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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: This is Buck.

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Speaker 2: I'm here with Clay and I am back from Scotland,

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Speaker 2: which is, I will say, a fantastic place, and I'll

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Speaker 2: try not to talk too much about it today.

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Speaker 1: Becau's a lot of big news We're going to get to.

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Speaker 2: Clay, I know, kept everything, kept everything cool, calm and collected.

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Speaker 1: Last week.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he did let Trump go get his mugshot taken,

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Speaker 2: and apparently some crazy stuff happened while I was gone.

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Speaker 2: I saw that photo, so Clay, we said, no keg parties.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's not a keg party, but wow, is

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Speaker 2: that a crazy moment in our history that occurred while

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Speaker 2: I was out.

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Speaker 3: I almost feel like Buck, it doesn't really matter at

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Speaker 3: this point when you or I are gone, or when

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Speaker 3: anybody out there goes on vacation or takes a trip.

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Speaker 3: We're almost every week something that has never occurred before

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Speaker 3: in the history of the nation. It feels like is happening,

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Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter what week You're like, Oh, this

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Speaker 3: week's going to be quiet. I'm going to go somewhere

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Speaker 3: and then something crazy happens, and I feel like that's

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Speaker 3: only going to accelerate over the next sixteen months or so.

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Speaker 3: We're going to see things the likes of which we've

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Speaker 3: never seen. I totally co sign on to that it's

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Speaker 3: going to get crazy out there. Thanks thanks to my

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Speaker 3: wife Carrie, who was okay with me driving around the

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Speaker 3: Scottish countryside, just constantly saying, oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wee Bonnie Las, you know, just just.

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Speaker 3: Throwing out this Scotland by the way, before we get

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Speaker 3: into all the craziness. What would you recommend for people

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Speaker 3: out there who are listening Scotland as a tourist destination.

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Speaker 1: Love it?

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a great country with

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Speaker 2: really charming, enduring people. And you know, you're not going

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Speaker 2: there for beach stuff. You're not going to have sunny

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Speaker 2: skies in eighty five, so it's the summer. But I

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Speaker 2: mean it was sixty degrees every day, nice breeze. I

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Speaker 2: absolutely loved it. I've been melting in South Lorda for

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Speaker 2: the last three months, so I really appreciated it. Food,

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Speaker 2: great dranks of Scotch, phenomenal time. Anybody DM me or

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Speaker 2: you know, send me a message on Facebook or an

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Speaker 2: email or something. Our VIPs email us if you want

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Speaker 2: an itinerary, I'll give you a one week Scotland breakdown.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I even went to the Brave Heart,

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Speaker 2: the Brave Heart monument Clay or the William Wallace monument,

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Speaker 2: I should say. I told the lady who was running it,

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Speaker 2: who's like collecting tickets. I was like, you know, I

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Speaker 2: was going to show up with my face painted blue,

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Speaker 2: but my wife wouldn't let me. And she was like,

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Speaker 2: YA should have. I'd let you in for free, a

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Speaker 2: silly bastard. And I was like, oh, okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: you know next time, next time?

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Speaker 1: Did you see lock Ness?

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Speaker 3: By the way, they had the biggest search for the

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Speaker 3: Lockness Monster maybe ever going on while you were over there.

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Speaker 2: Can neither confer nor deny that x Cia Bucke is

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Speaker 2: in country and we're trying to actually find Locknest Monster.

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Speaker 1: NeSSI I think is not her name? Is correct? Yes?

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Speaker 2: NeSSI, Yeah we didn't They didn't didn't find her yet,

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Speaker 2: But was I a part of this high tech search mission?

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Speaker 2: Can neither confirm nor deny. That's that's on a need

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Speaker 2: to know basis. Everybody, so other things on a need

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Speaker 2: to know basis, as in, for all of you in

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Speaker 2: the audience out there, we have let's see new polling out, Clay,

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Speaker 2: I get to see the aftermath. I watched the debate

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Speaker 2: obviously after it occurred. It was like the dead in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the night in Scotland. Watched the debate

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Speaker 2: and watched much of the aftermath over there. I tried

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Speaker 2: to be offline, but I've caught up all weekend. New

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Speaker 2: polling out showing where the numbers have moved. We'll discuss

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Speaker 2: that more Americans think Biden is too old to run

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Speaker 2: seventy seven percent, including sixty nine percent of Democrats. Also interesting,

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Speaker 2: Clay's Scotch drinking buddy Gavin Newsom getting a little bit

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Speaker 2: of heat from some of the Biden camp.

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Speaker 1: You may have seen this.

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Speaker 2: They're saying it's disrespectful that Newsom is running this shadow

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Speaker 2: campaign whether he gets in or not in the back.

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Speaker 2: So we can certainly discuss that. The feel good video

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Speaker 2: of the week, I'm calling it. If you haven't seen it,

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Speaker 2: we will put it up on Clayandbuck dot com for you.

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Speaker 2: Were these Nevada Rangers you saw, That's right, Clay. They

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Speaker 2: just they had these climate protesters snarling traffic for miles

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Speaker 2: for miles, and sure enough the police show up and

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Speaker 2: they actually did something about it.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good. The video is great.

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Speaker 2: We can discuss that, but let's start with we got

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Speaker 2: big news today. We got to jump into this because

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Speaker 2: we've got a million things to talk about. I'm so

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Speaker 2: happy to be back in to talk to everybody. I

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Speaker 2: miss the radio fam when I'm gone. I did see

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Speaker 2: one of our listeners randomly in Scotland, which was a lot.

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Speaker 3: I read that text from you on Friday, I think

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Speaker 3: when you were out on a hike.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great. It was great.

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Speaker 2: Now we're we're on the we're walking down and right

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Speaker 2: is one of the most charming cities I think outside

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Speaker 2: of the United States, you can go anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: The big news today, though it happened right before we

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Speaker 2: come on, is that Judge Chuckkin has set a March fourth,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four trial date. Now, this is for the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty election January sixth case. This is coming at

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Speaker 2: a time when we're still watching all the pieces get

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Speaker 2: put into place for the legal assault, the legal barrage

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Speaker 2: against Donald Trump. Clay, we talked to this before. You

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Speaker 2: said zero percent chance any of these trials. I think

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Speaker 2: you said zero percent chance, which is pretty certain that

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Speaker 2: any of them happened before the election. And then you said,

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Speaker 2: well said, I thought New York City. No, that's what

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say. You thought you thought New York.

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Speaker 2: So we agree that New York is probably happening. Right,

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Speaker 2: That's that's where we are. I will say dersh Alan

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Speaker 2: Dershowitz has gone from all four half to a couple

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Speaker 2: killing me here. None of them are happening, is the

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Speaker 2: latest from Dirshwitz. I'm just gonna say, brilliant guy, but

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Speaker 2: don't ask him. You know what team is gonna win

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Speaker 2: the game on Sunday. Because he's changes, he's changes.

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Speaker 1: It's good to cover every angle buck.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be right with the perspectives that he's now adopted.

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Speaker 1: Here, I'm on. I'm on to dirsha on this one.

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Speaker 2: I see all you can't go from all four are

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Speaker 1: I never thought that was gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: You can't go from all four to zero in two

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Speaker 2: this one. Clay Chuck Judge Chuck Kin has set March fourth.

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Speaker 2: Does this happen? What is the timing? Tell you?

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Speaker 1: And do you do you think.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to adjust your percentages now that one

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Speaker 3: Okay, so here I think everybody needs to understand what happened,

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Speaker 3: because I haven't seen anybody discussing this. But remember the

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Speaker 3: timeline here in Atlanta. The judge in Atlanta. Initially, do

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Speaker 3: you remember this, Buck, You remember what day she set

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Speaker 3: the Atlanta trial for initially March fourth, And then everybody

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Speaker 3: This is the Atlanta State, the Georgia State, Atlanta City,

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Speaker 3: Fulton County. Initially they said, we're gonna get this trial

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Speaker 3: in on March fourth. Because what's happening, Buck is everybody

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Speaker 3: is jostling because really it's almost unprecedented to have four

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Speaker 1: So all these.

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Speaker 3: Courts have to take note of the schedule that exists

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Speaker 3: I think it was October twenty third, and that news

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Speaker 3: ask our team, wait, is that October twenty third of

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Speaker 1: Which is crazy. So she bumps her trial all the way.

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Speaker 3: This Georgia judge does all the way up to October

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Speaker 3: twenty third, which Buck freed up March fourth, because the

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Speaker 3: So they're now trying to angle all these things in.

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Speaker 3: I think the odds that this case starts on March

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Speaker 1: But I also think this is all crazy. Buck.

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Speaker 3: You ever have a friend, and maybe I bet you

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Speaker 3: have at some point, you ever have a friend who

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Speaker 1: Gonna spend the rest of your life with this person.

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Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of the wheels that have

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Speaker 1: People how crazy all this is. Because you can take.

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Speaker 3: The steps, oh, we're going to investigate, we're going to

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Speaker 3: it becomes real and you kind of see that light

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Speaker 3: what it means to get married, when you're engaged, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter as much.

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Speaker 1: I think even people on.

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Speaker 3: The left buck are starting to recognize, holy crap, this

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Speaker 3: precedential situation the likes of which has never occurred, and

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Speaker 3: no one has any idea how to basically step off

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Speaker 3: of this track that they're on right now.

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Speaker 2: I do think it's fair to point out that the

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Speaker 2: the mugshot and the fundraising that has come from that,

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Speaker 2: and you know it is a badass mug shot. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say, I mean, he you know, Trump, Trump leaned in,

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Speaker 2: texted you. I couldn't it looked like something that was

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Speaker 2: if you told AI, make the most you know, fierce Trump.

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Speaker 1: Mugshot, you possibly can. That's what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: So while we're talking about that and the politics of it,

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Speaker 2: I think there has to be more of a recognition

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Speaker 2: out is going to do so independently in some ways

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Daily Mail headline.

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Speaker 2: debate him, which is a precedent now that Trump has played.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think that the debates if we're what

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say is, if we're hanging our hat on,

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Speaker 2: oh man, assuming that I'm right, which I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it's one hundred percent obviously,

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Speaker 2: but assuming I'm right and Biden is the guy going forward,

442
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Speaker 2: if we're hanging our hat on, he's going to get

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Speaker 2: crushed in debate.

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to be disappointed. And I also I.

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Speaker 2: Know this is you know, it's so easy to extrapolate

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Speaker 2: into the future based on how everything feels right now

447
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Speaker 2: in politics. And you know, I remember, I mean I

448
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Speaker 2: actually just pulled this up because I remember reading it.

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Speaker 2: This was in Politico in July of twenty eleven, okay,

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Speaker 2: and it was like the end of July. This was

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Speaker 2: this was basically August considered August first, same thing as

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Speaker 2: the last day of July. Obama's approval rating hit an

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Speaker 2: all time low.

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Speaker 1: Think about that, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Obama hit an all time low approval rating. And now

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Speaker 2: that was also Joe Biden was the vice president. There's

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Speaker 2: some connective tissue here. All time low in the summer

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Speaker 2: of twenty eleven, we're.

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Speaker 1: Going into it.

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Speaker 2: We think we got oh, we got all these candidates.

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Speaker 2: We got Newt Gingridge, wasn't he in it? Right? We

462
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Speaker 2: got mid Romney, we got you know, we got all

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Speaker 2: these different guys. Fred Thompson had his moment, right, We

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Speaker 2: got all these people, and Obama absolutely crushed Romney in

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Speaker 2: twenty twelve. I'm bringing this up because the world that

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Speaker 2: we see right now, the narrative we see right now

467
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Speaker 2: is the calm before the storm. They are not running ads,

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Speaker 2: they are not spending the money, and it's even beyond

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Speaker 2: the money. As you know, the Democrats can count on

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Speaker 2: the machinery of the media to carry water for them

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Speaker 2: ninety percent of the time, ninety five percent of the time, right,

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Speaker 2: so they all those huge built in advantages.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like.

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Speaker 2: People, this whole is this game that we all play of,

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Speaker 2: Oh Biden, he's so weak, and he's you were running

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Speaker 2: against the Democrat Party, You're not really running against Biden.

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Speaker 2: What I just keep coming back to, Buck is no

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Speaker 2: one votes for Biden. And I think you're right. I

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Speaker 2: think they vote for the Democrat Party. He is the

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Speaker 2: apparatus candidate. But I think even uniquely, I just come.

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Speaker 3: Back to, when's the last time you saw somebody in

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Speaker 3: a Biden shirt? When's the last time you saw someone

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Speaker 3: in a Biden hat?

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Speaker 2: Never but Clay, that includes twenty twenty really and look

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Speaker 2: where we are.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's my point. People didn't vote for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Democrats motivated people to come out and vote against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: And the reason why, and again, right is well that's

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Speaker 3: the plan certainly for twenty four which is why when

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Speaker 3: I watch that debate, the veik Nikki Hayley, Tim Scott

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Speaker 3: and certainly Ron DeSantis as well. I think all four

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Speaker 3: of them, it's harder to motivate people to show up

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Speaker 3: and vote against them. And so when I look at it,

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Speaker 3: if it's Trump Biden, there's third party, there's health considerations.

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Speaker 3: To your point, it's hard to project exactly, but the

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Speaker 3: Democrat playbook is going to be not your voting for

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: It's that you're voting against Trump.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I think that's hard to run against any

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Speaker 3: of the four people I named who were on the stage,

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Speaker 3: because I think they would trounce Biden. Now I understand

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Speaker 3: there's also Trump people out there who say I would

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Speaker 3: never show up and vote for those other people.

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Speaker 1: We'll put that aside for a second, though. Just the the.

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Speaker 2: Non college educated, white working class voter in the Key States.

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Speaker 2: If we're really narrowing it down to the demographics of

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Speaker 2: what delivered Trump the election in twenty sixteen, and you

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Speaker 2: know that Trump was able to win over enough of

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Speaker 2: those voters in just the right way, at just the

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Speaker 2: right time to beat Hillary Clinton. Could those other voters,

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Speaker 2: I mean, other candidates you're bringing up, could they do that?

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Speaker 2: Will they get the same kind of response? And now,

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Speaker 2: so basically it turns into You're right about the voting

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Speaker 2: against Trump versus voting for Biden. But also, I mean

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Speaker 2: there is a turnout component of this, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know that a Senator Scott presidential campaign or a you know,

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Speaker 2: DeSantis residential campaign. I think he's a great governor. Everybody

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Speaker 2: knows that. I think he's not a phenomenal job as

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Speaker 2: a governor of my home state of Florida. But the

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Speaker 2: big it's a question mark, right, It's a question mark

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Speaker 2: will they get the same kind of turnout among those

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Speaker 2: voters or but you know, the disantand people, you know

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Speaker 2: what they would say, you have college educated suburban voters,

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Speaker 2: including women. So and I also think, to me, the

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Speaker 2: test is out. I understand the argument of Trump motivates

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Speaker 2: a lot of non traditional voters.

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Speaker 1: He does.

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Speaker 3: I think Trump turns out more people against him who

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Speaker 3: are unlikely to vote than he does turns out people

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Speaker 3: for him that are likely to vote. So to me,

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Speaker 3: when you when you assess this three ways Trump wins

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, One is Biden just has such

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Speaker 3: a physical debilitating thing and that happens like he has

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Speaker 3: a Mitch McConnell freezing, And what easily could happen. Buck

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Speaker 3: two is third party because I think it's very likely

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Speaker 3: that if it's Trump Biden, the third party element is

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Speaker 3: going to be impactful.

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Speaker 1: I think that hurts Biden more.

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Speaker 2: Again again on team we wanted, we want Republican to win.

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Speaker 1: So Trump's the nominee. We want Trump to win. That's

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Speaker 1: that's the team we're playing for here.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Jill Stein played a big role in twenty sixteen, which

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Speaker 2: people don't like to talk about you very much, and

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Speaker 2: by the Gisumaga was also helped a little bit, a

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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm just a little bit a little bit by Jill Stein.

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Speaker 3: And in twenty twenty, all of you knuckleheads out there

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Speaker 3: who voted the libertarian in Georgia, in Wisconsin and in

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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania and in Georgia, all of you Arizona, you turn

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Speaker 3: the election right. If every libertarian voter had shown up

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Speaker 3: and voted for the candidate who was more in favor

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Speaker 3: of freedom, which is Trump, Trump would have won comfortably.

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Speaker 3: But the third way to win is and I do

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Speaker 3: think this is going to happen. I think turnout overall

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four is going to be down compared

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Speaker 3: to twenty twenty because I think they were able with

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Speaker 3: COVID and mail in balloting and rigging the election everything

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Speaker 3: else to create this idea that Biden that you had

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Speaker 3: a choice between good and evil, between the devil who.

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Speaker 1: Was Trump, this is what the media created.

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Speaker 3: And Biden, who was this saint who was going to

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Speaker 3: ride in on a white horse and return America to normalcy.

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Speaker 3: And I think at this point, regardless of what your

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Speaker 3: impressions are in general of Biden, I think the idea

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Speaker 3: that he's brought America back to normalcy, that lie that

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Speaker 3: decency and trust and all of that is unfulfilled campaign promise.

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Speaker 1: So I think people will not show up at the

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Speaker 1: same level.

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Speaker 2: I again, this is good because we get different perspectives

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Speaker 2: on this, and we're extrapolating out of the future and

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Speaker 2: we're making predictions. And anybody who makes predictions in politics

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Speaker 2: is wrong a lot. I know that, But this is

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Speaker 2: my way of saying, I think you're going to see

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Speaker 2: in the election year, if Trump is the nominee, which

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Speaker 2: right now you know the Vegas odds would be heavily

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Speaker 2: favoring him, you will see the absolute pinnacle of anti

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Speaker 2: Trump sentiment in the election cycle. It will be even

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Speaker 2: crazier than it has ever been before because we're in

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Speaker 2: a post January sixth world with four criminal indictments outstanding

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Speaker 2: against him.

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Speaker 1: YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't to our people, to our audience, that all

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Speaker 2: sounds crazy, But just go around and look at the

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Speaker 2: people that are masking up again. There are a lot

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Speaker 2: of crazies on the other side everybody, and they still

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Speaker 2: believe what they believe, like they're still oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: COVID and threats to our democracy and all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think that they're planning on having the biggest anti

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Speaker 2: Trump turnout that they have ever had, much bigger than

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Speaker 2: in twin I.

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Speaker 3: Think they plan on it, Buck, I just don't know

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Speaker 3: that it works as well, because now that you've had

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Speaker 3: four years of Biden, I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they aren't change their mind. I

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Speaker 3: think you and I would agree changing minds on voters

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Speaker 3: is hard, and so the idea if you voted for

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Speaker 3: Biden in twenty twenty, the idea that you would flip

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Speaker 3: back to Trump in twenty four, I don't think there

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Speaker 3: are a lot of those people, or vice versa. If

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Speaker 3: you voted for Trump in twenty. I don't think you're

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Speaker 3: gonna flip to Biden in twenty four. I think that

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Speaker 3: they are going to be. The way that people will

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Speaker 3: register their disapproval is by not showing up at the

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Speaker 3: same level. And I think we could go from what

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty six million they said voted in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty. I think we could go back to one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty six million. I think there could be

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Speaker 3: ten million fewer voters. I really do.

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Speaker 1: If so, I'll go on the record here.

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Speaker 2: If it is a Trump Biden election, I think you

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Speaker 2: will see the biggest turnout you have ever seen an election.

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Speaker 2: You think it'll be bigger than twenty Absolutely yes, But.

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Speaker 1: A pin in this one, and this is where we

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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, guys, head Buck, welcome back, Claik great

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Speaker 2: up Saturday night. Is that gonna be a weekly thing?

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Speaker 3: it's going to become somewhat of a regular show, but

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Speaker 3: nothing is scheduled. It's kind of like a live pilot

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Speaker 3: to see how how it was going to do. So

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Speaker 3: for those who watched, that was fun. We did it

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Speaker 3: out of the big New York City studio. First time

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Speaker 3: out Kickshow nine years ago, Buck, I did a pilot

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Speaker 3: for Fox Sports. It never aired, so nine years later

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Speaker 3: in out Kickshow on Fox News.

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Speaker 2: But I appreciate that I did. I did a pilot

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Speaker 2: for CNN, believe it or not, in twenty fifteen with

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Speaker 2: Kelly Mcaninny.

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Speaker 1: And it never aired. Like they never ever aired yep, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So Roy, Yeah, thanks for that. But you had a

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Speaker 3: question for us. Oh well, Roy was going to ask

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Speaker 3: can struct can Trump still win if he's convicted? And

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Speaker 3: that is the that that is the I would say,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a trillion dollar question, buck, because I

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Speaker 3: think Democrats spent trillions of dollars they wouldn't otherwise have

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. I think he can, but I think

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Speaker 3: Democrats believe it makes it far less likely. And that's

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Speaker 3: why let's not pretend this is anything other than a

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Speaker 3: political calculus. That's why they're trying to get him convicted.

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Speaker 3: Are they really going to put him in a cell?

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Speaker 3: This is the thing that people keep asking me too.

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Speaker 3: If there is a conviction, how would that even work?

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Speaker 3: Like what does the Secret Service do? How do they

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Speaker 3: keep him safe in a you know?

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Speaker 2: And again the answer is anybody who tells you they

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Speaker 2: know one hundred percent, I think is getting ahead of

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Speaker 2: themselves because nobody really knows. But I do know this

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Speaker 2: like a sitcom. Yeah, Democrats want to do that. I

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Speaker 2: do think we need to all understand. If they can

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Speaker 2: lock Donald Trump in a cell, even for a few days,

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Speaker 2: ninety percent of them would go for it, no problem,