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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is Rob

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Speaker 1: Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick. And of course it's vault

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Speaker 1: time here on Weird House Cinema. This episode is about

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Speaker 1: the movie Demon Night. It originally aired February. You're in

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Speaker 1: for such a treat. You're gonna be dancing with Billy

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Speaker 1: Zane in your dreams. Welcome to Stuff to Blow your

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Speaker 1: Mind production of My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird

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Speaker 1: House Cinema. This is Rob and I'm Joe, and today

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Speaker 1: we are going to unscramble the cable signal and tune

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Speaker 1: into some Tales from the Crypt. That's right, Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have. We have another slice of nineties genre cinema

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Speaker 1: for you this week, except this one's far cheaper than

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Speaker 1: Free Jack Um, I think, ultimately a more enjoyable film.

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Speaker 1: But it is, of course, the the initial cinematic spinoff

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Speaker 1: of HBO's Tales from the Crypt. It is Tales from

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Speaker 1: the Crypt Demon Night. From what that sounds right? It

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Speaker 1: looks very mid nineties. Uh so, I guess this one

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Speaker 1: and last week's are a little bit more mainstream than

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Speaker 1: but Demon Knight is also one. I mean, Free Jack

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Speaker 1: is definitely a film that that did not perform to

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Speaker 1: died and was forgotten by many. Uh. Demon Knight is

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Speaker 1: a film that I think also is, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: is a really fun, r rated, frisky piece of horror comedy. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's essentially a siege movie. So the basic structure

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Speaker 1: movie itself. The Unholy Demon Lords have six of the

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Speaker 1: and the only thing standing in their way on planet

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Speaker 1: Earth for that last key is one immortal drifter and

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Speaker 1: a rag tag bunch of losers in a rundown hotel

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Speaker 1: a real place. It sounds nice and biblical, though, which

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Speaker 1: is good because there's a lot of biblical uh nonsense

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Speaker 1: Maybe not Thomas Hayden Church, He's not that meek, but

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Speaker 1: the Pharisees come to Jesus and they say, hey, you

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Speaker 1: crip keeper in there. You have a little. Pictures is

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Speaker 1: proud to present the motion picture directing debut of one

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Speaker 1: of America's most talented and respected artists. Oh hello, kiddies,

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Speaker 1: so glad you could join me, your pal, The Cryptie

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Speaker 1: first feature film, Care for a Little Shrink preview for

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Speaker 1: my big Scream premiere. I wanted lots of suspense, special effects, sex, violence.

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Speaker 1: It's the kind of thing you could really sink your

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Speaker 1: deep nights to browsing, yucky, thank you? All right? So yeah,

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Speaker 1: on Dickerson's film Juice, which started Tupac Shakur, and also

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Speaker 1: the exquisite film Surviving the Game. Do you remember this one, Joe,

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Speaker 1: the that's the takeaway from Dick Tracy. I agree, a

422
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: little bit more boiling acid version of The Godfather. All Right.

423
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: We said that there was an immortal drifter in this film,

424
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: and there is the character breaker played by the the

425
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: always actually excellent William Sadler. Oh Man, William Sadler, he's

426
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: got one of those faces, right, That's just he has

427
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: an inherently evil looking face, which makes me assume that

428
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: in reality he must be a nice guy, because I

429
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: recall there being a bit about this in the novel

430
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 1: Around the World in Eighty Days, which I haven't read

431
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: since I was a kid, but I remember there's a

432
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: part where a police detective is talking about how people

433
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: who have criminal looking faces have no choice but to

434
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: be honest, because you know, everybody looks at them and

435
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: suspects there are criminal. It's only people who look very

436
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: trustworthy who can really get away with great crime. Uh So,

437
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, but but yeah, Saddler, he

438
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: just has that face where he looks like a devil person.

439
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: And there are other people like this who just kind

440
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 1: of naturally look like a cartoon devil, like Malcolm McDowell

441
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: kind of looks like a cartoon devil. Uh. There there's

442
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: a prosperity Gospel TV preacher named Mike Murdoch who just

443
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: looks like a cartoon demon. Well Sadler, Yeah, he definitely

444
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: has that sort of face. Uh. He's played a fairly

445
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: fairly diverse amount of roles. Um, I don't know, he

446
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: does tend to sort of play you're rougher characters. He's

447
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: he's played villains of differing varieties. Like he's definitely played

448
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: the suit wearing villain, but he's also played the you know,

449
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: the sort of uh, you know, dirt kicker kind of

450
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: a villain as well. Um. For instance, he's he might

451
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: be best known for his role as the Seventh Seal

452
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: inspired death in the and Ted movie. Right, Yeah, the Reaper.

453
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: They melvin him and uh. And also, interestingly enough, his

454
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: rendition of that character shows up on Tales from the

455
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: Crypt at one point, uh in the crypt Keeper sequence

456
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: where he's like playing a game at chess with the

457
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: crypt Keeper or something. But he was in shoshankredyption, he

458
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: was in the second die Hard movie. Yeah, he's the guy.

459
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: He's like the nude martial arts colonel I remember he's

460
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: in the hotel room doing like naked yogur or something,

461
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: and then he I think at some point he like

462
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,239
Speaker 1: punches out a TV screen. Um. He he was on

463
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: Tales from the Crypt. He appeared in the UH in

464
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: what I believe was the pilot episode The Man Who

465
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 1: Was Death, and he also played the host of a

466
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: Tales from the Crypt spinoff, the title of the Two

467
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: Fisted Tales. This apparently wasn't picked up. They ended up

468
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: just using the three episodes. I think that they shot

469
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: using them as Tales from the Crypt episodes. But he

470
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: had this whole persona of Mr Rush, a crazy old

471
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: cowboy and a wheelchair, and if you look it up

472
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: on YouTube you can find clips of it. It's like

473
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: he's just completely over the top in the role as

474
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: one should be. Oh yeah, William Sadler is always like

475
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: a high tension cable, you know, He's like one of

476
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: those like steel cables that a tram car rides along. Yeah.

477
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, throughout his career he's played very serious characters

478
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: and he's played just real live wires. He seemed to

479
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: have a tremendous amount of range there, but you don't

480
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: see him. I guess playing in the hero as much,

481
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: but in this in this one, because he's got an

482
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: evil looking face. Yeah, but it works here because he's

483
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: supposed to be he's a I mean, he's a guy

484
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: on the very um you know, um Margins of of

485
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Law and Society. Yeah, alright. Some of the rest of

486
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: the cast here, cc H Pounder we already mentioned. She

487
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: plays a character Irene. She's a She's a talented actor,

488
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: probably best known for her role on the Shield. She

489
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: was an avatar, she was in RoboCop three and a

490
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: lot of TV work. I think she does one of

491
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: those big crime TV shows down, doesn't she like in

492
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: C I S or something. I think so. Yeah, she

493
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: that's the sort of show that she seemed to get

494
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: a lot of work on. Now. Another character actor in

495
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: this is uh somebody who recognize from previous episodes of

496
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: A Weird House, and that is Dick Miller, who plays

497
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: Uncle Willie. Yeah. Um, I would say this, whatever you

498
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: expect of a Dick Miller character, you will get it

499
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: from this film. He's not really playing against type or anything,

500
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: but it's a substantial role. And I found out on

501
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: the special features for this one. This was his first

502
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: time in his entire career, in which he wore prosthetic makeup.

503
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: I assume this is for the part where he turns

504
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: into a demon, not for his regular regular appearance, because

505
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: here he is, like you say, playing perfectly to type.

506
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: He is just a whiskey guzzlin drifter. And there's some

507
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: great drifter to drifter relations between him and William Sadler. Yeah, yeah,

508
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: they have, they have some good scenes. Um, apparently Dick,

509
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: like Dick Miller was, you know in all these old

510
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: older films, these Corman films and all. So apparently the

511
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: effects guys and Dickerson himself, they were just super were

512
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 1: thrilled to have Dick Miller on the picture because you know,

513
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: this is the guy who was in all those old

514
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: films that that they grew up watching. So, uh, that's

515
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: pretty You a vacuum salesman in a movie I saw

516
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Yeah, and you get taken

517
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: down to the furnace by by the Marlboro man. It's

518
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: like I've seen you die so many times, about one

519
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: more time. Um, let's see Thomas Haden Churches in this

520
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: plays a character named Roach. Um kind of Church is

521
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: kind of like a younger handsomer William Sadler in some ways.

522
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: Um yeah, in this movie. He so he plays this

523
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: swaggering creep, but with a swaggering creep with a luxurious

524
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: like Jethro tull roady hair. And he's also wearing a

525
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: Trent Resiner style see through T shirt. Yeah yeah, he's

526
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: he's absolutely hateable in this role and in all the

527
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: right ways, Like he really really makes you hate this character. Uh.

528
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: This was only his third film role though. Wow. Yeah,

529
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: he'd he'd go on to I mean he would, I

530
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: think he don't. He'd been on the show Wings and

531
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: that's what he was mainly known for. But he wouldn't

532
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: of course, being Sideways and Spider Man three. Now the movie,

533
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: of course, like any good horror movie, especially any good

534
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: horror movie from the nineties, has its share of useless cops.

535
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: And we have two useless cops in this one, one

536
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: of which dies pretty soon. The other is the deputy

537
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: deputy Bob Martel that that survives very long into the film.

538
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: And this is this is played by character actor Gary Farmer.

539
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: And here is your absolutely solid overdrawn at the Memory

540
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: Bank connection. Because he was in overdrawn in the Memory Bank. Really,

541
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, that of course

542
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: was American Playhouse. Um rendition of Overdrawn at the Memory

543
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: Bank that starred Rawle Julia and he just has a small,

544
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: ultimately kind of awkward role in it. Um. But he

545
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: went on to be in a ton more more stuff.

546
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: So he was born in fifty three. Uh, he's a

547
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: Canadian First Nations actor and um, let's see something like.

548
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: For instance, he went on to be in dead Man

549
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: the Western with Jarmusch movie yea yeah, and then also

550
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: in his film Ghost Dog Way of the Samurai. He

551
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: actually plays the same character in those two films. He

552
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: plays his character named Nobody. Okay. Yeah, And he was

553
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: also apparently under consideration for the role of Dr Gonzo

554
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, but but I

555
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: didn't come together for some reason. Oh. That ultimately went

556
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: to um, what's his name, Benicio del Toro, Yes, Benicio

557
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: del Toro. Yes, Um, you know what. Actually, I should

558
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: go back on what I said earlier, because I I

559
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: said that this movie has useless cops and it is

560
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: a very reliable trope of horror movies, especially like horror

561
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 1: movies of the nineties. But it's it's pretty much always

562
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: there that you can just count on cops to not

563
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: be useful in them, you know, like you run up.

564
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: You never have the scene where you run up to

565
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: a cop and say, uh, there's a monster chasing us

566
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: and they whip out their gun and say where get

567
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: behind me? No, No, it's always like a calm out

568
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: and missy and then there's just like a claw sticking

569
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: through their face or something. Um. But in this movie, uh,

570
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: Gary Farmer's deputy Bob. He actually he becomes more useful

571
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: as the movie goes on, and then it's actually kind

572
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: of heroic by the end. Yeah. Yeah, even even though

573
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: he you know, as as a character actor, he has

574
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: this kind of like bumbling quality to him, you know

575
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: that plays well to comedy, and he does some good

576
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: comedy in this. But yeah, he also they do more

577
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: with the character than just have him fumble a gun

578
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: and get killed by a monster. All right. Another interesting

579
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: character we have in this is Charles Fleischer, who plays

580
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: his character Wally. Um. I think this is a character.

581
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: A lot of you may not not recognize his name,

582
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: some of you may not even recognize a picture of him,

583
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: but you would recognize his voice, at least one voice

584
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: that he does because he was the voice of Roger Rabbit. Wow.

585
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: And uh, outside of that, he often plays weirdos. He

586
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: has a real kind of like weirdo look to him.

587
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: You know, he plays that kind of character. Well, uh,

588
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't disappoint in this film. He plays another weirdo.

589
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: He plays a very awkward guy in this movie. But

590
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: but he's he's I've seen even a number of things.

591
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: He had a fun role recurring role on Jonathan Ames

592
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: TV series Blunt Talk. So he's always a treat when

593
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: he shows up. But it doesn't seem he didn't show

594
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: up a lot and things I watched. Now we know

595
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: that Ernest Dickerson was himself cinematographer on on a bunch

596
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: of other movies. So he's directing here. Who does the

597
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: cinematography one Rick Boda or Bota b O t a

598
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: um who went on to direct not one, not two,

599
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: but three direct to video Hell Raisor sequels Right in

600
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: a Row, Health Seeker, Debtor, and Hell World. I believe

601
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna be your numbers six, seven, and eight in

602
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: the Hell Raizor series. I would say that is not

603
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: a high point of the series. Um, but it's weird

604
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: because so those are not very good Hell Razor movies.

605
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: But I like his cinematography style in the movie. It's nothing, um,

606
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's nothing all that artistic, but it's very fluid.

607
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: I mean like it's good in the sense that it's

608
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: the kind of good filmmaking that you don't you're not

609
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: thinking about technique. Yeah. Yeah, And it has some some

610
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: nice use of gels in places that they kind of

611
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: give it that tales from the crypt vibe without like

612
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: overdoing it. Um, Like you see a similar thing done

613
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: in uh what was Stephen king um creep Show, where

614
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: there was also a homage to horror comics of old

615
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 1: But there are scenes in that where they they just

616
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: go crazy with the gels to create these kind of

617
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: comic book colors, and there's a little of it in here,

618
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: but it feels a lot a lot more restrained. So

619
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: Hell World is the Evil Dead or not Evil Dead

620
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: the the I've totally forgotten what it's called Hell Razor.

621
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: Hell Hell World is the Hell Raisor movie where the

622
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: tagline is evil goes online. Oh man, it's the one

623
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: where they go to So I think it's supposed to

624
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: be that the pinhead is in a computer or something,

625
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: but then nobody ever really goes online in the movie.

626
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: I was talking to my friend Chuck about this not

627
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: too long. He pointed out that it's really a very

628
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: offline movie. It's about a party people. People go to

629
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: a big party at somebody's house and Pinhead starts killing him.

630
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: Oh wow, well, yeah, I never saw any of those,

631
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: those these three hell Raiser films in particular, but they

632
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: all had Doug Bradley and then at least a little bit,

633
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: so they have that going for him. I guess Hell

634
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: World also has Lance Hendrickson. Oh yeah, yeah, Oh, I

635
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: think I read about that where they were able they

636
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: were able to get him for the role because he

637
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: happened to be in I want to say, these were

638
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: filmed in Romania, and he was in Romania already film

639
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: filming some other role and they're like, hey, we can

640
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: get Lance Henderson. He's got another day or two on

641
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: his hotel room. And they did it perfect serendipity. Yeah. Uh. Now,

642
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: wen we mentioned that the cinematography of the movie is

643
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: quite effective. It's uh, it's nothing too flashy, but it's

644
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: fun and it's loose and it's very fluid and uh

645
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: and you're you're just right in there in the action.

646
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: I would say the same thing for the makeup effects

647
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: in the movie, which are quite good. Yeah. Yeah, the

648
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: the makeup and the monsters in this are great. And

649
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: we have the Todd Masters Company to think for this.

650
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: They did all the special makeup on the picture. They

651
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: did the monsters, and Masters was ideal for this because

652
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: he was a Tales from the Crypt veteran already at

653
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: that point, and he's he's done a lot of film

654
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: and TV work, uh, and he did a great job

655
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: on the monsters in this film as well, from like

656
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: a uh just from like a conceptual standpoint, because apparently

657
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: in the early stages the monsters were going to be

658
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: more zombie like or just kind of like possessed people,

659
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: and he ended up pushing for a different design, a

660
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: design that ultimately I think ended up being cheaper, which

661
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: the studio liked. But it but it leaned heavily on

662
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: body paint and lean actors uh in stilts with just

663
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: prosthetic heads and uh some interesting like growing and tail

664
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: features that will get to uh here in a bit.

665
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: The monsters are terrific. But Masters has been involved in

666
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: a number of different films that have great practical special

667
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: effects like Necronomicon, Book of the Dead, Uh, Hell Raiser, Bludline,

668
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: The Resurrected. The Resurrected is the the good Lovecraft movie

669
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: that I was trying to remember in a previous episode. Um,

670
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: he was in the fifth Nightmare on Elm Street movie.

671
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: He was in Return of not In. He did the

672
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: effects for the Return of Swamp Things, Slither Star Trek,

673
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: First Contact. He did the borg stuff in that with

674
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: the you know, the Borg queen. Uh, he was responsible

675
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: for that. And apparently he's going to direct a movie

676
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: according to IMDb, about giant leeches. So bringing the giant

677
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: leeches back. I think they've been absent from cinema for

678
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: what since the fifties or something. I'll bring them on.

679
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with everything you said. I really

680
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: love the monster design in this movie. It's simple. They

681
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: look great. They've got green, glowing eyes and mouths. It's excellent.

682
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's jump into the film itself. Let's

683
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: let's roll through the plot. Well, so, first of all,

684
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: you have a class tails from the Crypt opening, which

685
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: is you know, your Dolly shot through the cobwebby mansion,

686
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: and then you go down a secret passageway into the

687
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: dungeon and it looks like it's the layer of Dr

688
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: faust Us. And then the crypt Keeper he pops up

689
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: out of the coffin and cackles at you. And as

690
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: I said before, all the sound effects here, it's the

691
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: Tales from the Crypto music is playing, and then you

692
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: get there, hey crypt keeper laugh. That is that is

693
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: such a powerful auditory queue to nineties childhood mindset. I

694
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: showed that just the opening to my son to see

695
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: how he would dig it, and he did not dig it.

696
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: He found it. He found it. They found it frightening,

697
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: and he did not want any part of it. That's

698
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: probably all for the best. This movie is not for kids.

699
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not to say he was traumatized by it

700
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: or anything, but I was like, you want to check

701
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: this out for Halloween and he's like, okay, sure, and

702
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: then he saw it and he's like, no, thank you. Now.

703
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if we even mentioned this before, but

704
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: the movie starts with an opening segment that is not

705
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: connected to the rest of the plot. I guess we

706
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: did mention that the were brackets, but it starts you

707
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: off in media rez with with stuff going on with

708
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: other characters you like paying up And uh, it's on

709
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: the scene of a woman reclining in lingerie talking on

710
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: the phone about how she has just murdered her husband,

711
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: like his bloody clothes are still all over the place,

712
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: and he's and we see he's downstairs dissolving in a

713
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: tub of acid in the basement, and she's talking to

714
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: her lover on the phone about how much they're going

715
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: to enjoy spending all of the dead guy's money. And uh, then,

716
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 1: of course, pretty much immediately the tub corpse wakes up,

717
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: and then it climbs the stairs and it has a

718
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: hatchet in its hand and it charges in on her

719
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: in a psycho style scene where she's in the bathtub

720
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: and he's like ah, And then we get a cut, cut, cut,

721
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: and it turns out it's a movie within a movie.

722
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: The corpseman is being played by John Laraquette, which is

723
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: just excellent. Wait did we already talk about John Laraquette.

724
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: We didn't, but of course he's He's most famous, or

725
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: at least for older TV viewers, for being the lawyer

726
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: What was the name of Felding on Night Court? I

727
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: never saw Night Court hand Fielding I'm sorry. Yeah, he

728
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: also plays a lawyer at some point on the West Wing. Yeah,

729
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: he played a lot of characters like that. But for

730
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: horror fans, he of course with the narrator on the

731
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: original Texas Chainsaw Masker, that opening scroll that sets the

732
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: tone for the film, and he did that at least

733
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: in the follow up in Texas Chansaw Masker too. I'm

734
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: not sure if if he did any of the sequels

735
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: beyond that. I think he did, but most notably that

736
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: first one though, really the first thing you hear in

737
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: that that picture, he's good at playing a kind of

738
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: like a thundering, conceited, pompous wind bag exactly. Yeah, that's

739
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: that's That's everything that he played to a t. But

740
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: in this movie, it's funny because he's just got this

741
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: bit part where he plays an actor playing a tub

742
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: corpse who's about to hatch it his his scheming ex

743
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: wife to death. And then but it turns out it's

744
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: a movie within a movie, and then we pan up

745
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: on the crypt keeper who's sitting in the director's chair,

746
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: so imagine Jeremy Bentham's preserved remains and start he starts

747
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: screaming at John Laraquette about how he can't act at all.

748
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: He's like, you're no Gory Cooper, You're not even a

749
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: Robert Deadford. And it was an ambitious bit of special

750
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: effects here, because they clearly had a live actor doing

751
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: some sort of like green screen head and then they

752
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: put the puppeteered crypt Keeper head over that in post

753
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: so it looks and it looks maybe a tiny bit rough.

754
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: You can tell there's some some ambitious special effects going

755
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: on here, but it's still amusing, which makes sense. You know,

756
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: this is Tales from the Crypt the movie. You should

757
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: go for it right, right, And it's great because so

758
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: this opening film within a film thing is is perfect.

759
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: It is a Tales from the Crypt episode. You know,

760
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: it's a ceed tale in which a bad person gets

761
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: what's coming to them. But so then of course we

762
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: get the crypt Keeper introducing the main story. He's you know,

763
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what he says, but he makes

764
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of puns and then he's like, I call

765
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: this one demon night, and then we cut to the

766
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: opening credits over a car cruising on a dark desert

767
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: highway with the most perfect nine soundtrack choice. That's right,

768
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: it's filters hey Man Nice Shot, which is also in

769
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: the trailer, I think, which I think, this is just mandatory.

770
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: This was just us law that if you had a

771
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: film that came out in you had to use hey

772
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: Man Nice Shot. Yeah, I was. It was hard to

773
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: contain the laughter while that was going on. And then

774
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: of course we see William Sadler driving uh and he's

775
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: you know, looking over his shoulder as if pursued by

776
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: the hounds of hell. But no, it's even worse. It's

777
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: Billy Zane and a cowboy hat. And it's very funny

778
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: when it first reveals Billy Zane smirking face in the

779
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: in the car that's chasing William Sadler, And so William

780
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: Sadler starts to run out of gas on this desert

781
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: highway and there is a highway showdown slash shootout, like

782
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: Billy Zane's riding up on him, and William Sadler gets

783
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: out a rifle it's like a lever action rifle, and

784
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: start shooting at Billy Zane's car. Eventually, the car catches

785
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: on fire, but Billy Zane, undeterred, just rams straight into

786
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: Saddler's car. Sadler gets out of it. At the last second,

787
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: and there's this huge fiery ramming explosion. So William Sadler

788
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: escapes the flaming wreckage. And I guess we're supposed to assume,

789
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: as as the naive audience, that Billy Zane has been

790
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: killed in the explosion, I guess, But why would we

791
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: actually believe that? I mean, would it make sense for

792
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: Billy Zane to be killed? And it doesn't, does it.

793
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: But William Sadler he looks at his palm and he

794
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: sees a bunch of dots. I think they're a little

795
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: like star tattoos on his palm, and some of them

796
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: are glowing and others are not. And then he just

797
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: sort of ambles on through the night. He's got he's

798
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: got drifter energy, he's got places to be. Apocalypse is

799
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: too for event, right, and so he he ambles on

800
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: into Wormwood, New Mexico, again not a real place, and

801
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: and goes up to a diner called the Halfway House

802
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: Cafe and immediately starts trying to jack cars, Like he

803
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: gets out of a butterfly knife and is sticking it

804
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: in the key hole of a car outside in the

805
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: parking lot, and a kid comes out and He's like, Hey,

806
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: are you stealing my daddy's car, And he's like, no,

807
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm just testing the lock. Wormwood, New Mexico seems like

808
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: a very interesting place because not only do they have drifters,

809
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: it seems to be exclusively populated by drifters, Like I

810
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: want to meet other drifters that make up this town,

811
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: like Mayor Drifter and the rest of the post office,

812
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: like everybody is kind of like a a suspect drifter

813
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: type character. It's a drifter community. The like the characters

814
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: in the town who are not drifters, they're written in

815
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: such a way that they're like one decision away from

816
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: being a drifter. Yeah. I mean we all are, really,

817
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: but but especially these characters. So anyway, a bunch of

818
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: people run out of the diner. I think one of

819
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: the people who runs out as Thomas Hayden Church. But

820
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: a bunch of people run out and then they run

821
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: William Sadler off, So he's chased off into the night

822
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: where he is into Dick Miller as an old drunk,

823
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: and they share some whiskey and commiserate for a bit,

824
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: and then Dick Miller tells him that, Hey, I know

825
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: a place where you can bed down for the night,

826
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: and so they're funneling him towards this old church. You

827
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: can immediately tell the sort of plot mechanics that are

828
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: happening here. We're saving all of the characters into this

829
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: one fortress location. Now, fun fact about this location, Uh,

830
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: it looks really great, loose phenomenal. But when they went

831
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: to to put the film together, Dickerson particularly did not

832
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: want to film at night and have like really long

833
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: nights of shoots for the casting crew. So that was

834
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that instead they got an airplane

835
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: hangar and in it they built that building and the

836
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: immediate surroundings like in its entirety so that they could

837
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: just film during the day at their leisure and have

838
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: complete control over the lighting. But there was one issue

839
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: pigeons had were we're already living in there in the

840
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: airplane hangar, and you know how pigeons are They they're

841
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: constantly making noise and making these pigeon noises. So they

842
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: couldn't get rid of the pigeons. But what they ended

843
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: up doing is every time before they would roll the

844
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: roll the camera, before they you know, say action, they

845
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: would fire off blank. They would fire off a gun

846
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: in order to frighten the pigeons and get them to

847
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: shut up, so they could they could have this window

848
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: of time in which they could film before the pigeons

849
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: started their ruckets. Again. Oh, that's funny. Somehow I feel

850
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: like I could kind of sense that it was that

851
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: it was indoor for outdoor, even though that's a fast expanse,

852
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: like you can't see the walls of the airplane hanger

853
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: or anything. But um, that's good. And I think I've

854
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: said this on the show before. I for some reason

855
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: always really enjoy a good indoor for outdoor set. Well.

856
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: It can make a very surreal environment, you know. And

857
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: it makes sense for this film because the only exteriors

858
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: we have are this loathsome former church in the middle

859
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: of a desert at the end of the world, and

860
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: then one flashback to the Crucifixion. So yeah, so it

861
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: makes sense that that we have this alien environment created

862
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: by shooting everything inside of an airplane hare exactly. But so,

863
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: what what is this church? Dick Miller explains to us

864
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: that it it's a church that isn't a church anymore.

865
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: He says they decommissioned it in the fifties due to

866
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: lack of interest. That's that's the official terminology on the

867
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: decommissioning form, right, Yeah, it was like interest on who's

868
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: part like on the Preacher there, or I think it's

869
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: the town. It's just you know, it's just a bunch

870
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: of drifters, just like I'm not interested in that reverend.

871
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: But so yeah, it turns into it turns out to

872
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: be this boarding house. It's like a desert hotel sort of,

873
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: and it's it's like we said, it's like the evil

874
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: Dead cabin for the movie the Fortress of Order that

875
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: will collect the characters and then fall under attack. It's

876
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: the supernatural alumo. Oh and then meanwhile we also see

877
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: that Billy Zane is hooking up with police, Like the

878
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: police are investigating the crash on the on the highway.

879
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: The cars are on fire. They're like, nobody could have

880
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: survived that. Those cars hit each other going a hundred

881
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: miles per hour, which we saw that opening scene they

882
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: were not going a hundred miles an hour, but whatever.

883
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: Um so. But then Billy Zane just sort of like

884
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: walks out from behind the flaming car and he's like, hey,

885
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: what's up, And they're all like, oh, I didn't think

886
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: you could have survived that. But so he explains to

887
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: them that he was chasing a man who stole something,

888
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 1: and so they're like, well, we'll help you find him,

889
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 1: and so Zane therefore enlists the police on his team. Initially, yeah,

890
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: he's just so ding dang charming, they just can't say no. Yeah. Now,

891
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: I have to say that the film does a great

892
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: job setting all this up there and there's no wasted

893
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: motion really and getting us from here into our siege

894
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: location and beginning to establish the rules for everything. Um.

895
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: And then the characters are mostly there to fulfill basic

896
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: tropes in the story, you know again, like the bumbling cop, etcetera. Um,

897
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: But that you know that, I feel like it comes

898
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: together rather rather well and also ultimately surprises you with

899
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: a few choices in terms of like who survives and

900
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: who doesn't. Yeah, totally alright, we got everybody more or

901
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: less bottled up inside this this old building. Who are characters? Okay,

902
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna remember all of them, but so the

903
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: main ones, I guess. You've got William Sadler as as

904
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: this guy who will find out his named breaker. He's

905
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: the drifter. You've got Jada Pinkett playing Jerlyne, who is uh,

906
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: she is somebody who I think formerly was in prison

907
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: and now she's working for the boarding house on work release. Um.

908
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: Then you've got cc H Pounder who is playing Irene,

909
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: who is the owner proprietor of the boarding house. You've

910
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: got Cordelia who is a prostitute. You've got Wally who

911
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: is a male carrier. You've got Thomas Hayden Church. I

912
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: don't remember his character's name, but he's the creep. He's

913
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: the he's roach roach right. Yeah, he's like the cook

914
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: at the diner who is just a a nasty backstab

915
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: and woman Hayte and Creep, and then a few others. Well,

916
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: you got uncle Wally in there. Oh do we not

917
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: already talked about uncle We talked about uncle Uncle Willie.

918
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: That's that's that's stick Miller. Yeah. And then uh, and

919
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: then we'll have the police and then oh and there's

920
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: a kid who shows up later, I think, but that

921
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: that's basically it. That's it, Okay. I thought I may

922
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: have forgotten somebody. There's a great scene when we're sort

923
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: of just getting to know all the characters. There's a

924
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: scene of Breaker eating this food on the table. It's

925
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: just bright green slop. It looks like the slime that

926
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: they used to have on Nickelodeon. Uh, it was just

927
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: bright green liquid that he's eating with a spoon and

928
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: he slathers it and catch up. Yeah, but he's happy

929
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: to get it. He's just he's clearly Yeah. And then

930
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: eventually the police arrived with Billy Zane in response to

931
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: a report of an attempted car theft. I think that

932
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: was William Sadler trying to jack the car with his

933
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: knife earlier. And as soon as Billy Zane arrives and

934
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: sees William sad Lear in the sporting house, it is

935
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: just like this, like the you know, the lights go

936
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: off and he's sicking the cops on him. They've got

937
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: they've got William Sadler and cuffs, and Zane is looking

938
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: for what Breaker stole, which is an antiquity of some kind. Yeah,

939
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be our our main plot element here.

940
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: They we're get to do in a bit. This is

941
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: the key. This is the thing that the demons want

942
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: and that the mortals in the universe absolutely cannot let

943
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: fall into their hands. Right, And then Dick Miller sells

944
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: him out. I felt betrayed. They've got him in the cuffs.

945
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: They're They're like, where is the thing? They've been looking

946
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: around for it. I think they come across Thomas Hayden

947
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: Church and in the middle of some kind of sex

948
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: act that involves him getting hooked up to a car battery.

949
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he has a great line, didn't He's like,

950
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: manipples are burning. Yeah, I think he says they're smoking, smoking.

951
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: Man nipples are smoking. Yeah, it's good. I hope it's

952
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: in his reel. Oh, it's got to be. But yeah.

953
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: Eventually they they've looked all over for this thing. They

954
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: can't find it. Then Dick Miller sells him out. He

955
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: sells out Breaker. He's like, hey, actually, the artifact is

956
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: just here under the table where everybody's standing, um, and

957
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: it's some kind of key, but it's also like a

958
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: bottle filled with some liquid, and Billy Zane won't touch it.

959
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: It's clear something very significant is going on. What he

960
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: wants is for Dick Miller to pour out its contents

961
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: and then put it into a suitcase for him, and

962
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: Breaker tells him not to do it, and they argue

963
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: back and forth, and eventually the cops are like, Ah,

964
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: to hell with it. Both of the cars from this

965
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: car crash were stolen. You're both going to jail and

966
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out later. So they try to take

967
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: Sadler and Zane off to jail. But then Zane, I

968
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: think the switch flips and he comes off the leash

969
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: with an excellent punch right through the sheriff's head. Through

970
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: the Sheriff's said Ricky Oh style, Yeah, except unlike Ricky Oh,

971
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: he's got this wonderful awkwardness of the head being stuck

972
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: on his fest on his arm, so it's like having

973
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: to try and get that off of his hand. It's

974
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: pretty great, yeah, And then all hell breaks loose. Uh,

975
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: Billy fights to get the key, breaker burns him with it,

976
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: so it's like a vampire with a crucifix, you know.

977
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: If you touch the key to his face, it seems

978
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: to burn him. And then Billy Saying flies out the

979
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: window and then stands there while everybody watches him, and

980
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: he pierces his palm with a fingernail, bleeds a bunch

981
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: of green blood all over the place, and the drops

982
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: of his green blood on the earth make an army

983
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: of demons to attack the house. He throws a nice

984
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: hissy fit first though there's a there's a great but yeah,

985
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: then he starts summoning in the monsters, and man, if

986
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: you if you weren't already on board with this, once

987
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: the monsters pop out in this film, you're really good

988
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: to go, because these are some great monsters. Again, these

989
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: are like they're They're unlike most monsters I've seen in

990
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: other films. They're like these ghastly gaunt grave walker types

991
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: but with also with the with the glowing green eyes

992
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: that we mentioned, but also like piercings in places, but

993
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: but not in like a punk sense, and it's like

994
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: a seemly like antique sense, like their creatures of another

995
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: time even you know, so they have I feel like

996
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: they play against expectations in the of the typical demon

997
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 1: and zombie trope, like like the jewelry you might find

998
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: in like an ancient grave or something, you know, like

999
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: ancient Egypt or something who or something. Yeah, they have

1000
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: kind of a gin quality to them, and they have

1001
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: a great silhouette to them. You know. It's kind of

1002
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: like when you think of um like having a good logo,

1003
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: they say, well, it has to be able to work

1004
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: in black and white, or you think of like a

1005
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: iconic characters like Darth Vader, you can recognize him by

1006
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: his silhouette, and these monsters cut a really signature silhouette,

1007
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: which is key because they're often just should you see

1008
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: some great close ups of them, but they're often just

1009
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: in the background, in the in the shadows, kind of

1010
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: creeping about and all. Yeah, and that's that's great also

1011
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: because they provide a sort of textural setting that really

1012
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: allows Billy Zane to shine because Billy Zane is the

1013
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: front man doing his uh, doing his his funny stick.

1014
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: He's like a you know, a burless comedian or something,

1015
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: and then he's got the green eyed goblins all slinking

1016
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: around behind him to back him up there his chorus line. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh.

1017
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: Now on the feature, at one cool thing they mentioned,

1018
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: I mentioned how like basically these are these these outfits

1019
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: depend heavily on just body painting, like slender actors. Um,

1020
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of like skin involved, and they're stilts.

1021
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: But then they have an awesome prosthetic head that looks

1022
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: kind of like a you know, demonic pickled pig or something. Uh,

1023
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: and then they then they have this uh, they're they're

1024
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: growing in there. They're they're they're that that area is

1025
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: covered up, and they have these tails, uh, these like

1026
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: stunted tails that wag and apparently those were radio controlled

1027
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: and the actors had to stow the battery like high

1028
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: up between their legs. So it was quite a demanding

1029
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: role of you know, still battery between your leg big

1030
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: piece of prosthetics over your head. But the end result

1031
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: looks tremendous. I totally agree. So so once these monsters

1032
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: are in play and Billy Zanes outside trying to cause trouble,

1033
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 1: we've got scenes of William Sadler running around the house

1034
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: trying to seal up the openings, like seal up the

1035
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: doors and windows with blood from this key. And then

1036
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: we get flashbacks of the Crucifixion of Jesus involving green

1037
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: eyed demons and lightning strikes. Yeah. Yeah, And again they

1038
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: have a has an excellent otherworldly feel to it, like

1039
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: this could be the Crucifixion on an alien world, which

1040
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: especially since it seems a bit different, because I mean,

1041
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: some of you, m you've ever went to Sunday School,

1042
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: and you know, you ever read your Bible, you probably

1043
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: don't remember the hooded demons that are showing up and

1044
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: chasing people around at the foot of the cross. But

1045
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: it happens here. History is written by the victors, you know.

1046
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: The demons lost that struggle, so they got written out

1047
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: of the story. This is funny because it made me

1048
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: think about what is the best gold Gotha scene ever

1049
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: in a horror movie? And another one that occurred to

1050
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: me is Layer of the White Worm by Ken Russell,

1051
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: which is an awesomely weird movie that we may have

1052
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: to cover on here someday. Oh yeah, yeah, that one

1053
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: has a good one. I feel like maybe there's at

1054
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: least one other Kin Russell film that has a crucifixion

1055
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: scene in it doesn't show up in US, well maybe

1056
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: in The Devil's but also in the Altered States. Oh,

1057
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: the one where William Hurd is sort of playing our

1058
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: Gordon Wasson or or maybe he's playing what's his name, Uh,

1059
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: the guy you did an episode about, Oh, John C. Lily. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1060
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: I think that one has a weird crucifixion in it.

1061
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: There's also an excellent otherworldly crucifixion scene in uh The

1062
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: Ninth Configuration, the film directed by William Peter Bladdie, and

1063
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: written by him based on one of his novels. Yeah,

1064
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 1: it's that one. That's a weird film we could discuss,

1065
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: and it's got some great performances in it. So after

1066
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: this part where the demons are set loose, the rest

1067
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: of the movie, Uh, you could say it becomes less structured,

1068
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: I guess, because it's just sort of like a you know,

1069
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: you get different sort of vignettes within the supernatural demon siege,

1070
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: Like you get uh, Billy Zane issuing hallucinatory temptations to

1071
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: various characters in the boarding house. Uh. And then often

1072
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: this temptation scene will be followed by demon possession of

1073
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: the person, and then there will be attacks by monsters,

1074
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: humans attempting to escape, and and so forth. Uh. And

1075
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: more flashbacks about the backstory of the key. We we

1076
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: we get to see Breaker in World War One. It

1077
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: seems looking exactly the same age he's in the trenches.

1078
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: A buddy of his gets killed somehow and is bleeding

1079
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: all over the place, and the guy's like, now you

1080
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: are the chosen one, and and the I guess the

1081
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: the memory of the Crucifixion of Jesus gets like downloaded

1082
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: into William Sadler's brain. Yeah, and he's now part of

1083
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: this lineage of immortals that have to protect the key

1084
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: and carry it through time. Right, And eventually Breaker has

1085
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: to exp playing this to all the other characters and

1086
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: they're like, wow, that's interesting. You're the chosen one across

1087
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: time and you've been alive since World War One. And

1088
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: Thomas Hayden Church, who I just realized earlier his his

1089
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: initials are THHC. But anyway, he comes up. So he's

1090
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: been a jerk the entire time so far. He's been,

1091
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, acting cowardly and cruel to others. And after

1092
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: this story he comes up to a Breaker and he's like, wow,

1093
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: I really admire what you did. I was wrong about you. Uh.

1094
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: But then, of course, what he's really trying to do

1095
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: is get Breaker to let his guard down so he

1096
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: can double cross him, and he swipes the key from him. Yeah,

1097
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: now he swiped the key. Meanwhile, the temptations continue because

1098
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: even though Billy Zane and his demon minions are stuck

1099
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: outside for the most part, uh, he can reach out

1100
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: to your mind and tempt you, uh last temptation of

1101
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: Christ style with something you want. And some of the

1102
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: these make for some nice fun little sequences. For instance,

1103
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: when he's tempting Jada pink Its character, um it's it's

1104
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: the this is the sequence where it's like in um

1105
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: it feels like it's in a parking garage and there's

1106
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: this weird scene of of her face on a screen

1107
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: and they're like demon hands on the other side pressing

1108
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: against it. And then when that rips open, she's she

1109
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: sees this image of breakers breaker like being torn apart

1110
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: by the creatures of them eating his entrails. Yeah, well

1111
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: he's I think Billy stands tempting her with the idea

1112
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: that she that he could make her like rich and

1113
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: famous world. Yeah, she'll see the world. Oh, it's like

1114
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: it's like the vivid you know what's they'll like to

1115
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: see the world. And it seems jay to Pinkett really

1116
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: would like to see the world. Like she's interested in

1117
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: this temptation, though she doesn't fall for it. She's got

1118
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: the heroic constitution, uh to to resist the temptation. I'm

1119
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: not sure what what would that What would that saving

1120
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: throw be in d N D well, I guess that

1121
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: would be they'd be like a wisdom saving throw. Okay,

1122
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: so maybe a charisma I don't know, depends how you played.

1123
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: Probably wisdom. She succeeds on the wisdom saving throw. She

1124
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: resists the temptation. But what he's tempting her with is like,

1125
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: it's not exactly clear, but it seems to suggest like, Yeah,

1126
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: you could have your face on the cover of magazines

1127
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: and you could travel to all the capitals of the

1128
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: world and see Rome and everything. Wouldn't you like that? Oh?

1129
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: And the whole time, the Grave digg Is track Suicide

1130
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: is playing, which is a just a great beat in

1131
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: the background. Yeah, that's an awesome song. I don't does

1132
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: it ever get to the part with lyrics? I don't.

1133
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they use that much of it. Yeah,

1134
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: they just use the intro. You gotta be looking for

1135
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: it to notice it. But yeah, that is a great beat.

1136
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: It does not get to the part about confront an

1137
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: alligator let it eat your raw. Oh man. But there

1138
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: are other temptations scenes as well, right, oh, yeah, there's

1139
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of them. There's the temptation of Dick Miller

1140
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: is great because his is quite different. His is a

1141
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: world of beautiful naked women offering him bottles of scotch,

1142
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: and then he's just sort of like wanders through this

1143
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: this crowd of ladies being like, try mine, and holds

1144
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: up but they're all holding identical bottles of Scotch, I think.

1145
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: And then he goes up maybe maybe Dick Miller just

1146
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: dedicated to one brand. I couldn't tell what brand it was.

1147
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: They've got the labels turned away. Um. But then he

1148
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: he goes up to a bar, and then it turns

1149
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: out Billy Zane is the bartender in this temptation dream

1150
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: and he so he's a friendly bartender who offers him booze.

1151
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: But I think is also supposed to be Hunter S. Thompson.

1152
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: Was I mistaken here? No? I think you're right. It's

1153
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: very very much a Hunter S Thompson. Look he has

1154
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: going on behind the bar there. Yeah, and again it's

1155
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: it's it is Billy Zane is an evil um genie

1156
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: from the Disney movie Aladdin. Here and in a way

1157
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: it works really well. I can't remember what Billy Zane says,

1158
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: and maybe something about the golf shoes, but but it works.

1159
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: Oh but anyway, this leads to, you know, as the

1160
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: standard sequences, somebody has a temptation, they succumb to the temptation.

1161
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, I want I want what you are

1162
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: putting down. Billy Zane um and Dick Miller obviously wants this,

1163
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: and so he turns into a demon and attacks some

1164
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: of the characters. I don't remember all who, but I

1165
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: think maybe he's fighting with Jada Pinkett and and with

1166
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: William Sadler and and somehow his head gets cut off

1167
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: and uh. And there's a great scene where they the

1168
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: demons are vulnerable in their eyes. The way you can

1169
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: put a demon down is to like shoot it in

1170
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: the green eyeballs. And so the way they stopped Dick

1171
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: Miller's severed head from continually commanding his body to attack

1172
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: them is one of the characters grabs his head and

1173
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: shoves it into the antler of a mounted stag. Yeah.

1174
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: There's some great iye violence to the demons in this film. Yeah.

1175
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: There's also a great scene where Billy Zane is wheeling

1176
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: and dealing with Thomas Hayden Church because I remember thc is.

1177
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: He's been like, hey, I've got the key, I stole it.

1178
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: You know, I'll give it to you if you let

1179
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: me escape. And so they're they're talking about their deal. Uh,

1180
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: and Billy Zane is just walking on sunshine. He is

1181
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: so light on his feet and frisky and exciting. Yeah

1182
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: he is. It's it's another great scene. And it's and

1183
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: you know exactly what's going to happen, you know, and

1184
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: it's it's delightful. This is a scene in which it's

1185
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: it's like Tales from the Crypt classic again, because you

1186
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: have a horrible character that's gonna make making this choice.

1187
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna get away, but no, he's not

1188
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: gonna get away with it because he's gonna be double

1189
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: crossed by Billy Zane. He barely makes it down the

1190
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: stairs before he says, actually, I lied, You're not gonna

1191
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: make it away safe, and all the demons turn on

1192
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: Thomas Hayden Church and terry his character to pieces. The

1193
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: next thing that was really funny was that there is

1194
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: a scene of the next Temptation scene is of the

1195
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: kid Billy where he has turned into a violent maniac

1196
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: by reading a copy of the Tales from the Crypt

1197
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: comic book. I like that because on one hand, it

1198
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: does it is the idea of like the corrupting comic book,

1199
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: but it also made me think, you know, with the adults,

1200
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: Billy Zane's character of the collector, He's like, what have

1201
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: I offered you? Travel? What have I offered you all

1202
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: the beautiful women in booze in the world, But for

1203
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,959
Speaker 1: a kid, He's like, what have I just literally turned

1204
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: you into a bloodthirsty monster? Would you be down for that?

1205
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: And kids like, yes, yes, I vote yes, let's do

1206
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: exactly at then, and that's what happens, pure honesty. I

1207
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: love it now. As the characters, it's the kind of

1208
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: standard thing where in one of these supernatural fortress siege

1209
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: movies where the characters are continually driven further and further

1210
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: into retreat, like further back into the bailey or whatever,

1211
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: and so at this point they end up retreating to

1212
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: the attic, and at each point of retreat there's some

1213
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: kind of battle that goes on, and uh, we we

1214
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: get some chances for characters to actually be like courageous

1215
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: and be heroes. So, uh, Deputy Bob and Irene at

1216
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: one point like suicide bomb a bunch of the demons

1217
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: with a vestimate out of grenades. Yeah, they didn't watch

1218
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: an Aliens wheight, did they? Yes, they pull a Basquez

1219
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: and it's kind of sweet. Yeah, it is, of course,

1220
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: breaker bites it as well there after, Yeah, he gets maimed,

1221
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: and then of course he's like, oh oh they got me,

1222
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: they got me, you gotta become the new Chosen One

1223
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: to Jada Pinkett and she's like what it she? I

1224
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: guess she like catches his blood I think in the key,

1225
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: and it's just understood that yep, from now on she's

1226
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: just going to be immortal and and carrying this key around.

1227
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: But then then Billy Zane comes in for one final

1228
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: showdown with with Jada and uh so, and I gotta say,

1229
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the scene, he's got on sunglasses

1230
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: that make him look like Riddick, but but kind of

1231
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: like Riddic. Yeah, wait, what kind of Riddick like pre

1232
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: Riddic this the Riddic didn't exist yet, right, Oh, I

1233
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: guess not. Yeah, like maybe Vin Diesel. Eventually he saw

1234
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 1: Dimon nine. He's like that that's the look I'm gonna

1235
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: steal exactly. No, I'm not saying they're imitating Ridic Riddic.

1236
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he does look like him. Yeah, they

1237
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: look kind of like, yeah, almost like wrap around goggles. Yeah. Yeah.

1238
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: But there's another temptation scene where I guess he's trying

1239
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: once again. I think he's trying to convince Jeralne to

1240
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: marry him. I didn't exactly follow what was going to Basically,

1241
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I've won this point. I'm gonna kill you,

1242
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: but if I could turn you instead, if I could,

1243
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, if you marry me, then I'm even more

1244
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: of a success back home in the in the hells.

1245
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: So he's like, I'm gonna I'm gonna shoot the moon.

1246
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm going for it. You know, he's he's filling on

1247
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 1: top of it, and uh so he makes the offer, yeah,

1248
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: and Billy saying he is on broiler mode. In the scene,

1249
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: he is like the energy is electric. And there's a

1250
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: part where infernal lightning erupts out of his groin. I

1251
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: don't know if that's explained why he's just been like

1252
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: talking and then like lightning shoots out of his crotch.

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Speaker 1: That was in the featurets. It was mentioned that this

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Speaker 1: was Zane's idea for the character, and Dickerson was like,

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Speaker 1: let's do it, let's roll with it, let's give it

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Speaker 1: a shot. Good choice. Um, And then there's a good

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Speaker 1: climax that involves Jada Pinkett. The whole time that she

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Speaker 1: somehow has gotten William Sadler's blood in her mouth, and

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Speaker 1: the whole time Billy Zane is like asking her, well,

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Speaker 1: what do you say? He's trying to get her to

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Speaker 1: say something, and she won't. And then it's revealed that, oh,

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Speaker 1: she hasn't said anything because she still has the blood

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Speaker 1: in her mouth, the blood of Christ, I believe somehow. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, we can go ahead and talk about about

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Speaker 1: this real quick. The idea is that this key with

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Speaker 1: the special glass container portion of it, are they it

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Speaker 1: was used to collect the blood of Christ at the

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Speaker 1: crucifixion and yeah, yeah, and there's still a little Jesus

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Speaker 1: blood in there, but it's been replenished with other people's blood,

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Speaker 1: especially the blood of the Chosen Ones, over time. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm not sure how the genetics of that works

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Speaker 1: out or if that's important for holy blood, uh you know,

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Speaker 1: hurting demons, but that's apparently how it's supposed to work, right,

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Speaker 1: And so she's got this blood in her mouth and

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Speaker 1: what do you know, she spits it all over Billy

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Speaker 1: Zane's face and that that defeats him in the end. Yeah, great, Milt,

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Speaker 1: it's a great death scene. Because he melts a little bit,

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Speaker 1: then he turns into a puppet, he turns into a giant,

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Speaker 1: skeletal demon, and then he explodes. They just do all

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Speaker 1: the things like the f X team just they had

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Speaker 1: no chill on this film. They're just a hundred miles

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Speaker 1: an hour the whole time. And so I guess we're

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Speaker 1: just going to assume that now Jada Pinkett is gonna

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Speaker 1: live for eighty years or whatever until eventually she has

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Speaker 1: to find the next chosen One to put her blood

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Speaker 1: into so they can go on preventing Billy Zane from

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Speaker 1: taking over the world. Where I guess it's not Billy Zane.

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Speaker 1: I think he's destroyed. There's just gonna be a new

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Speaker 1: collector from Hell chasing her around, right, And we see

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Speaker 1: him at the end because she gets on a bus

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Speaker 1: and when she gets on she does the thing with

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Speaker 1: the blood that's done throughout the film where you form

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Speaker 1: a seal that the demons cannot cross. And then this

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Speaker 1: other guy that has a briefcase for the key, he

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Speaker 1: sees it and he's like, no, I'll wait on the

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Speaker 1: next bus. And so the chase continues, and and it

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Speaker 1: potentially sets up a sequel that we never got. But man,

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Speaker 1: I think it would have been good, would have been

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Speaker 1: far preferable to Bordello of Blood, which was the actual

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Speaker 1: tales from the Trip film to follow. I never saw

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Speaker 1: a Bordello of Blood, but I remember a when I

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Speaker 1: was in elementary school, a friend of mine telling me

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Speaker 1: about how his mom had a copy of that movie

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Speaker 1: on on VHS, and I was like, I did not

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Speaker 1: know what bordello meant and I and I knew nothing

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Speaker 1: of of Dennis Miller. I mean, well, yeah, it definitely

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Speaker 1: has Dennis Miller in it. I never saw that one.

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Speaker 1: There was even a third one that was I think

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Speaker 1: is even less worth seeing. I think it may have

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Speaker 1: Tim Curry in it, but it's like a New Orleans

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Speaker 1: zombie kind of a thing. How could a movie with

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Speaker 1: Tim Curry be not worth seeing. I don't know. It

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Speaker 1: just doesn't. It doesn't. I just don't. It doesn't call

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Speaker 1: out to me. Maybe other folks have have seen it

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Speaker 1: and they can tell us how it is. But I

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Speaker 1: also understand that like some releases of it didn't even

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Speaker 1: have the crypt Keeper sequences on it. They released it

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Speaker 1: as its own thing, and then other versions they put

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Speaker 1: the crypt Keeper back on but it's also not really

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: top shelf crypt Keeper puppetry going on. So it just

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Speaker 1: sounds it sounds like it would be sad to watch.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather stick with Demon and I it and like

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Speaker 1: the really great tales from the Crypt episodes. Okay, now, um,

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Speaker 1: in turns, we'll Larry talked to a good bit here

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Speaker 1: about the monsters and so forth. I guess it is

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Speaker 1: worth noting that we do have holy relics that or

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Speaker 1: at least alleged to contain the blood of Christ. I

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Speaker 1: was looking around a little bit. There are a couple

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Speaker 1: of relics of the Holy blood. Um, there's one in

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Speaker 1: the Basilica of Saint Andrea. There's one that at least

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Speaker 1: was at some point in Westminster in England. There's the

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Speaker 1: relic of the Precious Blood in vine Gotten Abbey in Germany.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, the idea of this key containing the blood

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Speaker 1: is it does seem to be based on actual holy

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Speaker 1: relics that allegedly contain holy blood. Yeah. I think also

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Speaker 1: this ties into the to the grail legend, like the

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Speaker 1: idea that at the death of Christ that Joseph of

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Speaker 1: Arimathea held a grail that caught the blood of Jesus

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Speaker 1: stripping from the cross, and that somehow later he brought

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Speaker 1: with him like containers of blood to other places. I

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Speaker 1: think like that that's part of the local Glastonbury legend

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Speaker 1: in Britain. Now. I don't know if any of these

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Speaker 1: have actually been used against demons though, but perhaps perhaps, Man,

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Speaker 1: there's so much they could have done with a sequel though,

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Speaker 1: you know, they could have had a thing where all right,

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Speaker 1: she's on the run as always, the demons are after

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Speaker 1: but then where does she wind up a genetics laboratory?

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Speaker 1: What do they want to do? They want to use

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Speaker 1: the precious blood in the in the key. They want

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Speaker 1: to try and clone Jesus or something, and then that

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Speaker 1: becomes a whole plot element. But then he'd be a

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Speaker 1: mutant because he'd be like part Jesus, but then also

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Speaker 1: part William Sadler and part Jaya Pinkett. William Sadler is

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ in Demon Night too. There's still time. There's

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Speaker 1: still time, Ernest Dickerson, if you're listening, please make it.

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Speaker 1: I will watch it. I will. I will take all

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01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: my friends to see it. I will as well. All right, well, um,

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Speaker 1: before we close out, I just want to I'll mention

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Speaker 1: again that you can rent or buy this one digitally

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Speaker 1: most places these days. But that twenty of teen Blu

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01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: ray release from shout Factory screen Factory import uh is

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Speaker 1: really slick and it's loaded with cool content. So if

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Speaker 1: you're a Demon Night fan, that's worth picking up. If

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Speaker 1: you're a Demon Yeah, we rented our copy from Video Drum,

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Speaker 1: the last video store here in Atlanta, Georgia. So if

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Speaker 1: you live in Atlanta, uh, go check out Video Drum.

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Speaker 1: It's great. And if you don't, look them up online

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Speaker 1: because you can buy some of their cool merch. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: they got great T shirts and stuff. Oh. I was

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Speaker 1: gonna say that the T shirt I'm wearing right now

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Speaker 1: is one of theirs. It's not, but it could be.

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Speaker 1: It's of their style. Oh oh, I see it. It

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Speaker 1: says Herzog and then it has the Danzig logo. Nice

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Speaker 1: Rachel got me this one? All right? Uh? Well, anything

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Speaker 1: else we need to say about Demon Night before we

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Speaker 1: we close the crypt down this one? I think that

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Speaker 1: wraps it up. But I just say again, great fun. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: As always, we'd love to hear from everyone out there.

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Speaker 1: Do you have do you have memories of seeing this

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Speaker 1: when it came out. We're discovering it later on. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Do you have particular episodes of Tales from the Crypt

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Speaker 1: that we're your favorite. Uh, we'd love to hear from

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Speaker 1: you about that as well, or just any of the

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01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: other elements in this be it Holy Blood or really

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Speaker 1: cool demons. Uh, it's all on the table. Dick Miller

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: movies that we should add to the list. Let us know.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, if you want to check out other

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Speaker 1: episodes of Weird House Cinema, it publishes every Friday in

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Speaker 1: the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast feed. Also, I

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Speaker 1: try to put up a blog post about the Weird

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Speaker 1: House series at Samoda music dot com. That's s E

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Speaker 1: m U t A Music dot com. It's just my

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Speaker 1: own personal blog. We don't have anywhere else to put

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Speaker 1: blog type content these days, so I'm just slapping it

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Speaker 1: up over there. Long. May you slap blogging and slapping

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Speaker 1: huge thanks as always to our excellent audio producer Seth

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Speaker 1: Nicholas Johnson. UH. If you would like to get in

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