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Speaker 1: I Am all in Again. Let's you.

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Speaker 2: I Am all in Again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Again a

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Speaker 1: podcast one of one productions iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, I Heart Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're doing a recap of season one, Episode thirteen Concert

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Speaker 1: interrupt Us and we have some very special guests with

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Speaker 1: us today, Vicki Peterson from The Bengals, John cow Sill

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Speaker 1: from The cow Sills. Vicky Peterson is an American rock

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Speaker 1: musician and songwriter best known as the lead guitarist and

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Speaker 1: founding member of the Bengals. Since the band's inception in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, has been integral to their signature sound,

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Speaker 1: while also pursuing projects with groups like The Continental Drifters

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Speaker 1: and The Psycho Sisters. Beyond her work with the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: she has contributed harmony vocals to recording artists such as

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Speaker 1: Tom Petty, Belinda Carlisle, and John Doe. John cow Sill

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Speaker 1: is an American musician best known as singer and drummer

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Speaker 1: with his siblings pop group The cow Sills. He launched

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Speaker 1: his career at an early age with a family band

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Speaker 1: that inspired the television hit the Partridge Family, and later

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Speaker 1: twenty three years and recorded with artists like Tommy twotone

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Speaker 1: and Jan and Dean. In two thousand and three, he

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Speaker 1: married Vicki Peterson, and the couple has since blended their

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Speaker 1: musical talents and various collaborative projects. John and Vicki have

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Speaker 1: a new album coming out on April twelfth, Long After

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Speaker 1: the Fire, which is a tribute to John's late brothers

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Speaker 1: and Bill and Here they are, ladies and gentlemen, Vicki

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Speaker 1: Peterson and John Colcil. Oh wow, nice to meet you.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I spent the morning listening to your music.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yay.

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Speaker 1: I'm like two legends sitting here. I get to talk

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Speaker 1: to two legends. I was just I have a confession

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Speaker 1: to make. I just listened to I saw your live

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Speaker 1: concert or maybe it was ten years ago.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it wasn't ten years ago. If I was

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Speaker 3: singing here was he involved?

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Speaker 2: Well, because it could have been the siblings.

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Speaker 3: If it's my siblings, I don't work with them.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're so oh, they were out touring.

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Speaker 3: Out as the Cowcios. That's my sister, Susan, Pap and Paul.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha and they do the Happy Together tour with flowing

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Speaker 3: turtles and it's like the old Dick Clark's Cavalcade of

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Speaker 3: Stars show. That's a very successful tour that they are

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Speaker 3: on every year. Now, okay, that's probably what you saw.

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Speaker 1: He's been with for so long that he wasn't able

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Speaker 1: to gotcha, gotcha, gotcha? I read I read about the

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Speaker 1: Beach Boys things too, God darn it. Yeah, then what happened?

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Speaker 2: Just nothing bad happened. It's okay, he said, dog gone it.

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Speaker 3: I think what happened?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't even know if I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about the episode. So much is just

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Speaker 3: Oh wait a second, but I saw the episode for

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Speaker 3: the So.

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Speaker 1: What'd you think? What? John? What did what did you

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Speaker 1: What did you think? What did you think?

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Speaker 3: I told her, I said, Okay, I have to go

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Speaker 3: back to the first episode now and see what this

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Speaker 3: show goes about, because I never saw the Gillmore's. I

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Speaker 3: And uh, and it has it's so successful, and so

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Speaker 3: how I found a lot of things, like let's.

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Speaker 2: Say you got I think he was utterly charmed, as

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Speaker 2: I think most of us were, the first time we

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Speaker 3: Please do that?

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Speaker 2: Please do we should do that more?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Vicky? What was it like? How did the show

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Speaker 2: We were It came through an email, if I remembering correctly,

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Speaker 2: and we all just jumped at it with what do

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Speaker 2: you mean? Gilmore girls? And it turns out that the producer,

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Speaker 2: Amy was was a huge fan, had been for a

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Speaker 2: know that seemed really exquisitely original and fun. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: it just we were very excited and it was. It

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Speaker 1: And it seemed I know, nobody ever does it in

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Speaker 2: We were actually you know what? Okay okay, And I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you guys were nailing it live. It looked

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. And did you get to spend

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Amy came into the trailer to our trailer, you know,

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Speaker 2: we did get to meet Lauren and and Alexis was

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Speaker 2: Lauren was just as hilarious as Laura. I. I mean, her

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the journey, you know, the

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Speaker 1: formation of the Bengals, the formation of the cow Sills.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that journey because it's so

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Speaker 1: exciting to so many people. You know, I'm a songwriter.

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Speaker 1: I've written songs. I've been in bands my whole life.

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Speaker 1: I had my first band when I was in third grade.

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Speaker 1: We played back in the USSR and I'm Not Your

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Speaker 1: stepping Stone, and that's all we knew. I used to,

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Speaker 2: You know, uns familiar.

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Speaker 1: Tell me, Tell me about how the journey began, the

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Speaker 1: formation of the first group, the first people involved in

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Speaker 2: Well, we both have very different origin stories, I have

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Speaker 2: both of us probably started as kids pretending to be

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Speaker 2: the Beatles. So difference with John's families that they were

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Speaker 2: into a toothbrush ord. You know, I tell your story anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we we. You know, my sister and I started out

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Speaker 2: and just we're part of this little mini movement in

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Speaker 2: inspirations from sixties and again sixties and seventies music, vocal

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Speaker 2: harmonies of birds and the Mamas and Papas and the

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Speaker 2: Beach Boys ands and then put that on top of

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Speaker 2: you know what was basically a garage band, right, sort

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Speaker 1: You know what, yes, all those elements. It does have

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Speaker 1: some punk elements too. I just listened to Fall the

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Speaker 1: Hero and yeah, really terrific songwriting. But you know, on

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Speaker 1: just so good, such a such an interesting combination of things. Yeah, physician, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what were the crowd sizes? Like in the beginning when

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Speaker 1: where were your first gigs? Were you at the Troubadour?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of a storied punk rock club and they

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Speaker 3: They were really a band that they were embraced by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it has that energy, it has that drive

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Speaker 2: We just kind of that was sort of the world

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Speaker 2: the sort of shining beacon was to play the Whiskey

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Speaker 2: on from there. But the playing the Troubadour and the

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Speaker 1: Did you now you went on larger tours, right, I mean.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals were an overnight success. We did those early

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Speaker 2: of which were lovely. We toured at the English Beat,

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Speaker 2: We sort of aborted our own little club tour when

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Speaker 2: we got invited to open for Cyndi Lauper, who was

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Speaker 2: also incredibly supportive and lovely too. She was our mama.

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Speaker 2: That was not a name dropping, that was actual.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the question. Can legends can't name drop because

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Speaker 1: they're legends.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know. We keep looking for those people.

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Speaker 3: Are they here yet?

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Speaker 1: Like legends do legends just sort of talk about their associates.

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Speaker 1: It's not a name so for you know, for somebody

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Speaker 1: like me, you know, it would be a name drop.

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Speaker 1: See that's on my front door. That makes sense.

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Speaker 3: He's dropping off a snare drum for right.

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Speaker 1: He's a pain of pain.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, but you know, like I was saying with John,

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Speaker 2: had a whole different come back here.

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Speaker 3: No, we're still talking about.

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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 3: And you did it and Mira, Oh for sure, Oh

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Speaker 3: for sure did I Someone said we.

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Speaker 1: Were like still still you kind of are You're very funny.

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Speaker 3: I always called her because she does this thing. Yeah

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Speaker 3: that's what you do anyway.

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Speaker 1: There you go, right, needed the Muse returned in a

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Speaker 2: That's great February on the Bengals Authorized Biography.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in the Heartbreakers. It couldn't have

439
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: been a more exciting moment. It was like one of

440
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: the best talk.

441
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a hell that's a hell of a band.

442
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: It was insane.

443
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: They were like that Heartbreakers band. Wow, it was a.

444
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: Great American band. They were like the American rock.

445
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: They really were. I mean they are. They were just

446
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: a mind blowing band.

447
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: Well, Mike and been both having new products out too

448
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: right now, so I'm just yeah, I'm telling you record

449
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: and Mike Campbells.

450
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: You know their drummer Steve Lynch, stan Steve yeah, Steve yeah,

451
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: Steve yeah. I did an EP I don't know six

452
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: seven years ago, eight years ago, and Steve was he

453
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: was in the session. He played, he played drums sessions.

454
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: He's what a great talent.

455
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: And before him Stan Lynch of course, and we we

456
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: were thrilled. Last week we got an email from Stan

457
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: because he had heard our song a thousand times and

458
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: he and he had to email us to say, you guys,

459
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: that that was just really great.

460
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: He goes, he writes really really big letters.

461
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: Really that felt that was that was great to hear.

462
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: That was really nice.

463
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: He you got that band, that band. I was just

464
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: watching a video of them in Chicago. They did a

465
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: Black Leather Woman live.

466
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: Wow.

467
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean the soul of that band is just bluesy Chicago. Wow.

468
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: That's a dangerous band. Oh my god. And you got

469
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: to play with them.

470
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: Wow, that's amazing, right.

471
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: Wow, John, you played with the Beach Boys. You were

472
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: in the Beach Boys. You were playing Bob Dylan, you

473
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: were Chuck Berry. Wow, what's going on? Brother? I have

474
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: been in the room with many people, you know, the

475
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: two like of all the shows I've ever seen in

476
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: my life, and I've seen a lot of people live.

477
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: I've seen everybody live. The Beach Boys, I saw them

478
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: in the early eighties and Fort Lauderdale on the beach,

479
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: and then they were in a high school auditorium I

480
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: don't know a year later back in Florida, and it's

481
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: the stunning part about that was how many hits they have,

482
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: because every single song was a massive hit, and it

483
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: was just one after another after another after another, and

484
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: you're like, I never realized they had this many hits

485
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: and it was like two hours of hits. What was

486
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: that experience like for you?

487
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 3: It was amazing. I couldn't believe it, you know. I

488
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: put a We've known them for a long time. I

489
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: mean my family, I've known Mike. Our first show, I

490
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: think the Couseles we we opened up. It's called sound

491
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: Blast sixty six. Nineteen sixty six, there was a Yankee

492
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: Stadium show and that's what it was called. And the

493
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: Cowtles opened up for Stevie Wonder Ray, Charles Eda James,

494
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: the McCoy's, the Birds, the Association, and the Little Stevie

495
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: one Under and Beach Boys with the Headlights. And so

496
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: that's the first time I ran into them and got

497
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: to say hey. But it was an amazing thing. I

498
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 3: was sitting on my couch one night. I had played

499
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: with Jan and Dean for several years, so I met

500
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: I worked with Mike and Dean. They would do these

501
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: spring breaks thing like in the early like eighty eighty one.

502
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: I can't remember the day, but around that era and

503
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: I was broke. I mean, I was living in a

504
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: car sometimes, and so I was really happy to run

505
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: into a few friends up in Santa Barbara. Whe was

506
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: Jeff Fosquet and who had just joined the Beach Boys,

507
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 3: and so he introduced me to Mike Love on the property,

508
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 3: and so I ended up doing these Mike Love and

509
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: the Endless Summer Beach Point gigs. I did a couple

510
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: of them, and then Mike and Dean Torrents of Jan

511
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 3: and Dean would go out and do these spring break things,

512
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: and so that's how I kind of got into the

513
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: got the organization of this time around. And then I

514
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: kind of blew it because I was i'll behaved person

515
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: on the road because I think I'm funny, you know,

516
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: but a lot of people don't think my humor is funny,

517
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: like Love is. People don't think he's funny, but I do.

518
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: So there's too many details, but I ended up in

519
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: the Beach Boys in two thousand along with my friends

520
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: Scott Tatten, and I was on piano for the first

521
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: seven years and singing, and then they moved me to

522
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: the drums after that, and then I had a great

523
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: career with them. I played twenty three years with the

524
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: Beach Boys, had the best time, best catalog. They treated

525
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: me so well. And then I don't know the details

526
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: of why I always let go, but that's fine because

527
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: it's a revolving door of musicians.

528
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: I am twenty three years.

529
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: Three years, believe me. Three of those I was how

530
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: do I stop? And you know, and Vicky say, when

531
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: are you stopping? So we can have the rest of

532
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: our life before we die. So it was things were

533
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: meant to be. So we have our project together after

534
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: Beach Boys is over and and it's fun. This is

535
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 3: our retirement. Vicky Peterson and John Colson.

536
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: We never would have had a moment to record a record,

537
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: much less promoted and tour on it. If if John

538
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: was stiltory with the Beach Boys.

539
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: Eighty shows a year.

540
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: The year and what kind of venues were the Beach

541
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: Beach Boys do you want us to play? And any

542
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: kind of venue?

543
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: Any kind We'll play your backyard birthday party?

544
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

545
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: Really much? Oh much? It wasn't up to me. So

546
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: so they were gettingcho I get paid the same no matter.

547
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: What Beach Boys. The Beach Boys were doing, like you know,

548
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: private parties and things like that. So getting a ton

549
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: of requests like from you know, people that can afford

550
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: a band.

551
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: Like absolutely, and we play small theaters, twelve hundred theaters rights.

552
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: What's it like being so deeply embedded in pop cultures?

553
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have had so many songs featured

554
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: on TV shows, films, Austin, power, stranger things. Do you

555
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: get excited when you hear Vicky like, for example, a

556
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Bangals song in pop culture today? What's that like? You

557
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: could be anywhere and you're hit with a bangle song.

558
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: What's that like in the drug store? I mean, that's

559
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: that's that's great and and I love getting these requests

560
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: for you know, for TV shows or for films. I mean,

561
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: that's that is one way to keep the music alive

562
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: sin sink, you know, And that's taking a song possibly

563
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: out of its context and it's not necessarily going to

564
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: be at a you know, eighties themed bachelorette party. It

565
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: might be something completely different, and the somebody, the director

566
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: of the producer, came up with this idea, well, what

567
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: if we use you know here, it takes a fall

568
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: in this completely different context in it And I love

569
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: when that happens, you know, when it's sort of used

570
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: outside of the expected use. You know, Yeah, I mean.

571
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: It's I'd be happy to see it anywhere.

572
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's yeah, it's it's fantastic.

573
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: Would you ever get the band together, Vicky for a

574
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: special occasion?

575
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: Of course?

576
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

577
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: I never say never, not anymore.

578
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: I'd love live music. I just love it. I love

579
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 1: to be around it. I love to play it. I

580
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: love to do.

581
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: It and help it.

582
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: You guys are legends. Your genius is your great song, right.

583
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: People deserve, people deserve to hear your music. You know,

584
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: there's a lot of music out there today, and there's

585
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: a lot of really good music out there today, but

586
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: but what it's missing is a band, the human connection,

587
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: the power of people playing on stage together live like harmonizing.

588
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: I don't think there was a better time than the

589
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: late sixties, mid mid to late sixties, and well actually

590
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: the entire sixties, even the late fifties with all those

591
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: brilliant you know, I heard the Beatles demo when they

592
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: got turned down, initially five song demo. It was so

593
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: good that it just it blows your mind how good

594
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: they were when they were teenagers and they said.

595
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: No because guitar bands were on the way out, right, Okay, right,

596
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: guitar bands were on the way out, just like there

597
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: is no rock and roll right now, right, Well, it

598
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: will come back. There will always be.

599
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: You know, well it exists, but not in the mainstream

600
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: rock and fill will never go away now seeing the

601
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: live shows, Jesus lizard, I mean people are out there.

602
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: They're not in the pop world.

603
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, so a little let me, let me

604
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: get into this because it's just it wouldn't be so

605
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: much fun. I just my favorite people in the world

606
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: are songwriters. I just I worship songwriters and people that

607
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: do it as well as you two do it deserve

608
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: an audience.

609
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 3: And I do want to say this album that we

610
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: have done, I don't know if you know the history

611
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: of this, but what this project is the first thing

612
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: that I always have wanted to do. And Becking I've

613
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: always discussed this is my brother Bill and Barry who

614
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: passed away, wrote some incredible songs and I have heard

615
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: them my whole life. I'm not a big writer, although

616
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: I do right and I can fix a lot of songs.

617
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: I had bridges and you know, more music and melody

618
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 3: I'm top line guy. But the album is songs written

619
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: by Bill cowcill and Barry cowcilm and it's just the

620
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: best of their stuff really and to do this, I

621
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: just remember them doing these songs.

622
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: Arry Barry wrote some of these songs as a teenager

623
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: year old songs. And so we.

624
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: Enjoyed making it and it's great and we're connected to it,

625
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: and so we just said, let's put this out. You know,

626
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: it's just beautiful. And Alan who who this wouldn't happen

627
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: without him, who is our producer, just made it sound beautiful,

628
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: you know, his production values, and so that's what I

629
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: speak to a song.

630
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we're bringing out to the world.

631
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 3: Right now, is we're bringing these songwriters to you and

632
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 3: to the brothers a lot.

633
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: Just really thank you for sharing that. That's very touching

634
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: and that's that's the reason to perform and a reason

635
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: to share your music with an audience. Is just what

636
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: you're doing right now. It's just a beautiful, rare it's

637
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: very rare thing making that connection. And talking about bridges,

638
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: the bridge and hair. I'm obsessed with bridges. I put them.

639
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: I try to, I try to, you know, you try

640
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: to come up with some great bridge.

641
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 3: Me too.

642
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: It's so much fun to get something that's even close

643
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 1: to being a decent bridge and then lead it back

644
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 1: into the into the main. But the one in Hair

645
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: is just just it's so good, it's so good.

646
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 3: We recorded hair e Fort Carl Reiner got the gods

647
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: to re record this song lips and getting due to

648
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: hairs and chain. So we're in the studio and it's

649
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: about this bridge. It took fifty eight takes because every

650
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: time it came to the bridge, I slowed down, and

651
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: there's editing. This is analog. Baby. When you said the

652
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: bridge and hair, I just gulped and left.

653
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: Leave it to me to bring up the gray memory.

654
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: I tortured, I tortured my brothers. I think, by God,

655
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: he's taking forever and so you hear it. It's but

656
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: it's a whole different thing. So it's okay to have

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, beautiful, beautiful record, beautiful songs, guys, real pleasure.

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Speaker 1: And you know, uh, Jackie, and I'm gonna have your information.

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Speaker 1: I'll be in touch, we'll be in touch. I let's

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Speaker 1: let's set up. Let's just do what we can do.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just I always think, you do what's doable.

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Speaker 3: And uh, we'll be in Europe the next month. But okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm touring with Peter Parrott, the only Ones.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well it'll take that long to set

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Speaker 1: it up anyway, so by the time you get back,

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Speaker 1: you'll just walk on to a stadium stage and just

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Speaker 1: rock out sixty thousand today. Guys, what a pleasure, Vicky,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Uh, John, just love you guys,

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Speaker 1: and your music is important and impactful and fantastic and

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Speaker 1: fun and beautiful and uh it means a lot to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. And keep going and let's see

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Speaker 1: what we can do together. It would it would be

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I have, I have, I have

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Speaker 1: some good relationships in the music world, and uh and

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Speaker 1: and let's let's put something together because I think it

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Speaker 1: would be a real gift too to whatever audience shows up,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see what we can do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, lovely, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely our pleasure. And we didn't really talk about the episode.

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Speaker 1: Did you love the episode? Yeah, we love the episode.

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Speaker 1: It was great. All right, thanks guys, Bye, guys, be good, Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's going to do it than get a

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Speaker 1: Vicki Peterson and John Calcil And remember where you lead,

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Speaker 1: we will follow. Stay safe, everyone, do everybody, and don't forget.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at i Am All In Podcast

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Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmour at iHeartRadio dot com