1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: So thirty five states relaxing restrictions, although that varies a 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: lot from state to state. And the problem I have 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: so many of these states, well they're all they all 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: vary a lot. You have urban areas and rural areas, 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: and then some states are so diverse, like you You're 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: you're really large states. To that to have a state 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: order just seems crazy. I mean, it makes no sense whatsoever. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: So some of the hot spots in the country, Michigan, 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: hundreds of protesters descended on Michigan's state capital yesterday, and 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: the Republican controlled legislature ramped up its efforts to bring 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: the Democratic Governor Whittmer's emergency powers to an end. And 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: they're talking about suing Governor Whittmer because they believe she's 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: acting outside of constitutional rights there in Michigan. And our 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: gripe has been and continues to be that this is 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: a serious suspension of constitutional rights that was based on 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: the need to flatten the curve. Well, the curve is 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: very very flat, and now the knee to suspend all 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: of our constitutional rights in our businesses and ability to 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: make a living seems to be just to prevent as 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: many cases as possible well, I think we're all in 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: favor of that, but should we be crushing the economy 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: and people's health not coincidentally on that basis. Another hot 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: spot is California, where there's a protest planned for today. 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: The group calling itself Reopen California and the lockdown. The 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: California Highway Patrol in California last week announced no more permits, 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: no more gathering, no more protests. Well, I don't know 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: if you're studied much about the First Amendment, but being 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: able to protest your government is one of the most 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: sacred rights we have in this country period. And uh, 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: and them saying you can't do that is crazy. While 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: there's a protest going on today and people are gonna, 32 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: I guess, drive around the capital, although some people are 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: planning to march, and they're gonna try to practice social 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: distancing and whatnot. We thought we'd talked to somebody who's 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: going to be involved in that. John Arabitt joins us. 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: He's a small business owner. Uh coincidentally a retired California 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: a Highway patrolman thirty years of the commander. So maybe 38 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: we'll ask him about that. John, Welcome to the Armstrong 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: and Getty Show. Hey, good morning guys, thanks for having 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: me on What what specifically, what message are you trying 41 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: to send by protesting today at the state Capitol. Well, 42 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, I found myself in a very interesting position. 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: After having served thirty years with the California Highway Patrol, 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm now a small business owner up here in Plaster 45 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: and Nevada Counties. Um and uh, I've been hit very 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: hard by our response to this pandemic along with our 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: twenty employees. Have you been closed down this whole time, 48 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: as in not getting any revenue? We have been closed 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: down since March twenty and have cut off all account 50 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: billion and revenue sources. So yes, So what's your message 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: to the governor or accounty officials or whomever? I mean, 52 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: if you were to put it succinctly, what's what is it? Well? Well, 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: my first message is um. First of all, you know, 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: if we believe that coronavirus is a real thing, and 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: our hearts go out to you know, the families who 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: have lost loved ones in the wake of this pandemic. 57 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, And I also you know, after having served 58 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: in government and been in these circles for many years, 59 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: I also think the government and his team are doing 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: what they believe to be in the best interests of Californians. 61 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: But I emphasized the word believed, because believing you're doing 62 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: the right thing doesn't always mean you are. Uh. There 63 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: are three important points that are driving my decision to 64 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: protest today. First of all, although well intended, I believe 65 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: the governor is missing the big picture. You know, and 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: it's been said before. You know, the means cannot be 67 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: worse than the ends, or in medical terms, the cure 68 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: cannot be worse than the disease. Um. The threat of 69 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: this virus is going to pass very soon, you know, 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: especially with the warmer weather here, and may have already 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:01,279 Speaker 1: been substantially diminished um, but the impact of our continued 72 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: lockdown will last for generations. Number two, I'm gonna be 73 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: out there calling Governor Knewsom out for his hypocrisy. You know, 74 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: he said it himself, one size does not fit all, 75 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, he nor do I want President Trump dictating 76 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: from Washington, d C. How California should handle our response 77 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: to this pandemic. You know, it's a big country, and 78 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: that authority rightfully lies with our governor, you know, to 79 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: deal with our specific and unique situation. But but you know, 80 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: but California is also a big state, you know, the 81 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: third largest in the nation. You know, I believe counties 82 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: and municipalities should be given uh strongly suggested guidelines, but 83 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: allowed to loosen or tighten those recommendations based on their 84 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: actual situation. We don't want to run out, We don't 85 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: want to run out of time before you get tell 86 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: your points and your third point is sure, um, the 87 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: third point is, Look, the main reason I'm gonna be 88 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: out there is I have the privilege of talking to 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: a Holocaust survivor many years ago, and I don't bring 90 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: this discussion up to to equate her situation with ours, 91 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: or even insinuate that our governor's response to this is 92 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: anything close to what happened in Germany at that point 93 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: in history. But nevertheless, I can't help but recall Ava's 94 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: words av Braun, after emotionally describing the atrocities that she 95 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: and her family suffered, she uh, you know, I asked her. 96 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: I said, what's the lesson that we should take from 97 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: your experience? And without missing a beat, she said, never 98 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: be complacent when government appears to be eroding your personal freedoms. 99 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: That's very good. Sidious. Yeah, it's a very assiduous process. 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: And if you're not careful, you know, you could lose 101 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: your freedom. So obsidious is the obsidious is the perfect 102 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: word for it, too. Yeah, And and it's an excellent 103 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: point because emergency powers is such an old story. Oh 104 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: my gosh, this is an emergency. We just need to 105 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: take these special powers briefly and temporarily. That's always the story. 106 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: And and listen to people who do that are good 107 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: at their jobs. They're good at convincing you it's an 108 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: emergency and you should be scared. And therefore we have 109 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: grasped these powers. And listen, maybe you think it's legit, 110 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: maybe you think, okay, go ahead and take those powers, 111 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: but you've got to dig in your heels hard and 112 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 1: not get dragged an inch further, and keep a firm 113 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: grip on your freedom, saying yank them right back the 114 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: second it's possible. And I think John, you join us 115 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: in saying that's what needs to be happening right now. 116 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, Hey, John Arabt, we thank you for 117 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: its diamond, and you're standing up for constitutional rights and 118 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: the rest of it. Go fight the good fight. Huh. 119 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: Thank you. He got it. He's more charitable than I 120 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: need to be about there. They're doing what they think 121 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: is the right thing. That's not necessarily true. Governor Whitburn 122 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Michigan or Governor Newsom California might be doing what they 123 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: think will make them more likely be a vice president 124 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: or presidential candidate someday. That might be driving their decision 125 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: more than any science whatsoever. Yeah, yeah, it's possible. I 126 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I feel little more charitable. I think they're just misguided. 127 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: I just think they're they're they're seduced by the power. 128 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: They've become fixated on preventing cases to the exclusion of 129 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: all other concerns, some of which are very important. I 130 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: will tell you this. The loose blanket Umbrella Organization, I 131 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: guess it is the term UH that's organizing a lot 132 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: of the stuff around the country. Is absolutely painstakingly saying 133 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: all people are required to maintain CDC guidelines for prevention, 134 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: follow best practices. We all know what those are. Masks 135 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: and staying apart if you're if you're sick or high risk, 136 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: please stay home. No violence of any sort, no confrontation. 137 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: Our message is simple, be ladies and gentlemen out there. 138 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: So it's good. It's good, solid stuff. The Michigan legislature 139 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: voted to give the House speaker there in Michigan the 140 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: authority to file a lawsuit against the governor. This is 141 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: some unprecedented territory that they're getting into there and be 142 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: interesting to see how this works out in the courts 143 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: or whatnot. But uh, yeah, not everybody agrees on what 144 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: the right thing to do is. I just yeah, misguided. 145 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: I how do you not how do you think about 146 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: these business owners and think, oh my god, we can 147 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: only make them stay shut if this is just the 148 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: absolute worst case scenario. We're not in the worst case 149 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: scenario anymore. We're clearly not right exactly. How has the 150 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: primary motivation for all this changed so completely? And nobody 151 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: has specifically addressed that as they continue to suspend sacred 152 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: rights And it's part of what he got to at 153 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: the end, which is watching, you know, things a road. 154 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: Little by little. The government shutting down your business went 155 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: from unthinkable to completely thinkable too. It's happening. And now 156 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: that it's happened, it's just in the or in the 157 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: realm of possibilities, right, Uh, it's the Overton window. It's 158 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: actually what actually happened to us. We can describe what 159 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: that is later if you want to. So we got 160 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: a lot of texts about a segment we did earlier 161 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: today for a couple of different reasons that will become evident. 162 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: One great point is made here. And then if you ever, 163 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: if you're of a certain bent, you'll you'll you'll recognize 164 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: quickly the other point of conversation. But do you have 165 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: a guy's name in front of I? I misplaced the Yeah, 166 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: John Umra a Abit that's right, former HP patrolman retired 167 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: now he's now a small business person. He was taking 168 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: part in the big protest at the state Capitol of 169 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: California Insecto, Sacramento. Yeah, and he was giving three reasons 170 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: that he wanted to get involved in. A couple of 171 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: the reasons were what you would expect, though well well 172 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: explained beautifully put yeah, absolutely, and then he got into 173 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: his third reason. I have the privilege of talking to 174 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: a Holocaust survivor many years ago. I can't help but 175 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: recall Ava's words, a le bron, never be complacent when 176 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: government appears to be eroding your personal freedoms. That's very good, 177 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: it's a very insidious process, and if you're not careful, 178 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, you could lose your freedom. Obsidious is the 179 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: perfect word for it too, So um yeah, just on 180 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: that part of it. I often think people are like 181 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of being practically crackpots, are a little low overreactive 182 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: about governments taken away your rights, blah blah blah. How 183 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: quickly can happen, But it is, It is absolutely true. 184 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: It happens little by little, and you think, well, it's 185 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a little bit. We're a country 186 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: where we got a strong democracy will be but the 187 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: government has shut down businesses and now it's threatening to 188 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: find people who arrest people who try to open them 189 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: back up. That is unheard of in my lifetime. And 190 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: now it's happening and a lot of people are accepting it, 191 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: and and it's insidious. Insidious is the perfect word for it. Now. 192 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: The problem that the reason we got so many texts 193 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: about that was and I'll bet you caught it well 194 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: if if you're a World War two history fan, the 195 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: fact that he had a Holocaust survivor friend with the 196 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: same name as Hitler's girlfriend soon to be wife, Eva Braun, 197 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: just just kind of caught the year and was a 198 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: bit of a distraction. Obviously, leave out the last name. 199 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Did she have a nickname? Did you call her by 200 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: a missy? If she happens to have the same name, 201 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: she's of the World War two generation, and she has 202 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: the same name as Hitler's wife. I mean, Eva Rava 203 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: is an incredibly common name in Germany, and brawn is 204 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: an incredibly common last would be like name being named 205 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: Amy Brown? Right? Absolutely? Um, Nonetheless, it was funny. Both 206 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Jack and I thought, wait a minute, this has been 207 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: a great interview. Love this guy. Is he about to 208 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: drop a Howard Stern's penis? Yeah, I thought, I thought, 209 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: he's he's he's he's waiting to see if we just 210 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 1: roll with it like a stupid Anderson Cooper or something 211 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: like that during an interview, And we got a whole 212 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: bunch of text and he just say Braun was his 213 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: neighbor a ninety three year old, so she's the right 214 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: age obviously if she's a Holocaust survivor. Right, And me 215 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: like if I said, yeah, I got this buddy. I 216 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: lift weights with this guy, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and he says 217 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: you should keep your feet at shoulder like the part 218 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: and Arnold says quite a second year a weightlifting friend 219 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: his named Arnold Schwartzenegger. Different guy though, yes, yeah, yeah, okay, 220 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: that was so people noticed that, did they? My guitar instructor, 221 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: um Eric Clapton. He shows me I'm talking and Eric Clapton. No, no, 222 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: he's like a twenty seven year old guy. Just but 223 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: you realize when you say Eric Clapton, he's your tard instructor, 224 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: people are gonna think, what do you mean, hold on 225 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: before you go on something up real quick. You can't 226 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: talk about Holocaust survivors, World War two era A V. Braun. 227 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: It's just yeah, well anyway, it's a wonderful story, though 228 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: powerful message which I listened to and paid attention to. Serious. 229 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: But I'll bet av Broun would say, do we have 230 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: to get married a bunker? Um? I bet? I bet 231 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: his friend av Braun would say, yeah. I didn't think 232 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: when they took a little bit of power, a little 233 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: bit more power, took away a few more rights. I 234 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: didn't think it would end up where it ended up either, 235 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: because if you know the history, the most interesting history 236 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: of Hitler and everything like that is what happens in 237 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: the early thirties when it was he won a bunch 238 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: of elections. He this stuff got voted in, right, And 239 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: and the one thing I would point out is a 240 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: guy who studied this sort of thing my entire life, 241 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: is that the rationale for taking emergency powers is always 242 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: brilliantly constructed. They don't say they don't wear, you know, 243 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: the the mask of of good governance, and you can 244 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: hear them chuckling evily behind the scenes. No, they construct 245 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: their arguments very very well, and sometimes they're sincere that, look, 246 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,119 Speaker 1: we just need to keep you safe. This is temporary, 247 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: this is very important. We're just trying to save lives here. 248 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: That's always the rationale.