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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode Famous Songs with Misunderstood Meanings And at

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Speaker 1: my house to do the podcast today, and I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's a Sunday and you really wouldn't be working.

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Speaker 1: But because I have a pool, I'm here and you

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Speaker 1: could use the kids could use the pool. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: worked out wonderfully. It worked out great. Actually, so you

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Speaker 1: be you don't buy about twenty minutes, yes, because it's

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Speaker 1: it's becoming a thing now to leave the house at

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Speaker 1: the same time. If I want to be somewhere on time,

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Speaker 1: we've got to separate. Oh so you can't get out

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Speaker 1: on time with all four of the we tried. That

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Speaker 1: was the goal to all get here at the same time.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I gotta go see there. So

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Speaker 1: what if they get here a while you're up here?

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Speaker 1: Then I was going to go straight to the back. Okay, cool? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to have them to go to that back like they

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Speaker 1: but that's Eddie. And so we were talking about doing

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Speaker 1: this Bobby cast because we haven't done one, and people

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Speaker 1: like these a lot more than I thought that, not

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Speaker 1: that I I didn't think they would. It's just that

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Speaker 1: we geek out a lot over music, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: think a lot of people like that. I think they

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Speaker 1: just like you. Oh cool Eddie from the Sore Losers podcast,

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Speaker 1: which I encourage you to check out if you like

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Speaker 1: sports or or a guy talk. Do you guys talk

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Speaker 1: about farts a lot or not? No? No? I mean

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Speaker 1: sometimes we do. Yeah. Sometimes we talk about like hooking

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Speaker 1: what girls like that kind of stuff, And it's just

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Speaker 1: like we shouldn't talk about all that. Let's just move on.

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Speaker 1: At home run last night, check out the Sore Losers podcast. Um,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna do famous songs with misunderstood meanings. Trying

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Speaker 1: to think of this well, and this is where it

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Speaker 1: all came from, because on the show recently, I was

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Speaker 1: talking about this song right here, Wonderful Tonight by Eric Clapton,

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Speaker 1: And people usually think this song is a love song, correct,

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Speaker 1: straight up loves song. Yes, because he's like, yes, you

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Speaker 1: look wonderful. People dance their first dance. They play it

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Speaker 1: in romantic scenes of movies because again most people feel

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Speaker 1: it's a love song. But what it's really about is

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Speaker 1: waiting for his girlfriend to get ready, like hurry up? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like hey, yeah, you look great, let's go and again,

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Speaker 1: lots of proms. Yeah. Do you know what cartillian is?

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Speaker 1: Let me see cartillion. It's got to be a rich

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Speaker 1: I would assume that it's this. It's that right, right?

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Speaker 1: What is that? Write? A package of passage where like

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Speaker 1: a girl turns into a woman. Is that? You know

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Speaker 1: how you feel uncomfortable talking about I don't like talking

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Speaker 1: it was. Mike, Will you look up a cotillion? Because

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Speaker 1: of these girls. What was your age? We were juniors

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Speaker 1: and let's dance to it. But this always reminds me

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Speaker 1: The song gets used a lot of problems and weddings,

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Speaker 1: but Eric Clapton wrote Wonderful Tonight in nineteen seventy six

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Speaker 1: while waiting for his girlfriend and future wife, Patty to

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Speaker 1: a Buddy Holly tribute to Paul McCartney put together, and

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Speaker 1: Clapton was in the position that he was used to

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Speaker 1: and he said, listen to this. In the time she

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Speaker 1: right here. Turn that up. It's just how he says it.

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Speaker 1: It's because it's slow, because because if you would have

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Speaker 1: look wonder boss. Let's go exactly. Yeah. A lot of

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Speaker 1: it's the tempo of the song. You want another one? Yes,

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Speaker 1: These are misunderstood songs that are associated with something completely

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Speaker 1: different Bruce Springsteen, Born in the USA. Most people think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honestly, I'd never really listen to these

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Speaker 1: or one of the two. It's back pocket. Yeah, okay, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what was the cotillion? By the way, It's like a

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Speaker 1: Sounds massive? Turn the turn of that for one second,

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Speaker 1: I wonder what will you pull up the lyrics? Read

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Speaker 1: It's um born down in a dead man's town. The

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Speaker 1: mean that verse alone just kind of says it. But

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Speaker 1: hiring man said son. If it was up to me,

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Speaker 1: He had a woman he loved in Saigon. I got

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Speaker 1: This dude who was going to make the movie Born

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Speaker 1: in the USA, but it was too associated with a song.

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Speaker 1: Springsteen helped him out providing the song Light of Day,

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Speaker 1: the original title was Vietnam, and he sent Springsteen the

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Speaker 1: script for the movie called Born in the USA, about

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Speaker 1: a rock band struggling with life and religion, which gave

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Speaker 1: Bruce the idea for the new title. Anyway, it's just

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Speaker 1: it is not what it seems. This is the epitome

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Speaker 1: I Will Always love You. It's not it's not about

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Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty seven, she was invited by the country

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Speaker 1: Always Love You, not a love song about kissy, kissy,

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Speaker 1: that forever them too. She said leaving Porter Wagner wasn't easy.

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Speaker 1: And according to the myth, Collins later found the guilty

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Speaker 1: One was allowed? Why does Eminem say in the Air

422
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: of the night, because it's about to say I thought

423
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: the song was called in the Air Tonight, But it's

424
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: Stands saying it, so it could have been like him

425
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: just getting it wrong. I thought I'd got a wrong

426
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: all these years. It's about to go wow, breakthrough. I

427
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: thought it was called in the Air tonight. That's crazy man. Yeah,

428
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: but even if even he had it wrong, well standard.

429
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: One of my favorite bands that no longer really is

430
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: a relevant band is r E M. Oh yeah, this

431
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: one goes out to the one I love, goes out

432
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: to another one of those songs. Well must piple things

433
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: a love song obviously because it's just one so literal, like,

434
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: goes out to I love like a request. Yeah, that's

435
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: really about using someone over and over again. It was

436
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: our first hit, by the way, this is the first

437
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: r M hit, this one who goes out to the

438
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: one I love? Fire And it's wild that their first

439
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: hit was an eight seven. I wasn't listening to ori

440
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: M No. I was six or seven years old. But

441
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: there was that generational gap where like like my brother

442
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: he knew r M and then I liked r M.

443
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: The later r M. Yeah, when r M hit for me,

444
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: it was losing to my religion was the big video. Uh.

445
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: This was their first hit song. It's not a love song.

446
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: He describes the song. That's about how people use people

447
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: over and over and over again, and until this line

448
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 1: here a simple prop to occupy my time. Is the

449
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: lyric that goes, that's what I'm showing. That's the one

450
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: that sets us straight right there. So what does he say? Fire?

451
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: And then what she's coming she's coming down mountain when

452
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: she comes pretty leak? Oh, I never I've never heard

453
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: that before the time listen, like, if you'll pause up

454
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: for one second. So what they yell in the background

455
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: so faintly is fire and they go she's coming down

456
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: on her own. You'll hear it. Oh, let me see, Mike,

457
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: it's so faint. That's the first I've ever heard that. Okay,

458
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna go back to the beginning of the song

459
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: who Lazy Well here with the new one fromorrow, the

460
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: Rampant rampt years seven. You know, I don't I don't know.

461
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't know where it is. I don't want to

462
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: miss I don't know risk missing it. Wow, I've never

463
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: heard that part. So listen closely, turn it up on

464
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: the fire and Mike, if you don't mind, Hi, all right,

465
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: here you go go. Shot. Listen. First, she's coming down

466
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: on her own. Check it up the way it's to say.

467
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: It's the first it's the first one. It's the one

468
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: we heard earlier. Did you not rewind it? What was it?

469
00:26:46,800 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: You hear it? Downdous? What she's coming down? Wow, dude,

470
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: first I've ever heard that time that we listen to

471
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: the song thousand up. Damn Wow, that's so cool. How

472
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 1: about this one Crashing to Me by Dave Matthews. Oh

473
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: my gosh, Okay, I think I know what this is about.

474
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: There's another stalker and you should know because you're a

475
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: Big Day fan. Huge Day and I now I mean

476
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: frat girls, sorority girls, frat guys like this was their song.

477
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 1: Like girls loved this song. And people would think it's

478
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: about a passionate love affair or a love song. I

479
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: got your skirt a little more your world? To me,

480
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: it's really about a next boyfriend peeping at a woman

481
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: from a window. Because he does say that in the

482
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: verse you've got your ball, you got what? He goes

483
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: right there, bones on the bottom. I'm watching there your

484
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: window up, stare and you wear nothing. That's it. These

485
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: lines give it away. I watch you there through the

486
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: window and I stare at you. You wear nothing, but

487
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: you wear it so well. Creepy off. That was written

488
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: from the point of view from a boyfriend who wants

489
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: his girlfriend bag, I watch you there through the window,

490
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: basically saying he's watching how beautiful she is. The song

491
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: is about a boyeuristic man. Many people can see it

492
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: as a love song and fail we'll see the true

493
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: meaning behind it. On Storyteller's Dave Matthews mentioned that the

494
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: song was written from a peeping tom perspective and no

495
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: one ever got that before. And if that's not enough,

496
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: he says, hike up your skirt a little more to

497
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: show your world to me. But again, if you're not

498
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: being literal with it right, it could mean anything like

499
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: HIGs a little more, share world. It could be like

500
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: exposed me to different feelings and thoughts. Skirt covers one thing,

501
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: but the skirt of the world could be a beef

502
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: skirt could be a fahita. Um. I remember when my

503
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: brother learned this on guitar and he was so proud

504
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: and he's like, dude, sing it, you know all the words,

505
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: and we sang it. We had the whole family there,

506
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, hock up, you're skirled more. My

507
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: dad was like stop that. Stop that next song so

508
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: so mean, even says I'm the king of the castle,

509
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: You're the dirty rascal, A scroll a little bit more.

510
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: Mike by the way Day brought this song by himself,

511
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: But what does that mean? Crashing from better by himself?

512
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: This people be making so much money solo writing these

513
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: songs by David John Matthews crashed into me. What's he

514
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: meaning like, let's get our worlds together? Like? But again

515
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: he put our worlds together? Is also you can't mean anything.

516
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: These guys are so artistic. Slide by the Google dolls

517
00:29:51,560 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: wake up when all I've no clue. People usually think

518
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: it's about being in love. It's really about unplanned pregnancy.

519
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. The song is about dealing with an unplanned pregnancy,

520
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: withlyterrics like I want to wake up where you are

521
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: or I'll do anything you ever dreamed to be complete.

522
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: It's understandable if you overlook that as a song that's

523
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: about pregnancy. Um oh, he says I'm gonna what Yeah,

524
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: he does say I'm gonna let it slide. Does that

525
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: mean like, all right, I'll just let this one slide.

526
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: We got the baby, We're gonna We're gonna do this.

527
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: Listen to this lyrics don't you love the life you killed?

528
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: Meaning meaning like his your priest is on the phone,

529
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: your father hit the wall, your mom disowned you. I'm

530
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: plant pregnancy, or maybe he's talking about her life like

531
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: like he may have. She may have killed her own

532
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: life by being pregnant, like like not literally, like figuratively,

533
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: like your life is over and now you have to

534
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: raise a kid. The life you know you knew is done.

535
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: Johnny Resnick explained it during a storytellers slide is actually

536
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: about these two Catholic teenage kids and a girlfriend gets pregnant,

537
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: and they're deciding whether they should get an abortion, or

538
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: get married or just go on. And I don't think

539
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people get that. The singer described it

540
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: as a nuts so uh sad tale about some hard choices.

541
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: I think about that. It's pretty deep. It sounds a

542
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: little ditty. We listened to all these songs not thinking

543
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: about any of this. American Pie by Don McClaine. I

544
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: can't remember. You'll know what this is about. That's the

545
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: it's the death of the crash part of it, right you,

546
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: So you're right. Mostly it's it encapsulates that whole era,

547
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: and that's and that plane crash um the fifties, right,

548
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: and not even the year, but so much but that era,

549
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: and what kind of was the exclamation point on the

550
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: end of it? Was the plane crash with Richie Vallen's

551
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: the Big Bop or Buddy Holly, and it's referenced in

552
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: the song. But it um, I mean Jam right, Jam

553
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: sang this will be the day that and the day

554
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: that the music died, literally is the day that that

555
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: plane crashed with all the music in it. But he

556
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: said that the lyrics were very ambiguous again, which means

557
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: I know what it means now, Like ambiguity means yeah,

558
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: it's doesn't make much sense. Can't tell really like you

559
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I could go by the way people ask

560
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: me if I left the lyrics open to ambiguity. Of course,

561
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: I didn't want to make a whole series of complex

562
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: of statements. He put the song's original manuscript for auction

563
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: at Christie's call. On the songs, I'm gonna guess it's

564
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: he wrote by himself too, these guys the six minute song,

565
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: Mike is it so so when he there are more

566
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: people that he's referencing, right, like when he says the

567
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: gesture again, I think it's just a time and characters, right,

568
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: And I feel like these characters are just different artists. Well,

569
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: I never thought about that. They were all specific artists,

570
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: Like I think the jesture maybe would be Bob Dylan.

571
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: You could be honest, something I don't know. Might we

572
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: do with that? Hi the gesture and miss American Bob Dylan?

573
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: Because if you're right about that, you can ride about

574
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: the ones to Jackie Nimble Jack be quick obviously John

575
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Lennon John Jack huh Don McLean wrote by himself, Oh,

576
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: speaking of John Lennon, Imagine, I mean, I mean we

577
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: all know what this is about, right, go ahead, imagine

578
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: what the world would be like with without these certain things.

579
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: Most people think that it's a song about peace and

580
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: global unity. Kind of what are you kind of because

581
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: he's just kind of saying, like, imagine if we didn't

582
00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: have these people in power doing certain things religion, politics,

583
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: everything else, it's actually about WiFi dial up a O

584
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: L didn't even existence you got me. That's funny. It's

585
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: uh more so because it's a slower tone. People think

586
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: it's super peaceful. It's not. It's like a song about

587
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: revolutionary ideas of how to achieve peace but doing it

588
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: through radical ways. But he was smart enough to go, well,

589
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: if I slow it down introdud as a ballad, people

590
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: are gonna feel like I'm hugging the world more than

591
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: screaming at the while does he say that I'm I'm

592
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm not. Why did he not say it like that?

593
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: Because it's true? And then us we're all like the

594
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: slow song, So I like it's the song is actually

595
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: about the Communist manifesto. And now I'm reading earlier that

596
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: was just me musing myself. That's pretty good. Most people

597
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: think that ballads the ballad imagines about pople putting usie

598
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: their differences, but it's more political. According to Rolling Stone,

599
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: he once described the song as virtually the Communist manifesto.

600
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: And even though I'm not particularly a communist and do

601
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: not belong to any movement, the song clearly asked the

602
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: listener to imagine a world without religion or possessions, but

603
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: lin It admitted he intentioned admitted he intentionally trying to

604
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: sugarcoat his message with the song. The sweetness of the

605
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: song like sonically it's like, oh imagine, it's a big

606
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: hit almost everywhere in a beautiful song. Because it's anti religious,

607
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: anti nationalistic, anti conventional, anti capitalistic, and because it's well soften.

608
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: It's like honey, but this video is so good too.

609
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: The white piano and uh Sarah McLaughlan Angel. Yeah, it's

610
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: about puppies, spies. Hi, Hi, Sarah, And for the low

611
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: low prize of you can help Sparky. Yeah, I no

612
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: onally has one eye, but you can help that one eye.

613
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: And it always airs like three in the morning when

614
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: everyone's drunk, like all right, here's my wallet, this for you, Sparkie.

615
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Oh gral, what did I do last night? Adopted thirty dogs? Wait?

616
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: What's the Sparky's new eye? What the Sarah McLaughlin got

617
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: me again? Um the song most people think about angels

618
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: and losing someone, it's really about heroin addiction. Yeah, more

619
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: specifically the guy from Smashing Pumpkins who died. Really who

620
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: was that? The keyboartist he and I'll read a quote.

621
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: I went to a cottage north of Montreal to relax

622
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: and write. I read about the Smashing Pumpkins keyboard player

623
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: who had odd in a hotel room. She wrote this

624
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: about a song about the drug addict struggles with the world.

625
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: The angel symbolizes the drugs the addict gives into repeatedly

626
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: in the arms of an angel meaning the drugs, keep

627
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: On said. The story shook me because although I had

628
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: never done drugs like that, I felt a flood of

629
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: empathy for him and the feeling of being lost, lonely

630
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: and desperately searching for some kind of release, and that

631
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: release was drugs, or, as some people would have it,

632
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: their angel. Wow. Crazy, right, People use this one in

633
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: like funerals, right this sure? Maybe because angel is literally

634
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: it's taking the little interpretation I've never heard in a funeral,

635
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: but it would make sense. Wow, this is I mean

636
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: that changes this one. I mean that song is. This

637
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: song has always been beautiful to me, but it's always

638
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: been like, I don't know it's about pretty, but wow,

639
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean I'm reading it now and like, yeah, that's

640
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: pretty deep. Spend all your time waiting for that second chance,

641
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: for a break that would make it okay. There's always

642
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: some reason to feel not good enough, and it's hard

643
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. I need some distraction. Oh,

644
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: beautiful release memory seep from my veins. There's the hotel

645
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: room too, and maybe empty Oh would wait list and

646
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: maybe I'll find some peace tonight. Just a different feeling

647
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: about it when you know what you're talking about drug

648
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: addiction and drugs from this dark hole. You're right in

649
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: the chorus in the arms of an angel, fly away

650
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: from here, from this dark, cold hotel room and the

651
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: endlessness you fear. Wow, Oh, another super sad one. Do

652
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: you think that one's gonna get you? Sarah McLaughlin wrote

653
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: that one on your own too. Maybe they're just writing

654
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: one person, but surely um the next one, don't cry

655
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: Hansen and Bob. Now what's this one about? What do

656
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: you think it's about? I have no idea tune Bob

657
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: and now there's more in verses that I don't remember

658
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: what they say. Most people think it to catch you

659
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: pop song that really means nothing, not true. It's really

660
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: about how everything we love will be gone before we

661
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: know it. What does mbop have to do with that?

662
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: They made the word up and it really isn't just

663
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: made up word. They said bop represents a frame of mind,

664
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: and mbop there gone like mop, It's gone like who

665
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: was gone? Oh? Just like that? Yeah, okay, because Bob's

666
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: a word. The whole song is about the fact that

667
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: almost everything in your life will come and go quickly.

668
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: You've got to figure out what matters and grab onto

669
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: those things. Bore. They don't really love doing that song though, no,

670
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: and then they do. They do, but they don't like

671
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: everyone has respect for that one song that did it

672
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: for them, but it's man, it's gonna be hard when

673
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: that's the one you sing all the time. Well, they

674
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: played our million dollars show, and I like those guys,

675
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: and I know Tyler a bit Taylor Taylor. How well

676
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: I know Tyler Jim And I was thinking about having

677
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: my phone as um because I don't want to put

678
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: up with Taylor Hanson. You would to see it, Tyler Hanson,

679
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: Tyler Hans. It literally is so um. Taylor had come

680
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: and sat beside me and the seats of the rhyme

681
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, man, can we not do him, Bob,

682
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: We'd prefer to do this other song. And that's a

683
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: hard that's a hard question for you. And it just

684
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: comes right up to me and asked me. And I

685
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 1: respected that he asked me straight up. I just didn't

686
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: get on and not play it. But at the same time,

687
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: everybody came to see Bob that was coming to that show.

688
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: Is that what you told him? I was like, man,

689
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: you can play whatever. Else you want, but you gotta

690
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: play with Bob. Like that's it again, you don't gotta

691
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make you. But I can't sit here

692
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, go ahead, do whatever you want.

693
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,479
Speaker 1: Like everyone here wants you to play you in Bob.

694
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: So if I'm asking, please play h Bob. And they did,

695
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: and everybody freaking jerked their phones out quicker than I've

696
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: seen almost anybody pull their phones to any artist. So

697
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: but and it's also a super a kid. So I'm

698
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: sure they're adults and they have kids. They have probably

699
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: kids that are close enough they're in so we'll be

700
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: like writing a song when you're fourteen and having to

701
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: sing it when you're thirty and over. I remember when

702
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: they committed and you told me. They're like, oh, they're

703
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: gonna do the show, and I'm like, oh, great, so

704
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: we might have to learn M Bob. And I looked

705
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: over the oom Bob and I'm like, I'm never gonna

706
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: memorize that. Ever, you have a favorite hands song that

707
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: oom Bob? No no, No, I like, oh, there's another

708
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: one that I really like. It's about a girl. Maybe

709
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: that is a good one. Any was really good? Did

710
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: they do that on our show. Maybe I think they

711
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: did so good. Um, will you pull up the hands

712
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: and playlist Mike Penny and he's a jam. My favorite

713
00:41:48,120 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: is I will come to you. They're so good they are.

714
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: It's talented again where you play it from the beginning,

715
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 1: where you play m I will come them, I come

716
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: to you. It's to you. I will come to you.

717
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: I will come to you. When that you know this one.

718
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: This is deep, this is the hands and deep cut.

719
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: I will come No, no, not deep. You have not

720
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: to go and I come to you. Come come on

721
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: that jam read jump for me. I will come to you.

722
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: I will come to you. Damn all your dreams. Well

723
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: I believe that does it for today's show man. It's

724
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: funny how you said a lot of these stories came

725
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: out of like storytellers. They didn't bring storytellers back with

726
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: like Ariana Grande and be like, Ariana, what is them?

727
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: When you say you like my hair just bought it?

728
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: What do you mean by like? You know? Storytellers was

729
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 1: huge to us and we learned so much. And she'ld

730
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: be like, well, how was it don with thirteen people?

731
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: Actually I wasn't even there and we were just throwing

732
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: out words. Of course we made a melody. They gave

733
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: us the beat and we went do do do, and

734
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: then we had to fit words over and those twos

735
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: hav't to fit because I remember learning that like Pearl

736
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: jam Eddie Vetter wrote like Betterman or something fifteen years

737
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: before the band even got together. Oh yeah yeah, and

738
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: they were learned that from storytellers. Well, it's like kind

739
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: of Crows. When they were the himalay Is. I didn't

740
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: know that. Hey we look up that again. I could

741
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: miss this up there. His band was the Himalayas. Oh,

742
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: it could have been a different mountain range. It's been

743
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: O was it Everest? Let's see rid because the last

744
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to leave something up here. That's wrong.

745
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: But but some of those songs were even on that record,

746
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: the first record, The County Crows, Berkeley, California. First name

747
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: now type in um County Crows, um original band there

748
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: is there is the himalay Is. Round here was the

749
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: Himalays round here? No way American rock band between they're

750
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: best known for starting their career is that's the base.

751
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: This is the Himalayas doing round here. Wow, that's I mean,

752
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: that's a different sound for sure. Yeah, so again they

753
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: had written that song and cut it on there. We

754
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 1: can do it. We can do a whole Bobby cast

755
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: on this, on the bands that were before the band.

756
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: We just break down all of that Storytellers Live CD. Hey, um,

757
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: you know it would be fun at this point because

758
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: at Dirt used to be really famous at this point

759
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: because I think probably get on pretty easily. Yeah, this

760
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:13,919
Speaker 1: is it about the front door, lack of goodall professor notices.

761
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: So the melody is the same why you don't, which

762
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,959
Speaker 1: is never the same with that darker that ain't get

763
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 1: a better view of the crumbling also wrong and right

764
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: walk in ya, let's the right to bring myself and

765
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: back again less whiny, I don't know. Wow, good call, Yeah,

766
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: surius that she's dying through the door. It's a different debate, Yes,

767
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: why I don't know. That's just the baseline like litisk

768
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: like the lit biscuit based fine, God, this wouldn't admit

769
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: it make heavy electrate. You're right? Does sound like a

770
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: different fanto blue like those horns niskuts era that Yeah, alright, alright,

771
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: that you taught me. That's one Dad into that no

772
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: clue And that was a Ryan knew it. So stuff

773
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: just sits back here sometimes and I'll just go oh,

774
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: like my initial reactions to yell at out, it matches

775
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: a lot of like freaking Gordon sho way some way,

776
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: Mike look that up right. By the way, big shout

777
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: out to Mike d who produced this entire episode, all

778
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: the clips and tons of research. So thanks to him.

779
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: Is your family here? I have no idea. My phone's

780
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: over there, but it's raining, so they can't be at

781
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: the pool. I have no out check right now. They're

782
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: probably down watching TV. I'm started watching the show called

783
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: The Boys on Amazon. It's about it's a superhero show,

784
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: but it's like real life, meaning as real life as

785
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: you can be. It's like these people are superheroes, but

786
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: it's like the real problem have real like like addiction, um,

787
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: like sex stuff and they live on Earth. Yeah. Wow

788
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: that sounds good. It's really good. Like you're watching one season. Yeah,

789
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: it's eight episodes. And if you have this is not

790
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: a commercial by the way, No, I have Amazon. If

791
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: you have Amazon Prime and you order stuff, you get

792
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: all the shows too, which I didn't know for a

793
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: long time. I had to buy a second separate descriptions

794
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: like no way. But it also comes with a lot

795
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: of other stuff that you didn't know you had, like

796
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: TV stuff like golf tournaments. They're all on there for free,

797
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: for for my gambling. You know, if you like golf,

798
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: like basketball games that you normally wouldn't find, they're on there.

799
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go play racketball with Amy's husband.

800
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: The big debate was while I win, yes, you say yes,

801
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: I think you will because because he's good. He's a

802
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: bigger guy and I feel like he's stronger than you.

803
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: But racketball is about but he's a bigger guy and

804
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: not fat. He's no, no, no, he's pretty in shape though.

805
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: He flew us this week and he had a tucked

806
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: in shirt and he did he looks good. Yeah, he

807
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: looks good, but I don't. He doesn't write like like

808
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: you do the peloton bike like mccartio. But it's more

809
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: than just running. Yeah, it's fast, that's mostly what rack well,

810
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: it was back and forth. What do you know? You

811
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: gotta be able to hit it? Though he mostly Eddie's

812
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: given me his prognostication on rap I feel like I

813
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: could give you a good running back of the There

814
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: is no way, not like unless you've played those, and

815
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: it's not even my athletic prowess. It's playing the angles

816
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: off the walls all the time. I know, man, Okay,

817
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the game. Cool. Cool. I got ten

818
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: bucks on Bobby. Would you do ten bucks at four

819
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: to one odds meaning you would win ten dollars but

820
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: you would lose forty I would correct. But if you

821
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: bet on me, you can win a lot more than that,

822
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: but you would lose ten win for it. Thanks Mike

823
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,959
Speaker 1: appreciated that. Check out The Sore Losers That's Eddie lunch

824
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: Box and Raymundo's podcast. Check out Amy's podcast Four Things

825
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: with Amy Brown. Check out The Velvet's Edge with Kelly Henderson's,

826
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: a lifestyle podcast about fashion and just well being a

827
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: female and living your your best mid twenties and mid

828
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: thirties life. Um Also check out Caroline hobbies podcast called

829
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: Get Real, where she talks with a lot of the

830
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: wives of country music superstars and just really strong women

831
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: in the business. By the way, I don't know if

832
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: it's up yet, but Chris Daughtry's wife, uh so, she

833
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: had a girlfriend while her and Chris were together open.

834
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: Really they're married and she had a real life open relationship.

835
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: Talks about this on the fun Is it up yet?

836
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: It'll be up tomorrow, so you're by the time I

837
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: heard this will probably she gotta get real with Caroline

838
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Hobby and is that at miked about to bring on

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Speaker 1: another podcast. I'll tell who does off the year? But

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Speaker 1: somebody really funny? Really? Yeah, you were saying you have

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Speaker 1: a meeting with someone? We did. It was him and

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Speaker 1: his two managers who manager very cool. All right, all right,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys, and we'll see you next time here.

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Speaker 1: Anything you want to say? Oh man, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's fun. Who's your favorite band of all the bands?

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Speaker 1: Who's your favorite band that morphed into County Crows the

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Speaker 1: only one that's right? Am I missing anyone? And what

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Speaker 1: is the term form ambiguity? Can't tell? It could be

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Speaker 1: either ambiguity, Well that's so ambiguous if something's ambiguous, but

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Speaker 1: a form of that would be and begets ambiguity and ambiguity?

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Speaker 1: What is alphail name? Gordon Lightfoot go down? It's hardest?

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Speaker 1: All right? By everybody,