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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of the Black Effect

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of Reasonably Shady. I am Gazelle Bryant. So what's up everyone,

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Speaker 1: This is Robin Dixon. Thank you once again forgiving us

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Speaker 1: your ears. Yes, especially in the summertime, because you know,

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Speaker 1: like in the summer, people go vacant. People are outside

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Speaker 1: outside traveling. Yes they are, you know, to be listening.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe they listened to us at the pool, Oh

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Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, or maybe they're you know, there's people

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Speaker 1: hopefully you're still working out and you're listening to us

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Speaker 1: on your workout or on your way to work, but

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Speaker 1: you're you're really not working these days. Who's working right

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Speaker 1: by the way, okay? But the traffic in the working

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Speaker 1: in the in the gas prices. So I saw something

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Speaker 1: on the internet about the gas prices in other countries.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're like double as it is absurd. What is happening?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm gonna talk to pootin when

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Speaker 1: is okay? When when I need to look up like traditionally,

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Speaker 1: So first of all, they said inflation is at nine

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Speaker 1: point one percent, which is like the highest it's been

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Speaker 1: in like forty years or something forty one years out

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Speaker 1: of control. When is that going to go backwards? When

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Speaker 1: when is that going to reverse? Like? How long are

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Speaker 1: we going to be in this? Because this is something

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Speaker 1: bad is gonna happen, but I pray not. But in

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Speaker 1: order for it to switch, something bad's gotta happen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: can we talk like, is Russia still they're still fighting?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but if they are about to call

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Speaker 1: poot and keep telling y'all, I'm okay. Anyway, alright, per usual,

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Speaker 1: we're getting into our reasonably shady moment of the week,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna go right into it because these

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Speaker 1: kids are mine. You know what, Just when you think

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Speaker 1: they love you, they slap you in the face of

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Speaker 1: and you realize maybe they don't what happened. So I've

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Speaker 1: got to go out of town. And it's kind of

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Speaker 1: been stressing me at a little bit because I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: leaving them for longer than I would normally leave them.

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Speaker 1: And I've been like all up in their face, jumping

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Speaker 1: in their beds, trying to be up under them, and

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Speaker 1: they're like, ma get away. So I'm like, guys, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm traveling I'm doing I'm doing some things and I'm

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Speaker 1: really gonna miss you all, and they're like, Bama, like

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Speaker 1: they don't care at all that I'm leaving. And I

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Speaker 1: feel like my kids are a little shady. They're a

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Speaker 1: little bit too much like me. Yeah, but you know

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Speaker 1: when you're going, they'll miss you. So but but but

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Speaker 1: that is kind of like, okay, so was there a

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Speaker 1: time or how long ago was it when the same

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Speaker 1: scenario we would be taking place and they're like oh no,

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Speaker 1: and and they're crying, Well, I we we went from

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Speaker 1: tears I used to get tears too, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you, and then wanting to like get

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Speaker 1: every piece of me that they that they could before

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Speaker 1: I left too. They don't give two stocks about me.

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Speaker 1: They're like goodbye. Well they are what sixteen and seventeen. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Grace is basically putting up the deuces sign like peace out, mom. Yeah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so so I have so Corey's fourteen, so I have

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Speaker 1: like a couple more years, a couple more years, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he's still you know, I feel like a lot

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Speaker 1: of kids at fourteen are on re like that, like

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Speaker 1: they don't want anything to do with their parents. Corey

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Speaker 1: is still like likes me, he still loves me, but

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Speaker 1: he done much longer. Okay, well I'm sorry, it's okay.

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Speaker 1: You have me. I know, I know Robin doesn't care

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Speaker 1: about me either, But do you have a recently shady moment?

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Speaker 1: I do. It's just another event kind of situation. I'm counting. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, you go to the nail salon, you get

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Speaker 1: your you know, your your mani and your petty and

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Speaker 1: the nails, like, oh, you want gel on your toes

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Speaker 1: and like usually I'm like, no, I don't need Joe.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do paint polish or whatever, but like

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Speaker 1: white paint chips. So I was like, yeah, let's do Joe. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 1: worst decision ever, worst because it really weakens your toenails.

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Speaker 1: And so like my big like look at this, you

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Speaker 1: see this, Like it literally my nails split like deep

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Speaker 1: and not that it hurts, but it's like if you

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Speaker 1: just like play with your toenail, it's splitting, it's coming

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Speaker 1: off toails. Are we's gonna take a picture off her

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Speaker 1: toeail that we're talking about. She's gonna posting on her

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Speaker 1: stories because it looks crazy. I mean, but this the

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Speaker 1: piece came off, but it literally was like flipped up

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Speaker 1: that whole that whole piece was just like flipped up.

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Speaker 1: So the Gael like really weakened your toenails. I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's good to know. It's good

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Speaker 1: to know people that said that's a good tip. And okay,

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Speaker 1: And so this is the second time I had to

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Speaker 1: so this toe, my other big toe. This is acrylic

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Speaker 1: on my toe because the Gael weakened my toe nail,

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Speaker 1: you know, So when they so when I got my

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Speaker 1: nails polished again, and I had like a big split

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Speaker 1: in it right there, like, oh, well, we can't pull

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Speaker 1: that off. It's gonna hurt. So let's put a crylic

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Speaker 1: on it, literally crylic on my big toes. So you

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Speaker 1: got tricked into a crylic basically, it's what you're saying, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well it's just acrylic right here. But I'm I'm taking

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Speaker 1: this off, like I don't ship and now I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm stuck, right because it's the summertime, right, so

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Speaker 1: I can't So if I take the gel off, you know,

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Speaker 1: you want to let you give your your nails time

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Speaker 1: to like get stronger and and grow in but it's

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Speaker 1: the summertime. I can't have my nails, my toe nails

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Speaker 1: not painting. No, that one Dixon is not having now

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Speaker 1: he is not walking down the street with you. And

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Speaker 1: you tells the jack yes. And then when if I

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Speaker 1: take the gel off of these nails, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: so we I don't know what to do. Let's stop. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you stock you're stuck with gel on your toes until

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Speaker 1: you're seventy five. Let's tell like the fall until it's

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Speaker 1: time to like cover the toes. Alright, guys, we have

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Speaker 1: an amazing show for you. Guys, we are talking to

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Speaker 1: none other than Carlos King, King King. And if you

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Speaker 1: don't know who he is, um, and I have to

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Speaker 1: really explain to you who he is, you might be

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Speaker 1: a loser. So it is reasonably shade sters. We have

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Speaker 1: for us to date a guest who really needs no introduction. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna introduce him anyway. So he is what

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Speaker 1: is he robbing? Oh my gosh, the producer extraordinaire, Mr Carlos,

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Speaker 1: kids of many many television shows. He's got a new podcast,

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Speaker 1: He's got a new nighttime talk show. Carlos Like, let

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Speaker 1: us get us right, tell us run down your resume,

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Speaker 1: up everything. Yeah, you guys did a great job. So

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Speaker 1: you know, people call me the King of reality television.

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Speaker 1: People or you or yourself. Oh honey, like Beyonce's bee Hive.

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Speaker 1: I don't come up with the moniker. My fans do.

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Speaker 1: Just check it, ye. So you know, i am called

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Speaker 1: the King of reality television, and I've been producing reality

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Speaker 1: TV for fifteen years, starting with the Real house Spots

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta, which was my first reality show. I'm the

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Speaker 1: first black man ever to executive produce a Real Housewives

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Speaker 1: franchise and paved the way for others. Hey, Eric Fuller,

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Speaker 1: Eric Eric Um. I have a late night show on

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Speaker 1: own called The Nightcap with Carlos King that air Saturday's

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Speaker 1: at ten o'clock on the Upper Morfrey Network. I'm the

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Speaker 1: creator of the Love and Match franchise, which has Hunt's

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Speaker 1: Bill and d C starring Gizelle's best friend Money Samuel.

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Speaker 1: Podcast called Reality with the King, which is a shady,

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Speaker 1: reasonable podcast. Like yeah, okay, so we're gonna start with

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Speaker 1: some ice breakers a little bit. Okay, this is rapid fire,

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Speaker 1: rapid fire, Carlos Okay, you ready, Okay, favorite Colorady favorite

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Speaker 1: color blue blue, Beyonce, Arihanna, Beyonce, Nicki, Minaja, Cardi ban Nicki, Minaj,

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Speaker 1: Potomac or Atlanta. Oh, no shade right now? Potomac okay,

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Speaker 1: and no shade because we love Atlanta and they paid

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Speaker 1: the way, yes, but they paid the way. But don't

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Speaker 1: make anybody man please. Yes, but Carlos King has said

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Speaker 1: Potomac okay. And that's huge, just for the record for

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Speaker 1: Carlos to say that, because we know that Atlanta is

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Speaker 1: your baby, you know, when it comes to producing and

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Speaker 1: when it comes to talking about the Real Housewives of Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: it's simos. What's not simultaneous, Simo is Carlos is in

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Speaker 1: the equation. Okay. There is no Atlanta without Carlos King. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So so you know what, Carlos I. On a recent

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Speaker 1: episode of Reasonably Shady, I kind of went on a

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Speaker 1: rant about how I feel like social media has kind

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Speaker 1: of um changed the landscape of of the Real Housewives.

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Speaker 1: Like we were kind of being nostalgic about early Atlanta Housewives, yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, seasons one through four or five, whatever, And

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Speaker 1: I was saying, I really feel like now because social

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Speaker 1: media is so prevalent in in you know, almost so

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Speaker 1: toxic that it has changed the way that people on

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Speaker 1: these shows act and the things that they say, the

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Speaker 1: things they do, the way that they look, so that

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Speaker 1: now you're not really getting the real raw person and

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Speaker 1: the things that they would really say and how they

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Speaker 1: were interact with one another. You're getting people who are guarded,

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Speaker 1: who are worried about, yes, filtered, who are who are

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Speaker 1: worried about you know what the fans are gonna say, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been canceled dealing with the backlass of social media. Like,

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Speaker 1: so do you agree with that? Because I was like,

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Speaker 1: I really miss you know nothing, you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: when you think about it's like, wow, like you if

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Speaker 1: you sit and watch Atlanta season one to three, it's

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Speaker 1: so different than anything that's on TV right now. If

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Speaker 1: you watch Beverly Hills seasons one to three, it's so different,

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Speaker 1: Like things have just changed so much. So do your thought, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I listen, I agree one a hundred person And I

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Speaker 1: produced the first episode, first season of the Real Hospital

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Speaker 1: of Atlanta in two thousand and eight, right, so I

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Speaker 1: was there when Ninie Leagus, Kim Zosiac, Chara Whitfield, de

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Speaker 1: Sean Snow Lisa Wu like, these women were the blueprint,

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Speaker 1: and the reason why they were the blueprint is because

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Speaker 1: they didn't have anybody to study. They were truly being themselves.

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Speaker 1: There was no social media. What has happened now, especially

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Speaker 1: when it comes to let's talk about the Housewives fan base.

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Speaker 1: The Housewives fan base who I love because they followed

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Speaker 1: my career. They're fantastic some of them. Some of them

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Speaker 1: are very toxic, and it's it's it's it's it's ruining

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Speaker 1: the fun of watching the show, and it's ruining the

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Speaker 1: fund of producing the show. I will say when I

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Speaker 1: it wasn't around the time where I felt that some

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Speaker 1: of those women, we're behaving because they cared about what

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Speaker 1: social media was going to say and and and there

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Speaker 1: they come across very guarded. I'll gep an example. Deret

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Speaker 1: on Beverly Hills was iconic when she first came onto

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Speaker 1: the scene. She was interesting, she was fun. The fans

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Speaker 1: hated the read her first and second season, but I

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Speaker 1: loved her because I said, she's ballsy, she's brave, and

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Speaker 1: she speaks her mind. Deret is so boring. She has

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Speaker 1: nothing going on Twitter, ruined deret do not care about

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Speaker 1: the rented clothes that you get from the stylist in

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Speaker 1: the nine o two one oh the code. I could

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Speaker 1: care less about your alleged um businesses of you trying

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Speaker 1: to make over a corner of a restaurant and we

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Speaker 1: don't see it anymore. I do not care about your

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Speaker 1: wedding dresses you're trying to promote when I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: it all this season. Time outwards, time out, time out. Okay,

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Speaker 1: first of all, first of all, we started this, and y'all,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we recorded it. Carlo said he was

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Speaker 1: that we had the same production company. People don't know this,

422
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: but we have the same production company as Atlanta, Potoma does.

423
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: And you were of producers. You're the only person that black.

424
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: We know their name, right, So I just assumed that

425
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: they would in Atlanta was great, So I just assumed

426
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: that they would take whoever they were using in Atlanta

427
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: and give them to us so that we could be great. Um,

428
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: now I can say that the person that you were

429
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: talking to, she was great for us. She gave us

430
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: the tools. Yeah, she gave us the tools that we

431
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: needed season one, season two. I can Carlos, and be honest,

432
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: I can still hear her in my brain. Um. She

433
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: has this saying called fix your face. And there's so

434
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: many times where like I'm in a scene and that

435
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: this face is jacked all the way up, but I

436
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: need to fix it. And it's not anything that has

437
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: to it's not anything that has to do with the cast.

438
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: It's what's going on in producing like that. You know,

439
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: sometimes the producing of it all could be problematic, and

440
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, we get upset about it. But but she

441
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: gave us wonderful tools to get us to a season.

442
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: No season, Well are we supposed to say that? Okay, fine,

443
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: we just did season I want to talk about now.

444
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: I want to talk about you because Carlos, you know,

445
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: we might have been in Miami and and Carlos Herd.

446
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: We was in Miami and when I say, we me

447
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: robbing and some other ladies and Carlos said, let me

448
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: go meet the ladys that son Mike face to face

449
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: up closing in personal and I totally loved it. Was

450
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: so happy that you did that. I'm sure you're you know,

451
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: you're a really busy guy and you took time out

452
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: to come and meet us and just keep key. I mean,

453
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: we had a good key kip with Carlos. Yes, no,

454
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: and and listen, and I'll say this and I don't

455
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: care gets mad. I am a black man in this

456
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: business producing reality TV, and I'm such a fan of

457
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: reality And one thing about me is I support all

458
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: of my black females and males in this genre because

459
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: I know how hard it is to be great in

460
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 1: front of the camera being judged by the world. So

461
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Number one, I want to make it very clear, I

462
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 1: am a fan. Number one, I thank you. I watched

463
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 1: Potomac and I get my entire life. So when I

464
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: was told that you ladies were well, that you two

465
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: and some other folks were in Miami, I you don't

466
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you all this. I canceled two meetings

467
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: and I said, and I said, I have to meet them.

468
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm a fan, just like meeting Beyonce. Oh my gosh.

469
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I said, but Carlos is what

470
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: you don't know. So after you laughing everything, um, Karen

471
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: comes up to me and she says, at Giselle, did

472
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: you did you get to meet the Carlos? Did you

473
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: did you meet Carlos? I said, yes, bitch before you, Yes,

474
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: I met Carlos. Okay, he came and saw me first,

475
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: and look and look. Some other people were like, Carlos

476
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: was here. I didn't see Carlos. Yeah, that's probably about this.

477
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I listen. I love I love all

478
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: of you, ladies, but I will say this, it was

479
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: a pleasure beating the two of you. I'm not gonna

480
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: say who us was in the room because I ain't stupid,

481
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: but I have to say, first of all, guys, Gizelee

482
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: and Robin are gorgeous in person, like like no makeup.

483
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: We were in the bed, like when I said to you, guys,

484
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: we had a key. We had a key key. And

485
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: the beauty of talking to Gizelle and Robin was they're

486
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: such great professionals and they know how to do their

487
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: job and we just had a I don't want to

488
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: spoil it, but we just had a good time talking

489
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: about the show and the scenes and this and just

490
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: reality TV. They threw me shade, you know it was

491
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: It was fun and I want people to know that

492
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: at the very end of the day, I am a

493
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: huge fan of Potomac. And I say this all the time,

494
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: and I'm not disrespecting my land of girls, who I

495
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: will always love, but the real hospice of Potomac to

496
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: me is the best housewives out right now amazing. So

497
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: wait before before you switch topics. So when when you

498
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: were um, when we were in the room, you called

499
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: Giselle executive producer and you called me co executive producer.

500
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: So what are you when you're watching Potomac? What are

501
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: you seeing that makes you think that? Okay, So as

502
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: a student, no, let let me not be so humble.

503
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: As a professor of super sorry, Dr Wendy, I'm the

504
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: professor tonight. So you're talking about they'll do it, they'll

505
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: do it. So luck when I watched the show and

506
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: that and that's the reason why I'm saying what I

507
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: said earlier was the relationship between the producer and the

508
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: cast members crucial because there's a level of trust. And

509
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: when you talked about the female producer, who you still

510
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: here in your ear like fix that face. I can't

511
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: watch Potomac and a thing about the two of you,

512
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: y'all play off of each other. And I'll give it.

513
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: I'll give an example of two scenes that are I'll

514
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: give three very quickly. I'll give three very quickly. Season one,

515
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: episode one, Jeez, okay, because I do this ship for real.

516
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: When Gizelle told Karen, y'all have this argument about the

517
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: crab boils, and it was his whole thing in the mirror,

518
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: I I knew in that instance, I said, Oh, Gizelle,

519
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: it's like this has to be in the first episode.

520
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a part of anything boring, so

521
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: let me make sure to just be honest. And since

522
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: Karen and are friends in real life, let me read

523
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: her real quick and it won't matter. So that's a

524
00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm not suber. One. Number two is last season when

525
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: Professor Wendy and the two of you were on the couch.

526
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: You guys are on the cash trip. Um Ashley took

527
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: off maternity leave to be messy and to deliver the

528
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: message to Dr Wendy and y'all to set on the couch.

529
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: Wendy had was fed up to here y'all look on

530
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: the couch and said, girl, I don't really give a ship.

531
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: This was a great scene. I'm going to sip on

532
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: my bottle water with the straw and Robin said, I'm

533
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: going to literally finger myself as you talk about that.

534
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: I was like, they are good, paired and last or

535
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: not least last, but not least. When Ashley and Candice

536
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: had that altercation in candice home and Ashley gave the

537
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: read of girl, you mean your mama hig official mama table,

538
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: which I think is everything and canvas stupid knife. That

539
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: was all orchestrated because Robin said, I'm just gonna say it, Uh,

540
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: your husband act like you set a flat out, and

541
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: then Gazelle said, you leave it. I'll come back in

542
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: the house because when you think I'm gonna work to

543
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: do because the crew is here for another two hours.

544
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: So that's what I mean when I say, you guys

545
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: are the executive and the co EP. Okay, now now

546
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: that you didn't broke that all the way down, we

547
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: must agree and all right, so switch your gears a

548
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: little bit. Switching gears a little bit because I know

549
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: that um not not I know, but I've heard that

550
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: you and Andy Cohen. Do you all have a relationship,

551
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: because it seems like right now the trajectory of your career,

552
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: Carlos is similar to Andy. Right, Um, do you feel

553
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: like he's a mentor to you? Do you feel like, um,

554
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, do you'all talk y'all go to parties? Do

555
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: you Are you invited to the Hamptons like I'm not.

556
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: I am not invited to the Hamptons. No I'm not.

557
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: But no, So here's somebody obviously I have the pleasure

558
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: of work with for all the years I did Atlanta

559
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: and New Jersey. And when it was announced that I

560
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: had a podcast, he sent me a d M and

561
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: he said, dude, you're killing get congratulations And I of

562
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: course said thank you, and I said, look, I'm no idiot,

563
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: like you paved the way for someone like me to

564
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: have a career um in front of the camera because

565
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: you shown that it can be done. And at the

566
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: end of the day, what I will say on record

567
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: is the fact that he is somebody that definitely paved

568
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: the way. And I will always give the man his flowers. Yes, yes,

569
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: So are you gonna have a surrogate and name the child?

570
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: I mean, what's what, what's what's going to be for you? Well?

571
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: You know, look, I want to be able to be

572
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: the phase of black unscripted television. So I have a

573
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: I have years before that can happen. Okay, when you

574
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: turn fifty, right, okay, very good? Like I got got.

575
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: I got a lot of years before I turned fifty.

576
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: So look in your experience producing great reality television, how

577
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: many times have you gotten cursed out by? Remember? Yes?

578
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: Is it arranged from like? Um? And who has cursed

579
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: you out the moment? Who's the best curse your best?

580
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna get So I've been cussed out by Nini Charai, Candy,

581
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Faedra Porscha, Marlowe, Kim I'm sorry, Kim Costume, Kim Zosiac yes, Um,

582
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: Kim Fields. Okay, she didn't know what hit her at me?

583
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, honey, you better read me, honey. But no,

584
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: the only person who has never yelled at me is

585
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore. Kenym Moore has never yelled at me when

586
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: k so, let's talk about this. You know how, sometimes

587
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: a producer can say, like, you know what, I think

588
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: we should talk about this. We'll talk about that. And

589
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: sometimes you're like, all right, final, I'll mark it up.

590
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: And sometimes you're like, no, I'm not doing it right.

591
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: So Kenya, Ken, you will give me this look and

592
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: I know she's mad, she'll do this and I'm like,

593
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, ken is mad, but she she she

594
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: has never raised her voice. So the person who has

595
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: cut me out the best is and you're gonna gag

596
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: Cynthia Bailey. You know what's funny that I mean that?

597
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: So I have cursed out producers too. No no, no no,

598
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: no, no no, let me help you, Carlos, let me help you,

599
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: Let me help you. This is t so the first

600
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: cursing out that Eric Fuller got. Yes, we're gonna mention

601
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: his name, Robin. Yes. So you so it's funny you

602
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: say Cynthia. And you know a lot of people kind

603
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: of compared me to cynthio On on Potomac or whatever.

604
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: So I'm like, it's funny you say that because it's like, yeah,

605
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: we might be quiet, we might be the nice, the

606
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: laid back one, the easy one, but we have it

607
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: in us like kiss us off, you piss us off.

608
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: But I need to know why you custom ouse. I'm

609
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you why. So, um,

610
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: it was season one and it was in the beginning

611
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: of the season and me, Robin, and Katie were going

612
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: to Charie's house. Okay, So Katie and I were in

613
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: the bushes for some reason. That's the that's I think

614
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: that was part of the scene. So we that, I mean,

615
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: if we were in the car, we were in we

616
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: went the car, but they didn't show that because we

617
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: were in the car before we got started, and there

618
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: was some information that Katie was told to talk about

619
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: and she didn't know not to tell us. She told

620
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: us before we started filming, okay, which was which is like,

621
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: because you know, Katie wasn't Katie was just we were

622
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 1: we were new okay. So so they were talking about

623
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: wanting a scene. So, so, okay, season one, I'm gonna

624
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: be honest, I didn't know what the hell I signed

625
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: up for. All she knew, I didn't know what I

626
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: signed up for. Okay. So so season one, before we

627
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: started filming, just I'm probably revealing too much at this point.

628
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: So before production started, they asked me, is there anything

629
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: that's off limits in your story? Right? You know that's

630
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: a setup, you know, how y'all do that's a set up.

631
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, they asked me that, yes, and I said, well,

632
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: you know, Wane wand doesn't really want to talk about

633
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: his financial issues. Okay. So we pull up to a scene,

634
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: we're in a car. We're like, they're holding us, right,

635
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: and Katie is like, yeah, um, I was with Ashley

636
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: today and actually was talking about you know, one had

637
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: y'all had twenty five and one y'all file for bankruptcy

638
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: and all this, and I right, I mean, in hindsight,

639
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: Katie should have saved all of that for the scene.

640
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, because that would have been and yeah,

641
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: iconic scenes you talk about, that would have been amazing.

642
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: So then Eric comes to the car to be like okay, guys, okay, guys,

643
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: it's time for you guys to go into Teresus and

644
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: Robin was like, hew fucking gets out to car, curse

645
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: Eric out to smithereens. Okay, I was clutching my pearls.

646
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I said, we God damn so um Robin left. She

647
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: left the scene the scene she said, don't call me

648
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: no more. I quit. This was this was two weeks

649
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: in the season one. Robin quit. I told you, I

650
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: don't know what I signed up for y'all reason about

651
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: shady exclusive it is it is I quit, I don't

652
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: and and so for me to still be here seven

653
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: years later, like I guess I got over really quickly.

654
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, and so now my what I

655
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: say to people when they get all mad, it's what

656
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: you signed up for. Yes, it is. It definitely is.

657
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: Do you believe that this is facts? Because this is

658
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Robin and I always say we always say that if

659
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: you get through a season as a People on Our

660
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: sidecast and as if at some point in the season

661
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: you didn't want to run away cry because everybody out,

662
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: leave your family and just go hide it under a rock,

663
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: then you're not doing your job. Like every season you

664
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta throw it all on the table. Yeah, no,

665
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: I can't hardly believe that. Listen. I will always defend

666
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: my reality cast, not people I just work with. I'm

667
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: talking about the industry as a whole. It takes a

668
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: lot of courage to get in front of a camera

669
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: and tell your business and and and to to to

670
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: talk about things that you don't want to talk about.

671
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: That takes a lot of courage. So if you aren't

672
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: having anxiety or feeling like I want to quit or

673
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: feeling like, damn, this is gonna be bad, then you

674
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: were being honest because one thing I will say, everybody

675
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: in their lives have something going on that they would

676
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: prefer to keep under the rug. We all I have

677
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: that there's ship that goes on with me. I'm like

678
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: the Lord Jesus. But if I signed on to be

679
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: a reality star, I want to be the best, and

680
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: I have the personality of if you don't want to

681
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: be great, then why I sign up to do it? Right? Right?

682
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: We we we totally agree. Well, see my perspective different

683
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: because I signed up, Like I said, I didn't know

684
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: what I signed up for, and when the opportunity presented itself,

685
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: I was just kind of like, oh, you only live once, Okay,

686
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll try it for me. I wasn't

687
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, Oh I want to be you know, a

688
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: superstar And and to be honest, does that will tell you?

689
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Like to this day, I still don't think I'm like famous,

690
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: Like I'm still it's still weird to me that I'm

691
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: on reality TV. That's just my personality. I'm I'm laid back.

692
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: I don't think coming if I'm wrong. I don't think

693
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: you or Ashley care about that in my opinion. Yeah,

694
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: and Nashley too. Yeah, we're we're pretty much. I will

695
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: probably say like I'm the same person today that I

696
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: was seven years ago or eight years ago before the show.

697
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: You know, like it hasn't it doesn't consume my life. Um,

698
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: and you know, I want to go back to the

699
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: conversation about you know, people you know watching the shows

700
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: and and and thinking they have to act a certain way.

701
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: It's hard because it's like on Reality's like Okay, you

702
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: want to watch because you want to know, like you

703
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: wanna know what happens, right as a as a cast member,

704
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: I want to say, Okay, what's happening on these other shows?

705
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: But then a part of me doesn't want to watch

706
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: because I don't want to think that I have to

707
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: act like Teresa or Dorenda or Ramona or whoever Erica. Like,

708
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to think, let me watch these shows

709
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: and act like them and say what they say and

710
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: do what they do. So you know, for me, I've

711
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: always just been like you know what, I'm gonna be myself.

712
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm not really into it, like you know, trying to

713
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: pretend to be someone I'm not. I know what they

714
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: say about me. I don't care. That's why you're great

715
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: at what you do. Yeah, you don't have to be

716
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: the loudest in the room to have a moment. And

717
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 1: to your point, Robin, let's talk about the real housewives

718
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: of Dubaye, right, which I like to say the real

719
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: housewives of Bye Bye. For me, those women studied every

720
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: single housewife and it's hard for me to get into

721
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: them because I don't think they're being themselves. What do

722
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: y'all think? Okay, I've only seen one, maybe one and

723
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: a half episodes. The only thing that stands out to

724
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: me is the is the model girl? Right, But I

725
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: think he's talking about her. I feel like, but I

726
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, yes, she's at least entertaining to watch

727
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: the others is like paint drying, right, So she keeps me,

728
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking for her for the next scene, so I

729
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: will give her that. Yeah, are were about to be clips?

730
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: They're gonna clip this up? Jeez? No, But I agree.

731
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: The thing is this. The thing is this When you

732
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: look at someone like Chanelle on Dubai, you're already interesting,

733
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: You're you're you're gorgeous, you have this interesting look. Everything

734
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: about your life to me is interesting. You don't have

735
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: to try hard to be the moment, just be you

736
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: because you already have it. Aesthetically, some miss think go

737
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: into the scene and make magic happen. And that's the

738
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: reason why in my opinion, and this is no shade,

739
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. That's why Potomac Yes became great

740
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 1: half this season two babies not after season two. What

741
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: happened to season one? See season one was not good.

742
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: People need to figure out where who who we are

743
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: and you know, let's let's let's keep it all the

744
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: way real. Carlos TV had not seen people like us,

745
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: had not seen light skinned, green eye bandits, had didn't

746
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: understand okay, they educated their black women, they went to

747
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: college like you know, that was so foreign back then,

748
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: and so I felt I felt like people just needed

749
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: to especially our culture, needed to understand. Yeah, we with y'all,

750
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: like we we down, We're bout about it now. I

751
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: think Bravo wanted to establish us as they didn't even

752
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: confused as to what we were gonna be. So it

753
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: was like this big whole etiquette thing, right remember that. Unfortunately, Yes,

754
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: we didn't get it either. But I don't know what

755
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: season two, what happened? We just got ratchet? What do

756
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: we do? I mean, he's I don't know. I guess

757
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: he's talking about the addition of some people that he

758
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: works closely with. That's what I'm gonna assume. Is that

759
00:45:55,680 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, Carlos? Oh it know what you're

760
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: talking about? No, don't do it. I love it all right.

761
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: So this is a portion of the episode of the show, Carlos,

762
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: and which you can ask us anything, say whatever you

763
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: gotta says anything, tell us anything, you know what you

764
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: gotta say? What? Oh, and tell us what would you

765
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: do differently in Potomac or if you were a producer

766
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: in Potomac, what do you see? Like, Oh, you know,

767
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: are there things that you would have tried to produce

768
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: differently or or you know, I don't know. That's a

769
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: very good question. Okay, So I'm happy to report that

770
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: after season one where season one half potential, but like

771
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: Gazelle admitted, it was all about etiquette, and no one

772
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: gives a shit about that, right, I am going to

773
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: say this, and I'm gonna be very real. Starting from

774
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: season two, you you guys have excelled tremendously, to the

775
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: point of I wouldn't have done anything differently. I think

776
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: you guys haven't going on thank you, go on thank

777
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: you and I and I've said, I've said that the

778
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: secret Sauce and the beauty of Potomac is that you know,

779
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: because we were the last standing o G. So like me,

780
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: Rob and Ashley Karen have a chemistry about us that, um,

781
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: people want to see season after season, right. I mean, yes,

782
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: we've gotten some people that have come and go along

783
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: the way, But but to keep the originals together for

784
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: this long I think has been very productive for the show.

785
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. If it ain't, don't fix it.

786
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: And your franchise does a marvelous job at casting. Y'all

787
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: cast some good people to be on the show. It's

788
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: actually really hard to cast our show though, you know that, right. No,

789
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: it's funny. I know the casting and he used to

790
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: do it for years and he said the same thing.

791
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: But you guys find great people in the midst of

792
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: the struggle, like Monique and Wendy and Candice and Mia.

793
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I scala no, no, ma'am.

794
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: Scalar no, ma'am. No, mam, but I want to say

795
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: I think Mia was a great addition. I think that

796
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: she brings you know, I always like something different, you know,

797
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: Mia brings something different and and she and she owns

798
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: her ship. She she stands on who and what she is.

799
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: I love that. No, I mean, but I agree with

800
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: everything he said. I think everyone has been Yeah, I

801
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: think everyone's been a great addition. And yes, it's really

802
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: hard to cast this show. But but you're right, it's

803
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: like finding diamonds in the rough, you know, and and

804
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: it's and maybe that's why you know I'm still here.

805
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm the boring one, and I'm still here because you

806
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: can't find that many people to replace me. So you know,

807
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, And let me. I'm

808
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: a comment on that, and then I'm gonna ask all

809
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: the questions. I don't think you're boring at all. Not

810
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: everybody on Housewide needs to be this big, boisterous personality.

811
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: And I need somebody who's level headed. You need somebody

812
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: who's the peacemaker, and you need somebody who's there and

813
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: and not you know this this this this sort of

814
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: like big, like I said, personality, And I think you

815
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 1: offer that to the show. So I don't think you're boring.

816
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: Cynthia was not boring at all. Um, So it does

817
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: bother me when people say that. Yeah, Like, I mean,

818
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: I think on any show you need balance. Like, if

819
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: you had six knees on the show, it would be chaos.

820
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: You know, if you have sixs on the show, it

821
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: would be chaos. You know, So you definitely need balance.

822
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: And and then you know, and then the other thing

823
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: is like, you know, not everyone is everyone's cup of tea.

824
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: That's fine. That's why there's six, seven, eight housewives on

825
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: the show, because you're not going to like every single one.

826
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: So and some people like the you know, aspirational part

827
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: of housewives, but other people like the relatable part of housewives.

828
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: So I just I mean, I don't know. I think

829
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: it's good to show both, but I do, you know,

830
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I laugh at it. I'm like, you know,

831
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still here. If I'm so boring, I'm still here.

832
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm obviously doing something right. All right, we

833
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: got time for one question. You have one question, Oh

834
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: my god, just one a you can have to, you

835
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: can have to, Okay, I gotta make a good okay,

836
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: And y'all better be honest. Would y'all say Monique Samuel's

837
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: was good for the show, really that's your question. Oh God, listen,

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Speaker 1: he's been dying to say her name. He's been dying

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Speaker 1: so so so this is this is probably gonna, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, upset some people, maybe because people are very sensitive.

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Speaker 1: So when season one, when we filmed the show and

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Speaker 1: season one was about to premiere, I said, we don't

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Speaker 1: have any color on this show. I said, we're to

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Speaker 1: light skin. We need some brown skinned people on the show.

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Speaker 1: And I said, people aren't going to connect with us,

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Speaker 1: you know, people who are you know, used to watching Atlanta,

847
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Speaker 1: So they're not going to connect with us because they're

848
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Speaker 1: going to just see a cast full of light skinned people.

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Speaker 1: So when Monique was cast it, I was so happy.

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Speaker 1: I was so happy to see a beautiful, brown skinned

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Speaker 1: woman cast on our show who's living the Potomac life

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Speaker 1: that they wanted to see. I thought she was a

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Speaker 1: fabulous addition to our show. You know, not just for

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Speaker 1: that reason alone, but I thought that was so important

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Speaker 1: for people to see that um and for for them

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Speaker 1: to be able to connect to us. And I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do. I think she was a good addition to

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Speaker 1: the show. Of course, we we had success, so you know,

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Speaker 1: and I think you know, a lot of it is

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Speaker 1: that people tuned in, they saw all Monique, they said,

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Speaker 1: oh well, let me watch this show and see what

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Speaker 1: it's about. And then people were able to appreciate the

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Speaker 1: show for what it was and not look at the

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Speaker 1: show and say I can't relate to anyone. So just

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Speaker 1: for that reason alone, I think she was a great addition.

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Speaker 1: And so I agree with everything that Robin said. But

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Speaker 1: currently she's exactly where she should be, which is with

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Speaker 1: you on another network. No, and I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. Okay, so my next question, it'll

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Speaker 1: be quick, is two and one. But it's easy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you ready, out of the current Real Housewives of Potomac cast,

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Speaker 1: besides just Zelling Robin, who is the top housewife that

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Speaker 1: you think brings it and who is the least interesting

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00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: housewife that brings it? I can answer this because it's

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00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: because I think it changes here. It does change, it

876
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: changes year after year. But I can say, and this

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00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a spoiler alert for season seven,

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00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 1: I hope Andy don't fire me. Karen come brings it.

879
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: This season. Yes she does, and it wait wait, meaning

880
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: Karen is Karen is wanted to straddle the fence, not

881
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: give her opinion, you know, kind of play it safe.

882
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: The Grand Dame does not do that, okay. And the

883
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: least she doesn't know she she she's spilling tea like

884
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: Karen was spilling tea this season. When does she ever

885
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: spill tea? She has a spilled tea in seven seasons. Listen,

886
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I think it's a different side to her.

887
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: I know why Ram is not agreeing with me right now.

888
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: And the least, who would you say, is the least

889
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: what was the question? Was the least at least interesting,

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00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: least important, or at least all of the above? Says Look,

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00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm let you answer that. Can wait wait, let me

892
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: answer the first part. I don't agree with um, Karen.

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00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to say. Ashley, Oh yeah, well, I mean

894
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: but but I think Ashley is not a surprise considering

895
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah. I think I feel like Ashley saw

896
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: last year and was like, oh, it's time to play,

897
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see a very different a very You're

898
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: gonna see a different Ashley. You're gonna see the old

899
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: Ashley but you're gonna see a very different Ashley. Yeah. Okay, true, true, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Karen and Ashley, we'll give it to them. Okay, yeah,

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00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: Lord the least, and she's not gonna answer that. We're

902
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: not gonna answer that in that second call. You can

903
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: answer just like process of elimination. I mean, I mean,

904
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, okay, I'm not answered. Listen, Carlos,

905
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer that. Okay, this is what we're gonna do.

906
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: The season is going to premiere. We're gonna talk to

907
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: you again on your podcast, and I will answer that

908
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: question for you, Okay, and I will give reasons why. Okay,

909
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: fair enough. I mean we know because the thing about

910
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: is this, Okay, I I think I may know who

911
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: the answer is, but I don't want to speculate, so

912
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: we will wait and you'll announce it on Reality of

913
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: the King pot Yes, okay, perfect, Okay, yes, yes, so

914
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: tell us. I'm not spl it and I'm not gonna

915
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: spoil it, but I'll say this much. I am hearing

916
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: this upcoming season, Darling's explosive and fantastic da I heard

917
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: the same thing you guys are coming for the Crown

918
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: of Belly Hills. Oh listen, Carlos, um I concur listen.

919
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: I heard the same thing, and you know, I hope

920
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: the ratings reflect that. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I gotta say,

921
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: carl before we leave, let's let Carlos talk about Okay,

922
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: your podcast, your show and stuck all your time they

923
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: come on, Not that he hasn't already done that in

924
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: the whole podcast. Yes, where we can. Okay, by the way,

925
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: By the way, this was like the best key key

926
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Speaker 1: we've had on reasonably Shady in a very long time. Like, Carlos,

927
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: you are a good key key. I feel like we

928
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: should we should make this a regular thing. No, we're

929
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna we'll have him back. Okay after we're like midway

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00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: through season seven, after that starts airing, We're gonna have

931
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: you come back so you can give us your critiques

932
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: all season seven. Yes, that's good. I would love it.

933
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: But no, no, I'm just gonna say that what the

934
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: listeners just heard is exactly what happened when we all

935
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: met for the first time. It was it was a

936
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: key key it was fun. So I'm glad that you

937
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: guys thought that chemistry. I just want to let the

938
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: listeners know Carlos is very tight. Yeah, because I remember

939
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: when when we saw you, I was like feeling on

940
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: your on your box, like, oh works, don't are done, honey.

941
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: Just want to let y'all know, Carlos King is a

942
00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: snack Okay, be clear, total clear. That thing is snack up. Okay.

943
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: He does not play on your side of the street,

944
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: and that is totally fine. But for the other side

945
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: of the street, he is quite snack a ball. Okay.

946
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: So boys, your heart out, come for the King, and

947
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: in a different kind of way, come for the kid.

948
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: You know, you know what, Lord, But you know, I

949
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: remember he smelled good. Yeah, and he was nice and tight. Yes,

950
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: that thing okay, car And I'm not mad. I'm not mad. No,

951
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: he's no, he's not rich. He rich Ritchen, He's a

952
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: double rich as well. Okay, all right, we have to go, Carlos.

953
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: You's got no more time, all right, y'all listen to

954
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: it for Carlos. Follow me on at Carlos King Underscored

955
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: to find out what I'm doing. That's all right, thank you,

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00:57:49,400 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: thank you, ladies, good bye ya. Reasonably Shady is a

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00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: production of the Black Affect podcast Network. For more podcasts

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Speaker 1: from I Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows,

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Speaker 1: and you can connect with us on social media at

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