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Speaker 1: Welcome into everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: All right, pow Fitzmorris, let's start with you here. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna start with I can't believe it. The packer guy

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Speaker 1: is starting with a Chicago Bear. But let's start with

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Speaker 1: a guy in that backfield that you think people should

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Speaker 2: To, Roshan Johnson.

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Speaker 3: And why, yes, Joe, I am interested in running back

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Speaker 3: who averaged two point seven yards per carry last season.

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Speaker 3: I'm giving a Rochean a mulligan. For twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: Chicago's offensive line was a mass, especially inside, which hurts

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Speaker 3: a running back like Rochan who conducts a lot of

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Speaker 3: his business between the tackles. The Bears ranked thirty first

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Speaker 3: in the run blocking metric adjusted lineyards only the Dolphins

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Speaker 3: were worse. Rochean averaged one point five yards before contact

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Speaker 3: per carry, which ranked outside the top one hundred among

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Speaker 3: running backs. But the Bears have pretty much fixed the

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Speaker 3: and Jonah Jackson. That's a pretty impressive overhaul. And what

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Speaker 3: really has me most interested in Rochan though, is the

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Speaker 3: possibility that he becomes the discount David Montgomery in Ben

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Speaker 3: Johnson's offense. Montgomery has twenty five rushing touchdowns in twenty

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Speaker 3: eight regular season games over the last two years. Rochean's

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Speaker 3: a big dude, two hundred and twenty five pounds. That's

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Speaker 3: twenty pounds heavier than DeAndre Swift. There's a good chance

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Speaker 3: Rochan is the Bears goal line back this year. And

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Speaker 3: Rochan isn't just a one trick ponies pretty good pass

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Speaker 3: catcher at thirty four catches as a rookie. He's a

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Speaker 3: good enough athlete that he made Bruce Feldman's twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: two Freaks list back when Rochan was playing behind Bijon

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Speaker 3: Christian Gonzalez on the list. So Rochan actually enrolled at

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Speaker 3: Texas as a dual threat quarterback. So, and let's look

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Speaker 3: at Chicago's other running backs. DeAndre Swift dead last in

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Speaker 3: Kamanan guy. I know you like him, Joe, I like

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Speaker 3: him too, but the profile prospect is a little sauce.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's an undersized running back who doesn't catch passes,

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Speaker 2: So Roshan is a pretty compelling deep sleep.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I like to pay attention when new

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Speaker 1: And Monan guy to me, it feels like it could

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Speaker 1: so I think there's room for Roshan and Menan guy,

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Speaker 1: on the plane with Terrell and talk about our next guy. Here.

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Speaker 1: It's a wide receiver on the Broncos that Derell thinks

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Speaker 4: What is the name to Oh, yeah, Marvin Mims Junior.

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a year because I

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Speaker 4: season and this didn't change, Joe. You thought that just

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Speaker 1: No, he is.

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Speaker 4: Coddling little old bow Dix like a baby and giving

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Speaker 4: the end of the last season was Marvin Mimmes Marvin

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Speaker 4: Mims Week eleven on wide receiver twenty three in fantasy,

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Speaker 4: and I think, yes, he had a lot of touchdowns

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Speaker 4: the target share. He saw target on thirty percent of

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Speaker 4: think it can only get better with another year in

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Speaker 4: All the Pats, they're getting on my nerves.

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Speaker 1: Now. I know that Pat Bryan is out there.

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Speaker 4: I know Pat Bryan's out there, but he's still gonna

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Speaker 4: be a first year wide receiver. And regardless, it takes

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Speaker 4: time to escalate. It takes time to get those guys

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Terrell still loves you. You're not a pat

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Speaker 1: that gets on anybody's nerves. By the way, Marvin Mimms

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Speaker 1: going around wide receiver fifty seven right now currently, that's

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Speaker 1: for a guy in that offense could take a real

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Speaker 1: step forward this season, that's for sure. All right, Pat,

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Speaker 1: back to you. Let's go with a running back now

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland that you think might have a bigger opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps this is based on some recent events, or maybe

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little of both factors show. I mean,

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Speaker 3: going into the NFL Draft this year, I had Dylan

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Speaker 3: Sampson ranked RB six among the running back prospects.

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Speaker 2: He was my favorite guy behind the.

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Speaker 3: Big five of Ashton Genty, Omarion Hampton, Trevion Henderson, quinch

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Speaker 3: he catches passes. The problem was that Sampson was a

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Speaker 3: facing some legal difficulties which might give Samson a little

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Speaker 3: that during their mini camp, Duce Staley, the Browns running

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Speaker 3: Samson's usage this year. I just know the Cleveland RBF

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to bet on Samson's talent and grab him

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Speaker 1: Pat just basically in the same round almost. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jerome Ford is at RB fifty six, Samson's at RB sixty.

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Speaker 1: Would you take Samson? This is the younger back here.

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Speaker 2: Like we've seen what Ford is. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: Ford is good enough to dispatch the young guys in

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Speaker 1: Fair enough. All right, back to you, Trell, and let's

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Speaker 1: start with another wide receiver on your list. Joshua Palmer

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Speaker 1: finds himself in a new spot. So why could this

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I mean it's kind of similar to the

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Speaker 4: Darnell Mooney call I had last year of a proven

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Speaker 4: Moving on to a good spot, for them and Joshua Palmer,

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Speaker 4: while his numbers really don't glare off the page for

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Speaker 4: you look at him, he gets separation. And that's the

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Speaker 4: thing that they need in Buffalo. They need wide receivers

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Speaker 4: think Palmer's gonna have a role. They didn't bring him

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Speaker 4: I can trust this guy. He can get open multiple times.

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Speaker 4: So Wide receiver sixty nine.

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Speaker 1: That's way too low.

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Speaker 4: That's way too low. He doesn't have to go out

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Speaker 4: Palmer is gonna have a great year.

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Speaker 1: Do you have to be a key on Coleman fader

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Speaker 1: to be interested in Josh Palmer? Yes, okay, because that

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Speaker 1: And I know some people still are not sold on

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Speaker 1: keyon Coleman. It's one of the big debates this offseason.

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Speaker 1: I know Terrell is not pat. I feel like you

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Speaker 1: are a key on combing I'm to do And I

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Speaker 1: think what was so interesting about it? He's heard an

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Speaker 1: did you do you know last this offseason when you

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Speaker 1: know you're watching tape. Then he said, I have to

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Speaker 1: was good enough, which is great that he kind of

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Speaker 1: or not he can improve on it, that's a different question.

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Speaker 1: As Terrell pointed out too, the ADP for Palmer is

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Speaker 1: basically free, So free is always a nice investment. All right,

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Speaker 1: we've got two more names here. We're gonna get to.

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Speaker 1: One is a wide receiver, going back to the Carolina

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Speaker 1: Panthers for this one. This kid had some moments last season. Pat,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Jalen Coker, because now all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden it is a very crowded room. Ted McMillan is there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there is target competition, Joe, but like

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Speaker 4: Have y'all played a grand theft auto and you had

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Speaker 4: That's what I feel with Hunter Henry every single time.

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Speaker 4: go get Hunter Henry because Hunter Henry is good every

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because, like Tyler Warren, great talent,

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Speaker 1: They're going, you know, not that far away from each other.

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