WEBVTT - Co-Parenting 101

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Good Mom's Bad Choices.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing this week?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hot. It's hot as fuck here in the valley

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, why do I live here? And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a pool and my air conditioning sucks, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you have like two air conditioning because it's fucking hot,

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<v Speaker 2>it should don't work.

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<v Speaker 1>The valley is a very hot place. It's very deserty.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not waste any time. Let's get straight to the

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<v Speaker 3>straight to the meat and potatoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool. So you know we've been asked a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about co parenting and how we manage our co parenting

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<v Speaker 2>schedules and if we have any tips tricks on co parenting,

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<v Speaker 2>and the answer is we do, but we're not masters.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not masters because it takes two people to mask.

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<v Speaker 2>So like you know, I am perfect, obviously, so you

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<v Speaker 2>know this is this works. These things do work whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not your co parenting situation is obvious, like if

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<v Speaker 2>it's amicable, but obviously these will be even better if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a great relationship with the person you went

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<v Speaker 2>half on a baby with. But either way, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you don't have a great relationship now, but if

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<v Speaker 3>you practice some of these steps, maybe you'll get to

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<v Speaker 3>the place where you want to go. These are just

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<v Speaker 3>ways to help two non romantic parents co parent together

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<v Speaker 3>in a successful way. People do always ask about this

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, but Eric, Eric's metaphor for this is

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<v Speaker 3>by far the best metaphor I've heard.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what she told her baby daddy, and ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Since it's been sticking with me. I also told my

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<v Speaker 3>baby daddy this after Erica said it.

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<v Speaker 2>Number One thing is basically, I think of your child

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<v Speaker 2>as like the super Bowl. Okay, so this is like

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest game of your life, and so often we want,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously positive results. We want to win. We

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<v Speaker 2>want our kids to win, want them to be the champion. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>But you have to be able to communicate with your partner.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't lead your child to victory if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are not on the same page about how you have

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<v Speaker 2>decided to raise your child, whether that's like how we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about certain things, you know, how we're introducing people

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<v Speaker 2>to them, you know, just there's just so many there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many aspects to that. So I always I told

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<v Speaker 2>my baby daddy because he loves football, and I was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like like you're the quarterback and you're not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>telling the team the plan. So how the fuck are

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<v Speaker 2>we supposed to win the Super Bowl? There's no way

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna fail.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't lead your child to the goal of winning

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<v Speaker 3>if you're not communicating with the coach and the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just mandatory.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mandatory. And I think a lot of that two

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<v Speaker 2>falls under the category of stop delivering messages through your kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So communicate directly to the person you had the baby with. Now, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're listening, you're like, my naga, don't he sucks?

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<v Speaker 2>He don't communicate. I get it. I get that part,

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<v Speaker 2>But you have to at least try. And maybe if

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<v Speaker 2>you know men love football, maybe if you use Erica's

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<v Speaker 2>metap babe, if mephor of the super Bowl, our baby

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<v Speaker 2>is the super Bowl and we want to lead her

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<v Speaker 2>him to victory. So therefore speak his language. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta speak, You gotta speak in language. So maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he likes baseball, Maybe he's a golfer. I don't fucking know,

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<v Speaker 2>But figure out a sport that connects with his brain

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<v Speaker 2>and use the analogy. And I think that's the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>stages of like opening up the dialogue and understanding that

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<v Speaker 2>you both have to communicate in order or your child

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<v Speaker 2>to win.

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<v Speaker 3>With that being said, co parenting is depends on each

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<v Speaker 3>parent and how capable they are of being mature and

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<v Speaker 3>cooperating with the goal. So we're going to go through

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<v Speaker 3>a list of eight things ish that we think are some.

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<v Speaker 2>Very crucial co parenting tips that can lead you to success.

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<v Speaker 3>However, if you don't have the type of co parent

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<v Speaker 3>that is willing to be mature and communicate, the number

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<v Speaker 3>one thing is don't I mean, you have to communicate,

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<v Speaker 3>but keep it to a minimum, keep it at I

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<v Speaker 3>mean if it's just text messages. For me personally, I

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<v Speaker 3>have a up and down relationship with my co parent,

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<v Speaker 3>so I've had to draw back and give and draw

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<v Speaker 3>back and give depending on.

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<v Speaker 1>The other person.

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<v Speaker 3>So if your person is not willing to be mature,

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<v Speaker 3>I've learned that I've had to cut off all other

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<v Speaker 3>communication unless it's just regarding the child.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dropping her off, I'm picking her up, and even

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<v Speaker 1>when that doesn't work, I will mediate through a third person.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't drop off. I will drop her off at

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<v Speaker 3>your mom's. You can get her.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously that's not any way that anyone wants the situation

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<v Speaker 3>to go. But I've learned that the more I give,

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<v Speaker 3>the more he's.

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<v Speaker 1>What he can. He can piss me off.

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<v Speaker 3>If we have small talk, then there's room for you

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<v Speaker 3>to say shit that I didn't welcome and ask and

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<v Speaker 3>it's not it doesn't regard the child, So I've just

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<v Speaker 3>kept it very minimal. Very transactional and then that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've also learned when you don't have someone that's

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<v Speaker 3>on the same page as you, you can't do shit

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<v Speaker 3>like go to Disneyland together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know for those of you that are listening that,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know you you you feel like your child

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<v Speaker 2>is missing out because they're not seeing you guys parent together,

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<v Speaker 2>like physically, Like we're going to the movies together because

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny needs to see his parents and he wants Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>needs memories of parents going to the movies together. No, Johnny,

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck doesn't okay, especially if you guys have not

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<v Speaker 2>really step severed ties fully emotionally. Now, don't get it twisted.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be emotionally tied to this person for the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of your life because you created life with this person.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what I mean, You like, you're still

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<v Speaker 2>having romantic feelings, You're jealous, You're looking at his Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>every twenty seconds to see who he's posting.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if there's resentment or romantic entanglement still that exists,

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<v Speaker 3>you need to in order.

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<v Speaker 1>To help minimize that zero peepings.

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<v Speaker 2>It's trans You gotta be transactional essentially, Like, don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>the need to, like ask the nigga how his day

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<v Speaker 2>is going, like, we don't need to know, like and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and it takes two. You have to create

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<v Speaker 2>those boundaries because sometimes you're not even doing it, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the other person.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you become you. You're so caught up in

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<v Speaker 1>that routine that you begin to communicate that same way

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<v Speaker 1>I've done it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to kind of decide do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to have a amicable relationship. Sometimes that means you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of got to be a little cold and you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have to dead that relationship in that way. So

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<v Speaker 2>you have to set those boundaries. You don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Disneyland, you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to go to the movie no, like And.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to learn that too, Like I really did,

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<v Speaker 2>because I felt like, because I didn't have that growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted Iri to see, like us do those things.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted her to have those memories and whatever. She

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<v Speaker 2>has some of them, but I've realized that it's just

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<v Speaker 2>not healthy in the long term for our relationship in

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<v Speaker 2>co parenting to do that because it confuses and muddles

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<v Speaker 2>the line for.

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<v Speaker 3>The for the other person, sometimes for you if you're

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<v Speaker 3>the one still holding onto something and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times for the child. And also if you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>go somewhere and not speak to the other person anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually pointless.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like what's the point of going to dinner where

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<v Speaker 2>no one's talking.

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<v Speaker 1>And the energy is off? Kids feel energy.

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<v Speaker 3>They may not know the complexity of what's going on

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<v Speaker 3>between mom and dad, but they know shit ain't feeling right.

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<v Speaker 2>So go with I'll never forget. I'm like, I went

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<v Speaker 2>to baby Daddy asked me that it took me out

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<v Speaker 2>for Mother's Day. This was like two years ago. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like probably the last Mother's Day we spent together,

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<v Speaker 2>and like we didn't even talk the whole time, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it was just we were just sitting there, not talking.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the most pointless. What the fuck was the point?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>No point? Your child is not seeing you engage in

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy way.

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<v Speaker 3>And the truth is it kind of irritated me. It

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<v Speaker 3>actually infuriated me, and I realized this is just.

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<v Speaker 2>Not because I was there. I would I would have communicated.

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<v Speaker 2>He just didn't. He don't really ever know how to

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<v Speaker 2>communicate anyway. So it was just pointless. And now my

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<v Speaker 2>daughter sees that we have weird energy and we're at dinner. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 2>we did this dinner, but like why yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we really saying here anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's I would say super Bowl could be

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<v Speaker 2>considered number one.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe that's just opening the opening statement, opening statement,

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<v Speaker 3>how to open the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>And number two is like setting the boundaries of like

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<v Speaker 2>are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Like there are we?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's be realistic about where are we in this

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<v Speaker 3>cold parenting situation. I could want a cool parent like

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<v Speaker 3>uh Alicia Keys and her and to speeds, but.

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<v Speaker 1>If that I don't have that type of dynamic. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So be realistic about measuring where if that is realistic

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<v Speaker 3>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And third, my favorite most valuable tip.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this tip. This tip is crucial.

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<v Speaker 1>Please listen up. This is important. This schedule. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to find a schedule that works for both parents.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I say both parents, I means the dad

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<v Speaker 3>needs to take those motherfucking kids too.

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<v Speaker 1>And that doesn't mean just on Saturday and Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, there are thirty to thirty one days and every

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<v Speaker 3>month and the dad doesn't get to only get eight Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just not normal.

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<v Speaker 1>We made if you went half on a baby, we

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<v Speaker 1>will go half on raising the child.

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<v Speaker 3>So we may have heard this before, I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 3>you again because it's you should pay me for this

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<v Speaker 3>valuable information. You start the one week Monday Tuesday, one

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<v Speaker 3>parent has the child, Wednesday Thursday, the other parent has

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<v Speaker 3>the child Friday Saturday Sunday. Back with the parent the

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<v Speaker 3>parent from Monday and Tuesday, and then you continue to switch.

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<v Speaker 3>So Monday Tuesday, one parent, Wednesday Thursday, the other parent Friday,

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday Sunday the other parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, you always get a weekend because some I know

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<v Speaker 2>some moms that like never get there. They're setup is

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<v Speaker 2>that they never get a weekend ever. And I'm like why, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously now COVID with all this shit going on, like weekends,

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<v Speaker 2>they are weeks. It doesn't matter. But at some point

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go back and people are gonna you need

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<v Speaker 2>your weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I need my weekend, and not even just the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more about I send no parents who like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Cindy only takes the kid to school and

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<v Speaker 3>to soccer and to piano because those only fallen weekdays.

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<v Speaker 3>And then dad over here or mom whatever usually dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's be real gets the fun shit on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and it just doesn't work. It doesn't work

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<v Speaker 3>out that way. So that way, every parent is fulfilling

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<v Speaker 3>every reroll. You know, sometimes dad has to take you

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<v Speaker 3>to piano and has to wake up his ass early

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<v Speaker 3>and take you to school. It's constantly, it's constantly everybody

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<v Speaker 3>is getting a chance to do everything and nobody's in

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<v Speaker 3>the dark. And then one responsibility doesn't fully fall on

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<v Speaker 3>the other parent, obviously depending on schedules, work schedules and vacations.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully, the point is is once you go there.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you can be more lenient and say, hey, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you take these amount of days and I take this

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<v Speaker 3>amount of days, or you keep her and then I'll

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<v Speaker 3>keep her more so that it's fair and we're working

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<v Speaker 3>together and it's making sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I definitely be flexible, but like, also.

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<v Speaker 3>Start this way so that you can go you can,

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<v Speaker 3>you can you can grow to flexibility because there's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of we've had a standard of what the schedule looks.

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<v Speaker 2>And it really gives your kid more structure so she

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<v Speaker 2>or he knows what's happening, what's coming, whose house they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to, and they don't feel bounced around constantly. Yeah yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So number four would be give them the same courtesy

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<v Speaker 2>you would want them to give to you. So I

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<v Speaker 2>recently experienced this because, as you guys know, I am

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<v Speaker 2>now in a relationship, and you know when I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>early on when me and my ex broke up, I

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<v Speaker 2>told him that if he was going to introduce someone

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<v Speaker 2>to my child or she was going to be around

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<v Speaker 2>my child, I would like to know about it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I was even more crazy. He was like, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to meet her. Now I've obviously, I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a great idea because it doesn't even matter if I

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<v Speaker 2>meet her, because it doesn't mean that like he's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to date her and vice versa. But at least

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<v Speaker 2>give the person the respect of, you know, communicating the

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<v Speaker 2>things that you've asked them to communicate to you. So

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<v Speaker 2>for me, when you know, I told him that I

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<v Speaker 2>was going on a trip with my daughter and my man.

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<v Speaker 2>Unexpectedly my daughter was going to have to come, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I like, I was gonna not tell him

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<v Speaker 2>because I was like whatever, Like he's the one whos

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to have her this weekend anyway, So this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>my fault. But then think shout out to Jessica Rose.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, girl, you need to if you told

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<v Speaker 2>him that, then you need to hold yourself accountable and

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<v Speaker 2>share that information with him. And she was extremely right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad that I did. And so I told him,

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think, whatever that means to you, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's the dating someone, whether it's you know, being respectful,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is that you want from him, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to do that for him as well. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>things take, you know, things happen, people have attitudes, are disrespectful,

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<v Speaker 2>all those things. But I'm going to encourage you to

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<v Speaker 2>always try to take the high road and not be

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<v Speaker 2>petty all the time. Sometimes you must be petty sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, basically it's that good old saying to treat

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<v Speaker 2>people how you want to be treated.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very basic, very difficult if you're not getting the like,

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<v Speaker 3>the reciprocated energy. But I think you gotta do, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>lead by example. If you're dealing with somebody who is

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<v Speaker 3>completely just dumb, Court Court is the next step. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, try all these steps, but ultimately, like Court.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree, you know, I've I've shied away

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<v Speaker 2>from court. I have never done that, and neither is Mila,

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't know, like it hasn't gotten to that

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<v Speaker 2>point yet. Really. However, I have a friend who who

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<v Speaker 2>it did get to that point. We're actually talking yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, girl, it was it's I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>glad I did this. It just it was so hard

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<v Speaker 2>at first. There was so much drama at first, but

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<v Speaker 2>now everything is clearly. There's no like, there's no question

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<v Speaker 2>about what his response abilities, what time he's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be here, what you know, what he you know, all

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<v Speaker 2>those things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's black people.

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<v Speaker 3>Though when we think about like court, I think we

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<v Speaker 3>think about like involving the people in our business.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, well, it is it's involving people in our business

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<v Speaker 2>and them telling us how to run our household and.

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<v Speaker 3>Just letting people in your business. Because I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 3>I went to the courtroom once to get to try

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<v Speaker 3>and file for child support. First of all, there's handy

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<v Speaker 3>like fifty five loose pages that don't make fucking sense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's expensive in California to file for child support,

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<v Speaker 3>like five hundred and fifty five dollars or some shit,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, why the fuck would I be filing

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<v Speaker 3>for child support if I had five hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 3>three dollars to fucking pay for this shit? And then

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<v Speaker 3>they ask you all this shit about your taxes and

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<v Speaker 3>all this other shit, and I was like, fucking never mind.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I have fuck this shit, So don't get discouraged.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's easy to go through that to get to

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<v Speaker 3>the fucking happy end, and you got to go through

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<v Speaker 3>the ship to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think also, I think if someone's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Helping you financially, court, don't take it out on time spent.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that's fair, you know, like, if I'm dumb and

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<v Speaker 3>I decided not to fill the fifty pieces of paper

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<v Speaker 3>and not get money, that's on me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever stop my kid from seeing her dad because of finances.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really think that's fair. I know women who

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<v Speaker 3>do think that's fair, and I kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. You got to do the whole shit. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't do half of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's why I say, if there's conflict financially, do court.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you can, you know, at least come up

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<v Speaker 3>with a schedule that's good for the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick with that as much.

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<v Speaker 2>As possible, right, and also try to keep everything in

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<v Speaker 2>text messages and emails so that if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do go to court, it's documented.

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<v Speaker 2>You have the shit documented.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>This one, this last one, one of the last ones,

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<v Speaker 3>and not one of the last ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one of the last ones.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this came from Erica's therapist, which I thought was great,

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<v Speaker 3>was no matter what, keep a picture of the family,

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<v Speaker 3>parents and child together went in the household.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's very that makes sense. So there's visual.

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<v Speaker 3>In each household. You know your mom or your dad,

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<v Speaker 3>and you see them together, and you grow up with

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<v Speaker 3>those pictures because you don't just leave the house of

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<v Speaker 3>your mom and then she disappears and doesn't exist. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are still a unit to your child, and

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<v Speaker 3>so to have that image around the household while they

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<v Speaker 3>grow up, I think is important.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially if you guys are amicable and like you are

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<v Speaker 2>and can keep it at least in public in front

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<v Speaker 2>of your child amicable. It really, I feel like is

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<v Speaker 2>impactful for the child to see their parents and know

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<v Speaker 2>that they came together in love. Yeah, they came from love.

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<v Speaker 2>They came together in love, and that there's no big

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<v Speaker 2>separation and hiding of this previous relationship that created them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a picture of Iri and me and

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<v Speaker 2>her dad in our living room, and whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>she looks at it every day, I mean, no, she doesn't,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's there. And I also I would also say,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's another one on the list

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<v Speaker 2>about you know, not talking badly about your partner ex partner.

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<v Speaker 1>In front of your child, and don't argue in front

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<v Speaker 1>of your child.

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<v Speaker 2>I think though that's a really big one, is like

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<v Speaker 2>the not arguing in front of them, not talking badly

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<v Speaker 2>and not assuming that your kid doesn't know that you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's and trust me, like it's much easier to fuck

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<v Speaker 3>this up than it is not to. I mean we've

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<v Speaker 3>done it, like yeah, we would be lying to say otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've argued in front of my kid and I

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<v Speaker 3>and I had my parents argued in front of me,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know how that affected me. And even still

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard for me to you know, when someone's pushing

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<v Speaker 3>your buttons and getting petty with you, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>go right into turn up mode and you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>always remind yourself when your child is watching you that

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<v Speaker 3>it's just not worth it's not worth it's not worth

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<v Speaker 3>it you getting out of character, or anyone pulling you

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<v Speaker 3>out of character, because it could. It's it's hard for

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<v Speaker 3>them to understand when their parents don't love you, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>or not getting along or in their eyes, not being

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<v Speaker 3>nice to one another.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I remember the extreme anxiety I had about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my parents arguing, and just I was the

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<v Speaker 2>messenger constantly like I'm going through this list because my coat.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents were terrible co parents, horrible, fucking terrible, and

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<v Speaker 2>so all these things they did not do, like arguing

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me, delivering messages, ain't no super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>and my daddy was a football player, and like it

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<v Speaker 2>was just all fucked up. And as a child, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was filled with constant anxiety about the conversation about

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<v Speaker 2>like having them even like mentioning both of them in

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation like made me sad, you know, And so

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<v Speaker 2>I think spelling even spelling your baby daddy's name. Guess what,

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually they're gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 3>That dies in around three or four, because they're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>know other letters. They're even know what sounds like, and

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<v Speaker 3>they know the tone of what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>And even so like even me, like I've I've made

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<v Speaker 2>this mistake and thought that I was getting away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>She knows. She knew because she understood that my energy

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<v Speaker 2>would change just when I talked about him. Even if

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say his name, she would know I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about him, just based on the attitude or like

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<v Speaker 2>the way the inflections in my voice. Like I remember

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<v Speaker 2>we're one day were I'm seeing a cheesecake factory and

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking to Sebastian about him. I didn't say

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<v Speaker 2>his name. I was really like trying to be cool

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<v Speaker 2>about it. And then she was like, Mommy, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to call my daddy, Like she knew that I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about her. She's sad and she wanted to call him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So just be careful with that, Like your kids, think

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<v Speaker 2>about when you were a kid and how much you understood.

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<v Speaker 2>As adults, we forget, we really really forget.

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<v Speaker 3>We almost insult our kids intelligence a lot, and I

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<v Speaker 3>remember feeling that way as a child, like they're fucking dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>So I tried to not. I try to not do

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing. Even though I do it, It's hard

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm a work in progress because let's be real,

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<v Speaker 3>like your feelings, your emotions get worked up, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you want to talk to someone who's sitting next to

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<v Speaker 3>you about it, and you forget because they're always around.

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<v Speaker 1>One more thing.

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<v Speaker 3>This list is for co parenting, but this is for

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<v Speaker 3>people who are in relationships with their co parent as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You could live in the same household with someone and

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<v Speaker 3>not communicate. I remember speaking of parents because my parents

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<v Speaker 3>fought all the time in front of me, like a

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<v Speaker 3>lot so fucking annoying. Second, one time, my dad, my

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<v Speaker 3>dad let me go to Paris with my cousin the

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<v Speaker 3>first the first week of school and didn't tell my

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<v Speaker 3>mom until the morning I was leaving what he he bought,

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<v Speaker 3>He let he bought my ticket. I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be going to school and instead I was packing my

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<v Speaker 3>bag to Paris and my.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom bougiest story I ever heard, packing my bag.

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<v Speaker 3>My mom is so fucking heated. I was gone for

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<v Speaker 3>like two weeks and she two weeks pissed. I went

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<v Speaker 3>to like some fucking Catholic school. I was like the

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<v Speaker 3>first two weeks, I wasn't missing shit, and I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like it was a once in a lifetime and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But the opportunity to share this information.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my mom is unreasonable, but as a result, she

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<v Speaker 3>didn't talk to me the whole time I was in Paris,

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<v Speaker 3>and whatever, I didn't care I was in Paris. But

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<v Speaker 3>the point is it's very possible for two parents to

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<v Speaker 3>not be communicating in the same household. So don't think

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<v Speaker 3>this list is exclusive to single parents, right, don't argue

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<v Speaker 3>in front of them. Don't fucking send your kid to

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<v Speaker 3>Paris and not tell the other parent. Most importantly is

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<v Speaker 3>once you drop that baby off, have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you boo? Okay, don't have your good look, You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have guilt, but just push through it and do

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the fuck it is that you need to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't need to if you want to call in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning and the night. I'm not gonna tell you

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<v Speaker 2>how often you should be calling your kid Soles.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be honest. I'll confess sometimes I don't call.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I don't call either because I know if I call.

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<v Speaker 3>She's gonna remember that she she misses me, then she's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be mad at me. And sometimes you need to

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<v Speaker 3>just be over there and be where you're at. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times we're worried about our kids missing us.

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<v Speaker 3>But kids have like a one dimensional, no social media mind.

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<v Speaker 3>They're where they're at, doing what they're doing, having a

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<v Speaker 3>good fucking time, you know, blowing bubbles and shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't interrupt that.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes you gotta just not be the mom

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<v Speaker 1>or the dad, and you got to just go fully

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<v Speaker 1>into wherever you're going and go there and then on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday check back in.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay, you know, it doesn't mean you're the worst

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<v Speaker 3>fucking parent on earth. No, even though the nail lady

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<v Speaker 3>tried to shame me yesterday. Why she was like, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going you're going out of town. Oh, that's very long,

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<v Speaker 3>you're taking your daughta. I was like no, She was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, she's gonna miss you. I was like, hurry

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<v Speaker 1>up and finish this tip.

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<v Speaker 3>People are always going to try to guilt you, probably

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<v Speaker 3>because they got some of their own shit going on.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't let people guilt you about your free time, especially moms.

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<v Speaker 3>Men do it all the time. Men take care of shit,

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<v Speaker 3>go out of town, don't know what the fuck they'd

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<v Speaker 3>be doing over there, and nobody says shit. So take

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<v Speaker 3>that same mentality when I go out of town when

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<v Speaker 3>I need space when I'm like, I need to handle myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you hold her for two weeks so I can

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<v Speaker 1>fix shit or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel bad about it because guys do it

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<v Speaker 3>all the time and the children survive.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I agree. I agree with all those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>One last tip, I don't know if it's a tip,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just slided in there. That I that I

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<v Speaker 2>do with my family and him is that we're on

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<v Speaker 2>a group text. I don't know if like you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're listening, are like in a space where you

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<v Speaker 2>can do that. But it's helpful to be in a

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<v Speaker 2>group text with the family, so you can share things,

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<v Speaker 2>their accomplishments, so they moment moments, so he can know

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<v Speaker 2>and I can know. Grandparents can know, Yeah, what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in her life, what she's doing. Even like he'll share

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of her when they're together, like when he has her,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's cool with me, Like it lets me know,

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<v Speaker 2>it lets me feel like at peace, like, Okay, she's

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<v Speaker 2>having she's cool, she's having fun, and vice versa. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you can do that, if you guys are in

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<v Speaker 2>a mature enough place to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Even if you just start then hopefully eventually that other

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<v Speaker 3>person will catch.

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<v Speaker 2>On right, and just sharing your kids accomplishments grades all

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<v Speaker 2>those things. And also it's a good way to have

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<v Speaker 2>a track record of what the fuck's happening. So those

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<v Speaker 2>are our tips.

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<v Speaker 1>That concludes our list of co parenting tips.

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<v Speaker 3>And most importantly, just say a prayer, because honestly, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what that shit really requires. It's just a prayer

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<v Speaker 3>because everybody knows like it's already hard to deal.

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<v Speaker 1>With an X and then you just throw a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>whole human in the mix and you can't cut the

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<v Speaker 1>other person off. So good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck with that. And if you guys have any

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<v Speaker 2>other tips that you think we missed, or you have

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<v Speaker 2>any tips for us, because maybe you guys are farther

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<v Speaker 2>along in your co parenting journey, please share them. Let

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<v Speaker 2>us know what they are dm us. You can leave

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<v Speaker 3>We love we love contribution, and we'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 3>stories of successful co parenting real quick. I went to

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<v Speaker 3>our friends son's second birthday party and her ex showed

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<v Speaker 3>up with his new twenty five year old girlfriend, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was very mature about it. She actually invited her.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, she's gotta be in her live their lives anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>fuck it. They just broke up.

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<v Speaker 1>He just moved out that she came to the party,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you real mature over here, because I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if I could do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's just like.

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<v Speaker 3>Be the Jaden Will channel Jaden Will Yeah, and send

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<v Speaker 3>in your successful cold parenting tips.

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