Speaker 1: Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of the Black Effect
Speaker 1: Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Welcome to another episode
Speaker 1: of Reasonably Shady. I am Gazelle Bryant. So what's up everyone,
Speaker 1: This is Robin Dixon. Thank you once again forgiving us
Speaker 1: your ears. Yes, especially in the summertime, because you know,
Speaker 1: like in the summer, people go vacant. People are outside
Speaker 1: outside traveling. Yes they are, you know, to be listening.
Speaker 1: Or maybe they listened to us at the pool, Oh
Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, or maybe they're you know, there's people
Speaker 1: hopefully you're still working out and you're listening to us
Speaker 1: on your workout or on your way to work, but
Speaker 1: you're you're really not working these days. Who's working right
Speaker 1: by the way, okay? But the traffic in the working
Speaker 1: in the in the gas prices. So I saw something
Speaker 1: on the internet about the gas prices in other countries.
Speaker 1: Oh they're like double as it is absurd. What is happening?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm gonna talk to pootin when
Speaker 1: is okay? When when I need to look up like traditionally,
Speaker 1: So first of all, they said inflation is at nine
Speaker 1: point one percent, which is like the highest it's been
Speaker 1: in like forty years or something forty one years out
Speaker 1: of control. When is that going to go backwards? When
Speaker 1: when is that going to reverse? Like? How long are
Speaker 1: we going to be in this? Because this is something
Speaker 1: bad is gonna happen, but I pray not. But in
Speaker 1: order for it to switch, something bad's gotta happen. Okay,
Speaker 1: can we talk like, is Russia still they're still fighting?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but if they are about to call
Speaker 1: poot and keep telling y'all, I'm okay. Anyway, alright, per usual,
Speaker 1: we're getting into our reasonably shady moment of the week,
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna go right into it because these
Speaker 1: kids are mine. You know what, Just when you think
Speaker 1: they love you, they slap you in the face of
Speaker 1: and you realize maybe they don't what happened. So I've
Speaker 1: got to go out of town. And it's kind of
Speaker 1: been stressing me at a little bit because I'm I'm
Speaker 1: leaving them for longer than I would normally leave them.
Speaker 1: And I've been like all up in their face, jumping
Speaker 1: in their beds, trying to be up under them, and
Speaker 1: they're like, ma get away. So I'm like, guys, look,
Speaker 1: I'm traveling I'm doing I'm doing some things and I'm
Speaker 1: really gonna miss you all, and they're like, Bama, like
Speaker 1: they don't care at all that I'm leaving. And I
Speaker 1: feel like my kids are a little shady. They're a
Speaker 1: little bit too much like me. Yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: when you're going, they'll miss you. So but but but
Speaker 1: that is kind of like, okay, so was there a
Speaker 1: time or how long ago was it when the same
Speaker 1: scenario we would be taking place and they're like oh no,
Speaker 1: and and they're crying, Well, I we we went from
Speaker 1: tears I used to get tears too, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you, and then wanting to like get
Speaker 1: every piece of me that they that they could before
Speaker 1: I left too. They don't give two stocks about me.
Speaker 1: They're like goodbye. Well they are what sixteen and seventeen. Yes,
Speaker 1: Grace is basically putting up the deuces sign like peace out, mom. Yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: so so I have so Corey's fourteen, so I have
Speaker 1: like a couple more years, a couple more years, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's still you know, I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of kids at fourteen are on re like that, like
Speaker 1: they don't want anything to do with their parents. Corey
Speaker 1: is still like likes me, he still loves me, but
Speaker 1: he done much longer. Okay, well I'm sorry, it's okay.
Speaker 1: You have me. I know, I know Robin doesn't care
Speaker 1: about me either, But do you have a recently shady moment?
Speaker 1: I do. It's just another event kind of situation. I'm counting. So,
Speaker 1: you know, you go to the nail salon, you get
Speaker 1: your you know, your your mani and your petty and
Speaker 1: the nails, like, oh, you want gel on your toes
Speaker 1: and like usually I'm like, no, I don't need Joe.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do paint polish or whatever, but like
Speaker 1: white paint chips. So I was like, yeah, let's do Joe. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: worst decision ever, worst because it really weakens your toenails.
Speaker 1: And so like my big like look at this, you
Speaker 1: see this, Like it literally my nails split like deep
Speaker 1: and not that it hurts, but it's like if you
Speaker 1: just like play with your toenail, it's splitting, it's coming
Speaker 1: off toails. Are we's gonna take a picture off her
Speaker 1: toeail that we're talking about. She's gonna posting on her
Speaker 1: stories because it looks crazy. I mean, but this the
Speaker 1: piece came off, but it literally was like flipped up
Speaker 1: that whole that whole piece was just like flipped up.
Speaker 1: So the Gael like really weakened your toenails. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's good to know. It's good
Speaker 1: to know people that said that's a good tip. And okay,
Speaker 1: And so this is the second time I had to
Speaker 1: so this toe, my other big toe. This is acrylic
Speaker 1: on my toe because the Gael weakened my toe nail,
Speaker 1: you know, So when they so when I got my
Speaker 1: nails polished again, and I had like a big split
Speaker 1: in it right there, like, oh, well, we can't pull
Speaker 1: that off. It's gonna hurt. So let's put a crylic
Speaker 1: on it, literally crylic on my big toes. So you
Speaker 1: got tricked into a crylic basically, it's what you're saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's just acrylic right here. But I'm I'm taking
Speaker 1: this off, like I don't ship and now I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm stuck, right because it's the summertime, right, so
Speaker 1: I can't So if I take the gel off, you know,
Speaker 1: you want to let you give your your nails time
Speaker 1: to like get stronger and and grow in but it's
Speaker 1: the summertime. I can't have my nails, my toe nails
Speaker 1: not painting. No, that one Dixon is not having now
Speaker 1: he is not walking down the street with you. And
Speaker 1: you tells the jack yes. And then when if I
Speaker 1: take the gel off of these nails, they're gonna be
Speaker 1: so we I don't know what to do. Let's stop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you stock you're stuck with gel on your toes until
Speaker 1: you're seventy five. Let's tell like the fall until it's
Speaker 1: time to like cover the toes. Alright, guys, we have
Speaker 1: an amazing show for you. Guys, we are talking to
Speaker 1: none other than Carlos King, King King. And if you
Speaker 1: don't know who he is, um, and I have to
Speaker 1: really explain to you who he is, you might be
Speaker 1: a loser. So it is reasonably shade sters. We have
Speaker 1: for us to date a guest who really needs no introduction. Okay,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna introduce him anyway. So he is what
Speaker 1: is he robbing? Oh my gosh, the producer extraordinaire, Mr Carlos,
Speaker 1: kids of many many television shows. He's got a new podcast,
Speaker 1: He's got a new nighttime talk show. Carlos Like, let
Speaker 1: us get us right, tell us run down your resume,
Speaker 1: up everything. Yeah, you guys did a great job. So
Speaker 1: you know, people call me the King of reality television.
Speaker 1: People or you or yourself. Oh honey, like Beyonce's bee Hive.
Speaker 1: I don't come up with the moniker. My fans do.
Speaker 1: Just check it, ye. So you know, i am called
Speaker 1: the King of reality television, and I've been producing reality
Speaker 1: TV for fifteen years, starting with the Real house Spots
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, which was my first reality show. I'm the
Speaker 1: first black man ever to executive produce a Real Housewives
Speaker 1: franchise and paved the way for others. Hey, Eric Fuller,
Speaker 1: Eric Eric Um. I have a late night show on
Speaker 1: own called The Nightcap with Carlos King that air Saturday's
Speaker 1: at ten o'clock on the Upper Morfrey Network. I'm the
Speaker 1: creator of the Love and Match franchise, which has Hunt's
Speaker 1: Bill and d C starring Gizelle's best friend Money Samuel.
Speaker 1: Podcast called Reality with the King, which is a shady,
Speaker 1: reasonable podcast. Like yeah, okay, so we're gonna start with
Speaker 1: some ice breakers a little bit. Okay, this is rapid fire,
Speaker 1: rapid fire, Carlos Okay, you ready, Okay, favorite Colorady favorite
Speaker 1: color blue blue, Beyonce, Arihanna, Beyonce, Nicki, Minaja, Cardi ban Nicki, Minaj,
Speaker 1: Potomac or Atlanta. Oh, no shade right now? Potomac okay,
Speaker 1: and no shade because we love Atlanta and they paid
Speaker 1: the way, yes, but they paid the way. But don't
Speaker 1: make anybody man please. Yes, but Carlos King has said
Speaker 1: Potomac okay. And that's huge, just for the record for
Speaker 1: Carlos to say that, because we know that Atlanta is
Speaker 1: your baby, you know, when it comes to producing and
Speaker 1: when it comes to talking about the Real Housewives of Atlanta,
Speaker 1: it's simos. What's not simultaneous, Simo is Carlos is in
Speaker 1: the equation. Okay. There is no Atlanta without Carlos King. Okay,
Speaker 1: So so you know what, Carlos I. On a recent
Speaker 1: episode of Reasonably Shady, I kind of went on a
Speaker 1: rant about how I feel like social media has kind
Speaker 1: of um changed the landscape of of the Real Housewives.
Speaker 1: Like we were kind of being nostalgic about early Atlanta Housewives, yes,
Speaker 1: you know, seasons one through four or five, whatever, And
Speaker 1: I was saying, I really feel like now because social
Speaker 1: media is so prevalent in in you know, almost so
Speaker 1: toxic that it has changed the way that people on
Speaker 1: these shows act and the things that they say, the
Speaker 1: things they do, the way that they look, so that
Speaker 1: now you're not really getting the real raw person and
Speaker 1: the things that they would really say and how they
Speaker 1: were interact with one another. You're getting people who are guarded,
Speaker 1: who are worried about, yes, filtered, who are who are
Speaker 1: worried about you know what the fans are gonna say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been canceled dealing with the backlass of social media. Like,
Speaker 1: so do you agree with that? Because I was like,
Speaker 1: I really miss you know nothing, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: when you think about it's like, wow, like you if
Speaker 1: you sit and watch Atlanta season one to three, it's
Speaker 1: so different than anything that's on TV right now. If
Speaker 1: you watch Beverly Hills seasons one to three, it's so different,
Speaker 1: Like things have just changed so much. So do your thought, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I listen, I agree one a hundred person And I
Speaker 1: produced the first episode, first season of the Real Hospital
Speaker 1: of Atlanta in two thousand and eight, right, so I
Speaker 1: was there when Ninie Leagus, Kim Zosiac, Chara Whitfield, de
Speaker 1: Sean Snow Lisa Wu like, these women were the blueprint,
Speaker 1: and the reason why they were the blueprint is because
Speaker 1: they didn't have anybody to study. They were truly being themselves.
Speaker 1: There was no social media. What has happened now, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to let's talk about the Housewives fan base.
Speaker 1: The Housewives fan base who I love because they followed
Speaker 1: my career. They're fantastic some of them. Some of them
Speaker 1: are very toxic, and it's it's it's it's it's ruining
Speaker 1: the fun of watching the show, and it's ruining the
Speaker 1: fund of producing the show. I will say when I
Speaker 1: left see the Nine of the Real Hospitals of Atlanta,
Speaker 1: it wasn't around the time where I felt that some
Speaker 1: of those women, we're behaving because they cared about what
Speaker 1: social media was going to say and and and there
Speaker 1: they come across very guarded. I'll gep an example. Deret
Speaker 1: on Beverly Hills was iconic when she first came onto
Speaker 1: the scene. She was interesting, she was fun. The fans
Speaker 1: hated the read her first and second season, but I
Speaker 1: loved her because I said, she's ballsy, she's brave, and
Speaker 1: she speaks her mind. Deret is so boring. She has
Speaker 1: nothing going on Twitter, ruined deret do not care about
Speaker 1: the rented clothes that you get from the stylist in
Speaker 1: the nine o two one oh the code. I could
Speaker 1: care less about your alleged um businesses of you trying
Speaker 1: to make over a corner of a restaurant and we
Speaker 1: don't see it anymore. I do not care about your
Speaker 1: wedding dresses you're trying to promote when I haven't seen
Speaker 1: it all this season. Time outwards, time out, time out. Okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, first of all, we started this, and y'all,
Speaker 1: I don't think we recorded it. Carlo said he was
Speaker 1: reasonable and zealous, shady. Let me tell you something. This
Speaker 1: man is a shady one. Is he read to Read
Speaker 1: like a new book talk and he wasn't done. You
Speaker 1: interrupted him. Continue. Well, I'll finish by saying to Read
Speaker 1: is the perfect example of how social media can ruin
Speaker 1: a reality star who had the potential to be iconic
Speaker 1: and and and that is sad. And that's why last
Speaker 1: one I leave My Love and Match Hunsbill cast. There
Speaker 1: four seasons, and none of them are on Twitter anymore
Speaker 1: because they ain't said to themselves, I no longer can
Speaker 1: do my job if I re comments based on what
Speaker 1: these people think about me. So let me do, let
Speaker 1: me do, let me do this. Let me continue being
Speaker 1: great on my show where I'm asking money and not
Speaker 1: care about what you guys saying on Twitter dot com. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know that's me and Robin's story. I know,
Speaker 1: you know we don't play around with the Twitter. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: I do have a question because you and I were
Speaker 1: on because this offended me a little bit, Carlos, some
Speaker 1: little caveat out there. First, you and I were we
Speaker 1: did this little e behind reality television or something like
Speaker 1: the story of reality television. Okay, So in that you
Speaker 1: talked about Ninie Leaks and the greatness and the bigness
Speaker 1: of Ninie Leaks. Right, Because I'm gonna be honest with
Speaker 1: the first time I saw Ninie on Atlanta, which was
Speaker 1: like season one ap one, first scene there's Ninie, I
Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, she's a star, right, And and
Speaker 1: you in that interview, it I like you were taking
Speaker 1: credit for for for Nini and her personality and her
Speaker 1: character and everything, not her character, but just like her rise, right.
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, Carlos, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: And I took I took it personal only because I
Speaker 1: am on the other side of the camera and I
Speaker 1: would never want any producer to be like, oh I
Speaker 1: made Gizelle, I made Robin. If it wasn't for me
Speaker 1: and bitches wouldn't be ship like I would hate that.
Speaker 1: But to my in my defense, I never said those things.
Speaker 1: But continue no, no, no. So the question, well you
Speaker 1: you kind of did a little bit Carlos, So the question.
Speaker 1: So the question is do you feel like without Carlos,
Speaker 1: Nini would not be as big as she is, I
Speaker 1: guess is the question? Oh no, not at all, not
Speaker 1: at all. So let's let's let's go back a little bit.
Speaker 1: Because one thing about me, you know, being from the
Speaker 1: world of journalism and my Porsche boys, is I remember
Speaker 1: the facts. So when you and I both were on
Speaker 1: UM I think it's called Reality rewind Andy Cohen produced it,
Speaker 1: and they when I say that, the producers asked me
Speaker 1: questions about Ninie Leaks and the first day we met,
Speaker 1: and I said, when I met ninniele she was a star.
Speaker 1: I thought in love with her. She said, hey, bitch,
Speaker 1: I said, oh bitch, we're gonna be friends forever, like
Speaker 1: I love her. And what I did say which is
Speaker 1: true is that Ninie will look at me and my
Speaker 1: mannerisms and she would be like, oh, that's funny. And
Speaker 1: she will always you know how like growing up in
Speaker 1: the black household, how your parents would be like, just Zelle, Robin,
Speaker 1: go dance for the people, Go go dann go see
Speaker 1: in front of the friends like this. Chris would come over.
Speaker 1: So on set, Ninie will have her friends over and
Speaker 1: she was like, Carlo's come here. Do that thing you
Speaker 1: did when you used to swipe your bangs away. And
Speaker 1: I would be like, yes, yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love so in she started taking my manner rhythms
Speaker 1: and she will apply it on camera and people and
Speaker 1: people would be like, why are you acting like a
Speaker 1: gay black man? People obviously say likened A's like a
Speaker 1: gay black man. I was saying Gizelle that I'm the
Speaker 1: gay black man that she was acting like. So I'm
Speaker 1: glad we talked about that. But no, I would never
Speaker 1: take credit for her success. But I will say this,
Speaker 1: and every great female reality star is great because she
Speaker 1: has a producer. Oftentimes it's a gay boy oftentimes who
Speaker 1: is able to pull out the best. And when I
Speaker 1: say that, I'm not saying we take credit for no
Speaker 1: more success. My my, my thought process in this is
Speaker 1: when you look at Beyonce and Mariah Kerry and Jennet Jackson,
Speaker 1: like these great reformers, oftentimes they have a gay choreographer,
Speaker 1: Like there's something about that relationship that happens. And I
Speaker 1: believe the reason why Gil you are one of my
Speaker 1: ten greatest houseplights of all time is talk about that
Speaker 1: you're great on your own. Don't get me wrong. But
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stop saying his name because he's very private.
Speaker 1: But there's a producer who works on potomac Um, a
Speaker 1: gay black man who is beyond talented and a genius.
Speaker 1: And I think because you have a trusting relationship with
Speaker 1: him and and a and a key key that that
Speaker 1: it brings off the best in you. But but but
Speaker 1: by no means what I say. He's the reason why
Speaker 1: you're number nine on my list. So let's get to
Speaker 1: the list really quickly, because I have some questions about
Speaker 1: this list now. Was happy that I made it on
Speaker 1: the list. I was honored because Carlos King does not
Speaker 1: give out accolades easily at all. Okay, we know that.
Speaker 1: So Kyle Richards was not on the list right And
Speaker 1: that was confusing to me because I feel like she's
Speaker 1: held Beverly Hills together for fourteen seasons or have a
Speaker 1: long maybe I would agree with you, So then why
Speaker 1: wasn't she on the list? She was not on my
Speaker 1: top ten list right now, when I do my top twenty,
Speaker 1: Kyle would be numbered eleven. I'm done. Car would be
Speaker 1: between the love and OK. But but I guess the
Speaker 1: big the bigger question, Carlos is you had Danielle Stop
Speaker 1: on the list. No shade to Danielle, but Danielle was
Speaker 1: a housewife for well how many seasons? At one point
Speaker 1: two and for two Whereas it's like, if I feel
Speaker 1: like skin in the game speaks volumes, right, Kyle has
Speaker 1: skinning the game like no other and and every season
Speaker 1: she has a solid season and she keeps that show going.
Speaker 1: So like, how would how would she be over how
Speaker 1: would you overlook her to a Danielle style? Easily? Name
Speaker 1: me one iconic thing that Kyle has done, Mauriceo. The splits, Carlos,
Speaker 1: that's what we got. Let's plan it exactly. No. Look,
Speaker 1: I am a huge Kyle Richard's fan. I think she's
Speaker 1: a great reality star Kyle Richard's competing against the top ten.
Speaker 1: She doesn't hold the candle to a daniel style because
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and I said this,
Speaker 1: and I and and quote me again, without Danielle, nothing
Speaker 1: would have happened on New Jersey housewise, and I was
Speaker 1: there the first two seasons and can say that without
Speaker 1: Danielle the show will be boring. And no disrespect of
Speaker 1: Potomic Ladies, but we can also look at a show
Speaker 1: like Potomac and say without certain people, what would be happening. So,
Speaker 1: because Danielle was on her own and Teresa at that
Speaker 1: time was very safe and sweet, Teresa's table flip is
Speaker 1: courtesy of Danielle. So Kyle. Although Kyle is good at
Speaker 1: stirring the pot and listen, I think Kyl is great.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to Niny, Bethany, Ramona, Teresa, Danielle, Giselle, Sara,
Speaker 1: Kim Zelsiac, Kyle, Kyle is an iconic, but she definitely
Speaker 1: is a formidable player. Okay, So I heard a rumor
Speaker 1: that that because you worked on Erzy the year at
Speaker 1: the table got flipped, right, Yes, so she didn't really
Speaker 1: flip the table, that was you under the table flipping
Speaker 1: it for her. I heard a room that that was
Speaker 1: Carlos onto the table, and Teresa took all the credit
Speaker 1: for Carlos flipping that table. So I was under the
Speaker 1: table handy dang yelled the book that she placed on
Speaker 1: the table, and then you and then you flipped it,
Speaker 1: and then you flipped it because you said it's gonna
Speaker 1: be good. I wish I was that. I wish I
Speaker 1: was a little bright genius then, but I was that.
Speaker 1: Was that your first housewife show you worked on before?
Speaker 1: It was that before Atlanta? That was after Atlanta? So
Speaker 1: what's funny? And I did Atlanta season one, and and
Speaker 1: I had a break for like two weeks, and then
Speaker 1: I got a phone call about this housewife in New Jersey,
Speaker 1: and I decided to do New Jersey. Okay, but you weren't.
Speaker 1: You weren't EP on New Jersey, were you? No? No, No,
Speaker 1: I was in a gipping books underneath the table, Rabbit.
Speaker 1: You're a field producer. Okay, let's be clear. Act on
Speaker 1: Atlanta Girls. When I was at EP, Honey, I still
Speaker 1: was on my knees doing something to make sure the
Speaker 1: scene was great. So, so where did you start in
Speaker 1: in your producing career, Like, how did you get started? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I went to college and I majored in journalism.
Speaker 1: Because of that, I was afforded these internships. So I
Speaker 1: interned at The View, I entered at MTV. My last
Speaker 1: internship was at BT. A year later, I got a
Speaker 1: job as a p A working on one or six
Speaker 1: and Park and other shows. And then two years after that,
Speaker 1: I got a phone call from a mutual friend who said,
Speaker 1: I have this opportunity in Atlanta to do this reality
Speaker 1: show called Ladies of Hotlanta. You love reality TV? Would
Speaker 1: you be interested? And I was like, child, let me
Speaker 1: think and because I was like, you expect me to
Speaker 1: leave New York City and go to Atlanta? But I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm a man of faith. Let me
Speaker 1: do it. And it was the best decision of my
Speaker 1: career because the rest is history. Okay, so you didn't start.
Speaker 1: You weren't EP on season one Atlanta. No, No, I
Speaker 1: wasn't a p until season six of Atlanta, which is
Speaker 1: the highest season. And we know because and Nini called
Speaker 1: Peter a bit. Now I have a question, so, um,
Speaker 1: because we spoke of you and people that have worked
Speaker 1: producers on Potomac, who have been very influential in helping
Speaker 1: us get to where we are. Um However, give me
Speaker 1: an honest answer, Carlos, do you feel like do you
Speaker 1: feel like because you are a man okay, and and
Speaker 1: you're a man helping women tell their story, do you
Speaker 1: feel like you can do it better than a woman
Speaker 1: helping women tell their story? Is there is there disconnot
Speaker 1: a disconnect, but you know when women, we know what
Speaker 1: we go through, we feel it. Yeah, so I'm what
Speaker 1: do you have the Yeah, that's a that's a very
Speaker 1: great question. No, I don't think I have a um
Speaker 1: an edge over a woman who's also producer. UM. I
Speaker 1: think a woman who's producing a show that's dominated by women,
Speaker 1: she has to be confident in order to be honest
Speaker 1: with the women and not be intimidated by the woman.
Speaker 1: And I think the reality star who's a woman has
Speaker 1: to be able to feel comfortable sharing your personal business
Speaker 1: because let's let's just be real. Historically, women don't like
Speaker 1: to tell other women the business period. They just because
Speaker 1: it's one of the things where it's like, girl, I
Speaker 1: don't know you want my man, I don't know you
Speaker 1: want my life. I don't know if there's some single
Speaker 1: black or white female situation. So it takes a minute.
Speaker 1: So when you come to a talented man, Gail straight,
Speaker 1: there's a guard that's led down right because it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't take my man, and if you do, and
Speaker 1: if you can, I want another issue, right, um, And
Speaker 1: I'm able to at least give you more more of
Speaker 1: me because my guard is now. So I don't think that, um,
Speaker 1: we do a better job in women, not at all.
Speaker 1: I think women can do a great job. And what's
Speaker 1: funny is, let's talk to Giselle. I remember talking to
Speaker 1: you your first season. I remember you had a female
Speaker 1: Shaw runner and she called me and you guys were
Speaker 1: in the middle of getting a scene together, and Giselle said, oh, Carlos,
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna are for this third I did,
Speaker 1: and I was like, why did I come from? That's
Speaker 1: so funny? I ask that. Well, I, well, I knew
Speaker 1: that we had the same production company. People don't know this,
Speaker 1: but we have the same production company as Atlanta, Potoma does.
Speaker 1: And you were of producers. You're the only person that black.
Speaker 1: We know their name, right, So I just assumed that
Speaker 1: they would in Atlanta was great, So I just assumed
Speaker 1: that they would take whoever they were using in Atlanta
Speaker 1: and give them to us so that we could be great. Um,
Speaker 1: now I can say that the person that you were
Speaker 1: talking to, she was great for us. She gave us
Speaker 1: the tools. Yeah, she gave us the tools that we
Speaker 1: needed season one, season two. I can Carlos, and be honest,
Speaker 1: I can still hear her in my brain. Um. She
Speaker 1: has this saying called fix your face. And there's so
Speaker 1: many times where like I'm in a scene and that
Speaker 1: this face is jacked all the way up, but I
Speaker 1: need to fix it. And it's not anything that has
Speaker 1: to it's not anything that has to do with the cast.
Speaker 1: It's what's going on in producing like that. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes the producing of it all could be problematic, and
Speaker 1: you know, we get upset about it. But but she
Speaker 1: gave us wonderful tools to get us to a season.
Speaker 1: No season, Well are we supposed to say that? Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: we just did season I want to talk about now.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about you because Carlos, you know,
Speaker 1: we might have been in Miami and and Carlos Herd.
Speaker 1: We was in Miami and when I say, we me
Speaker 1: robbing and some other ladies and Carlos said, let me
Speaker 1: go meet the ladys that son Mike face to face
Speaker 1: up closing in personal and I totally loved it. Was
Speaker 1: so happy that you did that. I'm sure you're you know,
Speaker 1: you're a really busy guy and you took time out
Speaker 1: to come and meet us and just keep key. I mean,
Speaker 1: we had a good key kip with Carlos. Yes, no,
Speaker 1: and and listen, and I'll say this and I don't
Speaker 1: care gets mad. I am a black man in this
Speaker 1: business producing reality TV, and I'm such a fan of
Speaker 1: reality And one thing about me is I support all
Speaker 1: of my black females and males in this genre because
Speaker 1: I know how hard it is to be great in
Speaker 1: front of the camera being judged by the world. So
Speaker 1: Number one, I want to make it very clear, I
Speaker 1: am a fan. Number one, I thank you. I watched
Speaker 1: Potomac and I get my entire life. So when I
Speaker 1: was told that you ladies were well, that you two
Speaker 1: and some other folks were in Miami, I you don't
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you all this. I canceled two meetings
Speaker 1: and I said, and I said, I have to meet them.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan, just like meeting Beyonce. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I said, but Carlos is what
Speaker 1: you don't know. So after you laughing everything, um, Karen
Speaker 1: comes up to me and she says, at Giselle, did
Speaker 1: you did you get to meet the Carlos? Did you
Speaker 1: did you meet Carlos? I said, yes, bitch before you, Yes,
Speaker 1: I met Carlos. Okay, he came and saw me first,
Speaker 1: and look and look. Some other people were like, Carlos
Speaker 1: was here. I didn't see Carlos. Yeah, that's probably about this.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I listen. I love I love all
Speaker 1: of you, ladies, but I will say this, it was
Speaker 1: a pleasure beating the two of you. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say who us was in the room because I ain't stupid,
Speaker 1: but I have to say, first of all, guys, Gizelee
Speaker 1: and Robin are gorgeous in person, like like no makeup.
Speaker 1: We were in the bed, like when I said to you, guys,
Speaker 1: we had a key. We had a key key. And
Speaker 1: the beauty of talking to Gizelle and Robin was they're
Speaker 1: such great professionals and they know how to do their
Speaker 1: job and we just had a I don't want to
Speaker 1: spoil it, but we just had a good time talking
Speaker 1: about the show and the scenes and this and just
Speaker 1: reality TV. They threw me shade, you know it was
Speaker 1: It was fun and I want people to know that
Speaker 1: at the very end of the day, I am a
Speaker 1: huge fan of Potomac. And I say this all the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm not disrespecting my land of girls, who I
Speaker 1: will always love, but the real hospice of Potomac to
Speaker 1: me is the best housewives out right now amazing. So
Speaker 1: wait before before you switch topics. So when when you
Speaker 1: were um, when we were in the room, you called
Speaker 1: Giselle executive producer and you called me co executive producer.
Speaker 1: So what are you when you're watching Potomac? What are
Speaker 1: you seeing that makes you think that? Okay, So as
Speaker 1: a student, no, let let me not be so humble.
Speaker 1: As a professor of super sorry, Dr Wendy, I'm the
Speaker 1: professor tonight. So you're talking about they'll do it, they'll
Speaker 1: do it. So luck when I watched the show and
Speaker 1: that and that's the reason why I'm saying what I
Speaker 1: said earlier was the relationship between the producer and the
Speaker 1: cast members crucial because there's a level of trust. And
Speaker 1: when you talked about the female producer, who you still
Speaker 1: here in your ear like fix that face. I can't
Speaker 1: watch Potomac and a thing about the two of you,
Speaker 1: y'all play off of each other. And I'll give it.
Speaker 1: I'll give an example of two scenes that are I'll
Speaker 1: give three very quickly. I'll give three very quickly. Season one,
Speaker 1: episode one, Jeez, okay, because I do this ship for real.
Speaker 1: When Gizelle told Karen, y'all have this argument about the
Speaker 1: crab boils, and it was his whole thing in the mirror,
Speaker 1: I I knew in that instance, I said, Oh, Gizelle,
Speaker 1: it's like this has to be in the first episode.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a part of anything boring, so
Speaker 1: let me make sure to just be honest. And since
Speaker 1: Karen and are friends in real life, let me read
Speaker 1: her real quick and it won't matter. So that's a
Speaker 1: I'm not suber. One. Number two is last season when
Speaker 1: Professor Wendy and the two of you were on the couch.
Speaker 1: You guys are on the cash trip. Um Ashley took
Speaker 1: off maternity leave to be messy and to deliver the
Speaker 1: message to Dr Wendy and y'all to set on the couch.
Speaker 1: Wendy had was fed up to here y'all look on
Speaker 1: the couch and said, girl, I don't really give a ship.
Speaker 1: This was a great scene. I'm going to sip on
Speaker 1: my bottle water with the straw and Robin said, I'm
Speaker 1: going to literally finger myself as you talk about that.
Speaker 1: I was like, they are good, paired and last or
Speaker 1: not least last, but not least. When Ashley and Candice
Speaker 1: had that altercation in candice home and Ashley gave the
Speaker 1: read of girl, you mean your mama hig official mama table,
Speaker 1: which I think is everything and canvas stupid knife. That
Speaker 1: was all orchestrated because Robin said, I'm just gonna say it, Uh,
Speaker 1: your husband act like you set a flat out, and
Speaker 1: then Gazelle said, you leave it. I'll come back in
Speaker 1: the house because when you think I'm gonna work to
Speaker 1: do because the crew is here for another two hours.
Speaker 1: So that's what I mean when I say, you guys
Speaker 1: are the executive and the co EP. Okay, now now
Speaker 1: that you didn't broke that all the way down, we
Speaker 1: must agree and all right, so switch your gears a
Speaker 1: little bit. Switching gears a little bit because I know
Speaker 1: that um not not I know, but I've heard that
Speaker 1: you and Andy Cohen. Do you all have a relationship,
Speaker 1: because it seems like right now the trajectory of your career,
Speaker 1: Carlos is similar to Andy. Right, Um, do you feel
Speaker 1: like he's a mentor to you? Do you feel like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, do you'all talk y'all go to parties? Do
Speaker 1: you Are you invited to the Hamptons like I'm not.
Speaker 1: I am not invited to the Hamptons. No I'm not.
Speaker 1: But no, So here's somebody obviously I have the pleasure
Speaker 1: of work with for all the years I did Atlanta
Speaker 1: and New Jersey. And when it was announced that I
Speaker 1: had a podcast, he sent me a d M and
Speaker 1: he said, dude, you're killing get congratulations And I of
Speaker 1: course said thank you, and I said, look, I'm no idiot,
Speaker 1: like you paved the way for someone like me to
Speaker 1: have a career um in front of the camera because
Speaker 1: you shown that it can be done. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, what I will say on record
Speaker 1: is the fact that he is somebody that definitely paved
Speaker 1: the way. And I will always give the man his flowers. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So are you gonna have a surrogate and name the child?
Speaker 1: I mean, what's what, what's what's going to be for you? Well?
Speaker 1: You know, look, I want to be able to be
Speaker 1: the phase of black unscripted television. So I have a
Speaker 1: I have years before that can happen. Okay, when you
Speaker 1: turn fifty, right, okay, very good? Like I got got.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of years before I turned fifty.
Speaker 1: So look in your experience producing great reality television, how
Speaker 1: many times have you gotten cursed out by? Remember? Yes?
Speaker 1: Is it arranged from like? Um? And who has cursed
Speaker 1: you out the moment? Who's the best curse your best?
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna get So I've been cussed out by Nini Charai, Candy,
Speaker 1: Faedra Porscha, Marlowe, Kim I'm sorry, Kim Costume, Kim Zosiac yes, Um,
Speaker 1: Kim Fields. Okay, she didn't know what hit her at me?
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, honey, you better read me, honey. But no,
Speaker 1: the only person who has never yelled at me is
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore. Kenym Moore has never yelled at me when
Speaker 1: k so, let's talk about this. You know how, sometimes
Speaker 1: a producer can say, like, you know what, I think
Speaker 1: we should talk about this. We'll talk about that. And
Speaker 1: sometimes you're like, all right, final, I'll mark it up.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you're like, no, I'm not doing it right.
Speaker 1: So Kenya, Ken, you will give me this look and
Speaker 1: I know she's mad, she'll do this and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, ken is mad, but she she she
Speaker 1: has never raised her voice. So the person who has
Speaker 1: cut me out the best is and you're gonna gag
Speaker 1: Cynthia Bailey. You know what's funny that I mean that?
Speaker 1: So I have cursed out producers too. No no, no no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, let me help you, Carlos, let me help you,
Speaker 1: Let me help you. This is t so the first
Speaker 1: cursing out that Eric Fuller got. Yes, we're gonna mention
Speaker 1: his name, Robin. Yes. So you so it's funny you
Speaker 1: say Cynthia. And you know a lot of people kind
Speaker 1: of compared me to cynthio On on Potomac or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, it's funny you say that because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we might be quiet, we might be the nice, the
Speaker 1: laid back one, the easy one, but we have it
Speaker 1: in us like kiss us off, you piss us off.
Speaker 1: But I need to know why you custom ouse. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you why. So, um,
Speaker 1: it was season one and it was in the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season and me, Robin, and Katie were going
Speaker 1: to Charie's house. Okay, So Katie and I were in
Speaker 1: the bushes for some reason. That's the that's I think
Speaker 1: that was part of the scene. So we that, I mean,
Speaker 1: if we were in the car, we were in we
Speaker 1: went the car, but they didn't show that because we
Speaker 1: were in the car before we got started, and there
Speaker 1: was some information that Katie was told to talk about
Speaker 1: and she didn't know not to tell us. She told
Speaker 1: us before we started filming, okay, which was which is like,
Speaker 1: because you know, Katie wasn't Katie was just we were
Speaker 1: we were new okay. So so they were talking about
Speaker 1: wanting a scene. So, so, okay, season one, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest, I didn't know what the hell I signed
Speaker 1: up for. All she knew, I didn't know what I
Speaker 1: signed up for. Okay. So so season one, before we
Speaker 1: started filming, just I'm probably revealing too much at this point.
Speaker 1: So before production started, they asked me, is there anything
Speaker 1: that's off limits in your story? Right? You know that's
Speaker 1: a setup, you know, how y'all do that's a set up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, they asked me that, yes, and I said, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Wane wand doesn't really want to talk about
Speaker 1: his financial issues. Okay. So we pull up to a scene,
Speaker 1: we're in a car. We're like, they're holding us, right,
Speaker 1: and Katie is like, yeah, um, I was with Ashley
Speaker 1: today and actually was talking about you know, one had
Speaker 1: y'all had twenty five and one y'all file for bankruptcy
Speaker 1: and all this, and I right, I mean, in hindsight,
Speaker 1: Katie should have saved all of that for the scene.
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, because that would have been and yeah,
Speaker 1: iconic scenes you talk about, that would have been amazing.
Speaker 1: So then Eric comes to the car to be like okay, guys, okay, guys,
Speaker 1: it's time for you guys to go into Teresus and
Speaker 1: Robin was like, hew fucking gets out to car, curse
Speaker 1: Eric out to smithereens. Okay, I was clutching my pearls.
Speaker 1: I said, we God damn so um Robin left. She
Speaker 1: left the scene the scene she said, don't call me
Speaker 1: no more. I quit. This was this was two weeks
Speaker 1: in the season one. Robin quit. I told you, I
Speaker 1: don't know what I signed up for y'all reason about
Speaker 1: shady exclusive it is it is I quit, I don't
Speaker 1: and and so for me to still be here seven
Speaker 1: years later, like I guess I got over really quickly.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, and so now my what I
Speaker 1: say to people when they get all mad, it's what
Speaker 1: you signed up for. Yes, it is. It definitely is.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that this is facts? Because this is
Speaker 1: Robin and I always say we always say that if
Speaker 1: you get through a season as a People on Our
Speaker 1: sidecast and as if at some point in the season
Speaker 1: you didn't want to run away cry because everybody out,
Speaker 1: leave your family and just go hide it under a rock,
Speaker 1: then you're not doing your job. Like every season you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta throw it all on the table. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I can't hardly believe that. Listen. I will always defend
Speaker 1: my reality cast, not people I just work with. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the industry as a whole. It takes a
Speaker 1: lot of courage to get in front of a camera
Speaker 1: and tell your business and and and to to to
Speaker 1: talk about things that you don't want to talk about.
Speaker 1: That takes a lot of courage. So if you aren't
Speaker 1: having anxiety or feeling like I want to quit or
Speaker 1: feeling like, damn, this is gonna be bad, then you
Speaker 1: were being honest because one thing I will say, everybody
Speaker 1: in their lives have something going on that they would
Speaker 1: prefer to keep under the rug. We all I have
Speaker 1: that there's ship that goes on with me. I'm like
Speaker 1: the Lord Jesus. But if I signed on to be
Speaker 1: a reality star, I want to be the best, and
Speaker 1: I have the personality of if you don't want to
Speaker 1: be great, then why I sign up to do it? Right? Right?
Speaker 1: We we we totally agree. Well, see my perspective different
Speaker 1: because I signed up, Like I said, I didn't know
Speaker 1: what I signed up for, and when the opportunity presented itself,
Speaker 1: I was just kind of like, oh, you only live once, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll try it for me. I wasn't
Speaker 1: you know, Oh I want to be you know, a
Speaker 1: superstar And and to be honest, does that will tell you?
Speaker 1: Like to this day, I still don't think I'm like famous,
Speaker 1: Like I'm still it's still weird to me that I'm
Speaker 1: on reality TV. That's just my personality. I'm I'm laid back.
Speaker 1: I don't think coming if I'm wrong. I don't think
Speaker 1: you or Ashley care about that in my opinion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Nashley too. Yeah, we're we're pretty much. I will
Speaker 1: probably say like I'm the same person today that I
Speaker 1: was seven years ago or eight years ago before the show.
Speaker 1: You know, like it hasn't it doesn't consume my life. Um,
Speaker 1: and you know, I want to go back to the
Speaker 1: conversation about you know, people you know watching the shows
Speaker 1: and and and thinking they have to act a certain way.
Speaker 1: It's hard because it's like on Reality's like Okay, you
Speaker 1: want to watch because you want to know, like you
Speaker 1: wanna know what happens, right as a as a cast member,
Speaker 1: I want to say, Okay, what's happening on these other shows?
Speaker 1: But then a part of me doesn't want to watch
Speaker 1: because I don't want to think that I have to
Speaker 1: act like Teresa or Dorenda or Ramona or whoever Erica. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to think, let me watch these shows
Speaker 1: and act like them and say what they say and
Speaker 1: do what they do. So you know, for me, I've
Speaker 1: always just been like you know what, I'm gonna be myself.
Speaker 1: I'm not really into it, like you know, trying to
Speaker 1: pretend to be someone I'm not. I know what they
Speaker 1: say about me. I don't care. That's why you're great
Speaker 1: at what you do. Yeah, you don't have to be
Speaker 1: the loudest in the room to have a moment. And
Speaker 1: to your point, Robin, let's talk about the real housewives
Speaker 1: of Dubaye, right, which I like to say the real
Speaker 1: housewives of Bye Bye. For me, those women studied every
Speaker 1: single housewife and it's hard for me to get into
Speaker 1: them because I don't think they're being themselves. What do
Speaker 1: y'all think? Okay, I've only seen one, maybe one and
Speaker 1: a half episodes. The only thing that stands out to
Speaker 1: me is the is the model girl? Right, But I
Speaker 1: think he's talking about her. I feel like, but I
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, yes, she's at least entertaining to watch
Speaker 1: the others is like paint drying, right, So she keeps me,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for her for the next scene, so I
Speaker 1: will give her that. Yeah, are were about to be clips?
Speaker 1: They're gonna clip this up? Jeez? No, But I agree.
Speaker 1: The thing is this. The thing is this When you
Speaker 1: look at someone like Chanelle on Dubai, you're already interesting,
Speaker 1: You're you're you're gorgeous, you have this interesting look. Everything
Speaker 1: about your life to me is interesting. You don't have
Speaker 1: to try hard to be the moment, just be you
Speaker 1: because you already have it. Aesthetically, some miss think go
Speaker 1: into the scene and make magic happen. And that's the
Speaker 1: reason why in my opinion, and this is no shade,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. That's why Potomac Yes became great
Speaker 1: half this season two babies not after season two. What
Speaker 1: happened to season one? See season one was not good.
Speaker 1: People need to figure out where who who we are
Speaker 1: and you know, let's let's let's keep it all the
Speaker 1: way real. Carlos TV had not seen people like us,
Speaker 1: had not seen light skinned, green eye bandits, had didn't
Speaker 1: understand okay, they educated their black women, they went to
Speaker 1: college like you know, that was so foreign back then,
Speaker 1: and so I felt I felt like people just needed
Speaker 1: to especially our culture, needed to understand. Yeah, we with y'all,
Speaker 1: like we we down, We're bout about it now. I
Speaker 1: think Bravo wanted to establish us as they didn't even
Speaker 1: confused as to what we were gonna be. So it
Speaker 1: was like this big whole etiquette thing, right remember that. Unfortunately, Yes,
Speaker 1: we didn't get it either. But I don't know what
Speaker 1: season two, what happened? We just got ratchet? What do
Speaker 1: we do? I mean, he's I don't know. I guess
Speaker 1: he's talking about the addition of some people that he
Speaker 1: works closely with. That's what I'm gonna assume. Is that
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, Carlos? Oh it know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about? No, don't do it. I love it all right.
Speaker 1: So this is a portion of the episode of the show, Carlos,
Speaker 1: and which you can ask us anything, say whatever you
Speaker 1: gotta says anything, tell us anything, you know what you
Speaker 1: gotta say? What? Oh, and tell us what would you
Speaker 1: do differently in Potomac or if you were a producer
Speaker 1: in Potomac, what do you see? Like, Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: are there things that you would have tried to produce
Speaker 1: differently or or you know, I don't know. That's a
Speaker 1: very good question. Okay, So I'm happy to report that
Speaker 1: after season one where season one half potential, but like
Speaker 1: Gazelle admitted, it was all about etiquette, and no one
Speaker 1: gives a shit about that, right, I am going to
Speaker 1: say this, and I'm gonna be very real. Starting from
Speaker 1: season two, you you guys have excelled tremendously, to the
Speaker 1: point of I wouldn't have done anything differently. I think
Speaker 1: you guys haven't going on thank you, go on thank
Speaker 1: you and I and I've said, I've said that the
Speaker 1: secret Sauce and the beauty of Potomac is that you know,
Speaker 1: because we were the last standing o G. So like me,
Speaker 1: Rob and Ashley Karen have a chemistry about us that, um,
Speaker 1: people want to see season after season, right. I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: we've gotten some people that have come and go along
Speaker 1: the way, But but to keep the originals together for
Speaker 1: this long I think has been very productive for the show.
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. If it ain't, don't fix it.
Speaker 1: And your franchise does a marvelous job at casting. Y'all
Speaker 1: cast some good people to be on the show. It's
Speaker 1: actually really hard to cast our show though, you know that, right. No,
Speaker 1: it's funny. I know the casting and he used to
Speaker 1: do it for years and he said the same thing.
Speaker 1: But you guys find great people in the midst of
Speaker 1: the struggle, like Monique and Wendy and Candice and Mia.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I scala no, no, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Scalar no, ma'am. No, mam, but I want to say
Speaker 1: I think Mia was a great addition. I think that
Speaker 1: she brings you know, I always like something different, you know,
Speaker 1: Mia brings something different and and she and she owns
Speaker 1: her ship. She she stands on who and what she is.
Speaker 1: I love that. No, I mean, but I agree with
Speaker 1: everything he said. I think everyone has been Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think everyone's been a great addition. And yes, it's really
Speaker 1: hard to cast this show. But but you're right, it's
Speaker 1: like finding diamonds in the rough, you know, and and
Speaker 1: it's and maybe that's why you know I'm still here.
Speaker 1: I'm the boring one, and I'm still here because you
Speaker 1: can't find that many people to replace me. So you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, And let me. I'm
Speaker 1: a comment on that, and then I'm gonna ask all
Speaker 1: the questions. I don't think you're boring at all. Not
Speaker 1: everybody on Housewide needs to be this big, boisterous personality.
Speaker 1: And I need somebody who's level headed. You need somebody
Speaker 1: who's the peacemaker, and you need somebody who's there and
Speaker 1: and not you know this this this this sort of
Speaker 1: like big, like I said, personality, And I think you
Speaker 1: offer that to the show. So I don't think you're boring.
Speaker 1: Cynthia was not boring at all. Um, So it does
Speaker 1: bother me when people say that. Yeah, Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think on any show you need balance. Like, if
Speaker 1: you had six knees on the show, it would be chaos.
Speaker 1: You know, if you have sixs on the show, it
Speaker 1: would be chaos. You know, So you definitely need balance.
Speaker 1: And and then you know, and then the other thing
Speaker 1: is like, you know, not everyone is everyone's cup of tea.
Speaker 1: That's fine. That's why there's six, seven, eight housewives on
Speaker 1: the show, because you're not going to like every single one.
Speaker 1: So and some people like the you know, aspirational part
Speaker 1: of housewives, but other people like the relatable part of housewives.
Speaker 1: So I just I mean, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: it's good to show both, but I do, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I laugh at it. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still here. If I'm so boring, I'm still here.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm obviously doing something right. All right, we
Speaker 1: got time for one question. You have one question, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, just one a you can have to, you
Speaker 1: can have to, Okay, I gotta make a good okay,
Speaker 1: And y'all better be honest. Would y'all say Monique Samuel's
Speaker 1: was good for the show, really that's your question. Oh God, listen,
Speaker 1: he's been dying to say her name. He's been dying
Speaker 1: so so so this is this is probably gonna, I
Speaker 1: don't know, upset some people, maybe because people are very sensitive.
Speaker 1: So when season one, when we filmed the show and
Speaker 1: season one was about to premiere, I said, we don't
Speaker 1: have any color on this show. I said, we're to
Speaker 1: light skin. We need some brown skinned people on the show.
Speaker 1: And I said, people aren't going to connect with us,
Speaker 1: you know, people who are you know, used to watching Atlanta,
Speaker 1: So they're not going to connect with us because they're
Speaker 1: going to just see a cast full of light skinned people.
Speaker 1: So when Monique was cast it, I was so happy.
Speaker 1: I was so happy to see a beautiful, brown skinned
Speaker 1: woman cast on our show who's living the Potomac life
Speaker 1: that they wanted to see. I thought she was a
Speaker 1: fabulous addition to our show. You know, not just for
Speaker 1: that reason alone, but I thought that was so important
Speaker 1: for people to see that um and for for them
Speaker 1: to be able to connect to us. And I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I think she was a good addition to
Speaker 1: the show. Of course, we we had success, so you know,
Speaker 1: and I think you know, a lot of it is
Speaker 1: that people tuned in, they saw all Monique, they said,
Speaker 1: oh well, let me watch this show and see what
Speaker 1: it's about. And then people were able to appreciate the
Speaker 1: show for what it was and not look at the
Speaker 1: show and say I can't relate to anyone. So just
Speaker 1: for that reason alone, I think she was a great addition.
Speaker 1: And so I agree with everything that Robin said. But
Speaker 1: currently she's exactly where she should be, which is with
Speaker 1: you on another network. No, and I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Okay, so my next question, it'll
Speaker 1: be quick, is two and one. But it's easy. Okay,
Speaker 1: you ready, out of the current Real Housewives of Potomac cast,
Speaker 1: besides just Zelling Robin, who is the top housewife that
Speaker 1: you think brings it and who is the least interesting
Speaker 1: housewife that brings it? I can answer this because it's
Speaker 1: because I think it changes here. It does change, it
Speaker 1: changes year after year. But I can say, and this
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a spoiler alert for season seven,
Speaker 1: I hope Andy don't fire me. Karen come brings it.
Speaker 1: This season. Yes she does, and it wait wait, meaning
Speaker 1: Karen is Karen is wanted to straddle the fence, not
Speaker 1: give her opinion, you know, kind of play it safe.
Speaker 1: The Grand Dame does not do that, okay. And the
Speaker 1: least she doesn't know she she she's spilling tea like
Speaker 1: Karen was spilling tea this season. When does she ever
Speaker 1: spill tea? She has a spilled tea in seven seasons. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I think it's a different side to her.
Speaker 1: I know why Ram is not agreeing with me right now.
Speaker 1: And the least, who would you say, is the least
Speaker 1: what was the question? Was the least at least interesting,
Speaker 1: least important, or at least all of the above? Says Look,
Speaker 1: I'm let you answer that. Can wait wait, let me
Speaker 1: answer the first part. I don't agree with um, Karen.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say. Ashley, Oh yeah, well, I mean
Speaker 1: but but I think Ashley is not a surprise considering
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah. I think I feel like Ashley saw
Speaker 1: last year and was like, oh, it's time to play,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see a very different a very You're
Speaker 1: gonna see a different Ashley. You're gonna see the old
Speaker 1: Ashley but you're gonna see a very different Ashley. Yeah. Okay, true, true, Okay,
Speaker 1: So Karen and Ashley, we'll give it to them. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: Lord the least, and she's not gonna answer that. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna answer that in that second call. You can
Speaker 1: answer just like process of elimination. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, okay, I'm not answered. Listen, Carlos,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer that. Okay, this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: The season is going to premiere. We're gonna talk to
Speaker 1: you again on your podcast, and I will answer that
Speaker 1: question for you, Okay, and I will give reasons why. Okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough. I mean we know because the thing about
Speaker 1: is this, Okay, I I think I may know who
Speaker 1: the answer is, but I don't want to speculate, so
Speaker 1: we will wait and you'll announce it on Reality of
Speaker 1: the King pot Yes, okay, perfect, Okay, yes, yes, so
Speaker 1: tell us. I'm not spl it and I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: spoil it, but I'll say this much. I am hearing
Speaker 1: this upcoming season, Darling's explosive and fantastic da I heard
Speaker 1: the same thing you guys are coming for the Crown
Speaker 1: of Belly Hills. Oh listen, Carlos, um I concur listen.
Speaker 1: I heard the same thing, and you know, I hope
Speaker 1: the ratings reflect that. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I gotta say,
Speaker 1: carl before we leave, let's let Carlos talk about Okay,
Speaker 1: your podcast, your show and stuck all your time they
Speaker 1: come on, Not that he hasn't already done that in
Speaker 1: the whole podcast. Yes, where we can. Okay, by the way,
Speaker 1: By the way, this was like the best key key
Speaker 1: we've had on reasonably Shady in a very long time. Like, Carlos,
Speaker 1: you are a good key key. I feel like we
Speaker 1: should we should make this a regular thing. No, we're
Speaker 1: gonna we'll have him back. Okay after we're like midway
Speaker 1: through season seven, after that starts airing, We're gonna have
Speaker 1: you come back so you can give us your critiques
Speaker 1: all season seven. Yes, that's good. I would love it.
Speaker 1: But no, no, I'm just gonna say that what the
Speaker 1: listeners just heard is exactly what happened when we all
Speaker 1: met for the first time. It was it was a
Speaker 1: key key it was fun. So I'm glad that you
Speaker 1: guys thought that chemistry. I just want to let the
Speaker 1: listeners know Carlos is very tight. Yeah, because I remember
Speaker 1: when when we saw you, I was like feeling on
Speaker 1: your on your box, like, oh works, don't are done, honey.
Speaker 1: Just want to let y'all know, Carlos King is a
Speaker 1: snack Okay, be clear, total clear. That thing is snack up. Okay.
Speaker 1: He does not play on your side of the street,
Speaker 1: and that is totally fine. But for the other side
Speaker 1: of the street, he is quite snack a ball. Okay.
Speaker 1: So boys, your heart out, come for the King, and
Speaker 1: in a different kind of way, come for the kid.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what, Lord, But you know, I
Speaker 1: remember he smelled good. Yeah, and he was nice and tight. Yes,
Speaker 1: that thing okay, car And I'm not mad. I'm not mad. No,
Speaker 1: he's no, he's not rich. He rich Ritchen, He's a
Speaker 1: double rich as well. Okay, all right, we have to go, Carlos.
Speaker 1: You's got no more time, all right, y'all listen to
Speaker 1: it for Carlos. Follow me on at Carlos King Underscored
Speaker 1: to find out what I'm doing. That's all right, thank you,
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