Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Look who I'm with here.
Speaker 1: You're not going to believe this.
Speaker 2: I'm live in Atlanta, Georgia, and there's one person you
Speaker 2: talk to when you come here about anything, politics, economy, life, sneakers.
Speaker 2: He just came right from a Puma commercial Killer Mike,
Speaker 2: Mike Render.
Speaker 1: Great to see you in person, No less, I'm great.
Speaker 2: Last time we came down here for the special election
Speaker 2: for Senator Warnock, we had a chance to talk. We
Speaker 2: were down at Ebenezer, but we weren't together. And it's
Speaker 2: great to see you at our set here today. It's fantastic.
Speaker 2: So look, this is someone who needs no introduction. You're
Speaker 2: a superstar Grammy Award winning artist, you're an actor.
Speaker 1: Now you've got your own bank. You're also one of
Speaker 1: the faces of Georgia.
Speaker 2: Tell her audience, people are watching Bloomberg TV all over
Speaker 2: the world what they need to know about your state,
Speaker 2: because tomorrow we're going to be here talking elections, talking issues.
Speaker 2: What is it that makes Georgia special this time?
Speaker 3: I mean Georgia has the ability to effect election in
Speaker 3: a big way, the same way did And when I
Speaker 3: say affect the election, these elections are in first and
Speaker 3: foremost for George. I want people to think hyper local.
Speaker 3: Who are gonna be our two Supreme Court justices in
Speaker 3: Georgia avenues. We have two amazing women that are running.
Speaker 3: You know, how are we gonna make sure we get
Speaker 3: all soft back in there? First two times? I worked
Speaker 3: like a dog on the behalf of this campaign.
Speaker 4: We got a man.
Speaker 3: I had a call from him about a week and
Speaker 3: a half ago like, hey, you know, looking forward seeing
Speaker 3: out there again or not? Who's done a had OUs
Speaker 3: off at went and done an amazing job hitting the ground.
Speaker 4: So you know, I think I think we got to
Speaker 4: hit the ground.
Speaker 3: I think we got to galvanized, plot, plan, strategize, organized,
Speaker 3: and mobilize our way to the polls. It was important then,
Speaker 3: it's important now. And know Tie, you know what I understand.
Speaker 3: We don't have to stay in a perpetual state of
Speaker 3: feel that we're gonna lose it all if we're losing
Speaker 3: an election or this is important. My grandmother taught me
Speaker 3: that it was in the civic responsibility to vote Ms.
Speaker 4: Ellison, who was an.
Speaker 3: Absolute tyrant, and my civics teacher taught me to appreciate
Speaker 3: the Bill of Rights and Constitution because I had no
Speaker 3: rights in her classroom, and she made sure that I
Speaker 3: understood that I was lucky when I got outside their classroom.
Speaker 3: Exercise was right. So I'm always encouraged to help people
Speaker 3: get to the post. I'm always encouraged by every election,
Speaker 3: no matter how minuscule and small it is. And I
Speaker 3: encourage people to do their research. Going your Google while
Speaker 3: you're on your lunch break. Yeh, see who's running in
Speaker 3: your district, who agrees with you? Talk to your neighbors,
Speaker 3: see who they want. And you, guys, you know, make
Speaker 3: demands of the politicians that you get in office. The
Speaker 3: day after they win, they should get a note from you.
Speaker 3: These are the potholes we want feel this week.
Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people must have been talking to
Speaker 2: their neighbors because a million Georgians voted early.
Speaker 1: That's a record. What do you make of that.
Speaker 3: I'm excited and I know that this state that has
Speaker 3: been politically active for a very long time. And I
Speaker 3: think that whether it was the wise decision of William
Speaker 3: Hartsfield to give del to an extended contract here, or
Speaker 3: the wise decision or Maynord Jackson to say, hey, our
Speaker 3: own local companies, including being black, companies can build this
Speaker 3: air for it. I think those kind of local decisions
Speaker 3: have helped make us in the international city.
Speaker 4: So I think that we're going to continue to do that.
Speaker 4: So go Georgiana.
Speaker 2: This is a tough time for our economy, which we
Speaker 2: talk about a lot here on Bloomberg. As you know,
Speaker 2: you and I spent a lot of time talking about
Speaker 2: the deep banked last time you were on. Even if
Speaker 2: you have a bank account, now you're dealing with four
Speaker 2: and a half dollar gas, You're dealing with mortgage rates,
Speaker 2: a housing market that won't budge.
Speaker 1: We're seeing food prices.
Speaker 2: Go up now with this war underway, and I'm wondering
Speaker 2: to what extent that's impacting Atlanta as a city and
Speaker 2: decisions at the polls tomorrow.
Speaker 3: It's impactful. Atlanta has more. I'll give you an example
Speaker 3: directly from my community. Atlanta has more black millionaires than
Speaker 3: any other city, Atlanta and DC at the top two.
Speaker 3: You look Atlanta that we have the greatest wealth disparities too,
Speaker 3: between the lords and ice. We actually are microcosm of America.
Speaker 3: Maria that probably has greater economic opportunity in the country,
Speaker 3: in the world. For a person that lands here on
Speaker 3: a boat one hundred years ago with someone that's getting
Speaker 3: off the plane today. But with that said, we have
Speaker 3: some of the biggest disparities, and we have lack of education,
Speaker 3: lack of proper we have food deserts, we have lack
Speaker 3: of proper healthcare. We can fix these things. I think
Speaker 3: that our mayor in Atlanta near Dickens is an amazing
Speaker 3: job of getting people house. I think that small businesses
Speaker 3: like the One TI and Open TI and I have
Speaker 3: open called man Kit Seafood, which employees nearly forty people,
Speaker 3: are important. We have millions of small businesses that are
Speaker 3: in the country. Everyone cannot work for large corporations right
Speaker 3: for these small and medium businesses. As FIFA comes here
Speaker 3: and World Cup is here, we're going to have those
Speaker 3: small and medium businesses some growth, but we don't want
Speaker 3: them to go.
Speaker 4: We want them to keep people employed.
Speaker 3: So in these tough times, let's make sure we're supporting
Speaker 3: small and local that's school's going to keep people employed.
Speaker 3: Let's make sure that we demand more of our politicians
Speaker 3: in terms of if you look what our marrors done
Speaker 3: up in New York in terms of eliminating some debt
Speaker 3: to stuff and get breas and some pressure off people.
Speaker 4: Let's look at those candidates. We're going to do that here,
Speaker 4: and let's spok for this.
Speaker 2: I love that you first reached for Supreme Court in
Speaker 2: your first answer, Yes, because national coverage hasn't gone down
Speaker 2: to that level in most cases in Georgia. But I'm
Speaker 2: hearing more about those two Supreme Court seats than just
Speaker 2: about anything other than the big ones, the gubernatorial and
Speaker 2: Senate primaries.
Speaker 1: And it has a lot to do with redrawing maps.
Speaker 2: People started to really wake up to what they see
Speaker 2: as a potential opportunity here.
Speaker 1: Is that why I'm hearing so much about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the re district, that is the why.
Speaker 3: And you know what what I'm encouraged by in Georgia
Speaker 3: is because being discussed racially, and it does in fact
Speaker 3: impact my community from a racial standpoint, because some places
Speaker 3: it's going to be used to deny to break up
Speaker 3: black constituents from proper representation. But I would like to
Speaker 3: implore right now that the working class understands that the
Speaker 3: master class of the planning class in the South three
Speaker 3: four hundred years ago did not care about the poor
Speaker 3: workers that they were working in the fields, whether they
Speaker 3: would look like near you. They didn't care if they
Speaker 3: were the people that were labeled rednecks.
Speaker 4: They came out of the UK.
Speaker 3: They didn't care if the people they looked at that
Speaker 3: they brought from the shores out. But they cared about
Speaker 3: economic domination. And if you think that this is not
Speaker 3: a working class issue and it is only a racial issue,
Speaker 3: it will only be so long before there you are
Speaker 3: on the chopping block and there's no one there to
Speaker 3: advocate an ally. So I would implore the working class
Speaker 3: right now to make sure that you get people in
Speaker 3: office that are going to represent the you, and I
Speaker 3: would encourage the corporate class to make sure that they're there.
Speaker 3: Or what you want to see is a break in
Speaker 3: this country that we haven't seen and nearly.
Speaker 2: Well, that's fascinating because the redrawing of congressional districts, particularly
Speaker 2: after the Supreme Court ruling on the Voting Rights Act,
Speaker 2: seemed to be distinctly racial.
Speaker 3: Is it not, Well, at that time, it had to be.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that at the time that Martin Luther
Speaker 3: King was fighting for proper workers' rights in the fair
Speaker 3: ways for black people in Mississippi, the most underpaid people
Speaker 3: and people who were resisting him the most were also
Speaker 3: white and Passipians. At the time that Colin Kaepernick, skip bag.
Speaker 4: Was still an amazing thing.
Speaker 3: One time, Joe he said that I think it was
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh everyone kneeled in solidarity with kapern Kaepernick one
Speaker 3: player did not.
Speaker 4: Believe he was a white player.
Speaker 3: The player, of course patriotic, believed in this country, and
Speaker 3: that was great. But the NFL was notorious for having
Speaker 3: a bully pit in terms of negotiations with the players' association.
Speaker 3: Skip said that guy doesn't understand and what he did.
Speaker 3: He broke solidarity and broke the ability for them to
Speaker 3: move as a unit beyond this particular issue. So I
Speaker 3: want to say that even if it feels distinctly racial,
Speaker 3: understand that if the tactics work on race based on me,
Speaker 3: who will work on class to you. So I say,
Speaker 3: whether you're in the Appalachians or Atlanta, you had better
Speaker 3: beware of than anybody that wants to read.
Speaker 2: These are incredibly important points that you're making. Will Georgia
Speaker 2: Redraw do you think that's done?
Speaker 4: I don't. It's something I disagree with my governor on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and I think he's ruled with a
Speaker 3: pretty fair hand, and I think he's absolutely wrong. So
Speaker 3: I say that to him. I say that on national television.
Speaker 3: I think it is not a wise thing to do.
Speaker 3: I think that Georgia has shown itself to be emotionally
Speaker 3: intelligent terms of going in the voting booth.
Speaker 4: I think that our.
Speaker 3: Mayors in Atlanta have done a great job of working
Speaker 3: with our governors, be the Democrat or Republican, from Joe
Speaker 3: Frank Harris, A Zell Miller on through to our Tremc
Speaker 3: Gerran current governor. I think that it throws the balance
Speaker 3: of Georgia. Often it makes us copy states that are
Speaker 3: not as progressive as you think.
Speaker 1: Politics.
Speaker 2: All day there's music a hobby at this point. This
Speaker 2: is it's amazing to listen to you.
Speaker 3: No, I love, I love so most of the day
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, oh my god, how can I make sure
Speaker 3: this restaurant doesn't cost me any more money? So I'm
Speaker 3: thinking bank kase foul. I'm thinking music because I'm going
Speaker 3: to be working on Michael too this summer. But lately
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about acting. I've been luckily you sure
Speaker 3: you're not the only handsome guy. Get to look in
Speaker 3: his eyes and we talk. But I get to I
Speaker 3: get to sit across from Ethan Hawk on the show
Speaker 3: calls a Low Now, and I've been brought in for
Speaker 3: seasons called Yeah. It's very fun working with Scarpettit is amazing,
Speaker 3: But Scarpett is an amazing show.
Speaker 2: How do you prepare for an acting role differently than
Speaker 2: you would for a musical show?
Speaker 1: Or to sit down and record something?
Speaker 3: Well, music you count you can record just emotionally get
Speaker 3: it out and men you can go back and learn
Speaker 3: the song and you can imitate the emotion. Interesting with
Speaker 3: with acting, it's important that you do what you do
Speaker 3: in kindergarten repetition. Let me learn these words. I have
Speaker 3: to say my ABC perfectly or.
Speaker 1: I have a horrible memory. I could never do this.
Speaker 3: So your mom won't let you go outside till you
Speaker 3: say all ABCIX. And you have to treat yourself like that.
Speaker 3: I see my actors and writers have to get along
Speaker 3: because you get there in solitude, and then you got
Speaker 3: a good reading partner. I have a filmmaker friend whose
Speaker 3: name is on Michael Allen, and he reads with me.
Speaker 3: I have friends in the industry that give me good advice.
Speaker 3: So I think you know more than anything. Kindergarten taught
Speaker 3: your repetition about that, and once you learn it, put
Speaker 3: some more repetition.
Speaker 1: Indeed.
Speaker 2: But everything we're talking about is a creative exercise that
Speaker 2: you're involved in. And there are big questions about the
Speaker 2: way AI is about to change or is already changed this.
Speaker 2: Whether you're a visual artist a music shouldn't I could.
Speaker 2: I was talking to Chuck Level about this a little
Speaker 2: bit earlier. You could listen to AI music that's not
Speaker 2: even made by a person anymore.
Speaker 1: Is that a good or a bad thing?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: I knew, I know.
Speaker 3: A producer sent me a track last night that I
Speaker 3: ended up getting on. This an amazing track. He said,
Speaker 3: I couldn't wait for a singer to sing it, so
Speaker 3: I sang it myself and made AI fix my voice. Wow,
Speaker 3: ah man, he sounded amazing. I'll never let him sing
Speaker 3: it live. We're going to find a real singing but
Speaker 3: it was it enabled him to get his idea out.
Speaker 4: And what I found with technology.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because I was just told by the
Speaker 3: president of Georgia Tech that they're actually bringing a program
Speaker 3: that teaches technology through creativity.
Speaker 4: You're going to be able to learn music. But at
Speaker 4: the same time be learning colding.
Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely genius and chut friend from childhood
Speaker 3: rahem b I, who's a professor of maritis over here.
Speaker 3: But what happens is I think that AI is going
Speaker 3: to give musicians and artists the ability to have another
Speaker 3: tool to use their imagination. Yes, I can imagine a
Speaker 3: sketch before I draw it. But the ability to use
Speaker 3: AI to say, do the sketch and then I'll draw
Speaker 3: might work.
Speaker 4: Might help.
Speaker 2: That's important though, so it would augment your work now
Speaker 2: replace you as the Artist's.
Speaker 4: A possibility there if we take advantage.
Speaker 1: Of it, if we do it right, if we do
Speaker 1: it right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't do some wrong before you do it right.
Speaker 1: Playing with AI is this part of your world. And
Speaker 1: you got claud, You've got John.
Speaker 3: And I I am as ignorant as can be. I
Speaker 3: know much about a AI as my grandpa knew about it.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, maybe we'll learn together.
Speaker 2: The Absolutely, it means a lot to us that you
Speaker 2: came all the way here to see us appreciate having
Speaker 2: you on Bloomberg. I'm very happy for your success and
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the next show.