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Speaker 2: Now, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia mea podcast. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: Meet Eater Radio live at eleven am Mountain Time. That's

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Speaker 2: neon o'clock for our friends in Quincy, Illinois on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: May eighth, and we're live for Meat Eater Edge. Qan Bozeman.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Spencer new Art, joined today by Ryan

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Speaker 2: Callahan and Randall Williams. On today's show, we'll interview Duncan

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Speaker 2: Murdoch about the dinosaur Highway that was just discovered in England,

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Speaker 2: followed by a turkey report from the Meat Eater crew.

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Speaker 2: Then we've got one minute fishing with Seth Morris. After

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Speaker 2: that we'll do show and tell, and finally we'll interview

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Speaker 2: Alex Fogg about constructing the world's largest artificial reef. Now,

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Speaker 2: in case you don't think this is a live show,

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Speaker 2: we just got breaking news that there's a new pope

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Speaker 2: that's been elected. What's your insight on this, Randall White.

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Speaker 3: Smoke from that's all. I watched Steve watch Conclave on

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Speaker 3: a plane last week.

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Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, all right, But but we're gonna settle

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Speaker 2: an internet debate that's taken the Internet by storm. Here recently.

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Speaker 2: Every now and then, some stupid thing on the Internet

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Speaker 2: achieves exit velocity and makes it out into the real

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Speaker 2: world like it is a hot dog, a sandwich, or

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Speaker 2: the hawk to a girl. It happened again this week,

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Speaker 2: and that was can one hundred humans beat a gorilla,

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Speaker 2: a singular gorilla in a fight to the death? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I have strong feelings about this randal. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Randall has come today with a notepad that I believe

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Speaker 2: contains notes on this on this subject, I.

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Speaker 3: Do I I don't think it's a very interesting question.

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Speaker 3: I think the the numbers, the sheer numbers, and the

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Speaker 3: fatigue factor. But I'd like to just use this moment

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Speaker 3: to bolster that opinion. With my qualifications as an all

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Speaker 3: around great ape enthusiast, Phil, will you pull up Exhibit

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Speaker 3: one please? Whenever I'm at a zoo, I like to

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Speaker 3: go visit the great Apes. On the left is Grill

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Speaker 3: World at Cincinnati Zoo. On the right, I don't even

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Speaker 3: know which zoo I was at there. That was twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two, wow, and I didn't go back to check

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Speaker 3: my travel calendar. But as you can see there, it

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Speaker 3: says test your grill IQ and I did rather well

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Speaker 2: How do we know?

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Speaker 3: You just have to trust me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but so many zoos and checked out so many

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Speaker 2: apes that he doesn't even know what zoo he was at.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Phil, if you'll pull up the next slide please,

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Speaker 3: This is a bizarre image one of my favorite sort

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Speaker 3: of freak discoveries in the course of my dissertation research.

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Speaker 3: This is an ad for the Ruger forty four magnum carbing.

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Speaker 3: It's like the forty four magnum version of a ten

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Speaker 3: twenty two. And they thought the best way to demonstrate

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Speaker 3: the utility of this is with an image of a

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Speaker 3: man and a gorilla. That is, it's amazing in somewhere

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Speaker 3: in Central Africa. I had just took a picture of

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Speaker 3: it with my phone, and I've never had a chance

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Speaker 3: to display it to the world. So here it is.

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Speaker 3: We used to live in a very weird place, Phil,

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Speaker 3: Exhibit three. Here. Oh, so this is a sequence of

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Speaker 3: photos taken at the Cincinnati Zoo. That's not my child,

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Speaker 3: but just a random child, a good friend's child. No,

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Speaker 3: we're taking a photo with this friend here and suddenly

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Speaker 3: if only we've been filming video, because suddenly he charged

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're learning Randall is indeed a subject matter expert.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I've also read Gorillas in the Mist. And then

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Speaker 3: to prep for this segment, I I didn't have time

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Speaker 3: to watch the movie Congo Oh, so I downloaded it

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Speaker 3: on Kindle and I read sixty seven percent of it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I shared some of my thoughts with Phil, but it

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Speaker 3: is one of our culture's greatest meditations on the gorilla's

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Speaker 3: capacity for violence. So I didn't really get anything out

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Speaker 2: All part of answering the question on if one hundred

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just think a gorilla. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: Do you think a dozen humans?

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Speaker 3: No, you think a gorilla would win?

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Speaker 3: Figure the reach. A girl has got a wingspan of

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think what would be on our side is

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Speaker 3: And they have extremely thick skulls. Their brain case is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly do they do they.

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Speaker 2: Have exposed testicles, like, that's probably not a weak point

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just didn't think it was that interesting with questions,

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Speaker 2: Cal an the clip. Any thoughts on one hundred humans

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the movie Congo was great, probably underrated

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Speaker 3: The biggest shock to me from a revisiting the book

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Speaker 1: So I think where anybody doing battle with the Gorilla

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Speaker 1: like trained fighting sports where you're counting on somebody biting you, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's a big, big part of the.

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Speaker 3: Grilla development as a discipline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, as as this debate got heated up online,

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Speaker 2: there was a tweet that went viral by someone. Phil

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Speaker 2: is going to pull it up here. They built out

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Speaker 2: their roster of one hundred people of who they would

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Speaker 2: on that list. This tweet got sixteen million views. Fifty

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Speaker 2: in his prime Turtleman, I love Turtleman, the Undertaker, the wrestler,

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Speaker 2: of course, Nicola Jokic's brothers, Jason Momoa, a random high

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Speaker 2: in this tweet was Steve Ranella. Steve Varnella made the roster.

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Speaker 4: One ahead of Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he has the frame for it.

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Speaker 2: No, No, would you guys want Steve on your your team?

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Speaker 1: This is just an ode to Steve. It's not or ability.

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Speaker 3: Only if Steve was charged with wearing it down in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like if there was a debate at the beginning

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Speaker 1: that Steve could engage the gorilla on Yeah. Yeah, possibly

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Speaker 1: using the communication device and hands signals from the movie Congo.

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Speaker 3: It's not in the book. In the book, they're just

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Speaker 3: doing old fashioned American sign language. That's an element.

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Speaker 2: When I lived back in South Dakota, I played town

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: There was a fan who would come to every game

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Speaker 2: and if he'd see you around town, he'd maybe throw

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Speaker 2: And I always like that that. That's a very nice

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Speaker 2: he didn't care for it. He said, what do you

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Speaker 2: want to arm wrestle me or what? So, you know

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Speaker 4: Would say about that, If.

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Speaker 2: The gorilla can get Steve worked up, maybe maybe Steve

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Speaker 2: would be acceptable on this roster as number eleven in

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Speaker 2: the gorilla fighting cage manage. All right, we've determined that

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Speaker 2: one hundred humans would easily dominate that gorilla, and we

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw it off completely. Do you think how

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Speaker 4: many humans would we lose in the process?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I thought about this to a dozen? No, I

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Speaker 3: think thirty thirty.

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Speaker 2: You think he'd rip through thirty.

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Speaker 1: I think you lose thirty percent of that roster at

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Speaker 1: game time, like they just go no, No, I.

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Speaker 3: Think the initial ten minutes. I just don't. I can't

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Speaker 2: I think. It depends if the fighting happens like a

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Speaker 2: they like wait their turn. Yeah, we'll lose thirty for sure,

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Speaker 2: but we could probably suffocate this thing with like fifteen people.

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Speaker 3: The strength is just I don't think he can't.

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Speaker 2: He can't punch fifteen people at once.

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Speaker 3: I think he could. I think he.

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Speaker 1: Could just physically tear them apart.

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Speaker 3: I think he could hook us.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm just saying I don't care who you are.

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Speaker 1: Like you get in the in the cage with a gorilla.

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Speaker 1: There's a large part of that roster that's gonna be, like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, not worth it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: And Google says that their testicles and penis are quite

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Speaker 2: can't count on that, yeah advantage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's part of one of the issues with

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Speaker 2: Highway that was just discovered in England. Donkey, Welcome to

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Speaker 7: Hello, Mornie, how are you.

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Speaker 2: We're good? First thing, doc in tell us how these

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, So there's a quarry in the center of

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Speaker 2: That's wonderful now to describe how big the tracks are

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Speaker 7: So most of them are are one kind of dinosaur,

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Speaker 2: And how old are the tracks and what kind of

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Speaker 7: So this surface is from the middle part of the

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Speaker 7: We see two different shape footprints, so most of them,

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Speaker 7: two legged, carnivorous meat eating theropod dinosaur called Megalosaurus.

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Speaker 2: And does this area in England heavy history of dinosaur discovery.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely. In fact, the first dinosaur ever named Megalosaurus. The

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Speaker 7: So just over two hundred years ago, so dinosaur science

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Speaker 2: How long was the excavation process and what did that

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Speaker 7: Okay, So we first discovered these prints a couple of

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Speaker 2: Now, you said that this area was a lagoon one

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Speaker 2: How that's different from today.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a really good question. So around say one

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Speaker 7: And it's in one of these lagoon environments that these

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Speaker 2: Okay, so there were multiple dinosaurs who created this dinosaur highway.

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Speaker 2: Do you think those dinosaurs interacted or was you know,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So the conditions needed to form these prints are

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Speaker 7: So we're able to do things like reconstruct the environment

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Speaker 4: Duncan.

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Speaker 1: This is an active quarry, that's right. What's the fate

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so it's still an active quarry. They're still extracting limestone.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of the meat Eater Land Access

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Speaker 7: So there's a there's a few problems. One is if

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Speaker 7: So right now they're not accessible and they're getting recovered

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Speaker 2: Very exciting stuff. Thank you for joining us, dug In

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Speaker 1: I like to tell there was a clear convergence of

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Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, that's uh. You'd call that a pinch point.

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Speaker 2: Right here along this lagoon, we've got the shallow water ends.

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Speaker 2: Obviously dinosaurs like crossing this spot.

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Speaker 4: Wait, I was.

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Speaker 3: Sweet, all right?

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Speaker 2: Next up is the Turkey Report. Is there a sound

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Speaker 4: I don't have a sound for the I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, Bud, he's looking for the Turkey Report.

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Speaker 2: Today. We've got updates from Seth Morris, Max Barta, and

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Speaker 8: Take it away, Phil, all right, Seth Morris here, coming

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Speaker 8: at you from Region one in Montana with your weekly

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Speaker 9: It's been a tough weekend of hunting. The birds are

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Speaker 4: Kind of gotta do. You can get a bird on

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Speaker 9: I killed this one because I finally was able to

441
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Speaker 9: call the hens in and he came in with the hens,

442
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Speaker 9: but I couldn't get him to break from the hens.

443
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Speaker 9: So any way I could do it was getting the

444
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Speaker 9: hens to come in. And my wife, Kelsey, who's with

445
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Speaker 9: us too, she killed a bird yesterday morning.

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Speaker 2: So goodness.

447
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Speaker 4: That's your report. Good luck out there.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys.

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Speaker 6: Max Barter here, Central Tennessee Hunt Report. Things are weird

450
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 6: right now and it's the first week in May.

451
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Speaker 10: I feel like the birds have gone past their primetime

452
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 10: breeding cycle, and they're kind of on the downslope of things.

453
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Speaker 10: Birds are gobbling on the roost a couple of times,

454
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Speaker 10: but not much. And then yeah, I feel like once

455
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Speaker 10: they hit the ground and they're just not too keen

456
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Speaker 10: on coming into hank calls. So yeah, things are tough,

457
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Speaker 10: but I feel like if you stick it out and

458
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Speaker 10: work some ground, you'll find a bird that wants to gobble.

459
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Speaker 10: You only need one gobble and like you're in the game.

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Speaker 10: So that's what I did here. This bird came about

461
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Speaker 10: ten thirty, and yeah, it was. It was a great hunt.

462
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Speaker 10: And yeah, it's been raining the last couple of days too,

463
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Speaker 10: so I don't know if that's got the gobbling all

464
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Speaker 10: mixed up or anything like that. So yeah, beautiful day.

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Speaker 6: Happy camper, happy hunter, springs a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 11: Hey everyone, Tony Peterson here with a little turkey report.

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Speaker 11: I just got back from Kansas. Had an amazing hunt

468
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Speaker 11: down there in public Land, killed a bird, and I

469
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 11: just spent today, you know, drying out some beards, drying

470
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Speaker 11: out some tail. Fans from my daughters have killed a

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Speaker 11: few birds. I've killed a few in different states. The

472
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Speaker 11: hunting has been really good, but it has been kind

473
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Speaker 11: of a weird year, and I'm starting to see a

474
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Speaker 11: little transition right now where a lot of these birds

475
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Speaker 11: are switching to eating a lot of bugs, and the

476
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Speaker 11: hens are starting to nest. My whole drive home from Kansas,

477
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Speaker 11: all the way back here to Minnesota, there were lone

478
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Speaker 11: hens all over the place in the afternoon. And when

479
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Speaker 11: I see that, I don't know if you can hear

480
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Speaker 11: this or not, but there's a whole bunch of frogs

481
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Speaker 11: calling in my backyard pond. This is the time where

482
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Speaker 11: if you've been dealing with hend up birds, which a

483
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Speaker 11: lot of us have, should get really callable now.

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Speaker 2: Not right off the roost yet.

485
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Speaker 11: They might fly down strut for those hens for a while.

486
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Speaker 11: But those hens are gonna eat some bugs, They're gonna

487
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 11: scratch for some grain whatever, eat some fresh greenery. They're

488
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Speaker 11: gonna lay down, and these times are gonna start cruising.

489
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Speaker 11: And we always think that we're gonna hit that, you know,

490
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Speaker 11: a little bit earlier this far north. You know, down south,

491
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Speaker 11: it's a different story. But right now is the time

492
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Speaker 11: where if you have, if you have the ability to

493
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Speaker 11: hunt all day and work some setups through and fire

494
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Speaker 11: up that gobbler. Sometime in the midday or in the

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Speaker 11: in towards the evening. This is the time when it

496
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Speaker 11: matters a lot and it can get really good. So

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Speaker 11: I think it's I think they're gonna be super callable

498
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Speaker 11: from here for the next I don't know, ten days

499
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Speaker 11: or so, probably two weeks maybe, So it's a good

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Speaker 11: time to be out there.

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Speaker 3: Good luck.

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Speaker 2: Wow, three big time turkey killers there in Tony, Max

503
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Speaker 2: and Seth. We got a global show today. We got

504
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Speaker 2: dinosaur tracks from the UK, turkey reports from Middle Tennessee,

505
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: got everything.

506
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Speaker 1: I was dying to ask our dino guy if he

507
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Speaker 1: was a feather guy, to like, are they just big turkeys?

508
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: Mmm? I was I was dying to actually ask him

509
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: if the long neck dinosaurs he was referring to our

510
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: Sora pods, just to test my knowledge. But I didn't

511
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: want to sound like an idiot.

512
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: So you've always both had a chance to ask him

513
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Speaker 2: those questions.

514
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Speaker 4: I didn't think you have.

515
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: So many questions the University of Oxford. I was shaking

516
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: in my chance.

517
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Speaker 4: What's your favorite dinosaur? Oh?

518
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Speaker 2: You know what, that would have been good place they.

519
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 4: Could run fast. Sad you think a hundred velociraptors could

520
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: kill a gorilla.

521
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he use all of Timmy's bad dinosaur jokes from

522
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 3: another Michael Crichton joint, Jurassic Park.

523
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Speaker 2: Do you think I wasn't on last week's episode, but

524
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Speaker 2: I heard Phil give himself an invite to Randall's turkey hunt.

525
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: Are you aware of this? Randall?

526
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Speaker 3: Vaguely, I've tried to invite Phil to turkey hunts that

527
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: other people have invited me on.

528
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 12: Huh uh.

529
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Speaker 3: There isn't really a Randall turn turkey hunt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the thing. I wasn't inviting myself to any

531
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Speaker 4: sort of pre planned hunt. I said, you know, I

532
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 4: think it'd be fun if Randall wanted to go turkey hunting. Yeah,

533
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: that I joined it. I didn't invite myself. That was

534
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 4: a rude phrasing and I don't stand for it.

535
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Phil, you should invite yourself exactly what.

536
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 3: I just tried to invite myself on the Max's turkey

537
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 3: hunting calendar for next week. So okay, if if Max

538
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: fits me in, Phil, uh clear your calendar?

539
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 4: All right? You would? So you'll invite me to maxis yes,

540
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 4: and we won't. We just won't tell Max.

541
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Speaker 3: No, No, I'll tell Max. But he's pretty easy going.

542
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: Okay, that'd be wonderful. That sounds like a blast.

543
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: I just like the vibe of Max's video. It sort

544
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: of started out. I wasn't sure where it was going.

545
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: But these turkey guys love the reveal where they can

546
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: just twist their body a little corn change, the alter

547
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: the angle of the camera.

548
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: Tough.

549
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Speaker 1: Not a lot of guys could do it, did the

550
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: same things we go outside.

551
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: But this guy made a mistake.

552
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Speaker 3: Guy, the guy of Max's eye can pull that off

553
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: with a turkey, but not like a bull moose. I'd

554
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: like to just see how large of an animal I

555
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: can hide with my torso in a video.

556
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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, Phil did not invite himself, but that's me

557
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: telling Phil he should invite himself that way into a

558
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: turkey hunt. Rail all right, we're halfway through the show.

559
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: Let's get a break for some listener feedback.

560
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Speaker 4: Sure, let's let's start out with the big one. Jody says,

561
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: can cal expand on the late Night Amendment to sell

562
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 4: public lands in the House budget package, and.

563
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Speaker 3: In parentheses it says in under two minutes, I.

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Speaker 1: Think, okay, yeah, okay, very very quickly. Reconciliation is super

565
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: scary because there is a process a public process that

566
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: allows for the sale of small parcels of public land

567
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Speaker 1: to address all the needs that these people are saying

568
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Speaker 1: they're trying to address, such as public housing, infrastructure, restraints

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Speaker 1: on rural communities, et cetera. In reconciliation, they're trying to

570
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Speaker 1: push this through under the normal process. Sorry to back

571
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: up one second, under the normal process, which would be

572
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Speaker 1: like flippa and flip moa, lots of acronyms in the

573
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Speaker 1: government game, we can deal with giving up some parcels

574
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Speaker 1: of public land because that cash then goes towards the

575
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Speaker 1: purchase of lands of greater value for the American people.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of built on a win win system.

577
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Speaker 1: The municipality that's constrained gets a little more space for

578
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Speaker 1: water projects or housing in this case, and we the

579
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Speaker 1: American people, get a quote unquote better chunk of ground.

580
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Speaker 1: It's a square fair deal. This reconciliation BS, if I'm

581
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: being frank, is not going to ding our national debt

582
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Speaker 1: at all. There's absolutely no guidelines say this is how

583
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: it's going to address the sale of land, the staking

584
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: of our federally managed public lands with a big for

585
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: sale sign. There's no guidelines that say this is how

586
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Speaker 1: it's going to alleviate housing or provide any value for

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Speaker 1: the American people. Add some context, explain sale will go

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Speaker 1: into the treasury. The dollars from that sale will go

589
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: into the treasury. There's no public process.

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00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Spencer, explain what happened last night at midnight

591
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Speaker 2: as to why this is being brought up.

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Speaker 1: Basically, there's a very short timeline to get this budget through.

593
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend is like the goal, the stated goal

594
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: from the outset. So folks are starting to scramble, and

595
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: when you're scrambling, there's opportunities to slide in things to say, oh, yeah,

596
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: we'll totally give you what you want, but here's this

597
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: thing that you got to sign off on. And so

598
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: at eleven last night, Arizona and Utah slid in this

599
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: provision for the sale of public lands. Right now, there's

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Speaker 1: no context as to how many acres that is, but

601
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: we're hearing numbers as high as six hundred and fifty

602
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: thousand acres, which is something that you can't do under

603
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: the Flipma process. And we don't know how these lands

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00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: have been selected what they're trying to address. All we

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00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: know is this is a major opportunity for folks that

606
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: want to get this done. And by and large, the

607
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: vast majority of the American public do not agree with this.

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Speaker 1: So this is a very small group of interests being

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Speaker 1: prioritized over we the American people, and nobody should stand

610
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Speaker 1: for this. You need to get on the horns with

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Speaker 1: your senators and representatives in the House. And I've been

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00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: doing this all morning and a last night. It's not

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00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: that hard, but you need to send your emails, your

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00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: phone calls and talk to staffers and say, hey, I

615
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: do not like where this is headed.

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Speaker 2: And for more on this, we've got coverage on the

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Speaker 2: medeater dot com. We just published an article Republicans vote

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Speaker 2: to sell public land in midnight Amendment. You'll get a

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Speaker 2: fuller story there.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, we're selling things that can make us

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Speaker 1: money and when you're trying to dig yourself out of debt,

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Speaker 1: that's not what you do.

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Speaker 2: Bill. What else you got?

624
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Speaker 4: McKenna says, let's go Oklahoma City. What do you think

625
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Speaker 4: about that? Spencer?

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Speaker 2: I was just an ass whooping of epic proportions last night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That Mitchell follows up with what the Nuggets need to

629
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Speaker 4: do to make the fix from last night.

630
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Speaker 3: Ruffalos.

631
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Speaker 2: I'll be real quick. Michael Porter Junior is not good enough.

632
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 2: He's way too hurt. Jamal Murray has not been a

633
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: second fiddle lately. He's good enough to be a third fiddle,

634
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: he's not been good enough to be a second fiddle.

635
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: And we have two shallow of a bench. So a

636
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: lot of issues that can't be fixed with basketball. You

637
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: just see Nicola Jokic to go god mode.

638
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: That's in big Westbrook energy. That's right.

639
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook has been phenomenal. Good on ross.

640
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: Fun to see us anything else from Dan Pooper real

641
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: name A question for the lads. Do you guys have

642
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 4: a vintage piece of gear do you prefer or think

643
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 4: is superior to modern current? It's dB Pooper. Oh, that's good.

644
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: That is good.

645
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: When I was at the when I was at the

646
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Speaker 3: Blazers game, I don't remember the guy's initials. One of

647
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 3: the one of the rotation guys for the for the Blazers,

648
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 3: his initials are dB. And when it's score, they go

649
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: dB Hooper and they had like a sketch, you know

650
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: if dB Cooper, but it was the player's face in there.

651
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Speaker 3: I thought it was very clever.

652
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because he landed not not too far.

653
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Speaker 2: From back to mister pooper here, Cal, any vintage piece

654
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: of gear that you really really.

655
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Speaker 1: Like, knives, hatchets, axes, all those things can be multiple

656
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: lifetime pieces of year. I think everybody's got something that

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00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: they're attached to in that lineup. Also, can't beat just

658
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: cannot be a good pair of wool pants for out

659
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: outdoor activities.

660
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, knife is a good one. Dutch oven too, Oh yeah,

661
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: there you go.

662
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: Cast iron.

663
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: Got an old Dutch oven that I really love, and

664
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 2: that's the Dutch oven all on for the rest of

665
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: my life, I think, randall anything to add.

666
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: I think the closest thing I have to a vintage

667
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 3: piece of gear that easily comes to mind is just

668
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 3: an old ass grum and canoe. It's just a timeless piece. Yeah,

669
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: craigslist score. Yeah, it will serve you well.

670
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 6: Phil.

671
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: Let's do one more and then we're gonna move on.

672
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: Sure, because we got Cal in the room. Not that

673
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 4: you two are, you know? Flying Taco Mouse says he's

674
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 4: making or they're making green ear stuffed bred today. Any

675
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 4: suggestions for what dish to pair it with? Guessing wild game,

676
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 4: we're talking here whoa man sink? Yeah, that's stinky cheese.

677
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: Any any sort of any any sort of a pairing.

678
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: You'd yeah, media, I mean just medium rare cut against

679
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: the grain meat that sounds delicious.

680
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 4: Maybe a little fresh.

681
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: Onion on there, like that too.

682
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: There you go make it extra stinky.

683
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 10: All right.

684
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: Our next segment is one minute Fishing.

685
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 9: Do I feel lucky?

686
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: We'll do you dunk, go ahead, make my cast. One

687
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: minute Fishing is where we go live to someone who's

688
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: fishing and they have one minute to catch fish, and

689
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars donation

690
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: to a conservation group. This week, our wrangler is Seth Morris,

691
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: who's at the meat Eater HQ pond and he's fishing

692
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: for a donation to Wiley is Unlimited.

693
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: Good to see us, Seth, Hey, guys, how are we doing.

694
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: We're doing good? Seth. Give us a little scouting report

695
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: on the meat eater pond today.

696
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 9: All right, So I came out earlier. I made a

697
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 9: couple casts. I had one swipe at it, which was

698
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 9: ideal because I didn't actually want to catch one, and

699
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 9: that told me all I need to know. So there's

700
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 9: some water flowing into this pond and seems like they're

701
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 9: stacked up over there in the current.

702
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: What's the water couler do you like today?

703
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 9: It's pretty good. I'd say three feet four feet. And

704
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 9: I will say, though, we just talked to a youngster

705
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 9: that was fishing in the same spot when we came

706
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 9: out here, and he said he had not caught anything.

707
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, But did you give me the old brush

708
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: off where you're like, oh yeah, there's nothing in there.

709
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: Beat it.

710
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: Maybe you thought you were a jump.

711
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 9: When you get a few more years of experience under

712
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 9: your belt like I have, maybe you'll catch them.

713
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: What what are we using today, Seth? I see you

714
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: got the spinning rod in your hands.

715
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, spinning rod as always number four panther Martin.

716
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to every child needs one of those.

717
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: It's right. We have not had a successful angler on

718
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: the meat eater pond yet, and this is our first

719
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: one minute fishing of the year since the ice has melted,

720
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: so maybe this is our chance. Seth.

721
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would say this is the best time to

722
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 9: fish this pond. Oh ye, all right, experience, we'll see.

723
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: A little hot tip off.

724
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 3: How's the garbage situation? Down there, good flow.

725
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 9: Well, I noticed over here is a pile of plastic

726
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 9: bottles yep, okay, which isn't great.

727
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna do clean up on that on Monday.

728
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: As an office uh huh.

729
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: And we've got I think we've got as many employees

730
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: here as there are pieces of trash out there, So

731
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: maybe leave some garbage while you're out there, Seth, trip

732
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: over or dump over the dumpster so we have something

733
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 2: to clean up next week.

734
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 9: Oh, there is a garbage can of tipped over over here.

735
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: So okay, perfect, kick that thing into the water for us.

736
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: All right, Seth, your one minute of fishing starts as

737
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: soon as you make your first cast.

738
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Go ahead, all right, there we go.

739
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Seth's made his first cast right towards the

740
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: current that he thinks the fish are hanging in.

741
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 4: Got new music, Phil, Oh No, it just starts off

742
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 4: really silent and then gets way too loud.

743
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 2: Beautiful day here in Bozeman. We've got green grass, no wind.

744
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: Had a glassy water.

745
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 2: Uh huh. All right, Seth is on the cast number two,

746
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: and he's got twenty seconds into his one minute.

747
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: Somehow he managed to avoid casting it into that tree

748
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: where I cast.

749
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: It, Seth thirty seconds ago. Come on, Seth, he's making

750
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: his third cast. He might be able to get one

751
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: more cast in here.

752
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 3: Do it for the memory of Chester.

753
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: All right, ches's still very much alive, just a few

754
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: states away, basically dead. All right, you have ten seconds

755
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: to go, Seth. Always taken a few steps with that cast.

756
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tournament angler cast right there.

757
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 2: Oh, your time is up, Seth Morris, tell us, tell

758
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: us what what happened there? Seth?

759
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 9: Well, you know, the cast were in the right spot,

760
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 9: the technique was there, just I don't think the fish

761
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 9: were there.

762
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: The fish were yeah, yeah, okay, all right.

763
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 9: We might need to rethink.

764
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: Spot or we need to we need to stock that pond.

765
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what we gotta do.

766
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: This segment continues to just produce.

767
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 9: I think next time we need to go with a

768
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 9: bobber and a night crawler.

769
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah or yeah, do one of each? Have that? Have

770
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 2: a bobber and a night crawler out there and throw

771
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: your panther Martin.

772
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if he's in a two rob zone.

773
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: Check check the eggs.

774
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 2: We'll see what the REGs say about the mediatory h

775
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: Q pond all right, Seth, thanks for joining us. Good

776
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: luck with your day of fishing out there at the pond.

777
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 3: Seeing a little bit says we'll see you.

778
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: All right. Our next segment is show and tell.

779
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 12: Mm hmm, Manie a show down, Manie a show had

780
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 12: step boom, Manie a show.

781
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: No, Spencer brought a rock?

782
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: What else did you inspect?

783
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 5: Is that?

784
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 12: Uh?

785
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: Is that Steve Winwood? It is indeed Steve Winwood.

786
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: I love a song.

787
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 2: Uh back in the high life again. If I owned

788
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: a yacht, I'd play yacht rock all day and Steve

789
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: Winwood he.

790
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 4: Would yacht rock all day in my Hyundai Santa Fe. Spencer,

791
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 4: do you have serious ExM No, I just spotify plist. Yeah.

792
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: I love when I did have serious though I would.

793
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: Yacht rock was one of my five presets on there.

794
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: I loved yacht rock and Steve Winwood he would have

795
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: some prime real estate in that yacht rock playlist for certain.

796
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: All right, Randal, let's start with you. What did you

797
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: bring to show the classroom today?

798
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: I brought one item from home, and then when I

799
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: got to the off today, I thought I'd add another

800
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: item today, and I figured that col didn't bring something,

801
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: so I thought, I'll just do twos.

802
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: What you brought, and then we'll find out.

803
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: So the first thing I brought, The first thing I

804
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: brought is a rare limited edition. You know, we've been

805
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: hearing from the fans that they needed a book version

806
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: of the audio Mountain Man. This is, in fact not

807
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: a licensed version. This is just some bootleg thing that

808
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: a guy produced with chat, GPT and A and a

809
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: print as you buy system. So I saw this on Amazon,

810
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: and before the lawyers could take it down, I ordered

811
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: a copy for eleven dollars.

812
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: Oh wait, this guy didn't do this is like a

813
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: favor to us. He was trying, no, no legit.

814
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: This was just show showed up on her on our

815
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: audiobook thing. Yeah, and so it's it doesn't have a

816
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: back cover, and it's it's very strange.

817
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: There's like, so to create your own back cover.

818
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and clearly they fed so that The one

819
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 3: troubling thing, and maybe this is a big takeaway, is

820
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: you hear how like artificial intelligence is getting so good

821
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: and it's just like all it can do is is

822
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: look at text and predict what text there should be,

823
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: you know, And I read this and it's horrible.

824
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: Oh and so are not your words that are well right?

825
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: They fed our audio into chat ept and they had

826
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: it make something that sounded like that. And so this

827
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: is so bad it's making me sort of rethink my

828
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 3: own abilities as a writer.

829
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 4: Sorry, I just got word from Corey Seth Coott went

830
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 4: on the next cast.

831
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: We need to make it.

832
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 3: So, guys, if you see if you see any print

833
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: versions of our audiobooks, they are in fact illegal pirated versions,

834
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 3: and don't buy them unless you just want a funny keepsake,

835
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: which I did.

836
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 2: So you should have got what was that guy charging

837
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,479
Speaker 2: for that box? Okay?

838
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

839
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

840
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 3: The next thing I brought is uh the oldest, the

841
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: oldest and more most celebrate freeze dried meal in my pantry.

842
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: This is a Cincinnati style chili backpacker's pantry that I

843
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: purchased at the Bozeman ARII. I believe in like twenty sixteen.

844
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: Oh when did it expire?

845
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: The expiration date was in May of last year. Oh,

846
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: and you can see some of the labels are peeling

847
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: off of it. And I've always saved this for a

848
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: real special occasion and uh ate it right now. The

849
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: time is never right, so it always goes into my

850
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 3: backpack when I'm going out on a hunt where I

851
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna, you know, have a memorable moment that

852
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: I want to celebrate with a fake version of Cincinnati

853
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: style chili.

854
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: What would it take?

855
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: You think, big old, big old bowl? But then I

856
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: get into a rush, you know, I get an animal down,

857
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: I start cutting it up, and then I start thinking

858
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: about how I can get it out of there. So

859
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: it's really like I'd have to be trapped on the

860
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: mountain with the an animal of a lifetime for me

861
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: to actually tear the seal on this, because I don't

862
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 3: think they make it anymore.

863
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: How does the seal feel on that thing? It's eight

864
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: years old?

865
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 3: Oh that's a good question.

866
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: Pretty good.

867
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: You know it doesn't like balloon out?

868
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: Uh huh?

869
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: When I yeah, I don't think it's airtight. Okay, I'm

870
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: just I hadn't really thought about it. I've rolled it

871
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: up and put in my backpack a lot over.

872
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: The past ten years, gone with though on a lot

873
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: of trips.

874
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: Yes, it's kind of like an old friend.

875
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: Now, was it saved for a special occasion the day

876
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: you bought it? Or did that recently change where it's like, Okay,

877
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: now I was.

878
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I was thrilled when I found it, and

879
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: I should have bought a lot of them. It wasn't No,

880
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: I didn't like buy it with the intention of saving it,

881
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: but it just never felt right to break into it.

882
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: And then over time it was like, I've got to

883
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: pick the right occasion. So probably three years after this

884
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: went in and out of my backpack, I decided it's

885
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: a real thing to actually eat it someday, And to

886
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 3: be honest, I don't know that I ever will. I

887
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: think my best days are behind me, and I also

888
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 3: lack the courage of conviction required to do something like,

889
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 3: you know, taking a moment and celebrate my accomplishments.

890
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: So I hope it happens this fall y, Does that

891
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: mean you killed something big?

892
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,479
Speaker 3: Well, tuck this under my arm pit when I'm heading

893
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: six feet under.

894
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good, cat. What'd you bring today for show

895
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: and tell? Prove Randa wrong at least taking a shoe off?

896
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 4: All right? What do you got here? Just incredibly on brand?

897
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: Do we have a QVC style? Just imagine we're playing

898
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 4: playing the music from the countdown? Just some some socks.

899
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: Lots of folks were into crocks I discovered these birken

900
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: Stocks versions of a croc. You can call them a

901
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: Burkeen croc. Oh lighter weight, I'll be the judge of

902
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: that lighter weight obviously weight class. Here, great camp shoe,

903
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: backpacking shoe.

904
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

905
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: And you know it's retal molded, doesn't stinko super comfey.

906
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: Good smell it, Randall, see if it smells or not?

907
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: No, you got to smell the insider.

908
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: H yeah, well yeah it's good. Let Randall. I'm not

909
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: saying smell it.

910
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: No, it smells like feet. It literally just smells like

911
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: a shoe.

912
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: But I highly recommend they were thirty bucks.

913
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: Uh huh. Cal's show intel item with the shoes on

914
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: his feet.

915
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good. Grant Grant asks is it breathable?

916
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 12: No?

917
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 4: No, well okay, I can't have it all not much

918
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 4: of a QBC.

919
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: Second, all right, my Show and Tell item, Well we'll

920
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: get better phil and and and listeners. Listeners if you're

921
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: out there.

922
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 4: Uh but wait, there's more.

923
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 3: Chime in with your thoughts on whether or not Cal

924
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 3: intended to use his shoe for Show and Tell today.

925
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: Why don't you show us that hoodie you were? And

926
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: uh maybe maybe the Eddie mug you're drinking out of

927
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: next time.

928
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no problem.

929
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: I was going to do this talk about this program

930
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: that Pheasants Forever Quail Forever together.

931
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: Well, you got to say something for more show and tells.

932
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully that show tell is is the winter time

933
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 3: again when he has as many layers as he needs

934
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: to come up with a good item.

935
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: Providing value to our audience.

936
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: Huh, my show and tell it. I'm friends with the

937
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: fossil dealer in Utah. It's visiting visiting his shop, and

938
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: I had two hundred dollars cash in my pickup and

939
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: I said, Seth, Seth, what's the coolest thing I could

940
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: get for two hundred dollars? And he pointed to what

941
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: I have here. This is one I only have like

942
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 2: three rocks that I've ever bought. The rest that I've found,

943
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: and this, in honor of today's show, is a dinosaur

944
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 2: tract that he sold me far far far under value.

945
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: This is worth way more than two hundred dollars. And

946
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: I protested for a second. I says, Seth, you can't

947
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: give me that thing for two hundred dollars, and he said,

948
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: sure I can, And so I didn't argue anymore. I

949
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: just took that dang track. This is two hundred million

950
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: years old. It's from a delufhosauruss Delafosaurus. It's found in

951
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: Connecticut from the Portland Formation. Hmm. This dinosaur was made

952
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: famous in Jurassic Park, but they depicted them way way wrong.

953
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: A lot of creative liberties. Mm hmm.

954
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

955
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: So in Jurassic Park they had them as like a

956
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: smaller dinosaur that had frills. When it would get angry,

957
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 2: it would would pop these frills off on.

958
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: Them spit in acidic venom. That's Dennis Nedri when he

959
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: wrecked his cheap to Costa Rica.

960
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: Uh huh, he needed that. It did spit venom in

961
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 2: the movie. These dinosaurs, Uh, they do not believe spit venom.

962
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: They don't think there was any dinosaurs that even possessed venom,

963
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: so that those were a lot of creative liberties.

964
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: The reality is actually it wouldn't be venom though, right.

965
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: It was just like an acidic phlegm, which would be

966
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: something that reptiles some reptiles these days have right, it's

967
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 1: just an acid to digest food.

968
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: But palaeontologists don't. They have no evidence that any of

969
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 2: these dinosaurs had any kind of venom or or any

970
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: sort of biological functions.

971
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: Right, It was just going wild with that.

972
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: But that that's the fun part is we don't have

973
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: that much evidence sure as to what exactly.

974
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: What they do think they know about these dinosaurs. This

975
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 2: is one of the first large meat eating dinosaurs that existed.

976
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: They stood about six feet tall, twenty feet long, weighed

977
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: nine hundred pounds, and at the time this was the

978
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 2: largest land mammal in North America that made this here track.

979
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite rocks.

980
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: Put your hand next to that thing.

981
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tiny. Yeah, That's what's funny about Jurassic Park

982
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 3: is that he makes the the Delaphosaurus a small, sort

983
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: of cute dinosaur, and then the velociraptor. They make much larger,

984
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: way larger than it was. So you know, do your research, kids.

985
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: That's right, It's one of my favorite rocks. I have

986
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: one of the few rocks that I've purchased. I asked Seth,

987
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: I says, Seth, you ever sold stuff to us to

988
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: anyone really famous, like a list celebrity or big politician.

989
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 2: And he says, yep, Carl, who are they? He says,

990
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: I can't tell you. And then I'm like, well, I

991
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: begged him. I said, will you give me a hint?

992
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 2: Can I make some guesses? He goes nope. So if

993
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: you're looking to if you're a famous personal.

994
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 4: I mean just between the the movie prop that they

995
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 4: you can't say what it's from. Why are these people

996
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 4: so secretive about this?

997
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: Just tell us, Yeah, we're in showbiz, we can take it.

998
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if you're looking if maybe if you were

999
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: like a star on Parks and Rec and you consume

1000
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: me eater content, you're looking for a fossil for your

1001
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: own home. Seth Sorenson from the Fossil Shack, he could up.

1002
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: And from the inside knowledge is that from Spencer's Hollywood

1003
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: Reporter beat is somebody from Parks and Rec.

1004
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: And I think there's a few characters from that show.

1005
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that they're interested in fossils. They've consumed

1006
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: me theater content in the pasts, So maybe they're listening

1007
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: right now. Maybe they're a male cast member from Parks

1008
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: and Rec, maybe two of them.

1009
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: And roughly in the age of Replasa never misses a show.

1010
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and maybe they're interested in having some fossils for

1011
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 2: their home. The fossil shack. He'll keep your secret. He

1012
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: won't tell me or anyone else that you sold him

1013
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: some big, beautiful fossils.

1014
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: Get after it. Roblo joining us.

1015
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 2: On the line. Last is Alex Fogg, the Okaloosa County

1016
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,959
Speaker 2: Natural Resources chief in Florida. He's here to talk about

1017
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: turning a retired ocean liner into the world's largest artificial

1018
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: reef Alex, Welcome to the show.

1019
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 5: Hey man, how's it going.

1020
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: We're doing good. First thing, tell us about the SS

1021
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: United States, which is the ship at the center of

1022
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 2: this story.

1023
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1024
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 5: Man, So it's a big old chip. When I first

1025
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 5: saw I thought I was looking at the Titanic, and

1026
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 5: it has that old ocean liner. Look, who's built back

1027
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 5: in the nineteen fifties, sailed all across the Atlantic, made

1028
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 5: the fastest crossing from the United States over to England,

1029
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 5: and then broke its own record com back, still the

1030
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 5: record that it holds today. While it still doesn't have

1031
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 5: that fresh code of paint on her anymore, you could

1032
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 5: certainly see how she was quite magnificent back in her heyday. Yeah.

1033
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: It's funny you compared it to the Titanic, because this

1034
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: ship is bigger than the Titanic slightly. And I've seen

1035
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: the images comparing the sizes of the SSU United States

1036
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: to the Titanic. Now, how did Akalousa County acquire the ship?

1037
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a heck of a process. We found

1038
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 5: out about it maybe three years ago. I had a

1039
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 5: contractor that we'd worked with on some other artificial reefs

1040
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 5: reach out and say, hey, you know, you should look

1041
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 5: at the ss United States. So I went down the

1042
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 5: Google rabbit hole started looking at you know what story

1043
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 5: this had, and there was some conflict between the old

1044
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 5: owner and the dock that it was at. So there

1045
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 5: was coming to a point to where the vessel is

1046
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 5: either going to be sold for scrap or it was

1047
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 5: gonna have to go to some other purpose. And really

1048
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 5: the only economical option was to create an artificial reef

1049
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 5: with this vessel. We've deployed hundreds of artificial reefs, dozens

1050
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 5: of wrecks, large vessels, not as big as this one,

1051
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 5: but large ones in the past, and it just it

1052
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 5: seemed like the right option for us to move forward

1053
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 5: with negotiating with the previous owner, and then we took

1054
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 5: ownership back in October, which was a big deal. A

1055
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 5: small county in Florida owning a thousand foot ocean liner

1056
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 5: that was in Philadelphia at the time.

1057
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: Can can you tell us what you guys paid, Alex.

1058
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we bought the ship for a million dollars,

1059
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 5: which is about the price of scrap if it were

1060
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 5: to be scrapped. There's about a million dollars worth of

1061
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 5: steel on board.

1062
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: Wow, and then it's a bargain. Yeah.

1063
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: How do you like the tug service to get that

1064
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: sucker down there? And then I imagine you got to

1065
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: do it quite a few man hours to make sure

1066
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: you're putting something not all that got awful in the water, right.

1067
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. So this is built in the time when

1068
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 5: they didn't really have many rules as to what was

1069
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 5: going into paint, what was being burned for fuel. So

1070
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 5: there's a lot of that that's still on board, even

1071
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 5: though a lot of it was gutted when it got

1072
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 5: burt overseas to Ukraine and Turkey. A lot of the

1073
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,439
Speaker 5: asbesos has gone, but there's still a lot of lead,

1074
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 5: a lot of PCBs that are in the paint, a

1075
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 5: lot of fuel oil. All that has to be removed

1076
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 5: to to ensure that we're not hurting the environment that

1077
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 5: we're open the benefit.

1078
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: Now, I've been surprised to read that. It seems like

1079
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the decision making is done at a

1080
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: very local level. In this case, Akalusa County. Would I'd

1081
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: expect there to be involvement from Noah and the US

1082
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: Fish and Wildlife Service and maybe even like the state

1083
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: of Alabama. Could you talk about the red tape involved

1084
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: with a project like this and how much or how

1085
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: little power Okalusa County has.

1086
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, Fortunately, we planned way ahead and the way artificial

1087
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 5: reconstruction works is you actually get permits way ahead of

1088
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 5: time for a certain area to allow you to deploy

1089
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 5: artificial reefs whenever you want. So we have a permit

1090
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 5: that's good for ten years. It was actually initially obtained

1091
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 5: back in the nineties, and you know it's still active

1092
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 5: today and we can deploy rex tomorrow if we want to.

1093
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 5: So we've already gone through all the consultation with Army Corps, engineers,

1094
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 5: Fish and Wildlife, Noah, all those folks, the people that

1095
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 5: we I guess had the most red tape that we

1096
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 5: had to cut through just to get out of Philadelphia

1097
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 5: with the US Coast Guard. So the Coast Guard was very,

1098
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 5: very nervous about a vessel that hadn't moved in thirty

1099
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 5: years looking the way that it did. They were worried

1100
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 5: about its ability to make the toe from Philadelphia all

1101
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 5: the way down into the Gulf and eventually into Mobile.

1102
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 5: So it was a hell of a toe. But after

1103
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 5: a lot of tests and a lot of surveys by

1104
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 5: all sorts of different people in Philadelphia, it was determined

1105
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 5: to be okay. There were some water bottles and cups

1106
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 5: and things that were left sitting on tables when we

1107
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 5: left Philadelphia. It arrived in Mobile with those cups and

1108
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 5: bottles still sitting in the same place.

1109
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 3: That we left them.

1110
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: Love it.

1111
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 5: It was a very stable boat, no issues, didn't take

1112
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 5: on any water. And now's the processes of getting her

1113
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 5: all cleaned up, and we'll have to go through similar

1114
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 5: hurdles when we tow her from Mobile to south of

1115
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,479
Speaker 5: destin Fort Walton Beach to deploy the wreath.

1116
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: I've seen some online resistance to this project, and there

1117
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: was a recent headline that said campaigners appealed Trump to

1118
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: save the SS United States. Why are some folks against this?

1119
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know this, this is one of the

1120
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 5: last vessels of its time, you know, essentially a handbuilt

1121
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 5: vessel that carries our nation's A lot of people are

1122
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 5: very passionate about this vessel. What the people that aren't

1123
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 5: so negative about this project don't really know, or maybe

1124
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 5: can't wrap their head around, is how.

1125
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 4: That is fishing.

1126
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: They don't know fish.

1127
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 5: There's fishing totally. I mean, there's a there's a ton

1128
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 5: of money in fishing and diving, and they probably aren't

1129
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 5: fishermen and divers themselves, but they can't wrap their head

1130
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 5: around what do would cost to actually restore this I

1131
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 5: mean we're talking at billion dollars to get this vessel

1132
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 5: to a point where it actually be used again. Not

1133
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 5: to mean I don't know where the heck you would

1134
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 5: put a thousand foot ship for for a long period

1135
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 5: of time. I mean it's had in Philadelphia for a

1136
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 5: long time and they essentially got thrown out. So there's

1137
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 5: just way too many logistics. I understand that there's historical

1138
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 5: value to it. That's where we're going to try and

1139
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 5: honor its legacy through a land based museum. So there's

1140
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 5: a whole bunch of artifacts that have been collected over

1141
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 5: the years where can actually remove the funnels, the big

1142
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 5: stacks on the top, and those will be retained for

1143
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 5: the museum and and allow folks to come and learn

1144
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 5: about it even after it's gone to the bottom. And

1145
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 5: if you are on a fisherman or a diver, then

1146
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 5: you know you can go there.

1147
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: How deep are we looking to sink this baby?

1148
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a massive ship, so it's going to be

1149
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 5: out one hundred and eighty feet of water, but the

1150
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 5: top decks, the whole top deck's gonna be at fifty

1151
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 5: five to sixty.

1152
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 10: Feet of water.

1153
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 4: Beautiful.

1154
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, very.

1155
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 5: Accessible to the beginner diver. But then if those technical

1156
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 5: folks want to go down to the bottom or go

1157
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 5: penetrate and check out the engine room, that's that's all

1158
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 5: on them.

1159
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: Oh that is cool. Have you thought about later putting

1160
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: oh I love love to dive.

1161
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1162
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: Have you thought about putting like some mattresses or old

1163
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: couches on the deck to get people's speed jigs and

1164
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: stuff and then you can go down there and collect them.

1165
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 5: I'll tell you, I think the wreck itself is going

1166
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 5: to be a magnet for all those all those hooks

1167
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 5: and line and jigs and everything. It's it's amazing how

1168
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 5: how smart, the fish are and nowhere to go to

1169
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 5: get you hung up.

1170
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 2: I love it. So there's about a year of prep

1171
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: work before you can sink this. What all happens in

1172
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: that time period.

1173
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 5: So once we got to Mobile, we got to Mobile

1174
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 5: on what early March, So we've been there about two

1175
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 5: months now. They've been removing one hundred and twenty tanks worth,

1176
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 5: so millions of gallons of fuel oil that's still on board.

1177
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 5: They're removing all the glass, removing all the hazardous paint.

1178
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 5: All of this has to come off, and for a

1179
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 5: thousand foot ship, that's a lot of material and a

1180
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 5: lot of manpowers you implied earlier. So once once she

1181
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 5: gets cleaned up, we'll have EPA and a bunch of

1182
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 5: other regulatory agencies on board to come take a look

1183
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 5: and make sure we did what we said we did,

1184
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 5: and then we'll get that clearance to go deploy it

1185
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 5: in one of those permitted areas that I mentioned earlier.

1186
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 5: So it's exciting times on the horizon, but still a

1187
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 5: ton of work that needs to be done to try

1188
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 5: and get this thing down in twenty twenty five.

1189
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the day comes where you're ready to drop

1190
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 2: this thing to the bottom of the ocean. What is

1191
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: the process actually like of sinking the ship.

1192
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, back in the day, they used to use bombs

1193
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 5: and explosives to blow holes in the side of it

1194
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 5: and make it go to the bottom really really fast.

1195
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 5: But they determined that that's not good for dolphin environment,

1196
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 5: So no, no dramatic explosions. But there'll be holes cut

1197
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 5: throughout the ship right above the water line to where

1198
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 5: when it's go time, you can open up through holes

1199
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 5: inside the ship to allow water to blood controlled. And

1200
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 5: then once those holes that are cut on the exterior

1201
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 5: of the vessel sink below the waterline, it'll be gone

1202
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 5: in forty minutes. It's a very process once you get

1203
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 5: to that point.

1204
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: What kind of sea life is going to like this

1205
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: new artificial reef you.

1206
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 5: Name it everything. So this is it's such a large

1207
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 5: vessel being placed in a location where there's really no

1208
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 5: reef material, natural or artificial existing at this time. So

1209
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 5: it's going to be an oasis. You're gonna have your

1210
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 5: reef fish species, your snappers, and your groupers. You're also

1211
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 5: gonna have your pelagic so it's gonna be you know, tunas,

1212
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 5: wahoo's billfish, other things swimming by I mean, it's such

1213
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 5: a large vessel, it's going to be a magnet for everything,

1214
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 5: including humans.

1215
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 3: Alex, It's been a while since I've been in the

1216
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: ship sinking game, so I'm curious you guys ended up

1217
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: with the ship. Were there other localities competing with you

1218
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 3: for it?

1219
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 4: And then.

1220
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 3: Along those same lines, is there like a top ten

1221
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 3: list of ships like this sitting around the country that

1222
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 3: folks in your line of work are are eyeballing and

1223
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 3: waiting for to go on the market, or sort of

1224
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: how does that shopping process look like?

1225
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, start with the first question about other communities. Yeah,

1226
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 5: there's there were other communities that were certainly looking at this,

1227
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 5: but they didn't have Their total project cost is right

1228
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 5: around ten million dollars, so they didn't have ten million

1229
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 5: dollars to commit to a project like this. We fortunately

1230
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 5: have leadership in the foresight to be able to obligate

1231
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 5: those funds and then find partnerships on the back end.

1232
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 5: So we've been working to find a number of partnerships

1233
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 5: to alleviate that total cost, including partnering with some neighboring

1234
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 5: communities that we're also looking at getting this vessil. So

1235
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 5: it's a win win for everybody. Those partnerships haven't been

1236
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 5: formalized yet, but I suspect it'll be in the coming

1237
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 5: month or two. As far as selecting vessels, a lot

1238
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 5: of it's a case by case basis. You know, Sometimes

1239
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 5: a vessel catches fire and they can't put it back

1240
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 5: into operations, so they give us a call and see

1241
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 5: if we'd be interested in taking it as an artificial reef.

1242
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's an old vessel that has no other opportunities,

1243
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 5: you know, like the SS United States. There's really no

1244
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 5: other options, so we worked with them to keep it

1245
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 5: from going to the scrapyard and turning it into the

1246
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 5: world's largest artificial reef. There are some large vessels out

1247
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 5: there that we're certainly keeping our eye on, but it's

1248
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 5: not something we're actively pursuing until something hits the fan.

1249
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 3: Fascinating.

1250
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: Have you thought about the merch opportunities here? You know,

1251
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: there's so many bolt cliches, like T shirts that say

1252
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: the two best days of boat ownership the day you

1253
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: buy it and the day you sink it.

1254
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 5: Like that. Oh Man knows that's a great point. So

1255
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 5: there's a lot of examples of where large vessels have

1256
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 5: been deployed and they are visited by people from around

1257
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 5: the world. The amount of merchandise that pops up is

1258
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 5: incredible in the age of social media and digital media

1259
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 5: and podcasts like this, it's it's it's amazing how many

1260
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 5: people have learned about this, And I suspect that the

1261
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 5: returns in the form of merchandise and visitation all that

1262
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 5: stuff is going to be significantly more than anything that's

1263
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 5: ever been done before. So we're really looking to see

1264
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 5: look at We're really excited to see what pops up

1265
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 5: from this, But we're in the we're not in the

1266
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 5: business of merchandise. So I think that's probably going to

1267
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 5: come down to the dive shops and the fishing shops

1268
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 5: and stuff like that.

1269
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: How quickly will fish start using this new reef.

1270
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 5: Yep, they'll be fish there probably the day after it's

1271
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 5: been deployed. There'll be a bunch of bake fish. Now

1272
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 5: they aren't going to be established, they're not going to

1273
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 5: be sit there reproducing and eating and all that stuff.

1274
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 5: They're more just there because there's some new thing that's

1275
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 5: on the bottom. It'll take a year or two before

1276
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 5: it's a functioning system, but there will be things to

1277
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 5: see immediately after it goes to the bottom.

1278
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: And how do you envision sportsmen using it?

1279
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 5: Oh man, the amount of early on when you know

1280
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 5: there maybe aren't enough fish there to really sustain a fisherman,

1281
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 5: or you make for a good day of fishing. It's

1282
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 5: going to be heavily dived. But once it's become that

1283
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 5: established system, there's gonna be fishing people fishing it every

1284
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 5: single day, and then there's going to be people spearfishing

1285
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 5: on it every single day. So it's going to be

1286
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 5: hammered by the sports fishermen. But the good news is

1287
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 5: there's a lot of other fishing sites and diving sites

1288
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 5: all around this vessel, so if there's a bunch of

1289
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 5: people there, they can go to one of those other

1290
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 5: sites and wait their turn.

1291
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for joining us, Alex. Congrats on the

1292
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 2: record breaking reef and good luck with the project.

1293
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 5: Yep, thank you. You guys have a good one.

1294
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 3: Thanks you too.

1295
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: Cal's going to be there in a few years.

1296
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 9: Oh, I love.

1297
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. You look at the map that Okaloosa County has

1298
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: of all the artificial reefs they created. It's like reefs

1299
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: on top of reefs. At this point, I think they

1300
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: got to figure it out over there.

1301
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alabama's kind of an overlooked Gulf state.

1302
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 4: Too cool. All right.

1303
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of this week's show,

1304
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: Philllet's get some final feedback from the chat.

1305
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 4: Brent would just like to set the record straight that

1306
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 4: he did the Turkey reveal thing first, so that's it's

1307
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 4: fine he when he does it. Spencer, your holy grail

1308
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 4: for rock hounding, I.

1309
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 2: Would say it's a rock that probably doesn't even exist.

1310
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 2: I would want a rock that has multiple bits of history.

1311
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 2: So if I got to pick one rock to find,

1312
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: it would be a meteorite that hit Earth, and then

1313
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: that meteorite was eaten by a dinosaur because dinosaurs had

1314
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 2: gizzards just like birds. So people will find or claim

1315
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: to find. It's not always confirmed. A rock that was

1316
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: a dinosaur gizzard stone and they're very smooth and round.

1317
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: That's it's a gastrolith.

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01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: The gasterlith is on the ground, gasterlight is in the bird.

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01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 4: Is that right?

1320
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: Well, I think lift would be stone.

1321
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1322
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: When I when I hear it referred to as the

1323
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: fossil version, it's a gastrolith. Okay, So I'd want a

1324
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: meteorite that hit her that was then eaten by a

1325
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: dinosaur and was used as a gizzardstone, become a gastrolith,

1326
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: and then maybe some ancient human picked it up and

1327
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: used it as a pestile with a pestil and mortar.

1328
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: That's that's my holy grail. I want. It's it's a

1329
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: it's a small ask something that came from outer space

1330
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: that was in a dinosaur's gizzard that then some ancient

1331
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: human used to crush acorns.

1332
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, I basically stayed at the site of

1333
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: the Jones diamond. Are you familiar with that one? No,

1334
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: it's the largest specific kind of diamond that's blank and

1335
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: on here right now. It was found in West Virginia

1336
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: and a creek. But it's like a giant mystery stone.

1337
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: You would love this because the formation it comes out

1338
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: of is in Brazil, and so there's a theory that

1339
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: it was traded over and over and over and over

1340
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,439
Speaker 1: and over again and eventually got dropped in this creek

1341
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: in West Virginia.

1342
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 3: That's the largest alluvial diamond alluvial never discovered in North America.

1343
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: That's that's got all the ingredients of the whole thing.

1344
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: This kind of brings us full circle because diamonds are

1345
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 3: and the search for them, particularly in alluvial floodplains, is

1346
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 3: a key plot element of the film and book Congo.

1347
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 3: Yes exactly wowl diamonds though, because they want to use

1348
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 3: those in some sort of primitive laser processor in the book. Yeah,

1349
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: in the movie it's a laser weapon. But yeah, go ahead.

1350
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 4: When we were talking about the legislation in DC, Max

1351
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 4: brought up the fact that Cal and Mark both dropped

1352
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 4: a podcast today about their recent trip to d C. Cal,

1353
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if you want to just talk briefly

1354
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 4: about what you did over there and what kind of

1355
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,439
Speaker 4: shows you'll be dropping for in the Calm the Wild

1356
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 4: Feed next week. Oh boy, Phil and I were just

1357
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 4: crying over the news cycle moving way too fast for

1358
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 4: our pace here. Yeah, we did some lobbying on the

1359
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 4: hill in Washington, d C. We attended the Teddy Roosevelt

1360
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 4: Conservation Partnership Capital Conservation Awards and basically just rubbed elbows

1361
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 4: with some newly appointed Trump appointees in different offices like

1362
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 4: National Resource Conservation Service and some folks in the Egg Department,

1363
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 4: and then tried to hit as many Senate and House

1364
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 4: offices as possible to ask them to join the brand

1365
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 4: spicketty New Released Public Lands Caucus led by Gave Vasquez

1366
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: out of New Mexico and Ryan Zinki out of Montana.

1367
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 4: I saw Congressman Mike Simpson was in the lineup with

1368
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 4: that too, But we need more of that, and that's

1369
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 4: what we're really encouraging people to do. We were also

1370
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 4: talked about mineral withdrawal and the boundary waters. We talked about.

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01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: Active land management and not selling off our public land,

1372
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: especially doing it in a way that avoids all the

1373
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: things that the public has come to trust, which is

1374
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: knowing what we're giving up for what we're getting quite simply.

1375
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: So fill what else yet?

1376
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 4: Let's see here? Oh yeah, you're playing trivia at the

1377
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 4: BHA rendezvoute for Rendezvous, correct, Spencer.

1378
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: I won't be there, but Randall, Randall will be. Randall

1379
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 2: is going to be leading trivia at the BHA Rendezvous

1380
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 2: for the second year in a.

1381
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 3: Row, Saturday night. I believe it starts at eight pm

1382
01:08:54,840 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 3: June June teens, the mid teens. Whatever the Saturday is, yeah,

1383
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 3: I think it's the Tuesdays is seventeenth, so going backwards

1384
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 3: since you carry the three.

1385
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: Yeah while you're there.

1386
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: So it's the weekend of the thirteenth, So it's Friday

1387
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 1: the thirteenth, Saturday the fourteenth, and then we're going to

1388
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: have a big public Lands rally on the fifteenth there

1389
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: in Missoula, which is also Father's Day.

1390
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 3: Well, we'll make up a plan here soon. I think

1391
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 3: it'd be fun to get some audience participation in that game,

1392
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 3: but I haven't yet sat down to think through the logistics.

1393
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 3: But rest is sure, Leland. We will be playing trivia

1394
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: and it will be a wonderful time. Yeah, in support

1395
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 3: of a good organization.

1396
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 2: If you see Randall there, go ask him about the

1397
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 2: drunkest he's ever been in his life and he'll have

1398
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 2: a good story to share with you.

1399
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 3: Nope, he'll go there.

1400
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 1: Okay, won't go there.

1401
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 2: He won't share that story with you, So ask him anyway.

1402
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,879
Speaker 4: Jacob's going on a four day paddle trip in the Midwest.

1403
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 4: It's kind of a big area, Jacob, but he's asking

1404
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 4: for recommendations on scenic rivers with decent fishing. There's a

1405
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 4: lot of four day of.

1406
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 3: Paddles, but four days if you're straying together. Four days

1407
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 3: like camping along the way, You're probably limited.

1408
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: Go to the Boundary Waters.

1409
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, go to the Boundary Waters.

1410
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: You could paddle for months up there. It's plenty scenic

1411
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: and some of the finest fishing in North America.

1412
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: Any other recommendation, it's gonna be totally different when there's

1413
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: an open pit copper sulfide.

1414
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 3: Mind, I've only done I've only done one one night,

1415
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 3: two day trips on the Little Miami River, and I

1416
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 3: don't think it's sort of attracting visitation for out of states.

1417
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 3: So maybe look elsewhere.

1418
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. Randy will tell you where not

1419
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: to go. What else you got, Phil.

1420
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 4: Kevin says, mean, it's a really great fossil. Really happy

1421
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 4: for you, But what the people really need to know

1422
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 4: is what shoe you're wearing.

1423
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I've got just some Nike tennis shoes on.

1424
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: Kevin answer, I mean, a man of the people, I'll

1425
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: do my own.

1426
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 4: There's a couple of silly questions, but I feel like

1427
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 4: I've done a lot of silly questions.

1428
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: Let's get a couple more.

1429
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 3: I'll get my own audience call out. I saw questions

1430
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 3: right after we finished our discussion of the gorilla battle,

1431
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 3: and someone pointed out that they don't believe that that

1432
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 3: many humans would be killed, just very badly injured. And

1433
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 3: I actually I'd like to go back on my statement

1434
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 3: about thirty to forty being killed. That is, unless the

1435
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 3: gorilla had time to go around and sort of finish

1436
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 3: off his victims. I think it would just be a

1437
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 3: lot of maimings. So whoever that was pointwell taken, he'll.

1438
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: Put him in a coma. Yeah, they can make him

1439
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: on bed rest, yep, anything else.

1440
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 4: Phil Marty says inquiring minds wants to know who's in

1441
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 4: charge of bumping into the giant foothold trap behind Spencer

1442
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 4: every week.

1443
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 3: I'll address this. Yah, I've got a follow up for you,

1444
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 3: and it's not you know. The thing is is, it's

1445
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 3: not the person who's actually bumping into the trap who's responsible.

1446
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: It's the person who sits in Spencer's seat.

1447
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 4: You see.

1448
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: I think in the event of a fire, everybody on

1449
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 3: this side of the table would be dead because there's

1450
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 3: not a lot of clearance between the tripods and that

1451
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 3: host seat, and so if someone is sitting in that

1452
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 3: seat and not paying attention to those around them, they

1453
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 3: oftentimes will force those of us with larger bodies to

1454
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 3: sort of push up against the wall, which wasn't as

1455
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 3: hazardous until that foothold trap was in place. So it's

1456
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 3: not the it's not the guy bumping the trap. It's

1457
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 3: the guy he's trying to avoid.

1458
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 4: And I will say, for being such a respected hunter

1459
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 4: and personality in the industry, Stephen Ranella has very little

1460
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 4: awareness of what's happening around him. So I'll walk, He'll

1461
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 4: be in the chair leaning back. He's just fine, that's

1462
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 4: his right. But then I come up next to kind

1463
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 4: of I don't he's usually on the phone, you're sending

1464
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 4: an email. I'll kind of try to squeeze through, and

1465
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 4: then I'll finally just have to say, excuse me, Steve,

1466
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 4: excuse me, hind you, Yeah, and then he'll move about

1467
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 4: an inch and then I'll still bump work trap, which

1468
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 4: works for some.

1469
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 3: Folks in this office.

1470
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, you have to make him acknowledge you to

1471
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 2: get behind his chair. And Marty and everyone else listening

1472
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 2: to this, if you really want to help out phil

1473
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: If if you're a Philistine, what are your what are

1474
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 2: your fans called?

1475
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 4: Oh well, there's a question about that. Apparently people don't

1476
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 4: like philistine because they think I'm being it's rude, but

1477
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 4: I'm I'm erasing it, let's call it.

1478
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 3: And my favorite one that I've seen is the cal Mudgeons.

1479
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 4: Someone came up with calamanders in this show.

1480
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 2: Oh that's good. If you're a philistine, the thing that

1481
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: you can do, uh, to really prove that you're philistine

1482
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 2: is write an email to the meat eater at the

1483
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: medeater dot com and say, hey, I think you guys

1484
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: need a bigger studio because we have multiple walls here

1485
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 2: we could knock out and we can make a bigger

1486
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: space for you. And boy, if you think we're podcasting

1487
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: at a high level, now just wait until this room

1488
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: has like an extra We're going to be over the place,

1489
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: sixty square feet of We're not going to bump any

1490
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 2: more anymore tramps.

1491
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: Quiet air circulation wouldn't be great.

1492
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, phil phil would be So write an email to

1493
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: the meat eater at the medeater dot com and say, hey,

1494
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 2: I think you guys need to make your podcast studio

1495
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: a little bigger.

1496
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 4: Spencer said it.

1497
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: I didn't, Yeah, I did, say, all right, next week's show,

1498
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 2: We've got a very exciting media to radio Live. It's

1499
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: dedicated to Man's Best Friend. Because it is dog Week

1500
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 2: here at Meat Eater, we got special guests joining us

1501
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: and a Meat Eater Movie Club Randa, what are you

1502
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:07,759
Speaker 2: gonna be reviewing?

1503
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm pleased to announce that the Meat Eater Movie

1504
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 3: Club is returning by popular demand, and next week, in

1505
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 3: keeping with the theme of Dog Week, we're gonna be

1506
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 3: reviewing Where the Red Fern Grows. Perfect for dog there

1507
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 3: aren't that many good like I was I was, I

1508
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 3: was gonna go with Balto. No, if I have to

1509
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 3: watch air Bud, I'm instead watch Dunstan checks In because

1510
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 3: it's the same thing. But within Orangton, we didn't have

1511
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 3: White Fang. I thought about White Fang, but then you

1512
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 3: did the old one or the or the remake?

1513
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: What was the Stephen King movie with? Yeah, that one.

1514
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 2: There you go.

1515
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna go with Where the Red Fern Grows. It's

1516
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,879
Speaker 3: available on two b Ku, Fandango, at home Plex, Peacock,

1517
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 3: Amazon Prime, YouTube, YouTube TV, and then you can rent

1518
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 3: it on Google Play Movies and Apple TV. But don't

1519
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 3: rent it, just find free. There also seems to be

1520
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 3: just like some bootleg version of it on YouTube, so

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Speaker 3: I don't endorse as we know, I don't endorse the

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Speaker 3: infringement of intellectual property. But check it out on YouTube

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Speaker 3: before you go rent.

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Speaker 2: What movie did you tell me you were considering doing

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Speaker 2: but it didn't really do it for you, didn't really

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Speaker 2: get you revved up? Old yeller, Old yeller, Yeah, Dad

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Speaker 2: doesn't do it for Randall.

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Speaker 3: So I mean that's the thing. There's just like sad movies.

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Speaker 3: Homeward bound. Maybe maybe I'll just show up next week

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Speaker 3: and I'll talk about Homeward Bound instead to myself.

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Speaker 2: One more important detail for next week, we want a

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Speaker 2: hot tip off showdown dedicated to dogs. So send your

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Speaker 2: hot tip to radio at the Mediator dot com with

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Speaker 2: the subject line hot dog Tips. We'll have a great

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Speaker 2: prize for the winner. That's the end of this week's show.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you guys back here next week for Dog Week.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thanks everybody.