 1: he goes and he takes a quick jab step to
Speaker 1: the left and he hits his three Davis with the foul,
Speaker 1: and you can debate the continuation part of it, but
Speaker 1: they run and they celebrate before you hit the free
Speaker 1: throw exactly. You know, they're back down at the other
Speaker 1: end of the course. Because I don't think he believed
Speaker 1: he got like they were gonna call the fall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he makes this shot and it goes through with about
Speaker 1: five seconds left, Alright, So with five seconds left, l
Speaker 1: running down the floor and they're hugging each other because
Speaker 1: I made the three, and now he's going to the
Speaker 1: When would that ever happen? Now, where you make a three,
Speaker 1: you're going to the free throw line. There's still five
Speaker 1: seconds left. You still have to defend to try to
Speaker 1: win this game. Now here's the best stat I can
Speaker 1: throw at you from Larry Johnson. He averaged for his
Speaker 1: career one point six three point shots per game. How
Speaker 1: about that? I saw ball in a three point game
Speaker 1: with a guy who's taken fewer than do three point shots.
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is unbelievable. I really That's when
Speaker 1: I thought it was destiny. And that's when that's when
Speaker 1: his big l J would be a big He would
Speaker 1: make the L for LJ Too Older rock and Roll
Speaker 1: but Too Young to Die album where Ian Anderson's giving
Speaker 1: you one at ease. He makes the free throw. The
Speaker 1: Knicks win the game. They were down, they wind up
Speaker 1: winning and that changed everything in the series. That gave
Speaker 1: the Knicks of two games to one series. That game
Speaker 1: was in New York, even though they had to go
Speaker 1: on the road. They win Game five over the Pacers one,
Speaker 1: setting up game six in Madison Square Garden. They win.
Speaker 1: They go to the NBA Finals, and it was really,
Speaker 1: they gotta win this game. Here we are, it's in
Speaker 1: New York. They gotta We don't want to go to
Speaker 1: Game seven. And in Game six, this is when Alan
Speaker 1: Houston explodes his second great moment he can remember as
Speaker 1: as a Nick star. He goes for thirty two points
Speaker 1: in Game six, and Reggie Miller is just awful. This
Speaker 1: is when the Pacers count on Reggie Miller. And this
Speaker 1: was the beginning of the time when you understood that
Speaker 1: maybe the Pacers can't always count on Reggie Miller, and
Speaker 1: in big times in the playoffs, because he would go
Speaker 1: on to miss a lot of shots in the two
Speaker 1: thousand and be Finals against the Los Angeles Lakers, and
Speaker 1: he goes three for eight teen from the floor. The
Speaker 1: Knicks win this Game two. They move on to the
Speaker 1: NBA Finals. Larry Johnson hurts his knee, but I didn't care.
Speaker 1: I mean I cared. Larry Johnson was out moved on.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. We're gonna play with four and win
Speaker 1: the NBA Championship because this is just death. This is it.
Speaker 1: The Knicks are gonna win because nobody has a season
Speaker 1: like this that doesn't end with them winning a championship.
Speaker 1: They were playing the Spurs, and the Spurs were great,
Speaker 1: but there was no way they weren't gonna win. Charmed life.
Speaker 1: Everything had come together, they'd gone through and navigated all injuries.
Speaker 1: When they needed a big spot from Houston, they got it.
Speaker 1: Needed a big game from Spree, well they got him.
Speaker 1: As a number two. He got scoring a little bit
Speaker 1: and more balanced as you rolled through. So yes, it
Speaker 1: appeared that the charmed life for one Jason Smith and
Speaker 1: all his New York Knicks brethren, it was gonna come
Speaker 1: to this, This ragamuffin group as you labeled them before.
Speaker 1: Here they were on the press, this great I was
Speaker 1: so excited, and then what happened the NBA Finals happened.
Speaker 1: What happened after was also the end of that era
Speaker 1: of the Knicks as we know them, and maybe one
Speaker 1: injury that could have changed the course of NBA history.
Speaker 1: We have that coming up next right here. Special Teams
Speaker 1: with Jason Smith and Mike car In the last time
Speaker 1: they were relevant New York Knicks. So the next headed
Speaker 1: into the NBA Finals against the San Antonio Spurs. The
Speaker 1: eight seed in the East playing for the NBA Championship,
Speaker 1: something you would never see now because an eight seed
Speaker 1: is never gonna win enough seven game series to get
Speaker 1: past the elite teams in the NBA. You're just not
Speaker 1: gonna see that. It's a stack death. NUS wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: happen that the Spurs were the best team in the
Speaker 1: Western Conference. This was Tim Duncan. This was his moment
Speaker 1: to jump up and say, Hey, I'm gonna be a
Speaker 1: big superstar. David Robinson trying to put the exclamation point
Speaker 1: of his career with the championship. It was going to
Speaker 1: be that. They called him the Twin Towers uh in
Speaker 1: San Antonio, and the commercials that were on TV of
Speaker 1: David Robinson trying to bring Tim Duncan a long note
Speaker 1: when they're playing one on one and David Robinson's house, No, Tim,
Speaker 1: the flower bed is out of it. Still, remember those
Speaker 1: trying to make the boundaries him dunk in a star,
Speaker 1: the quiet star that he was for twenty years in
Speaker 1: the NBA. They tried because David Robinson, I mean, became
Speaker 1: a more vocal guy years after he retired, not that
Speaker 1: he wasn't a one of the faces of the game.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't a he was. Let's go to David
Speaker 1: Robinson for a quote. He wasn't that. So the Nicks
Speaker 1: facing the heavily favorite Spurs, I didn't care. It's it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They're going to doesn't matter at this point.
Speaker 1: No LJ no Patrick Ewing, no what, no matter who
Speaker 1: wasn't playing. They could play with three guys and I'm
Speaker 1: taking threes. The Knicks are still gonna win now. The
Speaker 1: knicks defensive effort throughout the NBA playoffs was astounding. They
Speaker 1: did not allow an opponent to get to a hundred
Speaker 1: points in any of their games. I mean, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is back in the rough and tumble days of the
Speaker 1: NBA the late nineteen nineties, but still not allowing a
Speaker 1: team to get to a hundred is a very big deal.
Speaker 1: And San Antonio's point totals in the NBA Finals eighty
Speaker 1: nine eight eight one, nineties seventy eight, the Knicks still
Speaker 1: played great defense. Unfortunately, the Knicks point totals in the
Speaker 1: NBA sixty seven seven seventy seven, that's not that's like
Speaker 1: a good three quarters from the Lakers now, A wee
Speaker 1: bit sluggish as it were, because the other thing is
Speaker 1: when you go back and you watch clips of this,
Speaker 1: either NBA TV or YouTube and and go back through
Speaker 1: you notice how few three point attempts there are, right,
Speaker 1: and mentioned Larry Johnson as an individual. But for the
Speaker 1: team's game for game, if they got to double digits,
Speaker 1: it was a big deal, right as a as a team,
Speaker 1: unless Reggie Miller was out, There's something to that effect.
Speaker 1: But for the most part it was a let's still
Speaker 1: get the ball into the low post and grind away,
Speaker 1: and both teams here certainly structured that way. Now, this
Speaker 1: was a reality check for the Knicks in the finals.
Speaker 1: They lose the first two games by double digits at
Speaker 1: the Alamo Dome, and my destiny for the Knicks is
Speaker 1: sort of wavering a little bit here. All sad. Yeah, Look,
Speaker 1: without Patrick Ewing, they couldn't slow down Duncan and Robinson.
Speaker 1: It was impossible. Would this have been a different series
Speaker 1: if Patrick Ewing is playing, damn right, it would have
Speaker 1: been well, at least have another big body to beat
Speaker 1: the hell out of him down low. You would have
Speaker 1: found a way to get Ewing and Marcus Can be
Speaker 1: on the court at the same time. And could you
Speaker 1: have stopped Tim Duncan, No Tim Duncan. This was the
Speaker 1: beginning of him. You know, look, first year in the NBA,
Speaker 1: and he took the NBA by storm and he was
Speaker 1: una leavable all right, just for Tim Duncan for a
Speaker 1: couple of seconds, even though it's about the knicks. He
Speaker 1: came out of Wake Forest and we thought he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a really good player. And he's one of those
Speaker 1: few guys that right away, within the first five minutes
Speaker 1: of his first game, this guy's special. The way he
Speaker 1: used the backboard, the way he went about his business,
Speaker 1: and the way he was able to deal with the
Speaker 1: harsh spotlight but still be someone that didn't provide any headlines.
Speaker 1: He was a superstar right away, and you knew this
Speaker 1: guy was gonna have a long career. In all the
Speaker 1: Spurs championships, there's one link, it's Tim Duncan. But this
Speaker 1: was the first year of man, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan's NBA. You know, we're looking what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: after Michael Jordan retires, who's gonna be the next star?
Speaker 1: And certainly Kobe Bryant is in his infancy in the NBA,
Speaker 1: and we're still a couple of years away from Lebron James.
Speaker 1: It's boy, this is gonna be Tim Duncan's NBA. Now,
Speaker 1: granted he wound up sharing the stage with those players
Speaker 1: for the next fifteen years, but he was the one constant.
Speaker 1: They won championships and Tim Duncan was He was saying, Oh,
Speaker 1: my goodness, how lucky did the Spurs getting lottery? How
Speaker 1: lucky did Greg Popovich's today? You're you're able to in
Speaker 1: an age where you're still looking at the big man.
Speaker 1: Not that centers don't have their place now, but it's
Speaker 1: certainly a different NBA talking about the way you're you're
Speaker 1: looking at more three points, shooting more, not really going
Speaker 1: down into the low post and slowing it down. I
Speaker 1: mean these games totals. People would be complaining how unwatchable
Speaker 1: this was because they did it with the Spurs for years. Right,
Speaker 1: Tim's boring, They're boring, They're effective and he used his angles.
Speaker 1: By god, he actually learned something on the basketball court
Speaker 1: of how to use the backboard disadvantage. Nobody does that.
Speaker 1: How dare he not go for the swish and use
Speaker 1: the back one? He's is he yelling glass all the time? No,
Speaker 1: he's just putting thirty on you. So the Knicks, they
Speaker 1: would have stayed in the series more, but it would
Speaker 1: have at least gone seven. And I liked the nixt
Speaker 1: chance because that's exactly what they would have done. It
Speaker 1: would have been data thrown ewing and canby at both
Speaker 1: of them. And would they have slowed them down enough
Speaker 1: to make it a series, Yeah, they would have, but
Speaker 1: obviously they couldn't. And when you run into a team
Speaker 1: that is that much better, this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: The Knicks win Game three and they restore hope a
Speaker 1: little bit, but they lose Game four at Madison Square
Speaker 1: Garden eighty nine. They trail three games to one going
Speaker 1: into Game five, and this was, okay, let's stick a
Speaker 1: FOURK in the Knicks because even if they win Game five,
Speaker 1: they gotta go back to the Automodome and try to
Speaker 1: win game six d Game seven. Were they really gonna
Speaker 1: do that? But still they give everybody hope. It comes
Speaker 1: down to the final seconds and Latrelle Spreewell has like
Speaker 1: a crazy reverse layup that he actually puts up after
Speaker 1: the buzzer, but it would have been ruled good if
Speaker 1: it went it doesn't go. The Spurs win sev seventy seven.
Speaker 1: I remember Spreewell doing an interview on the court afterwards, saying,
Speaker 1: I'll be back next year. I'll be back, that this
Speaker 1: is my team now, because he really became the number
Speaker 1: one star of this team. You know, he went from
Speaker 1: coming off the bench early into becoming a star, into being, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is now who we got to build around. Because
Speaker 1: he was their leading score in the playoffs, scored twenty
Speaker 1: points a game in the playoffs, the only twenty point
Speaker 1: scorer the Knicks had. It became Latrelle spree Wells team,
Speaker 1: and he said I'll be back. He was really upset, disappointed,
Speaker 1: and I thought, Okay, this is gonna be the springboard
Speaker 1: to a lot of success. But still watching the Spurs
Speaker 1: celebrate on the court and Tim Duncan's got his personal
Speaker 1: video cameras taking video of all his teammates and everything,
Speaker 1: and it was boy, what a great run for the Knicks.
Speaker 1: It didn't strike me that this would be the last
Speaker 1: time I would celebrate the Knicks getting this far. Basically,
Speaker 1: isn't it but that? But this was it. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was as good as it was gonna get. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got that raggamuffin rag tag bunch of kids. Like.
Speaker 1: It was an odd year, right. Jordan's finished off the
Speaker 1: Jazz in June, and then he had a long lockout.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if we're gonna work. He got Patrick Ewing.
Speaker 1: He became a voice with his famous quote, we make
Speaker 1: a lot of money, we spend a lot of money.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was this lockout or the others,
Speaker 1: because there were several. Uh. And the fact that they
Speaker 1: have more labor piece now is a very nice thing
Speaker 1: because back in the day really volats out with the
Speaker 1: late David Stern. But when we look at where where
Speaker 1: we were for that year, I mean, there was no semblance,
Speaker 1: uh that you'd ever get that cohesion, right, So many
Speaker 1: guys changed teams in the off season, all right, normally
Speaker 1: fifty games in is really where you figure it out.
Speaker 1: You talk about the trade deadline and grabbing him missing
Speaker 1: piece or two along the way during that season mid season, right,
Speaker 1: they canceled the All Star and game and everything else
Speaker 1: based on when they start. You don't you don't know
Speaker 1: what you got, you know. And there's another reason why
Speaker 1: I thought the door is opened because now the Knicks
Speaker 1: have a deep team. Jordan's retired. You know, Okay, he's
Speaker 1: gonna come back eventually, but he's retired for now. So
Speaker 1: the doors open and the Knicks are gonna be really good.
Speaker 1: And next year they did win fifty games and was
Speaker 1: all right, hey, they're still rolling. They get to the
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals, but they lose to the Indiana Pacers,
Speaker 1: and that was really it because the Knicks trade Patrick
Speaker 1: Ewing to the Sonics after Canby doesn't really develop as
Speaker 1: they thought he would, and that was the slow, piece
Speaker 1: by piece dismantling of the Knicks. And then here comes
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas and to run things and oh, my goodness
Speaker 1: of struggle, what you did. But you know, look they
Speaker 1: they validated the next year, they said, okay, we're still
Speaker 1: a really good team. They get to the Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: Finals and they can't get by the Pacers, and the
Speaker 1: Pacers move on to the NBA Finals where they lose
Speaker 1: to the Lakers, and it was just okay, that moment,
Speaker 1: the trade of Patrick Ewing to the Sonics, that's really
Speaker 1: the end of the Knicks era. And then players who
Speaker 1: didn't progress, we're kind of sold off, finished their careers
Speaker 1: and they weren't replenished, and just a season before it
Speaker 1: was boy, look how deep the Knicks are. Look how
Speaker 1: good we're gonna be. And then it was oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was really a one moment in time and now
Speaker 1: they're done. You want to sing one moment in time
Speaker 1: for the good people, Give me one moment or a
Speaker 1: moment like this. I think it more be a moment
Speaker 1: like this. Now. Some people wait a lifetime, but you've
Speaker 1: been waiting twenty years about an American idol started to write.
Speaker 1: Some people wait a lifetime for a moment. There's no
Speaker 1: question about that, all right. So that was New York Knicks,
Speaker 1: full of highlights, full of drama, full of injuries that
Speaker 1: run that that we still can't forget. And look, of
Speaker 1: the two teams that year, the Knicks were more memorable
Speaker 1: than the Spurs because the Spurs has kind of took
Speaker 1: care of business all the way through to the NBA title.
Speaker 1: But oh look, they were the Spurs of Robinson and
Speaker 1: Duncan and we're just gonna go about our business and
Speaker 1: here are the Knicks, who you know, kind of grabbed
Speaker 1: everybody and said, hey, here comes in eight seed. It's
Speaker 1: a big market team that is playing like the Cinderella
Speaker 1: and it was really interesting to follow. They had the
Speaker 1: big headlines, they had the big shots, they had the
Speaker 1: big injuries. That had all the attention. It was Knicks, Knicks, Knicks, Nicks, Knicks,
Speaker 1: and I remember that year. It was the year before
Speaker 1: the Lakers became The Lakers went to three straight NBA
Speaker 1: finals and it was we could see Nicks Lakers here
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Oh my god, Knicks Lakers, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Knicks Lakers, and the world would have ended with Knicks Lakers.
Speaker 1: But I mean, really, when you you can set up
Speaker 1: the season by going, what's Latrelle spree Well gonna do
Speaker 1: next year? I mean, that's that's the other part is
Speaker 1: in today's headlines right, the way we look at our
Speaker 1: our sports and the lens we have when you add
Speaker 1: social media, the quick responses, players taking it into their
Speaker 1: own hands. We've had some good, some bad, some ugly
Speaker 1: in that regard. Think about Latrelle Spree Well in today's
Speaker 1: NBA coming out of that, how much attention would be
Speaker 1: on and would you be able to hold the pressure
Speaker 1: in New York game the game, right, I mean, because
Speaker 1: that was one of the subplots of all this was
Speaker 1: would he hold it together for a full fifty plus
Speaker 1: a postseason, And he did and stuck around another couple
Speaker 1: of years. But and he was still pretty good. He's
Speaker 1: still average. You know, he played with the Knicks up
Speaker 1: until two thousand three, still averaged eighteen nineteen points a game.
Speaker 1: But it just wasn't the same. You know, he didn't
Speaker 1: he didn't jump out become the twenty four or twenty
Speaker 1: five point scorer he was with Golden State. He had
Speaker 1: his role, and his role was as leader, leading score,
Speaker 1: but you needed a lot more. You can't just say, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get behind Latrell Sprewell. He's gonna carry us,
Speaker 1: not like you could say we're gonna get behind Tim Duncan.
Speaker 1: He's gonna carry us. But he did play another four
Speaker 1: another three years with the Knicks, and he had pretty
Speaker 1: good seasons. Well. He ended up becoming a valuable cog
Speaker 1: for you. And I know you still have that game
Speaker 1: use headband that you bought all those years ago in
Speaker 1: the infancy of online merchandizing and the I mean, the
Speaker 1: other thing that we mentioned obviously was you thought you
Speaker 1: were gonna get massive runs out of Alan Houston that
Speaker 1: he would become a twenty one point a game score.
Speaker 1: Never they all that money. Never scored nine his career
Speaker 1: high in two thousand to two thousand three. But otherwise
Speaker 1: for the career, you're looking at a fifteen pointing game
Speaker 1: the game all that money, he had never even scored
Speaker 1: twenty points a game. I mean, that was that. That
Speaker 1: was that was That was the beginning. That's the first
Speaker 1: of the great Nick signings. So you can talk about.
Speaker 1: But with that in mind, let's take a look at
Speaker 1: somewhere are they now from York? Now? Now, unfortunately a
Speaker 1: couple of these guys had gotten themselves in trouble. We're
Speaker 1: gonna lead the scoff Laws out of here. Patrick Ewing,
Speaker 1: of course back in his alma mater coaching. So we
Speaker 1: start with one of the positives. He got Hurt Williams,
Speaker 1: who was an assistant for the Knicks for a couple
Speaker 1: of years and has now made a nice career as
Speaker 1: an assistant coach for the New York Liberty for the
Speaker 1: w n b A, announcing huge deals and growth in
Speaker 1: that league as well New c B as going on.
Speaker 1: Charlie Ward uh full recovery and unfortunately had a stroke.
Speaker 1: Does a lot of community work. But he's a head
Speaker 1: coach of a voice developmental team at Florida State UH
Speaker 1: and that's part of the Lord of States system in Tallahassee.
Speaker 1: So you got that rolling for him. And then Chris
Speaker 1: Dudley was what I wanted to get to. UH. He's
Speaker 1: a wealth management adviser but also ran for the governorship
Speaker 1: of Oregon back in two thousand and ten as a Republican,
Speaker 1: narrowly lost, raised and spent ten million dollars on his campaign.
Speaker 1: Do you think if he had made more free throws
Speaker 1: during his NBA career he would have won. You think
Speaker 1: that's how he lost? Well, what's funny is he loses
Speaker 1: what forty nine and change to forty eight and change,
Speaker 1: and then there's some noise in there, and that's about
Speaker 1: his career free throw percentage. Do you do you think
Speaker 1: that's what his opponent? UH said, Hey, do you want
Speaker 1: to elect a guy that's shooting thirty seven percent from
Speaker 1: the free throw line? Can't have that come on? His
Speaker 1: career free throw percentage looks like what a Superstars field
Speaker 1: goal percentage is, right, fifty three, forty sixty one, forty seven,
Speaker 1: forty seven. I mean that's what it looked like. You
Speaker 1: can't for him, he can't make his free throws. But yeah,
Speaker 1: an interesting lot put together for this this season, back
Speaker 1: when you can still play defense, and you watch that
Speaker 1: show up in the playoffs for what was a pretty
Speaker 1: magical run some twenty years ago. The best you've had,
Speaker 1: the best ad, the best, the ever will be best
Speaker 1: there is the rest of my life. Red Hart was
Speaker 1: a big star. That's how I look back. York Knicks.
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