WEBVTT - MAL SPEAKS ON JOE BUDDEN PODCAST BREAK UP 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:01.200 Yo, yo yo. 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:05.840 Welcome to the Experience podcast where you have to have 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.319 the experience to be on the podcast. I am your 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:13.080 active and attractive hosts for another episode. You know, we 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:16.240 do everybody in the culture that has a voice that 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:20.239 does things at are high level. Today we got somebody 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.959 who was instrumental in what we know to be as 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.760 podcast right for our culture. We got the homeboy mab 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:28.320 what's going on? 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:31.479 I'm chilling? Man, what's good? Man? 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.960 You know, just finally all tapped in with you. Man, 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.080 got a chance to come down here to Atlanta, and 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:38.640 we've been trying to make it happen for a little minute. 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.280 Finally here, Man, I love it. I love it. I 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:43.640 need that love. Man, the game been good to me. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.120 And again, man, y'all, y'all all in the culture that 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.320 really have a voice that I thought was real from 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.839 the outside, always keep confirming to me that it is 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:53.880 real ones in the game. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.000 So I appreciate you stopping by no question. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.920 You know, first of all, Man, we want to get 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.040 into the business side of what it is you do. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.000 Right. Podcasting is a big arena. It's a new industry. 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:04.679 You know. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:09.000 I have a particular issue with some people that's partying 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.720 in the industry building process. We need to be working. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.360 When I look at you you down here in Atlanta 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.839 right now on tour. He just told me you sold 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:19.880 eight hundred tickets. Talk to me about that. 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:25.280 So, you know, Rory and myself knew Rory Podcast. Shout 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.520 out to my brother Rory. We just got back from 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:32.280 London last well earlier this week almost a lord with 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.320 seven hundred tickets sold out in London at the Earth Theater. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.679 Shout out to everybody in London that came out. It's 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.560 a beautiful night. Love over there was amazing, had an 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.080 amazing time. Yeah, man, we were just building. Man. We're 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:47.240 trying to just you know, build something. It's beautiful to 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.480 watch it grow, It's beautiful to employ you know, people 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.360 that have the same goals and visions and dreams and 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.840 you know, want to have fun doing this and just 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.240 have passion and respect for each other. Right, So yeah, 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.560 we building, man. We all having fun man, traveling the world. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.640 The business side of this game is off the left 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.840 side of people conversation, right, And those people that do 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.720 talk about the business side, I'm not sure I see 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.079 them executing in the same way that they communicating, right, 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.000 So When I look at y'all, I say, yo, them dudes, 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.200 I look at your brand, right, y'all been able to 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.639 brand it even as far as the orange that Rory used, 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.880 it's a theme, yeah, right, even the red head like 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.359 it's a theme. Right, there's a branding thing happening. On 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.920 top of that, there's a situation where y'all selling tickets, 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.000 selling merch right in each each of these facets, y'all 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.760 tend to have different designs, different approaches and just elevating 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.040 the way that podcasting is looking. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:48.600 How much of that is you and how much of 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:49.239 that is Rory? 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:54.360 It's you know, it's pretty much both of us, are 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:56.720 we all? You know, even on certain things on the 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.000 merch side that I come up with and my partner 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.760 out in LA and and G. You know, we all 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:04.880 collab on ideas and we just throw things at the 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.960 table sometimes and whatever sticks, whatever we think is dope, 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:09.920 you know, we run with. It doesn't matter you know 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.959 whose idea it was. If it's dope, it makes sense 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.960 for the brand and something that we think that people 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.480 were we and that they're gonna support, Like we just 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.120 put it out there. But creatively, Rory and myself just 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.560 you know pretty much is us, you know what I mean, 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.880 we have a whole team of people that pitching the 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.240 add things here and there, but they get our personality. 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.200 They know what we're trying to look like, what we're 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:32.000 trying to do, what we're trying to create. So it's 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:33.840 just like it's like a whole bunch of you know, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.160 people just hanging out in the dorm having fun. Yeah. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.000 Man, And it feels like that even when y'all left 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:44.160 the Joe Budden podcasts, right, even the approach of the 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.040 clip that came out when y'all was like we're looking 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.920 for work, that was just even a unique approach. Even 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.760 looking back at it, it's like y'all were early on 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:57.280 the skit type of y'all might be the only people 0:03:57.320 --> 0:04:00.480 doing that in podcasting from a creative state point, I 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.480 don't know. I mean, the White Boys do it like 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.600 Full Sin and Logan Paul and those guys. But from 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.480 our standpoint, yeah, maybe trailblazing in that. 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.000 That's something that we want to, you know, ultimately get 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:16.600 into his TV and film and in long form sketches 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.080 and things like that, just because we have so many 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.640 ideas and things that we take from real life situations, 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.800 which was what the the got fired skit was when 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.159 we first quote unquote got fired. So we decided to 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.640 take that and have some fun with it and create 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.240 something that uh, you know, we thought, we think, we 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.120 thought the people would like and they they loved it, 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.440 and that was all. You know, people reached out and 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:39.599 sayd who wrote that? Who wrote that? 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.080 It was like that. You know, we freestyled the whole thing. 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:42.920 None of that was written. 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.599 That was all just circumstantial, and you know, we just 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.080 came up with the circumstances and we just let the 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:48.640 camera run. 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:54.520 That's dope, That's super dope. Let's get into the departure 0:04:54.560 --> 0:05:00.560 of Joe butten podcast. Let's be clear, when did you 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.960 come into the Joe Buden pocket? What episode was? At 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.320 first it was the name was our name this podcast? 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.800 Like when did you arrive on the scene? 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:09.600 Do you remember? 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.880 Think it was like episode seventy seven maybe okay, yeah, yeah, 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.440 And so sweat equity was mentioned, right, blood sweating tears, 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.839 and your departure from there was an unfortunate one. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.200 And it was it was ugly. 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.920 It was fortunate, right, we just talked about it, you say, 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.440 you know, very fortunate, right, right. You told me when 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.880 I was out there smoking, you said, loan, I would 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.239 have been okay with helping home. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.520 Oh yeah, I've always That's all I've ever been. Uh, 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.960 you know, I've always wanted to be somebody that helped. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:40.760 Like if it's somebody you know, if I fuck with you, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.240 or if I feel like, you know, I believe in 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:44.840 what you're doing and I see your vision and I 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.960 feel like I can offer some assistance, even if it's not. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:48.320 I'm not. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.960 It's not about me getting nothing financially from it all 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.159 the time necessarily. I just feel like if I'm able 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:55.839 to which I think we should do in our culture 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:57.760 more anyway, It's like, yo, if I if I have 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.359 a plug somewhere connect somewhere where I can help you 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.760 elevate what you got going on and get you to 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.800 a next level somewhere, why not, because I would want 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.400 somebody to do the same for me. So, you know, 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.520 especially when it's you know, quote unquote friends, and I 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.479 feel like that goes without saying it's like, yeah, I 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.440 help you out, like I help you do whatever. Let's 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.320 let's do it's but we're gonna and we get to 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:16.760 have fun. 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:18.640 Why not? It's a win win situation. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:20.880 So yeah, it was all about me just you know, 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.200 getting in and trying to help elevate something and bring 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.640 some type of you know, energy into a situation where 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.120 it made for a complete a complete circle. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.679 And now do you have clarity because over the last 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.720 couple of months, that's been shots took by you by 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:43.000 Joe Budden just about what y'all perceived to be the truth. 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:47.279 You say that Joe stealing. He said that he's not stealing. 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.880 Of course you say, I'll come up that showed me 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.880 the books. Do it on your platform and then made 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:53.920 for great content. 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.680 Put it behind your paywall. Do what you will. 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.599 Let's not put listen man, you know, and I want 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.000 to be very this is not you know, I don't. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:02.440 I'm not. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.160 It's no ill feelings, it's no beef, it's no you know, 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:07.159 it's all love. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:08.039 Man. You know what I'm saying. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:09.440 Like I said, at one point, you know, we was 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.440 all real friends, and you know so that that doesn't 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.040 just go away, you know what I'm saying. So it's 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.520 not a beef thing. I think that everything happened for 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.320 a reason. Uh, we're very fortunately, very blessed Rory myself 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.160 to land where we landed and be able to do 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.920 what we're doing right now. So everything happens for a reason. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.800 It's just the unfortunate part of it is, you know 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.360 when just just just lies start to come into play 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:33.640 and you know, uh, trying to you know, tear somebody's 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.119 character apart and things like that. You know, the truth 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:38.960 is the truth, though, you know what I mean. And 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:43.080 as I always tell my brother Rory, you know, you know, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.120 because we have talks and he you know, Rory gets 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:46.640 into these moves where he's like, man, I don't want to. 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.440 Just keep going through this bullshit with this dude. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.840 And I'm just like, but Rory, when the truth is 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.520 on your side, everything is gonna be okay, man, you 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.040 know what I mean. So you know it is what 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.480 it is. But yeah, I mean, the truth is the truth. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.880 And you know, we where we were taking advantage of 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.360 and you know, we had money, a lot of money 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:07.160 stolen from us and taking from us, and it's fucked up. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.600 But you know, I mean, if that's the way it 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.240 had to happen for us to be in a situation 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:13.960 where in now, in the position we're in now in 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.800 our lives, and so be it. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.960 You don't fuck around and made you, taught you how 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:19.480 to fish. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.160 Yeah, I mean put you in a situation now where 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:23.440 you went and got the information. 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.800 The thing is, I always knew how to fish, right, 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.720 But you know sometimes I don't mind, you know, getting 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.800 on your boat and helping you, right, you know what 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.240 I mean. So you know if you felt like you know, 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.760 that was your boat and you know you're the big skipper, 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.160 and you know what I'm saying you, it's like. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.320 And so but in podcast and what it be in 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:44.040 a new industry, it's like we you know, I gotta 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:47.280 give Joe some credit in regards to he did kind 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:53.920 of make it not easier, but y'all together you lifted less, right, 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.439 And so what I'm saying is like this new industry, 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.679 nobody kind of understood how to move. Fortunately, whatever deal 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:05.000 he placed y'all in that y'all agreed on, he and 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.720 what you're saying is still wouldn't stick to the deal 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:09.760 that he had in place. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:10.280 Yeah. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.480 I think I think when we uh looking back, I 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:17.440 think when we signed our percentage agreement with each other, 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:22.560 I don't think that he anticipated the amount of money 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.480 that was going to be offered to us. So I 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:29.679 think once that money came into play, I think that 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:34.400 something inside of him just wasn't comfortable. And it's crazy 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.120 when you think about it, but I think something inside 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.800 of him was like he wasn't comfortable seeing us get 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.720 that money, you know what I mean. And it's fucked up, 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.560 But that happens with us a lot, man, Like it's 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.040 a deeper, whole, deeper you know, story behind that. It's 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.439 like in our culture, you know, we say we want 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.240 to see each other, eat and see each other, but 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.800 it's like, you know, somebody come in here with a 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.640 whole buffet. It's like, damn, I was gonna get these 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:01.360 niggas slice. I don't want to get these niggas. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.079 I want to dictate what they're able to do. You understand. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.559 And that's unfortunate, bro, because you can't win like that. Yeah, 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.960 you know, And and I believe that to see you 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.920 rad and Will Rory says so much about your character 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.880 just from me on the outside looking in, because I 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.200 see the years from you and Joe, I see you 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.640 know you on the Love and Hip Hop episodes and 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.600 see how far back y'all go, and it's like it 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:30.280 gotta be principal somewhere that he's standing on because what 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.200 else would make him rad with a dude that he 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:34.520 met alone the way. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.480 Yeah, it was just right as right and wrong as wrong. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.720 And I mean, you know, and you know the fans 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.960 and the supporters and listeners they have a very short 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.840 term memory. But just go back to you know, the 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.600 reason why you know we didn't show up the recorders 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.160 because you know, he told Rory not to cut, you 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.920 know what I'm saying. And I said, whoh you he 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.880 don't work for you. You can't tell him not to 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.800 come in, right like, And I'm definitely not gonna record 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:00.640 without him, right you know what I mean? 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:01.760 So just go back to that. 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.000 It's like, I'm that's just me though, Like if it's 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.080 something wrong, then let's fix it before any of us 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:09.839 move forward. But me and you are not going to 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:11.680 record without our brother, our partner. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.160 That was the deep moment I'm talking about. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.360 That was there right there, because in my opinion, you 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.880 hurt Joe because Joe felt like. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:26.400 Yo, Rory, but mile straight? But why? But why is it? 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.319 But and see that's the things that people don't know 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:29.000 behind the scenes. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.400 It was like, but why fuck Rory, why are you 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.280 why everybody ain't doing that. 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.760 Even when you look at Parks, some of the fans 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.840 to say that his position is my boat. 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.360 Everything right around me look. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.480 Good at and you know, and and Parks was you know, 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.840 I've known Parks for years, good good, good person, deep 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.840 deep inside he is a good person. I just think that, uh, 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.200 you know, the position that he may be in and 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.160 painted himself in the corner to where he don't really 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.520 have enough wiggle room to really get his ship off 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.439 and say what you want to say. But that's why 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.720 I tweeted a few weeks I said, Parks knows right 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.480 because part of me, I've known Parks for years. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:06.640 Man. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.080 For the most part, he's a good dude. I just 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.760 think that he's just a little into deep on the 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.640 business in and he has a lot of things tied 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.880 in with Joe business wise, so he can't really really 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.120 rattle that boat and shake the tree too much. But 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.600 he knows man. And those guys, all of those guys 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.160 over there, all those guys in the room, they know me. 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.360 They've known me for at least twelve years. They know 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.520 that I'm not I never did no sucking shit, no 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.560 foul shit. I've never you know, done no wax shit 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.600 to nobody, so they know my characters. So you know, 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.120 it's just that everybody got is kind of in the 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:38.800 fuck up just because they got to choose the side, 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.439 right and you know, they chose to ride with with 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.040 Homie and it's all good, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.200 Like I said, it's no beef, man, it's no you know, 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.080 this podcast and things, sometimes it get a little weird, 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.080 like everybody feel like it's competitive and it's beef, and 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.400 it's so I know what real beef looks like. This 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.760 is no beef and this shit, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.760 So it's like, you know, they had to choose a side, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.600 and you know, it's all good. Like I said, you know, 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.040 Rory and myself were able to pivot and land on 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.000 our feet and do what we do. And like I said, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.200 we just came back from showing almost seven hundred eight 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.200 hundred tickets in the UK. The same night Dave Chappelle 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:09.600 had a show. 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.760 By the way, it's dope. You know, that's dope. Shout 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:12.360 out to y'all. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.199 And you know what, when I was telling you when 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.640 y'all first, when it first happened, I was afraid for 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:20.520 y'all because I was thinking, like, and I got this 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.480 from b Marshall with the episode I just did with him, well, 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.280 I would have put y'all in a situation to over extend, 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:33.520 because I felt like immediately there was this thing in 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.760 the market between y'all two and he was trying to 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.760 battle to look like he was still in a good place, 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.040 and y'all was trying to say, Yo, we're on our own. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.160 And I was saying, spend the money, go get a building, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:45.840 go get a sick go get this, go get that, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.240 And y'all bubbled it right up, and the fan basic y'all, 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:51.959 y'all activated it and took it to the next level. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:53.520 Y'all did that shit. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.839 I mean, we just you know again, we don't want 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:56.480 to go fast. 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.040 We want to go right. We want to do it right. 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.760 We want to move right, and we have a vision 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.280 for ourselves and what we want to look like, and 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:04.760 we ultimately want to end up. And I think we're 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.200 doing a great job of doing that. You know, we're 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.719 not running out getting a guest We don't want to 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.680 be too heavily guest based every week, because then you 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.560 paint yourself on the corner with that when it's like, Okay, 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.080 we can't get a guest, So. 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:16.320 Who do we you know what I mean, who do we? 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:17.280 Who do we do now? 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.839 So we kind of want to just show people that 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.120 we can create something where we we basically wear the 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.840 talent and we rely on ourselves and our own personalities 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.320 to uh, to push this thing forward and then pulling 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.520 on you know, guests that we really have a personal 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.440 relationship with that we we kind of already have some 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.760 type of rapport with and you know, just do something 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.040 more creative aside from just sitting down talking like we 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.160 ultimately want to move into like a TV and film 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.960 space and uh, you know, do things on that level 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.080 because you know, we have the talent and ability to 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:49.880 do that, which is what we try to show with 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.560 some of our skits and promo pieces and things like that. 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.000 For the live shows. It'd be dope to. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.200 Let me just try to show a little just some 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:57.800 some some versatility and what we're doing. 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.880 Right, do you think you hurt? Oh? But do you 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:01.800 think now? 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.680 Let me ask you this, when did you start to 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.520 pivot towards Rory like hold on with something ain't right, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:08.280 that ain't cool? 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:09.560 When did when was that. 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:14.840 You know it, Rory and myself developed a relationship naturally 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:19.840 on the show throughout the years, but you know, in 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.680 that situation, the business and things like that, it was 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:28.200 it honestly became a thing where it was it fell 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.720 into that because we were on the same side of 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.600 the fight. Like we both we both were fighting for 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.120 the same thing. It was like, all right, we have this, 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:37.960 you know, this deal there. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.080 But I felt like he would have straightened you out 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:41.480 and not straightened Rory. 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.040 Real but even that, I wouldn't go for it. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.520 I know it, But I felt like that's what hurt him, 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.520 right when he said I remember a time when he said, 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.760 I never remember I never saw saw the day. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.840 Yeah, but he was talking about you. Yeah, he would. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.840 I'm telling you man, something about you. Yeah, stungin. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:02.920 Well, you know, we have a we had a relationship 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.440 for so many years, and. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:09.160 The dude is a white boy. But this principal, it's 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.240 all of this with me. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.760 I don't care how long I know you, I don't care. 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.680 You know, it's principal. It's integrity, is it's honor, you 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.280 know what I mean. So it's like right as right, 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.720 wrong is wrong, And I'm not gonna stand there and 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.280 allow somebody that because I looked at it like we're 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.120 a team. We all in this boat together, you know 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:27.840 what I mean, we stay on that stage together. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:29.880 So it's so many niggas that were to roll with 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.880 the nigga they knew for ten fifteen years only because 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.400 it's like, what do I got to lose? 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.200 Well, that's the se but that and again that's the 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.240 problem with us. It is it's like this. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.080 And I'm telling you salute from one real nigga to 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.760 another one, even if everything else I the winder. Just 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.680 I'm saying that. Look like from my perspective, it's principle 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.080 involved in that absolutely because it's my guy right here. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:54.240 I'm man. 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.520 I was with this guy when he will raggedly ragged 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:57.880 you I'm talking about. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:58.080 Man. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:16:59.760 If you go back and say I ain't never been 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:01.920 rad I come out of the street with some money, 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.000 you understand, no cap on that, no ten on it. 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.880 You go back some you say, damn home was kind 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.840 of it seemed fun now over there a little bit financially, 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:14.360 and that's cool because we all had to come from something. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.040 But y'all help lift that. How much weight do you 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:20.159 think you lifted over there one hundred percent of the 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.960 lifting with the Joe Buden Podcast up into your departure. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.480 How much do you say was your contribution. 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.440 I mean, I think I contributed a lot. I think 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.480 I lifted a lot. You go back to some of 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.840 the earlier episodes. I think that's when it started to 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.960 turn just because I think the personality, my personality and 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.560 my relationship with Joe was so unique and so honest, 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.320 and you know, I think that that helped turn it 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.119 into what it became. Even if you go back to 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.639 the Charlemagne episode, Charlamagne said it. He said, you know, 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.760 this thing didn't really pop until marg got it. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.600 Yeah, I got a squashit with you as Charlamagne. Man, 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:03.000 I know you got a little he been. He done right. 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.639 He doing right by me, man, Charlamagne, Listen, I know 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:06.000 he does. 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.280 He does things behind the scenes for people that you know, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.159 our salute and I respect. I just didn't, you know, 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.120 let me finish the point though, getting to that. So yeah, 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.560 I just think that the relationship that we had with 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.040 each other, right, because I still don't really like saying 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.520 his name, but the relationship that we had with each other, 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.240 I think it was so honest and so real and 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.120 it was dope to see and so many people could 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.639 relate to it. I think that helped lift it. With 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.240 him and Rory and a shoutout to Maurssa, what they 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.880 had I think was unique as well. I just think that, 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:40.040 you know, you insert somebody that had a real, uh relationship, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:41.879 the relationship that we had with each other, and you 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.480 put that on mic and on camera. I think people 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.560 gravitate towards that, the stories, the uh you know, holding 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:47.880 each other. 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.080 And he was intentional with I'll give him some credit 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:55.400 on this. He was intentional with the consumer facing when 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.440 it comes to you, right. He was intentional with saying, man, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.000 you just too cool. Man, you dress better than me. Man. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.560 He was intentional on camera with that. He's smart enough 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.199 to know what he's doing when he's doing. Now, what 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.720 he doesn't say says more to me about him than 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:12.200 what he does say on camera. 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:13.000 Right. 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.240 So he's somebody that's intentional with doing it. 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:17.639 And I'll give him a little. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:21.280 Credit with trying to have the consumers accept you in 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.040 a way where it's like this is my cool potum. Yeah, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.760 And it even translated to someone like a Charlemagne that 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.600 was like, you know what mal is that nigga too? 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.200 Now even though you that nigga, he was putting something 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:34.560 on it. 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.240 Yeah, no, and I you know, and and again it 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.919 was all it made for what it became exactly like 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:42.720 it was all part of it was a beautiful thing. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.960 I just think that ultimately, which happens a lot in 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:51.200 our community and on our culture, ego just killed and destroyed. 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.960 And it you know, it kills from within, it destroys 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:56.320 from within. And you know that's a fight that I 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:59.080 can't stand in front of. Ego is something that you 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.000 gotta battle with person. So I just step out the 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:02.960 way and I let you, you know, have that battle 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:04.000 with yourself, right. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:09.199 You know, even speaking about about the lifting thing, there 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.399 was a moment. Do you remember when he got fired 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:13.480 from Everyday Struggle? 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:18.240 Yeah? What was the atmosphere? Do you remember the atmosphere? Then? 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:24.280 Vaguely I remember, And again that's interesting because we only 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:28.359 got his side of the story, but I vaguely remember 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:30.520 he came in and was like, you know, we started 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.080 talking about it on the show, like you know, they 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.600 they wouldn't let the creators create and you know, they 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.199 won't let me smoke in the bathroom and it was 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.040 just a whole bunch and I was just like, okay, whatever, 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:41.639 you know. I mean, that wasn't my business. 0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:45.359 And you know me no understanding the information. And I 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.280 want the young creators and everybody watching this if you 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.639 know my brain, if you hear and you don't know 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.640 my brain. Were about information, right, We're about elevation. Anything 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.600 we speak about, we extract and experience from things that 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.960 we can explain so people can evolve. 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:02.920 That's all this is about. Right. 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:11.040 But with the everyday struggle situation, y'all gave him a blanket. 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.720 I know, you you know, let him go on his rants. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.960 He was talking and all of that, but it was 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:20.560 a situation where he needed y'all more than he can 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.399 explain in that moment. At that point, he had just 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.600 had a baby. He had just had this situation where 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.760 he thought he was getting further in the building and 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.920 then all of a sudden he thought he had leverage. 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.200 And that's something that happens with him. For some reason, 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.280 he missed places where he think his leverage. Is not 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.720 that he doesn't have leverage, there's just something happening with 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.840 his idea of leverage. I don't when he goes to 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.600 try to utilize what he think his leverage is. There's 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:53.040 something happening, right, and so with complex they let him go, 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.119 you know whatever in receipt of your email, because I've 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.320 been looking at some of the shit knowing that we 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.960 were gonna sit down, and when he came. 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:05.399 And sat down with y'all, that was home. He still 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:05.919 had that. 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.080 And I continue to let people know that it's hard 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:13.919 to do a podcast by yourself. It's damnar impossible. And 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.080 if it was possible, I think that he would have 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:16.879 done it by himself. 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:17.400 By now. 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.479 He had y'all to lean on in that moment, and 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:25.200 in my opinion, I just wanted I wonder did y'all 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:28.359 know how important y'all were to him in that moment 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:30.760 for him to be able to land right there with 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:34.800 his two homeboys comfortable way he has conversations week after 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:37.280 week after week and be able to talk to the 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:40.440 fans and create the narrative that he was able to create. 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.880 I mean, we thought we were pretty important, but now 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:46.639 you listen to the things that he says now about us, 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.600 we weren't that important. So you know, I mean again, man, 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:52.919 you know, we just try to play our part. And 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:55.919 as far as being friends in that moment, like you know, 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.679 it started the whole podcasting thing for us again, it 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:01.680 started as therapy. It was therapeutic for us to get 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.000 to get together once and twice a week and just 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:05.280 kick it and talk about shit. 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:07.199 You know. 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:10.720 But when money comes into play, man, it changes you know, 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:14.880 so many things. It's amazing how many things and emotions 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.400 just change and sway because. 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.840 Money is on the table now. But for me, it didn't. 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:24.040 You know, obviously I didn't care about money. It was 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:28.399 all about just the principles and integrity. And you know, 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.359 people see, oh, if it wasn't about the money, then 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.320 why you keep asking to see the counting. And it's like, 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.480 because we're trying to just show, like fam, we know 0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:40.280 we were being stolen from and this is why we 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:42.320 chose to say, yo, just show the accountant. 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:44.520 Let's make it correct and move forward, right. 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.359 And I want people to understand that if Joe was 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:54.159 to sue, he would expose what needs to be like 0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:59.000 that would force a discovery, yeah, which the accountant would 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:00.200 have to come into play. 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.840 Oh yeah, I mean he know, he he he can't sue. 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:06.600 He can't sue us. It's impossible. 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.639 He he knows the real and the people, the people 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:13.080 that know him know the real They know his business 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:16.360 practices throughout the years. They know that Maul has never 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.800 sat down and you know, sat on the mic and 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.040 talked bad about anybody, you know what I mean. It's 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:22.840 definitely not somebody that I looked at as a friend. 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.440 Like I hate that you google my name and it 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:26.920 come that type of shit comes up, you know. 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:28.680 I mean, I don't. I don't. I never wanted to 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:29.480 be a party shit like that. 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.639 But we know that, you know, we built something that 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.160 was big in the culture, and you know, it ended 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.159 the way it did. But like I said, it was 0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.600 a fortunate situation for Rory myself because we landed and 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.959 ownership and and just you know, just respect. It's so 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:48.520 it's just so much respect, you know, like, uh, the 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:52.080 people we work with, you know, my guy edit videographer, 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.400 my boss and my boy. Like I'm not your boss man, partners. 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:57.480 I need you just as much as you need me, 0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:58.760 you know what I mean. Like I don't even like 0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.520 walking around with that boss title, Like I don't. 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:01.880 I don't. 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.040 I don't need that. Like I want everybody to feel 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:05.720 like they could come to me. They could talk to 0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:07.400 me whenever they want. You have my number. You can 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.280 call me any time of the day if you have 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.520 something on your mind, if you have something creatively you 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.040 want to throw on the table. It doesn't matter if 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:15.920 you're on camera or not. If you're in this room 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.639 and you're you're a part of this, this, this, this, 0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:20.960 this brain trust in this, in this you know this 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.919 this thing we building. Like your opinion matters. You're in 0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:26.080 this room for a reason. So I think you create 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.560 that space for people and it allows for so many 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.840 more ideas and positive energy to flow in and to 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:33.040 feed something beautiful. 0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:33.640 You know what I mean. 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.359 Did you did you believe at the beginning that you 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:38.440 had an ownership deal or a partnership. 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:43.480 No, we had a percentage agreement. Any money that came 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.720 in for the podcast we split. 0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:49.720 Was that understood from the beginning or was ownership ever thought? 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.280 Did you ever think that you owned a part of 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.440 it or did you always think this was a percentage 0:25:56.080 --> 0:25:57.320 based type of situation. 0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.600 It was a percentage based it was it was some 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.560 excuse me for not to cut you off. 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.320 Some people try to say that you guys thought that 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:06.600 you owned some of it. 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.639 No, no, no, no, no, we knew exactly what it was. 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:12.159 And again that's because of the creatives. It's it's we 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:16.680 had a contract in place before any money came into play, 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:21.359 and we and Rory myself took a very humble percentage 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:25.560 of very uh you know, we understood we're not you know, 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.680 we don't have a name, and we weren't artists and 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.400 rappers and things like that. So we took our very 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.040 humble percentage and proceeded to move forward and grow it 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.679 until a deal came across the table that you know, 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:40.359 ultimately was signed. Again, I just think that that money 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.720 was something that you know, I was never thought about 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.080 coming into play, and when it did, I don't think 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:49.240 that he was happy splitting that with us the way 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:52.280 that it was agreed upon. So you know, it happened, 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.440 It fell aparton, It is what it is. 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:56.320 You know, I believe. 0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.360 Joe camp Pod in the same way right, I think 0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.679 Ish doesn't allow Joe and I have a relationship with 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.080 is shut out the Ish, right, got a relationship with 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.399 him over there. He reaches out to me, we speak sometimes, 0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:12.640 but I don't believe he can part in the same way. 0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:12.920 I think. 0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:16.000 I think Ish kind of doesn't give him the isolation 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.200 type of vibe that you guys gave, right. I think 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:23.840 you guys understand podcasts, especially the way that he podcasts, 0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.960 not necessarily that everything he says is gonna be the truth. 0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.400 Sometimes he's getting into a theatric bag and he's doing 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.520 this little one too. Now, you did say that when 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.959 he got into some of them conversations, you guys were 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:42.240 sitting back like, hold on, we've been on you about 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.000 some of these things that you explaining to the public. 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.280 Yeah, see it it was so many things. Like a 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:51.440 lot of people think that that just happened. When it happened, 0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.280 and that was years. That was years of us trying 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.399 to That was like a year and a half almost 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.040 two years of us trying to get that right and 0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:00.760 get the business right. So you know, when those rants 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.320 were happening, Uh, you go back and look at some 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.760 of those and you know, I'm sitting here being quiet 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.040 because I'm like, you know, people were always telling themselves 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:11.959 if you let them talk them Yeah, So I did 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.520 a lot of listening, and you know, and we we 0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:19.000 were careful because we were creating or what we thought 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.639 was we were creating was something that was built on 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.880 honor and principle and to know what we were dealing 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:30.320 with internally, we thought that if the public found out, 0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:33.399 it's like, well, wait, how y'all sitting here preaching about 0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.280 you know, honor and respect and keeping it real and 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.520 not you know, getting sucked off and we and now 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.880 we're going through the bullshit. So it was hard to 0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.400 kind of sit here and you know, but just like, okay, 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.880 you know, just let the rent happen and you know, 0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:49.160 whatever whatever for the sake of the message getting out 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.280 there and you know, the people receiving the message, and 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.360 we didn't want to put our personal thing in the 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.280 way of that. But that was the reason for a 0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:59.040 lot of those you know, just let happen. Yeah, because 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:03.160 it was like, you know, keep talking, because I'm also 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.280 receiving information here too in the moment, you know what 0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:06.600 I mean. 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.680 So and this is the thing, right, I'm looking at 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:13.080 it and me just having supreme game. I'm sitting back 0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:17.800 and saying, see, sometimes you sometimes you cuss, you cuss 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:22.200 at your mother and your girlfriend here And she said, 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:23.360 oh my god. 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.160 Yeah, look I he talked to his mother. 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:29.400 Yeah, And so when you saying things like yo, I 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.960 left complex because Spotify brought in a check and they 0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:34.520 didn't want to give the people on. 0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.320 The show a piece of the check. 0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.160 When we're the reason Spotify brought the check and then 0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.960 you got people on your show it's saying, hey, what's 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:43.080 going on with the check? 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:47.240 Because Spotify cut a check. It's the same, it's the 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:47.720 same thing. 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.680 Yeah, It's like, it's funny how you turn into the 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:52.240 same people that were talking about. 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:55.320 But it's almost like in his brain. And that's why 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.360 I got to ask him. He needs some he needs 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.480 some real questions asked to him without the wiggle room. 0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:02.800 Right. Oh, he's gonna spend. 0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.520 He's gonna try to He's gonna try to spend, try 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.960 to spend. He's gonna try to good he's good at spending. 0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.240 He gonna try to because I think he talks to 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:12.920 you know, he has this thing where he talks to 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.640 grown men, and I think he think he talking to 0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.040 women that he's dating. You know, you can spend a 0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.560 woman that you date around her, but when you're talking 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.560 to real dudes, and it don't work. And that's and 0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.440 that's it's not gonna work with me. 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.440 So sometimes when when you know he would he would 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:32.080 get in those modes talking about that. 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:33.400 I always looked at y'all. 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.959 Let's kind of speak on academics, do y'all do you 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.720 think that he was feeding information to act? 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.240 Of course, man, you know, and I don't. I don't 0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:46.760 talk about that, dude, but you know, I just you 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.960 know again, this this, this this media podcast thing is 0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.560 weird man, because these dudes will start talking about you 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.520 talking crazy and you never even they don't. 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.640 You don't even know these dudes. That's what I'm like. 0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:01.000 I'm like, who I you know what I mean, I'm 0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:04.360 not I'm not gonna get into right back and forth because. 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:06.120 It's like they got too much time on it here 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:07.200 and I can't do that. 0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:08.920 I don't do that. And it's like, you know, you 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.240 I've never seen these dudes anywhere outside I don't know. 0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.080 And then they get online and then get on their 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.960 platforms and start talking crazy and it's just like I 0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.000 don't even know how to do that, Like I can't 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:22.680 because I don't know you you know what I mean. 0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.280 So I can't. I can't sit on here and spew 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.760 that type of crazy talk when I've never even I 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:27.680 don't even know how to do that. 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.480 It's almost like even with his situation with Rory, it's 0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.920 almost like he was leaving you out of it too. 0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.720 It's almost he was bringing you in it after a 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.400 certain part. But there was a moment where it's almost 0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:43.040 like everybody was against Rory and they was trying to 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.360 kind of leave ma all out. But Mal was looking 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.080 for why fuck act. 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:49.520 With what his situation is. 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.240 But the Joe thing, you were trying to understand, why 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.720 is you what's happening? And then like you said, we 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:59.120 both on the same side creatively to try to say 0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.240 you already get the big piece of chicken. 0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:04.440 Yeah, we partners. Man, You know you can't tell your 0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.080 partner again partners. We don't work for nobody. We wearing employees. 0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.320 We were business partners. We have a contract agreement, we 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.440 have a percentage based agreement. 0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:14.480 We were partners. 0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.320 So it's like you tell your partner don't come, don't 0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:20.280 come to work, You at least got to consult with 0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.040 the other partner first, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:24.840 if me and you and another home, you got to 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.200 show together and then you text him and say you 0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:28.080 don't come into work. 0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:30.720 Me and you supposed to have that talk before you. 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.120 You should be like, y I feel like he shouldn't 0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.640 come in for a couple of weeks whatever it may be. 0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:39.200 We need to have a talk first. You can't I 0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.640 view you as a partner. That's why I think he 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.160 didn't view y'all as partner. 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.800 Of course he didn't. It's his name is the podcast. 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.400 When he changed the name, what was y'all thinking? Then 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.320 we knew what it was. That was deep, that was ego. 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:55.720 But that's what I'm saying. And you know what, people 0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:57.440 got to remind the tapes and go back and look 0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.320 at the film. It's ego. But even in the missed 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.880 that we weren't tripping because we had this contract in place, 0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:05.400 and we're like, all right, it don't matter. 0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:06.800 You can call it whatever you want. 0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.160 Right this contract is in place, and whatever money comes in, 0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:11.840 this is the percentage that I get. 0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:13.520 This is the percentage that he gets. 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.520 So you can call it whatever you want. You can 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.120 dress it up however you want to dress it up. 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.000 It doesn't matter to us. Whatever comes across that table. 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.160 This is my cut, this is his cut, that's your cut. 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.440 You understand what I'm saying, And that's how we rolled 0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:29.320 and move forward. But you know, when you start realizing 0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:34.880 that everything is starting to look like a salary. It's like, oh, yeah, 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:36.240 I don't know salary. 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:37.800 Right, they keeping you at the same number. 0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:39.880 And then okay, so I see what you saying, because 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.400 he's always saying that, yo, I paid them this number 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.440 even though the company didn't earn that number, but I 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.560 kept that number there because I pulled money from here, there, 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.040 and everywhere to keep that number. That y'all saying, now, 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:54.920 you slick put us on a salary. It's a salary, bro, Like, 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.000 come on, we're not doing that. 0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.400 That's a good game salary, like I'm not and again, 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:01.840 a good game. He tried it, that's good game. But 0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.400 it's like it's not gonna work with Like, I'm chill, 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.840 I'm cool, laid back, notionally, I'm not stupid. 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:08.960 Though I didn't peep that. 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:12.360 I'm gonna watch you. I'm very observing. I see everything. 0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:13.120 You know. 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.480 We just sold sixteen hundred tickets and I'm getting the 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:17.560 same as when we sell eight hundred tickets. 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:19.360 That's a salary. 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.680 Home, Yeah, it's definitely what it sounds salary. 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:25.239 And then and then when we again, there was so 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.719 many conversations of us trying to make it right because. 0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.320 We knew what we had, we knew what we were building. 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:33.279 And you know, I remember one conversation we had and 0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:34.839 you know, he looked at me and Rory and he's 0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:36.319 outside talking and we got into it. 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:36.640 One day. 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:38.759 He was like, yeah, you know, after this contract is up, 0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.520 I'm gonna put you all on the salary. And me 0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:43.200 and Roy looked at each other, like, who you talking 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:47.719 to put on a salary? But that's what he always wanted, 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.600 which is what he has now. You know, you're now 0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:56.040 now and they doing more work. I mean, I love parks, man, 0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.840 you know, I mean I love parks, you know, And 0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.799 it's just you know, have you watched the show, no 0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:06.399 at all. No, have you seen any clips. Only when 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.600 they're talking about me, only when he has something to 0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:09.080 say about it. 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.560 Right right, and they don't usually talking now you do 0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:15.520 see it's kind of push back, like just show the numbers, listen, man, 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.680 it knows like. 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.319 And that's my thing, man, you know, and I don't 0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:21.800 I don't want to, you know, I don't want to 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:23.239 disrupt anything that got over there. 0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:24.879 But you know, the. 0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:27.600 People gonna see eventually, and then you know, it's just 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.000 you know, it's just fucked up man, because you know, 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.759 I know those guys feel like like they can't you know, 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.600 kick it with me. You know they are saw ice 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.200 them follow me on social media like that, Beau. 0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:45.359 You know it's like, you know, I get it. Man, 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:51.839 listen he being lowyer to the big home man. You know, 0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.200 I listen. I'm not I'm not mad at it. 0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.040 Man, It's just you know, they know the real and 0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:01.239 that's the thing that you know, you know, aside from 0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:04.520 a podcast and you know now people watching you and 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:08.000 following in social media. I'm talking about let's, you know, 0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:10.719 go back to them days in Jersey, go back to them. 0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.200 You know, they know me and they know him, and 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.200 they know the things they've been through with him. None 0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.839 of them never been through nothing with me. Fucked up ship. 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:22.080 So it's like right right right, like we ain't gotta 0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:23.719 I ain't gotta do that, like you know, it's it 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.319 just is what it is. And like I said, you know, 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.160 I thank him for doing that. I thank him for 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.520 you know, fucking us over and and doing. 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.279 What make us go get our own Jersey. Man. 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.920 Oh man, it was beautiful, like you know, he he 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:39.680 it was you know, it was a hat trick. 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.640 You know what I'm saying, Like I respect it. You know. 0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.719 It's like, you know, you did what you had to do, 0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.719 and that was part of the story and part of 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.719 the journey. Like every nothing, nothing is an accident. You know, 0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.160 everything has its has its meaning, everything has its purpose. 0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.960 So you know, I look at that now and I'm like, oh, Ship, 0:36:57.000 --> 0:36:57.960 If you don't do that. 0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.600 I don't have my own jersey. Yeah. Made me go 0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:01.759 by the team. Yeah. 0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:03.800 And like I said, I was happy setting the screen. 0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:06.160 I knew I could get thirty if I want to 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:10.120 go get thirty. I knew I could go get there. 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.080 I could go get thirty. But if you if you hot, 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:18.239 I'm feeding you because I don't. It's no ego and 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.640 play with me. Sure we get the w in the 0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.840 locker room. That's all I give a fuck about. I 0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:24.760 don't care about all that other shit is ego. 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:25.040 Ship. 0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.360 I always got attention from girls, I always got respect 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:29.440 from niggas and the streets home. 0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:29.959 I don't. 0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:32.919 So it's it's you know, I don't. It's like, yo, listen, 0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:34.480 we building something with a team. 0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:36.360 Let's be a team for sure. 0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:40.000 When you rewind the tape, like you say, the Patreon 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:44.000 deal comes to mind. Y'all had just turned down the 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.720 Spotify deal and then all of a sudden, he shows 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:52.080 up with a Patreon deal that has some name on 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.560 it that I don't even hear him, not mentioned anymore, 0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:59.440 but where he had took the podcast to Patreon. You 0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.360 didn't clap bet that moment. There's a there's a video 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.760 going around when he you know, Rory, see Rory gave 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.239 into his his his feelings in that moment just to. 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:13.480 Keep Rory has a better poker face. Yeah, he was like, 0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:14.640 now I'm happy for you, bro. 0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:18.920 You know you was like yeah, because again it was 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.960 so much shit going on behind the scenes. 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:25.560 It was done then, Oh it was for me. For me, 0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:26.520 it was done. 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.279 You know when he told Rory not to come in, 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.600 and you know that bothered me. 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:33.879 Because it's like you was clean on how he looked 0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:34.160 at it. 0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:36.759 Yeah, and it was like, yo, but he don't work 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.600 for you, like we partners in it. And then, like 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.560 I said, even if you have an issue with something 0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.319 Rory said or did, you should talk to me first 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.960 about it and then let's let's like all sit down together, 0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:50.319 you know. And then when we had a talk that 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.399 we had and you know, he said the things he said, 0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.600 and then you know he told me, oh, it's none 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.520 of your it's none of your business, and it's none 0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.719 of my big I paid the taxes on. 0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:05.640 It, and at one moment I'm sitting behind the costs. 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.240 And the other moment it ain't none of my business. 0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:08.680 So it's like rough to deal with. 0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.040 And this is what I'm saying, a lot of the 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.480 listeners they lose sight of these things because you know, 0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.480 he's good at spending and throwing things at you, and 0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:16.240 you can't really keep up with everything he's saying. 0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.239 My thing is just reminded tapes and listen. Right, let's 0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:20.640 talk about their Patreon moment. 0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.799 So you're saying you didn't kind of you understood that 0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:25.439 there was a fifty two fake out. 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:28.440 Not only it wasn't that there was a fifty two 0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:32.040 fake out. It was Okay, here's another deal with more 0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.719 money coming into the show that we can and we 0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:36.400 still don't have accounting. 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:39.600 That's what that was. 0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:43.319 So when he says he showed us the accounting, it's like, yeah, 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:47.320 but you showed us an Excel spreadsheet that your accounting 0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.640 didn't send, your manager sent, because had your accountant sent 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:54.000 that your account would have lost his accountant license because 0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:56.080 there was one hundred and forty some thousand dollars quote 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.359 unquote mistake. I said, who We didn't even know who 0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:01.960 that company was, Like what company is that we paid 0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:05.600 this money out to? And his responsible or that was 0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:07.600 a mistake. So we said, okay, one hundred and forty 0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.120 thousand dollars steak. I don't know no account that makes 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.080 a mistake that big, but okay, corrected and sent back 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:16.160 to the correct one. We never got another one after that. 0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.920 He try to add, like this, taxes, Come. 0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.919 On, man, show the taxes. See because like I said, 0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:26.200 you could you could play games, you could cook the 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:30.359 books easy. You can't cook the book expenses. You can't 0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:33.440 do that with taxes. So you know, you know again, 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.799 like I said, we're not tripping because and. 0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:38.120 This is about the information. 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:41.359 The reason why, the reason why we're speaking about it 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.960 is because in this space, right, they have these percentage 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.200 based deals. They have these deals in place where you 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.839 can go get a percentage base. Hey, y'all don't own this, 0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:54.640 but every million that comes in we busted down seven 0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:57.600 hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, right, And so we have 0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:00.440 to learn about how y'all navigated through this, what the 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.279 mistakes was, what with the ends and outs are, and 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.440 how y'all took that information to do what it is 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.799 y'all doing now, because not only did y'all leave this 0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:12.640 situation with youll brands in yall hand y'all win and 0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:15.640 evolved those into the new Rory and Mom's show and 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.040 took that on the road and brought that into skits 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:21.000 and took that into getting to deal with serious and 0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.160 and that's what I'm saying. I just want the fans 0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:26.240 to know that this is never about sitting around going 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.160 into the depths of this to child. 0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:30.640 I just want people to be very clear and and 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.480 and business right, you know. And I want my mistakes 0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:39.000 and my situations to be somebody's learning curve and somebody's 0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:41.840 you know, elevation Like okay, I can't do that. And 0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.000 if you know, you and your your team or you 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.719 got a crew and y'all doing business together, like you know, 0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.720 just just make sure everything is open on the table 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:52.759 and everybody has access to the to the numbers and 0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.759 the accounting you know, where they can go in and check. 0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.919 Cause we that's what we kept fighting for and let's 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.400 just get a quick book and let's we all have 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:00.920 access to it. We can go in and see it 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.200 whenever we want. These are all things that we brought 0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.239 to the table, and you know, everything was frowned upon. 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:08.440 Everything was like, nah, you know, it's just like but 0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:11.479 we're partners, so why can't we just have a quick 0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:13.200 book to where we can see the numbers. 0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:15.160 That's how it should be. That's how it should be. 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.600 Like with me and Rory, we bro we have zero 0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:24.880 money issues. Like I'm talking about zero, Like it's crazy 0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:27.160 because you know, when you're in a room with somebody 0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.279 and you in business with somebody, they'll sometimes make it 0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:32.759 seem like some things are so impossible and it's like 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:33.839 stop them. 0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:36.640 We got to talk about these companies because they do that. 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.600 It's not your listen when people start moving like that, 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.680 that's a play doing that, and that's that. 0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:45.239 Be very clear about that. 0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.480 Like it's because, like I said, Rory myself now being 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.720 in business with each other and having our own media company. 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:54.520 Like yeah, we'll fly y'all, we'll pay for this, we'll 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:54.920 do that. 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:59.240 It's nothing, Bro, it's the most it's just so simple. 0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.400 And we we throw bullshit into the game and we 0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.960 create issues where there are no issues. And it's amazing 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:08.560 to me the amount of things that we'll create and 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:12.000 fuck up a beautiful thing. And it's like why, And 0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:14.759 then when you see the why, you like, was it 0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:15.960 worth it? 0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:16.680 Like was that? 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.640 Like I think back to where we were headed, and 0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:23.560 he would have had if that wouldn't have happened, he 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:27.880 would have had the one hundred men bro listen, man, that's. 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:29.759 If he would have been able to not only keep 0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.040 that and then do what he did with the girls. 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:35.680 And because that's another thing, people that hurt him so bad. 0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:42.600 But what happened to the network? I'm just asking you 0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:45.200 what happened that hurt him so bad? 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.359 Talk to talk to the people, Talk to the talk 0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:50.680 to the ladies. Talk to the ladies, asking him what happened, 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:52.520 Ask him what type of contracts he put on the 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.400 table for them, because I don't want people to think that, 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:56.920 you know, this is the thing where I'm trying to 0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:58.360 keep this going. Like I said, I'm kicking with you 0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.760 to give information about all other creators that's coming up, right, 0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.520 like you know, get your business right now, keep it together. 0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.320 And know what it looked like you know what I 0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.120 sounded like when you're getting fucked. What know, when you 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.640 win a percentage based contract but can't get to count, 0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:12.760 that might be something. 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.960 It's something there, it's a reason why you're not getting 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:15.160 out of. 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.120 You, you know what I'm saying. So that's what this is about. 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:20.360 But but you know, I think it's just man, this 0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.360 shit is for me is weird. I never hear y'all 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:28.320 speak about why y'all didn't start another podcast. Now, before 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:31.359 we go there, let's talk about the network. Okay, the 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:35.680 network situation. If that I think that y'all even hurts 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.960 so bad as far as like image wise and and 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:45.080 and uh far as trust and equity that people had 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:49.600 in him and his whole just situation. You know, because 0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:52.600 he was talked, that created talking. He was rilling people up. 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:57.120 People thought y'all were being quiet because y'all agreed. People 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.759 didn't know y'all was being quiet because we asking for 0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:04.120 the things that you talking about from you right right. 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.680 People didn't know that. And so people took y'all being 0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.600 quiet as they letting him get the creative talk off 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:13.200 because he's top creator. But that wasn't what it was. 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:15.520 But the fans received it that way when he went 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:18.920 it at Charlemagne, y'all cleared out twenty thirty minutes and 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.160 you don't own that, and I own this and you 0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:22.360 worked for I harden. 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.480 But see that back to the Charlamagne thing, and that's 0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:27.200 why I had an issue. And this again love Charlemagne. 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:30.280 I think he's amazing in our culture, some amazing things. 0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.600 But the reason I had an issue with Charlemagne was 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:39.799 because when Old Boy went up there to promote the 0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.759 show that he had on Revolt at the time, they 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.879 kept talking about the podcast deal, like they just wanted 0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:47.440 to know how much the deal was just that and 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:51.479 the third and Charlemagne said, oh, yeah, well I think 0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:56.040 that they should have only been getting this amount. He 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:57.240 said that on the show. 0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:58.720 They should only be getting this amount. 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:00.600 Ye're like, he spoke on how much more I should 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:07.879 be receiving. But add that to the fact that now 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:13.160 we never got the accounting. So you see how words 0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:16.360 become powerful, especially when it becomes comes from figures in 0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:17.040 the culture that. 0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:21.000 Have a lot. Okay, okay, I get it. So it's like, 0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:21.840 while you. 0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:24.839 Will that you were fighting to get your real worth. 0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:28.440 It's like, Homie, I'm and you justifying that he chumping me. 0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:30.120 I see. 0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:37.520 You're giving validation to somebody trying to steal. And now 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.680 you're putting what you think I should you putting what 0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:41.919 you think my price is on me like we're from 0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.200 the streets. You can't tell me what I No matter 0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:45.919 how much I buy my work from you, it don't 0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:47.239 what I sell it for it you ain't got nothing 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:51.319 to do with you as long as so. Now how 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:53.640 you telling somebody what you think they should be given 0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.640 what my cut is? And then now fast forward, I 0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:59.160 can't even get accounting, so. 0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:03.080 I'm fighting for my real value. Now, then you tell. 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:04.399 A voice in the cold. 0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:06.560 Now I don't left voice. You got a company you 0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:09.359 cutting checks? So they said, well another bout say, y'all 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:11.560 owner should be getting this much. So I'm justified in 0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:12.080 what I'm doing. 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:13.759 Then I'm gonna go deeper than that. I don't know 0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:16.000 what you're saying behind closed doors. If my name come 0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:17.120 up in those rooms now. 0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:20.080 Right, I don't know if my name they didn't know 0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:21.960 you were fighting for they man. 0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.279 And that's why I'm not mad at Charlamagne. But I 0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:26.920 felt some type of way about that because it was 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.880 like Nigga I'm the new dude on the block. 0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:31.680 I get it. I'm humble. I don't you know what 0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:33.719 I'm saying. I don't. Okay, fine, but. 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.200 For you to say that, first of all, you don't 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:39.279 never speak on what you think another man should be making. 0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:41.799 Number one, let the girls do that, right. 0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:46.120 Number two, it's like, I don't know if my name 0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:48.400 come up behind those doors in them buildings now in 0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.239 our heart and somebody say, yo, the mall dude from 0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.479 the from the podcast, Yo, what you think? I don't 0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:54.600 know what you're saying now. 0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:56.080 Yo. 0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:57.279 We think we want to give him a show. We 0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.080 think we think about giving them like four million. I 0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:00.560 don't give them a hundred. 0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:04.160 Thousand, right, Yeah, that'll make you think that. 0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:08.000 If you'll say that on Mike on the Breakfast, that'll 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:08.239 make you. 0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:10.200 You'll say that behind closed doors for. 0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:12.239 Sure, that'll make you. So that's why I felt the 0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:14.600 way towards him. But you know that ship is over it, man, 0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:14.920 I'm not. 0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:17.919 Yeah, Charlemagne does like I said, Man, I know he's 0:48:17.960 --> 0:48:18.960 disappointed in Joe. 0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:20.600 Even when we talk about. 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:21.680 The next was gonna happen. 0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:22.640 He said it when he was on. 0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:24.560 He knew y'all was gonna happen. But he didn't know 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.160 he was gonna turn on him. See, you gotta remember, 0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:29.359 Joe went and got Charlemagne too. 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.680 He proceeds. I know how Joe got his audience. 0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:34.600 Some of that come from asks, some of that come 0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.719 from y'all, some of that come from Charlemagne. They all 0:48:37.760 --> 0:48:40.160 gave him access to the audience that he won't what 0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:43.759 it looks like giving anyone else access to. So when 0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:45.879 he went and got Charlemagne, you gotta remember to pull 0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:50.359 up happened? Who was there? You got Casanova. I don't 0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:54.000 hear brus say free Casanova. Respectfully, he went and got 0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.600 Casanova because he was into it with Takashi. You gotta 0:48:56.640 --> 0:49:00.560 rewind what's happening right when he got That's an over 0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:03.600 may though. These are people who were on the first 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:07.000 little pull up thing. Charlemagne was the biggest name right 0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.759 that was giving you. He was stamping you, like when 0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:11.759 you would do your end of the year, Charlemagne to 0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:12.399 come do it. 0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:14.879 This was helping your brand, bro, This was. 0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:18.560 Helping you absolutely. And I think that Charlemagne didn't think that. Damn, 0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:22.080 he didn't start shooting at me too. He knew that 0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:25.520 he'll keep fucking with marble. Rory, you your head Gray. 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.440 It's like he felt that everybody felt that you. He 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:33.400 looked at you in a different light. He felt he 0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:34.560 felt different about. 0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:37.359 It because our relationship was different, you know what I mean, 0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:39.879 Like it was a it was a lot of years there, 0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:41.879 and you know, he could say what do you want 0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:45.120 about it now? And you know certain things I'm hearing 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:46.960 him say now, I know that he's that's just his 0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.319 way of like being all the way trying to just 0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:52.120 throw anything at the fire now. And it's like, bro, 0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:53.880 none of that is gonna stick. Cut it out, you 0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:55.560 know what I mean? Like you can you can feel 0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:59.000 however you feel, because you know, I decided not to 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:01.560 let you just shit on Rory, and I called you 0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:03.520 out on your bullshit and you was wrong and we 0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:06.200 know you were stealing and and you're mad because I 0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.279 call you every time your name is brought up in 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:09.880 my presence. 0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:13.600 Yes, he's a thief. You still won't say his name, man, 0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:14.719 That that says a lot. 0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:15.960 I will never say his name. 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:20.000 That says a lot. Nah. But that's I'm just you. 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.359 You hurt man. No, it's not that I'm hurt. I'm 0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.640 not how you won't say his name then, because I 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:27.080 don't even want. I don't because it's not about it's 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:30.680 about the situation. It's not about him. It's about the 0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:32.960 situation of what happened in the show and the company 0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:33.919 and everything that we had. 0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:35.279 But it's not about him. 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:39.040 I don't have. It's no beef, it's none of That's. 0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:42.520 What I'm saying. Disappointment. That was your guy. Thought you 0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:47.360 had that, Oh yeah, for sure, locked up with that nigga. 0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:49.880 So it was love then look what happened. 0:50:50.320 --> 0:50:51.839 But that's what I'm saying. But it was only love 0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:55.840 on one side. It was love for me anytime anytime 0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:59.120 anybody you know has a relationship with me, I have 0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:01.520 a relationship with somebody like you know, you see you 0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:03.200 look around me. I got a lot of dudes that 0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.279 I've known since I was nine, ten eleven years old 0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:09.000 still around me to this day because I'm the same 0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:13.319 person I've been my entire life, Like I've always shown love, 0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:15.920 always shown respect, you know what I'm saying, Always kept 0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:18.560 in one hundred with niggas. Like if you see niggas 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.320 that and I'm no longer fuck with them, and you 0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:25.360 you find out what happened it's not me, Homie. I 0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:28.320 don't know what you're battling internally. Like I said with Homie, 0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:31.480 I know it's an ego thing. He always wanted to 0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:34.520 be that guy. And that's why I respectfully just moved 0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:36.840 out the way and let him have it. I'm not 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:37.840 going to believe. 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:40.160 If he always wanted to be that guy, for sure, 0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.440 most rappers want to be that guy for sure. 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.800 And that's that's why I said it. And that's that's fine. 0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.319 I'm not gonna get in the way of what you 0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:51.840 see for yourself. If you feel like I'm in the 0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:53.560 way of that, I'll. 0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:55.080 Step out the way, Homie. I'll let you have it. 0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:57.640 I'm not gonna argue with you. I'm not gonna battle you. 0:51:57.680 --> 0:51:59.919 I'm not gonna go to court and try to sue 0:51:59.920 --> 0:52:01.920 you and under and if you and this is another thing, 0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.239 rewind the tape he set out his mouth. 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.200 If we try to start the show, y'all, yeah, I 0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:08.839 remember that. 0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:12.120 You know what I'm saying, So you gotta these are 0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:15.319 the things that you know. I'm just like, you know, 0:52:15.400 --> 0:52:18.719 the listeners and the supporters are very They lose sight 0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:20.400 of a lot of things. But it's like just rewind 0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:20.800 the tapes. 0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:24.840 I can imagine y'all being disappointed. If you're asking for accounting, 0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:28.319 then cashp Logo pops up, then the network pops up, 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:31.120 then Spotify. 0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:33.520 Thing you know is already happened. 0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:35.960 But in his mind, they only wanted to do a 0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.280 deal with him. 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:40.160 Well, I'm a partner. 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:43.600 He didn't feel like. He didn't feel like it was 0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:44.680 because of the podcast. 0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:47.279 It's the same fight he was saving a complex. It's 0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:50.040 the same fight he was having with Shady and. 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.200 The slaughter House group. He asked, He asked pauling them 0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:53.800 for accounting. 0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:59.000 So I don't understand it. I know you though you're not. 0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:01.960 You're not gonna unders then, because it's gonna the goal 0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:04.600 post is gonna move when it has to do with 0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:08.120 him and and him having it having to show his character. 0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.680 Did the network start why y'all were y'all were still 0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:14.280 there right, Yes, yeah, y'all carried the network? 0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:17.880 The network was, y'all wasn't no show another show was? 0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:26.719 The network is literally just his YouTube channel. No, I'm 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:30.759 being serious, bro, The network is literally because again a 0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:31.440 lot of people didn't know. 0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:34.040 We didn't So what about the funding of the other shows? 0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:37.920 When he paid, you know, shout out caring he paid Karen, 0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:39.960 when he paid Mandy? 0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:42.440 Did he paid it? Where you? Where did you think 0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:44.440 that money came from? And I know, but did he 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:46.800 pay him? I don't know. You can stand okay, so, 0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:49.560 but but you're saying that the podcast was the network. 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:50.520 It was the anchor. 0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:53.160 If it's no, if there's no podcast, there's no none 0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:53.719 of the other ship. 0:53:53.840 --> 0:53:56.000 No, for sure, it was the anchor. We definitely came to. 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:58.319 So this is what I'm trying to say, is you 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:02.239 know the networking, it's just a YouTube channel, homie that 0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:06.440 was built off of the podcast. But in his mind, 0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:08.680 because he had that YouTube channel, since he had his 0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:11.359 videos up there, that's why he didn't want to pay 0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:12.160 us on the YouTube. 0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:15.279 That's fun. We can go back. We can go back 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:16.880 and look on YouTube. 0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:20.719 You can literally see what videos bringing in, what money monetizing. 0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:22.479 Yeah, and that's what makes them great. 0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:25.600 So it's like, okay, tell you when subscribe with Spiked, 0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:27.560 it tells you all of that. 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.080 I feel like, this is your channel. You started this 0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:32.240 back in the early two thousands. 0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.840 Ain't keep that over there because we know what that 0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:37.320 was bringing. 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:39.760 Little enough, Let's just be honest. 0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:40.320 Starving. 0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:44.240 Right, But once you start putting this podcast on there, we're. 0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:47.040 Looking at a little something coming in there. Just what 0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:50.520 was the conversation about not being paid from video? So 0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:54.280 and my understanding is correctly, he only monetized. He only 0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:56.320 paid you guys to monetize the audio. 0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:58.879 He did not pay out for the video. You didn't 0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:02.960 get nothing from YouTube. I don't know a deal like that. 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:04.000 I've never heard of. 0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:05.200 Of course you don't. 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:08.480 You don't get nothing from the video and your talent 0:55:08.560 --> 0:55:12.600 on camera, you're recording me but not getting me nothing 0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:16.520 from video. It's crazy, Joe, I gotta talk to you, 0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:18.240 but that's crazy. 0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:21.160 All of the things that we humbly said, Okay. 0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:23.560 When y'all asked for video money or hey, what's up 0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:25.600 with what? What was the conversations then. 0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:27.839 His manager said, no, it's not happening. He's not paying 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:31.839 here for that. He said, okay, no problem, humbly, ain't 0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:36.839 no problem. This is what I'm saying you how long you. 0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:39.719 He didn't even say that money i'm giving you no 0:55:39.920 --> 0:55:41.280 counts as the video. 0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:45.320 No, no, no, no, no, you're not getting paid from video 0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:45.680 at all. 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:47.160 That's wold, that's. 0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:49.960 He's and you're monetizing it in my face. You got 0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:52.640 six cameras in my face. It is wow, and my 0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:55.400 face is still up there, and y'all, and you know, 0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:58.120 Fred Taylor, I believe got a law, a settlement of 0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:01.640 some sorts. I think he was talking about like him 0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:04.839 and b did some business to like, Yo, I need 0:56:04.840 --> 0:56:07.480 some of that for sure, I'm gonna take that down. Yeah, 0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:09.640 you know what I'm saying. He said, Well, I take 0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:11.279 that back. He said he didn't want to take it 0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:13.600 down and be probably be gonna. 0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:14.040 Just cut the chick. 0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:17.600 But that's you know, their relationship is probably different, and 0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:20.440 it's probably not too much ego between those two gentlemen 0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:23.520 or it's not, you know, they probably it's just they're 0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:25.400 not dealing with the type of person I would be 0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:27.200 dealing with if I tried to do that. So you 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:30.440 know what again, but the important. 0:56:29.960 --> 0:56:32.920 Thing was it was all for the culture and us. 0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:35.759 Building what we were building, and Rory and myself didn't 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:36.600 want to interrupt that. 0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:40.879 Man, So we dealt with a lot man like that's heavy. Yeah, 0:56:40.920 --> 0:56:41.759 but this is what I'm saying. 0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:45.040 So we got six cameras in my face, monetizing twice 0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:47.880 a week on YouTube and telling me, you're not paying 0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:49.160 me as wild. 0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:52.000 But we did it because we saw the value and 0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:55.480 we didn't want to disrupt it because we like then 0:56:55.560 --> 0:56:55.960 we see that. 0:56:56.239 --> 0:57:01.719 And he would always say, you gotta stop. Mm hmm. 0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:06.000 I'll ask you what I asked, Fred, when y'all left 0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:08.040 the show? Were you trying to tank the show? 0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:09.120 No? 0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:14.120 See, when we left, when we left, right, I had Uh. 0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:16.520 It was because he had told Rory not to come in, 0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:18.760 and you know, I didn't like that, and then I 0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:20.880 showed up at the studio and you know, we had 0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:22.560 to talk. And then when he told me it was 0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:24.840 none of my business. To me, it was over with 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:27.160 at that point because I can't unhear you say that, 0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:29.360 you know, And I can never sit down in the 0:57:29.440 --> 0:57:31.880 room with you and act like, excuse me, act like 0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:35.160 you didn't say that. So when I left at that point, 0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:37.520 I told Rory, I said, yeah, it's over. You know, 0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:40.520 he said what he said, and I can't. I can't 0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:42.040 sit down in the room with that dude after that, 0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.320 not not not him saying that, and then not knowing 0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.920 everything that we agree not to get paid from and everything, 0:57:48.960 --> 0:57:51.200 knowing everything we built. It's just like, all right, enough 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:53.760 is enough? Like you just it's like you not gonna 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:57.360 We took a small percentage to begin with, a percentage 0:57:57.400 --> 0:58:00.520 that nobody would have agreed to, and we're not getting 0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:02.200 paid on YouTube. And then now you stand in my 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:03.600 face and tell me this is none of my business 0:58:03.600 --> 0:58:06.040 when I'm paying the taxes on the money that's coming in. 0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:09.280 So for me, it was done there. Rory begged me 0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:12.200 to have a meeting once he got back, so we 0:58:12.280 --> 0:58:14.440 all went to his house and sat down and talked, 0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:17.880 and he agreed. He said, yeah, we're gonna, you know, 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:19.720 gonna get the account and right, get the account and 0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:20.440 sent to your people. 0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:21.560 Da da da da da. 0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:23.680 Let's all go to our corners and we're gonna get 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:25.840 everything right and then we'll come back and you know, 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:29.520 we'll we'll we'll, we'll reconvene and and move forward. Like 0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:31.840 we just take a pause. Everybody go to their corner, 0:58:32.160 --> 0:58:33.960 all right. Cool. Next thing I know, three days later, 0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:37.280 he got these two new dudes recording episode. And I'm like, 0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:40.120 we just had a talk at your crib and you 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:43.520 said we're gonna take some a week off and get 0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:46.480 all the paperwork right and then we'll reconvene. Now all 0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:48.360 of a sudden, you got two new dudes sitting in there. 0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:50.800 It's like, all right, cool man. That was a slap 0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:52.240 in the face at that point. I mean, I was 0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:55.480 done anyway, so it didn't matter, only because Rory you know, 0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:58.200 kept talking to me and kept begging me to, you know, 0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:00.200 try to make it right. 0:59:00.200 --> 0:59:00.439 Cool. 0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:03.840 And then when we were supposed to get we end 0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:07.680 up going back and we did two episodes. And in 0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.040 that time of that two episodes, we only did that 0:59:10.080 --> 0:59:13.080 because we were being told that the accounting was being 0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:17.080 done and was on the way, and that Friday was 0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:19.240 supposed to be when the accounting was going to be sent. 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:23.840 And then when that Friday came, his manager reached out 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:26.320 and was like, yeah, he said that that is the 0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:29.920 accounting and that he's not sending nothing else. It's literally 0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:31.920 what he said. He said that the accounting that the 0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.640 one hundred and forty thousand dollars mistake was on was 0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:38.040 the accounting and he's not sending that even straight. 0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:43.160 That's crazy. That's wow. So so niggas is crazy. So 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:44.080 but this is what I'm saying. 0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:47.480 But then but then you got yourrrrrr, your manager in 0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:49.200 the room when we don't show up and you yelling 0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:52.040 at Rory's fired and all this. I hear his manager 0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:53.680 told me, I told you you was paying the more 0:59:53.720 --> 0:59:54.960 than they was more than you. 0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:55.560 Supposed to be. 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:58.800 Yeah, who because we went and got a motherfucking a 0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:01.960 multimillion dollar deal. Serious ex So who was he overpaying? 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:02.240 Right? 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:05.000 Because he said that he was being more generous than 1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:05.960 he should have been. 1:00:05.840 --> 1:00:09.160 And all of that. I remember that. Yeah, how does 1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:11.760 he know? And he not a partner and you don't 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:13.920 know or is he a partner too? The manager? 1:00:14.000 --> 1:00:16.920 Yeah, he's he know what he he know what he's taking. 1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:19.680 He know he know the money that's being stolen. 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:23.560 He knows that. Bring the paperwork. 1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:26.160 We don't have to do none of this again. 1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:29.919 Right right? Right? Should account? I would shoulder. I would 1:00:29.920 --> 1:00:31.800 show he can't. Yeah, he can't. 1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:33.880 I will, I would show it he can't. 1:00:34.240 --> 1:00:38.560 That's why I never heard you speak about why y'all 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:43.680 didn't start a podcast, why y'all were there or spin 1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:47.520 off for speak to some of those narratives that people say, Yo, 1:00:47.640 --> 1:00:51.360 they didn't create the value outside of sitting on camera 1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:53.360 with him. 1:00:53.400 --> 1:00:53.800 We didn't. 1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:56.200 Because I'm looking at it. 1:00:56.360 --> 1:00:58.880 Yeah, especially when y'all I'm talking about why y'all were there, 1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:01.440 but in my opinion, I would say with damn they 1:01:02.000 --> 1:01:05.000 they were fighting for the money from what they were doing. 1:01:05.080 --> 1:01:07.000 I don't see how you can create something while you're 1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:09.200 still saying, hold up, I ain't properly paid for. 1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:10.000 Yeah. 1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:12.360 See that's the thing again, people don't. I don't know 1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:14.760 how clear we you know, we talked about this a 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:17.800 few times, right just for like the creators. If you 1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:20.520 have a you're starting to show with your homies in 1:01:20.880 --> 1:01:23.160 a basement, you know it ain't no no money involved, 1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:26.320 no nothing, and y'all building something, and y'all look up 1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:28.480 one day and y'all got a fucking audience and people 1:01:28.520 --> 1:01:31.800 tuning in, and you know now, you know, people are 1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:33.480 starting to reach out and things like that. 1:01:33.720 --> 1:01:34.280 You see it now. 1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:38.680 Now it's becoming a business, and y'all have a contract 1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:40.680 with each other and say, okay, this is the percentage 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:42.840 that we're gonna split. This is how we're gonna bust 1:01:42.840 --> 1:01:45.600 it whatever bag comes. This is how we busting it down. 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:48.160 Right now, when the. 1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:53.880 Bag comes and you don't see the numbers that's coming in, 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:57.280 and you don't see what's being paid in and paid out, 1:01:57.600 --> 1:01:59.640 you don't know what if you get in your like 1:01:59.680 --> 1:02:01.840 it's like home hold on. Before any of this became 1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:06.680 a thing, we had this contract. But again you're talking 1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:11.240 to somebody that has said that they don't honor contract. 1:02:10.880 --> 1:02:12.919 Right, and then I've seen when you said it back 1:02:12.960 --> 1:02:16.160 to him, and then he didn't receive that the same way. 1:02:16.280 --> 1:02:17.400 Of course he can't. 1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:20.960 Because anything if you tell somebody like listen, this is 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:24.280 something that you said, and then now you're moving like 1:02:24.640 --> 1:02:26.720 this is something you said and they know that, the 1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:28.480 people gonn look at you like, oh, that's fucked up. 1:02:28.680 --> 1:02:30.360 Of course you're gonna try to act like you never 1:02:30.440 --> 1:02:33.040 said that. It's like, bro, I'm not I would never 1:02:33.080 --> 1:02:36.960 sit him live about anybody. You're on camera saying that before. 1:02:37.040 --> 1:02:39.920 Plenty of times you've done business like that with people, 1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:43.200 plenty of times, Like it's not something I'm just saying 1:02:43.960 --> 1:02:46.680 where I fucked up at And it's again the type 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:49.480 of man and my mother raised treat people the way 1:02:49.520 --> 1:02:52.120 you want to be treated. So because I would never 1:02:52.200 --> 1:02:56.000 do that to him, benefit that to me. 1:02:56.200 --> 1:02:57.160 You stand what I'm saying. 1:02:57.200 --> 1:02:59.640 So it's a it's a lesson learned, and you know, 1:02:59.680 --> 1:03:03.360 to other creatives out there, you know, just be careful man, 1:03:03.400 --> 1:03:03.960 because you. 1:03:03.880 --> 1:03:06.280 Know, no know what it sounds like, you know know 1:03:06.360 --> 1:03:08.440 what it looked like, you know what it feels like. 1:03:08.800 --> 1:03:09.560 You know what I'm saying. 1:03:09.680 --> 1:03:11.880 And the more important, something don't feel right. 1:03:12.680 --> 1:03:14.120 It's something not right right. 1:03:14.200 --> 1:03:16.080 And when I when I when I look at it 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:18.760 and think about y'all, sometimes I say to myself, that 1:03:18.920 --> 1:03:21.360 was one of the best shows ever to be. 1:03:21.480 --> 1:03:24.600 Created, man, And it was that podcast was. 1:03:24.600 --> 1:03:29.560 So chemistry, the depth of it, the time y'all put 1:03:29.560 --> 1:03:32.360 in it, Man to just evolve it amazing. 1:03:32.640 --> 1:03:33.280 It was amazing. 1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:33.440 Bro. 1:03:33.520 --> 1:03:36.439 We have some great, great, great times man, last great ship. 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:40.000 But you know, unfortunately, like we've seen time and Tom 1:03:40.200 --> 1:03:42.960 always Bro, you know that money come into play. 1:03:42.760 --> 1:03:45.040 Man and break the pool balls. 1:03:45.280 --> 1:03:48.760 Man, it just it's you know, but that's it's a 1:03:48.800 --> 1:03:51.600 deeper thing with us when it comes to money and 1:03:51.640 --> 1:03:54.840 things like that. It's just something that we can't get past. 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:56.480 Like we just always feel like we got to do 1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:59.640 each other dirty or do each other wrong when when 1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:02.280 when money come in, because you know, for some of 1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:05.080 us we've never had. But but to me it's the opposite, 1:04:05.160 --> 1:04:08.640 Like I I can't do you dirty behind something I 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:09.960 never had, because it's like I don't. 1:04:10.120 --> 1:04:10.720 I never had it. 1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:11.680 I'm not missing that shit. 1:04:11.920 --> 1:04:12.959 I never had it, right. 1:04:13.200 --> 1:04:15.120 So when you do me dirty for some shit that 1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:17.280 you never had, it's weird, super weird. 1:04:17.400 --> 1:04:18.040 Say, nigga, we. 1:04:18.040 --> 1:04:19.720 Never even had that type of money, Like, why would 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:22.360 you do your man dirty for that type of money 1:04:22.360 --> 1:04:23.880 when you never had it? So it's like, nigga, what 1:04:23.880 --> 1:04:26.680 does it matter? You was able to survive thisislan without 1:04:26.680 --> 1:04:29.640 that type of money, understand, so to do. 1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:33.360 It's just weird. Man. 1:04:33.400 --> 1:04:36.800 And then, like I said, I've seen how things look 1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:40.480 when now on this side, when you know business is. 1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:41.680 Done, you're more happy now. 1:04:41.920 --> 1:04:45.040 Oh my god, it's you know what me and Rory 1:04:45.080 --> 1:04:48.280 are doing, man, is again we were moving at our 1:04:48.320 --> 1:04:51.520 own pace, were creating at our own pace, were doing 1:04:51.560 --> 1:04:52.840 business at our own pace. 1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:54.360 Man, it's beautiful, man. 1:04:54.440 --> 1:04:57.520 And you know, traveling the world doing these shows and 1:04:57.840 --> 1:05:00.520 getting out here touching the people and having these one 1:05:00.560 --> 1:05:03.120 on one conversations with people that tune in and support 1:05:03.640 --> 1:05:07.920 weekly it's humbling, man. You know, it's humbling to go 1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:12.000 to the UK and people that that's a big move. Yeah, man, 1:05:12.040 --> 1:05:13.360 I mean, you know how long. 1:05:13.240 --> 1:05:15.720 Y'all been on y'all loan not even that long. 1:05:15.800 --> 1:05:17.560 To be a septemberated year. 1:05:18.120 --> 1:05:22.280 What yeah, one year, one year and you in London 1:05:22.480 --> 1:05:25.640 And that's fucking dope, man. 1:05:25.720 --> 1:05:28.400 I mean, man, if these other podcast niggas don't salute that, 1:05:28.440 --> 1:05:29.200 I salute that. 1:05:29.600 --> 1:05:31.400 But that's why I'm sitting here with you for sure. 1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:33.120 You know, a lot of niggas don't fuck with me, man, 1:05:33.680 --> 1:05:36.200 I think because they you know, people don't fuck with 1:05:36.240 --> 1:05:38.600 you when they see everything that they're not. 1:05:39.560 --> 1:05:42.320 In you, right, and they intimidated me. 1:05:42.880 --> 1:05:44.960 It's like, you know when they hear me talk and say, oh, 1:05:45.000 --> 1:05:47.800 you know these niggas suckers that they know I'm talking 1:05:47.840 --> 1:05:49.600 to them, but I don't know that because I don't 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:51.920 know how exactly. So you know a lot of niggas 1:05:51.920 --> 1:05:53.520 don't you know, they don't they don't speak to me, 1:05:53.640 --> 1:05:55.720 and they don't you know what they talk crazy about 1:05:55.720 --> 1:05:57.920 me behind clubs. And it's like, man if y'all niggas 1:05:58.000 --> 1:06:01.040 only knew, Man, I show love sure you know what 1:06:01.080 --> 1:06:02.880 I mean, Like, I ain't got it, I ain't gotta 1:06:03.400 --> 1:06:06.840 you know, I'm not gonna get with over though podcast 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:10.320 money ship. I don't care about that man. So you 1:06:10.360 --> 1:06:13.280 know I'm just me man, And and like I said, 1:06:13.320 --> 1:06:15.520 what me and Rory are doing is beautiful. 1:06:16.200 --> 1:06:16.480 Uh. 1:06:16.760 --> 1:06:19.480 You know, we're having a lot of fun with this ship, man. 1:06:19.480 --> 1:06:22.080 And I promise we got so much ship that we're 1:06:22.080 --> 1:06:24.800 putting together, man, and that we were gready to jump into. Man. 1:06:24.880 --> 1:06:28.400 And it's it's gonna be you know. We the people 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:30.400 see it though, They see what we're carving out, and 1:06:30.400 --> 1:06:32.960 they see the lane we were going into for sure. 1:06:33.000 --> 1:06:35.440 And you know, we we have the we have the 1:06:35.520 --> 1:06:38.400 right people supporting us. We got the right people behind us. 1:06:39.480 --> 1:06:41.040 You know, shout out to U t A, shout out 1:06:41.040 --> 1:06:46.520 to Rich Paul Agent, Orn bigs Benner hip Hop. 1:06:47.560 --> 1:06:48.720 You know, we got the right We got the right 1:06:48.720 --> 1:06:51.400 people behind them. Sure, how strong is their brotherhood between 1:06:51.440 --> 1:06:54.600 you and mam? Did that make y'all strong? I'm sorry 1:06:54.920 --> 1:06:57.960 you and Rory? How strong is that brotherhood between you 1:06:58.040 --> 1:06:59.520 and Rory? Did that make y'all strong? 1:06:59.640 --> 1:07:02.080 Going through that? Oh? Yeah absolutely? Man. 1:07:02.560 --> 1:07:05.840 You know it's like I said, Rory and not myself. Now, 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:09.439 we just sometimes we don't even have to talk. We'll 1:07:09.440 --> 1:07:11.000 look at each other. We just know what it is 1:07:11.040 --> 1:07:13.400 on top. Yeah, like, oh man, here we go with 1:07:13.440 --> 1:07:17.680 this shit. But more importantly, we just we just know 1:07:17.800 --> 1:07:21.560 what we ain't going for, you know, no holes, just 1:07:21.560 --> 1:07:22.920 like we not even entertaining that. 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:25.680 You know, when I look back at it too, I 1:07:25.680 --> 1:07:28.000 want the young creators to pay attention to this is 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:33.000 a very important situation. You guys operated in a certain way, 1:07:33.600 --> 1:07:36.480 holding on to information that you didn't have account that 1:07:36.600 --> 1:07:39.760 money was coming in at some point of time, and 1:07:39.840 --> 1:07:42.920 even if it had stopped coming in, there's logos popping up, 1:07:42.960 --> 1:07:46.320 there's Patreon, but there's certain things happening, and we're still 1:07:46.360 --> 1:07:50.200 waiting on accounting from a couple of years ago. 1:07:49.960 --> 1:07:51.640 And so that led to frustration. 1:07:51.920 --> 1:07:55.800 But you guys operated with that information as best as 1:07:55.840 --> 1:07:59.120 you know how. And everybody talks about y'all and how 1:07:59.160 --> 1:08:03.680 y'all acting on camera and maybe our wordiness enthused as 1:08:03.800 --> 1:08:06.440 they thought you should have been, or involved as they 1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:09.280 thought you should have been, But nobody ever talks about 1:08:09.320 --> 1:08:13.400 how Joe responded to when y'all had the conversation with 1:08:13.560 --> 1:08:18.280 Parks about something ain't going right. I think Parks when 1:08:18.320 --> 1:08:22.639 it said something which Joe responded in a way that. 1:08:22.720 --> 1:08:24.600 Was oh, that's when he told Rory, you have to 1:08:24.600 --> 1:08:27.080 come in. This is a problem. Now. 1:08:27.200 --> 1:08:32.960 As the boss, how you handle that information is very important, right, 1:08:33.040 --> 1:08:35.920 you don't come emotional like that as the boss. 1:08:36.800 --> 1:08:39.599 But the emotion was there because see what it ultimately was. 1:08:41.560 --> 1:08:45.760 We were in the studio and you know, Rory and 1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:52.360 myself were like thereafter Homie had left and the staff 1:08:53.560 --> 1:08:55.760 started talking to us because they weren't comfortable talking to 1:08:55.840 --> 1:08:58.759 him because whenever they talked to him about things that's 1:08:59.439 --> 1:09:02.560 bothering up or you know, money or being paid or 1:09:02.600 --> 1:09:06.559 things like that, it's always meant with anger and yelling and. 1:09:06.479 --> 1:09:07.120 Things like that. 1:09:08.000 --> 1:09:10.559 With us, they know the energy is different, so they 1:09:10.600 --> 1:09:13.720 decided to start having a conversation with us and and 1:09:13.720 --> 1:09:17.280 and and voicing some of their discrepancies. So we was like, oh, 1:09:17.360 --> 1:09:19.240 we're like, oh shit, we didn't even know that that 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:20.840 was happening, Like all right, Will. 1:09:22.479 --> 1:09:23.200 And then you know. 1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:27.200 Parks being who you know, he's friends with Homies manager, 1:09:27.280 --> 1:09:30.760 and you know, he decided to after that meeting to 1:09:30.840 --> 1:09:32.519 call him and tell him, hey, some of the guys 1:09:32.560 --> 1:09:35.760 are not happy. And I guess Homie felt like that 1:09:35.960 --> 1:09:38.680 was Rory's dealing but it wasn't right. So when he 1:09:38.720 --> 1:09:40.320 told Rory not to come in, it was based off 1:09:40.320 --> 1:09:43.559 because he felt like Rory had started a meeting, and 1:09:43.640 --> 1:09:45.920 he didn't. We was just there and we left the 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:49.080 studio late and the guys decided to kick it with 1:09:49.160 --> 1:09:50.760 us about the situation. 1:09:51.560 --> 1:09:52.479 They felt a way about it. 1:09:53.800 --> 1:09:55.800 It's not our fault that they're comfortable talking to us 1:09:55.800 --> 1:09:56.840 about these things. 1:09:56.760 --> 1:09:59.519 Right, and he and see people never said, Yo, Joe, 1:09:59.600 --> 1:10:03.440 you ow overreacted to getting information that your people are unhappy. 1:10:03.920 --> 1:10:06.400 As the boss, nigga, what you think I'm supposed to 1:10:06.400 --> 1:10:07.320 do with my family? 1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:08.639 Come tell me they unhappy? 1:10:08.720 --> 1:10:11.920 But you know why, because he felt like he wasn't 1:10:11.960 --> 1:10:15.960 in the room so he couldn't spend narratives and dance 1:10:16.920 --> 1:10:19.880 when people start saying what they're unhappy about. He felt like, no, 1:10:19.920 --> 1:10:21.280 I need to be in there, because he. 1:10:21.280 --> 1:10:22.759 Said, he felt it was cowardly. 1:10:22.840 --> 1:10:25.840 He don't understand it, don't no matter what you your 1:10:25.880 --> 1:10:29.240 family unhappy. So at this point, as the boss, as 1:10:29.280 --> 1:10:32.280 the father, as the head that you say you is, 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:35.040 you're supposed to take that situation and comb through it 1:10:35.080 --> 1:10:36.320 and not come back and say. 1:10:38.479 --> 1:10:42.439 You only only that's nervous energy. Somebody start acting like that, 1:10:42.479 --> 1:10:43.840 and you know, found the gold. 1:10:43.960 --> 1:10:48.880 Nig I thought I stayed that's. 1:10:47.439 --> 1:10:49.280 What That's all. It's nervous energy. 1:10:49.320 --> 1:10:52.680 It's like, oh shit, and that start confirming to you, like, oh, 1:10:52.720 --> 1:10:55.280 I'm from where I know what this means and you 1:10:55.320 --> 1:10:58.679 won't show me. Of course, man, I'm putting two intwo thegether. 1:10:58.880 --> 1:11:02.479 So not only do not only are we not we 1:11:02.560 --> 1:11:04.120 know we getting fucked, but now even the. 1:11:04.240 --> 1:11:07.080 Staff I feel like they getting fucked. 1:11:07.880 --> 1:11:09.960 Oh yeah, we know what this is. And and that's 1:11:10.040 --> 1:11:15.320 why for me, it was whack for Parks to take 1:11:15.360 --> 1:11:18.800 that stance, because Parks knows and I've said that on 1:11:18.800 --> 1:11:23.040 two Parks he's he's had and and and that bothered 1:11:23.040 --> 1:11:25.960 me because when when we had our meeting outside at 1:11:26.000 --> 1:11:30.320 Park's crib, he pulled Parks outside and he asks Parks, 1:11:30.320 --> 1:11:33.000 he said, yo, do me and you have any money 1:11:33.000 --> 1:11:37.120 issues or business issues? And Parks said no, without putting 1:11:37.120 --> 1:11:40.320 Park's business out there, that's a lie of known Parks. 1:11:40.360 --> 1:11:44.640 Parks has engineered and recorded records that he hasn't been 1:11:44.680 --> 1:11:51.320 paid for ever, and he's voiced that he's he's recording 1:11:51.400 --> 1:11:53.280 multiple shows and he's getting paid a saundar. 1:11:53.560 --> 1:11:56.720 So you say he's. 1:11:55.920 --> 1:11:58.559 Into deep and I understand it, and I'm not mad. 1:11:58.720 --> 1:12:00.400 We don't he but do you think he got the 1:12:00.439 --> 1:12:01.960 talent that you and Road ricat. 1:12:01.960 --> 1:12:05.760 Though as far as personality, yeah, I don't know. 1:12:05.800 --> 1:12:09.200 I don't know if that's do you think I'll rephrase 1:12:09.240 --> 1:12:09.719 the question. 1:12:10.400 --> 1:12:14.240 Because he's played off camera so long, does he have 1:12:14.280 --> 1:12:17.120 the ability to pivot in the way that y'all did 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:20.040 because y'all faces were so recognizable by. 1:12:19.960 --> 1:12:22.760 Being on camera for five years. I have a hun 1:12:22.840 --> 1:12:23.200 it was. 1:12:23.320 --> 1:12:27.000 I think that Parks is. I think that he's super talented. 1:12:27.000 --> 1:12:29.439 He's super he's super smart when it comes to music. 1:12:29.479 --> 1:12:32.320 He's like a super nerd, right, And I say that respectfully. 1:12:33.479 --> 1:12:38.160 You know, he he's a hip hop head, very talented. 1:12:38.240 --> 1:12:41.160 I don't know if I don't know if he wants 1:12:41.240 --> 1:12:46.599 to be a personality. I think that his passion more 1:12:46.680 --> 1:12:51.080 so is in the music mixing, uh, you know, playing, 1:12:52.479 --> 1:12:54.920 you know, I think that's where his passion lies. I 1:12:54.920 --> 1:12:57.240 don't know if his passion is I think that the 1:12:57.360 --> 1:12:59.920 podcast is just fell into his lap, right, But I 1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:03.160 don't think that he, uh, he wants to be a 1:13:03.200 --> 1:13:06.120 personality quote unquote, I don't think that's what he wants. 1:13:06.400 --> 1:13:09.920 I think that he would rather be creating music and 1:13:10.040 --> 1:13:14.519 mixing and recording music at a high level for for 1:13:14.600 --> 1:13:17.320 some some really really high art high level artists, and 1:13:17.320 --> 1:13:21.000 he'll be comfortable, Oh because he's a that's his that's 1:13:21.000 --> 1:13:24.160 his past. Yeah, Parks, and that's that speaks to why 1:13:24.160 --> 1:13:27.120 he was comfortable off camera. Yeah, but and that and 1:13:27.120 --> 1:13:31.360 you know, and that he should play into that and 1:13:31.400 --> 1:13:33.280 he has he did play into which is why that 1:13:33.520 --> 1:13:35.600 it was the blend we had was perfect because it 1:13:35.640 --> 1:13:39.240 was literally real relationship like so and then Parks, like 1:13:39.320 --> 1:13:42.400 I said, being uh, the the just the the the 1:13:42.600 --> 1:13:45.320 ear that he has and for the sound and how 1:13:45.439 --> 1:13:48.160 how the show should sound and things like that and 1:13:48.200 --> 1:13:51.280 just mixing it and you know, audio wise, the show 1:13:51.360 --> 1:13:54.320 sounded amazing, you know what I mean. So I think 1:13:54.320 --> 1:13:56.439 that that's what his strength is. I just think again 1:13:56.479 --> 1:14:00.320 he's just he's a little into deep personally and business 1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:03.400 wise right now with everything that he can't really voice 1:14:03.439 --> 1:14:07.400 his his frustrations and and things like that. But he's 1:14:07.479 --> 1:14:08.280 he's married. Now. 1:14:08.439 --> 1:14:08.879 Congrats. 1:14:08.960 --> 1:14:11.280 I didn't you know, I didn't speak to them since 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:13.040 that day and I haven't spoken with anybody over there, 1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:15.519 So congrats to him. And again I want to be 1:14:15.600 --> 1:14:18.640 very clear, it's no beef with anybody, you know what 1:14:18.680 --> 1:14:21.559 I mean. Life is amazing life is beautiful, My car 1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:22.280 is beautiful. 1:14:22.360 --> 1:14:25.639 You you selling that ship? Yeah, I mean we you. 1:14:25.600 --> 1:14:28.360 Know, it's it's who I am, man. 1:14:28.240 --> 1:14:31.559 It's I mean, you can teach how to fish in 1:14:31.560 --> 1:14:33.000 there you went and got the information. 1:14:33.200 --> 1:14:34.360 Yeah, and that's why I'm here. 1:14:34.520 --> 1:14:37.240 Most importantly, man, I want creatives to know, like you're 1:14:37.240 --> 1:14:39.760 gonna run in the roadblocks, it's always gonna be some 1:14:39.800 --> 1:14:42.559 ship in the game that's gonna you know, tell you yo, 1:14:42.680 --> 1:14:44.920 fuck this ship, just you know, walk away? 1:14:45.800 --> 1:14:46.360 Nah? 1:14:46.520 --> 1:14:49.879 Yeah, how to identify some of these ship. 1:14:50.040 --> 1:14:51.600 Just I'm just telling you what to watch out for, 1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:54.320 what to be careful for. It's gonna happen. I don't 1:14:54.320 --> 1:14:57.000 care how long you feel like Homies was homies and this, 1:14:57.040 --> 1:14:59.840 that and the third. When you know you you want 1:14:59.840 --> 1:15:02.000 to know who your friends are. Put some money on 1:15:02.040 --> 1:15:02.720 the table. 1:15:02.560 --> 1:15:04.519 Man, it's gonna expose it everything. 1:15:04.560 --> 1:15:06.320 It's gonna expose it every time. And then you're gonna 1:15:06.320 --> 1:15:08.680 see what somebody think about you. You're gonna see how 1:15:08.720 --> 1:15:11.080 much they feel you worth. You know what I mean. 1:15:11.200 --> 1:15:13.400 You it's it's you know, go to the bathroom. Youre 1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:15.240 gonna come back. That pile won't look a little. 1:15:15.479 --> 1:15:20.000 You're gonna put something in pocket. It's just it's crazy, man. 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:21.840 It's like, you know, you start seeing it like that, 1:15:21.960 --> 1:15:24.639 I thought these was the homies and you know that's life. 1:15:24.640 --> 1:15:26.679 That's a that's just a life lesson. That's why I said, 1:15:26.720 --> 1:15:28.920 you know, it's it's no, it's no, it's no, it's 1:15:28.920 --> 1:15:29.920 no hard feelings. 1:15:29.920 --> 1:15:32.680 No one ever see y'all make it up. Nah, it's 1:15:32.720 --> 1:15:35.160 over with. Yeah, I'm cut from a different type of 1:15:35.200 --> 1:15:37.200 texture too. Yeah. 1:15:37.439 --> 1:15:39.519 And then like I said, he started saying too much 1:15:39.760 --> 1:15:43.040 after that, where it was like, you know, homie, we 1:15:43.200 --> 1:15:46.200 know you stole money, Like you can start trying to 1:15:46.240 --> 1:15:49.400 create these narratives all you want, and we don't have 1:15:49.479 --> 1:15:50.120 no resume. 1:15:50.400 --> 1:15:52.240 And you coddled coddle to me. 1:15:53.040 --> 1:15:53.960 You coddled me. 1:15:54.360 --> 1:15:57.320 Niggas you crazy like niggas that know me, you know, 1:15:57.400 --> 1:15:59.200 you know what's funny, like people that really know us. 1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:01.800 And then they heard that, they was like, oh, yeah, 1:16:01.840 --> 1:16:03.840 he just he gonna do anything but just tell he's 1:16:03.840 --> 1:16:04.920 gonna start saying anything but. 1:16:04.920 --> 1:16:05.759 The truth at this point. 1:16:05.960 --> 1:16:08.120 And that's why I'm just like, you know, you coddled me, 1:16:08.280 --> 1:16:10.519 Like all right, man, Like if that's the that's. 1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:12.760 What's the nature of the relationship. When did jaill? Like 1:16:12.800 --> 1:16:15.240 what what is he? What? What makes him even say that? 1:16:16.640 --> 1:16:20.479 I guess because like I was, you know, the house 1:16:20.520 --> 1:16:24.479 that he was renting he needed help, well, well yeah, 1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:26.639 I mean he needed help on He always had roommates 1:16:26.640 --> 1:16:28.040 and things like that, which is not you know. 1:16:28.200 --> 1:16:30.759 It's not a bad thing, but it's it's it's rough 1:16:30.800 --> 1:16:35.559 to identify that as you know, coddling somebody, if that's 1:16:35.600 --> 1:16:36.639 what that means. 1:16:36.600 --> 1:16:39.400 In his and in his mind. I feel like he 1:16:39.720 --> 1:16:41.360 felt like I had to live with him, like I 1:16:41.400 --> 1:16:42.160 was homeless or something. 1:16:42.160 --> 1:16:42.519 I don't know. 1:16:42.680 --> 1:16:45.280 I don't know what type of story he's trying to 1:16:45.320 --> 1:16:50.040 create to justify his uh him stealing and or him 1:16:50.080 --> 1:16:52.479 doing whatever he did. I don't know. I don't really care. 1:16:52.840 --> 1:16:55.479 But the facts are the facts, and he know what 1:16:55.520 --> 1:16:58.040 the facts are. Like Homie cut it out, like you know, 1:16:58.520 --> 1:17:02.160 it was never that you know, wasn't that. You know 1:17:02.320 --> 1:17:05.360 me very well. I was never without anything. If I 1:17:05.400 --> 1:17:07.840 want something, I had it or I would go get it. 1:17:07.880 --> 1:17:10.360 Like you know, I think if y'all wanted to tank 1:17:10.400 --> 1:17:13.680 the show, like if y'all wasn't really trying to like 1:17:15.400 --> 1:17:18.720 make it work, that y'all wouldn't even done that Patreon 1:17:19.479 --> 1:17:22.240 like show up over that at all because, in my opinion, 1:17:22.280 --> 1:17:24.519 and I said this when I was speaking to Beat Marshall, 1:17:25.520 --> 1:17:29.400 one of the biggest tricks or one of the biggest 1:17:29.439 --> 1:17:35.360 coincidence coincidences I'll say in podcasting, is Joe Budden was 1:17:35.360 --> 1:17:39.200 able to transfer that audience before y'all left, right, He 1:17:39.280 --> 1:17:41.960 was able to take all of that interest that he had, 1:17:42.560 --> 1:17:45.639 number one that didn't get the deal and ball behind 1:17:45.640 --> 1:17:49.200 this creator talk and transferred that behind that paywall, and 1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:53.120 then y'all left. Now, granted, when y'all left, I imagine 1:17:53.120 --> 1:17:56.639 some of the people left too, but he was some 1:17:56.680 --> 1:18:01.040 of those people stayed to be nosy, that just stayed anyway, like, 1:18:01.160 --> 1:18:03.839 so he was able to that transfer of that audience 1:18:04.000 --> 1:18:07.439 was so fucking important. Why didn't well, I guess because 1:18:07.520 --> 1:18:09.280 y'all wasn't trying to take the show, do you what 1:18:09.320 --> 1:18:12.000 I mean? How many episodes did y'all do on Patreon? 1:18:12.240 --> 1:18:14.640 Maybe? Two? One? Uh? 1:18:16.600 --> 1:18:20.240 I think the deal was signed in January. In the 1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:22.000 February March is when we left. 1:18:22.320 --> 1:18:24.559 Did he did you know about the deal before he 1:18:24.560 --> 1:18:25.200 announced that? How? 1:18:25.280 --> 1:18:27.479 How long did what did you guys know about the 1:18:27.479 --> 1:18:28.479 deal before he announced? 1:18:28.680 --> 1:18:28.920 Uh? 1:18:29.840 --> 1:18:32.960 Maybe a couple of weeks and didn't even that deal. 1:18:33.000 --> 1:18:37.040 Like I don't even know. I'm I remember he came 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:39.840 in and was talking about something he was paying us 1:18:39.840 --> 1:18:44.479 in crypto or something like that, and then come to 1:18:44.520 --> 1:18:47.080 find out the deal we were we were supposed to get. 1:18:47.720 --> 1:18:50.800 I think more than that, Bro, I'm telling you, it's 1:18:50.840 --> 1:18:54.799 so much shit that I'm more than positive that we 1:18:54.800 --> 1:18:59.840 were old. But you know, I got people that call 1:19:00.120 --> 1:19:02.360 every week. You know why you ain't, why you ain't soon, 1:19:02.479 --> 1:19:04.200 go get your fucking money. Don't let him take that 1:19:04.240 --> 1:19:06.080 money like that. That's a lot of millions of dollars 1:19:06.160 --> 1:19:11.320 in But I'm just like, Bro, I don't. I'm just 1:19:11.360 --> 1:19:14.040 so different man. You know, I'm just a different type nigga. 1:19:14.320 --> 1:19:16.200 And you know what, Like I said, I pointed out 1:19:16.240 --> 1:19:17.559 their principal move you made. 1:19:17.600 --> 1:19:19.320 That's say, that's say a lot. 1:19:19.320 --> 1:19:21.440 Yeah, man, like I don't want to sit in no courtroom. 1:19:21.520 --> 1:19:25.200 And and man, I stopped fucking with my famous home boy. 1:19:25.479 --> 1:19:27.559 Who would have who would have kicked the white boy 1:19:27.600 --> 1:19:30.759 out the car kept me in the car. I stopped 1:19:30.760 --> 1:19:33.160 fucking with him because he wasn't keeping it solid about 1:19:33.200 --> 1:19:37.320 the situation. That man, come on and if Joe k 1:19:37.600 --> 1:19:40.840 argue with that, bro. That's that says something, bro. 1:19:40.920 --> 1:19:44.439 And that's what I'm saying. He knows me. He I'm 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:47.479 the same dude that sat in the cell because you 1:19:47.640 --> 1:19:51.559 had pills in the car. I sat in to sell 1:19:51.640 --> 1:19:52.519 with you for a weekend. 1:19:52.680 --> 1:19:54.960 Come on, man, I never I don't pop pills. Come 1:19:55.000 --> 1:20:01.200 on your behalf. Man. I sat there with you. I was, 1:20:01.360 --> 1:20:05.680 I was sitting the screen, man, I was. 1:20:05.720 --> 1:20:08.080 I was always that guy like I don't. I don't 1:20:08.479 --> 1:20:11.240 because I know. See, you know what it is when 1:20:11.320 --> 1:20:14.000 you know who you are and you secure within yourself, comfortable, 1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:17.599 you comfortable, and not only that, you know that if 1:20:17.640 --> 1:20:20.720 I really start getting my ship off in here, these 1:20:20.800 --> 1:20:21.840 niggas gonna get upset. 1:20:22.240 --> 1:20:24.400 I can get thirty easy. 1:20:24.439 --> 1:20:27.559 They gonna they gonna get mad, they gonna get mad. 1:20:27.840 --> 1:20:31.240 It's like, now you know, I set the screen. But 1:20:31.280 --> 1:20:32.960 then it's like, you know, when I start getting my 1:20:33.000 --> 1:20:35.559 ship off, you look like you set in the screen, 1:20:35.560 --> 1:20:39.920 but you really pushing it. It's like you're really coming out, 1:20:39.920 --> 1:20:41.679 you really pushing that nigga yourself. 1:20:42.080 --> 1:20:43.959 I'm still getting off, but it's like you ain't. 1:20:43.760 --> 1:20:49.040 Really as I'm still I'm still knocking them down. 1:20:49.840 --> 1:20:52.880 Like, so, you know, you gotta be very and that's 1:20:52.920 --> 1:20:56.000 to these creatives. Man, you gotta be very careful of 1:20:56.680 --> 1:20:59.880 how much you show and when you show it, because 1:21:00.520 --> 1:21:04.880 when people see what you really got, they'll close them doors. 1:21:04.920 --> 1:21:05.080 Man. 1:21:05.200 --> 1:21:07.960 Sure, And that's what that's what I find. Like, even 1:21:08.280 --> 1:21:11.240 with somebody like Joe. I know, everybody around Joe and 1:21:11.320 --> 1:21:14.360 all them people they say, you know, man, I'm I'm 1:21:14.360 --> 1:21:15.080 gonna tell you, man. 1:21:14.960 --> 1:21:16.840 We're gonna get I'm like, yo, I don't. 1:21:16.880 --> 1:21:19.040 I don't see him shed light on anything that he 1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:23.280 doesn't benefit from, right, So I don't see him shed 1:21:23.320 --> 1:21:25.559 And even I tell you what I heard him say 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:27.559 one time, he said he went to a dinner with 1:21:27.680 --> 1:21:30.240 a creator and the creator asks him how do I 1:21:30.320 --> 1:21:30.920 get ads? 1:21:31.000 --> 1:21:32.680 And he said, you want me to tell you how 1:21:32.720 --> 1:21:33.400 to get ads? 1:21:33.400 --> 1:21:35.920 And I to spend all my life doing this and 1:21:35.960 --> 1:21:38.280 you want me to just pass you the information. And 1:21:38.320 --> 1:21:42.000 I'm like, yeah, that's what the big homies supposed to do, right. 1:21:42.080 --> 1:21:45.400 So what happens is that's what I'm saying, And it hurts. 1:21:45.520 --> 1:21:48.800 It hurts the young creators because he talked so much 1:21:48.880 --> 1:21:49.719 creator talk. 1:21:50.400 --> 1:21:52.960 You see what I'm saying right now? 1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:55.760 You know, I think I think, you know, you know, 1:21:55.920 --> 1:21:58.320 like I said, he has this unique I'll give him this. 1:21:58.520 --> 1:22:03.880 He has this unique ability to take his friends and 1:22:05.640 --> 1:22:09.760 or do a podcast amongst his friends that translates good 1:22:09.840 --> 1:22:10.439 on camera. 1:22:10.560 --> 1:22:12.960 I'm not sure if everyone can do that, right. 1:22:13.840 --> 1:22:16.840 I think that what he what he's doing now is 1:22:16.880 --> 1:22:24.200 different than what he did then. I think that when 1:22:24.240 --> 1:22:27.320 I look at the show that he has now, if 1:22:27.360 --> 1:22:30.240 you said you don't watch it at all, no, damn, 1:22:30.320 --> 1:22:32.680 I was gonna ask you, uh, do you do you 1:22:32.880 --> 1:22:35.080 even think that them dudes are good at pard? 1:22:35.240 --> 1:22:35.720 Do you think? 1:22:36.240 --> 1:22:38.559 I mean, I know those dudes, I know, I know, 1:22:38.640 --> 1:22:42.200 I is you know, he's he's in tune with a 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:44.360 lot of the music, a lot of the new music 1:22:44.400 --> 1:22:46.519 that's out here with the young the younger generation. He's 1:22:46.520 --> 1:22:48.479 always been at that dude. He's always been the music 1:22:48.560 --> 1:22:50.679 dude that just listen to everybody. 1:22:51.120 --> 1:22:53.240 Just because you know music, don't mean you can pond. 1:22:53.360 --> 1:22:54.200 No, that's that's true. 1:22:54.439 --> 1:22:55.800 But it's is A. 1:22:56.680 --> 1:22:59.440 He's a he's a he's a he's a smart guy. 1:22:59.720 --> 1:23:01.720 He's a he's well spoken, he's articulate. 1:23:03.240 --> 1:23:03.479 You know. 1:23:03.880 --> 1:23:06.360 But I think I think that what he's trying to 1:23:06.360 --> 1:23:09.360 do is recreate the fact that there's a lot of years, 1:23:09.400 --> 1:23:13.679 there a lot of history amongst them, so that trying 1:23:13.680 --> 1:23:16.280 to reach that, which is which is important in podcasts 1:23:16.280 --> 1:23:18.679 and having the chemistry, having a real relationship with people 1:23:18.880 --> 1:23:22.800 that helps. I just think that I just think that 1:23:22.880 --> 1:23:26.080 they are kind of like I know Is more than 1:23:26.080 --> 1:23:28.840 anybody's looking at him a little funny, you know what 1:23:28.840 --> 1:23:29.160 I mean. 1:23:29.200 --> 1:23:30.720 I don't he don't do to him. 1:23:30.800 --> 1:23:33.000 I give him that, Oh yeah, because it's just he's 1:23:33.080 --> 1:23:34.800 he's he's very strong, opinionated. 1:23:34.800 --> 1:23:35.920 He's an opinionated guy. 1:23:37.720 --> 1:23:40.240 But I think more importantly, I think that you know, 1:23:40.400 --> 1:23:42.559 Is has a history with him as well. 1:23:42.640 --> 1:23:44.280 Where's like, I'm watching you. 1:23:44.600 --> 1:23:47.200 I'm watching you like I know because if you if 1:23:47.200 --> 1:23:49.760 you did it, if you did it to Mall, you 1:23:49.920 --> 1:23:51.760 definitely do it. But you're gonna try to do it 1:23:51.800 --> 1:23:55.360 with me, and it's going to happen. A zebra, a 1:23:55.439 --> 1:23:58.639 zebra can't change the stripes. Man, a player can't change 1:23:58.640 --> 1:24:00.840 his game and the knife and you know what I mean, 1:24:00.880 --> 1:24:03.120 it's just a matter of I think the only reason 1:24:03.120 --> 1:24:07.439 why it hasn't happened yet it'll be too obvious, you 1:24:07.439 --> 1:24:09.599 know what I mean. So it's goning it's gonna drag 1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:12.559 out a little longer because it'll be too obvious at 1:24:12.600 --> 1:24:12.960 this point. 1:24:12.960 --> 1:24:14.920 But it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:17.880 I'm already I'm already hearing things, you know what I mean, 1:24:17.880 --> 1:24:19.559 I'm already hearing what he was trying to pay those 1:24:19.600 --> 1:24:20.240 guys to go on to. 1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:25.519 I'm already here. What happened to that? That too? 1:24:25.600 --> 1:24:29.080 Would have wait, I don't know, man, tool wouldn't have 1:24:29.120 --> 1:24:31.360 fuck away. I know that about tickets. They send me 1:24:31.400 --> 1:24:32.160 my money back. 1:24:32.520 --> 1:24:34.320 Yeah, I don't know, man, you know, like I said, 1:24:34.320 --> 1:24:35.960 I don't I don't know what's going on over there. 1:24:36.280 --> 1:24:39.080 You know, it's Rory and Maul for over here. 1:24:39.200 --> 1:24:41.840 I'm coming to the show tomorrow too. Man, pull up. 1:24:43.320 --> 1:24:44.200 We're gonna have fun. 1:24:44.240 --> 1:24:46.439 Man, listen. That's the that's the beauty about this thing. Man. 1:24:46.439 --> 1:24:49.120 We uh, we just were moving around and we were 1:24:49.120 --> 1:24:50.760 trying to just like I said, you know you you 1:24:50.880 --> 1:24:53.360 DM me. I've been watching you. I've been seeing what 1:24:53.400 --> 1:24:55.000 you do. I love your episode with a Little Baby. 1:24:55.040 --> 1:24:58.080 That's a show that I you know, I'm super proud 1:24:58.120 --> 1:24:59.519 of it. I came out here when he shot the 1:24:59.600 --> 1:25:03.519 video with Saint John. Yeah, for Trap, and I told 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:05.960 the homies back in New York, I said, said that 1:25:06.040 --> 1:25:08.720 niggas official. Man, I like the little baby move. I say, 1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:11.599 he's official. I said them niggas was inside that motherfucking truck. 1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:13.160 They ain't get out until it was time to get 1:25:13.360 --> 1:25:16.040 say say yeah them niggas is moving right for sure. 1:25:16.280 --> 1:25:20.360 But but but seeing his documentary and then the interview 1:25:20.400 --> 1:25:22.479 with you and a few other interviews that I heard 1:25:22.720 --> 1:25:25.639 I heard, I just I fuck with him, man, because 1:25:25.680 --> 1:25:32.760 you can just tell his again you know, morals, yeah, integrity, yeah, and. 1:25:32.680 --> 1:25:35.120 He always on the right side of man. You know, 1:25:35.400 --> 1:25:36.680 it's family. You know. 1:25:37.640 --> 1:25:39.600 He put me in the hell of a position, you know, 1:25:39.680 --> 1:25:41.880 to roll out that album with me a number one 1:25:41.880 --> 1:25:44.000 album in the world at the time. It is like 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:48.040 reaching and giving me that look. It's like, man, look 1:25:48.080 --> 1:25:50.559 you that ship you doing. We got to turn that up. 1:25:51.080 --> 1:25:53.599 And what's been happening here is the coach is doing 1:25:53.640 --> 1:25:55.120 that and that's so important. 1:25:55.160 --> 1:25:57.920 Man. It's like, damn, I he's so now. You know. 1:25:58.040 --> 1:26:01.040 I always tell I always tell baby like I'm in 1:26:01.120 --> 1:26:03.519 debt with them for that, just on the strength of 1:26:03.640 --> 1:26:05.240 they could have win anywhere in the world. 1:26:05.280 --> 1:26:07.080 Man, dude, can go anywhere in the world. 1:26:07.160 --> 1:26:09.920 Man, Not only did they do that, they called me 1:26:10.080 --> 1:26:13.840 and said, put that motherfucker out first, like days before 1:26:13.880 --> 1:26:17.000 we even start doing media. You know what I'm saying, 1:26:17.040 --> 1:26:18.600 All of that so important. 1:26:18.640 --> 1:26:20.840 You know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn man, these are. 1:26:20.760 --> 1:26:23.120 Some real such See that goes back to what I'm saying. 1:26:24.680 --> 1:26:27.120 People are trying to make it seem like that's impossible, 1:26:27.800 --> 1:26:28.200 hard to do. 1:26:29.120 --> 1:26:29.240 Na. 1:26:29.800 --> 1:26:31.479 This is coming from the dude that got the number. 1:26:31.280 --> 1:26:32.880 One hour, you know what I'm saying, and he giving 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:34.479 you that look and said put it out first. I 1:26:34.479 --> 1:26:37.040 wanted that to be the first look. You see how 1:26:37.080 --> 1:26:39.200 simple that is. But when somebody want. 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:40.800 To do it, they gonna do it. They're gonna do 1:26:40.800 --> 1:26:41.080 it right. 1:26:41.120 --> 1:26:43.920 That's why we'll get the companies and we'll get off 1:26:44.000 --> 1:26:46.720 all of that, just get into business and companies and shit. 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:49.160 That's why some of these companies they try to say 1:26:49.200 --> 1:26:51.880 certain things like you'd be like, yo, you got to 1:26:51.880 --> 1:26:56.200 have a budget, like we need some money. But some 1:26:56.280 --> 1:26:59.040 of these companies, you know, they'll want to participate and 1:26:59.080 --> 1:27:01.439 not really have act like they don't have a budget. 1:27:01.479 --> 1:27:04.639 Were a company can't find no money, Well, we didn't know, listen, 1:27:04.680 --> 1:27:06.320 if this was Jay Z in front of you, a 1:27:06.360 --> 1:27:09.000 fan some money, come on. If this was Royal rend 1:27:09.080 --> 1:27:12.160 Maul who you know just so eighteen hundred tickets in 1:27:12.160 --> 1:27:14.639 the last three weeks. If this was Joe Buden, if 1:27:14.640 --> 1:27:16.920 this was fucking but because it's me and you don't 1:27:16.960 --> 1:27:19.040 know my reach, you're trying to say, Hey, I tell 1:27:19.080 --> 1:27:19.720 you what we'll do. 1:27:19.880 --> 1:27:22.879 We'll get you some ads right now. Fuck yours. 1:27:23.400 --> 1:27:25.519 I already gotten money and I'll reach out to the 1:27:25.560 --> 1:27:29.000 companies myself exactly right, because we have reach with each other. 1:27:29.000 --> 1:27:31.160 A company can't get in touch with you in the 1:27:31.200 --> 1:27:33.719 way that I did. A company couldn't get the little 1:27:33.720 --> 1:27:37.799 baby interview. A company can't get bag meet Mill, company 1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:41.719 can't get Fred Taylor, Brandon Marshall. You know, Andrew showed 1:27:41.840 --> 1:27:46.120 Charlemagne who up Wilo Like, no company is involved in that. 1:27:46.479 --> 1:27:49.120 So we got to see the value from the company 1:27:49.439 --> 1:27:53.400 on what they do for us, what y'all deal? Was 1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:57.680 there a clip value because I imagine y'all were paranoid 1:27:57.880 --> 1:28:01.360 or or either had a clip vision coming out of 1:28:01.360 --> 1:28:04.599 the situation with bro that or coming out of situation 1:28:04.680 --> 1:28:08.439 with him where y'all wanted to have a clear path 1:28:08.479 --> 1:28:10.559 as to what y'all wanted a deal to look like. 1:28:11.160 --> 1:28:14.200 Yeah, do y'all have the value that y'all want? With Serious? 1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:16.760 Do you do they understand y'all vision as well as 1:28:16.760 --> 1:28:18.479 the design people that work with y'all. 1:28:19.720 --> 1:28:21.160 I think they do. I think that was why we 1:28:21.200 --> 1:28:24.799 went with Serious. You know, we sat with our agent 1:28:25.439 --> 1:28:28.439 and the relationship was there, and then they understood what 1:28:28.479 --> 1:28:30.120 we wanted to do, and and the one thing that 1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:32.840 they said they loved the fact that, you know, what 1:28:32.960 --> 1:28:35.200 we were building. They wanted to just be a part 1:28:35.200 --> 1:28:37.360 of it and they wanted to help enhance it in 1:28:37.360 --> 1:28:40.240 any way that they could. So that was why we 1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:43.040 chose to go with Serious, because they just understood what 1:28:43.080 --> 1:28:43.839 we were doing. 1:28:45.240 --> 1:28:47.559 And they just believed in us, the US. 1:28:47.640 --> 1:28:51.160 Do you do you for people like at who called 1:28:51.200 --> 1:28:53.240 cap on the ten million dollar number? 1:28:54.560 --> 1:28:57.680 What what do you say to that? I never I 1:28:57.680 --> 1:28:59.800 don't know that dude. Yeah, well, what did you say 1:28:59.840 --> 1:29:02.760 to the ten million dollar number? Was that even a number? Y'all? Put? 1:29:02.840 --> 1:29:07.480 Where did they get that number from? So that announced 1:29:07.560 --> 1:29:09.040 number or reported number? Someone? 1:29:09.280 --> 1:29:09.920 No? 1:29:10.120 --> 1:29:13.200 I think I think what happened was, uh, my brother Bigs, 1:29:13.200 --> 1:29:17.400 he had he posted a tweet when we we had 1:29:17.400 --> 1:29:20.439 a photo shooting in interview, we did went out and 1:29:21.840 --> 1:29:24.720 the picture we were smiling, we were laughing, and I 1:29:24.760 --> 1:29:28.040 think bigs his thing was, this is what a fresh 1:29:28.080 --> 1:29:31.720 ten million dollars look like? Big yeah, So you know 1:29:31.760 --> 1:29:35.120 they that that kind of is what people started running with, 1:29:35.200 --> 1:29:37.280 but it's not. It's not far from that though, right 1:29:37.320 --> 1:29:40.280 shut out. That's all selling tickets. 1:29:40.479 --> 1:29:43.800 They can cap on line. They can act like we're 1:29:43.800 --> 1:29:45.200 talking about who gets some tickets? 1:29:45.280 --> 1:29:48.320 So I mean we talked about who could just come. 1:29:48.240 --> 1:29:51.880 Outside exactly period, fox some tickets. Okay, you even go 1:29:51.920 --> 1:29:54.799 to the store with this podcast, And that's why. 1:29:54.640 --> 1:29:57.160 I'm just like, you know, I'm still trying to figure 1:29:57.160 --> 1:30:00.360 out what this online ship is, right, because it's a 1:30:00.400 --> 1:30:04.000 weird area. I don't play this game, so you know, 1:30:04.040 --> 1:30:07.000 when dudes starts, I'm like, is he for real? 1:30:07.439 --> 1:30:08.400 Is like is it really on? 1:30:08.520 --> 1:30:11.320 If I see him? Is it just for something playing right? 1:30:11.400 --> 1:30:14.160 Because I don't know and ain't nobody else playing right. 1:30:14.040 --> 1:30:16.320 So you know, dudes like that when he's talking and 1:30:16.400 --> 1:30:18.800 you know, he said things and I'm just like, I 1:30:18.800 --> 1:30:20.519 don't know this, dude, I don't so I don't know 1:30:20.560 --> 1:30:25.040 what this is about him calling cap on the ten million. Okay, 1:30:26.280 --> 1:30:28.680 I can confirm that it's definitely not far from that 1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:29.160 at all. 1:30:29.600 --> 1:30:32.240 And his part is a snooze fist. I'll say that 1:30:32.479 --> 1:30:32.760 it's a. 1:30:33.400 --> 1:30:36.720 But his but see, And this is another thing where 1:30:36.720 --> 1:30:38.640 you got to look out for. Like, I like what 1:30:38.680 --> 1:30:43.080 you do because you sit down with the right people, right, 1:30:43.800 --> 1:30:48.880 and you had the right conversations. You know, dudes like him, 1:30:50.120 --> 1:30:53.760 he's just he's a fan. He just want to be 1:30:54.439 --> 1:30:58.280 affiliated in a round, right whoever he think is cool 1:30:58.280 --> 1:30:59.679 because he's not right. 1:31:00.600 --> 1:31:03.080 So you know, you say the same thing Rich Homie 1:31:03.120 --> 1:31:05.439 Kwong said. He was like, I kind of went up 1:31:05.640 --> 1:31:08.439 with a minute. It was like, I know, we got 1:31:08.479 --> 1:31:10.360 a big platform, so I go through that. 1:31:10.640 --> 1:31:12.320 Yeah, but I mean a big platform. 1:31:12.360 --> 1:31:14.920 You know McDonald McDonald's a big brand that ain't good 1:31:15.000 --> 1:31:18.639 food though, so it's like. 1:31:18.800 --> 1:31:20.280 Just readily available. 1:31:20.400 --> 1:31:23.160 It's just yeah, it's just like that don't mean that's 1:31:23.200 --> 1:31:23.840 good for you. 1:31:24.560 --> 1:31:26.760 And you know, I always talk about them guys being 1:31:26.800 --> 1:31:27.840 the first people to do it. 1:31:27.920 --> 1:31:30.920 It ain't that they were chosen. They were just here first. 1:31:31.000 --> 1:31:34.759 They just had a camera first, had understanding the YouTube first, 1:31:34.960 --> 1:31:39.679 and so the they're familiar to people. These guys don't 1:31:39.680 --> 1:31:43.679 have any context to anything. They don't have any real 1:31:43.800 --> 1:31:44.880 equity in the culture. 1:31:45.479 --> 1:31:48.160 What what what is what? What through a lot of 1:31:48.160 --> 1:31:49.599 these dudes, What are they bringing? 1:31:49.680 --> 1:31:52.240 What are they doing? What game? You're getting? What you're 1:31:52.280 --> 1:31:53.000 pulling from it? 1:31:53.120 --> 1:31:56.200 And it's and again, I just don't I don't like 1:31:56.240 --> 1:31:58.160 when you know, motherfuckers sit down and bring a lot 1:31:58.160 --> 1:32:04.320 of negative ship right mix, right, because we come from that, man, 1:32:04.360 --> 1:32:07.679 and that ain't nothing to play with, that ain't nothing 1:32:07.720 --> 1:32:10.559 to try to you know, throw fuel on that fire 1:32:10.680 --> 1:32:15.599 because you know, it's you know, it's just not it's 1:32:15.640 --> 1:32:18.040 not something that I want to even try to entertain 1:32:18.160 --> 1:32:21.240 because it's just I know what that is, you know 1:32:21.280 --> 1:32:22.600 what I mean. So that's why I said, when you know, 1:32:22.600 --> 1:32:25.920 I hear a lot of these dudes talking greasy, I 1:32:25.920 --> 1:32:29.040 don't understand it because it's like number one, I don't 1:32:29.040 --> 1:32:33.840 talk greasy about y'all. And then number two, I don't 1:32:33.840 --> 1:32:38.439 play that game because if I see you now it's 1:32:38.520 --> 1:32:41.479 supposed to happen, right. I don't know how to gauge 1:32:41.520 --> 1:32:44.960 this thing, like because now if I go to a 1:32:45.000 --> 1:32:48.040 place where you're like, nah, but it was just I'm like, 1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:49.960 but I don't know that because I don't play like that. 1:32:50.360 --> 1:32:52.680 I'm find of somebody talking about, you know, suck my 1:32:52.760 --> 1:32:53.679 dick and all this other. 1:32:54.479 --> 1:32:56.960 You going fine, it's like bro, you. 1:32:57.120 --> 1:32:59.360 But see if there's an old saying that people who 1:32:59.479 --> 1:33:04.400 never take war always want to get it going. See, 1:33:04.439 --> 1:33:06.560 they ain't never had to deal with the results of 1:33:06.640 --> 1:33:08.800 that exact, they ain't never had to lay in that bed, 1:33:09.160 --> 1:33:12.640 so they instantly want to how man Like I was 1:33:12.720 --> 1:33:15.160 just seeing they put rappers against each other, and it's 1:33:15.200 --> 1:33:16.360 just it be so much shit. 1:33:16.400 --> 1:33:19.120 I'd be like, yo, they can go to war man. 1:33:20.200 --> 1:33:22.280 Yeah, you at the house and playing. 1:33:22.120 --> 1:33:26.120 Game Twitch ten hours a day. I don't understand it. 1:33:26.240 --> 1:33:28.080 And that's why I can't. I can't support that. 1:33:28.360 --> 1:33:28.599 Now. 1:33:28.800 --> 1:33:33.080 I'm happy that a black man is able to, you know, 1:33:33.400 --> 1:33:35.800 make a living and support his family, support it. 1:33:35.920 --> 1:33:37.240 So but at what. 1:33:37.320 --> 1:33:39.840 Costs, right, and get around some niggas to get some 1:33:39.960 --> 1:33:43.160 game because you bullshit and you done had all this audience, 1:33:43.160 --> 1:33:44.000 ain't done nothing with it. 1:33:44.040 --> 1:33:45.920 This man said they had a podcast a year. 1:33:46.920 --> 1:33:49.320 Granted they had a brand moving into it, but they 1:33:49.360 --> 1:33:52.000 on tour already been in the UK probably the sold 1:33:52.200 --> 1:33:54.479 x amount of shirts, this amount of product, on this 1:33:54.600 --> 1:33:58.240 amount of people on Patreon like it's it's shit happened 1:33:58.240 --> 1:34:00.320 to here? You is with an audience. Ain't done nothing 1:34:00.320 --> 1:34:03.440 with it this seven year, just sitting there on Twitch drunk. 1:34:03.160 --> 1:34:05.120 And still ain't and still can't come up as a. 1:34:05.320 --> 1:34:08.759 Party in the industry building process. This is a new industry. 1:34:08.800 --> 1:34:13.320 Billionaires would be created, these niggas getting drunk, right, I 1:34:13.360 --> 1:34:15.840 don't even get it. Bro speaking of that, look at Yay, 1:34:15.960 --> 1:34:19.560 let's talk about that Yae. To me, it seemed like 1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:23.120 like I just tell you, he trying to break the chain. Yeah, 1:34:23.360 --> 1:34:26.120 Now how far did he go for that? How much 1:34:26.120 --> 1:34:27.120 did he risk for that? 1:34:27.640 --> 1:34:32.080 Is? Can he come back from that? See? 1:34:32.120 --> 1:34:36.439 The thing is, and what I don't think Kanye, excuse me, ya, 1:34:36.640 --> 1:34:40.479 I don't think what YA factored in is that black 1:34:40.520 --> 1:34:44.600 people we are so unorganized, We are so organized, and 1:34:44.600 --> 1:34:48.559 I don't think that enough of us are gonna back 1:34:48.760 --> 1:34:49.840 Yay and support Yay. 1:34:50.320 --> 1:34:52.840 Right, you know, but he's kind of been all over 1:34:52.880 --> 1:34:54.240 the place with his message too. 1:34:54.400 --> 1:34:57.720 Yeah, he's been a little all over because you know, 1:34:59.000 --> 1:35:03.000 I think Kanye has this thing where he's I think 1:35:03.040 --> 1:35:05.360 that he you know, I've always said it. I don't 1:35:05.360 --> 1:35:08.080 think he's a mean spirited person. I don't think he's 1:35:08.080 --> 1:35:10.880 a hateful person. I just think that he's very emotional, 1:35:11.400 --> 1:35:16.280 and I think that he speaks without any regard of 1:35:16.520 --> 1:35:20.040 who feels a type of way about it, right, And 1:35:20.080 --> 1:35:23.519 I think that when you somebody that caters to the public, 1:35:23.560 --> 1:35:26.160 when you've made your richest off of selling to the public, 1:35:26.479 --> 1:35:30.519 whether it be clothing or you know, music or whatever, 1:35:31.439 --> 1:35:35.120 you have to factor in who you're hurting in the 1:35:35.160 --> 1:35:41.240 public when when you speak. But I think that he 1:35:41.360 --> 1:35:45.400 has made some valid points. I think that some of 1:35:45.439 --> 1:35:48.479 his points I'm still trying to figure out and and understand. 1:35:50.600 --> 1:35:55.040 But again, I think the important part is he's a 1:35:55.080 --> 1:35:57.920 man who obviously feels some type of way about something 1:35:58.280 --> 1:36:00.400 about the way he's been treated, about the wayusiness is 1:36:00.439 --> 1:36:06.519 being done, the fact that, uh, his money is no 1:36:06.640 --> 1:36:08.919 good in the bank all of a sudden, it was crazy. 1:36:09.360 --> 1:36:11.759 Yeah, you know, I look at it like this, Right, 1:36:11.880 --> 1:36:13.960 we all need to be held accountable for things. 1:36:13.960 --> 1:36:15.880 If we cross the line or do something. 1:36:15.920 --> 1:36:18.800 Yeah, that's man shit, Yeah that manshit. But at the 1:36:18.880 --> 1:36:24.799 same time, the universe is perfect. So while they're canceling 1:36:24.880 --> 1:36:28.720 Kanye for being Antisemitican saying things that he shouldn't have 1:36:28.760 --> 1:36:31.000 said in the eyes of those people that been through 1:36:31.040 --> 1:36:34.280 those things were on the other side saying, but on 1:36:34.320 --> 1:36:38.000 Twitter they the word nigga usage is up five thousand 1:36:38.000 --> 1:36:40.800 percent and it ain't nobody in the uproar right, So 1:36:40.960 --> 1:36:45.400 where does language matter? Does it matter only on this side, 1:36:45.479 --> 1:36:49.040 or does it matter like because listen the same that 1:36:49.240 --> 1:36:52.440 we know the word nigga derives from us being disrespected. 1:36:52.439 --> 1:36:54.879 It ain't no intend on that if it's. 1:36:54.800 --> 1:36:58.320 Up five thousand percent with no records over there. But 1:36:58.520 --> 1:37:02.080 him saying I'm going death, which is a trick word. 1:37:02.120 --> 1:37:04.160 If you ask me, you ain't got no bitiness saying 1:37:04.240 --> 1:37:07.880 that word, what the fuck is defense readiness? How you 1:37:08.000 --> 1:37:10.600 going to be defending and ready? It just seemed like 1:37:10.640 --> 1:37:13.000 a I don't even use that word. So him going 1:37:13.040 --> 1:37:15.200 into trick bag with the word, or knowing what he 1:37:15.280 --> 1:37:17.760 was doing with the word, it says to me he 1:37:18.160 --> 1:37:22.400 offended them with that. But they using on Twitter and 1:37:22.520 --> 1:37:27.559 everybody quiet. It says to me, what does language really matter? 1:37:28.080 --> 1:37:30.360 But I think that's I think the important thing with 1:37:30.760 --> 1:37:34.960 Yay is that he's starting a common conversation about things 1:37:34.960 --> 1:37:37.240 that are happening, things that are going on, and I 1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:37.600 think that. 1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:38.840 You know. 1:37:39.000 --> 1:37:42.679 Sometimes again, when people don't want to address the issue, 1:37:43.360 --> 1:37:46.519 they'll play semantics with words and hold on to certain 1:37:46.560 --> 1:37:50.760 words and move the focus. All right, I understand that, 1:37:50.800 --> 1:37:54.160 But the focus of what he's saying addressing is this. 1:37:54.760 --> 1:37:57.240 I understand he may have said some things that offended 1:37:57.280 --> 1:38:01.680 some people and that that was wrong. Cool, we understand that, 1:38:02.240 --> 1:38:07.360 But let's get to what he's really addressing him and 1:38:07.800 --> 1:38:11.200 he y'all proving his point because y'all were able to 1:38:11.240 --> 1:38:15.040 take him from being worth eight nine billion to now 1:38:15.080 --> 1:38:16.960 what four hundred million. 1:38:16.680 --> 1:38:19.599 Because y'all said, so man, and that's so crazy, because 1:38:19.600 --> 1:38:23.439 you say this what I noticed about Kanye and it 1:38:23.520 --> 1:38:26.439 makes me really be like, wow, he still ain't panicked 1:38:27.080 --> 1:38:29.640 in the eyes of our public. Every time he come 1:38:29.720 --> 1:38:33.760 out in public. It's still because poker faith. He knows something, 1:38:33.760 --> 1:38:36.240 you know, right, he knows something we don't, right, And 1:38:36.320 --> 1:38:40.320 so I said, damn, hold on, he ain't panicking and 1:38:40.800 --> 1:38:43.840 he stood on status. He would come around us. I'm 1:38:43.840 --> 1:38:45.759 the richest black man, I'm the richest. I'm the richest. 1:38:45.760 --> 1:38:48.559 They snatched that, and he didn't panic, So they say 1:38:48.680 --> 1:38:50.320 something he's stood on. 1:38:51.280 --> 1:38:53.799 But I also understood that he would stand on status 1:38:53.800 --> 1:38:54.160 with us. 1:38:54.160 --> 1:38:56.599 But then when he talked to Piers Morgan, he would clarify, 1:38:56.600 --> 1:38:58.479 I only got one hundred and twenty million in the bank. 1:38:58.840 --> 1:39:01.200 So he understood what he was doing when he when 1:39:01.200 --> 1:39:04.400 he was braggadocious and stood on their status. But by 1:39:04.439 --> 1:39:07.479 him not panicing says he has a plan. I don't 1:39:07.520 --> 1:39:09.679 know the plan. I think he's trying to break the chain, 1:39:10.000 --> 1:39:13.840 but I'm not understanding. Even speaking of deals, Adidas is 1:39:13.880 --> 1:39:18.000 saying that they're going to sell his shoe and not 1:39:18.120 --> 1:39:21.880 pay him. He says in the contract he's still supposed 1:39:21.920 --> 1:39:26.280 to get a reduced rate. They going to ignore the contract. 1:39:26.200 --> 1:39:30.080 Because they can. But see, this is what I'm saying is, 1:39:30.240 --> 1:39:33.519 you know, bigger conversations to have. And that's what I 1:39:33.560 --> 1:39:36.000 think the ultimate thing of him doing all of this 1:39:36.320 --> 1:39:40.479 is just to start having these conversations about control and 1:39:40.560 --> 1:39:43.160 who has the control and who has the power, and 1:39:43.200 --> 1:39:46.080 who are the creatives and who are the geniuses? And 1:39:46.320 --> 1:39:48.640 you know, we need to change some things, you know 1:39:48.680 --> 1:39:50.639 what I mean, Like if we able to have all 1:39:50.640 --> 1:39:54.439 this influence and all of this creative control around the 1:39:54.479 --> 1:39:57.920 world and all the influence on culture, we should be 1:39:58.200 --> 1:40:00.679 you know, paid for it. We should should have more 1:40:01.320 --> 1:40:03.599 ownership of it, we should have more rights to it. 1:40:04.240 --> 1:40:06.840 And I think that's the ultimate uh gist of his 1:40:07.240 --> 1:40:10.280 his his whole rant and the thing that he's on 1:40:10.400 --> 1:40:12.080 right now is just you know, he's just trying to 1:40:12.080 --> 1:40:15.599 wake wake people up to that, like, yeah, just because 1:40:15.600 --> 1:40:17.799 they give you a hundred million, two hundred million dollars 1:40:17.800 --> 1:40:23.120 to play this sport, you really generated six billion dollars. 1:40:23.880 --> 1:40:27.080 And Faarakham made a good point said, yo, when they 1:40:27.120 --> 1:40:28.720 say you're big and and you really ain't. 1:40:29.120 --> 1:40:30.320 You don't even see that money. 1:40:30.320 --> 1:40:31.880 They give you a whole bunch of money you don't 1:40:32.000 --> 1:40:35.320 you can't touch, so they can't take it like that, right, 1:40:35.400 --> 1:40:38.000 they can just press the button and then you three 1:40:38.040 --> 1:40:39.320 hundred million, they can just take it. 1:40:39.760 --> 1:40:42.360 That ship is wow, man, it's wicked. Man. We really 1:40:42.360 --> 1:40:42.880 think about it. 1:40:42.960 --> 1:40:46.479 Some, it's some's some it's you know again that's you know, 1:40:46.560 --> 1:40:48.439 that's that's a little further up the pole that we 1:40:48.479 --> 1:40:51.519 ain't there yet. But I coming, oh, no, for sure, 1:40:51.600 --> 1:40:54.840 and and I and I love the fact that just 1:40:54.920 --> 1:40:57.920 these conversations and start because why not let you know, 1:40:57.960 --> 1:41:00.880 and and again, you know, people don't want to have 1:41:00.960 --> 1:41:05.280 certain conversations because certain truths shall be revealed, right, you know. 1:41:05.320 --> 1:41:05.960 But when you're on the. 1:41:05.960 --> 1:41:09.080 Side of the truth, you want to have those conversations. 1:41:09.080 --> 1:41:11.120 You want to say, Yo, let's have them on your camera, 1:41:11.200 --> 1:41:13.640 your camera, let's have in front of your people, on 1:41:13.720 --> 1:41:14.560 your side. 1:41:14.320 --> 1:41:14.840 Of the street. 1:41:15.000 --> 1:41:16.559 Let's have it, and then let's make it right. 1:41:16.560 --> 1:41:19.160 Right, and let's grab the information out of it, because 1:41:19.160 --> 1:41:19.920 we are leading. 1:41:20.840 --> 1:41:24.120 Yeah, we lead, and let's learn from it. Like I understand, 1:41:24.160 --> 1:41:24.639 I'm leading. 1:41:24.640 --> 1:41:26.720 That's why when I had these conversations, I have them 1:41:26.720 --> 1:41:28.720 from that perspective because I know I was on the 1:41:28.760 --> 1:41:31.680 other side when he was saying Spotify one, I'm like 1:41:31.760 --> 1:41:35.080 screaming at the screen like them niggas want to be paid. 1:41:37.080 --> 1:41:39.200 Like like I say, you could be screaming at. 1:41:39.040 --> 1:41:43.559 Your mother about something and your girlfriend say, ain't no way, I'm. 1:41:43.360 --> 1:41:47.400 Marrying him, right, he'll treat he. Yeah, you see what 1:41:47.439 --> 1:41:47.800 I'm saying. 1:41:48.000 --> 1:41:50.360 So when you say fuck a contract and I'm sitting 1:41:50.400 --> 1:41:52.120 next to you can't get accounting. 1:41:52.800 --> 1:41:56.559 It's saying, damn, fuck a contract. I know it ain't 1:41:56.600 --> 1:41:58.400 meant for me, but it apply to me. 1:41:58.479 --> 1:42:01.120 It applies to me because I'm in it. Yeah, Like 1:42:01.200 --> 1:42:03.479 I like I said, you know, it's nothing is by accident. 1:42:03.520 --> 1:42:03.680 Man. 1:42:03.840 --> 1:42:07.240 Everything is uh, everything has its beautiful purpose, you know 1:42:07.280 --> 1:42:09.679 what I mean? So I just you know, I learned 1:42:09.680 --> 1:42:12.479 from everything. Everything is a learning a learning process for me. 1:42:12.560 --> 1:42:13.240 I love learning. 1:42:13.439 --> 1:42:16.519 I love getting new information, you know, and I just 1:42:16.600 --> 1:42:18.880 like applying it and moving forward and just growing and 1:42:18.920 --> 1:42:19.679 watching myself. 1:42:19.960 --> 1:42:22.040 What do I look like a year from now? Man? 1:42:22.120 --> 1:42:23.880 Y'all winning, y'all show winning. 1:42:23.920 --> 1:42:26.680 We were building, man, We we more importantly, we just 1:42:26.720 --> 1:42:29.920 we just growing man as men were growing as a 1:42:29.920 --> 1:42:33.760 as a I me and our families, you know what 1:42:33.800 --> 1:42:37.240 I mean? You know, just doing things we never thought 1:42:37.240 --> 1:42:39.120 we would do. You know, I never thought that people 1:42:39.120 --> 1:42:41.400 would be waiting for me in London, you know what 1:42:41.439 --> 1:42:41.680 I mean. 1:42:41.760 --> 1:42:43.640 Like I'm a fucking I'm a nigga holl uptown New 1:42:43.720 --> 1:42:44.160 York man. 1:42:44.240 --> 1:42:46.519 Like yeah, Like, I just you know, it's it's a 1:42:46.600 --> 1:42:51.160 it's a humbling experience, man, a beautiful experience. But you know, 1:42:51.920 --> 1:42:55.320 it's just it's just part of what I always knew, 1:42:55.640 --> 1:42:57.600 you know what I mean as far as like just 1:42:57.680 --> 1:43:02.519 staying solid, uh, you know, standing on principals, standing on morals, 1:43:02.680 --> 1:43:05.360 being a being a good person. And that's gonna resonate 1:43:05.400 --> 1:43:07.960 with somebody somewhere, you know what I mean. And it 1:43:08.000 --> 1:43:10.880 may not turn into you know, a hundred million views. 1:43:11.400 --> 1:43:15.200 You know, if it turned into seven hundred people in 1:43:15.280 --> 1:43:16.920 the theater in London, I'm. 1:43:16.800 --> 1:43:19.679 Happy, man. You want, Yeah, you want, I'm happy. Man. 1:43:19.720 --> 1:43:21.599 I appreciate you coming back, man. 1:43:21.840 --> 1:43:23.120 I appreciate you reaching out. 1:43:23.200 --> 1:43:23.400 Man. 1:43:23.800 --> 1:43:26.080 You know, I'm glad we finally got got a chance 1:43:26.120 --> 1:43:29.839 to connect. Love what you're doing. Brothers. You know, anytime 1:43:29.880 --> 1:43:33.240 you need anything from me, my platform is your platform, 1:43:34.040 --> 1:43:35.719 and you know, just keep doing what you're doing, because 1:43:35.720 --> 1:43:39.360 it's important to have real individuals in this space and 1:43:39.360 --> 1:43:42.080 in this culture that are doing and saying the right 1:43:42.120 --> 1:43:44.519 things but also standing on it, you know what I mean. 1:43:44.600 --> 1:43:47.120 So when I see see brothers like yourself doing things 1:43:47.160 --> 1:43:49.360 like that, you know I'm gonna pull up no matter. 1:43:49.439 --> 1:43:52.240 You see, I came straight to you by myself. You 1:43:52.280 --> 1:43:52.880 know what I'm saying. 1:43:52.920 --> 1:43:57.240 Like, Yeah, Man, whenever, whenever, Man, you know, I'm dead, 1:43:57.280 --> 1:43:59.759 whenever y'all the show You're. 1:43:59.600 --> 1:44:01.240 Coming out them all, Man, We're gonna have some fun 1:44:01.280 --> 1:44:02.800 to moll ship fun. 1:44:02.840 --> 1:44:06.320 I appreciate you coming out, man. Experienced podcast, do something 1:44:06.320 --> 1:44:06.960 with that game. 1:44:07.200 --> 1:44:07.840 Skid it