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Speaker 2: Harley below is the GM of Hill Country Patriot, our

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Speaker 2: affiliate in Currville. He's also the morning show host. We

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Speaker 3: Harley.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program sir.

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Speaker 4: Thank you Michael, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: And some been a busy.

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Speaker 4: Time since fourth of July start.

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Speaker 2: I can only imagine some folks may remember Harley. He

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Speaker 1: So welcome to your home audience. Harley.

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Speaker 2: Tell me when you realized there was a real problem

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Speaker 4: Okay, so Friday morning I got up to go on

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Speaker 4: So the death count last report last night was sixty eight,

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Speaker 4: Hopefully that'll help. Yeah, and I really appreciate you having

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Speaker 4: here by the way, Michael.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Harley bulou is Hill Country Patriot Radio Station our home

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Speaker 2: in the Hill Country. Harley, I got about a minute

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Speaker 2: I know you just finished a show and I know

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Speaker 2: because when all this is done, businesses have been devastated.

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Speaker 1: My it's I saw well.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how far you are from the Hunt store,

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Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing we made it through Harvey, and

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Speaker 2: you for one more segment. Harley Blue is a morning

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Speaker 2: show host general manager of Hill Country Patriot, our affiliate

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Speaker 5: Texas, The Michael Berry Show Michael Berry Show.

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Speaker 2: Harley Blue is the voice of Hill Country Patriot, our

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Speaker 1: And obviously at ground zero for what all is going.

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Speaker 2: On, Harley just watching. I mean, my primary connection to

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Speaker 1: But what is the local toll?

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Speaker 4: We don't even know, We're not sure. I talked to

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Speaker 4: And well, he's the executive director of the Texas Public

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Speaker 4: I was going to say that downtown. I was downtown

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Speaker 4: kind of attitude everybody's had in this community. Nobody in

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's amazing what you see in a moment like this.

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Speaker 2: Show, Low Toil, No Danger. There is a certain twisted

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Speaker 1: Especially when they told him my brother's dying. I should

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Speaker 7: He's just the kindest person I've ever met in my life,

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Speaker 7: and I'll will forever.

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Speaker 8: Look him no matter what.

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Speaker 7: The four stand together say. More needs to be implemented

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Speaker 7: to never let this happen again.

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Speaker 1: All four of you.

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Speaker 7: Do you guys think that flood sirens would have saved

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Speaker 7: lives in this situation?

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Speaker 1: Most likely? Yes, yes, they would have been I would

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Speaker 1: have been worried. What's that noise? What's that noise?

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Speaker 8: We would have least we want to go anywhere else?

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Speaker 8: We have so many places we could have gone that

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Speaker 8: were saved.

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Speaker 1: That story. Just man ksat TV had the story of

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Speaker 1: two young brothers.

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Speaker 2: My wife and I watched this about five times peers

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Speaker 2: and rough and boy talking about how they escaped the

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Speaker 2: waters after their cabin at Camp Lahunta in Hunt was flooded.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure most of you know this, but Camp

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Speaker 2: Mystic is a girls camp. Camp La Hunt is a

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Speaker 2: boys camp. You had families. In fact, there were two

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Speaker 2: fourteen year old twins. He's a boy, she's a girl.

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Speaker 2: She was at Mystic, he was at Lahunta. So you

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Speaker 2: have families because they're in that area that put the

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Speaker 2: girls here and the boys there. And apparently that's that's uh.

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Speaker 2: They're both very well attended and long tradition camps.

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Speaker 1: But here was the this is a good news story.

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Speaker 9: The cabins were flooding, and the walls were like they

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Speaker 9: they like they breaked out, and all the campers in

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Speaker 9: those cabins had to go up on the rafters and

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Speaker 9: they had to wait there until they could swim out.

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Speaker 3: And my brother here, he had to swim out of

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Speaker 3: his cabin.

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Speaker 1: Really, do you want of mind.

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Speaker 2: One moment?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 8: And so you might to swim out of your cabin,

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Speaker 8: can you tell me about that.

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Speaker 10: So the flood started getting bigger and it was going

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Speaker 10: up to we had bunk beds in our cabins and

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Speaker 10: it was going up to the top bunk and we

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Speaker 10: had one choice and we had to swim out of

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Speaker 10: our cabins.

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Speaker 3: What it was like. We woke up at Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: had to wake up at like four am? Yeah, what'd

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Speaker 3: you wake up to?

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Speaker 1: Say? People telling me to wake up?

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Speaker 9: Screaming I didn't fall asleep, Like I couldn't sleep because

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Speaker 9: of the lightning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people were screaming that there was a flood. There

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Speaker 3: was a lot of water on the floor. Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I was the first one awake, and basically one of

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Speaker 9: the other kids in my cabin. He woke up the counsel,

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Speaker 9: and the council was like what. And then all the

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Speaker 9: other campers woke.

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Speaker 8: Up to that.

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Speaker 3: What and they're like, oh my god, we're flooding.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and some cabins like flooded, flooded away, But nobody died.

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Speaker 3: No one died. We were thankful for that.

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Speaker 9: On the way here, we saw all of like the

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Speaker 9: other camps destroyed, like obliterated.

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Speaker 1: One of the.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the last rescue. There

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Speaker 2: were several uh. There were several rescues called in that

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Speaker 2: turned out not to be accurate, but one of the

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Speaker 2: last that came in that was that was accurate was

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Speaker 2: a uh oh, I won't be able to get to

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Speaker 2: that segment.

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Speaker 1: I don't have time. I'll get to that in the

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Speaker 1: next segment. It's a girl.

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Speaker 2: She was dragged twenty miles down the Guadeloupe, twenty miles

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Speaker 2: and they found her clinging to a cypress tree. She

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Speaker 2: is holding on for dear life, just out of the water,

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Speaker 2: twenty two years old. She went over four dams to

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Speaker 2: get there, so you know, that thing just beat her

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Speaker 2: to hell. She went over four dams and she managed

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Speaker 2: to get hold of a tree and pull herself up.

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Speaker 2: You can only imagine how dehydrated she had to be,

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Speaker 2: how exhausted she had to be, how frantic she had

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Speaker 2: to be. I mean, I guess we all imagine what

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Speaker 2: we would do to pull ourselves up out of the

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Speaker 2: water at that moment. Most people can't do one pull up.

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Speaker 2: One pull up, and that too, if you have time

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Speaker 2: to get your mind right and you're hydrated, most people

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Speaker 2: can't do one pull up. And you're not just doing

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Speaker 2: a pull up Jonathan Kim. You're having to pull yourself

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Speaker 2: out of floodwaters that are trying to keep you from

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Speaker 2: going up. They're trying to keep you going to the side,

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Speaker 2: and you've got to find some way, somehow to get

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Speaker 2: yourself up on that limb and then to hold on.

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Speaker 1: I saw one guy. I don't know if you saw

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Speaker 1: the chomon.

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Speaker 2: He was holding on like a bear, the way a

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Speaker 2: bear climbs up things on the telephone pole.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that? My wife said, hello, has he

532
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Speaker 1: been doing that? I don't know, probably a long time, she.

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Speaker 2: Said, I just wouldn't be able to hold on. I

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Speaker 2: just wouldn't be able to hold on. How long could

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Speaker 2: you hold on? You're dehydrated. And by the way, it's

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Speaker 2: not like you got to when all these things started.

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Speaker 2: You got to get your mind right and stretch, and

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Speaker 2: you know it's a good.

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Speaker 1: Time of day.

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Speaker 2: You've had your breakfa No, this happened in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the night. H one fourteen in the morning. You're

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Speaker 2: roused from bed. You are not at your best. The

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Speaker 2: will to live, to survive is so powerful, and you

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Speaker 2: see it in this in this case, it's incredible. And

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Speaker 2: the will to to save your child, save your loved one,