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Speaker 1: whoa baby, buckle up, It's gonna be fun. We got

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Speaker 1: a new quarterback in Indianapolis and Sam Ellinger. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: Titans first, though, that's the most important thing. Maytay wins

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Speaker 1: and losses. Now, this loss that happened by nine points

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Speaker 1: year guy, good leader Sam Ellinger. A lot going on,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be enough. I really don't feel it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's an NFL, it's gonna it's not gonna be enough.

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Speaker 1: This team, this franchise is looking at a wildcard spot

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Speaker 1: when it comes for their future and these playoffs that

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Speaker 1: So it's not hard to figure out why the Colts

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Speaker 1: came up short twice to Tennessee Jeffrey. The Colts outgained

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Speaker 1: Let's have a rapid fire discussion on this Ellinger taking over. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Bottom line is this football team has been down by

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks under Frank Reich since twenty eighteen seven, go ahead

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Speaker 1: you to utilize Jonathan Taylor or are you gonna force

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Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger into some situations where he has to roll

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Speaker 1: out and make plays with his feet. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: did impressive things in the preseason there is no doubt

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Speaker 1: there is a reason for intrigue with what you have

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Speaker 1: in sam Ellinger, albeit that that was again second and

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Speaker 1: third string defenses. Yes you aren't. You know, that's not

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Speaker 1: a situation where you're facing Jeffrey Simmons and Danko Ch

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Speaker 1: in those situations. However, it's enough to spark the curiosity

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Speaker 1: of what there is. What I think sam Ellinger gives

436
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Speaker 1: you is versatility, and that's something that you have not

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Speaker 1: really had in a while within this offense. It allows

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Speaker 1: you to be creative to utilize him in different ways,

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Speaker 1: to utilize other parts of this offense in different ways,

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Speaker 1: because you aren't locked into the ability to really only

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Speaker 1: run this offense one way. Yeah, and the other thing

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Speaker 1: I want to know is how defenses play sam Ellinger

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Speaker 1: because there's not that much tape on that either. You know,

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, defenses are playing vanilla. You're not going

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Speaker 1: to get these, you know, more exotic disguised coverages. You know,

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Speaker 1: it is good that he did play Tampa in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: where Tampa, I mean Todd Bowles, he just blitzes all

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Speaker 1: the time. So he faced a couple of blitzes in

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Speaker 1: that game, including on the forty five yard touchdown. He

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Speaker 1: had the touchdown run where they sent a five man

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Speaker 1: pressure and he just took off against a single high

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Speaker 1: cover one look and randon in for a touchdown. It

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Speaker 1: was a great play. But you know, how do defenses

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Speaker 1: do they disguise more cover two looks against him to

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Speaker 1: try to confuse him early on in his career? Do

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Speaker 1: they try to throw some simulated pressures at him? You

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Speaker 1: know where you got guys drop in from the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: How do defenses attack Ellinger? And then what's his response

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Speaker 1: to that? Because once he gets a couple of games

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Speaker 1: of film on tape, that's when defenses are going to

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Speaker 1: start to adjust. How does he adjust to their adjustment?

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Speaker 1: And here's what I learned from Frank yesterday when I

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Speaker 1: had him in studio and we had a conversation about

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Speaker 1: what he has seen from Sam on the practice field,

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Speaker 1: because he noted how impressive Sam has been and Sam,

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Speaker 1: it's it's also worth noting too, Sam has gotten work

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Speaker 1: with the ones since he was elevated to the number

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Speaker 1: two spot a few weeks ago. He has been consistently

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Speaker 1: running with the ones in practice because you thought there

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Speaker 1: might be in game situations short yardage situations that you

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Speaker 1: wanted to utilize him like the Colts did in twenty

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Speaker 1: when you had the combination of Philip Rivers and Jacoby Brissett. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so he's had time. What I asked Frank about was

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Speaker 1: the velocity and the throwing motion and the work that

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Speaker 1: he did with Tom House in the off season. Of course,

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Speaker 1: Tom sorts of you know, all of the quarterbacks well known,

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Speaker 1: well established, well respected here within the organization. And one

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Speaker 1: of the things that coach Miche told me is a

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Speaker 1: lot of times when you have guys who do that

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Speaker 1: type of work and they'll spend several weeks in the

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Speaker 1: off season, all they end up doing is reverting back

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Speaker 1: to their old habits. They're unable to sustain those changes

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Speaker 1: and those improvements that they make because you get away

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Speaker 1: from it and you're doing all of the other things.

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Speaker 1: He said, one of the things that's encouraging is Sam

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Speaker 1: never reverted back. He's continued to grow in terms of

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Speaker 1: what you've gotten from him in the passing game, and

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Speaker 1: that is what defenses won't be able to anticipate for

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Speaker 1: a while. But Sam, in the preseason, he did an

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Speaker 1: interview Jeffrey with you and Matt Taylor where he talked

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Speaker 1: about working on his biomechanical signature and these things where

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Speaker 1: it's not just all right, I'm getting my base set

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm gonna whip it, but then when he

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Speaker 1: get that, you know, get into an actual game, you

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Speaker 1: kind of revert back. I think that's a really great

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Speaker 1: point that Frank made because Sam is really working on

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Speaker 1: almost like the neuropathways in his brain. This is like

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Speaker 1: really advanced stuff that he said, you know, look, this

499
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Speaker 1: is a two year plan for him to really improve

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Speaker 1: in this aspect. It's not easy to improve your velocity

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Speaker 1: at this point in your career, but Sam is doing

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Speaker 1: it right. And also worth noting that the type of

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Speaker 1: professional and teammate and man that Matt Ryan is, he's

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Speaker 1: committed to helping Sam Ellinger. And that was something Frank

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Speaker 1: pointed out in his press conference, is that you know,

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Speaker 1: Matt's not going to be practicing this week, but he

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Speaker 1: is committed to doing everything he can to help this team.

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Speaker 1: So you think about the asset too, that Sam Ellinger

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Speaker 1: has in already the time he's spent with Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 1: but then also being able to have him in his

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Speaker 1: corner in these situation. That's Clara over to JJ. Snakovitz

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Speaker 1: is here. We can guess all we want about how

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Speaker 1: Sam is going to play in this offense, but he's

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Speaker 1: going to answer those questions this week in practice is

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Speaker 1: going to answer those questions. But getting back to it

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Speaker 1: before we got well not before, but after, you know,

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Speaker 1: we realize they're waxing by Tennessee, let's not forget Paris Campbell,

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Speaker 1: Grover Stewart playing top notch football, Grover showing that he's

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the NFL, and Paris Campbell

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Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL. Now let's keep that rolling. Let's

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Speaker 1: keep up on what he's doing with I mean, Paris

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Speaker 1: Campbell last two weeks and stuff. So we do have

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Speaker 1: to look at the outside in no quarterback place, a

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Speaker 1: huge position. But JJ, I'm gonna start with you, Paris

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Speaker 1: Campbell in this offense, does it stay there? Is? It's

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Speaker 1: the type of receiver that Sam Ellinger is going to

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Speaker 1: be looking for. And also, if you can, is he

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to drop drop a deep ball that

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen yet through seven games this year? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think so. And deep balls are a function of

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Speaker 1: protection in a lot of ways, and a function of

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Speaker 1: calling the right play call against the right defense. But

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Speaker 1: what Paris has done such a good job of man

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Speaker 1: he how many catches he had against Tennessee where he

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Speaker 1: caught it short of the line of game and he

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Speaker 1: found a way to get beyond the line of game.

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Speaker 1: That little bit of yack that he keeps getting consistently,

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Speaker 1: the extra three four yards has been huge for this offense.

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Speaker 1: He looks like a guy who if you need him

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Speaker 1: to run the short stuff, he can do it. If

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Speaker 1: you need him to run deep, we have seen him

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Speaker 1: do it. I love that addition of what he can

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Speaker 1: do in the slot in this offense with Alec Pierce,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of having the outside the numbers guy,

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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman that you know, an outside receiver who can

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Speaker 1: win inside the numbers. The weapons are not the problem

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Speaker 1: with this offense. Nihem Hines, you know, looked good in

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Speaker 1: his return. Jonathan Taylor obviously looked good in his return

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Speaker 1: against Tennessee. The weapons are not the problem. Paris Campbell's

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Speaker 1: assent certainly has been a big part of that. I

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Speaker 1: would say that guys like you just mentioned Grover Stewart

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Speaker 1: and Paris Campbell are the reason that you can't tank

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Speaker 1: like so many people think are happening. There is too

554
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Speaker 1: much buy in and you have too many good guys

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Speaker 1: who are in the prime of their careers and have

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Speaker 1: fought so hard the type to have the type of

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Speaker 1: production that we have seen so far, that this team

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Speaker 1: deserves to put its best opportunity to win out there

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Speaker 1: for the sake of all the guys who have bought

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Speaker 1: in for what Grover Stewart has done. I mean, last

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Speaker 1: week led the team and tackles and had the most

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Speaker 1: tackles buy a d tackle in the NFL so far

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Speaker 1: this season. And one of the things I talked with

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Speaker 1: Frank about on Monday in our conversation was it seemed

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Speaker 1: like Grover has had, you know, this steady progression each

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Speaker 1: and every year, but this has been a leap. I mean,

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Speaker 1: no doubt, this has been a jump. And he said

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Speaker 1: that a huge credit is to the fit that the

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Speaker 1: Gus Bradley system is the coaching of Nate Ali and

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Speaker 1: how well that's worked, But mostly it's on Grover for

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Speaker 1: just investing and immersing himself and the amount of buy

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Speaker 1: in that he has had to this team. Same thing

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Speaker 1: when you look at the adversity that Paris Kimbele has

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Speaker 1: overcome the amount of fight he has proven to get

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Speaker 1: to this point where he is. There's there are too

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Speaker 1: many good things to waste this team. Yeah, JJ, you

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Speaker 1: go ahead with Paris. With Grover, I know the importance

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Speaker 1: of what Grover's doing. I'm gonna get to this defense

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Speaker 1: for lastly before we bring mate back in. But Grover,

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Speaker 1: obviously I have a stupid how much I mean, in

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Speaker 1: a great way, how many tackles an interior defensive on

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Speaker 1: going up against Derek Henry to like an impossible man

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Speaker 1: to try to take to the grassy. But I know

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Speaker 1: we need Paris Campbell. I know we need you know,

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Speaker 1: I know we need this and everybody to come around.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ellen, you're in a way, not physically, but

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Speaker 1: really you know, hug him with all the knowledge that

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Speaker 1: this offense has. But the defense, guys is playing like

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Speaker 1: playing out of their mind. Playoff caliber defense and Shack

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Speaker 1: Leonard has not been on the field for more than

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Speaker 1: the quarter this year. Where are we at? What's the latest?

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Speaker 1: Was Shack? And can this defense carryouts to the playoffs? Yeah? Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, the defense can because right now, the

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Speaker 1: one thing this defense has not done is turned the

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Speaker 1: ball over. You get Shaquilla Leonard back, the takeaway machine

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Speaker 1: guy who's gonna have, you know, some punch outs. He's

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Speaker 1: going to be in the right place for interceptions that

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Speaker 1: that will eventually start to take care of itself. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure the Colts are going to be top ten

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Speaker 1: in the league in takeaways. It's going to be kind

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Speaker 1: of a hard mountain to climb. But over the last

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Speaker 1: ten games of the season, can it be you're limiting

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Speaker 1: teams on scoring though? Right? I mean, look at look

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Speaker 1: at what you did to Tennessee in the red zone,

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Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL in the red zone,

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Speaker 1: and what you did on Sunday. It has a huge

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Speaker 1: testament to the level that they're playing. Gus Bradley has

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Speaker 1: had some great defensive game plans. I mean, the defensive

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Speaker 1: game plan against Patrick Mahomes and three was outstanding. The

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Speaker 1: way that they shut down Denver. I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of teams have shut down Denver, but they really shut

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Speaker 1: down Denver in that Thursday night game. This this defense

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Speaker 1: can play at a level that if your offense can

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Speaker 1: go from being twenty eighth or whatever it is in

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Speaker 1: the NFL into around league average to top half of

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Speaker 1: the league. You're gonna have a chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the Colts are a half game out of

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Speaker 1: a playoff spot. This is who who. You walk into

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Speaker 1: that locker room and tell DeForrest Buckner AND's to find Gilmour.

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Speaker 1: Guys were taking you do that? Tell me how that goes.

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Speaker 1: It's not happening. Not happening. Must bring in Matt Taylor

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Speaker 1: right here. Mattake, come back in with me for a

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Speaker 1: second here, because we got a lot going on. I

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Speaker 1: just want your take. I know it's early in the week, guys,

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Speaker 1: give me a once over the Washington team that's coming

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Speaker 1: in here. Obviously they have quarterback problems to their number

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Speaker 1: one Wench, as you know, but but go ahead. They're

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Speaker 1: very good this Taylor Heney versus Sam Ellinger just as

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Speaker 1: we all expected it. You know, sound a pretty sound

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Speaker 1: football team that's in football games. The Washington Commanders. I'll

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Speaker 1: take your word for it, because I know nothing about

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Speaker 1: the Commanders. I am. I'm admittedly running behind because of

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Speaker 1: all of this news trying to put this all together.

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Speaker 1: So I know they're three and four. They started one

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Speaker 1: and four, they won back to back games. They beat

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Speaker 1: the Packers. But yeah, I'm trying to make sense of

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Speaker 1: who they are because they have a new backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We're taping this on Wednesday or Tuesday. I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: Normally by this point I'm I'm in a decent shape

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Speaker 1: on the opponent, but I'm not this week. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin. That's that's what That's my extent of the

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Speaker 1: Commander's knowledge that kid's good, Taylor, Heney just throw up,

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Speaker 1: throw it up to Terry and make a play. Last

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Speaker 1: last night was a long night's night. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be a long night playing catch up. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: you look at the identity a lot of this Washington team,

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Speaker 1: you know, wh Washington football team turned Washington Commanders. But

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Speaker 1: they embrace a lot of the signatures and the personality

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Speaker 1: of their head coach and Heron Rivera. They have a

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Speaker 1: very disruptive defensive front and that's one of their biggest

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Speaker 1: factors that you have to account for this week. That's

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Speaker 1: going to be what a lot of this hinges on

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Speaker 1: is the intrigue between what they are able to do

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Speaker 1: against this offense with Sam Ellinger that has a lot

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Speaker 1: of question marks and you know the production you're going

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Speaker 1: to get. But I think you also look at look

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Speaker 1: at the Taylor Heinecke story. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: guys followed it much last year, but it's a guy

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Speaker 1: who had played in the XFL. He was like sleeping

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Speaker 1: on his backup in XFL. He was sleeping on his

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Speaker 1: siblings couch when he finally got the call to play

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Speaker 1: for Washington. Ends up, you know, becoming the starter at

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Speaker 1: one point. It's a team that tends to rally around

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Speaker 1: their guys, and they are they are nasty um in

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Speaker 1: terms of there, They're very physical, they love to fight. Again,

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Speaker 1: that goes to their head coach and Ron River, a

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Speaker 1: very well respected coach. So on the flip side, how

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Speaker 1: does this team rally around Sam Ellinger? Because you talk

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Speaker 1: about a guy who has one of the most inspiring,

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Speaker 1: captivating stories in the league loses his dad when he

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Speaker 1: was fourteen years old. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: have heard this, but in synopsis, his dad dies from

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Speaker 1: So Sam grows up. He's obviously the older brother of

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Speaker 1: a younger brother and a sister. Becomes the man of

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Speaker 1: the house, goes on to be a four year starter

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Speaker 1: at Texas, then gets drafted, fulfills his lifelong dream, celebrates

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Speaker 1: with his family, gets the call from the Colts, gets

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Speaker 1: here to the complex, loses his brother the same week,

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Speaker 1: flies back to Austin, has to give a eulogy for

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Speaker 1: his twenty two year old brother. And there is Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. Adversity does not scare Sam Ellinger. This is

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Speaker 1: a guy who has been primed to embrace the opportunity

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Speaker 1: when it comes, and that time is now. Can I

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Speaker 1: predict something for ahead Sunday's game. Let's get it sam

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Speaker 1: Ellinger's first career time down. We'll be thrown to his

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Speaker 1: high school teammate Kylan Granson for his first career touchdown.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about it all week leading up

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Speaker 1: to this game. We got a one o'clock kicked down

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Speaker 1: The whole week is gonna be fun. Colts get back

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Speaker 1: That's me, may take coach, guys, It's time to go

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Speaker 1: to the mail bag. Let's open it up, JJ, What

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Speaker 1: do we got all right? This question is from Brian

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Speaker 1: DeWitt on Twitter at Brian de Witt eighty six. Witty

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Speaker 1: has the NFL moved on from the traditional pocket passer

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Speaker 1: QB to the mobile QB? This is like more of

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Speaker 1: a right answer, I think there is because this year.

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Speaker 1: Now bear with me, because I'm gonna throw some stats

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Speaker 1: at you like Tombert, open up the stat machine, real

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Speaker 1: quick press some buttons for jj al. Right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: So eleven teams this year, I've had a positive EPA

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Speaker 1: Expected points added per play. That's an advanced metric stuff

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Speaker 1: that trust me, is that like war in baseball? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: trust me that this is a good stat that sums

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Speaker 1: up offense. You don't know what I'm talking about, but

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Speaker 1: trust me, this is go ahead. So of those eleven teams,

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Speaker 1: traditionally they're a bunch of them are quarterbacked by traditionally

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Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Daniel Jones, Jacoby Brisette,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, the other one the other five. There are

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Speaker 1: other five quarterbacks here that are athletic. I would describe

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Speaker 1: them as athletic. Patrick Mahomes, Gino Smith, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. The other is Derek Carr, who's not really

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Speaker 1: a statue. Those are the only eleven teams that are avaging.

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Speaker 1: When they have a offensive play, they are more likely

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Speaker 1: to have success in it than not. Basically, does Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus have like an urban dictionary that explains what

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Speaker 1: all of these like and what's Joe Burrow Okay, So

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Speaker 1: the old guard of the NFL, which would probably be

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Matthew Staff. Yeah, look

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Speaker 1: at where the Packers and the Bucks are right right.

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Speaker 1: So Tampa twenty first and EPA per play, Green Bay

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Speaker 1: twenty sixth, Indianapolis twenty eighth, the LA Rams twenty ninth. Wow,

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Speaker 1: So you're you're having a mobile quarterback does not guarantee

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Speaker 1: you success, but it is becoming harder and harder with

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Speaker 1: the way defenses are playing, and defenses have kind of

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Speaker 1: caught up to offenses over the last couple of years

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Speaker 1: to win with a quarterback who can only win from

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Speaker 1: the pocket. That is where you're seeing. It's not just

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Speaker 1: the Colts, but you're seeing the Buccaneers score three points

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Speaker 1: against the Panthers, the Packers drop games to the Jets

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Speaker 1: and the Commanders in consecutive weeks. It is hard to

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Speaker 1: just win from the pocket in today's NFL. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I think that if you're going to win that way,

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Speaker 1: you have to have elite offensive line play. That's what

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Speaker 1: it hinges on. You have to compliment that. And you

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Speaker 1: know that is the difference that you see with teams

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Speaker 1: that are able to be successful. So I think that

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Speaker 1: is that's one of the things as well. If you

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Speaker 1: don't have that elite offensive line production, then yeah, you

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Speaker 1: got to have more often as well as bottom line

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Speaker 1: is according to the stats. And we'll take your word

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Speaker 1: for it, JJ, but it's good to have a guy

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Speaker 1: that can do both or can do it all right.

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Speaker 1: And I think going back to what we talked about earlier, Jeffrey,

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Speaker 1: it does appear that Sam's arm strength and his velocity

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Speaker 1: is grossly improved from last year. That he can make

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Speaker 1: all the throws now, can make that long comeback or

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Speaker 1: that deep out again, the dig, the over that he

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Speaker 1: those secondary throws over linebackers between safeties. Those are the

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Speaker 1: throws that I don't think he was gonna attempt last year.

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Speaker 1: I mean and and training camp at twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Everything was quick, rhythm, seven to eight nine yards down

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Speaker 1: the field. There wasn't a lot of pushing the ball

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Speaker 1: down the field. Now. That was the exact opposite of

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Speaker 1: what we saw in the preseason this year, with big

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Speaker 1: completions down the field, the Desmond Patman and the scramble

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Speaker 1: for forty five yards. So it appears that Sam Ellinger

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Speaker 1: has a lot of tools in his skill set that

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Speaker 1: he can be successful in being a scramble guy and

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Speaker 1: being a traditional pocket passer when the Colts need him

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Speaker 1: to be. But listen, there's gonna be a lot of mistakes. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of mistakes. That up front,

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Speaker 1: let's go. But it's gonna be so much fun. But

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Speaker 1: you have you've got to allow him to make mistakes

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Speaker 1: and then see how quickly he recovers from them. That's

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Speaker 1: when you have to figure out what you've got. No

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Speaker 1: no question, where does Sam ellen or what's the ceiling?

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Speaker 1: Where where is he In the equation of how bold,

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Speaker 1: how daring do we need to be in the draft

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Speaker 1: next offseason to get the franchise quarterback? Is if Ellinger

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Speaker 1: goes seven and three and the Cults make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: let's go less. It lessens your urgency for a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: It also lessens the stock you have and where where

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Speaker 1: you are in terms of your draft pick. You know,

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Speaker 1: a year ago the Eagles were kind of in a

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Speaker 1: rough way to start the season, uh and Nick Sirianni

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Speaker 1: figured something. Now with Jalen Hurtz, this is when they

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Speaker 1: were they were gardening analogies and they were potting plan

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Speaker 1: Nick Siriani what a dope. And now he's the best

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Speaker 1: coach in the NFL. So what do people know, Um,

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Speaker 1: he has an undefeated team. I mean yeah, yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: up there with I mean, best coach in the NFL

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Speaker 1: when you've got Bill Belichick. I don't know who got

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Speaker 1: waxed by the Bears last night quarterback coach. But the

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Speaker 1: point is you can figure these things out during a

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Speaker 1: season with you know you. You know, the Sirianni changed

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Speaker 1: their whole offensive philosophy last year. The cults are changing

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Speaker 1: their whole offensive philosophy right now. This is not a

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Speaker 1: you gotta be willing to take. You gotta be willing

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Speaker 1: to take some risks. One last thing on EPA. Ben

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Speaker 1: Solak from The Ringer just wrote this story literally like

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Speaker 1: three minutes before we started recording EPA per drop back

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Speaker 1: type in the twenty twenty season pass attempt, it's above zero,

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Speaker 1: so it's positive two point zero point two one. Just

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Speaker 1: trust me on these numbers. A sack EPA per play

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Speaker 1: is negative one point six. A scramble is zero point

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Speaker 1: five h eight, So basically a scramble is worth like

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Speaker 1: four times more than a sack in the NFL that

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Speaker 1: is going right now. Where if you have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: who can scramble, that is much more valuable than a

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Speaker 1: traditional pocket pass. I needed to hear up getting do

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Speaker 1: you guys? You guys know where I can get a

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Speaker 1: good EPA. I know I'd like a hazy It's that

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Speaker 1: time the air. I would I'd go with you guys,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta be somewhere around Christmas, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: bail out on the EPA's right or the high pas

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Speaker 1: right now. Listen, Brian DeWitt, thank you. Let's give him

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Speaker 1: a little love. Can we send them my gift or

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Speaker 1: coming here this week. You can listen to Frank Reich

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Speaker 1: recap the game against the titan shed some light out.

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Speaker 1: That's a cult. Round Table Live happens on Monday nights.

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Speaker 1: Reaction after each Colts games. Good stuff, guys, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much to Brian DeWitt for your Twitter question. We

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Speaker 1: do that weekend a week out. We're gonna applaud you

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Speaker 1: may take bring take it away. Got a random thought

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Speaker 1: of the week. We got that time of year on

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Speaker 1: a much lighter note, it's it's been one heck of

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Speaker 1: a forty eight hour period here. My head's hurting, so

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Speaker 1: JJ's got kids. Jeffrey probably has kids somewhere. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: He's a great He's a great guy. Though I wanted

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Speaker 1: podcast now brought to you by twenty three and me

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Speaker 1: DNA tests somewhere. Lord, no, I gotta make some calls.

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Speaker 1: Are you sure I don't need a game? I'm mar

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Speaker 1: mar pay that you're something. Um, I need to know. Guys,

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00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: when you were growing up going trick or treating, what

857
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Speaker 1: was the least which which candy was the least attractive

858
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: to you? Were you most been out of shape that

859
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: you got licorice of any kind? Absolute trash. Get that

860
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: cherry flavored wax or that whatever, that weird black stuff

861
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: is num no, absolute garbage with this. I'm mind you

862
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: with this because I was on a golf course a

863
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 1: few weeks ago and a guy offered me a twizzler

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Speaker 1: or whatever it's called a red vine and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me have that, and I spit it out. No,

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00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was. It was. It was

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00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: stale gum with sugar, absolutely absolute. You go take a

868
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: Yankee candle and just shove that straight in your mouth

869
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: and that's what you're getting. Same And like I love like,

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Speaker 1: I love candy, like I am, like I am. He's

871
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: like I love candy, but no, absolutely not. I have

872
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Speaker 1: no tolerance. Twizzler is the correct answer, but the second

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00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: most correct answer is almond Joy, which is a terrible candy.

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00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: Get out of this awful candy, trash candy, those little

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00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: coconut flakes. No, like you're on, I'm just supposed to

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00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: be just joyful and shine terrible. If I'm having coconut,

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00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: it better being. That's the only that's the only way

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00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm getting all enjoying, not absolute garments. I'm not taking this,

879
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: not taking the sweetest fish. Who gives up swedish Ikia shoppers.

880
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: I'll just throw out big old, like a hunk of

881
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: do they call those red vines or the gum? The

882
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: big red gum? Just throw that no, no, no, hold on,

883
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: So I don't get a lot of trick or treaters

884
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Speaker 1: at my house, I mean like the Broad Ripple area.

885
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: So it's just we don't get a lot. What are

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00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: the tailor and stink of its children dressing up ass

887
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: this Halloween? I saw a picture actually of j J.

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00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm sorry, hold on to that thought. If

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Speaker 1: you guys are taking your kids out for Halloween, you

890
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: have to dress up to dad and Dad. I'm just

891
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: telling you right now. May take JJ could not disagree more.

892
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: If you're not dressed up with your kids, what are

893
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: we doing? I mean it's a family functions. Your dad

894
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: dress up with you. Put yeah a little bit, but

895
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: finally he's like, Dake, get out of here. I don't

896
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: want that. May take mask on throwing jersey on something, guys,

897
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean it's Halloween. I don't remember Superman and having

898
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: to wear a jacket. Any Seinfeld reference here. You don't

899
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: need to throw a jersey on. All right, I'll throw

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Speaker 1: my Edger and James jersey on. Or I got a

901
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel Zue jersey, I'll throw that on. See here's

902
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: the new trend. The new trend is people don't you

903
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: don't go to the I think COVID had something to

904
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: do with this, but people don't ring the doorbell anymore

905
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: because you just hang out in the driveway. I just

906
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: hang out and fire pit in the driveway. And this

907
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: hand out candy kind of takes the romanticism out of it.

908
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: So I had this discussion yesterday with some friends who

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00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: we were walking back with our kids from a trunk

910
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: or treat event and my kid's daycare where you know,

911
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 1: the check out their cars, they get a bunch of candy. Yeah,

912
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: And I was like, what I really want is my

913
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: kids to be old enough where they go trick or treating.

914
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: But I still have to go with them. I don't

915
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: dress up, but I got the wagon, and I got

916
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: a cooler, got some drinks in it, got some snacks.

917
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: We just kind of walk around, you know, around the neighborhood,

918
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: have a couple of drinks. And they're nowhere near that,

919
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: like if we make it to four and a half houses.

920
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: My kids, by the way, to answer Lara's question, they're

921
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: going as excavators. It's their favorite thing, excavators, construction equipment.

922
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: My dad put together an excavator kit for them where

923
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: it has a functioning why so they're like in the

924
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: driver's seat right some photos they want to move, the

925
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: kids want to move their exactly and there they will

926
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Speaker 1: be in those for maybe a minute. It's hard to

927
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Speaker 1: walk in them now because it's got a full boom

928
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Speaker 1: in a bucket. I cannot emphasize that enough. This is

929
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: a functioning boom in a bucket. You want to talk

930
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: about being in the trenches, that's you dress up at all.

931
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: You and Tucker do something on Saturday and broad a

932
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: Washington game. You know, we don't really I have in

933
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: the past, I've dressed up Tugboat as the Beast from

934
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: the Sandlot Hercules. Yeah, so then I'll I just kind

935
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Speaker 1: of throw on my Dodgers baseball cap and I'm Benny

936
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Speaker 1: the Jet all of a sudden, you know, So we'll

937
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: do something that I might dress up. It is a

938
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Speaker 1: Monday here at the complex, so I have an idea

939
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: on a costume that I might break out if I

940
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: don't know, if if I'm feeling good. Let me just

941
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: answer that real quick. When we're talk candy, anything with marshmallow,

942
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: You're I'm throwing your or not name brand candy? Like

943
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: how cheap are you? I know that? Yeah, it's how

944
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: about this? Like the orange thing wrapped up looks like

945
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: a peanut? Who gives that gifts? By the way, don't

946
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: do this. Don't do an apple, don't do fruit, don't

947
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: don't do don't do your five pennies that I used

948
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: to get. I have time for yourn you know, missus Johnson.

949
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't have time for that sort of thing. So

950
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 1: anything with marshmallow is for me, and I can't answer

951
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: on the Maytases costumes. By the way anything from your kids?

952
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: What are they? Hayden's going as a tiger, and Molly

953
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: is going as her name gazelle Addison from Zombies. Okay,

954
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was a theme. He's going

955
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: Addison's going as a tiger. No, no, Hayden is going.

956
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: Now I have more children that I don't know about.

957
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: This is the second time and like two months you've

958
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: done this to me on the podcast. How are those

959
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: kids I have a little Susie doing today. No, Molly

960
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: is going as Addison from Zombies as a Disney showy,

961
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: and Hayden is going as the classic tiger. Fair enough.

962
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: You gotta throw something on, mate, Tomoween, dude with the kids,

963
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: all right, listen, I enjoy this. This is fun. I

964
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: ate marshmallow candy. So that's my answer to the thing

965
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: at Lara Overton at may take colts at JJ snakvins, guys,

966
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: anything before we cut this thing off and say goodbye

967
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: till next week. The commanders are coming into town again.

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00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, Lara. Four twenty five kickoff at Lucasylet what

969
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: do we expect? Give me something? Literally a little crystal ball,

970
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger er start already already gave you mine first

971
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: Grew touchdown goes to col I mean, listen, the Colts

972
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: are interesting. The Colts are interesting. I know they're record wise,

973
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: they're off to a slow start three three and one,

974
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: But the one thing you can't say about this franchise

975
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: in the last four plus years is their dull because

976
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: there's always something good through. I'm gonna go with Jonathan

977
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: Taylor goes for over one hundred rushing yards and two touchdowns. Really, okay,

978
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: I've got a little Moiley cock sighting come back on

979
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: this big tight end day for our guys against Washington.

980
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm just taking a guest there. But Sam Ellinger, we

981
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: all wish you the best, can't wait to watch you

982
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: do what you do and hopefully you're here for the

983
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: next twelve years. For Matt Taylor, Lara Overton, JJ Stank.

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Speaker 1: at win Bett, appreciate the time. Let's go Colts. Any

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Speaker 1: the morning, you find it at Colts dot Com. Talk

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