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Speaker 2: That'd be bro.

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Speaker 1: We're here to break it all down. This is Fox

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Speaker 1: we're live from your tailgame. Here's Brian Nook, former Penn

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Speaker 1: State All American, Rich Hornberger and FSR betting analyst Jared Smith.

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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? We are fired up over

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Speaker 3: here on a Thanksgiving weekend, full slate of ball on

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Speaker 3: a Saturday, minus the games that have already been played,

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Speaker 3: and there have been quite a few on Black Friday

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Speaker 3: that we'll get to here momentarily. Good morning, Rich, No, Jared,

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Speaker 3: just yet.

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Speaker 2: Hey buddy, how you doing. We're rocking and rolling. It

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Speaker 2: was an interesting night for me. I was on the

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Speaker 2: road calling a college football game between San Diego State

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Speaker 2: and New Mexico. For basically the season, it all kind

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Speaker 2: of boiled down to a couple last games that needed

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Speaker 2: to play out in this New Mexico San Diego State

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Speaker 2: game for the Mount West Conference title matchup was really important.

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Speaker 2: New Mexico obviously, with Jason Eck their head coach, resurrected

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Speaker 2: their season, as did head coach Sean Lewis and the

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Speaker 2: San Diego State Aztecs, and New Mexico won a double

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Speaker 2: overtime thriller got the job done defending their home turf

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Speaker 2: to remain undefeated at home this season. And now we're

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Speaker 2: waiting on the result of the UNLV game today to

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Speaker 2: decide who actually meets each other next Friday in the

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Speaker 2: Mountwest Conference championship game. And so I'm fresh off of

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Speaker 2: flight from that, my man.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you're your bright eyed, bushy tailed the whole

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Speaker 3: thing here, or you're completely run down, sleep deprived and

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Speaker 3: just gutting it out.

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Speaker 2: One or the other. I couldn't tell you yet.

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Speaker 3: There's one of the two. Jared's with us now.

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Speaker 2: Very nice.

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Speaker 4: What's going on, Jared? How are you morning? Everyone very

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Speaker 4: excited to be here today.

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Speaker 3: Eat some turkey, got some deep fried?

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Speaker 2: What went on there?

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Speaker 4: It was awesome? Okay, I had some family in town.

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Speaker 4: Mom was here, Mom's first Thanksgiving in Vegas. How about that?

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Speaker 4: We saw Oz too, not the new movie. But they

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Speaker 4: played the original movie at the sphere. How cool was that?

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Speaker 4: Like the original nineteen thirties movie and they did all

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Speaker 4: this like cool interactive stuff. So awesome week. But we

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Speaker 4: got ball.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about the HBO show OZ

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Speaker 3: where it was prison and people are getting shanked left

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Speaker 3: and right.

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Speaker 2: No to do list.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm an old school movie.

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Speaker 2: I got you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to some of the games yesterday. Steve

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Speaker 3: Sarkisian is hitting the campaign trails hard for Texas. We'll

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Speaker 3: get to hook him momentarily. But what's fresh in my

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Speaker 3: mind right now is Decision Day.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 3: It's Lane Kiffin figuring out where he's gonna coach next.

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Speaker 3: He's either gonna stay put or he's going to LSU.

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Speaker 3: My money is on him going to LSU. But we'll

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Speaker 3: get official word today. I just don't know if he's

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Speaker 3: way that he has. Why would you wait until after

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Speaker 3: I'm not going anywhere. I'm staying here. This is where

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Speaker 3: think it's a total disservice to college football. But your thoughts,

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Speaker 3: where do you think Kiffin is gonna end up staying

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna chase the money. So if ole

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Speaker 2: And I think if LSU is the top offer, he's

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Speaker 2: about a paycheck. This is about grasping at life's golden

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Speaker 2: ring when it presents itself. And as we all know,

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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffen could compete for a national championship this year

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Speaker 2: at ole Miss and starting to next season zero to

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Speaker 2: four and they would be calling for his head. So

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Speaker 2: he knows that there's no allegiance here beyond one season

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Speaker 2: for him at ole Miss. I mean, that's the truth.

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Speaker 2: That's that's how we treat as a society head coaches

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Speaker 2: in college football. So why should they show any school

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Speaker 2: doing is exactly what Lank Kiffin should do based on

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Speaker 2: the current college football system we have all supported and constructed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there is a certain point where it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: we've reached enough of the spotlight. And I think to

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Speaker 4: if he's not staying, Well, the answer is because he

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Speaker 4: probably doesn't know yet. I honestly think that would that's

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Speaker 4: the only logical reason. Let's say he does stay at

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Speaker 4: Ole Miss the only logical reason to milk this as

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Speaker 4: long as he has milked it just to end up

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Speaker 4: staying it would be twofold. Either A he doesn't know yet,

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Speaker 4: To kind of milk this thing out to the very end,

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Speaker 4: is based on from what I've heard, he is. He

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Speaker 4: I believe he's gone sober. He's been open about that,

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Speaker 4: little bit more. But you're right, Rich, like there is

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Speaker 4: really no loyalty in college sports or in any sports

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Speaker 4: right now. But the problem with all of this, and

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Speaker 2: The problem with.

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Speaker 4: All of this coaching carousel, Brian is none of this

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Speaker 4: helps the players or the fans. It only benefits the

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Speaker 4: now at the postseason's critical point, I think we need

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Speaker 4: to move away from a system where this hubbub only

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Speaker 4: we need to be focusing on how we can get

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Speaker 4: the players and the fans to get a better cut

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Speaker 4: of the deal, especially at this.

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Speaker 2: Point in the year.

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Speaker 4: Like it's just I feel like we're just really missing

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Speaker 4: the point of what today really is, which is teams

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Speaker 4: clinching college wable playoff berths and championship berths and all

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Speaker 4: this stuff. But Lane Kiffin has sucked the oxygen out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's gonna pull a Wolf of Wall Street.

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Speaker 3: You know, when it's all said and done, he's just

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Speaker 3: gonna pull one of these.

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Speaker 1: Right, say that.

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Speaker 3: It's my favorite line from that one picture, Lane saying this, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: if he stays that's the way he's going to stay. Right,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be with theatrics and explosions and the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna have.

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Speaker 3: Pyro technics and that's just how Lane rolls. One of

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Speaker 3: my main points on this whole thing is how dumb

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Speaker 3: college football is to have the transfer portal window where

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Speaker 3: it is. It's from January second to January sixteenth, and

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Speaker 3: that's the only window. That's the only one that we

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Speaker 3: have right now. That's stupid for multiple reasons. The first

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Speaker 4: That it's in the middle of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Why would you do that? Why would you upstage yourself

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Speaker 3: in the middle of your own college football playoff? Think

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Speaker 3: of the NFL. Do you think the NFL would have

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Speaker 4: They would never.

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Speaker 3: Do something like that. They want the focus on the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: They don't want Hey, before the Divisional Round eight, Jalen

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Speaker 3: Phillips signs a three year deal with the Broncos. How

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Speaker 3: about that? Like, no, they want the focus on the games.

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Speaker 3: And instead college football put the window in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the playoffs. So you're gonna have multiple chaotic outcomes

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Speaker 3: where they are gonna be players on teams in the

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Speaker 4: And that's gonna be like, whoa, this guy's leaving.

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Speaker 3: He's on the team, Like wow, You're gonna have all

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Speaker 3: that and the trickle down when it comes to a

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Speaker 3: situation like Lane Kiffen. If Lane Kiffen goes to LSU,

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Speaker 3: that's not a crime.

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Speaker 2: You can do that.

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Speaker 3: You can go from one school to the next. But

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Speaker 3: ole Miss is in a position where they can't allow

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Speaker 4: They have to get the new guy in there.

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Speaker 3: Because if they lose out on the transfer portal, this

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Speaker 3: they're screwed going forward. They they have to kick Lane

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Speaker 3: To me, that's not fair to Lane Kiffin. He should

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Speaker 3: be allowed to finish out this season, but the transfer

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Speaker 3: think it's really unfair to the players. The players they

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Speaker 3: don't want an interim head coach. They want their guy.

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Speaker 3: They want Lane Kiffin. Why would they want someone else,

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Speaker 3: And they're not going to be allowed to have that

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Speaker 3: should he choose to go to LSU, which is perfectly fine.

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Speaker 3: I hate the window being where it is. It's so stupid.

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Speaker 3: It shouldn't be during the playoff. It shouldn't be creating

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Speaker 3: a situation like this with Lane Kiffen and the players

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Speaker 3: where they're gonna pay the price if he goes to

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Speaker 3: LSU and he's not gonna be able to finish out

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Speaker 3: the year. I think it sucks for many reasons, but

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Speaker 3: college football is dumb for having the window from January

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Speaker 3: tewod to the sixteenth. It makes absolutely no sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of things. It affects the players, the coaches,

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Speaker 2: the programs too harshly, and yeah, you're forgetting LSU. It

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Speaker 2: hurts them too because wouldn't they want to boost on

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Speaker 2: the transfer portal And wouldn't if Lane Kiffen was going

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Speaker 2: to move on to LSU, wouldn't he have to make

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six from the transfer portal. So everybody, every

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Speaker 2: team involved is harshly affected by this window. And I'll

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Speaker 4: Yet, what Brian and Richard describing to me is the

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Speaker 4: Well Playoff game. It was insane. It was one of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so dumb, Like they used to have a

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Speaker 3: you know. LSU is like, uh, we need Youane, Lane.

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Speaker 3: We're paying you a lot of money. This is the

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Speaker 3: We're letting our hair down early here. All right, We're

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Speaker 3: Here's what Sark had to tell Molly McGrath on ESPN

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Speaker 6: If you really look at the body of work, and

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Speaker 3: Look at the non conference schedule.

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Speaker 1: We out ain't about nearly two hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: So is not what college football is about.

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Speaker 3: It's a good argument, you know. It's the best thing

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Speaker 2: out if they jumped in to the playoff. How would

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Speaker 2: you be? He would be making the opposite argument, like

439
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: he would say, no, that's a three loss team. I'm sorry,

440
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: but the record's the record. Look, what he's doing is

441
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: he's singing for his own supper, and he's placating anybody

442
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 2: who will listen to buy the argument, because this is

443
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: the side of the coin he's on right now. He's

444
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in, so of course he has

445
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: this opinion. But I don't think that Steve Sarkisian is

446
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 2: going to stick to his guns next year. If he's

447
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 2: trying to fend off a three win team or excuse me,

448
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: a three loss team that's trying to fight their way

449
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: into the playoff, he's going to point to their record

450
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: and say, hey, look, the record's not good enough. The

451
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: record's just not good enough, So don't buy it for

452
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Speaker 2: a second. It's not like he's loyal to the ideology

453
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 2: or loyal to the argument. He's loyal to the argument

454
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Speaker 2: this year because it's the argument that suits Steve Sarkisian

455
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Speaker 2: and the Longhorns.

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and don't get me wrong, Texas does have a

457
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 4: really solid resume, But if we're using the quality loss argument,

458
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 4: then you just really can't put them in the playoff

459
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Speaker 4: with the loss of Florida. I think, you know, it's

460
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: almost like you're going through the pros and cons of

461
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: dating someone and you just ignore the gigantic red flag

462
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 4: because all of the pros outweigh them, like, for example,

463
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 4: only team to beat three culturable Playoff Top ten teams

464
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Speaker 4: at the time of the game. They're the only team

465
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: in college wopball to do that. They're the only team

466
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 4: with two wins against teams currently ranked in the Cullegeurwable

467
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 4: Playoff Top ten, the first team since the LSU National

468
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 4: Championship team to beat three ap top ten teams at

469
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 4: the time of the game. I mean, the resume is

470
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 4: really strong on the pro side, but then there's that

471
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 4: red flag that's just staring you're right in the face.

472
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Speaker 4: And unfortunately, I don't think the committee can ignore it

473
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Speaker 4: because of the precedent they have set in years past

474
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Speaker 4: where they care about the quality of your losses. Now,

475
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 4: to be fair, I do think there is a path

476
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Speaker 4: for them to get in. It involves a whole lot

477
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Speaker 4: of chaos. It involves Oklahoma losing to LSU. It involves

478
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 4: Alabama losing at Auburn. It involves Oregon losing at Washington.

479
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 4: I think they need two or three of those things

480
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: to happen. They need Vandy to lose to Tennessee. I mean,

481
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: I think they need like at least two of those results.

482
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 4: I think to take place. They need BYU to get

483
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: smacked by Texas Tech in the Big Twelve Championship game

484
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 4: and to put them on two losses. I mean, maybe

485
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 4: even Miami to lose to Pittsburgh today. Like they might

486
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 4: need three or four of those things to happen in

487
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 4: order for them to get into the playoff. But I

488
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 4: do see a path, like I think because of the

489
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 4: recency bias narrative that is going to seep into this conversation.

490
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Speaker 4: If two or three of those things that I just

491
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Speaker 4: mentioned happened today and then you got Texas sitting there

492
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Speaker 4: and the last thing the committee saw was them beating

493
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Speaker 4: an undefeated A and M team, then yeah, I do

494
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 4: think there's a possibility. So I'm not gonna slam the

495
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 4: door shut. I'm not gonna, you know, like at Jehovah's

496
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Speaker 4: Witness comes to your door and Sark's trying to sell

497
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 4: you on all this stuff. I'm not gonna slam the

498
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 4: door in his face. I'm gonna listen to him. But

499
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Speaker 4: I do think at the end of the day, it's

500
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Speaker 4: gonna take a lot of help in order to get

501
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Speaker 4: the Long Horns into the playoff. Yeah, it's not happening.

502
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Speaker 3: There's not like a I hear you, Jared, Like technically

503
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: if the planets aligned and this team loses and that

504
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: team loses, and this other team and that other team

505
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 3: and maybe one other like if all that happens, yeah, sure,

506
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: it's not kinda it's not viable path for them to

507
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: make the playoff.

508
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 4: Nor should they.

509
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: I just I don't think that they have the goods

510
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: And listen, they've got a resume where you can play

511
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: this game where it's.

512
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 4: Like, ah, just ignore.

513
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 3: That, but look at this, look at this, look at

514
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: look at all these, and Texas has that. Texas has

515
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: some great things on their resume that you can point

516
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: to last night being the best thing. They just been

517
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: an undefeated team by ten points. That matters. But what

518
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 3: also matters is losing to Florida. Like the example Jared

519
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 3: pointed out, if you're looking at this girl to possibly

520
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: date and you're like, like, like Texas's resume, If it's

521
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 3: this girl you're thinking about dating, it would be like, man,

522
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 3: she's really smart, she's beautiful. The only the only drawback

523
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: is she doesn't have a nose, and it's like, what

524
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: that would be the loss to Florida. She doesn't have

525
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: a nose, Like, how could that be?

526
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: It's blowing my mind.

527
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: You don't even have one, right like that, you can't

528
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: ignore the loss to Florida, Like, get out of here. Hook,

529
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Better luck next year, win more games. I

530
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 3: don't know what to tell you. We moved to Miami

531
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 3: against Pittsburgh and Miami's number twelve, Pitt is number twenty two.

532
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: Pitt is a seven point home dog here. And you know,

533
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 3: as far as just the game, we'll look at the game,

534
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: then look at the big picture here. I think Miami's

535
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 3: pass rush could really mess up Pitt's whole offensive attack.

536
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: Here.

537
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: They're very reliant on the passing game. They broke out

538
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: running the ball, but that was against.

539
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 4: Georgia Tech last week. That's not gonna happen against Miami.

540
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: And when you saw pitt get blasted by Notre Dame,

541
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: a big part of that was Notre Dame's pass rush.

542
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: It completely discombobulated Mason Heidinchel and that passing game. So

543
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: I look for that to possibly be the formula today

544
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: and also the bigger picture. Man, it seems like everybody's

545
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: gung ho on Miami except the Committee. The Committee's like, yeah, yeah,

546
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: we'll figure it out. Don't worry, we got this. But

547
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: every argument I hear is just how can you leave

548
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: the canes out? And I hate to say, you guys

549
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: know this about me. I'm more on that side of

550
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: the argument. Head to head has to matter more. And

551
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: in this situation, I get it. If Notre Dame, you know,

552
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 3: if they had these glowing, huge wins and okay, like

553
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: maybe head to head doesn't matter as much. But the

554
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 3: resumes being what they are, Notre Dame, Miami, these teams

555
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: are comparable. I don't know how the Committee can say

556
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 3: they're not even comparable. We're not even really comparing them.

557
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: That's insanity. The schedules being what they are, who they played,

558
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 3: who they beat. Notre Dame has better losses, Miami has

559
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 3: the best win. They beat Notre Dame head to head,

560
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: that has to matter more. I'm more against the Committee

561
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: than with the Committee on this one. So what do

562
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: you think about the game? What do you think about

563
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: Miami and the playoff coming up here?

564
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: Rich? Yeah, I mean Miami in general, I feel like

565
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: they could be sitting pretty and they really could feel

566
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: better about where they were if they would have performed

567
00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: better against Louisville and SMU. But you know, they let

568
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: both of those games slip away late, and you know

569
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: you are what your record says you are. And that's

570
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: kind of the same problem the Longhorns have right now.

571
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: And I mean that in two ways. It's both the

572
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: losses you have, how pretty or bad those losses are,

573
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: and also the strength of the schedule you play against.

574
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: Like both of those things are considered, and both of

575
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: those things will matter when your reputation is being weighed

576
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: and balanced against the other best teams in the country

577
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: to decide who goes and who stays home. So yeah,

578
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: I again, it's an unfair world for teams that didn't

579
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: take care of business. But them's the breaks, and this

580
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: game look still very important because there is a way

581
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 2: they could still vie for an ACC championship game, and

582
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: there is a route there. They need some help. But

583
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: you look at Miami against Pitts specifically, I think the

584
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: matchup that you're going to focus on if you're real

585
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: football nut and you love to see the nuts and

586
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: bolts work themselves out, is this pit offensive line against

587
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: this Miami defensive line. I think that's where the game

588
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: is gonna be won and loss. Miami. That is the

589
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: strength of their team. There's no question Pitt's gonna have

590
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: a long, hard day trying to run the football. I

591
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: don't think that's gonna be their plan. But they're also

592
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: gonna need to get the ball out of their pretty

593
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: talented quarterbacks hands quickly here today. So we'll see if

594
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: they can handle the rush and we'll see if they

595
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: can get the ball moving at all on the ground.

596
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Pittsburgh on offense, but I do think

597
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 2: that's gonna be the matchup to watch.

598
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, again with the Miami getting into the playoff talk,

599
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 4: it's the same issue as Texas, just a little bit different.

600
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: It's the quality loss discussion, like if you eliminate the

601
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: head to head and I'm not saying the head to

602
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 4: head shouldn't matter, but this is how the committee's framing

603
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 4: it because again, they've given us this precedent, they have

604
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 4: shown us what they care about based off of last year.

605
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean they can't change their mind, because they're

606
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 4: human beings and they changed their mind all the time,

607
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: but based off of what we've seen they care more

608
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: about quality losses. Well, Miami loss to Louisville and SMU

609
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: Notre Dame loss to Miami in A and M It's

610
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: to me it's obvious which team has better losses? Should

611
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: that matter in a playoff where it could go down

612
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: to one on one? And I think the reason why

613
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 4: I think the committee does, I'm trying to think of it.

614
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: I'm trying to look at it from their perspective. There

615
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: isn't always a cut and dry head to head matchup

616
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: that you can grade, so the committee defaults to quality

617
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: losses as kind of that differentiator. I understand that because

618
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: how how often are we comparing two teams like Notre

619
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 4: Dame in Miami and they just happen to play each other,

620
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 4: and the team that happened to win has the worst

621
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 4: losses later on the net season like it like the

622
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: way that it played out this year with that scenario

623
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: is very you. But I do think head the head

624
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: should matter. It's the first tiebreaker in almost every scenario

625
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 4: when you grade teams, especially in the NFL. So I

626
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: think we need to adjust the way we frame these teams.

627
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: But again, I only have the information that's in front

628
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: of me, which is based off of how the committee

629
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: has graded teams in the past. Miami is on the

630
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: outside of this conversation because of the quality loss narrative.

631
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: To be fair, though lack could change today and all

632
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 4: of a sudden by next week based off of carnage.

633
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: Similar to the Texas argument, it might not matter because

634
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: Miami is so far in the field because of all

635
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: the other crap that happens around them. About this particular game,

636
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: I think Pitt's a little live here, I do. I

637
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 4: think the weather.

638
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: Could be a factor.

639
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: It's cold. It's a cloudy, miserable day in Pittsburgh. I

640
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: don't think there's gonna be any rain. But I don't

641
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: think Miami likes thirty degrees. I know Carson Beck certainly doesn't.

642
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: He likes it nice and warm. That's why he transferred

643
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: to Miami and not Boys. And Heinschel's been very high

644
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: and low. I mean, if he gives you his plus

645
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: game today and Miami struggles to get after the passer, yeah,

646
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 4: I could see Pittsburgh hanging in this game. But Miami

647
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 4: is so good in the trenches. I think Malakai Tony

648
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: has a big game. That was the bet I made

649
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: in this game I made Tony over seventy two and

650
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 4: a half receiving yards. He is one of the highest

651
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: graded receivers in the Power For Actually, this might shock you,

652
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: he's the third highest graded Power for receiver behind Jeremiah

653
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Speaker 4: Smith and McKay lemon. I mean, he's a freshman and

654
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: those two other guys are NFL first rounders. So I

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Speaker 4: am very impressed with what I've seen from Tony third

656
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: in yak third and miss tackles like he's one of

657
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 4: the best receivers in the country this year, and Pittsburgh

658
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: has struggled in the slot at the cornerback position. That's

659
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: one of their weaknesses. So I think Tony could be

660
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: in for a big game on the other side of

661
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Speaker 4: the ball that defense for Miami's nasty Mesador and Baine.

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Speaker 4: I mean that could be, like he might Bay might

663
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Speaker 4: be the number one pick in the draft next year, guys.

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Speaker 4: See as crazy as that sounds, her well could be.

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Speaker 4: And they've got just a bunch of dudes up front.

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00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh's own lines about average this year. I think that's

667
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 4: the matchup on that side of the ball is pressure

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00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 4: on Heinchel and he can kind of be a little

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Speaker 4: turnover prone, and Miami's done a really good job generating

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Speaker 4: pressure this year.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that the committee is thinking of it

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Speaker 3: like this, but I know a lot of people on

673
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Speaker 3: the outside looking in or thinking about it like this.

674
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Speaker 3: I can't even believe I'm gonna say this. All right,

675
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: there's an argument for Notre Dame, the team I love,

676
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 3: the city that I was born and raised in. There's

677
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 3: an argument for Notre Dame that is just freaking awful. Okay.

678
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: The argument is, well, hey, if these teams met on

679
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: a neutral field right now, I think Notre Dame would win,

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00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: as if what we're putting Notre Dame in the playoff

681
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Speaker 3: because of that? Like here, here's the thing. I think

682
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: that Notre Dame right now is a better team than Miami.

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00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 3: I also think that on a neutral field, Notre Dame

684
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: would win. But guess what that could be freaking wrong?

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Speaker 2: All right?

686
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 3: I thought Ohio State was gonna blow the doors off

687
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: Michigan last year. They lost at home. Like, there are

688
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 3: surprises all the time in football. And we're gonna sit

689
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: here and say Notre Dame should be ranked higher because

690
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: we think they would win on a neutral field. Are

691
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: you out of your mind right now. That is insanity.

692
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: We can't put a team in the playoff because you

693
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 3: think they would win on a neutral field. Now we

694
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: gotta go by what actually happened on an actual field

695
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Speaker 3: instead of this theoretical new matchup on a neutral field.

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Speaker 3: That's insanity. I hate saying I'm wearing a Notre Dame

697
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: shirt right now. I hate myself. But that's the truth.

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Speaker 3: That's a terrible argument.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it always will be because you're operating

700
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: in fantasy and you're looking at you're looking at things

701
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: too qualitatively instead of quantitatively, like we have data. We

702
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: actually have raw data that shows us who who you

703
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: are as a football team, and we're going to trust

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00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: this ethereal imaginary land where if these teams face each

705
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: other and we sprinkled the little fairy dust, the outcome

706
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: would look like this. It's like, okay, yeah, that's great.

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00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: But if that is all it was, then why do

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00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: we have a regular season. Let's just fast forward to

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00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: the playoff and just assume who's gonna be the best

710
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: teams based on rosters, the same way we do with

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Speaker 2: preseason polling, which, by the way, how often does the

712
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: poll in January look anything like it did in August.

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Speaker 2: The answer is they look vastly different, and there is

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Speaker 2: a reason because all of a sudden quantitatively, teams factor

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Speaker 2: themselves out, They get hurt, they get worse, teams get better.

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Speaker 2: Things change. So you cannot convince me that the right

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00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: way to look at this argument is, well, if these

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00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: two random teams who didn't face each other did face

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Speaker 2: each other in Valhalla, like in this ethereal world that

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00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: floats somewhere above our imagination, the outcome would be closer

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Speaker 2: than whatever happened week three of this season. It's like, okay, great,

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Speaker 2: but Week three of the season did happen and the

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Speaker 2: Canes did lose that game or Texas did lose that

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Speaker 2: game to DJ Lagway and company, like we saw the result,

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Speaker 2: So you have to punish them or give them their

726
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: their props accordingly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. That's Rich Ornberger, Penn State All American.

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Speaker 1: Check this out r lay flatter.

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Speaker 3: All right, Jared, we start with you. We each have

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Speaker 4: What do you like today? Well, I was looking at

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Speaker 4: this Vandy Tennessee game, and I think we're in the

751
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: point of the year where I would prefer to bet

752
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Speaker 4: unders where I can just because of you know, whether

753
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 4: in the vibes of the season everything's getting tighter. But

754
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: I see shootout vibes. With this game. You have two

755
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Speaker 4: of the three highest graded quarterbacks in college football, Diego

756
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 4: Pavia and Joey Aguilar, and Vandy and Tennessee I think

757
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 4: are gonna be slinging it all over the yard. I

758
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 4: don't like the Tennessee pass rush in this game, and

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Speaker 4: I think that is where Pavia you get that Heisman vibe,

760
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: and I think he is gonna be chasing that. So

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's gonna be a letoff in this game. Obviously,

762
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 4: Vandy still has hopes to make the Collegeable playoff. Joey

763
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: Aguilar and the Tennessee offense goes quick, quick, quick, quick tempo.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna sell a couple of points here. The

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Speaker 4: total sixty six and a half, we're gonna go over

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Speaker 4: sixty eight and a half, So hofef we get sixty

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Speaker 4: the parley platter.

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Speaker 2: Okay. I like this UNLV Nevada game going over the

770
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Speaker 2: fifty three and a half total. And here's why UNLV

771
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: needs this win, like blood to stay in the conversation

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00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: for the mount West Conference title game. You have a

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Speaker 2: great UNLV offense, very efficient offense going against a very

774
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: poor Nevada defense, and then you have a poor Nevada

775
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: offense that ugly but just good enough to put up

776
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: some points in some of their matchups this year. Going

777
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Speaker 2: against a defense for the Reps that's really struggled this year,

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Speaker 2: I think this game has serious implications of going way

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Speaker 2: over and so, yeah, I liked over on that fifty

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Speaker 2: three and a half number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go with this Miami pit game. I'm

782
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Speaker 3: looking at the first half. I've got under twenty four

783
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Speaker 3: and a half. I just don't see points galore early

784
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: in this game. I don't see points galore throughout the game.

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Speaker 3: Miami is a really tough defense. I don't think Pitt's

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Speaker 3: gonna be able to run the ball very effectively. And

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Speaker 3: Mason Heinschel, who I like a lot. He's had a

788
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Speaker 3: lot of success. He threw for like a buck thirty

789
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Speaker 3: against Notre Dame because the pass rush gave him all

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00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: kinds of fits. I think the same thing happens with

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Speaker 3: Miami today. I don't think Pitt's gonna gain a ton

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Speaker 3: of yards score a bunch of points in Miami's offense

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Speaker 3: on the road, cold conditions, I don't think they just

794
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: start hot right out of the gate. So I've got

795
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Speaker 3: the first half under twenty four and a half in that.

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Speaker 4: One, eight to one after a nice little parlay boost all.

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Speaker 3: Right, coming up next. This guy receives all the blame

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Speaker 3: and it does not make sense. Ah, yes, what is

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Speaker 3: going on? Happy Saturday to you. We are two hours

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Speaker 3: away from kickoff, hopefully two hours away from Pitt playing

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Speaker 3: great against Miami to help out Notre Dame. Hopefully we're

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Speaker 3: two hours away from that. I don't know, maybe we're not,

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Speaker 3: but we're two hours away from kickoff. I do know

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Speaker 3: that we're gonna get to a man, maybe the most

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Speaker 3: hated man in the NFL this season, that comes your

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Speaker 3: and so much more. I think Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: Kevin Petulo is the most hated man in the NFL

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Speaker 3: this season.

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Speaker 2: Truly.

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Speaker 4: Only someone told you that before the season started. In

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Speaker 4: a in depth film study about the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: All yes, I know all the problems are because of

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Speaker 3: Kevin Petulo, Like this is this is the thing to me,

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00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: all right, Kevin Petulo stinks.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with that.

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Speaker 3: As Jared detailed in his twenty five minute video, you know,

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Speaker 3: breaking it down, He's not good. This offense is way

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00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: too simplistic. So make no mistake. I'm not sitting here

823
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Speaker 3: telling you, hey, you guys get it wrong. Patulo he's

824
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 3: got the goods. I'm not saying that at all. What

825
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: I am saying is he's blamed for everything that is

826
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: wrong with this Eagles offense. So they lost to the

827
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: Bears yesterday on Black Friday, twenty four to fifteen. Same

828
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: old story with the offense, you know, choppy, not getting

829
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: it done, not scoring enough, The defense got ran all over,

830
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: but they only gave up ten points through three quarters.

831
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: A good offense, you have the lead, you might have

832
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 3: a comfortable lead at that stage against a bad Bears defense.

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00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 4: But the truth is this Eagles offense is broken right now.

834
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: And all I hear is all Patulo. But that's my

835
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: new running joke. Any mistake. Even though it's not Patulo's fault,

836
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: it is Petulo's fault. Right, Like, if Jalen Hurts missus

837
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: Devonte Smith wide open across the middle, it's a walking touchdown.

838
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: If he just throws a simple pass. Oh freaking Petulo.

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00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: You know that's my new running joke where if Jalen

840
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: Hurts fumbles on a tush PUSH's that's Petulo's fault right there.

841
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: If Saquon Barkley drops a screen pass that's gonna go

842
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: for at least fifteen yards late in the game when

843
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 3: they have to have it, Oh, it's Petulo's fault right there.

844
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Speaker 3: That's the thing. Petulo's blamed for everything, and it's just

845
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: not the case. It's not true, it's ridiculous, it's misplaced blame.

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00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: The truth is with the Eagles, the offensive line is

847
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: greatly regressed, partly because of injuries. They don't have the

848
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: same running game at all. And Jalen Hurts is just

849
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: a guy without a good running attack. He's just average

850
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 3: without a great running attack like last year when Saquan's

851
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: rushing for two thousand yards. That's the truth with the Eagles.

852
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: So they still have limitations offensively that extend beyond Petulo.

853
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: Yet Patulo is blamed for everything. I think it's ridiculous.

854
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 3: He's the most hated man in the NFL this season,

855
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: and I think it's the dumbest take of the entire

856
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: NFL season to blame everything on Patuloh. But here we are.

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Speaker 2: I agree with almost everything he said. I really do.

858
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: I like here's the reality. I think that Jalen Hurts

859
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: even when the Eagles are good. If you ask people honestly,

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Speaker 2: even Eagles fans, honestly, would you replace Jalen Hurts with

861
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Speaker 2: quarterback X, The answer would be yes, a lot more

862
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: than if you did this exercise with a guy like Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: a guy like Josh Allen, even a player who hasn't

864
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Speaker 2: had as much playoff success like a Justin Herbert, just

865
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: based on talent. Because Jalen Hurts I don't think is

866
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: one of those elite talents in the NFL. Do I

867
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: think he's a great winner? Yeah? Do I think it

868
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: has everything to with his talent? No, I think he

869
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: has been drafted into a very good circumstance with a

870
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: pretty stable head coach who's done a nice job is

871
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: surrounding him with talent and a staff that can coach

872
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: up that talent. And defensively, they've had a really strong

873
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: defense and offensive line wise throughout the majority of his career,

874
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: they've had a really strong offensive line and a run

875
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: game wise, they've had a really strong offensive or excuse me,

876
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: run game throughout most of his career. So I think

877
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: that takes the pressure off of a young developing quarterback

878
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: into a quarterback who can win and have the confidence.

879
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: And he came from a winning program and we know

880
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: all that. But getting back to Patula, I talked to

881
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: Wade Phillips once and during the conversation, I just asked

882
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: him about systems that work in systems that don't, and

883
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: what he thinks separates the winning coaching systems from the

884
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: losing ones. And he goes, Listen, there's a lot of

885
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: great offensive and defensive systems out there. But if you

886
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: have a great system that great players can't play Graydon, well,

887
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: then you got a bad system and you got to

888
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: throw it away and you got to figure out a

889
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: new system. And I think that's what's starting to unveil

890
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: itself in Philadelphia. They've had coaching changes. Unfortunately, Heavy is

891
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 2: the head that bears the crown. When you have a

892
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: good team, you're gonna get poached and you're gonna have

893
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: a brain drain every year or every two years. You're

894
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: gonna have your coordinators stolen from you and they're gonna

895
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: go become head coaches at different places around the NFL.

896
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: We saw that with Shane Steichen. We saw that with

897
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: Gannon after they won the Super Bowl. When you have

898
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: new coordinators, you need to coach them up or you

899
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 2: need to trust that their system is going to accommodate

900
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: your best players on the field. Otherwise you have a

901
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: bad system. If you have aj Brown on your field

902
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 2: and you can't find a way to keep him engaged,

903
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: if you can't find a way to get him the ball,

904
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 2: if you can't find a way to have success with

905
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: him and Smith and a quarterback who's talented enough like Hurts,

906
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: and a running back like Saquon Barkley, and a good

907
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: enough offensive line, not great, not as good as they've

908
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: been in years past, but a good enough offensive line. Well,

909
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: then you got a bad offensive system. And that's what

910
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: the Philadelphi Eagles are dealing with right now.

911
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree Brian that you can't blame Petulo for

912
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: the execution of the plays on the field like that,

913
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 4: I think feels like a fair argument. But there also

914
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 4: is a level of I guess buy in from the players,

915
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 4: and when not everyone's fully bought in, that's when you

916
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 4: do see some of these inconsistencies on the field. Instead

917
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 4: of giving you my opinion, I will give you the

918
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 4: opinion of an Eagles reporter who I trust too. I've

919
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: been back and forth with all summer. You know, I

920
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 4: sent her the video and she's, you know, gave it

921
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 4: to a couple of our people. She's like, yeah, everyone

922
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 4: you know in our room agrees that, Like, it's just

923
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 4: not quite what we expected with the offense so far.

924
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: She said.

925
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: I think it's easy to blame the OC, but in reality,

926
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 4: these issues have happened on some level every year. Nick

927
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 4: is been OC and Jalen's been quarterback. Also, offensive line

928
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 4: banged up, doesn't help Saquon not himself, Stupid penalties. I mean,

929
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 4: I think that sums it up pretty well. Devin Kaney.

930
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: She does a great job covering the Eagles for one

931
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 4: of the radio stations. Aaron Philly gave me that, you know,

932
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 4: her opinion on the struggles this week, and I think

933
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 4: that is on point. Like, I think you do have

934
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 4: to at some level, and this is just the way

935
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 4: football is, Like we're talking about it with the link

936
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: Kiff and stuff like it. It all falls on the

937
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: coaching staff at some point, and that's why, like someone

938
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: has to be the scapegoat always. We always need somebody

939
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 4: to blame, and in this particular instance, Petulo is the

940
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 4: easy target because he wasn't the OC lost ter when

941
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 4: they won the Super Bowl. He hasn't been an OC

942
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 4: in his entire career. He's the new guy, you know,

943
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 4: in the play calling room. I know he's been on

944
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 4: the staff for a while, but obviously this role for

945
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 4: him is different. And there were a lot of question

946
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 4: marks when they brought in Scott Loflein in the offseason.

947
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: I mean I was ringing the bell, like, why are

948
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 4: you bringing in a guy who has been a head

949
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 4: coach and an offensive coordinator at the highest levels of

950
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 4: not only college football but also in the NFL and

951
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 4: you're bringing him in on a team that already has

952
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 4: the nucleus in place, Like that was a gigantic red

953
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 4: flag for me that they don't fully trust the guy

954
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 4: they just hired who to call the plays, and that,

955
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 4: to me, has played out exactly the way it looked

956
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: like when you're bringing in a guy like Scott Loefler. Again,

957
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: for those unfamiliar, Scott Lawler is the quarterbacks coach of

958
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 4: the Eagles. He's arguably, besides the offensive coordinator, the most

959
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 4: important person in that offensive room in Jalen hurts his

960
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 4: ear and you hire him from Bowling Green, like the

961
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 4: most random places of all places to hire an NFL

962
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 4: top notch assistant, and you bring him into the room

963
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: in the summer, and now you're seeing kind of I

964
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: think the reason why they made that higher because it's

965
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: just not fully right. And I'm not saying Petullo's to

966
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 4: blame for everything, but I think the initial reaction was

967
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 4: they don't really trust this guy, and I think they're

968
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 4: looking to pivot at some point. Maybe it won't happen

969
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 4: this year, maybe it'll happen in the off season. We'll

970
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 4: see how the rest of the year plays out for Philly.

971
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, they need to play better too, Brian. But

972
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 4: I do think at it at the core, there is

973
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 4: a bit of a communication issue with the offensive play

974
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: calling and how things are being executed on the field.

975
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: I just as a joke, I blame puttu Low for everything,

976
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: not just watching Eagles games. I blame him for like

977
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 3: everyday life type stuff where if I go to if

978
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: I go to the grocery store and the eggs cost

979
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: too much, freaking put tou low. You know, I just

980
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 3: blame him for everything because that's the fashionable thing to do.

981
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: Right here, The truth is, right, there's some truth. If

982
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: they they just kicked him to the curb and they

983
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 3: brought in an offensive play caller that has the goods,

984
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, you would see some positive

985
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: impact on the Eagles. It would jump start them in

986
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: certain ways, but you would also see the glaring deficiencies

987
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 3: that they're dealing with right now. Right even the best

988
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: offensive play caller, he'd be like, all right, so offensive

989
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 3: line is regressed, and we're having a hard time running

990
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: the ball, Okay, all right, well that's gonna be challenging.

991
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: And well let's throw it here. And we've got Jalen Hurts,

992
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: who's really average without a good running game, you know,

993
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have limitations with that offense, with whoever's

994
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: calling plays right now. That's just the truth of the matter.

995
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: I want to get the Chiefs in here because and

996
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 3: we're not just gonna talk smack about Philly We got

997
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: to talk smack about the Chiefs as well, right, like

998
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 3: what is going They're.

999
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: Six and six.

1000
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: The Chiefs are six and six with the healthy Mahomes

1001
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 3: all season long. Is amazing to me. And it's the

1002
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 3: same thing against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, these unforced errors

1003
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: where it's a one score game. We're in the fourth quarter,

1004
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 3: about nine and a half minutes to go, Chiefs down

1005
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: by seven, and they've got the ball around midfield, third

1006
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 3: and eight, gotta have it wide open Rashie Rice over

1007
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: the middle. He just drops it, just drops the ball

1008
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 3: like this never happened before for the Chiefs committing big

1009
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: mistakes in key moments, but they've done it time and

1010
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: time again this season. It just blows my mind. Man,

1011
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: in today's NFL, if you have arguably the best quarterback

1012
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: in the game in Mahomes, teams just don't miss the

1013
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: playoffs with an advantage like that, you know.

1014
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: And it's not like they've got this the.

1015
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: Bengals defense or you know what I mean, like the

1016
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: worst offensive line in football. It's amazing that this team

1017
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: is six and six here. But that's where we are, man,

1018
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: with a healthy Mahomes and without like huge injuries up

1019
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: and down the roster. They're a six and six football team.

1020
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 3: That blows my mind.

1021
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think there's something, I think,

1022
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: from a motivation standpoint, very much wrong with this team.

1023
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: I remember when I was playing in New England and

1024
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: this was the down years, the quote unquote down years

1025
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: for the Patriots. We still went to the playoffs every year,

1026
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: was there. It was two thousand and nine through the

1027
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: twenty eleven season. We had a Super Bowl berth. That

1028
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 2: was the second loss in the twenty twelve Super Bowl

1029
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: to the Giants. And this again, this was considered the

1030
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: down years for the Patriots. Still winning the division every

1031
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: year or getting in as a wildcard and making deep

1032
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 2: playoff runs and all that stuff. So anyways, I remember

1033
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: every single year feeling as much on eggshells as I

1034
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: did my rookie year. And the reason was because Bill Belichick,

1035
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: regardless of how you feel about him now, but when

1036
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: he was at the head of the class with Tom

1037
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: Brady in that room, he made it very clear that

1038
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: whatever the results were the year before did not matter.

1039
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: It was brand new season, it was a brand new team.

1040
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: You didn't earn anything, yet you are nobody's doing nothing

1041
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: until you do something, and I remember that feeling was

1042
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: very tenuous, and it put everybody. It put everybody on watch,

1043
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: everybody on warning. It didn't matter if you were the

1044
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: best player in the room, it didn't matter if you

1045
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: were the fifty third player in the room. Everybody had

1046
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: their job and if you didn't do your job, you

1047
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: got gone. During my time there, Randy Moss got gone.

1048
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 4: Wow.

1049
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 2: And Randy Moss was two seasons departed from one of

1050
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: the best seasons and the NFL wide receiver had ever

1051
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: had ever and he was gone. And so the precedent

1052
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 2: was the precedent. The method was set, it was the

1053
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: Patriot way, and if you didn't do it the right way,

1054
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: you got out of that room. And I think somewhere

1055
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: along the line the Chiefs have lost that whatever that is,

1056
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: whatever it is with championship teams. Now, can they recover, Yeah,

1057
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: but right now they look like they're a drift a

1058
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: little bit. They need to get back to whatever that

1059
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: is that special teams are able to cultivate. You know,

1060
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: for years, the Lakers had it with Kobe for years,

1061
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: the Bulls had it with Jordan for years, the Warriors

1062
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 2: had it with Curry for years. Well, You can't really

1063
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: say that about Lebron's career because he's been a little

1064
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: bit of a you know, a fly by nighter. He'll

1065
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: move to wherever the championships are. Kevin Durant, same thing,

1066
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: but Brady with the Patriots and Mahomes so far with

1067
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, it's been that way. But this year it

1068
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like everybody's bought in and cares as much

1069
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 2: as they have in years past. And I can't put

1070
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: my finger on it, but that's what it looks like

1071
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: from the outside looking in.

1072
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 4: Interesting for me, it just looks like the balls not

1073
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: bouncing in their direction. Trevor Lawrence falls down, gets back

1074
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 4: up and scores.

1075
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: Like that was a nutt he finish at Jacksonville. Yeah,

1076
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: it was.

1077
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Speaker 4: And I'll be honest, that might be the game that

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00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 4: keeps them out. I mean it honestly might because Jacksonville

1079
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: is in the hunt for a wildcard spot and that

1080
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: unlike college football, the head to head does matter and

1081
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 4: the tiebreaker for the Chiefs, Like, that's that's the problem

1082
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 4: right now for the Chiefs. Right They lost to the Bills,

1083
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 4: they lost to the Jags, they lost to the Chargers.

1084
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: Guess who the three wildcard teams right now are in

1085
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 4: the AFC, right, Chargers, Jags, Bills. Yep, like you got

1086
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 4: so now you've got to finish a game in front

1087
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 4: of all three of those teams in order to get

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00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 4: the tiebreaker out of the equation. So I'm not saying

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00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 4: the Chiefs can't run the table. I'm not because they can.

1090
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 4: They can absolutely go eleven and six and be the

1091
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 4: five seed and nobody even like we don't even remember

1092
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 4: this conversation happened. Texans, Chargers, Titans, Broncos Raiders. Wow, I

1093
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 4: think three of those games feel like wins. I think

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00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 4: they beat the Chargers at home in the return matchup.

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00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 4: I think they obviously beat the Titans. God, God, with

1096
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: God forbid they don't. They don't beat the Titans, then

1097
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 4: we got a problem on our heads here Kansas City.

1098
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 4: And obviously they're gonna beat the Raiders here in Vegas

1099
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Speaker 4: in week eighteen. So the two games that are gonna

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00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 4: decide it next Sunday night at home to Houston. Oh man,

1101
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 4: is that a massive game for both teams? That game

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 4: right there is likely a play off game. I think

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00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 4: the loser of that game's out, and then the Broncos

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00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 4: at home. It looks like Christmas night.

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Speaker 1: Whoa boy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you're talking about and this is let's

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00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 4: be honest, guys, let's be honest. The NFL is loving

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Speaker 4: this they've got. Let's say Houston, they beat Houston next Sunday.

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00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: I think they will. I think they win their next

1110
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 4: three and I think they're nine and six heading to

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00:57:55,120 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 4: that game against Denver on Christmas Night. Game Denver could

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00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 4: be thirteen and two at that point. That game on

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00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 4: Christmas Night between the Chiefs and the Broncos is going

1114
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 4: to be like a mini AFC championship game. I love

1115
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 4: that game is going to be awesome, and I hope

1116
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 4: it's nine and six Chiefs against thirteen and two Broncos

1117
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 4: because who baby buckle up for that one.

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00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 3: I think the Broncos are such frauds. I agree, but

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00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: it hasn't shown up yet. I think they have a

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Speaker 3: really high floor, and I think they have a low

1121
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 3: ceiling right that. Their formula high floor, solid defense, great

1122
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 3: offensive line, don't give up sacks, sack the other team's

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Speaker 3: quarterback like more than anybody, like distancing yourself. That formula,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna win a lot of games in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: And that's what they've done. But come playoff time, man,

1126
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 3: you got to bring more offense than they have. So

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00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: I think they have a limited ceiling. But you're right right.

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Speaker 4: That game on Christmas Night could have huge stakes attached

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Speaker 4: to it.

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Speaker 3: I think two super quick points. We got to get

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00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 3: the shit. The ball not bouncing their way, there is

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Speaker 3: something to be said for that, Jared. You think about

1133
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: last year, the ball bouncing their way like Likely's big

1134
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 3: toe is out of bounds. The first game of the season.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, the Broncos have a field goal blocked.

1136
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: Could have been a loss easily. The Raiders fumble a

1137
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: shotgun snap when they're not looking for like, on and

1138
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Speaker 3: on and on and on.

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Speaker 4: They're winning these games.

1140
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Speaker 3: And the game on Thursday against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving

1141
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: George Pickens fumbles. There's nothing but Chiefs around and out

1142
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: of nowhere, here comes Turpin just sliding into like that

1143
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't have happened last year. I don't know how to

1144
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 3: explain it. It just wouldn't have. So it's crazy how

1145
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: that does happen. I was thinking, I'm like, are they

1146
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 3: just mentally spent? You know, they've been in the AFC

1147
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 3: title game nine straight seasons. Is that partially why they're

1148
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 3: just making these errors when they never used to? Like

1149
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 3: maybe at times there might be something to be said

1150
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: for that. But then I go back to Rashi Rice.

1151
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: He drops that pass over the middle.

1152
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Speaker 4: It's like, this is year three.

1153
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Speaker 3: He only played four games last year due to injury.

1154
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: He was suspended for the first six this year. That's

1155
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Speaker 3: not a guy who's just like mentally spent. That's just

1156
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: a guy dropping a ball. That's all it is. So

1157
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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a mixed bag with them, but

1158
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1159
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 3: to be a six and six football team. There are

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Speaker 3: got to calm him down. There was Mega Death playing

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Speaker 3: in the background. We know, we know how big of

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Speaker 3: a fan that Seamus is of Dave Mustain and Megadeath,

1193
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: So we need to just calm him down just a

1194
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 3: little bit, you know, a little breathed in, breathe out

1195
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Speaker 3: some zeb.

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Speaker 2: He's as upset as Steve Sarkeesian is over the Longhorns

1197
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: getting omitted from the CFP rankings for playoff consideration right now.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's banging a drum somewhere for Miami, although I

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Speaker 2: doubt it because I'm sure he's more on the Virginia bandwagon.

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Speaker 4: Right trying to figure out how the state head coach

1201
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 4: is going to be because I have no idea who

1202
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Speaker 4: it's gonna be. I thought it was gonna be Eli Drinkletz,

1203
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, Miszoo gave him a

1204
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Speaker 4: big raise. This is the year that James Franklin gets

1205
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Speaker 4: everyone in college football rays.

1206
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Speaker 3: By the way, how that is correct? How crazy is that?

1207
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 3: Just how the landscape has changed. It's wild with Ni

1208
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,959
Speaker 3: l this this like back years ago, this never would

1209
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Speaker 3: have happened. You've got LSU Florida Penn State Open, and

1210
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 3: you've got Eli Drinkwitz like I'm gonna stay at Missoo.

1211
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 3: You've got Clark Lee saying I'm gonna stay at Vanderbilt

1212
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: right like these guys and he's about to flip the

1213
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Speaker 3: number one quarterback.

1214
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's it's crazy.

1215
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Speaker 3: That's the thing. It's it's a different day and age,

1216
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 3: and you don't have to go to like the quote

1217
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Speaker 3: unquote power schools to be able to recruit, like get transfers,

1218
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Speaker 3: nil money. It's really changed a lot. I've got Seamus

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Speaker 3: to be settled down after Megadeth was playing. Is that correct, Seamus,

1222
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Speaker 3: the metal head that you are. Where's metal in the

1223
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Speaker 3: power rankings for you? Genre wise of music? Seamus, I

1224
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: need to know.

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Speaker 7: I think you'd be surprised it's lower than you think. Big.

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Speaker 3: That's not surprising at all. I would have been surprised

1227
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Speaker 3: if you're like, actually, it cracks my top five.

1228
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Speaker 8: You know, interestingly enough, you're gonna take it up with

1229
01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 8: bo I got I got the phone call and he

1230
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 8: said the phone was on the fritz.

1231
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 7: I didn't hear any music when I came on.

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Speaker 1: Oh I got you?

1233
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't fire you up at all? Here Samus your

1235
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 3: kidding me? Man, I just can't believe this from you.

1236
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 3: It's amazing. Well, listen, are you fired up about your

1237
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 3: Virginia Cavaliers?

1238
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Speaker 2: Here?

1239
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 3: Looks like they should be in the ACC title game?

1240
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,959
Speaker 3: If you're if you're handicapping, who you think is going

1241
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 3: to be in the title game of the a SEC

1242
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 3: when it's all said and done.

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Speaker 4: Who are you betting on here?

1244
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Speaker 7: I mean it's hard not to be fired up after

1245
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 7: that little snippet we just got from phone there, I mean,

1246
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 7: ready to run through a brick wall?

1247
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Speaker 4: There go, there you go.

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Speaker 7: I think, So who's getting done today? I think it's

1249
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Speaker 7: it's winning your in. I think they get there. Now

1250
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 7: you've seen this line has moved down all week. It's

1251
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 7: open ten and a half, eleven and a half some spots,

1252
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 7: but down to seven and a half now. Virginia's down.

1253
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Speaker 7: Cam Robinson the best defensive player they got, so is

1254
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 7: he worth that many points? We'll see, But you know,

1255
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 7: you look at every metric, it should be it should

1256
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 7: be UVa's game to win today and the line says so,

1257
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Speaker 7: But I think it's gonna be UVASMU. We could see

1258
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Speaker 7: some craziness, has I know, I know Georgia techniques of

1259
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Speaker 7: Virginia loss, which, as we've seen in this rivalry game

1260
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Speaker 7: the past twenty five years, I mean, it's always in

1261
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 7: the cards. So I mean it's going to be a

1262
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 7: crazy day in the ACC if either SME or UVA

1263
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Speaker 7: go down. So it should be interesting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how I like. The ACC has

1265
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 4: just been such a mix back this year. I honestly

1266
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 4: don't even want to try to predict it until we

1267
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 4: get like a champion, and then I want to see

1268
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Speaker 4: who that champion is, and then I guess we'll grade

1269
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Speaker 4: it based off of the Miami situation, because is it crazy?

1270
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 4: Is it crazy to assume that Miami actually right now

1271
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Speaker 4: has the best chance to make the cultural playoff in

1272
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Speaker 4: the ACC and it'll only be Miami and the winner

1273
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 4: of the conference champion will be left out in the cold.

1274
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 4: Like that kind of feels like the path we're on

1275
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 4: right now, Seamus.

1276
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 7: Come on, what are we doing here?

1277
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Speaker 1: Ah, there we go.

1278
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 7: This is after all the committee is done to the

1280
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 7: ACC over the last five years. If they take in

1281
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 7: let's just say Virginuine's the ACC championship. Let's compare resumes

1282
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 7: JMU and UVA, who have a common opponents. Let's see Wazoo.

1283
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 7: Both teams beat Wazoo and Louisville. You ve a beat

1284
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 7: Louisville on the road. Jami lost quite two touchdowns. That's it.

1285
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Speaker 7: It's over. Argument's over. Hey, this is ridiculous. If we

1286
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 7: get two G five teams in over an ACC champion.

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Speaker 7: Georgia Tech look pretty pretty fine against the number four

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01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 7: team in the country yesterday. I don't see a Sun

1289
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 7: Belt team doing that against Georgia. I don't see the

1290
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 7: ACC champions getting in. I think it's a fun thing

1291
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 7: to talk about if you went to JMU, but I

1292
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 7: think it's it's going to be an ACC champion.

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01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 2: Hey, you know, returning to the Heisman conversation, we were

1294
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 2: having that cooled off in a major way recently for

1295
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: obvious reasons. Is it Fernando Mendoza's award to run away

1296
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: with now or is it worth putting a little sprinkle

1297
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: on one of these higher value targets somewhere underneath him.

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01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 7: I think Jeremiah Love and Saying for that matter, are

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01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 7: very alive. I think Callia too. If he just like

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01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 7: tucks up a bunch of numbers against Tennessee, Jeremiah Loves

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01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 7: rushing prop today is one hundred and thirty eight and

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01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:39,479
Speaker 7: a half yards.

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01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 3: That's wow, wow, It.

1304
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 7: Is kind of bigd in that Jeremiah Love is going

1305
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 7: to have a huge day to day. And I'm starting,

1306
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 7: you know, social media, You're starting to see a lot

1307
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 7: of clamor for Love to win this award, and you know,

1308
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 7: you tell you can get this to you. They they

1309
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 7: try to Pat Mendoses staffs yesterday. I mean they went

1310
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 7: up big and they just kept running the ball. So

1311
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 7: he didn't have like a huge game to really pad

1312
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 7: those stats, saying we'll see he's got a big opportunity.

1313
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 7: He lights up the board in ann Arbor today. And

1314
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,919
Speaker 7: you know Pavia had a strong showing last year against Kentucky.

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01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 7: I think Vanderbilt, if they're starting to open it up,

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01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 7: I think they might try to, you know, pat some

1317
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 7: Pavia's stats.

1318
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 3: How about what you need today, Seamus. On the bet

1319
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 3: MGM side, you know there are betters out there that

1320
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: like to align themselves with the sports books, right because

1321
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: as Crack says, God protects the sports books, right, So

1322
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 3: what do you need? And the betters out there they

1323
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 3: might need it as well.

1324
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 7: Well. The game with godsmen good to the books. The

1325
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 7: last two days, you know, every NFL dog pashing and

1326
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 7: then we had a huge college day yesterday with Texas

1327
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 7: outright being a far bigger result than I thought it

1328
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 7: was going to be for the book. It's pretty even

1329
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 7: going in that game, but it's gonna be pretty similar,

1330
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 7: as you know as most weekends. We're just gonna need

1331
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 7: dogs today. Michigan definitely would be the best dog to have.

1332
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 7: It's pretty lopsided on on Ohio State. A lot of

1333
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 7: backers just go into the well thinking they can't lose

1334
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 7: another one to Michigan, but you know Auburn is another one.

1335
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 7: Not only would Auburn be great to have outright for

1336
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 7: the book, they would throw an absolute wrench into the

1337
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 7: college football playoffs.

1338
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 4: It would be a disaster for my Alabama over nine

1339
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 4: and a half wins ticket and pretty much my pride

1340
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 4: and sanity on this show, because then Brian would never

1341
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 4: let me hear the end of it.

1342
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 3: If never, never, I will never.

1343
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 4: Be taken seriously on this show ever again. If loses

1344
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 4: to today.

1345
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 8: Serious like a serious idiot god, a serious cloud, which

1346
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 8: is like an oxymoron. I, by the way, jamis I

1347
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 8: am full scent Jeremiah Love Heisman.

1348
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 4: Maybe that'll get Brian back on my side. As I

1349
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 4: just keep touting the Jeremiah Love Heisman. I think he

1350
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 4: is going to go out. He's a hundred. We'll get

1351
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 4: to him prop it up later, but he's gonna have

1352
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 4: a big day. It does appear, though, like when you

1353
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 4: look at the rest of the college football playoff, like

1354
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 4: we're talking about this earlier with Texas and Vandy and

1355
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 4: all these kind of fringe teams, the committee is kind

1356
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 4: of punting and they're just kind of hoping that this

1357
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 4: plays out naturally and organically today and next week. I

1358
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 4: think it will, Like I think Vandy is going to

1359
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 4: win and get in. But where where do you stand

1360
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 4: on the Texas conversation? Like do they still have a

1361
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 4: puncher's chance with three losses?

1362
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 7: I think Texas is more alive than I thought they

1363
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 7: would be like after that game, because now that resume,

1364
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 7: it's a very interesting one because now you already see

1365
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 7: the you know, the SEC propaganda machine in full force

1366
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 7: today with you're gonna tell him to not schedule Ohio

1367
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 7: State at all instan if they played a Cupcake, they'd

1368
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 7: be in and probably right, but I still think they're

1369
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 7: going to need some help, like like a Vanderbilt loss

1370
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 7: would help them out a lot Utah one yesterday which

1371
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 7: wasn't great. A BYU loss would help A pit upset

1372
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 7: over Miami that helps. I mean, Notre Dame seems locked in.

1373
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 7: I don't know if they're going to jump them, but

1374
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 7: you know what IFO you lose is too they have

1375
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 7: a head to head over them. It's just the fact

1376
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 7: they have three losses is kind of holding them back.

1377
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 7: The last thing they need is in Michigan win today.

1378
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 7: If Michigan upset, I think Michigan might just be in

1379
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 7: the playoffs. It's two losses. One is to a top

1380
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 7: ten team right now, and then you know they dropped

1381
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 7: another big tenure. But it's they have a win over

1382
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 7: Ohio State, who seemingly deemed unbeatable this year. I think

1383
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 7: it'd be hard to leave Michigan out ten and two

1384
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:58,879
Speaker 7: with a win over Ohio State.

1385
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: U Oklahoma today, LSU dogs, talk me, talk me off

1386
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: of the taking the dogs with the points here, because

1387
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean, look, obviously we know LSU season has not

1388
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 2: gone the way they wanted. They sent their head coach

1389
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: packing with his fam melly back to wherever they're from.

1390
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 2: Clearly Louisiana was not the place for him. My question though, is,

1391
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,799
Speaker 2: you know, do you think with the Oklahoma Sooners getting

1392
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 2: closer and closer to that college football playoff birth, with

1393
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: LSU really with nothing to lose, just playing for pride

1394
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: at this point, they can keep it close with UH

1395
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: with the Sooners' it's a tough one.

1396
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 7: Personally, I liked Under in that game, but it's really

1397
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 7: tough to gauge with LSU's motivation is for this game.

1398
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 7: They're seven and four, they're already into a bowl game.

1399
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 7: They got to go on the road to Norman where

1400
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 7: Oklahoma needs to a win this game first, and they

1401
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 7: might be going for style points too. Trying to run

1402
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 7: this up better. Seemed to believe that we've taken a

1403
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 7: majority of Oklahoma minus ten and a half money here

1404
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 7: some at minus ten by and a half point down.

1405
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 7: I have a hard time getting on with old missed

1406
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 7: here with an interim coach on the road. You're you're

1407
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 7: in the bowl game already. We'll see how it goes.

1408
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 7: I just think Oklahoma's motivation just might be more of

1409
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 7: the play here.

1410
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 3: All right, Seamus, time for your special? What do you

1411
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 3: have for the Shamous Special today?

1412
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've always picked the UVA Virginia Tech game. I

1413
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 7: think the last three years i've been on this show.

1414
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 7: I'm not making that mistake again. I've never worked out

1415
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 7: for Virginia, but yeah, I've I've talked a lot of

1416
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 7: craft about this Wisconsin football program and Luke Fickel as

1417
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 7: recently as last week. They're only two and a half

1418
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 7: points on the road in Minnesota today. That was the

1419
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 7: line I woke up looking at like that looks very interesting.

1420
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 7: I like Wisconsin mines two and a half. They had

1421
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 7: a nice little win last week up sitting Illinois. It

1422
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 7: looks like they haven't given up them this season yet.

1423
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 7: And you know, them laying points on the road tells

1424
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 7: me it feels like they're the side here. So Wisconsin

1425
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 7: mine is two and a half.

1426
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 4: Okay, all right?

1427
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 3: Interesting, I've you know I've heard of Wisconsin, you know

1428
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: what I mean, like the Seamous Special Sometimes I never

1429
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 3: heard of them.

1430
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, all right, like a good one right there, All.

1431
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: Right, Seamous good stuff as always, buddy, enjoyed the day.

1432
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 3: Good luck to your Virginia squad and we'll catch you soon.

1433
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 7: Enjoy the games, guys. Go who's all right?

1434
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: You doo? There?

1435
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,960
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Speaker 4: Good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Could come back?

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Speaker 1: Prop it up plays.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 3: We're breaking the law and doing prop it up, and

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01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 3: we're doing a couple of things at the same time. Jared,

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01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 3: we start with you, what's something you like the I.

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01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 4: Fought the law and the law one that's one of

1476
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 4: my favorites. I'm gonna go Jeremiah Love over rushing yards here, guys,

1477
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep this as simple as possible. He First

1478
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 4: of all, this is the late late, late, late late

1479
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 4: game out there on the farm or any wait, is

1480
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 4: that cal or is at Stanford? That's the farm. I

1481
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 4: forget which one. Either way, it's a late game out

1482
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 4: there in California. And I think this will this number

1483
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 4: will continue to get bet up throughout the day.

1484
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 7: Right.

1485
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 4: We talk about this a lot, I'm sure you guys

1486
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 4: do on the Sunday Show with the props and crack.

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01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 4: The overs tend to get bet up pretty high. So

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01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 4: you want to bet the over bett early, you want

1489
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 4: to bet the under bet right before kick. We're betting

1490
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 4: the over here with Jeremiah Love. He needs a buck

1491
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 4: thirty two to break the all time record. First of all,

1492
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 4: Like that's just right out of the gate. There's no

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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 4: way he doesn't get to one thirty two today, Like

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01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 4: they will keep feeding him the rock to get him

1495
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 4: that record.

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01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 2: Two.

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01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 4: There is the Heisman consideration here, and I think the

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01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 4: Diego pavia A narrative is interesting with his overs today.

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01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 4: But I think Jeremiah Love, they really like he did

1500
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 4: he struck the pos last week. That tells you how

1501
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 4: he feels about this race. And I think they are

1502
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 4: going to feed him like a absolute beast today. So

1503
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 4: give me all the Jeremiah Love props over one thirty

1504
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 4: eight and a half rushing yards for me.

1505
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:44,520
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go with Bryce Underwood, Michigan quarterback

1506
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 2: in this huge rivalry matchup against Ohio State. Here's the

1507
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,440
Speaker 2: reason why Michigan dogged by ten. Michigan obviously highly successful

1508
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 2: in this game. Here, here's here's my guess, right, Ohio

1509
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: State wins this game. Michigan's trailing this game, and so

1510
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood he's gonna have to throw the football a

1511
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 2: good amount. So give me Underwood over the one hundred

1512
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 2: and fifty six and a half yard prop. I think

1513
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 2: he sales passed that now. Ohio States defense obviously incredible.

1514
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 2: They're holding teams to less than two hundred ten yards

1515
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 2: total on the season on average. They haven't played a

1516
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: very strong schedule. Michigan's on a little bit of a keater,

1517
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: and Bryce Underwood has averaged over two hundred sixty yards

1518
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: per game through the air. So I like this Underwood

1519
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: prop to go over, and it might sail pass, especially

1520
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 2: if Michigan's playing catchup ball game even in the snow.

1521
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have to air it out a

1522
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: bunch against a talented Ohio State secondary.

1523
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 3: And over On Underwood I like that, you know.

1524
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Right, I didn't catch that. Yeah, very good.

1525
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 3: We'll call him Overwood after today's game.

1526
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he's cleared the line four of five times

1527
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 2: this season. Actually, I have get the staff for you

1528
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: later on, but you go, Brian.

1529
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna take Mason Hinschel. He's the Pitt quarterback.

1530
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go under two forty three and a half

1531
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 3: passing yards against Miami. I like him a lot. He's

1532
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 3: reached three hundred passing yards a number of times. I

1533
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 3: just think against this Miami pass rush, I just saw

1534
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 3: the blueprint play out a couple of weeks ago. Notre

1535
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 3: Dame's pass rush gave Pitt's offense all kinds of problems.

1536
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 3: They didn't have the same passing attack at all. He

1537
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 3: threw for like a buck thirty two against Notre Dame,

1538
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 3: like way way way under his passing yardage prop. I

1539
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 3: just see the same thing playing out with Miami today.

1540
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 3: Miami's got a nasty pass rush. I think it's gonna

1541
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 3: overwhelm Pitt's offensive line, And even though I like Hinchel

1542
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 3: a lot, I just don't think he's gonna have the

1543
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 3: time that he needs to dice up Miami secondary. The

1544
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 3: worry is if they're behind by a decent amount or

1545
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,759
Speaker 3: behind by anything late, he's gonna have to be throwing

1546
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 3: it and throwing it. So it's a little bit dangerous,

1547
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 3: but Colder can maybe a little snow flurry action over here.

1548
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 3: Ridiculous pass rush, I think it points to the under.

1549
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go under on Hinschel under two forty three

1550
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 3: and a half.

1551
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 4: I like it. Okay, game script scares me. Sorry, go ahead.

1552
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say. Underwood has cleared the line

1553
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 2: he's facing here at home four of his past five

1554
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 2: home games. So it feels good. It feels good on

1555
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: the the Overwood prediction today for the mission.

1556
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 3: Over Bryce Overwood. There you go, who's saying it feels good?

1557
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 3: I don't know who's saying that, but that's what just saying.

1558
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 2: Back here.

1559
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 3: I come up next. It's not gonna happen again, right, Oh?

1560
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,600
Speaker 3: What is going on? Welcome in Happy Saturday. To you,

1561
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 3: we are one hour away from kickoff. That is a

1562
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 3: beautiful thing. We are one hour away from kickoff of

1563
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 3: the Ohio State Michigan game. With a losing streak finally

1564
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 3: come to an end for the buck Eyes. This is

1565
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 3: an amazing stat. So the last last four years, Ohio

1566
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 3: State is zero to four against Michigan, right, oh four

1567
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 3: against everybody else not named Michigan. In that same span,

1568
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 3: they are fifty eight and four.

1569
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 4: Isn't that amazing?

1570
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,719
Speaker 3: So fifty eight and eight over the last four years,

1571
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 3: and four of those eight losses have come against Michigan.

1572
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 4: That's mind blowing.

1573
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 3: When they they're fresh off winning a title, fresh off

1574
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 3: deep playoff runs, you know they.

1575
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 4: Can't beat Michigan.

1576
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 3: It can't happen again, right, Like, they have to win

1577
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 3: this game now, you know me, I have said that

1578
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 3: I think Ohio State's overrated this year. That's not to

1579
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 3: say I think they stink. What overrated means is the

1580
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 3: reputation is greater than the reality. So when they're talked about.

1581
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 3: Seamus even said at last hour, he was like, wow,

1582
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 3: you know, Ohio State's borderline unbeatable, or at least thought

1583
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 3: to be.

1584
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 4: And it's like based on what they beat Texas. That's it.

1585
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 3: That's their whole resume. They've played nobody all year, with

1586
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 3: one exception, that being the Longhorns in the first game

1587
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: of the season. They're not battle tested. This Thatt's crazy too.

1588
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 3: Julian say in the Ohio State quarterback he's only thrown

1589
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 3: twenty five passes in the fourth quarter this season. They're

1590
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 3: blowing teams out left and right. So if it's a

1591
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:19,480
Speaker 3: close game.

1592
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 4: Who knows.

1593
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that Ohio State can't function. It's just

1594
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 3: they're not experienced in those high leverage spots, those nip

1595
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 3: and tuck, nail bider type scenarios. So I think that's

1596
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 3: job one for Michigan today, Rich is can Michigan make

1597
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 3: it a fourth quarter game and force Ohio State to

1598
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 3: execute when it's crunch time because they haven't had to

1599
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 3: pretty much this whole season.

1600
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been very protective and rightfully so, and smartly

1601
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: of Julian saying and putting too much of the game

1602
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 2: script on him. And he's young, and he's inexperienced, and

1603
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 2: he's more experienced now than he was at the beginning

1604
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: of the season, and he is in Heisman consideration for reason,

1605
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 2: he's played well and he's arguably the best team in

1606
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: the country. Here's here's here's the way you do that.

1607
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 2: You have to find a way to get to them.

1608
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: You have to find a way to to rattle his

1609
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 2: gay his cage early in the game. And the best

1610
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: way to do that is to win on early downs.

1611
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 2: No easy feat against an Ohio State rushing offense that's

1612
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: pretty good, but you gotta find a way to knock

1613
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: them off schedule. That is the best game script to

1614
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: get a good team or a better team behind the

1615
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 2: eight ball is getting them into third and six plus

1616
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 2: situations consistently. If you extend drives on Ohio State and

1617
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 2: you force them into situations where they need to throw

1618
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 2: the football seven eight yards to convert first downs. If

1619
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 2: you force them into these longer twelve play drives to

1620
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: score three points or seven instead of being able to

1621
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: quick strike you and have an explosive play downfield or

1622
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 2: in the run game, and shortened drives to four or

1623
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 2: five plays to get scores, well, you're not gonna beat them.

1624
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 2: You're just you're not even gonna hang with them if

1625
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: you're Michigan. So that is going to be the task.

1626
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: If I was repping anything, it was aggressiveness on first

1627
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 2: and second down against Ohio State Buckeyes, which means that

1628
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: you got to roll the dice a couple of times

1629
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: and you will get burned a couple of times. There

1630
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 2: will be chunk plays, but you have to make Ohio

1631
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: State earn third down conversions if you're going to push

1632
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: Julian Saying into the fourth quarter where he actually has

1633
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: to throw the football. The other part of this game

1634
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 2: that is not quantifiable, there will be no stat to

1635
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 2: look up. This, this metric or this, this data point

1636
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 2: is big game jitters, rivalry jitters, the nervousness that a

1637
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 2: lot of these players who are involved in this game

1638
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 2: are going to be playing with Michigan obviously going to

1639
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: play be playing a lot looser than Ohio State because

1640
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: of obvious reasons. Ohio State has a lot more to

1641
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: lose in terms of the reputation department than the Michigan does.

1642
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 2: Even though Michigan's on a low key heater. Right now,

1643
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 2: here's the reality of the situation. Though this is Michigan's

1644
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 2: super Bowl, this is it. This is the game that

1645
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: matters to most of them this season. Ohio State's got

1646
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 2: much bigger things in the vantage point through the windshield.

1647
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 2: Michigan right now is going to be writing the PostScript

1648
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: on their season going to whatever bowl they get into.

1649
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 2: They've got to win this game if they're going to

1650
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: be able to look at this as even something that

1651
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 2: resembles a successful season. So it's going to be the

1652
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: onus as usual over the past handful of years. Is

1653
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: going to be on Ohio State to play to the colberd.

1654
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 2: They've been playing all season long to get the victory,

1655
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 2: and they're going to be serious nerves, especially on that

1656
01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: side of this matchup.

1657
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 4: Is there any other program in the country where you

1658
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 4: can win the national championship but if you lose to Michigan,

1659
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 4: it's still an unsuccessful season. It's amazing.

1660
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 3: It still blows in my mind. It's such a bad take.

1661
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,799
Speaker 3: It's like, it's crazy to me, you would rather beat

1662
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 3: Michigan than win a national championship.

1663
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 4: That is what And I'm again I'm not an Ohio

1664
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 4: State fan, so I can't speak from this angle, but

1665
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 4: from the Ohio State fans I talk to, yes, it's

1666
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 4: insanct that's exactly how they feel.

1667
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 3: That to me, Jared is you're preferring to win the

1668
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 3: battle and you'd rather.

1669
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 4: Lose the war. Wow, that's insanity to me. It doesn't

1670
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 4: make sense. But that's the beauty, and that's the beauty,

1671
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 4: and that's the carnage, and that's the dance we do

1672
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 4: in college football. That's how much of these games met.

1673
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 4: It's wild.

1674
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 2: It really is.

1675
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 4: The irony of all of this is if Oregon loses

1676
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 4: to Washington today, which is possible, and Michigan wins, we

1677
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 4: would get Ohio State Michigan in the Big Ten title

1678
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 4: game now week. That would be freakin' awesome. I hope

1679
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 4: that happens, just for the drama of that matchup, which

1680
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 4: would be amazing. I do think this Ohio State offense

1681
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 4: is a little bit different than they were last year.

1682
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 4: Last year, they were really good running it, and they

1683
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 4: weren't as efficient throwing it, and we thought there was

1684
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 4: some balance maybe and they were going to win the

1685
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. They didn't win the line of scrimmage.

1686
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 4: And I don't think if I think if they lose

1687
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage again this year, I think they

1688
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 4: are in danger of losing this game.

1689
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 2: Now.

1690
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 4: Bo Jackson's come on strong lately, he's a freshman, not

1691
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 4: that bo Jacks at a different one. He's not coming

1692
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 4: out of retirement. But he's been really good lately. His

1693
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 4: rushing yards prop is in the high seventies today, which

1694
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 4: again telling you that they think he's going to be

1695
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 4: a factor in this game. You've got People's and Donaldson

1696
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 4: and Jackson, so you've got some dudes that can run

1697
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 4: it for Ohio State. But obviously the big ticket item

1698
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 4: is the offense skill position, guys on the outside throwing

1699
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 4: it down the field. Was saying, and Smith and Tate Nennis,

1700
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 4: if I'm Michigan right, wink Martindale's defense they like the blitz.

1701
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 4: I think they're really good off the edge. Barnum and

1702
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 4: Moore and Ray Shawn Benny and Ernest Housman like, these

1703
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 4: are really good linebackers and edge rushers. And I do

1704
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 4: think Michigan's defense is going to be a factor in

1705
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 4: this game. It's the ken Ohio State play with balance

1706
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 4: on offense. And is Michigan again for a fourth, fifth second,

1707
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 4: if you're going to win the line of scrimmage and

1708
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 4: make this a one dimensional game for Julian saying, I

1709
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 4: think that makes life on him a lot harder. On

1710
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 4: the other side, we know Michigan wants to run it.

1711
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 4: They're a top ten run rate team in the Power

1712
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 4: for They're really good on both lines. They're a little

1713
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 4: banged up. Justice Haynes out with foot surgery. The backup

1714
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 4: Jordan Marshall also was out last week with a shoulder injury.

1715
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 4: So how effective will Michigan be running it? To Rich's

1716
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 4: prop coming up that we had in our last segment,

1717
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 4: I do think there is a little bit of an

1718
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 4: upside to Michigan's passing game lately. Andrew marsh has been

1719
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 4: coming on really strong. Ohio State will likely stack the

1720
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 4: box and force Underwood to throw it, So the question

1721
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 4: is can he complete those passes downfield. That's going to

1722
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 4: be the difference in the game. If Bryce Underwood can

1723
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 4: step up and grow up and make some throws down

1724
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 4: the field and loosen up that Ohio State front, I

1725
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 4: think Michigan will be in this game. But Caden Curry,

1726
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 4: Kenyata Jackson, Sunny Styles, Alvo Reese like these are first

1727
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 4: rounders for Ohio State. Defensively, it is not going to

1728
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 4: be easy sledding out there for the Michigan offense today.

1729
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's The last part is to me, how this

1730
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 3: game breaks down is can Michigan run the ball effectively

1731
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 3: because that's what they want to do, and based on that,

1732
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 3: how much success they have, how much success they don't have. Well,

1733
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 3: then Bryce Underwood he's going to make up the difference.

1734
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 3: Can he make the necessary amount of plays based on

1735
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 3: what the running game is or isn't doing. And that's

1736
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 3: the way it's going to play out for Michigan. How

1737
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 3: much can the running game take away from Underwood's responsibilities

1738
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 3: or how much does the lack of running game like

1739
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 3: put a lot more responsibilities onto his plate. That's the

1740
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 3: only way it's going to go for Michigan's offense.

1741
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Look, here's the reality of this game. I think.

1742
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 2: I do think Ohio State wins this one, even though

1743
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: we know what the past presents, and I think that

1744
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 2: Michigan is going to have to put the ball there

1745
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 2: as a result. But that's just what I think, you

1746
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like any prediction you come up

1747
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 2: with before a game actually takes place, Like we know

1748
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: from many times watching college football, professional football, this sport

1749
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 2: in general. The reason why it's so maddening is because

1750
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 2: even when something makes plenty of sense on the outset,

1751
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,799
Speaker 2: it has no bearing on what actually is going to happen.

1752
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 2: The ball shaped funny, it bounces funny directions. You know,

1753
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: one player can ruin a play for a team's chances

1754
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 2: to have success on any given play of the game,

1755
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 2: and you're relying on eleven people on the field at

1756
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 2: the same time. It's it's a crazy sport. So I

1757
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 2: say this on the outset with some level of hesitance

1758
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 2: that I think that this is the way it's gonna go.

1759
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,640
Speaker 2: If I had to put money on a prop like

1760
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 2: we just did in our segment, I like the over

1761
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 2: on Underwood. But the reality is when the bullets get

1762
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:24,519
Speaker 2: flying for real and and this game gets underway, I mean,

1763
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 2: what if Michigan gets on an early tear, they steal

1764
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 2: a couple of turnovers, and they have a two score lead,

1765
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 2: and they're preserving it by running the football and having

1766
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 2: long drawn out drives. All of a sudden, my over

1767
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 2: bet starts looking pretty bad because if the run game's work,

1768
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 2: and why get away from it? And that and that's

1769
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: but that's how this game has played. How many times

1770
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,919
Speaker 2: has it gone completely in the antithesis of what everybody

1771
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 2: thinks because it's a true rivalry matchup. So you know,

1772
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,600
Speaker 2: I know that it's such a cliche that emotions do

1773
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 2: get in the way of performances, but it's true. It's true.

1774
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 2: These games matter. A lot of these kids on that

1775
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 2: roster who play for the Wolverines are from the Great

1776
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 2: State of Michigan, and a lot of the players on

1777
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 2: that Buckeye's roster they're from the great State of Ohio

1778
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 2: and this matters to them. And so there's gonna be

1779
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 2: a lot of nerves entering this game. So you can

1780
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 2: make any prediction you want on the outside looking in,

1781
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 2: but we won't know until probably after the first quarter

1782
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 2: what direction this game is heading. My best g is

1783
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 2: Michigan's trailing and they got to make up some in

1784
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 2: the second half and they're gonna have to air it out.

1785
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 2: But I mean, honestly, who knows. Who knows? This is

1786
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 2: such a haphazard game to try a handicap.

1787
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 4: Would I would bank on Michigan being more run heavy,

1788
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 4: I really would. I would be surprised if they just

1789
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 4: let Underwood rip it today. Yeah, I mean, if you

1790
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 4: look at their games this year. Now, to be fair, hastaate,

1791
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 4: it's got a top ten run defense, So I'm not

1792
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 4: saying it's gonna be easy. But you look at this

1793
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 4: Michigan team. They've run for at least one hundred and

1794
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 4: seventy five yards and nine of the eleven games this

1795
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 4: year and the only two games that they were held

1796
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 4: to under one seventy five Oklahoma and USC and they

1797
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 4: lost both of those games. So are you gonna go

1798
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:20,000
Speaker 4: with the path of least resistance, which is probably under

1799
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 4: throwing it down the field? Like that's to me where

1800
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 4: the better matchups will likely be. Because Ohio State again

1801
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 4: is gonna stack the box. They've held seven of their

1802
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 4: eleven opponents to under one hundred yards this year. Like

1803
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 4: that's what they do. They hold opponents to under one

1804
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 4: hundred yards rushing, they do it very very well. Not

1805
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 4: a single team all years run for over one to

1806
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 4: seventy So that to me is gonna be the game

1807
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 4: within the game. If Michigan can figure out a way

1808
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 4: to run the ball and take the pressure off Underwood

1809
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 4: and then utilize the passing game, I think that's the

1810
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 4: path they will go based on the line movement, and

1811
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 4: it kind of seems like Michigan's getting a little bit

1812
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 4: of love here this morning, come and seeing it come

1813
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 4: off to ten down to nine and a half, despite

1814
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 4: the fact that the entire world based on the narrative,

1815
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 4: right everyone, everyone who's thinking, And if you're listening out

1816
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 4: there on the radio this morning and you're like, there's

1817
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 4: no way Ohio State can lose again, that is the

1818
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 4: gamblers fallacy. There is a way if you walk up

1819
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 4: to a let's say that, and I've explained this before,

1820
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 4: I'll explain it again. Like, let's say that coin flipping

1821
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 4: became a bet you could make in a casino and

1822
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 4: you walked up to the coin flip table at you know,

1823
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 4: MGM Grand and you saw the little monitor next to

1824
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,520
Speaker 4: the you know, coin flipper, and it said ten consecutive

1825
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 4: flips have gone tails or I guess in this case

1826
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 4: with Michigan and Ohio State, even though the games weren't

1827
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 4: coin flips, four consecutive flips have landed go blue. What

1828
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 4: are you gonna bet on the next flip? You're gonna

1829
01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 4: bet Ohio State. There's no way that the next one

1830
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 4: can be Michigan again. It's the same odds as it

1831
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:05,839
Speaker 4: was before. It's the same stinking odds. The prior results

1832
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 4: are irrelevant to today's game, and it's hard for the

1833
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 4: average gambler to get that out of their mind. That's

1834
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 4: why it's called the gambler's fallacy. But yes, there is

1835
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,600
Speaker 4: absolutely a path for Michigan not only to cover this

1836
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 4: game today, but to win.

1837
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 2: Well.

1838
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 3: Hey, man, if i'm Ohio State defensive coordinator Matt Patricia,

1839
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 3: my focus is on slowing down the running Game's that's

1840
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 3: job one, two, three, maybe four and five is slowed

1841
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 3: down the Michigan running game because that's what they're built on.

1842
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 3: That's their identity. It's the old Belichick thing. Don't get

1843
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,799
Speaker 3: beaten by an opponent when they're doing what they do best,

1844
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 3: you know. So you got to slow down the running game.

1845
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 3: And if Bryce Underwood beats me, if he just carves

1846
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 3: me up, I'm betting that he doesn't. You know, if

1847
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 3: he does, I'll tip my cap. I'm not gonna like

1848
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 3: have no safeties on the field and like stack the

1849
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 3: box like that. I'm gonna have some respect for him.

1850
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 4: But I mean, that is.

1851
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 3: What gets Michigan going, is the running game. By the way,

1852
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 3: there's an NFL note to pass along this is I

1853
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 3: think it is terrible news. This is a big deal

1854
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 3: for the Detroit Lions. Frank Ragnow was coming out of retirement.

1855
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 3: He's going to stabilize that interior offensive line. Adam Schefter

1856
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 3: just tweeted Frank Ragnow failed as physical and will not

1857
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 3: play this season for the Lions. So that's on the

1858
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 3: heels of losing at home on Thanksgiving to the Packers,

1859
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 3: and now what seemed to be a nice shot in

1860
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 3: the arm with Ragnow coming out of retirement, that's not

1861
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 3: going to happen, as it turns out.

1862
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 4: So a tough deal for the Lions right there. What

1863
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 4: do you think he failed? What do you think he failed?

1864
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:37,040
Speaker 2: Right?

1865
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,879
Speaker 4: You've taken these physicles before. I'm curious.

1866
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 2: Well, well, it says in the tweet that it was

1867
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 2: a great three hamstring strain, which says to me that

1868
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 2: what happened was his agent asked him, hey, Frank, you

1869
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: still ready to go any way? I could be ready

1870
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 2: in two weeks. I mean, give me a second to

1871
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 2: get my cardio back up. And he started running some

1872
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 2: sprints and he started getting himself in shape, suffered an injury,

1873
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 2: and then went in and was probably honest with the

1874
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,799
Speaker 2: doctors and said, look, you know, I mean, I'm okay.

1875
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 2: To go, but I tweaked my hammy a little bit,

1876
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 2: and they probably looked at it and went on, you know,

1877
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 2: on second thought, Frank like, we can't, we can't risk it.

1878
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 2: We can't. We can't waste the roster spot and then

1879
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,759
Speaker 2: have somebody else on the IR So we're sorry, buddy,

1880
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 2: we can't resign you right now. And that and then

1881
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 2: it was probably a gentleman's handstake and he left the facility.

1882
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 2: But that's a tough draw for him because it's gonna

1883
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 2: be a nice paycheck and potentially a playoff run and

1884
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 2: a nice PostScript to his career. It's a tough deal

1885
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 2: for the Lions, be ye man, oh man, they need

1886
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 2: help up front. They do.

1887
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 3: Like Jared Goff is a fish out of water when

1888
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 3: he's facing a dude pass rush. His numbers are great

1889
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 3: when he's unpressured, like freaking awful when he is pressured.

1890
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 3: And I know there's gonna be a difference with every

1891
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 3: quarterback between pressured and unpressured. It's to the extreme with Gough,

1892
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:03,120
Speaker 3: he's bad when pressured. So getting ragged now looked like

1893
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 3: a big deal and that's not gonna happen now, all right,

1894
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 3: We've got Rich Orenberger, former Penn State All American, former

1895
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Speaker 3: NFL offensive lineman, breaking down current NFL offensive lineman. Hi,

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1919
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Speaker 2: That's right.

1920
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 3: Motorhead, that's right. You ever get ready for a game

1921
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:27,120
Speaker 3: to some motorhead there?

1922
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 2: Rich Uh? Yeah, I probably had Ace of Spades on

1923
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 2: at one.

1924
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:35,639
Speaker 1: Theades.

1925
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 2: That's right. Very good, love it.

1926
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 3: Alex is doing a tremendous job here today. Very fun

1927
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 3: to hang out with him today. All right, we got

1928
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 3: number six Oregon at Washington. Oregon is a seven point

1929
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 3: favorite as we speak. This line is fluctuated a little

1930
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 3: bit like seven in the hook to like six in

1931
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 3: the hook. Now we're at seven, we're at a flat seven.

1932
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 3: And I've got some good news bad news for Washington

1933
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 3: trying to pull the upset. How about this. Against lesser defenses,

1934
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 3: they have carved them up, averaging over forty points per game,

1935
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 3: but against good defenses, not the same scenario. And they're

1936
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 3: facing a good Ducks defense today. So that's the first

1937
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 3: part of this is how much offense is Washington going

1938
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 3: to be able to generate? The Ducks Still some injury

1939
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 3: concerns over here right, the center is going to be out.

1940
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 3: You got some wide receivers that are banged up, gutting

1941
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 3: through it the whole thing. So the injury bug maybe,

1942
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a concern. On the road, tough place

1943
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 3: to play. But I think for me, at least, it

1944
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 3: starts with Washington's offense. How much are they going to

1945
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 3: be able to score? How much are they going to

1946
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 3: be able to generate against a really good Ducks defense.

1947
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 2: I think this this game could come down to the wire.

1948
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 2: I think I think Fish is actually a pretty good

1949
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 2: coach when he's an underdog in games. Overall, he does

1950
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 2: a pretty good job motivating his teams. And then you

1951
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 2: look at just the way the way Washington has played,

1952
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:14,840
Speaker 2: They've they've gone under the radar more than just about

1953
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 2: any team playing FBS football in a major conference this season.

1954
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 2: They they're not a great team. I don't think they

1955
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 2: do anything that blows you away on paper, but they

1956
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,120
Speaker 2: they can keep it close with good competition and have

1957
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 2: this season. I think they put a good scare into Oregon.

1958
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 2: I'd be very willing, in fact, this may come up

1959
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,679
Speaker 2: in just a little bit here on rap Fire. I'd

1960
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 2: be very willing to take the points here because I'm

1961
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 2: not saying I'm not a believer in Organ, but I

1962
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 2: don't think Oregon. You want to talk about overrated teams

1963
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 2: this season.

1964
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,519
Speaker 4: Careful, Jared might come after you. I don't know.

1965
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, like, like your definition of an

1966
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 2: overrated team earlier in the show, Brian is accurate. Where

1967
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 2: you hear the national media and the chatter and you

1968
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 2: watch the games and you're like, something's not aligning here.

1969
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people are assuming the

1970
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 2: Ducks are a lot better than they are and I'm

1971
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 2: telling you this is gonna be a close game.

1972
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, I'll be honest. I think in general, the

1973
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 4: teams that we think are on the perch, and I'll

1974
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 4: put Alabama on that category too. Listen, I'm not blind

1975
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 4: to the fact that they haven't played well recently. I

1976
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 4: mean they have it, and Organ's also on that list.

1977
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 4: I actually think if Orgon loses this game, they're out.

1978
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 4: They're not making the playoff. Their resume is not that

1979
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 4: not that sexy this year, And this will be recency

1980
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:47,160
Speaker 4: bias matters. Again. We are grading these teams from the

1981
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 4: human eye, the human brain. It defaults to what we

1982
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 4: last saw. So if Oregon goes up to I think

1983
01:42:56,360 --> 01:43:00,240
Speaker 4: they're playing this game in Seattle and stinks one up, yeah,

1984
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 4: I would not be shocked if they get left out

1985
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 4: of the field. That being said, this offense is very dangerous.

1986
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:09,960
Speaker 4: I think Jonah Coleman coming back gives me some hope.

1987
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 4: But I actually got under on his rushing prop because

1988
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 4: when it opened at thirty eight and a half and

1989
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 4: I was like, man, that's like really low for Jonah Coleman,

1990
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 4: And what it told me was he's not fully healthy

1991
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 4: right and he injured his knee against Wisconsin the game

1992
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 4: they lost, and he came back last week and had

1993
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 4: four carries, assuming they were trying to get him fresh

1994
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:35,559
Speaker 4: for this game. But that's not a good recipe a

1995
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 4: banged up knee coming off a game where he had

1996
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,919
Speaker 4: four carries, and now you got to face Oregon's defense,

1997
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 4: which is the I would say one of the best

1998
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 4: defenses in the country at preventing explosives. They only allowed

1999
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 4: sixty five yards on the ground last week to USC

2000
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 4: And I love this Washington offense again. I think they

2001
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 4: have some ability to push the ball down the field

2002
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 4: a little bit with de Mon william But let's be honest,

2003
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 4: USC's offense is better and Jade Miyob is having a

2004
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 4: better year than Demon Williams. So if you're able to

2005
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 4: hold USC's offense to sixty five yards rushing when you

2006
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 4: got to deal with Mikay Lemon and Jacobi Lane and

2007
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:16,240
Speaker 4: all these receivers, what do you think Oregan's defense is

2008
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 4: gonna do to Washington's offense in this game? So I

2009
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 4: think that's the matchup where Oregon has a decisive edge

2010
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 4: in this game. I think their defense is very underrated

2011
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,719
Speaker 4: and they are fantastic at preventing explosives. On the other side,

2012
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 4: Oregon's offense has been a little inconsistent. We know Dante

2013
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 4: Moore is great, but the offensive line. Brian mentioned the center,

2014
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna try to pronounce his name. Actually

2015
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:41,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try Ia Panee La Lulu. Maybe I got

2016
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 4: a close who knows? Yeah, yeah, there we go. And

2017
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 4: both both tackles World and Harky are also banged up,

2018
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 4: so you got the whole offensive line a little nicked up.

2019
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 4: But Washington's defense doesn't really get into you that much.

2020
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 4: Their numbers are average, So I still think even despite

2021
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 4: the fact that they're banged up. Oregon can control the

2022
01:44:57,640 --> 01:45:00,040
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage in this game, and the real the

2023
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 4: key for me is how that Oregon defense clamps down

2024
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 4: on the Washington offense.

2025
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 3: That's the question for me too, is we were talking

2026
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 3: about Michigan against Ohio State. Michigan's identity is running the football,

2027
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:14,880
Speaker 3: and we don't think of Oregon the same way because

2028
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 3: they can throw it right. Dante More can throw it

2029
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 3: all over the place, so they're not as reliant on

2030
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 3: the running game. But they've got three dudes. They give

2031
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 3: carries to, you know, over and over and over again, repeatedly,

2032
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:30,599
Speaker 3: and they like to control games with the running game.

2033
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 3: So I think that's where it starts for Washington's defense

2034
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 3: is trying to get into that running game, trying to

2035
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 3: slow that down and listen, Dante More can still carve

2036
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 3: you up pretty good, but I would rather they're not balanced.

2037
01:45:44,080 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 3: They're more so one dimensional. They're not able to rely

2038
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 3: on a consistent running game. I think that's when Oregon

2039
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,799
Speaker 3: is really really tough to deal with. So Washington's rush defense,

2040
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 3: I think is a big deal in the game.

2041
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 2: Now.

2042
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 3: We've been getting along great so far today, so let's

2043
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 3: change all of that. We get into our next game.

2044
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:04,719
Speaker 3: Here with the number ten ranked fools gold Alabama Crimson

2045
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 3: tied at least in my estimation against war Eagle the

2046
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:11,640
Speaker 3: Auburn Tigers. Alabama five and a half point road favorites

2047
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 3: total is forty six and a half. I mean, for me,

2048
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 3: the first part of this is Alabama's running game is

2049
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 3: gonna do nothing today against Auburn, So it's gonna be

2050
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 3: the same thing. It's gonna be Ty Simpson. Can Ty

2051
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 3: Simpson generate enough offense? It's weird with Auburn. They've got

2052
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 3: a really good pass rush, but they're ninety third in

2053
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:34,200
Speaker 3: terms of yards allowed per drop back. So Ty Simpson

2054
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 3: is capable of having a lot of success. I call

2055
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:41,759
Speaker 3: him college football's Jared goff Right, and it's not quite

2056
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 3: to the extreme of GoF where his numbers between being

2057
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 3: pressured and unpressured are drastically different. But you see Ty

2058
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 3: Simpson clean pocket, he is nasty, but when he's got

2059
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:57,400
Speaker 3: a little pressure, like someone in his face, not as nasty.

2060
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:01,639
Speaker 3: So really interesting to see how he handles this Auburn defense.

2061
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 3: If that pass rush is routinely pressuring him.

2062
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think one of the reasons why

2063
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:14,560
Speaker 2: I don't I don't love your full appraisal of Alabama

2064
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 2: this season, Brian, because there were times where I think,

2065
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 2: in defense of your point that they're overrated this year,

2066
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 2: which I can see an argument for in certain cases,

2067
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 2: you would even like go as far to say, I

2068
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:32,719
Speaker 2: just don't think they're a great football team. And that's

2069
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 2: where I draw the line a little bit. Now they

2070
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 2: lose this game, this opinion can change, and obviously results

2071
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 2: change opinions.

2072
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 3: Then you'll finally be on the right side. Huh, you'll

2073
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 3: see it after the fact.

2074
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think. I don't think there's a right side.

2075
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:49,719
Speaker 2: I don't think you can look into a crystal ball

2076
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 2: and say like, I'm on the right side because my

2077
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 2: crystal ball says this, because I'm not talking about the future.

2078
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the data. I'm talking about what we've

2079
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 2: seen to this point in the season. Alabamas played a

2080
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 2: hard schedule and they've looked great through most of this season.

2081
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 2: So in my opinion, hard schedule plus pretty great team

2082
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 2: and good success rate against that hard schedule means you're

2083
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:13,479
Speaker 2: talking about a great football team.

2084
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 3: Now they're again far from great. It's not even funny.

2085
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 3: I totally disagree with you, but that's fine.

2086
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 2: Now you can have a great football team and have

2087
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 2: some blemishes, and they do. I think jam Miller's numbers

2088
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 2: after contact are terrible. You know, he was supposed to

2089
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:33,759
Speaker 2: be a stud this season, and through injury and an

2090
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 2: offense that's been fraught with issues, they've really had to

2091
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:40,400
Speaker 2: rely on ty Simpson. And you look at his numbers,

2092
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 2: and I'm talking about advanced analytics, and he's one of

2093
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:46,719
Speaker 2: the most on target passers there is in college football

2094
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 2: right now. He's in the top twenty five for certain

2095
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 2: in that court. In that category. Here's the problem. If

2096
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 2: you do rattle as cage, you can have success. So

2097
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 2: that's where I think this game is won or lost

2098
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 2: for Auburn. I think that this pass rush needs to

2099
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 2: get home. I think that Auburn is going to have

2100
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 2: to make the focal point shutting down his tight end

2101
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 2: escape valve that he's been using. He's become a focal

2102
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 2: point of this Alabama offensive attack, especially in the passing game.

2103
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 2: And so if you can slow that connection down and

2104
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 2: force him to rely on some of his other receivers

2105
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 2: and players around this offense, I think he can force

2106
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 2: Alabama to play a little left handed because they really

2107
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 2: don't have a run game to go to as the

2108
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 2: passing game gets attacked, and so that is where you

2109
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 2: can attack a great team is meet them where they're

2110
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 2: the strongest, fight that strength and force them to play

2111
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 2: with one hand tied behind their back. Question is does

2112
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 2: Auburn have the dogs to be able to do it.

2113
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question, Marian, I want to

2114
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:56,599
Speaker 4: understand where you're coming from a little bit. Alabama, Texas

2115
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 4: A and M. Who's better?

2116
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that it would be Texas A

2117
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 3: and M.

2118
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:07,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Texas A and M this year does not have

2119
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 4: a win over an SEC team over five hundred, whereas

2120
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:12,759
Speaker 4: they don't.

2121
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 3: Have lost to Florida State either. So in the first

2122
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 3: week of the year. Okay, so we'll throw it out

2123
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 3: because it's the first game. It doesn't matter. But I think,

2124
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 3: I think, I do think you have to at least give.

2125
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 4: Some credit to you on the road.

2126
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, they don't have a win against the best

2127
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 3: of the best of the SEC. It's not like they

2128
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 3: don't have an impressive win anywhere.

2129
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 4: But what you're saying is A and M is better

2130
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 4: than Alabama, but I can point to a definitive stretch

2131
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 4: of schedule where that's just not true. So and I'm

2132
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 4: not saying Alabama is like world beaters here, but I

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01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 4: think we have to give them the credit that they

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01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 4: deserve because they have three wins against teams above five

2135
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,520
Speaker 4: hundred and the SEC. One of them is probably gonna

2136
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 4: definitely Actually after A and M losing, Georgie is going

2137
01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:00,679
Speaker 4: to the SC championship game, Bama beat him the only

2138
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 4: loss that they have this year in the SEC.

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01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 3: Who are the other wins against in the SEC?

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01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, Vanderbilt five and two, Tennessee four and three, Tennessee

2141
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:11,360
Speaker 4: A and M does not have a win over a

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01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 4: team above five hundred in the SEC?

2143
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 3: Could they beat Tennessee? Would you have them beating Tennessee?

2144
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 4: Texas A and M? Yeah, sure, okay, but Bama talking

2145
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 4: about it? So because you're saying A and M is

2146
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 4: better than Bama, but the eye test maybe says yes,

2147
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 4: but the results don't agree with that assessment at all.

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01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 3: It really doesn't matter about Texas A and M versus

2149
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 3: Alabama for.

2150
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 4: Because you're saying that Alabama stinks and they're not a

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01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 4: good team.

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01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 3: That's not what I said at all, I've said they're

2153
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:44,680
Speaker 3: fool's gold. That's what I've said about Alabama. I think

2154
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 3: they are frauds going forward. I take nothing away from

2155
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,360
Speaker 3: their impressive wins during the season, but what I've said

2156
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 3: the whole time is they're not built to last. That's

2157
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 3: what i've said. Where they have no running game, they

2158
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:01,720
Speaker 3: have a defense that's okay, good ish, right, but not dominant.

2159
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 3: They got punked by Florida State in the trenches. They

2160
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 3: were lucky to beat South Carolina, you know what I mean.

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01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 3: That's not a team that no running or down by thirty. Okay,

2162
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 3: but that's true. They still won that game. But Alabama's

2163
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 3: still lucky to beat South Carolina. So if you look

2164
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:22,759
Speaker 3: at their schedule from a critical point of view, couldn't

2165
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 3: score against LSU, lost at home against Oklahoma even though

2166
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 3: they out gained them by almost two hundred yards. That's

2167
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:31,759
Speaker 3: what fraud teams do. They find a way to lose,

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01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 3: and so very harsh. It's very harsh, and I think

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01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:35,719
Speaker 3: you're true.

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01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:39,559
Speaker 4: I think you're leaning into the opinion that you have

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01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 4: on them and not looking at it objectively.

2172
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 3: I'm looking at it. I do think you're blinded a

2173
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 3: little bit by the blinded by anything you said, you

2174
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:50,080
Speaker 3: are because what I'm saying right now is I actually

2175
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 3: agree that Alabama is not a top five team.

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01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,080
Speaker 4: I think they're a notch below that. I think Ty

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01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 4: Simpson has not played to that level. See, I'm see.

2178
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 4: There's the thing is I'm willing to adjust my opinion

2179
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 4: based off of what's happening, or I do think you

2180
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 4: are very stubborn on this Alabama take that they're a fraud,

2181
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 4: whatever active you want to use, and.

2182
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:14,559
Speaker 3: You're not actually about there's no no you are.

2183
01:53:14,840 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 4: You're not objectively looking at Alabama's schedule and saying they

2184
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:22,960
Speaker 4: Georgia Vandy Maszoo four consecutive weeks and you're like, no,

2185
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter, and M's better, Bama's a fraud.

2186
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 3: None of that is important. Look, dude, here's what I'm saying.

2187
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 3: If I can talk for two seconds, do I can?

2188
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:32,439
Speaker 3: I talk for two seconds? So you're good with that.

2189
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 4: I haven't even had a chance to break the game

2190
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 4: down yet. I'm just trying to gauge your perspective.

2191
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,040
Speaker 3: I'm engauge this. Gauge this all right. If you can

2192
01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 3: shut up for two seconds, you can gauge the hell

2193
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 3: out of this. All right, So Alabama going forward, all right,

2194
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 3: fools Gold to me, doesn't have the goods to go

2195
01:53:51,439 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 3: far in the playoff. I don't know that they're even

2196
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 3: going to get to the playoff because they have to

2197
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 3: win today to get there. I don't think their formula

2198
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:03,679
Speaker 3: is gonna work. They don't have any running game. They're

2199
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 3: overly relying on ty Simpson, and you pointed out pressure

2200
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 3: in his face, not the same guy. Auburn has a

2201
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 3: good pass rush today that could give them problems. The

2202
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:16,600
Speaker 3: defense is just all right, it's good ish, it's not dominant.

2203
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 3: That to me is not a formula that's built to last.

2204
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,440
Speaker 3: That's I'm not saying they suck. I'm not saying they're awful,

2205
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 3: that they're a fraud. In terms of you think they're

2206
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:30,759
Speaker 3: gonna win a national championship.

2207
01:54:30,200 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 4: I do still think that's where you're just completely miss

2208
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 4: whatsoever with what fact that they do have high level talent.

2209
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 4: Do you think A and M has a chance to

2210
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 4: win a national champion I.

2211
01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 3: Think they have a chance.

2212
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 4: Like you think A and M has more of a

2213
01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 4: chance to win a national championship than Alabama, I absolutely

2214
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 4: do see That's where I think you're completely missing what

2215
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 4: Bama has done this year. Name the big game that

2216
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 4: A and M's won in the last month or two,

2217
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 4: not week two, in the last two months. In the

2218
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 4: last two months, this team has not won a game

2219
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 4: against a team over five hundred. They beat Missouri by

2220
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 4: what three times an under five hundred team. In the end,

2221
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 4: Missouri is the same team that Alabama struggled to barely beat.

2222
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 3: And they're both on the road. So I don't know

2223
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 3: what we're talking about, Zuri, Texas.

2224
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 2: A and M.

2225
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 4: Again, if we're comparing A and M to Alabama here

2226
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 4: and you're saying A and M has a chance to

2227
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 4: win a national championship and Alabama doesn't because of this

2228
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 4: opinion that you have on Alabama, I think you're not

2229
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 4: seeing the full picture. Clearly. That's just again, that's just

2230
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 4: my opinion of your assessment of the situation.

2231
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 2: To jump in here, I think that you both serve

2232
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:45,600
Speaker 2: good points. I look, Brian, I agree with your assessment

2233
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:49,720
Speaker 2: on the games and the play we've seen from Alabama

2234
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 2: to point to this point of the season. I think

2235
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 2: there are some weaknesses. I think there are some issues

2236
01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 2: with this team. However, to look at their strength of schedule,

2237
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 2: which by almost every metric you look at any analytics

2238
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 2: company that measures this data, they have a top ten

2239
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 2: strength of schedule and the remaining schedule is not that

2240
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 2: easy top twenty, you know. So you look at that

2241
01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:16,880
Speaker 2: and then you compare it to a lot of the

2242
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 2: teams who are better them than them in the CFP,

2243
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 2: and there's not too many teams who can tout a

2244
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 2: tougher road to get to where they've been. And so yeah,

2245
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 2: even with those weaknesses, they've overcome them. And that's what

2246
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 2: great teams do. Like you know, championship winning teams in

2247
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 2: the NFL, the Chiefs, the Patriots. How many times have

2248
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 2: we said, hey, they don't have a great run game,

2249
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:43,919
Speaker 2: this is in they don't have the right mesh at receiver.

2250
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 2: I mean like we've said it a million times, and

2251
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 2: they go in and win championships. Now, you may not

2252
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 2: believe in Alabama to win a championship, but I agree

2253
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 2: with Jared calling them frauds. It's a really strong term

2254
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 2: to us with the team that's accomplished.

2255
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:04,880
Speaker 3: Their fools gold Like, this is the thing we got

2256
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 3: to go as the haters.

2257
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,839
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, here's.

2258
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 3: The way I break it down. Okay, I'm gonna use

2259
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 3: two NFL teams, all right, the Bears they just won yesterday,

2260
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 3: the Bears nine and three, okay, and the Broncos, uh,

2261
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 3: nine and two. They've had some good wins, like the

2262
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 3: Bears just fresh off of beating Philadelphia, they beat the Steelers.

2263
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 3: They've had two good wins in a row, all right,

2264
01:57:27,720 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 3: But their formula, you could look at it well, nine

2265
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:31,640
Speaker 3: and three. I mean, look at the Bears. They've got

2266
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 3: the goods, right, They've got this strength, They've got that strength.

2267
01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 3: What they don't have is a good defense. They're living

2268
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 3: off of takeaways. They're having a bunch of double digit

2269
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 3: fourth quarter comebacks. They've had five of those things. That's

2270
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 3: a formula that is not built to last.

2271
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 4: I agree, But they're still winning games. And you have

2272
01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 4: to give them credit still for winning the nine.

2273
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 3: I'm not avoiding giving them credit for what they've done.

2274
01:57:55,720 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 3: What I'm telling you is their formula isn't going to

2275
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 3: be sustainable, and that's what you guys are struggling with.

2276
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,720
Speaker 3: I'm not like they haven't done anything this year. I've

2277
01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 3: never said that one time. What I've said is what

2278
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,640
Speaker 3: they've done leads me to leads me to believe they're

2279
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:12,000
Speaker 3: not going to be able to keep.

2280
01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 4: But I don't think that's the same formula because Bama

2281
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 4: actually does have a legit defense with legitimate no. No, no,

2282
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 4: their quarterback is the best.

2283
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 3: Saying that, dude, it's it's I'm not comparing them.

2284
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 4: Just knocking the run game. You're just knocking the run

2285
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 4: game and championship.

2286
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 2: Want to listen.

2287
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:30,240
Speaker 3: You don't want to understand, like you're dugg in No.

2288
01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 2: Actually I tried.

2289
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 4: That's why I asked you the question about an LAMA.

2290
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 4: Trying to compare the teams. I'm trying to understand, but

2291
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 4: it brought back to the fraud.

2292
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 3: I can't tell, man. I'm then We've got Rich orn

2293
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:42,839
Speaker 3: Berger Penn State All American. We've got Jared Smith overly

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01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:46,640
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Speaker 3: up on game all right, we got picks to make,

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01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:39,680
Speaker 3: no time for a fancy intro, Jared roll them on out.

2313
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 3: What do you got?

2314
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 4: LSU Oklahoma under thirty six and a half rock fight

2315
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:46,440
Speaker 4: Daniel Hill Bama running back under thirty nine and a

2316
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 4: half rushing yards. Jeremiah Love over one thirty eight and

2317
01:59:49,360 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 4: a half rushing yards.

2318
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:54,040
Speaker 2: All right, I'm taking all dogs in rivalry games. Michigan

2319
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 2: plus ten. That game's being played in Michigan against Ohio State.

2320
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 2: Washington plus seven point against Oregon hosting Oregon and VATEC

2321
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:07,200
Speaker 2: against Virginia on the road plus seven and a half.

2322
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:08,640
Speaker 3: All right, I will go.

2323
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:09,240
Speaker 2: I agree.

2324
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 3: Actually, I got LSU in Oklahoma under thirty six and

2325
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:15,600
Speaker 3: a half. Limited offenses, nasty defenses. Give me Auburn plus

2326
02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:18,240
Speaker 3: five and a half against a fraudulent BAMA team Ashton

2327
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:20,240
Speaker 3: Daniels under one fifty eight and a half.