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<v Speaker 1>number five is here is well. Good morning to Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>and ladies and gentlemen joining us for what is a

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<v Speaker 1>Q three MLB derivative show. We'll do other things. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk golf with Brady Cannon, and we'll talk about today's

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<v Speaker 1>baseball slate as well. But it is right at the

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<v Speaker 1>one twenty game mark, one twenty one game mark for

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<v Speaker 1>most Major League Baseball teams. So what does our Q

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<v Speaker 1>three MLB derivative show? And joining us for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time for this endeavor, ladies and gentlemen. He's here yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Lasdell. Let's Todd Wish. Good morning Todd, Good morning Gil.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Gil and Todd Show, and thanks for coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for having me. Todd appreciate it. Um you

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<v Speaker 1>uh you excited about little derivatives here man, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna through all these baseball stats, and again we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>try to determine how much of this is narrative and

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<v Speaker 1>how much of this is predictive moving into the last

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of the season. By the way, I'm if you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard me on this show a couple of times I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about how the Yankees can put any blob of

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<v Speaker 1>meat in a Yankee stadium. You've in a Yankee uniform,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden they hit the ball out

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<v Speaker 1>of the ballpark. And I said, oh, well, the Yankees

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<v Speaker 1>are probably stealing the signs like the Cardinals did a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago. So this guy, David Lionetti, sent

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<v Speaker 1>me a thing on Twitter. It's an article from the

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<v Speaker 1>Boston Globe why the Red Sox are looking for counter

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<v Speaker 1>espionage inside their caps. What they're doing now is they're

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<v Speaker 1>putting they keep switching the signs so they don't get

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<v Speaker 1>people stealing their signs. So like, if Christian Vasca is

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<v Speaker 1>the catcher, maybe it's the third sign one time, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth sign of different time, it's the second sign

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<v Speaker 1>a different time. And I didn't read the whole article,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have like a little cheat sheet in their

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<v Speaker 1>cap as to which sign is the correct sign to

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<v Speaker 1>foil counter to foil people who are trying to steal

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<v Speaker 1>their signs. So stealing signs is a real thing, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you watch these yeah, and if you watch

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<v Speaker 1>The Yankees with Cameron Maybon, Mike Talchman as you like

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<v Speaker 1>to call him, I'm claiming him Brave val Era and

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<v Speaker 1>of course my favorite guy, pizza aficionado. Now I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this for sure, but I have a feeling he

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<v Speaker 1>likes pizza. Mike Ford down at first base, you're disdained

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<v Speaker 1>from Mike Ford. Actually, Mike Ford, I'm sure is a

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<v Speaker 1>great guy. But you know, you know, when you're fat,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you don't like fat and others. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>psychological thing, you know, you hate what you see in others.

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<v Speaker 1>So because I'm a fat so I've got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at Mike Ford and I go, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're in the major leagues, you should be, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in shape. But as opposed as a Mike

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize to you, you're on the Yankees keep stealing

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<v Speaker 1>the signs as opposed to really relating to him and

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<v Speaker 1>finding him lovable. So you what you are suggesting is

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<v Speaker 1>that the Eggies because anyone who puts on a uniform

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden becomes amazing. They have to be stealing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tongue in cheek. I'm staying a tongue in cheek.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I would bet on it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's kind of fishy. I understand by the way

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<v Speaker 1>I am claiming Tauchmann, there had to be an Ellis

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<v Speaker 1>Island incident. I just want to point that out. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do uh, let's do some major League baseball stats.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here it is is the Q three Derivative Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and the point of this exercise and and we'll we'll

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<v Speaker 1>intersperson throughout the show will also do today's games. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to narrow this down. At first, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be very public domain stuff. And then we're gonna narrow

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<v Speaker 1>it down into the proprietary stuff, which is first five innings. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not quite propriet to. The first inning stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>super proprietary. Um. But let's start with just the general things.

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<v Speaker 1>These are widely available. We get these from covers dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's give them a shot on this. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>best um in terms of betting stats. Now, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about real life here for this exercise, but in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the betting stats, the single most profitable teams

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<v Speaker 1>in all of baseball a bizarro exerci eyes todd as

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<v Speaker 1>if you bet this team every single game on the side,

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<v Speaker 1>all year long, laying a unit as a dog, risking

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<v Speaker 1>more than a unit to win a unit as a favorite. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And even when you do all that in the wash,

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<v Speaker 1>here are your most profitable teams in baseball. Here most

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<v Speaker 1>profitable clubs, it is the Yankees and the Dodgers, both

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<v Speaker 1>at eighty and forty one in real life. See that

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees would have netted you in that Bizarro exercise

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<v Speaker 1>nearly twenty units, and the Dodgers would have netted you

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen units. So again, that's you bet them every day

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<v Speaker 1>sight unseen, you don't care the opponent whatever. Again, lay

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<v Speaker 1>a unit as a dog, risk more than a unit

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<v Speaker 1>to win a unit as a favorite. And even with

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees and Dodgers getting dealt big minus numbers right

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<v Speaker 1>more often than not, even doing that, they're so good

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<v Speaker 1>right eight and forty one in real life that they're

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<v Speaker 1>still the most profitable teams in baseball. Well, let's look

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<v Speaker 1>at the math. If they were eight and forty. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just throw out the one. They would be winning two

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<v Speaker 1>out of every three games if they were minus two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred every game, and I assumed this would be like

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<v Speaker 1>the midpoint line or they're they're just taking whatever their

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<v Speaker 1>line was. So if they were minus two hundred every

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<v Speaker 1>single game this year, they would have broken even if

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<v Speaker 1>you would have bet them every single game. Obviously they there.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, they're up about eighteen units in twenty games,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're average prices is less than the average prices

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<v Speaker 1>probably somewhere in the neighborhood. I mean, I'm just doing

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<v Speaker 1>the math off my off the top of my head,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably one sixty maybe doesn't sound about right. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me think about that. One sixty and forty units forty

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<v Speaker 1>times one sixty is what point is is that they're

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<v Speaker 1>exceeding their break even right there. They're doing better than

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<v Speaker 1>they're breaking there. It is forty times one point six

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<v Speaker 1>is uh sixty four losses. So right there, you know

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<v Speaker 1>eight wins sixty four losses. You know you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>they're averages right around one sixty. Minnesota, San Francisco at

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<v Speaker 1>Oakland close out the three most profitable teams. This is

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<v Speaker 1>just a money line bets. Now we're talking the Twins

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<v Speaker 1>who uh caught most of baseball by surprise early let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking set seven in real life, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>netted you over fourteen units this year. How about the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants who are back to five hundred again Todd

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<v Speaker 1>Wishne making the daily mistake of not factoring enough Giants

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<v Speaker 1>magic into his model. Giants up thirteen units for betters. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're largely plus money night after night after night. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why, you know, you don't have to do better

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<v Speaker 1>than five hundred to have netted thirteen units overall. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we'll find out in these splits here momentarily

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<v Speaker 1>how at home they're not profitable, and we see that

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen right there, just a sort of portent

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<v Speaker 1>of things to come. But away, man, they're a cash machine.

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<v Speaker 1>A's by the way, the other Bay Area team who

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants beat last night, they're the fifth most overall

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<v Speaker 1>profitable team at all at baseball. So another interesting point

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<v Speaker 1>about that. In the old days, um, you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was you almost could never bet a minus two hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>You just couldn't do it and win. And you see

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<v Speaker 1>from these numbers here that it's almost like betting has

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<v Speaker 1>been turned baseball. Betting has been turned it on its head.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I listen I said before last season,

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<v Speaker 1>Remember I said, very ear lonestly, we're about to enter

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<v Speaker 1>an era of baseball where that chasm between the halves

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<v Speaker 1>and the have knots gets wider and wider. And this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I said earlier in the season, if you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the show, I said, you almost have to shut off

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<v Speaker 1>your brain betting baseball, and the Yankees and the Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>being on top of that list is the manifestation of that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're huge favorites. Every night, you still would have

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<v Speaker 1>made the most money in baseball betting on them. That

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<v Speaker 1>says it, all right, you know, you know it's not

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<v Speaker 1>shutting off your brain. It's actually using your brain. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. No, I don't know. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're trying to say. But the point is you

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<v Speaker 1>really have to use your brain even more in a sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Value is value. Originally you're gonna think, oh wait, those

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<v Speaker 1>favorites can't make your money. But if you can recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that some of these favorites versus the relative strength of

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<v Speaker 1>the record of the league are not as good as

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be. You know that that's in an effect,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the opposite. You have to use your I understand

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you mean by that, right, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>take the favorites. But I'm saying you really fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to recalibrate value. Right, you have to recalibrate

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<v Speaker 1>with saying it recalibrate. Thank you, don thank you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm here, That's why you're here, Rather to be

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<v Speaker 1>my hype man, flavor, my flavor flavor. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going out there and you're being cerebral, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we want. We don't want physical we want some cerebral

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<v Speaker 1>Dodd on football, I loved I was lost yesterday. So

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<v Speaker 1>here the least, the least profitable, the teams that have

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<v Speaker 1>hemorrhaged you the most money. Now, this is a bizarro exercise, right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going out and you're betting the Tigers every

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<v Speaker 1>night's light unseen, I would suggest to you you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>doing this wrong. Um, but the Tigers. If you bet

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<v Speaker 1>the Tigers every single day of the baseball season, again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the flip of the Ygges and the Dodgers, right,

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<v Speaker 1>their plus money and big plus money by and large

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<v Speaker 1>when Matthew Boyd's not pitching. Exception to the rule, the

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<v Speaker 1>Tigers are thirty and eighty one. If you bet them

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<v Speaker 1>every night, you're down thirty three units. See. Now here's

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<v Speaker 1>something that I would love to see when they do

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<v Speaker 1>these these you know charts. What about if you bet

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<v Speaker 1>against the Tigers every night, so you wouldn't be up.

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<v Speaker 1>You would be up like thirty seven minus the viig

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<v Speaker 1>correct the other way, but I think you'd still be up.

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<v Speaker 1>But that would be an interesting point as well. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a good point. So it's just if no one's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bet the Tigers every night, unless you're like some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of crazy, die hard Tiger fan. But what would be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting is how I guess we could figure out because that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would represent the bookies take right, that's the strattle.

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<v Speaker 1>So we went back the other way, twenty cents the

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<v Speaker 1>other way exactly on every would it be every loss

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<v Speaker 1>or everyone. I'm just trying to think about that now

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a radio audience. Now you're just here getting

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<v Speaker 1>too much, so we're getting too mathematical. No, but I

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<v Speaker 1>understand your your point is a good one, right by

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<v Speaker 1>the way. So, the second most hemorrhaging team for betters

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball this year is the defending World Series champion

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox. And this is a team that obviously off

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<v Speaker 1>a championship, comes in with high expectations, so there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of minus money on them, particularly early

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<v Speaker 1>in the season, and that cost betters a pretty penny.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be down twenty six units betting the World's Are's

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<v Speaker 1>Chance blindly all year long as a favorite as a

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<v Speaker 1>dog every single game. Royals, Mariners, Pod Rays, no Surprise,

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<v Speaker 1>three four five. But the Red Sox are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, one thing is not like the other.

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<v Speaker 1>They're They're the team that stands out. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>most years you have one or two or three teams

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<v Speaker 1>that are at the bottom because the expectations or that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the money the lines getting dealt on them

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis is just not commensurate with their performance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Red Sox to get the Booby Prize on

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<v Speaker 1>that this year. By the way, I just did the

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<v Speaker 1>math in my head. Now I might be doing it wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you'd still be up if you bet

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<v Speaker 1>against the Tigers every game. Somewhere in the neighbor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's something somewhere could be wrong. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the point right there. You'd be down thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three if you bet on them, but if you had

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<v Speaker 1>bet against them, you wouldn't be up thirty three about

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<v Speaker 1>still very nicely in thirty And as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox, well, that's an obvious you know, this reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of the Cubs a couple of years ago after

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<v Speaker 1>they won the World Series. That came out and we're

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<v Speaker 1>played five hundred the first half of the year, and

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<v Speaker 1>had you just bet against the Cubs every game, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>have been a bazillion dollars. So this is your Red Sox,

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<v Speaker 1>uh World Series hangover their sixty three and fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet, especially at home, look at those home numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure tons of that represents all those sale losses

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<v Speaker 1>at minus that's minus three. He's probably a huge portion

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<v Speaker 1>of it. On the road they're only down three, so

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<v Speaker 1>a huge amount of Let's do we have the split

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<v Speaker 1>numbers before we get the splitt in the splits right there,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, But do we have a separate chart of

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<v Speaker 1>the splitter? We don't like the home the top home

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<v Speaker 1>and top yeah, yeah, we have Okay, well before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to that, just one last thing on they have

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<v Speaker 1>the Padres. Look at the Padres away. You would have

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<v Speaker 1>made one United States dollar playing the Padres on road

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<v Speaker 1>based on these numbers. Anyway, with all of this, the

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<v Speaker 1>point of this exercises Okay, that's what's happened the first

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<v Speaker 1>three quarters of the season. Now the endeavor here is

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<v Speaker 1>to now figure out going into the final court of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Is this just a fun thing to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in a narrative or is there any predictive value

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<v Speaker 1>to this? And I would suggest on some of these

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<v Speaker 1>things there will be predictive value. On other things, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of talking about it because it's fun to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, right, But there is some intuitive sense to

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that moving forward we'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>more that blok to the home road splits just is

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<v Speaker 1>uh really one other point? Yes, the Mariners, if I

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<v Speaker 1>remember correctly, might have been twelve and three to start

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<v Speaker 1>the year and two much so if you take those out,

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<v Speaker 1>they're tiger like. They are tiger like, no question, they're

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<v Speaker 1>tiger like. All right, So now this is again just

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do the home teams. The subset of what We

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<v Speaker 1>just found out the Dodgers, who were second overall. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the number one home team for Baseball bettors this year,

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight and sixteen at home, twenty units uh in

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<v Speaker 1>people's pockets at home, so which means, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're slightly negative on the road. If I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>mistaken the Dodgers Rangers. I wouldn't have expected the Rangers,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're they're Rangers, very profitable at home. Second most

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<v Speaker 1>profitable team at home because they're thirty five and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two at home. Astro's Yankees, Cubs and Boyd. The Cubs

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<v Speaker 1>have a stark home road split that we keep saying

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<v Speaker 1>night after night. Cubs get fourteen k's from Kintana last

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<v Speaker 1>night and managed to lose again. They're two and three

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<v Speaker 1>on their current road trip, which has five more games

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<v Speaker 1>left in and and uh. The St. Louis Cardinals are

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna have the dough in the NL Central one back.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Cubs fifth most profitable home team. Least profitable

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<v Speaker 1>home teams, Oh what he notes the Tigers and the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox at the bottom. There what is perhaps the

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<v Speaker 1>usual suspects. If I could say that, let's just go

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<v Speaker 1>real quick to ther way teams here this is just overall.

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<v Speaker 1>These are widely available. Again, these are courtesy of covers.

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<v Speaker 1>Most profitable road teams, the San Francisco Giants, Los Gantees

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<v Speaker 1>will be up for almost fourteen units for betters who

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<v Speaker 1>closely followed by the Twinkies and the Rays Braves are up.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the four teams that would have netted you

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<v Speaker 1>double digit units just betting them on the road blindly.

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<v Speaker 1>Least profitable road teams the aforementioned Chicago Cubs, worst road

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<v Speaker 1>team money wise in Baseball. The Marlins are the only

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<v Speaker 1>team worst record wise in the National League in real life,

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<v Speaker 1>but because the Marlins are always getting plus money and

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<v Speaker 1>the Cubbies are often times in minus even on the road,

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<v Speaker 1>Cubs would have hemorrhaged you fifteen units if you just

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<v Speaker 1>let bet them blindly on the road. They're twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty six on the road, and they lead a

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<v Speaker 1>division in baseball. Royals, Mets, Tigers, Astros, Tigers on all

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that really shocks me. Then, but yet

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<v Speaker 1>down eight seventy, which tells you they're always big money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they're still on the road. They're still huge money.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, last night. Very strange circumstance with game

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<v Speaker 1>two of that double header, and we talked a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about this off air. Garrett Cole was expected to

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<v Speaker 1>be the Game two starter, and he was what like

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<v Speaker 1>minus three sixty something like that. Some some people are

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<v Speaker 1>saying three, maybe three, It depends where you were shopping.

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<v Speaker 1>But really there was a pitching change really late, like

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<v Speaker 1>really late. It wasn't like people had had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to really adjust to it. Yeah, so the line didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a didn't move that much off it. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>they they move it automatically. Thought it was very strange

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<v Speaker 1>because who was Davinski Nsky was went off three sixty

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that can't be right. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember a circumstances like that that was so close to

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<v Speaker 1>game time. And then I didn't even I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>realize that that was the line going into a Devinsky

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<v Speaker 1>until someone like someone mentioned it later. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't notice it either until it was like in

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<v Speaker 1>the third inning and I looked up. I said Devinsky

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<v Speaker 1>minus three sixty. Usually they air move it when there's

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<v Speaker 1>when there's a pitching It's not like anybody moves it

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<v Speaker 1>with the with the money very They just quickly air

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<v Speaker 1>move it, and I would think they would at least

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<v Speaker 1>move it down like to exactly paying attention at that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, they lose the game, and of course they

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<v Speaker 1>lose the second game. Right it's right four to one

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<v Speaker 1>to the White Sox. Um they had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>their their hitters out in the second game. We'll come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do the best and worst run line teams for

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<v Speaker 1>better than all of baseball. Then we'll talk first five intings.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk up well and we'll get the first five. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk umpires, will talk starting pitchers. We'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>all the Q three MLB derivative show. Todd Wishnev is

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<v Speaker 1>here as well as Jeff Parlay, Gill Alexander right on

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<v Speaker 1>a numbers game at Vicent. Welcome back to a numbers

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<v Speaker 1>game with Jill Alexander, produce the number five. Jeff Parls

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<v Speaker 1>tells me that we got Charles Barkley back in the

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<v Speaker 1>intro of the show. Is that true? I stepped on him.

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<v Speaker 1>We we all stepped on him. We didn't realize where

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<v Speaker 1>Barkley was in the intro, so I gotta let him breathe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a big Twitter discussion the last It's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>how how much the folks love Chuck. Do we have

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<v Speaker 1>Barkley on the fade out or something? All Right, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta lit a breathe. Well here, next time we get

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<v Speaker 1>tweets beating the book, I love you all for tweeting us.

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<v Speaker 1>Um Okay, more Baseball best worst run line teams in

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<v Speaker 1>all baseball gain bizarrow exercise when you're betting these teams

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<v Speaker 1>on the run line each and every single game of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, which no one is actually doing, but it

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<v Speaker 1>gives a sense of which teams have been profitable, at

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<v Speaker 1>least profitable for betters. Remember run line. When your favorite,

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<v Speaker 1>you're giving a run and a half. When you're a dog,

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<v Speaker 1>you are getting a run and a half. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of one run out comes will affect these numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to call it todd a de facto power ranking,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you win, you win big. When you lose,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you keep it closer. Oftentimes, if you're on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the most profitable list most profitable run line teams

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball, excuse me, the New York Yankees. No surprise there,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd have you up thirty one units plus. Again, these

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<v Speaker 1>courtesy of covers dot Com. The Rangers and A's Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 1>and Indians wrap up the top five run line teams

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball for betters. Now, it's a big drop from

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees to the Rangers, right, it's eighteen units. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the Yankees are far in a way the best run

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<v Speaker 1>line team in baseball this year because when they win,

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<v Speaker 1>they crush you. Probably I'm sorry, no, no, but that was.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Rangers, as diamond Backs and Indians probably surprise

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. Diamond Backs certainly. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Yankees kind of makes sense because of course they and

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<v Speaker 1>then they have the decent relief so they don't let

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<v Speaker 1>you back for a one run win when they should

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<v Speaker 1>have won by two or three. And then, um, the

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Rangers kind of makes sense to me because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really ever see the Rangers win a close game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because they have a terrible bullpen. They either

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<v Speaker 1>just we're killing the ball and winning or just losing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and now they don't even hit. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying earlier in the year, but if the Rangers are

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight and fifty one and run line games, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>that suggest that they're losing a lot of one run games.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably well, they would imagine, and he goes to Todd's point,

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<v Speaker 1>you could see them have leads in the bullpen. Blue

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<v Speaker 1>it a lot earlier in the year for Texas, they

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<v Speaker 1>lost a bunch of one run games when they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting the run and a half. I am, I am

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<v Speaker 1>efforting as we speak the Rangers one run record just

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<v Speaker 1>to see if it, uh, if it makes sense, and

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<v Speaker 1>they know they're nineteen and nineteen in one run game,

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<v Speaker 1>so that is a very curious record. Now on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the least profitable, this is saying if on the

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<v Speaker 1>run line, if you're minus one and a half or

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<v Speaker 1>both both is kind of confusing. A little bit is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, yes, because you don't know how should

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<v Speaker 1>be two sets of stets minus one and half in

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<v Speaker 1>plus one and a half minus one. I've always said that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right about that. But for the purposes

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<v Speaker 1>of day, Tigers once again the least of the least, right,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven units down on the run line, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just bad. Red Sox once again second worst on

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<v Speaker 1>the run line. Rocky Zose and Pirates wrapping up that list,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rockies make sense right because they play at corps

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<v Speaker 1>and so you are more likely to lose games by

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<v Speaker 1>more than a run. And the other thing is the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Tigers are probably plus a run and a half

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<v Speaker 1>out of those a hundred and sixteen games. I bet

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<v Speaker 1>you the run and a half a hundred times. So

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like you don't like that one. I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I understand what you're saying. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Parley, you had a point about the Astros to

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<v Speaker 1>Todd who was saying before well, and also I would

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<v Speaker 1>imagine it impacted that list too, because the Astros were

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<v Speaker 1>minus to seventy or whatever the heck they were on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday when they lost on the run line. Also, but

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<v Speaker 1>they lost yesterday minus three sixty. They lost almost minus

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars on Sunday. So there's basically there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>over eight units right there. So the road road money

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<v Speaker 1>record is what it is. Yeah, the road money line.

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<v Speaker 1>They lost eight units two in the last three games, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's incredible. Um, but surprize of you don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>the r J special. We caught the r J special

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<v Speaker 1>out in the sports book. RJ likes to lay the

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<v Speaker 1>j Alman's guy. He lays the two and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes in the ridiculous lines, and so we call it

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<v Speaker 1>the r J Special? Did you don't have the two?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you want to share with people with? R J

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<v Speaker 1>says about some of the employees. This is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the one particular employer at this I know you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to share that. I think that should be left unset.

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<v Speaker 1>He really is a fan. He's a fan of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a good, great guy. He is a great guy. Um, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go to now. This is for let is to

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures real quick starting pitchers, most least profitable starting pitchers.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is I don't know how you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>this again, Todd, but this is when this particular picture

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<v Speaker 1>or pictures takes the hill. This is how his team

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately performs with a win loss record and then the

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<v Speaker 1>associated profit or loss. This is interesting. Well, it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes it doesn't have anything to do with the starter, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They can have a marginal performance, but the team just

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<v Speaker 1>happens to come through for them, or or the opo

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Do we have these at all, Jeff? And

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<v Speaker 1>all with the starting pitchers, I'll read them off here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>give me the most profitable starting pitcher. So I'll read

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<v Speaker 1>them off here. Domingo Herman is number one. You're getting

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<v Speaker 1>your plus a little over to a little over twelve

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<v Speaker 1>units on Herman Andrew kash near her. Let's let's clarify

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<v Speaker 1>why Herman. The Yankees are seventeen and three in games

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<v Speaker 1>that her mom takes the hill. Yeah. Wow, he just

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<v Speaker 1>shows up and they win baseball games because Talman crew

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<v Speaker 1>go crazy. You know. I think there's something to that, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've seen, you know, I noticed this on uh,

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<v Speaker 1>really good teams when they lose. Sometimes it's when they're

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<v Speaker 1>big starters in or something, and then I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any data to back this up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Towers would say it's a random okay, but but

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<v Speaker 1>but to your but to your point, it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>that that certain teams, like the good teams know when

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<v Speaker 1>they have a guy on the mound that they have

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<v Speaker 1>to pull around, pull across for them, and they hit better.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's true again, and probably is

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<v Speaker 1>just totally random. One of those random Orioles Cy Young

0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.240
<v Speaker 1>winners in the eighties. I don't know if it's Gotti

0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.440
<v Speaker 1>McGregor or Steve Stone, someone would have to check on this, Jim.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, but like the Orioles would never lose when

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<v Speaker 1>they were on the hill, like they were flann again.

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<v Speaker 1>One of these guys would just have a ridiculous and

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>it was you know, in those days we were into

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<v Speaker 1>analytics as much. Right, so it's like, oh, okay, he

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<v Speaker 1>never loses this when lost, record is unbelievable. But like

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<v Speaker 1>they would just show up for him every time, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some some alb al bumbery with the gloves sticking out

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<v Speaker 1>the bash. Oh Gary Reddicky we interrupted, Jeff Parls. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's Domingo Herman. Here they are on the screen, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>did you catch that? Andrew Kashner had his first career

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<v Speaker 1>saved last night. Andrew Kashner the new Red Sox closer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying right now. By the way, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff and I were watching at the same time. We

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<v Speaker 1>were on the phone, and he looked fun. He looked great. Yeah, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Kashner's number two. So these are again the most profitable

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<v Speaker 1>starters in all baseball this year if you bet that

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<v Speaker 1>team blindly when they started a game. So the Red

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<v Speaker 1>Sox are eleven and six when oh yeah, the Orioles

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<v Speaker 1>and the Red Sox. Remember he had with the Orioles,

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<v Speaker 1>he was in plus money so much time that the

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<v Speaker 1>that the r o I was huge. But the teams

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<v Speaker 1>that he has pitched for, Orioles and Red Sox eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and six, when he's taken the hill, Brandon Woodruff sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>in four, well he makes that makes a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>sense because if you think about it, the guys that

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<v Speaker 1>don't come in with big uh you know that come

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<v Speaker 1>into the season with big reputations, aren't going to have

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<v Speaker 1>big numbers. So if they have big, big years, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have giant r o I. Because because of that

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense. Brandon Woodruff of the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with Ryu Riyu. Wasn't exactly considered the best starter

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball? Was he? He wasn't considered the best starter

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>or the second best on his own team. Point taken

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Wade Miley, my favorite guy. Wait for those listening on

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<v Speaker 1>on radio, Todd, let's explain what's going on here. This

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>is not a television broadcasting. Sup I thought they could

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<v Speaker 1>see the Brandon wood Ruff again. Brewer sixteen and four.

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<v Speaker 1>When he takes the hill, they're up almost eleven units,

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<v Speaker 1>betting them blindly. Hungen Ryu fourth place, seventeen and five,

0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers seventeen and five in games that new she started

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<v Speaker 1>up almost ten units. Wade Miley is, as TADJS pointed out,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen and seven, the Astros seventeen and seven with Miley

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<v Speaker 1>on the hill. So and look at that. It's interesting

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 1>because he's there nine six and they're ten games over five,

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.159
<v Speaker 1>So he probably hasn't been that big a favorite. Wade Miley.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And then the least uh in r o I.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of the pitchers, the ones that have hemorred

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<v Speaker 1>you the most money, no surprise looked. This list is

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<v Speaker 1>always riddled with big names because big names have big juice,

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<v Speaker 1>and when they have a season that is not stellar,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what happens very quickly. Chris Sale your least profitable,

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<v Speaker 1>your biggest hemorrhager of money um in all of baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>As a starter, because the socks are nine and fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>in games in which he started that it costs you

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<v Speaker 1>twenty units. So if all you did was bet, Chris

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.479
<v Speaker 1>Sale starts your twenty units down, and then a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them were at home where he was even bigger

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<v Speaker 1>juice that's all right, Jacob deGrom. The Mets are nine

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 1>in fifteen when he takes the hill. Just they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been as big favorites overall as Sale has been with

0:25:58.040 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 1>the Red Sox, so he would have cost you a

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<v Speaker 1>fifth team plus units, not twenty plus like Sale. Max

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<v Speaker 1>Scherzer third in terms of the hemorrhage list over ten

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<v Speaker 1>units for betters this year, because the Nats are nine

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<v Speaker 1>and the eleven, and then you've got Tyler Molly and

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>uh Aaron Sanchez, Aaron Sanche Well, Aaron Sanchez one of

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the most underachieving pictures by advanced stats thus far this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll come back, we'll do umpires, and then we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>are are on a we all, let me say that again.

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<v Speaker 1>We all are on a chart there with all of

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<v Speaker 1>com slash bet football. This is some umpires real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh this year umpires the most reliable over umpires, the

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<v Speaker 1>most reliable under umpires. This for pre early, for totals better,

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 1>but also for side betters. And again you can get

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>umpire assignments at sites like stat Fox, that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you know as early as anywhere, you guess

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Porter is a very big over before. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you guess Todd WISHNEP number four? Look, I didn't even

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>look at that. The reason I knew is because Antoine,

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy who sits in the fist pound. That's a

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.240
<v Speaker 1>nice one, right there. Can we reach out there with

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>us in my living room here at the South point

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<v Speaker 1>Um Sports Book, we always talk about Alan Porter being

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<v Speaker 1>a super over and that's how I knew that name.

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<v Speaker 1>So Alan Porter, what you're saying is Alan Porter's strike

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>zone is is the size of a thimble. Yeah, he's

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>not giving you any edge strikes, so you better Yeah,

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, you better have some major movement on your pitches,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. But if these names come up now, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have borchered on the show to sort of compare

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<v Speaker 1>with historical analysis. He was unable to make it this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>But your best over umpires this year anywhere? Anyway? Tom

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Woodring six out of seven games that he's been behind

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>right there place. Why does that guy only have seven

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>behind the home But it's just how assignments when the

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>other guys have like nineteen, that's just how they're used

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and their their assignments. Nobody explain that to me if

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>they're I don't know the umpires, how they work their schedule,

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 1>A very simple todd Some guys shift between Triple A

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<v Speaker 1>and the major leagues, just like players. Yes, so top

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>wood Ring is a guy who didn't know there was

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<v Speaker 1>of vampires. Yeah, there are guys who will get more

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<v Speaker 1>assignments and then some people get more home plate assign exactly,

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>But did you know they pull up umpires from Triple

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>actually did? Well? Look at you guys, Okay, I learned

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<v Speaker 1>something today. Anyway, Continuing, Top would Ring six of seven

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>behind home plate. I've gone over Jeff Kellogg ten of

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen when he's been calling balls and strikes have gone

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<v Speaker 1>over John Bacon. He's the very non posher strikes on yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we include John Bacon that was

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<v Speaker 1>that was a mats of ball, hit it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the park. Uh, three or four games. There's only four

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<v Speaker 1>games sample size, and we're not gonna read it to

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 1>John Bacon. But there's your Alan Porter fourteen and nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>have gone over when he's gonna calling balls and strikes.

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<v Speaker 1>And Alfonso Marquez sixteen of twenty two have gone over

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>when he has been behind hope late. Now these you know, again,

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>narrative or predictive. Here's the thing when we have board

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and we're able to really determine a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys consistent with their careers, uh, in terms of of

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<v Speaker 1>going over under. Here the most reliable under guys Nick

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Marley six of eight behind home plate unders, Kirwin Danley

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>twelve of sixteen under, Joe West sixteen twenty three under,

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:33.479
<v Speaker 1>Andy Fletcher thirteen of nineteen under, and Jansen Visconti fifteen

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>of twenty two have gone under when he has called balls.

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<v Speaker 1>These are guys that just want to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>the buffet. If you, if you, if you watch baseball

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 1>like I do, yeah, a lot, you will notice that

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<v Speaker 1>there are guys that call strikes six to seven inches

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 1>off the plate, and you know they're just thinking, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get back to the buffet and back to the hotel.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>So let me give you a case in point of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You see the ninth inning of the Cubs game last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody who's watching this is nodding right now and going,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. Um. I want to say it was

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<v Speaker 1>one man on and nobody out, but don't hold any

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>of that. The Cubs were down two to the Reds.

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<v Speaker 1>They ended up losing by two to the Reds right

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<v Speaker 1>up the Phillies. I'm sorry. Yeah, they play the Reds

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>before them, So they ended up losing by two, four

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<v Speaker 1>to two. They were down four to two in the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth and was it Tony Kemp that was up? And

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<v Speaker 1>it was a three to pitch which was not only high,

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<v Speaker 1>but was super outside Kemp, Like Kemp would have had

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<v Speaker 1>to look like a little leaguer if to make contact

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<v Speaker 1>with it, Like we just had to like wildly swing

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<v Speaker 1>at it. Strike three. Called talk about wanting to just

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<v Speaker 1>get out of there. It's unbelievable. I mean, I'm I'm joking,

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not really joking. We talked about with the Dodgers,

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Padres game a couple of weeks ago, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>on the dodge, like I could have completely changed the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Um just like it called strikes that were just way

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<v Speaker 1>out of the strikes and you're like, come on, we

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>need some sort of robotics here for this. It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other one is where there they stand

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<v Speaker 1>like all the way to one side of the catcher,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the catcher puts his glove over on that

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<v Speaker 1>side and then he reaches across while it's still fully

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<v Speaker 1>in the strike zone and it's you could see it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the box because a lot of these games have

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<v Speaker 1>the box and will bisect the box. It's so down,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not down the middle, but it's on it's in clearly,

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not even on the edge, and they miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>And because it's so far on the other side, and

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<v Speaker 1>not only do you miss it, do you wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, I'm not going to give him credit

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>for that because the target wasn't there too. Oh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many of those things in baseball, and this this

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<v Speaker 1>reminds when I was reading an article yesterday UM online

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. They had some article where they rated the

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<v Speaker 1>home broadcasting guys from each team, and you know, like,

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and I hear a lot of them because I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>retard out there or I'm the mentally challenged person out there,

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>whose second whose second best to Kype? And uh, they

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>were way up there there, they were way up And

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<v Speaker 1>I get the box. So I listened to all the

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<v Speaker 1>different games that I want to hear, And of course

0:32:58.320 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought the Mets would be way up there because

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<v Speaker 1>I of Keith her nandez Ron Darling and Gary Cohne.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they were like in the top three or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But I knew right off off the bat if this

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be a good ratings, the Pirates would be

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<v Speaker 1>way down because I can't even listen to the Pirates

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it's so bored interesting. Nine they were twenty nine. The

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Tigers guys gotten a scuffle last year. Two they fought

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>each other, I mean the new one with with with

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>with Kirk Gibson sounding like he's high on pot um

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>is not you have you ever heard Kirk Gibson, by

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 1>the way, a game, it's us of Todd Wishing's not

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<v Speaker 1>representative of numbers game. He's like, and uh, it's like

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>real real, Are you sure that it's just disinteresting product.

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that's a that's a good point as Michigan

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>do they have recreational weed yet? Well, well we'll google that. Yes, yes,

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>we'll google that. We'll come back, we'll resume with the

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<v Speaker 1>first five and the first dating is on the Derivative Show,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get to today's slate. We'll do it all

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<v Speaker 1>on a numbers game right here at Visa. Welcome back

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to Numbers Game with Jill Alexander. We left that a

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>conversation hanging about the that list of the best local

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>announced baseball this radio or television television, Yeah TV, And

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I guessed correctly that San Francisco gizs Dwayne Kuiper and

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Mike Cruco, who are just an institution? There are top five?

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>You said, Um, who were some of the others in

0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>the top five? San Diego interesting? The Mets. Um, the

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Yankees were not? Huh, Yankees were not? It was San Diego,

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the Mets, Oakland A's oh what Glenn Kuiper and Ray

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Fasse and um, Dallas Braden right, is any part of it?

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>He's also he might be part of But I and

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I also guest off air, I guessed dead last, and

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel bad that I guessed it because I don't

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 1>think they should be dead last, but I I knew

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>that they would be somewhere, and that's the Nationals with

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<v Speaker 1>f p F S GIL. I have the actual list

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<v Speaker 1>in front of me. Todd was slightly off on the

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>actual list a little bit, but not terribly. Nats were last.

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 1>That's got a got a hardy one point five is

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to make the point of I knew the Pirates were

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>going to be terrible and they came into Well, the

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Pirates do this weird thing where they rotate five guys

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 1>between radio and television, so there's never consistency, so they

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 1>don't announced the game. It's just like they're dead air.

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>If the can I just say, Pearls knows his announcing team.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Parls, we're talking off air. Parls can

0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:31.720
<v Speaker 1>give you like inside like the third string and answer

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>on this. It's amazing. Shout out five of six sports

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Gary Thorne and uh in Baltimore? Is he in top five?

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm pulling it up. Number one. I was surprised at

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>the and their and their good crew or still in

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>company in San Diego were number one, which I was

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.239
<v Speaker 1>surprised that they're very good. By the way. Apparently Jim

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.319
<v Speaker 1>Cott is doing twins games now, which I did not

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 1>realize the Yankee games for a while. Number one is

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>uh number one San Diego, number two, San Francisco, number three,

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the Mets, number four, Erry Thorne and Company in Baltimore.

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Number five was the Dodgers. The Dodgers were number The

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers were five, the Angels are six. I was surprised

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't mentioned because here at the South Point, you

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>were not mentioned. Yeah, I'll tell you why you do

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>games here. I do when I have a team and

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 1>one of my guys is about to go yard, you know,

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's way back picks everybody Tennis picks in

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>people you get to I want to tell you what

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the guys, this guy digs out there, he goes,

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, Todd, I couldn't watch a single baseball game,

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:32.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I was just by myself, he goes,

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I come here and I watched him with you. You

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>make it exciting, really people. Sure there's also people annoyed

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>as well, So people who want the wish and have

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 1>play by play. You come to the South Point, you

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 1>get I'm sure there's half people annoyed half people enjoying

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you might want to probably enjoying one's maybe not. Uh,

0:36:53.200 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm sure something coming back more derivatives. Welcome back

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 1>to a numbers game with kill Alexander, We get sex,

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>we get tweets. Chris Felika, friend of show, friend of network,

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>was piling on when we're going through all those old

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Orioles in the eighties, he goes, Dim Stoddard, Yes, that's

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:18.399
<v Speaker 1>another great one. Uh. And then my buddy E who

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>knows of such things, he points out, I think there's

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>a great point about the baseball announcers and that the

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>San Diego Padres broadcast team ended up number one on

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the favorites list. Uh. He points out Mark Grant and

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Don Rcillo, he said, are awesome, and they gotta be

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 1>because the team sucks so bad. Same with the Baltimore Orials.

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, think about all the space you've got to

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>fill when your team, especially when your team is awful.

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's also the case for years when the Mets

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:48.280
<v Speaker 1>weren't good. That's why that crew also is highly rated,

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>able to fill space. Well, they're so good, Keith Hernandez

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>and Ron Darling, and they're just so good. And Gary Cohen.

0:37:56.280 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>They're really really I actually like listening to them, you know,

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>just regular here at MLB teams will will resume the

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Q three derivatives here. So now we're talking first five innings.

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>So again, what if this is just narrative? What if

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>this is predictive? What can we actually use here to

0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>help ourselves make bets moving forward? First five innings? Major

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>League Baseball? Now, from team rankings, are friends over there,

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Tom Federico and company. Over their team rankings, they called

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<v Speaker 1>together the first five innings runs per game. So, just

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>from just a raw data standpoint, what's the team that

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>plates the most runs in the first five innings? Pictures

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>that they face, aside, lineups, aside, what's the club? What

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>are the clubs that played the most runs in the

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>first five innings? Minnesota Twins three point five one runs

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>per first five innings. They are the most prolific offensive

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>team just on that average runs plated in the first

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>five No surprise the Yankees or second, No surprises, Red

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Sox Astros, Maybe the Diamondbacks are a little bit of

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 1>a surprise, but those are your top five largely, no

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:59.359
<v Speaker 1>surprises there, Twinkies, obviously, with all those home runs this year,

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>trying to get the three d home runs for God's sakes,

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>not a surprise. Now the lowest is interesting to me

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>because I always say this, this is so representative of

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>folks who you know, you make a first five inning

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>bet on these teams, and it's the experience. It's not

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 1>only that you've got your money tied up, it's the

0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:17.880
<v Speaker 1>experience of having to live through these teams in the

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>first five. They are so anemic offensively that you know,

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's just torture watching these teams. And the Miami

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Marlins this, I mean, this is a great, uh sort

0:39:27.600 --> 0:39:29.839
<v Speaker 1>of poop poo platter of the worst teams. And these

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 1>are these largely why these teams are just not among

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 1>baseball's elite. To be kind, Miami Marlins, they played less

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>than two runs, fewer than two runs per first five

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 1>one point nine three. You're betting on the Marlins, You're

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>living through that. That's not fun. Giants not much better,

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Tigers not much better two point one one, two point one.

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 1>That is the the five hundred magical team of the decade.

0:39:56.800 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco Giants three World Series titles. By the way,

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>is it an even here? But are these stats from

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>this year or from this is this year, this is

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>just this year. That's the first five runs per game.

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Follow along. I was making a joke because you're sorry, Giant,

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, it's right, I get it. Sorry. Chicago White

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Ox fourth worst. Now the Cardinals. You've made this point before.

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.720
<v Speaker 1>The Cardinals, who right now are ensconced as the number

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 1>two wild card team in the National League. And they

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and they only score two point Todd's expert analysis right there?

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Could you read that they can't hit the ball two

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:34.880
<v Speaker 1>point and here it is corroborated by the numbers by

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the day to two point three one runs per first

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>five and yet they're in the playoffs if it starts today,

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. And by the way, and by the way,

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>there one game behind the Cubs in the NL Central

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.720
<v Speaker 1>one because it's a stinker division. It is a stinker division.

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:55.399
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Cubs are no good, um pretty good, Todd.

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Since they stink. That seems to be a prerequisite for

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals winning a World Series, is that in the

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:02.919
<v Speaker 1>middle of August the team stinks. Look at oh six

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and two thousand eleven. I don't think this team is

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>winning the World Series. I have an off the grid.

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Mattawa Mono bet with my buddy, who's the greatest sports

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.719
<v Speaker 1>better of all my friends and everybody anybody I know,

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 1>And we get in these sports arguments and we always

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 1>settle it by just making a bet. And we ever

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>talked about like that that that ends the art, you know,

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, okay, well, if you feel so strongly

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>about it, smart man, let's make a bet. So we

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>have a bet Cubs to make the playoffs, Cubs to

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>not make the playoffs, and you're on the not make

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. I got him at plus two hundred, to

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>which he responded, well, I got a great line because

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the draft Kings number is the Cubs to make the playoffs,

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and like minus five seventy six. I'm like, well, if

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you think that line is any good, you're ridiculous, right.

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 1>So we have that going the rest of the year.

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.279
<v Speaker 1>So we're very involved in how the Cubs do on

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>a night tonight basis. By the way, what was interesting

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>about that. I don't mean to us the story, but

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 1>when you were talking about the first five I'm sure

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 1>there's some math people out there who can tell us

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:59.040
<v Speaker 1>are runs evenly distributed in all innings? Now I don't

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>have never done the data this, but I can just

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you from watching all the games, the fifth inning

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 1>seems to have a lot of runs. There's no way

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>there's equal distribution. I would love if somebody could like

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 1>twitter out what the what the distribution of runs per

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>inning is in a regular ball game. I'm going to

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>guess at the fifth inning is a big runs inning.

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.359
<v Speaker 1>You can twitter it out or you can tweet it out,

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 1>whichever you want to do. I call it twittering because

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>tweeting what is what is what does Jimmy Vicar call it?

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.560
<v Speaker 1>What does he call it twexting or something? He has

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 1>some he made up word by the way, yet to

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>see Jimmy says he's been back. Well, you just have

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you're you're just not here at the right time. That's

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>all it is. I know. So Now, opponents, if you're curious, opponents,

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>what do team's opponents played per first five runs? Because

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>you want to see the defensive side as well. The

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers are the best at muting runs in the first

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>five innings. They're they're the best at run prevention first

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>five inninges Dodgers. Basically, they're starting pitching staff turns every

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 1>opponent into the Miami Marlins first five. That's really good.

0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>They only give up one point nine runs per first five.

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>The Rays, Reds, Gnats, and Astros. And there's no surprises there, right,

0:43:03.920 --> 0:43:05.759
<v Speaker 1>because well, the Rays might be to some people because

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the Rays use an opener a lot. So the Rays

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:11.759
<v Speaker 1>give them credit, right, give them credit for how they

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>manipulate their starting staff. The opener strategy works for them.

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:20.400
<v Speaker 1>And there's the nu miracle representation of that with the Dodgers, Reds, Nationals,

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>and Astros. Very intuitive because you're like, oh, yeah, those

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.560
<v Speaker 1>are the embarrassment of riches starting staffs. All those teams,

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>including the Reds who have now recently acquired Trevor Bauer,

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 1>but they've got Luis Castillo Sonny Gray as well. But

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the Gnats with Strasburg and Scherzer and Corbin, the Astros

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>with good Lord everybody right, Verlander, cole on down the

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>line cranky now. And then there's the Dodgers, who, again

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.359
<v Speaker 1>we said Hanenru might be the best picture on their

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 1>team this year. But would you take them even, you know,

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>second in a playoff rotation? I don't know that you

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 1>would with that team with Walker Bueler and Clayton kershel

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>on the same staff, by the way, most allowed first five,

0:43:56.960 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the Orioles on the Orioles Small network three point six too.

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>That's who they That's how much they give up first five. Mariners, Rockies,

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Rockies play at core, so that's always on a curve.

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Pirates and Rangers all of them give up more than

0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>three runs per first five, with the Orioles given up

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.840
<v Speaker 1>three point six to leading the way. Leading in quotes.

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Just think how bad the Rockies aren't hitting when they're

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.839
<v Speaker 1>not in the first on the other chart, like they

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>should be in the top five just because they get

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to play in that stupid stadium, but they're not. That

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>just shows you how bad they are on the road.

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>And you know what I mean, that's kind of interesting.

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Joe Osborne puts together the first five records for these teams,

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 1>so we've sort of buried the headline in the first

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>five because those are just the raw numbers in terms

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>of output and and input if you will, I can

0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>use that um but Joe Osbourne puts together first five.

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I usually rely on side sports, my boys over there

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.360
<v Speaker 1>on side Sports for these but they're far too busy

0:44:49.400 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>this year to be calling these stats together. So Joe

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Osmoorne with the best first five records and the best

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.839
<v Speaker 1>first five and the worst first five money, So we'll

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>do money first Oakland and as the most profitable first

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 1>five teams. So basically what we did for the full

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>game at the top of the show. This is the

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:07.959
<v Speaker 1>best first five. So if you bet the A's first five,

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>blindly favorite underdog and remember their ties involved in first five,

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>but when you put it all in the mix, the

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>A's are the best first five team in baseball for betters. Yankees, Twins, Raised, Diamondbacks.

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 1>A lot of those teams showed up on the most

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 1>runs produced or or the least runs UH allowed in

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>the first five in the raw data we just talked about,

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>so as Yankees that you remember when we were talking

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>about the most profitable teams, they were up like eighteen

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred and nine, et cetera. But you know when you

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>go in the first five, you're only up nine. Is

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 1>that because ties? Well there's there's ties involved, right, But

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 1>what's another reason, Mr Man, the straddle is wider? Oh

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 1>very good, look at you looks at the big Thanks

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 1>for inviting me on your show. Least at least profitable

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 1>teams in the first five. The Orioles knows no, excuse

0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 1>me the other way around. The Toronto blue Jays, who,

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>by the way, are on fire. And I keep saying

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:03.800
<v Speaker 1>this every day. If you had the Blue Jays under you,

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 1>already counting your money not so fast. The worst team

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.399
<v Speaker 1>the first five, but they're the worst money team when

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 1>it comes to first five. The Tigers who are always

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 1>on these right, the Giants who we talked about moments ago,

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the Rockies again they play, of course, and the Orioles.

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 1>But the Blue Jays are worst first five. And that

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>is intuitive, right because name their name, their ace, right,

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 1>name their second best picture, name their pictures right. If

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you would, if you took anybody in this casino right

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>now that's out here in the south morning behind us,

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, can you name a Toronto Blue Jays

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:35.839
<v Speaker 1>starting picture? How what do you think the the hit

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>percentage on that would be? Uh of people in the

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>casino don't be way less than sports book, And the

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:46.880
<v Speaker 1>sports book wouldn't even, I promise you wouldn't be. Do

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.840
<v Speaker 1>we have the raw records of those teams? By the way, Jeff,

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I I can, I will, I will read those out

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>right now. The Dodgers have the best record in the

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.600
<v Speaker 1>first five, followed by the Atlanta Braves who show up

0:46:57.600 --> 0:47:00.160
<v Speaker 1>at number two, the Yankees at three, the twin Is

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 1>at four, and Tampa at number five. The money was

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.280
<v Speaker 1>what was interesting, and the money the money was more surprising.

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 1>This is just the bad teams. Detroit or excuse me,

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 1>the Orioles have the worst one, then Detroit, then Toronto,

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>then the San Francisco Giants actually come up at number four,

0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:22.720
<v Speaker 1>and then it is the Rockies. Yeah again, the Rockies

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>always relictive purposes. Really, what what this whole exercise tells

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:30.479
<v Speaker 1>us is I was just about to get to this. Yeah, okay,

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>so Nona, I was gonna say that if you can

0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:37.000
<v Speaker 1>pick out some teams, like every year in Major League Baseball,

0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of teams, maybe one or two teams

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>that late in the season starts playing really much better

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>than they've played the whole year. Some people say, maybe

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 1>it'll be Toronto because they started playing well. But if

0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you remember last year, Tampa Bay Rays were not a

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>good team up until about August. Then they won every

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>single game for the rest of the year, practically except

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 1>one when they were up like eight to two in

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.399
<v Speaker 1>the ninth the blue the league. So what qualifies here

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:01.920
<v Speaker 1>that what's your take away from this season's exercise on this?

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I would say you have to be looking at teams

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe like the Marlins. They kind of hang around and

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 1>they try every game. I'm not sure if it's the Marlins,

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying in the next week or two, you

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 1>might get a sense that there's teams that are playing

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:18.839
<v Speaker 1>way above what they've played the rest of the year.

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm gonna tell you what I've taken away

0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 1>from this, and we'll get to the first dating is

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that's the last thing we have to go, and then

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.399
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about today's late. But what I've taken away

0:48:25.440 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>from this year's exercise is exactly what I predicted before

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.279
<v Speaker 1>last season and what I said this season the whole

0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:34.840
<v Speaker 1>way about betting baseball. The fact that the Dodgers and

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees are the most profitable teams we already talked about,

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.360
<v Speaker 1>like with all that minus money just says everything about baseball.

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like, Wow, even when you have to lay those numbers,

0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>they're still value on them. And even think that they

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:50.560
<v Speaker 1>will continue and I think they will continue to be

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>because they're starting to jerk them up to like ridiculous.

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah there, listen there exactly. So now you have

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>to ask, okay, well will this continue in the in

0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the last four games? Well, I think they will in

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the short term, like because they're not gonna sit anybody

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:05.279
<v Speaker 1>short term yet. But think about this, if they were

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 1>average one fifty six or according to Mike Palm one

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty whatever, you guys should say, you guys should fight one.

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's say they were average one. Okay, going forward, I

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:20.839
<v Speaker 1>think if you take the next forty games, they're not

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>going to gonna be much higher, and therefore they could

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 1>be not they might not be profitable. As what you're saying,

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>we might have missed the boat. We might have missed

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:30.799
<v Speaker 1>the boat. There's no question we might have missed the boat.

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Which is why I keep saying, you know, you have

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to determine what's predictable what's not. I guess what I'm

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>saying is what what does all of that tell us

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>thus far? I don't think there's a lot of gems

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 1>this year because of that dynamic. Though to actually cull

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:45.359
<v Speaker 1>like usually with some of the years, we're like, oh

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 1>my god, Tampa Bay like I never would have thought

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that that great first five, like last year that was

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the big thing. They kept coming up as the best

0:49:50.640 --> 0:49:52.880
<v Speaker 1>first five team Q one, Q two, Q three, and

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh, this is very interesting about the Rays.

0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 1>This opener thing and by the way, I know it

0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 1>was last year they before this opener thing is very

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:01.360
<v Speaker 1>interesting and we could take like legit it predictive information

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>like this is sustainable because of what they're doing specifically.

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:06.440
<v Speaker 1>But this year, I think you're right about what you're

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.319
<v Speaker 1>saying about those teams with the big numbers. Maybe we've

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 1>missed the boat, but up until this point, that's been

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:14.279
<v Speaker 1>the story. Like baseball has been so haves and have

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:17.920
<v Speaker 1>nots that there really isn't a gem in there, you

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:20.840
<v Speaker 1>know that we can take out of there. We're like, oh,

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm just randomly select a team. Oh that's interesting.

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have expected them to be that good or

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that bad to this point. To this point, but that's

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:31.919
<v Speaker 1>the exercide, right, we gotta figure out from this data

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:33.799
<v Speaker 1>is or anything, and and I don't think there's a

0:50:33.840 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 1>lot And how how often do you see teams that

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>run away to eight and forty one? Records continue to

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:44.520
<v Speaker 1>play that well into September very often. I remember, do

0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you remember the Dodger team a couple of years ago

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>that had a run of like sixty and five or

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:50.880
<v Speaker 1>some some ridiculous number. Last year, the Dodgers had an

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:54.720
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable winnings. Yeah, massive winning stretch, and then they actually

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 1>it flipped for like two three weeks after that, they

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.279
<v Speaker 1>were they were terrible at right and I and I

0:50:59.360 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 1>remember very often the team that's way way out in

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:07.600
<v Speaker 1>front in September stops really trying and they start playing

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys and then all of a sudden.

0:51:09.680 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think it's gonna be predictive going for it.

0:51:12.280 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>It would be very interesting to see what the numbers

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>are for the last forty game. I mean, that's why

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a it's a fun exercise to go

0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:21.439
<v Speaker 1>through because it is uh. It does stimulate the brain,

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and it does require us to sort of look at

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:25.760
<v Speaker 1>baseball through a different prison and say, Okay, well that's great.

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything we can cull from it? I would

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 1>argue this year probably less than most years, and there's

0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 1>no sense in thinking that any of that will manifest

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 1>because of the dynamics of what you're saying, Like, there's

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 1>some teams like the Yankees and the Dodgers are so

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.760
<v Speaker 1>far out in front, will they start to rest players

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:44.439
<v Speaker 1>sooner than normal? Uh? They can kind of coast into

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 1>a hundred win seasons at this point, though even if

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 1>they go five hundred, they're a hundred win teams. And

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 1>here's actionable information. People are going to forget in September

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:56.280
<v Speaker 1>that there is a baseball season still going, no question,

0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>because they're gonna all be on the football all day long.

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be football wall to wall. And who

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't love football? I love football. We love football. They're

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:09.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna forget and and the lines in baseball are gonna

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:12.400
<v Speaker 1>get a little softer. I noticed this every year in September.

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:16.400
<v Speaker 1>People are not on the tip top sharp razor point

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>of their game because everyone moves over the football. And

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:21.160
<v Speaker 1>by the way for again, for the home run race,

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people like, oh, Cody Bellinger is gonna

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:24.960
<v Speaker 1>sit because therefore he's not gonna sit by the way

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:27.360
<v Speaker 1>middle relief. What did I say yesterday? Home run against

0:52:27.360 --> 0:52:31.319
<v Speaker 1>middle relief? Yesterday? Bengo bengot nine three way tie thirty nine.

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Right now, it's a sprint trout. Bellinger yell at all

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 1>at thirty nine, Alonso at thirty eight, and so Lair

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and a Kunya Jr. The sneaky freaking brothers sneaking in

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.359
<v Speaker 1>from the rear. They're like making some noise now too.

0:52:43.840 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's gotten just tons of Homer is a juice ball.

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you know that juice ball. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>it and us sometimes it's phenomenal, my buddy e. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>he says this, Todd, he's piling on me, saying, of

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<v Speaker 1>course we're on distribution is and even he says, of

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<v Speaker 1>course we're distribution is an even third inning should be

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<v Speaker 1>the least bottom of order. That's a good point. That

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<v Speaker 1>was my point. I didn't I said I know what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. I said fifth might be the most. I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure. I didn't say I know which one. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew it wasn't gonna be even. Don't get defensive. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's wrap up with the first innings here. First innings.

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<v Speaker 1>These are proprietary status. You won't hear these anywhere else. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually track what pictures are doing in the first

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<v Speaker 1>innings of games. Don't read into that, don't. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting that's how I make my first inning bets, which

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<v Speaker 1>we've become famous for on this show. But just to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know, UH, this year in Major League Baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>minimum forty five plate appearances faced. Do it through the

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<v Speaker 1>prism of on base average allowed. The worst starting pitcher

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball this year is actually Jeremy Helickson, who you

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<v Speaker 1>will not see listed anytime soon. Dylan, Uh, Dylan, what

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<v Speaker 1>are we talking about now here? These are Let let

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<v Speaker 1>me actually up this from forty five to fifty because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting some names of guys that aren't even like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in major league lineups right now are major

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<v Speaker 1>league rosters. They're all like downs for the year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the first first inning first, just for sure, those are

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<v Speaker 1>bet first innings and are interested in this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So minimum fifty plate appearances face this is better. The

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<v Speaker 1>worst in terms of opponents on base average Michael Waka

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<v Speaker 1>four oh nine opposing on base percentage first innings. Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Freeland second worst four oh seven allowed, Drew Palmerant's third

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<v Speaker 1>four oh four allowed, Jose Rainya, Aaron Brooks raw stripling,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Zimmerman, Trevor Williams ross strippling is a surprise on

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<v Speaker 1>that list. You're the best in the first inning. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the guys that they show up. Yanni Cheering knows

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<v Speaker 1>the best first inning pitcher in all of baseball as

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<v Speaker 1>far this year one seventy five on base. Think about

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<v Speaker 1>in the first inning, you're going against the best hitters

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<v Speaker 1>of the other team, yes, you all. So this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of means something A little bit it does, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just sort of, you know, a shout to again the

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay Rays for the whole opener thing. There's Janni

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<v Speaker 1>cheering os. So everything the Rays are doing, they are

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<v Speaker 1>they are smart, they're doing it for a reason. It's

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<v Speaker 1>working out. Walker Bueller next best first innings. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton Kershaw has always been on this list for years now.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dodgers replace him with Walker Bueller for first inning

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<v Speaker 1>performance only a two oh eight on bass average, A

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<v Speaker 1>loud Chris Paddock to eleven on its loud first innings

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<v Speaker 1>Frankie Mantaz, Domingo Herman, John means your boy, John means

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<v Speaker 1>of the oriole age. He's regressing fast. Kyle Gibbson, Griffin Canning,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Flaherty, Michael Pineda, Jacob Degram. Right, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a surprising list because you don't see

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<v Speaker 1>all the huge names on there. Yeah, no, that's true

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<v Speaker 1>some of them, but you know some of them are

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<v Speaker 1>like I actually cut it off right at de Gram,

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<v Speaker 1>who is eleven, but then it's right after him where

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<v Speaker 1>you see some of the big names de Gram, Velasquez,

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<v Speaker 1>let's forget him for a second, ru Verlander, Strassburg. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're just not top ten. Flaherty doesn't surprise

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<v Speaker 1>me because I think he's been having a real under

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<v Speaker 1>the radar great Him and Sonny Gray are my two

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<v Speaker 1>under the radar great. I mean people follow it, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you if you ask people out there who's

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<v Speaker 1>been really outstanding in shape but don't know about Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Flaherty would not come up in there on their list, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Flatty has been really good. He's been really good. Alright.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoyed Q three and one Dababa Ba

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<v Speaker 1>dabag Book one Dababada Papa