1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: First Date follow up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: Noah is on the phone today for a first day 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Brooks. 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: So in a few minutes. 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: We'll call her and see if we can figure out 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: why he's getting ghosted and maybe get him a second date. 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: But first, Noah, how long has it been since you 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: talked to. 10 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 4: Brook I technically texted her yesterday, one of those no pressure, 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 4: just checking in type of text, which I guess is 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 4: still pressure. But I haven't really talked to her more 13 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 4: or less since the date. 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: And when was that? 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 4: Uh, it was like a week ago. We met for 16 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 4: coffee and it turned into one of those kind of 17 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 4: accidental three hour dates. You know. 18 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: That's nice. 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we did coffee and then we walked through 20 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: a park and decided to grab dinner, and then we 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 4: just kind of didn't want to leave the restaurant, like 22 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: the conversation just kept flowing, no awkward silence, is there anything? 23 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 4: It felt good. It felt you know, mature and adults, so. 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: Mature that somebody's getting ghosted. Maybe sorry, I mean it 25 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: sounds like a good date. 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: If you're trying to get together for coffee and then 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: you're together basically all day. 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she kept saying how refreshing it was 29 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 4: to have a guy actually listen, and like she opened 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 4: up to me, like really opened up. I don't know. 31 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 4: I felt trusted and that doesn't happen a lot, and 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 4: it felt like there wasn't any like absurd small talk, 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: like just went straight to real conversation, which was nice. 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 3: What did did you guys do after dinner? Did was 35 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: that the it? 36 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: Like? 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: How did you end it dinner? 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 4: Was it? We were there when they were still stacking 39 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: up chairs at the end of the restaurant, so we 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: pretty much closed down the restaurant. So that was pretty 41 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: much the rest of the date. But yeah, I don't know, 42 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: it was I thought it was great. 43 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: Was there like a kiss? 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: Huh? 45 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: A nice hug, you know, intimate hug? 46 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: Is there anything that you can think of that would 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: be a reason that she'd ghost you? 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 4: I've been over this in my head. The only thing 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: I can think I was a little late, not insanely late, 50 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 4: like ten minutes late, because the traffic was brutal, and 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: so I apologize by the way she was totally fine. 52 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: She even joked about it a little bit, said something 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 4: about she was on vacation and saw slots that moved faster. 54 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: I don't know, but maybe it wasn't actually fine. But 55 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: she also mentioned she hadn't been in a serious relationship 56 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: for a while, so I don't know. I don't know 57 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: if she's just having second thoughts her. But it was 58 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: like a great date, laughing dessert, like all of it 59 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: was great. And so I don't know if I'd messed up, 60 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 4: or she just decided dating wasn't right for her right 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: now or what. I'm just totally at a loss. 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: Did you text her that you going to be ten 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: minutes later? Did you show up ten minutes late and 64 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: then say sorry. 65 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: Nah, I just showed up ten minutes late. I should 66 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: have probably texted, but again, ten minutes you know, everybody 67 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 4: deals with the traffic, so I didn't think it was 68 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: going to be And like I said, she was kind 69 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: of joking about it, so it didn't feel like a 70 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: deal breaker or anything. I don't know. 71 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: Noah is on the phone. 72 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: He's getting ghosted by Brooks, So we're about to call 73 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting 74 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: him and maybe get him a second date. But before 75 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 2: we do that, and no, on, why don't you break 76 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: down your date again for us real quick? 77 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's for coffee. And the conversation was 78 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: really great and everything was, you know, very comfortable, and 79 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 4: we talked about some kind of big, bigger stuff, not 80 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: just small talk nonsense. And we walked to the park 81 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: and then basically closed down a restaurant because the conversation 82 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: was so good. And yeah, just have not heard back 83 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: from her. It's been about a little over a week. 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: All right, Well, are you ready for us to call her? 85 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna loss so please okay, that would 86 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: be great. 87 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: Here we go. Well, hi, may I speak to Brook? Please? 88 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: Hey Brooke? How are you? This is a radio show. 89 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: It's called the Jebil Show. Hi Brooke, I'm Nina. Hi, 90 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 3: I'm Victoria and my name is Jeble. What's up? 91 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: Wait? 92 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: This is a real radio show. 93 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, girl, you ever listened to the show before? 94 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: I have? Yes? Okay, I know exactly, Yeah, I know 95 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: I know you guys? Hi? 96 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: Oh sweet? Okay, cool, well you've probably heard a first 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: date follow up then? 98 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: Yes? 99 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 3: Okay? 100 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: Cool? 101 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: Well guess what Brooke, we're calling you today because you 102 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: know the first day fall Up, that's the segment where 103 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: if you go on a date and ghost somebody, they 104 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: can email us to call that person and find out why. 105 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: And that's why we're on the phone with you. You're 106 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: ghosting somebody and they want to know what they did wrong. 107 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: Noah, I mean it's Noah. 108 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so you already know, yes, it's Noah. 109 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 110 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 111 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: Well why are you ghosting him? Uh? 112 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: Well, he he acted like my therapist. 113 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: Hmmmm, he acted like your therapist. 114 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Every time I said something, he had another question, 115 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: or he was giving me advice, or he's like reframing 116 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: what I said. 117 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: You know, so he was reframing what he said. How 118 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: did that make you feel like? 119 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: It made me feel like I needed to give a 120 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: kopey to be honest. 121 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 3: Oh no, So it wasn't like he was actually listening, 122 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: you know. 123 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: He was listening. I just felt like it was clinical, 124 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, it was just there was no romance. It 125 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: was very he was digging so deep and just terrafizing me. 126 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: It felt like, okay, so like you'd be in the 127 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: middle of a conversation that was cool, and then he 128 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 3: would just find a reason why that was your dad's 129 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: fault or something. 130 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he would ask me a question, I would 131 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: share something about myself and then he'd be like, oh, 132 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: this is another way to look at it, or you 133 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: could think about it like this, or how about if 134 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, And I really wasn't. I just wasn't looking 135 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: for that, you know, I didn't ask for it. 136 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: Did you mention that at all? Like did you try 137 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: to squash or redirect a conversation? Just that curates I. 138 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: Felt like I was trying to redirect, but he was 139 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: asking very probing questions, you know. So it was the 140 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: first date. I didn't know why we were so deep. 141 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so it got too deep for you and he 142 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: was more asking questions like he was a therapist. 143 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know if he asked me if I'd ever 144 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: been to camp, and I had, like back in middle school, 145 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: and I just explained how it was like really rough 146 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: because the girls I was friends with at that time 147 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: like all kind of turned on me. But I was 148 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: just like it was there were some funny stories in there. 149 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: And he was like, have you considered, you know, reaching 150 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: out to them on Facebook and clearing a path so 151 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: that there's no negative or I'm like. 152 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: Whoa, Okay, all right, well thank you for telling us. 153 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you forgot or not, but 154 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: Noah is actually on the phone listening and wants to 155 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: talk to you. 156 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 157 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: Yes, wow, Uh, totally unfair. 158 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: You asked me more questions than my actual therapist. 159 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: All right, yeah, I'm sorry. I actually like to get 160 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 4: to know people on a first date. That's definitely on me. 161 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting to know someone and then there's a 162 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: clinical intake form to be honest. 163 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: What's wrong with asking questions? 164 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm nothing if I booked a session. 165 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: Honest, honestly from from when I heard, you obviously need 166 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: need advice like you, you really should probably consider therapy. 167 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm in it. Thank you. 168 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: Well, maybe get a new one because the issues are deep. 169 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 4: I mean you you brought up your parents, your ex, 170 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: your attachment issues. What was I supposed to do? Just 171 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: nod silently? 172 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: Yes? How about flirting? Maybe eat tacos like on a 173 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: normal date, levity fun laugh. 174 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: I didn't know there was a limit on emotional honesty. 175 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: That's that You're right, that's on me. 176 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was date one. 177 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: Maybe don't trauma dump on somebody. You just met. 178 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Well, you called me to find out why I does 179 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: to do. That's it right there, And yeah, I mean 180 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: is this to see me again? Because that's not the 181 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: vibe I'm getting. 182 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: I mean I didn't want to see you again. But 183 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: apparently my advice went right out the door because your 184 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: issues are front and center. 185 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: Wow, maybe you don't go fix someone. Okay, cool, I'll 186 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: give I'll give your data call. 187 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: Okay, that's healthy. 188 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, at least maybe he's some fun. Maybe he's got 189 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: some fun in his back pocket. 190 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's daddy issues one on one. That's what that is. 191 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 4: That's uh, that's textbook, as they say. 192 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: But you know what's really cool, Like you're the type 193 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: of person where you do share something and then you 194 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: weaponize it as time goes on and not super clear. 195 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 4: So is a term you read on BuzzFeed or was 196 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 4: that just something. 197 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: That came up I opened books. I'm in therapy. I'm 198 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: a person of the world. Yeah, okay, well you should 199 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: be in therapy, by the way, like mister therapist, you 200 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: should be in it, are you? 201 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: Some people don't need it. Hey, people have awareness and 202 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: don't need the crouch of it. 203 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: Brooke, would you like to go on another date with it. 204 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm real good. 205 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: No, you're actually not good. You have a lot of 206 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 4: work to do. I think is the term wow, But 207 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: I hope you figured out. 208 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: Hey, good luck with your future patience buddy. 209 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 4: Good luck on avoiding real conversation. 210 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: Jubile's first date fall