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Speaker 1: Yo, yo yo.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Experience podcast where you have to have

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Speaker 2: the experience to be on the podcast. I am your

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Speaker 2: active and attractive hosts for another episode. You know, we

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Speaker 2: do everybody in the culture that has a voice that

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Speaker 2: does things at are high level. Today we got somebody

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Speaker 2: who was instrumental in what we know to be as

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Speaker 2: podcast right for our culture. We got the homeboy mab

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 1: I'm chilling? Man, what's good? Man?

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Speaker 3: You know, just finally all tapped in with you. Man,

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Speaker 3: got a chance to come down here to Atlanta, and

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Speaker 3: we've been trying to make it happen for a little minute.

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Speaker 1: Finally here, Man, I love it. I love it. I

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Speaker 1: need that love. Man, the game been good to me.

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Speaker 2: And again, man, y'all, y'all all in the culture that

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Speaker 2: really have a voice that I thought was real from

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Speaker 2: the outside, always keep confirming to me that it is

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Speaker 2: real ones in the game.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate you stopping by no question.

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Speaker 2: You know, first of all, Man, we want to get

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Speaker 2: into the business side of what it is you do.

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Speaker 1: Right. Podcasting is a big arena. It's a new industry.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I have a particular issue with some people that's partying

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Speaker 2: in the industry building process. We need to be working.

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Speaker 2: When I look at you you down here in Atlanta

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Speaker 2: eight hundred tickets. Talk to me about that.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, Rory and myself knew Rory Podcast. Shout

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Speaker 3: out to my brother Rory. We just got back from

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Speaker 3: London last well earlier this week almost a lord with

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Speaker 3: seven hundred tickets sold out in London at the Earth Theater.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody in London that came out. It's

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Speaker 3: a beautiful night. Love over there was amazing, had an

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Speaker 3: amazing time. Yeah, man, we were just building. Man. We're

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Speaker 3: trying to just you know, build something. It's beautiful to

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Speaker 3: watch it grow, It's beautiful to employ you know, people

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Speaker 3: that have the same goals and visions and dreams and

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Speaker 3: you know, want to have fun doing this and just

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Speaker 3: have passion and respect for each other. Right, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: we building, man. We all having fun man, traveling the world.

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Speaker 2: The business side of this game is off the left

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Speaker 2: side of people conversation, right, And those people that do

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Speaker 2: talk about the business side, I'm not sure I see

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Speaker 2: them executing in the same way that they communicating, right,

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Speaker 2: So When I look at y'all, I say, yo, them dudes,

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Speaker 2: I look at your brand, right, y'all been able to

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Speaker 2: brand it even as far as the orange that Rory used,

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Speaker 2: it's a theme, yeah, right, even the red head like

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Speaker 2: it's a theme. Right, there's a branding thing happening. On

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Speaker 2: top of that, there's a situation where y'all selling tickets,

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Speaker 2: selling merch right in each each of these facets, y'all

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Speaker 2: tend to have different designs, different approaches and just elevating

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Speaker 2: the way that podcasting is looking.

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Speaker 1: How much of that is you and how much of

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Speaker 1: that is Rory?

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Speaker 3: It's you know, it's pretty much both of us, are

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Speaker 3: we all? You know, even on certain things on the

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Speaker 3: merch side that I come up with and my partner

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Speaker 3: out in LA and and G. You know, we all

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Speaker 3: you know, we run with. It doesn't matter you know

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Speaker 3: whose idea it was. If it's dope, it makes sense

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Speaker 3: for the brand and something that we think that people

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Speaker 3: were we and that they're gonna support, Like we just

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Speaker 3: put it out there. But creatively, Rory and myself just

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Speaker 3: you know pretty much is us, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: add things here and there, but they get our personality.

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Speaker 3: They know what we're trying to look like, what we're

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Speaker 3: just like it's like a whole bunch of you know,

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Speaker 2: Man, And it feels like that even when y'all left

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Speaker 2: the Joe Budden podcasts, right, even the approach of the

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Speaker 2: looking back at it, it's like y'all were early on

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Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, the White Boys do it like

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Speaker 3: That's something that we want to, you know, ultimately get

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Speaker 3: which was what the the got fired skit was when

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Speaker 3: we first quote unquote got fired. So we decided to

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Speaker 3: and that was all. You know, people reached out and

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Speaker 3: sayd who wrote that? Who wrote that?

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Speaker 1: It was like that. You know, we freestyled the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: None of that was written.

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Speaker 3: That was all just circumstantial, and you know, we just

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Speaker 2: That's dope, That's super dope. Let's get into the departure

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Speaker 2: of Joe butten podcast. Let's be clear, when did you

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Speaker 2: come into the Joe Buden pocket? What episode was? At

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Speaker 2: first it was the name was our name this podcast?

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Speaker 2: Like when did you arrive on the scene?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember?

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Speaker 3: Think it was like episode seventy seven maybe okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And so sweat equity was mentioned, right, blood sweating tears,

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Speaker 3: and your departure from there was an unfortunate one.

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Speaker 1: And it was it was ugly.

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Speaker 2: It was fortunate, right, we just talked about it, you say,

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Speaker 2: you know, very fortunate, right, right. You told me when

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Speaker 2: I was out there smoking, you said, loan, I would

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Speaker 2: have been okay with helping home.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've always That's all I've ever been. Uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, I've always wanted to be somebody that helped.

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Speaker 3: Like if it's somebody you know, if I fuck with you,

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Speaker 3: or if I feel like, you know, I believe in

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: It's not about me getting nothing financially from it all

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Speaker 3: the time necessarily. I just feel like if I'm able

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Speaker 3: more anyway, It's like, yo, if I if I have

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Speaker 3: especially when it's you know, quote unquote friends, and I

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Speaker 3: feel like that goes without saying it's like, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: have fun.

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Speaker 1: Why not? It's a win win situation.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was all about me just you know,

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Speaker 3: it made for a complete a complete circle.

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Speaker 2: And now do you have clarity because over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of months, that's been shots took by you by

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Speaker 2: Joe Budden just about what y'all perceived to be the truth.

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Speaker 1: You say that Joe stealing. He said that he's not stealing.

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Speaker 2: Of course you say, I'll come up that showed me

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Speaker 2: the books. Do it on your platform and then made

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Speaker 2: for great content.

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Speaker 1: Put it behind your paywall. Do what you will.

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Speaker 3: Let's not put listen man, you know, and I want

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Speaker 3: to be very this is not you know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: It's no ill feelings, it's no beef, it's no you know,

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Speaker 3: it's all love.

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Speaker 1: Man. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, at one point, you know, we was

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Speaker 3: all real friends, and you know so that that doesn't

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Speaker 3: not a beef thing. I think that everything happened for

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Speaker 3: It's just the unfortunate part of it is, you know

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Speaker 3: when just just just lies start to come into play

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Speaker 3: is the truth, though, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 3: as I always tell my brother Rory, you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: because we have talks and he you know, Rory gets

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Speaker 1: Just keep going through this bullshit with this dude.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just like, but Rory, when the truth is

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. So you know it is what

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Speaker 3: it is. But yeah, I mean, the truth is the truth.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we where we were taking advantage of

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Speaker 3: stolen from us and taking from us, and it's fucked up.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I mean, if that's the way it

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Speaker 3: our lives, and so be it.

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Speaker 1: You don't fuck around and made you, taught you how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean put you in a situation now where

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Speaker 3: The thing is, I always knew how to fish, right,

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Speaker 3: But you know sometimes I don't mind, you know, getting

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Speaker 3: I mean. So you know if you felt like you know,

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Speaker 3: and you know what I'm saying you, it's like.

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Speaker 2: And so but in podcast and what it be in

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Speaker 2: a new industry, it's like we you know, I gotta

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Speaker 2: give Joe some credit in regards to he did kind

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Speaker 2: of make it not easier, but y'all together you lifted less, right,

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Speaker 2: And so what I'm saying is like this new industry,

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Speaker 2: nobody kind of understood how to move. Fortunately, whatever deal

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Speaker 2: what you're saying is still wouldn't stick to the deal

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Speaker 2: that he had in place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think I think when we uh looking back, I

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Speaker 3: think when we signed our percentage agreement with each other,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that he anticipated the amount of money

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Speaker 3: think once that money came into play, I think that

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Speaker 3: something inside of him just wasn't comfortable. And it's crazy

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Speaker 3: when you think about it, but I think something inside

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Speaker 3: of him was like he wasn't comfortable seeing us get

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Speaker 3: that money, you know what I mean. And it's fucked up,

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Speaker 3: But that happens with us a lot, man, Like it's

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Speaker 3: a deeper, whole, deeper you know, story behind that. It's

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Speaker 3: like in our culture, you know, we say we want

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Speaker 3: whole buffet. It's like, damn, I was gonna get these

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Speaker 3: I don't care how long I know you, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I was with this guy when he will raggedly ragged

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Speaker 2: If you go back and say I ain't never been

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a squashit with you as Charlamagne. Man,

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Speaker 2: And he was intentional with I'll give him some credit

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Speaker 2: He was intentional on camera with that. He's smart enough

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Speaker 2: And it even translated to someone like a Charlemagne that

436
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 2: was like, you know what mal is that nigga too?

437
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,200
Speaker 2: Now even though you that nigga, he was putting something

438
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 2: on it.

439
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, and I you know, and and again it

440
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,919
Speaker 3: was all it made for what it became exactly like

441
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 3: it was all part of it was a beautiful thing.

442
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,960
Speaker 3: I just think that ultimately, which happens a lot in

443
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 3: our community and on our culture, ego just killed and destroyed.

444
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 3: And it you know, it kills from within, it destroys

445
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 3: from within. And you know that's a fight that I

446
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 3: can't stand in front of. Ego is something that you

447
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 3: gotta battle with person. So I just step out the

448
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 3: way and I let you, you know, have that battle

449
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 3: with yourself, right.

450
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,199
Speaker 2: You know, even speaking about about the lifting thing, there

451
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 2: was a moment. Do you remember when he got fired

452
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 2: from Everyday Struggle?

453
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? What was the atmosphere? Do you remember the atmosphere? Then?

454
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 3: Vaguely I remember, And again that's interesting because we only

455
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 3: got his side of the story, but I vaguely remember

456
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 3: he came in and was like, you know, we started

457
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: talking about it on the show, like you know, they

458
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 3: they wouldn't let the creators create and you know, they

459
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,199
Speaker 3: won't let me smoke in the bathroom and it was

460
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 3: just a whole bunch and I was just like, okay, whatever,

461
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, that wasn't my business.

462
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 2: And you know me no understanding the information. And I

463
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: want the young creators and everybody watching this if you

464
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 2: know my brain, if you hear and you don't know

465
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 2: my brain. Were about information, right, We're about elevation. Anything

466
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 2: we speak about, we extract and experience from things that

467
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 2: we can explain so people can evolve.

468
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: That's all this is about. Right.

469
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 2: But with the everyday struggle situation, y'all gave him a blanket.

470
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 2: I know, you you know, let him go on his rants.

471
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: He was talking and all of that, but it was

472
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 2: a situation where he needed y'all more than he can

473
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 2: explain in that moment. At that point, he had just

474
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 2: had a baby. He had just had this situation where

475
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 2: he thought he was getting further in the building and

476
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he thought he had leverage.

477
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 2: And that's something that happens with him. For some reason,

478
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: he missed places where he think his leverage. Is not

479
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: that he doesn't have leverage, there's just something happening with

480
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: his idea of leverage. I don't when he goes to

481
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 2: try to utilize what he think his leverage is. There's

482
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: something happening, right, and so with complex they let him go,

483
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 2: you know whatever in receipt of your email, because I've

484
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 2: been looking at some of the shit knowing that we

485
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: were gonna sit down, and when he came.

486
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: And sat down with y'all, that was home. He still

487
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: had that.

488
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 2: And I continue to let people know that it's hard

489
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 2: to do a podcast by yourself. It's damnar impossible. And

490
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: if it was possible, I think that he would have

491
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: done it by himself.

492
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: By now.

493
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,479
Speaker 2: He had y'all to lean on in that moment, and

494
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 2: in my opinion, I just wanted I wonder did y'all

495
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: know how important y'all were to him in that moment

496
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: for him to be able to land right there with

497
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: his two homeboys comfortable way he has conversations week after

498
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: week after week and be able to talk to the

499
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 2: fans and create the narrative that he was able to create.

500
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 3: I mean, we thought we were pretty important, but now

501
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 3: you listen to the things that he says now about us,

502
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 3: we weren't that important. So you know, I mean again, man,

503
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 3: you know, we just try to play our part. And

504
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 3: as far as being friends in that moment, like you know,

505
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 3: it started the whole podcasting thing for us again, it

506
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 3: started as therapy. It was therapeutic for us to get

507
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: to get together once and twice a week and just

508
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: kick it and talk about shit.

509
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: You know.

510
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: But when money comes into play, man, it changes you know,

511
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 3: so many things. It's amazing how many things and emotions

512
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 3: just change and sway because.

513
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: Money is on the table now. But for me, it didn't.

514
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: You know, obviously I didn't care about money. It was

515
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 3: all about just the principles and integrity. And you know,

516
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: people see, oh, if it wasn't about the money, then

517
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: why you keep asking to see the counting. And it's like,

518
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 3: because we're trying to just show, like fam, we know

519
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: we were being stolen from and this is why we

520
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: chose to say, yo, just show the accountant.

521
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: Let's make it correct and move forward, right.

522
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: And I want people to understand that if Joe was

523
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 2: to sue, he would expose what needs to be like

524
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: that would force a discovery, yeah, which the accountant would

525
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 2: have to come into play.

526
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean he know, he he he can't sue.

527
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: He can't sue us. It's impossible.

528
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 3: He he knows the real and the people, the people

529
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: that know him know the real They know his business

530
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 3: practices throughout the years. They know that Maul has never

531
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 3: sat down and you know, sat on the mic and

532
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: talked bad about anybody, you know what I mean. It's

533
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: definitely not somebody that I looked at as a friend.

534
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: Like I hate that you google my name and it

535
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 3: come that type of shit comes up, you know.

536
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't. I never wanted to

537
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: be a party shit like that.

538
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 3: But we know that, you know, we built something that

539
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 3: was big in the culture, and you know, it ended

540
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 3: the way it did. But like I said, it was

541
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 3: a fortunate situation for Rory myself because we landed and

542
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 3: ownership and and just you know, just respect. It's so

543
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 3: it's just so much respect, you know, like, uh, the

544
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: people we work with, you know, my guy edit videographer,

545
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 3: my boss and my boy. Like I'm not your boss man, partners.

546
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: I need you just as much as you need me,

547
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I don't even like

548
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: walking around with that boss title, Like I don't.

549
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: I don't.

550
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: I don't need that. Like I want everybody to feel

551
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: like they could come to me. They could talk to

552
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 3: me whenever they want. You have my number. You can

553
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: call me any time of the day if you have

554
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: something on your mind, if you have something creatively you

555
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: want to throw on the table. It doesn't matter if

556
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: you're on camera or not. If you're in this room

557
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 3: and you're you're a part of this, this, this, this,

558
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: this brain trust in this, in this you know this

559
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: this thing we building. Like your opinion matters. You're in

560
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: this room for a reason. So I think you create

561
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: that space for people and it allows for so many

562
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: more ideas and positive energy to flow in and to

563
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: feed something beautiful.

564
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

565
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: Did you did you believe at the beginning that you

566
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: had an ownership deal or a partnership.

567
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: No, we had a percentage agreement. Any money that came

568
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: in for the podcast we split.

569
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: Was that understood from the beginning or was ownership ever thought?

570
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: Did you ever think that you owned a part of

571
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: it or did you always think this was a percentage

572
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: based type of situation.

573
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: It was a percentage based it was it was some

574
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: excuse me for not to cut you off.

575
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: Some people try to say that you guys thought that

576
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: you owned some of it.

577
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, we knew exactly what it was.

578
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 3: And again that's because of the creatives. It's it's we

579
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 3: had a contract in place before any money came into play,

580
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 3: and we and Rory myself took a very humble percentage

581
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: of very uh you know, we understood we're not you know,

582
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 3: we don't have a name, and we weren't artists and

583
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: rappers and things like that. So we took our very

584
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: humble percentage and proceeded to move forward and grow it

585
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 3: until a deal came across the table that you know,

586
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: ultimately was signed. Again, I just think that that money

587
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: was something that you know, I was never thought about

588
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: coming into play, and when it did, I don't think

589
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: that he was happy splitting that with us the way

590
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: that it was agreed upon. So you know, it happened,

591
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 3: It fell aparton, It is what it is.

592
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: You know, I believe.

593
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 2: Joe camp Pod in the same way right, I think

594
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: Ish doesn't allow Joe and I have a relationship with

595
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: is shut out the Ish, right, got a relationship with

596
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: him over there. He reaches out to me, we speak sometimes,

597
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: but I don't believe he can part in the same way.

598
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: I think.

599
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: I think Ish kind of doesn't give him the isolation

600
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 2: type of vibe that you guys gave, right. I think

601
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: you guys understand podcasts, especially the way that he podcasts,

602
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: not necessarily that everything he says is gonna be the truth.

603
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes he's getting into a theatric bag and he's doing

604
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: this little one too. Now, you did say that when

605
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 2: he got into some of them conversations, you guys were

606
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: sitting back like, hold on, we've been on you about

607
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: some of these things that you explaining to the public.

608
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, see it it was so many things. Like a

609
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: lot of people think that that just happened. When it happened,

610
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: and that was years. That was years of us trying

611
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: to That was like a year and a half almost

612
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: two years of us trying to get that right and

613
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: get the business right. So you know, when those rants

614
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: were happening, Uh, you go back and look at some

615
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: of those and you know, I'm sitting here being quiet

616
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: because I'm like, you know, people were always telling themselves

617
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 3: if you let them talk them Yeah, So I did

618
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: a lot of listening, and you know, and we we

619
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: were careful because we were creating or what we thought

620
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 3: was we were creating was something that was built on

621
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 3: honor and principle and to know what we were dealing

622
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: with internally, we thought that if the public found out,

623
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 3: it's like, well, wait, how y'all sitting here preaching about

624
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: you know, honor and respect and keeping it real and

625
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: not you know, getting sucked off and we and now

626
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: we're going through the bullshit. So it was hard to

627
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: kind of sit here and you know, but just like, okay,

628
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: you know, just let the rent happen and you know,

629
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: whatever whatever for the sake of the message getting out

630
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: there and you know, the people receiving the message, and

631
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: we didn't want to put our personal thing in the

632
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: way of that. But that was the reason for a

633
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: lot of those you know, just let happen. Yeah, because

634
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: it was like, you know, keep talking, because I'm also

635
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: receiving information here too in the moment, you know what

636
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 3: I mean.

637
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: So and this is the thing, right, I'm looking at

638
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: it and me just having supreme game. I'm sitting back

639
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: and saying, see, sometimes you sometimes you cuss, you cuss

640
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: at your mother and your girlfriend here And she said,

641
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: oh my god.

642
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, look I he talked to his mother.

643
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so when you saying things like yo, I

644
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: left complex because Spotify brought in a check and they

645
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: didn't want to give the people on.

646
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: The show a piece of the check.

647
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: When we're the reason Spotify brought the check and then

648
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: you got people on your show it's saying, hey, what's

649
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: going on with the check?

650
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: Because Spotify cut a check. It's the same, it's the

651
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: same thing.

652
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, it's funny how you turn into the

653
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: same people that were talking about.

654
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: But it's almost like in his brain. And that's why

655
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: I got to ask him. He needs some he needs

656
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: some real questions asked to him without the wiggle room.

657
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Right. Oh, he's gonna spend.

658
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: He's gonna try to He's gonna try to spend, try

659
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: to spend. He's gonna try to good he's good at spending.

660
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: He gonna try to because I think he talks to

661
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: you know, he has this thing where he talks to

662
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: grown men, and I think he think he talking to

663
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: women that he's dating. You know, you can spend a

664
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: woman that you date around her, but when you're talking

665
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: to real dudes, and it don't work. And that's and

666
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: that's it's not gonna work with me.

667
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: So sometimes when when you know he would he would

668
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: get in those modes talking about that.

669
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: I always looked at y'all.

670
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 2: Let's kind of speak on academics, do y'all do you

671
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: think that he was feeding information to act?

672
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 3: Of course, man, you know, and I don't. I don't

673
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: talk about that, dude, but you know, I just you

674
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: know again, this this, this this media podcast thing is

675
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 3: weird man, because these dudes will start talking about you

676
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: talking crazy and you never even they don't.

677
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: You don't even know these dudes. That's what I'm like.

678
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, who I you know what I mean, I'm

679
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: not I'm not gonna get into right back and forth because.

680
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: It's like they got too much time on it here

681
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: and I can't do that.

682
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: I don't do that. And it's like, you know, you

683
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 3: I've never seen these dudes anywhere outside I don't know.

684
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: And then they get online and then get on their

685
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: platforms and start talking crazy and it's just like I

686
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: don't even know how to do that, Like I can't

687
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: because I don't know you you know what I mean.

688
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 3: So I can't. I can't sit on here and spew

689
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: that type of crazy talk when I've never even I

690
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: don't even know how to do that.

691
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: It's almost like even with his situation with Rory, it's

692
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: almost like he was leaving you out of it too.

693
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: It's almost he was bringing you in it after a

694
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: certain part. But there was a moment where it's almost

695
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: like everybody was against Rory and they was trying to

696
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: kind of leave ma all out. But Mal was looking

697
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: for why fuck act.

698
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: With what his situation is.

699
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: But the Joe thing, you were trying to understand, why

700
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: is you what's happening? And then like you said, we

701
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: both on the same side creatively to try to say

702
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: you already get the big piece of chicken.

703
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, we partners. Man, You know you can't tell your

704
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: partner again partners. We don't work for nobody. We wearing employees.

705
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: We were business partners. We have a contract agreement, we

706
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: have a percentage based agreement.

707
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: We were partners.

708
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: So it's like you tell your partner don't come, don't

709
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: come to work, You at least got to consult with

710
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: the other partner first, you know what I'm saying, Like

711
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: if me and you and another home, you got to

712
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: show together and then you text him and say you

713
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: don't come into work.

714
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: Me and you supposed to have that talk before you.

715
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: You should be like, y I feel like he shouldn't

716
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: come in for a couple of weeks whatever it may be.

717
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: We need to have a talk first. You can't I

718
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: view you as a partner. That's why I think he

719
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: didn't view y'all as partner.

720
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: Of course he didn't. It's his name is the podcast.

721
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: When he changed the name, what was y'all thinking? Then

722
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: we knew what it was. That was deep, that was ego.

723
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. And you know what, people

724
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: got to remind the tapes and go back and look

725
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: at the film. It's ego. But even in the missed

726
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: that we weren't tripping because we had this contract in place,

727
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: and we're like, all right, it don't matter.

728
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: You can call it whatever you want.

729
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: Right this contract is in place, and whatever money comes in,

730
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: this is the percentage that I get.

731
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: This is the percentage that he gets.

732
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: So you can call it whatever you want. You can

733
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: dress it up however you want to dress it up.

734
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter to us. Whatever comes across that table.

735
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: This is my cut, this is his cut, that's your cut.

736
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying, And that's how we rolled

737
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: and move forward. But you know, when you start realizing

738
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 3: that everything is starting to look like a salary. It's like, oh, yeah,

739
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: I don't know salary.

740
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: Right, they keeping you at the same number.

741
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: And then okay, so I see what you saying, because

742
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: he's always saying that, yo, I paid them this number

743
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: even though the company didn't earn that number, but I

744
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: kept that number there because I pulled money from here, there,

745
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: and everywhere to keep that number. That y'all saying, now,

746
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: you slick put us on a salary. It's a salary, bro, Like,

747
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: come on, we're not doing that.

748
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: That's a good game salary, like I'm not and again,

749
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: a good game. He tried it, that's good game. But

750
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: it's like it's not gonna work with Like, I'm chill,

751
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: I'm cool, laid back, notionally, I'm not stupid.

752
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: Though I didn't peep that.

753
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch you. I'm very observing. I see everything.

754
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: You know.

755
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: We just sold sixteen hundred tickets and I'm getting the

756
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: same as when we sell eight hundred tickets.

757
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: That's a salary.

758
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Home, Yeah, it's definitely what it sounds salary.

759
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: And then and then when we again, there was so

760
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: many conversations of us trying to make it right because.

761
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: We knew what we had, we knew what we were building.

762
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 3: And you know, I remember one conversation we had and

763
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 3: you know, he looked at me and Rory and he's

764
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: outside talking and we got into it.

765
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: One day.

766
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, you know, after this contract is up,

767
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you all on the salary. And me

768
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: and Roy looked at each other, like, who you talking

769
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: to put on a salary? But that's what he always wanted,

770
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: which is what he has now. You know, you're now

771
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: now and they doing more work. I mean, I love parks, man,

772
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: you know, I mean I love parks, you know, And

773
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: it's just you know, have you watched the show, no

774
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 3: at all. No, have you seen any clips. Only when

775
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: they're talking about me, only when he has something to

776
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: say about it.

777
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: Right right, and they don't usually talking now you do

778
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: see it's kind of push back, like just show the numbers, listen, man,

779
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: it knows like.

780
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: And that's my thing, man, you know, and I don't

781
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to, you know, I don't want to

782
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: disrupt anything that got over there.

783
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: But you know, the.

784
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: People gonna see eventually, and then you know, it's just

785
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: you know, it's just fucked up man, because you know,

786
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: I know those guys feel like like they can't you know,

787
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: kick it with me. You know they are saw ice

788
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: them follow me on social media like that, Beau.

789
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: You know it's like, you know, I get it. Man,

790
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: listen he being lowyer to the big home man. You know,

791
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: I listen. I'm not I'm not mad at it.

792
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: Man, It's just you know, they know the real and

793
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: that's the thing that you know, you know, aside from

794
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: a podcast and you know now people watching you and

795
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: following in social media. I'm talking about let's, you know,

796
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: go back to them days in Jersey, go back to them.

797
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: You know, they know me and they know him, and

798
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: they know the things they've been through with him. None

799
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: of them never been through nothing with me. Fucked up ship.

800
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: So it's like right right right, like we ain't gotta

801
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: I ain't gotta do that, like you know, it's it

802
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: just is what it is. And like I said, you know,

803
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: I thank him for doing that. I thank him for

804
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: you know, fucking us over and and doing.

805
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: What make us go get our own Jersey. Man.

806
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: Oh man, it was beautiful, like you know, he he

807
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: it was you know, it was a hat trick.

808
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I respect it. You know.

809
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you did what you had to do,

810
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: and that was part of the story and part of

811
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: the journey. Like every nothing, nothing is an accident. You know,

812
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: everything has its has its meaning, everything has its purpose.

813
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: So you know, I look at that now and I'm like, oh, Ship,

814
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: If you don't do that.

815
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't have my own jersey. Yeah. Made me go

816
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: by the team. Yeah.

817
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 3: And like I said, I was happy setting the screen.

818
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: I knew I could get thirty if I want to

819
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: go get thirty. I knew I could go get there.

820
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: I could go get thirty. But if you if you hot,

821
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: I'm feeding you because I don't. It's no ego and

822
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: play with me. Sure we get the w in the

823
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 3: locker room. That's all I give a fuck about. I

824
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 3: don't care about all that other shit is ego.

825
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: Ship.

826
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: I always got attention from girls, I always got respect

827
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 3: from niggas and the streets home.

828
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 1: I don't.

829
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 3: So it's it's you know, I don't. It's like, yo, listen,

830
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: we building something with a team.

831
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: Let's be a team for sure.

832
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: When you rewind the tape, like you say, the Patreon

833
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: deal comes to mind. Y'all had just turned down the

834
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 2: Spotify deal and then all of a sudden, he shows

835
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: up with a Patreon deal that has some name on

836
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: it that I don't even hear him, not mentioned anymore,

837
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: but where he had took the podcast to Patreon. You

838
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: didn't clap bet that moment. There's a there's a video

839
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 2: going around when he you know, Rory, see Rory gave

840
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: into his his his feelings in that moment just to.

841
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: Keep Rory has a better poker face. Yeah, he was like,

842
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: now I'm happy for you, bro.

843
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: You know you was like yeah, because again it was

844
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: so much shit going on behind the scenes.

845
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: It was done then, Oh it was for me. For me,

846
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: it was done.

847
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: You know when he told Rory not to come in,

848
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: and you know that bothered me.

849
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 1: Because it's like you was clean on how he looked

850
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: at it.

851
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was like, yo, but he don't work

852
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: for you, like we partners in it. And then, like

853
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: I said, even if you have an issue with something

854
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: Rory said or did, you should talk to me first

855
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: about it and then let's let's like all sit down together,

856
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: you know. And then when we had a talk that

857
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 3: we had and you know, he said the things he said,

858
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: and then you know he told me, oh, it's none

859
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 3: of your it's none of your business, and it's none

860
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: of my big I paid the taxes on.

861
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: It, and at one moment I'm sitting behind the costs.

862
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 3: And the other moment it ain't none of my business.

863
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: So it's like rough to deal with.

864
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: And this is what I'm saying, a lot of the

865
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: listeners they lose sight of these things because you know,

866
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: he's good at spending and throwing things at you, and

867
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 3: you can't really keep up with everything he's saying.

868
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: My thing is just reminded tapes and listen. Right, let's

869
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: talk about their Patreon moment.

870
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 2: So you're saying you didn't kind of you understood that

871
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 2: there was a fifty two fake out.

872
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: Not only it wasn't that there was a fifty two

873
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: fake out. It was Okay, here's another deal with more

874
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: money coming into the show that we can and we

875
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: still don't have accounting.

876
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: That's what that was.

877
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 3: So when he says he showed us the accounting, it's like, yeah,

878
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: but you showed us an Excel spreadsheet that your accounting

879
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: didn't send, your manager sent, because had your accountant sent

880
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: that your account would have lost his accountant license because

881
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: there was one hundred and forty some thousand dollars quote

882
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: unquote mistake. I said, who We didn't even know who

883
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: that company was, Like what company is that we paid

884
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: this money out to? And his responsible or that was

885
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: a mistake. So we said, okay, one hundred and forty

886
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: thousand dollars steak. I don't know no account that makes

887
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: a mistake that big, but okay, corrected and sent back

888
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: to the correct one. We never got another one after that.

889
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: He try to add, like this, taxes, Come.

890
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 3: On, man, show the taxes. See because like I said,

891
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: you could you could play games, you could cook the

892
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 3: books easy. You can't cook the book expenses. You can't

893
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: do that with taxes. So you know, you know again,

894
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: like I said, we're not tripping because and.

895
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: This is about the information.

896
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: The reason why, the reason why we're speaking about it

897
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: is because in this space, right, they have these percentage

898
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: based deals. They have these deals in place where you

899
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: can go get a percentage base. Hey, y'all don't own this,

900
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: but every million that comes in we busted down seven

901
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, right, And so we have

902
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: to learn about how y'all navigated through this, what the

903
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: mistakes was, what with the ends and outs are, and

904
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: how y'all took that information to do what it is

905
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: y'all doing now, because not only did y'all leave this

906
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: situation with youll brands in yall hand y'all win and

907
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: evolved those into the new Rory and Mom's show and

908
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: took that on the road and brought that into skits

909
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: and took that into getting to deal with serious and

910
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: and that's what I'm saying. I just want the fans

911
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 2: to know that this is never about sitting around going

912
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: into the depths of this to child.

913
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: I just want people to be very clear and and

914
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: and business right, you know. And I want my mistakes

915
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: and my situations to be somebody's learning curve and somebody's

916
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 3: you know, elevation Like okay, I can't do that. And

917
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: if you know, you and your your team or you

918
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: got a crew and y'all doing business together, like you know,

919
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 3: just just make sure everything is open on the table

920
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: and everybody has access to the to the numbers and

921
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: the accounting you know, where they can go in and check.

922
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 3: Cause we that's what we kept fighting for and let's

923
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 3: just get a quick book and let's we all have

924
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 3: access to it. We can go in and see it

925
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: whenever we want. These are all things that we brought

926
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: to the table, and you know, everything was frowned upon.

927
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: Everything was like, nah, you know, it's just like but

928
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 3: we're partners, so why can't we just have a quick

929
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: book to where we can see the numbers.

930
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: That's how it should be. That's how it should be.

931
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Like with me and Rory, we bro we have zero

932
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: money issues. Like I'm talking about zero, Like it's crazy

933
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: because you know, when you're in a room with somebody

934
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: and you in business with somebody, they'll sometimes make it

935
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: seem like some things are so impossible and it's like

936
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: stop them.

937
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: We got to talk about these companies because they do that.

938
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: It's not your listen when people start moving like that,

939
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: that's a play doing that, and that's that.

940
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: Be very clear about that.

941
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: Like it's because, like I said, Rory myself now being

942
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 3: in business with each other and having our own media company.

943
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Like yeah, we'll fly y'all, we'll pay for this, we'll

944
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: do that.

945
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 3: It's nothing, Bro, it's the most it's just so simple.

946
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: And we we throw bullshit into the game and we

947
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: create issues where there are no issues. And it's amazing

948
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: to me the amount of things that we'll create and

949
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: fuck up a beautiful thing. And it's like why, And

950
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: then when you see the why, you like, was it

951
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: worth it?

952
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Like was that?

953
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: Like I think back to where we were headed, and

954
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: he would have had if that wouldn't have happened, he

955
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: would have had the one hundred men bro listen, man, that's.

956
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: If he would have been able to not only keep

957
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: that and then do what he did with the girls.

958
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: And because that's another thing, people that hurt him so bad.

959
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: But what happened to the network? I'm just asking you

960
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: what happened that hurt him so bad?

961
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: Talk to talk to the people, Talk to the talk

962
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: to the ladies. Talk to the ladies, asking him what happened,

963
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 3: Ask him what type of contracts he put on the

964
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: table for them, because I don't want people to think that,

965
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: you know, this is the thing where I'm trying to

966
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: keep this going. Like I said, I'm kicking with you

967
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 3: to give information about all other creators that's coming up, right,

968
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: like you know, get your business right now, keep it together.

969
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 2: And know what it looked like you know what I

970
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: sounded like when you're getting fucked. What know, when you

971
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: win a percentage based contract but can't get to count,

972
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: that might be something.

973
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: It's something there, it's a reason why you're not getting

974
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: out of.

975
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: You, you know what I'm saying. So that's what this is about.

976
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: But but you know, I think it's just man, this

977
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: shit is for me is weird. I never hear y'all

978
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: speak about why y'all didn't start another podcast. Now, before

979
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: we go there, let's talk about the network. Okay, the

980
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: network situation. If that I think that y'all even hurts

981
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: so bad as far as like image wise and and

982
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: and uh far as trust and equity that people had

983
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: in him and his whole just situation. You know, because

984
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: he was talked, that created talking. He was rilling people up.

985
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: People thought y'all were being quiet because y'all agreed. People

986
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: didn't know y'all was being quiet because we asking for

987
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: the things that you talking about from you right right.

988
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: People didn't know that. And so people took y'all being

989
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: quiet as they letting him get the creative talk off

990
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: because he's top creator. But that wasn't what it was.

991
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: But the fans received it that way when he went

992
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: it at Charlemagne, y'all cleared out twenty thirty minutes and

993
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: you don't own that, and I own this and you

994
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: worked for I harden.

995
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: But see that back to the Charlamagne thing, and that's

996
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: why I had an issue. And this again love Charlemagne.

997
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 3: I think he's amazing in our culture, some amazing things.

998
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: But the reason I had an issue with Charlemagne was

999
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 3: because when Old Boy went up there to promote the

1000
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: show that he had on Revolt at the time, they

1001
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 3: kept talking about the podcast deal, like they just wanted

1002
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 3: to know how much the deal was just that and

1003
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,479
Speaker 3: the third and Charlemagne said, oh, yeah, well I think

1004
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: that they should have only been getting this amount. He

1005
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 3: said that on the show.

1006
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: They should only be getting this amount.

1007
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: Ye're like, he spoke on how much more I should

1008
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 3: be receiving. But add that to the fact that now

1009
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: we never got the accounting. So you see how words

1010
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 3: become powerful, especially when it becomes comes from figures in

1011
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: the culture that.

1012
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: Have a lot. Okay, okay, I get it. So it's like,

1013
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: while you.

1014
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: Will that you were fighting to get your real worth.

1015
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: It's like, Homie, I'm and you justifying that he chumping me.

1016
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: I see.

1017
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: You're giving validation to somebody trying to steal. And now

1018
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: you're putting what you think I should you putting what

1019
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 3: you think my price is on me like we're from

1020
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: the streets. You can't tell me what I No matter

1021
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 3: how much I buy my work from you, it don't

1022
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 3: what I sell it for it you ain't got nothing

1023
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: to do with you as long as so. Now how

1024
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 3: you telling somebody what you think they should be given

1025
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: what my cut is? And then now fast forward, I

1026
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: can't even get accounting, so.

1027
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm fighting for my real value. Now, then you tell.

1028
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: A voice in the cold.

1029
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: Now I don't left voice. You got a company you

1030
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: cutting checks? So they said, well another bout say, y'all

1031
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: owner should be getting this much. So I'm justified in

1032
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: what I'm doing.

1033
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna go deeper than that. I don't know

1034
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 3: what you're saying behind closed doors. If my name come

1035
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: up in those rooms now.

1036
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: Right, I don't know if my name they didn't know

1037
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: you were fighting for they man.

1038
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm not mad at Charlamagne. But I

1039
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: felt some type of way about that because it was

1040
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: like Nigga I'm the new dude on the block.

1041
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm humble. I don't you know what

1042
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't. Okay, fine, but.

1043
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: For you to say that, first of all, you don't

1044
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 3: never speak on what you think another man should be making.

1045
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: Number one, let the girls do that, right.

1046
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: Number two, it's like, I don't know if my name

1047
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 3: come up behind those doors in them buildings now in

1048
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: our heart and somebody say, yo, the mall dude from

1049
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,479
Speaker 3: the from the podcast, Yo, what you think? I don't

1050
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 3: know what you're saying now.

1051
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: Yo.

1052
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: We think we want to give him a show. We

1053
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 3: think we think about giving them like four million. I

1054
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: don't give them a hundred.

1055
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 2: Thousand, right, Yeah, that'll make you think that.

1056
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: If you'll say that on Mike on the Breakfast, that'll

1057
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: make you.

1058
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: You'll say that behind closed doors for.

1059
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 3: Sure, that'll make you. So that's why I felt the

1060
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: way towards him. But you know that ship is over it, man,

1061
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1062
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlemagne does like I said, Man, I know he's

1063
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: disappointed in Joe.

1064
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: Even when we talk about.

1065
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: The next was gonna happen.

1066
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: He said it when he was on.

1067
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: He knew y'all was gonna happen. But he didn't know

1068
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: he was gonna turn on him. See, you gotta remember,

1069
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: Joe went and got Charlemagne too.

1070
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: He proceeds. I know how Joe got his audience.

1071
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: Some of that come from asks, some of that come

1072
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: from y'all, some of that come from Charlemagne. They all

1073
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 2: gave him access to the audience that he won't what

1074
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: it looks like giving anyone else access to. So when

1075
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: he went and got Charlemagne, you gotta remember to pull

1076
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 2: up happened? Who was there? You got Casanova. I don't

1077
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: hear brus say free Casanova. Respectfully, he went and got

1078
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: Casanova because he was into it with Takashi. You gotta

1079
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: rewind what's happening right when he got That's an over

1080
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: may though. These are people who were on the first

1081
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: little pull up thing. Charlemagne was the biggest name right

1082
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 2: that was giving you. He was stamping you, like when

1083
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: you would do your end of the year, Charlemagne to

1084
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 2: come do it.

1085
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 1: This was helping your brand, bro, This was.

1086
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: Helping you absolutely. And I think that Charlemagne didn't think that. Damn,

1087
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: he didn't start shooting at me too. He knew that

1088
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: he'll keep fucking with marble. Rory, you your head Gray.

1089
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: It's like he felt that everybody felt that you. He

1090
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 2: looked at you in a different light. He felt he

1091
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: felt different about.

1092
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 3: It because our relationship was different, you know what I mean,

1093
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 3: Like it was a it was a lot of years there,

1094
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 3: and you know, he could say what do you want

1095
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: about it now? And you know certain things I'm hearing

1096
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: him say now, I know that he's that's just his

1097
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: way of like being all the way trying to just

1098
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: throw anything at the fire now. And it's like, bro,

1099
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 3: none of that is gonna stick. Cut it out, you

1100
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like you can you can feel

1101
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: however you feel, because you know, I decided not to

1102
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: let you just shit on Rory, and I called you

1103
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: out on your bullshit and you was wrong and we

1104
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: know you were stealing and and you're mad because I

1105
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: call you every time your name is brought up in

1106
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: my presence.

1107
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: Yes, he's a thief. You still won't say his name, man,

1108
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: That that says a lot.

1109
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: I will never say his name.

1110
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: That says a lot. Nah. But that's I'm just you.

1111
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 3: You hurt man. No, it's not that I'm hurt. I'm

1112
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 3: not how you won't say his name then, because I

1113
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: don't even want. I don't because it's not about it's

1114
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: about the situation. It's not about him. It's about the

1115
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: situation of what happened in the show and the company

1116
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 3: and everything that we had.

1117
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: But it's not about him.

1118
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: I don't have. It's no beef, it's none of That's.

1119
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Disappointment. That was your guy. Thought you

1120
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: had that, Oh yeah, for sure, locked up with that nigga.

1121
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: So it was love then look what happened.

1122
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. But it was only love

1123
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: on one side. It was love for me anytime anytime

1124
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: anybody you know has a relationship with me, I have

1125
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: a relationship with somebody like you know, you see you

1126
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: look around me. I got a lot of dudes that

1127
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 3: I've known since I was nine, ten eleven years old

1128
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: still around me to this day because I'm the same

1129
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 3: person I've been my entire life, Like I've always shown love,

1130
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 3: always shown respect, you know what I'm saying, Always kept

1131
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: in one hundred with niggas. Like if you see niggas

1132
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 3: that and I'm no longer fuck with them, and you

1133
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 3: you find out what happened it's not me, Homie. I

1134
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 3: don't know what you're battling internally. Like I said with Homie,

1135
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 3: I know it's an ego thing. He always wanted to

1136
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: be that guy. And that's why I respectfully just moved

1137
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 3: out the way and let him have it. I'm not

1138
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 3: going to believe.

1139
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: If he always wanted to be that guy, for sure,

1140
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 2: most rappers want to be that guy for sure.

1141
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 3: And that's that's why I said it. And that's that's fine.

1142
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get in the way of what you

1143
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: see for yourself. If you feel like I'm in the

1144
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: way of that, I'll.

1145
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: Step out the way, Homie. I'll let you have it.

1146
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna argue with you. I'm not gonna battle you.

1147
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go to court and try to sue

1148
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 3: you and under and if you and this is another thing,

1149
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: rewind the tape he set out his mouth.

1150
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: If we try to start the show, y'all, yeah, I

1151
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: remember that.

1152
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So you gotta these are

1153
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 3: the things that you know. I'm just like, you know,

1154
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: the listeners and the supporters are very They lose sight

1155
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 3: of a lot of things. But it's like just rewind

1156
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 3: the tapes.

1157
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: I can imagine y'all being disappointed. If you're asking for accounting,

1158
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: then cashp Logo pops up, then the network pops up,

1159
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 2: then Spotify.

1160
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: Thing you know is already happened.

1161
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 3: But in his mind, they only wanted to do a

1162
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 3: deal with him.

1163
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: Well, I'm a partner.

1164
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: He didn't feel like. He didn't feel like it was

1165
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: because of the podcast.

1166
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: It's the same fight he was saving a complex. It's

1167
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: the same fight he was having with Shady and.

1168
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: The slaughter House group. He asked, He asked pauling them

1169
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 3: for accounting.

1170
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: So I don't understand it. I know you though you're not.

1171
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: You're not gonna unders then, because it's gonna the goal

1172
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: post is gonna move when it has to do with

1173
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: him and and him having it having to show his character.

1174
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: Did the network start why y'all were y'all were still

1175
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 2: there right, Yes, yeah, y'all carried the network?

1176
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: The network was, y'all wasn't no show another show was?

1177
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: The network is literally just his YouTube channel. No, I'm

1178
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: being serious, bro, The network is literally because again a

1179
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 3: lot of people didn't know.

1180
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: We didn't So what about the funding of the other shows?

1181
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: When he paid, you know, shout out caring he paid Karen,

1182
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: when he paid Mandy?

1183
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: Did he paid it? Where you? Where did you think

1184
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: that money came from? And I know, but did he

1185
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: pay him? I don't know. You can stand okay, so,

1186
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: but but you're saying that the podcast was the network.

1187
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: It was the anchor.

1188
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: If it's no, if there's no podcast, there's no none

1189
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: of the other ship.

1190
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: No, for sure, it was the anchor. We definitely came to.

1191
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 3: So this is what I'm trying to say, is you

1192
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: know the networking, it's just a YouTube channel, homie that

1193
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 3: was built off of the podcast. But in his mind,

1194
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 3: because he had that YouTube channel, since he had his

1195
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 3: videos up there, that's why he didn't want to pay

1196
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: us on the YouTube.

1197
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: That's fun. We can go back. We can go back

1198
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: and look on YouTube.

1199
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: You can literally see what videos bringing in, what money monetizing.

1200
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what makes them great.

1201
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, tell you when subscribe with Spiked,

1202
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: it tells you all of that.

1203
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: I feel like, this is your channel. You started this

1204
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 3: back in the early two thousands.

1205
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: Ain't keep that over there because we know what that

1206
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: was bringing.

1207
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 3: Little enough, Let's just be honest.

1208
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: Starving.

1209
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 3: Right, But once you start putting this podcast on there, we're.

1210
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: Looking at a little something coming in there. Just what

1211
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: was the conversation about not being paid from video? So

1212
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 2: and my understanding is correctly, he only monetized. He only

1213
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: paid you guys to monetize the audio.

1214
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: He did not pay out for the video. You didn't

1215
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: get nothing from YouTube. I don't know a deal like that.

1216
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: I've never heard of.

1217
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: Of course you don't.

1218
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: You don't get nothing from the video and your talent

1219
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: on camera, you're recording me but not getting me nothing

1220
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: from video. It's crazy, Joe, I gotta talk to you,

1221
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 2: but that's crazy.

1222
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: All of the things that we humbly said, Okay.

1223
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: When y'all asked for video money or hey, what's up

1224
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: with what? What was the conversations then.

1225
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 3: His manager said, no, it's not happening. He's not paying

1226
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 3: here for that. He said, okay, no problem, humbly, ain't

1227
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 3: no problem. This is what I'm saying you how long you.

1228
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: He didn't even say that money i'm giving you no

1229
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 2: counts as the video.

1230
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, you're not getting paid from video

1231
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: at all.

1232
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: That's wold, that's.

1233
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: He's and you're monetizing it in my face. You got

1234
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: six cameras in my face. It is wow, and my

1235
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: face is still up there, and y'all, and you know,

1236
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: Fred Taylor, I believe got a law, a settlement of

1237
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: some sorts. I think he was talking about like him

1238
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 2: and b did some business to like, Yo, I need

1239
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: some of that for sure, I'm gonna take that down. Yeah,

1240
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. He said, Well, I take

1241
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: that back. He said he didn't want to take it

1242
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: down and be probably be gonna.

1243
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: Just cut the chick.

1244
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 3: But that's you know, their relationship is probably different, and

1245
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: it's probably not too much ego between those two gentlemen

1246
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 3: or it's not, you know, they probably it's just they're

1247
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 3: not dealing with the type of person I would be

1248
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: dealing with if I tried to do that. So you

1249
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: know what again, but the important.

1250
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: Thing was it was all for the culture and us.

1251
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: Building what we were building, and Rory and myself didn't

1252
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 3: want to interrupt that.

1253
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: Man, So we dealt with a lot man like that's heavy. Yeah,

1254
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: but this is what I'm saying.

1255
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: So we got six cameras in my face, monetizing twice

1256
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: a week on YouTube and telling me, you're not paying

1257
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: me as wild.

1258
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: But we did it because we saw the value and

1259
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: we didn't want to disrupt it because we like then

1260
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: we see that.

1261
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: And he would always say, you gotta stop. Mm hmm.

1262
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: I'll ask you what I asked, Fred, when y'all left

1263
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: the show? Were you trying to tank the show?

1264
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: No?

1265
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: See, when we left, when we left, right, I had Uh.

1266
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 3: It was because he had told Rory not to come in,

1267
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: and you know, I didn't like that, and then I

1268
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 3: showed up at the studio and you know, we had

1269
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: to talk. And then when he told me it was

1270
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: none of my business. To me, it was over with

1271
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 3: at that point because I can't unhear you say that,

1272
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: you know, And I can never sit down in the

1273
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: room with you and act like, excuse me, act like

1274
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 3: you didn't say that. So when I left at that point,

1275
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 3: I told Rory, I said, yeah, it's over. You know,

1276
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 3: he said what he said, and I can't. I can't

1277
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 3: sit down in the room with that dude after that,

1278
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 3: not not not him saying that, and then not knowing

1279
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: everything that we agree not to get paid from and everything,

1280
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: knowing everything we built. It's just like, all right, enough

1281
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 3: is enough? Like you just it's like you not gonna

1282
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 3: We took a small percentage to begin with, a percentage

1283
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: that nobody would have agreed to, and we're not getting

1284
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: paid on YouTube. And then now you stand in my

1285
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 3: face and tell me this is none of my business

1286
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: when I'm paying the taxes on the money that's coming in.

1287
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: So for me, it was done there. Rory begged me

1288
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: to have a meeting once he got back, so we

1289
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: all went to his house and sat down and talked,

1290
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: and he agreed. He said, yeah, we're gonna, you know,

1291
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: gonna get the account and right, get the account and

1292
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 3: sent to your people.

1293
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: Da da da da da.

1294
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 3: Let's all go to our corners and we're gonna get

1295
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 3: everything right and then we'll come back and you know,

1296
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 3: we'll we'll we'll, we'll reconvene and and move forward. Like

1297
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: we just take a pause. Everybody go to their corner,

1298
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: all right. Cool. Next thing I know, three days later,

1299
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: he got these two new dudes recording episode. And I'm like,

1300
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: we just had a talk at your crib and you

1301
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: said we're gonna take some a week off and get

1302
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 3: all the paperwork right and then we'll reconvene. Now all

1303
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you got two new dudes sitting in there.

1304
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, cool man. That was a slap

1305
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: in the face at that point. I mean, I was

1306
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: done anyway, so it didn't matter, only because Rory you know,

1307
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: kept talking to me and kept begging me to, you know,

1308
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 3: try to make it right.

1309
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:00,439
Speaker 1: Cool.

1310
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: And then when we were supposed to get we end

1311
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 3: up going back and we did two episodes. And in

1312
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: that time of that two episodes, we only did that

1313
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 3: because we were being told that the accounting was being

1314
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 3: done and was on the way, and that Friday was

1315
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: supposed to be when the accounting was going to be sent.

1316
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 3: And then when that Friday came, his manager reached out

1317
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 3: and was like, yeah, he said that that is the

1318
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 3: accounting and that he's not sending nothing else. It's literally

1319
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 3: what he said. He said that the accounting that the

1320
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty thousand dollars mistake was on was

1321
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: the accounting and he's not sending that even straight.

1322
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's wow. So so niggas is crazy. So

1323
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: but this is what I'm saying.

1324
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 3: But then but then you got yourrrrrr, your manager in

1325
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 3: the room when we don't show up and you yelling

1326
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: at Rory's fired and all this. I hear his manager

1327
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: told me, I told you you was paying the more

1328
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 3: than they was more than you.

1329
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: Supposed to be.

1330
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, who because we went and got a motherfucking a

1331
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: multimillion dollar deal. Serious ex So who was he overpaying?

1332
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: Right?

1333
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: Because he said that he was being more generous than

1334
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 2: he should have been.

1335
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: And all of that. I remember that. Yeah, how does

1336
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: he know? And he not a partner and you don't

1337
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: know or is he a partner too? The manager?

1338
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he know what he he know what he's taking.

1339
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 3: He know he know the money that's being stolen.

1340
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: He knows that. Bring the paperwork.

1341
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 3: We don't have to do none of this again.

1342
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 1: Right right? Right? Should account? I would shoulder. I would

1343
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: show he can't. Yeah, he can't.

1344
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: I will, I would show it he can't.

1345
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: That's why I never heard you speak about why y'all

1346
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: didn't start a podcast, why y'all were there or spin

1347
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: off for speak to some of those narratives that people say, Yo,

1348
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: they didn't create the value outside of sitting on camera

1349
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 2: with him.

1350
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: We didn't.

1351
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: Because I'm looking at it.

1352
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when y'all I'm talking about why y'all were there,

1353
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 2: but in my opinion, I would say with damn they

1354
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: they were fighting for the money from what they were doing.

1355
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't see how you can create something while you're

1356
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: still saying, hold up, I ain't properly paid for.

1357
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1358
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 3: See that's the thing again, people don't. I don't know

1359
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 3: how clear we you know, we talked about this a

1360
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 3: few times, right just for like the creators. If you

1361
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 3: have a you're starting to show with your homies in

1362
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: a basement, you know it ain't no no money involved,

1363
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 3: no nothing, and y'all building something, and y'all look up

1364
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 3: one day and y'all got a fucking audience and people

1365
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 3: tuning in, and you know now, you know, people are

1366
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: starting to reach out and things like that.

1367
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: You see it now.

1368
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 3: Now it's becoming a business, and y'all have a contract

1369
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: with each other and say, okay, this is the percentage

1370
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 3: that we're gonna split. This is how we're gonna bust

1371
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 3: it whatever bag comes. This is how we busting it down.

1372
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: Right now, when the.

1373
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 3: Bag comes and you don't see the numbers that's coming in,

1374
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: and you don't see what's being paid in and paid out,

1375
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 3: you don't know what if you get in your like

1376
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: it's like home hold on. Before any of this became

1377
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 3: a thing, we had this contract. But again you're talking

1378
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 3: to somebody that has said that they don't honor contract.

1379
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 2: Right, and then I've seen when you said it back

1380
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: to him, and then he didn't receive that the same way.

1381
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: Of course he can't.

1382
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: Because anything if you tell somebody like listen, this is

1383
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: something that you said, and then now you're moving like

1384
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: this is something you said and they know that, the

1385
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: people gonn look at you like, oh, that's fucked up.

1386
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 3: Of course you're gonna try to act like you never

1387
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 3: said that. It's like, bro, I'm not I would never

1388
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: sit him live about anybody. You're on camera saying that before.

1389
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 3: Plenty of times you've done business like that with people,

1390
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 3: plenty of times, Like it's not something I'm just saying

1391
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 3: where I fucked up at And it's again the type

1392
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: of man and my mother raised treat people the way

1393
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 3: you want to be treated. So because I would never

1394
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 3: do that to him, benefit that to me.

1395
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: You stand what I'm saying.

1396
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a lesson learned, and you know,

1397
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: to other creatives out there, you know, just be careful man,

1398
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 3: because you.

1399
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: Know, no know what it sounds like, you know know

1400
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: what it looked like, you know what it feels like.

1401
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1402
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 3: And the more important, something don't feel right.

1403
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: It's something not right right.

1404
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: And when I when I when I look at it

1405
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: and think about y'all, sometimes I say to myself, that

1406
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: was one of the best shows ever to be.

1407
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: Created, man, And it was that podcast was.

1408
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: So chemistry, the depth of it, the time y'all put

1409
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 2: in it, Man to just evolve it amazing.

1410
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 3: It was amazing.

1411
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: Bro.

1412
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 3: We have some great, great, great times man, last great ship.

1413
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 3: But you know, unfortunately, like we've seen time and Tom

1414
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: always Bro, you know that money come into play.

1415
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: Man and break the pool balls.

1416
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: Man, it just it's you know, but that's it's a

1417
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 3: deeper thing with us when it comes to money and

1418
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 3: things like that. It's just something that we can't get past.

1419
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 3: Like we just always feel like we got to do

1420
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: each other dirty or do each other wrong when when

1421
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 3: when money come in, because you know, for some of

1422
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: us we've never had. But but to me it's the opposite,

1423
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 3: Like I I can't do you dirty behind something I

1424
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: never had, because it's like I don't.

1425
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: I never had it.

1426
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm not missing that shit.

1427
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 1: I never had it, right.

1428
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: So when you do me dirty for some shit that

1429
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 3: you never had, it's weird, super weird.

1430
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: Say, nigga, we.

1431
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 3: Never even had that type of money, Like, why would

1432
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 3: you do your man dirty for that type of money

1433
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: when you never had it? So it's like, nigga, what

1434
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: does it matter? You was able to survive thisislan without

1435
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 3: that type of money, understand, so to do.

1436
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: It's just weird. Man.

1437
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: And then, like I said, I've seen how things look

1438
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 3: when now on this side, when you know business is.

1439
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: Done, you're more happy now.

1440
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's you know what me and Rory

1441
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 3: are doing, man, is again we were moving at our

1442
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 3: own pace, were creating at our own pace, were doing

1443
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 3: business at our own pace.

1444
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: Man, it's beautiful, man.

1445
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 3: And you know, traveling the world doing these shows and

1446
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 3: getting out here touching the people and having these one

1447
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: on one conversations with people that tune in and support

1448
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 3: weekly it's humbling, man. You know, it's humbling to go

1449
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 3: to the UK and people that that's a big move. Yeah, man,

1450
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you know how long.

1451
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: Y'all been on y'all loan not even that long.

1452
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 3: To be a septemberated year.

1453
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: What yeah, one year, one year and you in London

1454
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: And that's fucking dope, man.

1455
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean, man, if these other podcast niggas don't salute that,

1456
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: I salute that.

1457
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 3: But that's why I'm sitting here with you for sure.

1458
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of niggas don't fuck with me, man,

1459
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 3: I think because they you know, people don't fuck with

1460
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 3: you when they see everything that they're not.

1461
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: In you, right, and they intimidated me.

1462
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: It's like, you know when they hear me talk and say, oh,

1463
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: you know these niggas suckers that they know I'm talking

1464
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 3: to them, but I don't know that because I don't

1465
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: know how exactly. So you know a lot of niggas

1466
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: don't you know, they don't they don't speak to me,

1467
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 3: and they don't you know what they talk crazy about

1468
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 3: me behind clubs. And it's like, man if y'all niggas

1469
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 3: only knew, Man, I show love sure you know what

1470
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, I ain't got it, I ain't gotta

1471
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not gonna get with over though podcast

1472
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: money ship. I don't care about that man. So you

1473
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: know I'm just me man, And and like I said,

1474
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 3: what me and Rory are doing is beautiful.

1475
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: Uh.

1476
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 3: You know, we're having a lot of fun with this ship, man.

1477
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 3: And I promise we got so much ship that we're

1478
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 3: putting together, man, and that we were gready to jump into. Man.

1479
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 3: And it's it's gonna be you know. We the people

1480
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: see it though, They see what we're carving out, and

1481
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: they see the lane we were going into for sure.

1482
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,440
Speaker 3: And you know, we we have the we have the

1483
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 3: right people supporting us. We got the right people behind us.

1484
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 3: You know, shout out to U t A, shout out

1485
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 3: to Rich Paul Agent, Orn bigs Benner hip Hop.

1486
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 2: You know, we got the right We got the right

1487
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 2: people behind them. Sure, how strong is their brotherhood between

1488
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: you and mam? Did that make y'all strong? I'm sorry

1489
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: you and Rory? How strong is that brotherhood between you

1490
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: and Rory? Did that make y'all strong?

1491
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: Going through that? Oh? Yeah absolutely? Man.

1492
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 3: You know it's like I said, Rory and not myself. Now,

1493
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 3: we just sometimes we don't even have to talk. We'll

1494
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 3: look at each other. We just know what it is

1495
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 3: on top. Yeah, like, oh man, here we go with

1496
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 3: this shit. But more importantly, we just we just know

1497
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 3: what we ain't going for, you know, no holes, just

1498
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 3: like we not even entertaining that.

1499
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: You know, when I look back at it too, I

1500
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: want the young creators to pay attention to this is

1501
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 2: a very important situation. You guys operated in a certain way,

1502
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 2: holding on to information that you didn't have account that

1503
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 2: money was coming in at some point of time, and

1504
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: even if it had stopped coming in, there's logos popping up,

1505
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: there's Patreon, but there's certain things happening, and we're still

1506
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 2: waiting on accounting from a couple of years ago.

1507
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: And so that led to frustration.

1508
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: But you guys operated with that information as best as

1509
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: you know how. And everybody talks about y'all and how

1510
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 2: y'all acting on camera and maybe our wordiness enthused as

1511
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: they thought you should have been, or involved as they

1512
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: thought you should have been, But nobody ever talks about

1513
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: how Joe responded to when y'all had the conversation with

1514
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 2: Parks about something ain't going right. I think Parks when

1515
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 2: it said something which Joe responded in a way that.

1516
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: Was oh, that's when he told Rory, you have to

1517
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: come in. This is a problem. Now.

1518
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: As the boss, how you handle that information is very important, right,

1519
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 2: you don't come emotional like that as the boss.

1520
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 3: But the emotion was there because see what it ultimately was.

1521
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 3: We were in the studio and you know, Rory and

1522
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 3: myself were like thereafter Homie had left and the staff

1523
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 3: started talking to us because they weren't comfortable talking to

1524
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 3: him because whenever they talked to him about things that's

1525
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 3: bothering up or you know, money or being paid or

1526
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 3: things like that, it's always meant with anger and yelling and.

1527
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: Things like that.

1528
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 3: With us, they know the energy is different, so they

1529
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 3: decided to start having a conversation with us and and

1530
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 3: and and voicing some of their discrepancies. So we was like, oh,

1531
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 3: we're like, oh shit, we didn't even know that that

1532
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 3: was happening, Like all right, Will.

1533
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: And then you know.

1534
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 3: Parks being who you know, he's friends with Homies manager,

1535
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 3: and you know, he decided to after that meeting to

1536
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 3: call him and tell him, hey, some of the guys

1537
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 3: are not happy. And I guess Homie felt like that

1538
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 3: was Rory's dealing but it wasn't right. So when he

1539
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 3: told Rory not to come in, it was based off

1540
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 3: because he felt like Rory had started a meeting, and

1541
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: he didn't. We was just there and we left the

1542
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 3: studio late and the guys decided to kick it with

1543
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 3: us about the situation.

1544
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: They felt a way about it.

1545
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 3: It's not our fault that they're comfortable talking to us

1546
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 3: about these things.

1547
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: Right, and he and see people never said, Yo, Joe,

1548
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,440
Speaker 2: you ow overreacted to getting information that your people are unhappy.

1549
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 2: As the boss, nigga, what you think I'm supposed to

1550
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 2: do with my family?

1551
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: Come tell me they unhappy?

1552
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 3: But you know why, because he felt like he wasn't

1553
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 3: in the room so he couldn't spend narratives and dance

1554
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 3: when people start saying what they're unhappy about. He felt like, no,

1555
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: I need to be in there, because he.

1556
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 1: Said, he felt it was cowardly.

1557
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: He don't understand it, don't no matter what you your

1558
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: family unhappy. So at this point, as the boss, as

1559
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: the father, as the head that you say you is,

1560
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: you're supposed to take that situation and comb through it

1561
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 2: and not come back and say.

1562
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: You only only that's nervous energy. Somebody start acting like that,

1563
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: and you know, found the gold.

1564
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 2: Nig I thought I stayed that's.

1565
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: What That's all. It's nervous energy.

1566
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 2: It's like, oh shit, and that start confirming to you, like, oh,

1567
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: I'm from where I know what this means and you

1568
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 2: won't show me. Of course, man, I'm putting two intwo thegether.

1569
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 3: So not only do not only are we not we

1570
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 3: know we getting fucked, but now even the.

1571
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: Staff I feel like they getting fucked.

1572
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we know what this is. And and that's

1573
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 3: why for me, it was whack for Parks to take

1574
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: that stance, because Parks knows and I've said that on

1575
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 3: two Parks he's he's had and and and that bothered

1576
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 3: me because when when we had our meeting outside at

1577
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: Park's crib, he pulled Parks outside and he asks Parks,

1578
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: he said, yo, do me and you have any money

1579
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 3: issues or business issues? And Parks said no, without putting

1580
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: Park's business out there, that's a lie of known Parks.

1581
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 3: Parks has engineered and recorded records that he hasn't been

1582
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 3: paid for ever, and he's voiced that he's he's recording

1583
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 3: multiple shows and he's getting paid a saundar.

1584
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: So you say he's.

1585
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 3: Into deep and I understand it, and I'm not mad.

1586
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: We don't he but do you think he got the

1587
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: talent that you and Road ricat.

1588
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: Though as far as personality, yeah, I don't know.

1589
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's do you think I'll rephrase

1590
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 1: the question.

1591
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: Because he's played off camera so long, does he have

1592
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: the ability to pivot in the way that y'all did

1593
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 2: because y'all faces were so recognizable by.

1594
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: Being on camera for five years. I have a hun

1595
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 1: it was.

1596
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: I think that Parks is. I think that he's super talented.

1597
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 3: He's super he's super smart when it comes to music.

1598
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 3: He's like a super nerd, right, And I say that respectfully.

1599
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 3: You know, he he's a hip hop head, very talented.

1600
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't know if he wants

1601
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 3: to be a personality. I think that his passion more

1602
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 3: so is in the music mixing, uh, you know, playing,

1603
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 3: you know, I think that's where his passion lies. I

1604
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 3: don't know if his passion is I think that the

1605
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 3: podcast is just fell into his lap, right, But I

1606
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 3: don't think that he, uh, he wants to be a

1607
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 3: personality quote unquote, I don't think that's what he wants.

1608
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 3: I think that he would rather be creating music and

1609
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: mixing and recording music at a high level for for

1610
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 3: some some really really high art high level artists, and

1611
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 3: he'll be comfortable, Oh because he's a that's his that's

1612
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 3: his past. Yeah, Parks, and that's that speaks to why

1613
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 3: he was comfortable off camera. Yeah, but and that and

1614
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 3: you know, and that he should play into that and

1615
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 3: he has he did play into which is why that

1616
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 3: it was the blend we had was perfect because it

1617
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 3: was literally real relationship like so and then Parks, like

1618
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 3: I said, being uh, the the just the the the

1619
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 3: ear that he has and for the sound and how

1620
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 3: how the show should sound and things like that and

1621
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 3: just mixing it and you know, audio wise, the show

1622
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 3: sounded amazing, you know what I mean. So I think

1623
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: that that's what his strength is. I just think again

1624
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 3: he's just he's a little into deep personally and business

1625
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 3: wise right now with everything that he can't really voice

1626
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 3: his his frustrations and and things like that. But he's

1627
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 3: he's married. Now.

1628
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:08,879
Speaker 1: Congrats.

1629
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 3: I didn't you know, I didn't speak to them since

1630
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 3: that day and I haven't spoken with anybody over there,

1631
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 3: So congrats to him. And again I want to be

1632
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 3: very clear, it's no beef with anybody, you know what

1633
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 3: I mean. Life is amazing life is beautiful, My car

1634
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: is beautiful.

1635
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: You you selling that ship? Yeah, I mean we you.

1636
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 3: Know, it's it's who I am, man.

1637
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: It's I mean, you can teach how to fish in

1638
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 2: there you went and got the information.

1639
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I'm here.

1640
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 3: Most importantly, man, I want creatives to know, like you're

1641
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 3: gonna run in the roadblocks, it's always gonna be some

1642
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 3: ship in the game that's gonna you know, tell you yo,

1643
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 3: fuck this ship, just you know, walk away?

1644
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: Nah?

1645
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, how to identify some of these ship.

1646
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 3: Just I'm just telling you what to watch out for,

1647
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: what to be careful for. It's gonna happen. I don't

1648
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 3: care how long you feel like Homies was homies and this,

1649
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 3: that and the third. When you know you you want

1650
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 3: to know who your friends are. Put some money on

1651
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 3: the table.

1652
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: Man, it's gonna expose it everything.

1653
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna expose it every time. And then you're gonna

1654
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 3: see what somebody think about you. You're gonna see how

1655
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 3: much they feel you worth. You know what I mean.

1656
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 3: You it's it's you know, go to the bathroom. Youre

1657
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 3: gonna come back. That pile won't look a little.

1658
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna put something in pocket. It's just it's crazy, man.

1659
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you start seeing it like that,

1660
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 3: I thought these was the homies and you know that's life.

1661
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 3: That's a that's just a life lesson. That's why I said,

1662
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's no, it's no, it's no, it's

1663
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 3: no hard feelings.

1664
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 1: No one ever see y'all make it up. Nah, it's

1665
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: over with. Yeah, I'm cut from a different type of

1666
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: texture too. Yeah.

1667
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 3: And then like I said, he started saying too much

1668
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 3: after that, where it was like, you know, homie, we

1669
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 3: know you stole money, Like you can start trying to

1670
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 3: create these narratives all you want, and we don't have

1671
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 3: no resume.

1672
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: And you coddled coddle to me.

1673
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: You coddled me.

1674
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: Niggas you crazy like niggas that know me, you know,

1675
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: you know what's funny, like people that really know us.

1676
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 3: And then they heard that, they was like, oh, yeah,

1677
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 3: he just he gonna do anything but just tell he's

1678
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 3: gonna start saying anything but.

1679
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 1: The truth at this point.

1680
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm just like, you know, you coddled me,

1681
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 3: Like all right, man, Like if that's the that's.

1682
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: What's the nature of the relationship. When did jaill? Like

1683
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: what what is he? What? What makes him even say that?

1684
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 3: I guess because like I was, you know, the house

1685
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 3: that he was renting he needed help, well, well yeah,

1686
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 3: I mean he needed help on He always had roommates

1687
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: and things like that, which is not you know.

1688
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,759
Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing, but it's it's it's rough

1689
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: to identify that as you know, coddling somebody, if that's

1690
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:36,639
Speaker 2: what that means.

1691
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: In his and in his mind. I feel like he

1692
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 3: felt like I had to live with him, like I

1693
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 3: was homeless or something.

1694
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1695
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 3: I don't know what type of story he's trying to

1696
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 3: create to justify his uh him stealing and or him

1697
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 3: doing whatever he did. I don't know. I don't really care.

1698
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 3: But the facts are the facts, and he know what

1699
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 3: the facts are. Like Homie cut it out, like you know,

1700
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 3: it was never that you know, wasn't that. You know

1701
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 3: me very well. I was never without anything. If I

1702
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 3: want something, I had it or I would go get it.

1703
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: Like you know, I think if y'all wanted to tank

1704
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 2: the show, like if y'all wasn't really trying to like

1705
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 2: make it work, that y'all wouldn't even done that Patreon

1706
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: like show up over that at all because, in my opinion,

1707
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 2: and I said this when I was speaking to Beat Marshall,

1708
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: one of the biggest tricks or one of the biggest

1709
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 2: coincidence coincidences I'll say in podcasting, is Joe Budden was

1710
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: able to transfer that audience before y'all left, right, He

1711
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: was able to take all of that interest that he had,

1712
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 2: number one that didn't get the deal and ball behind

1713
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 2: this creator talk and transferred that behind that paywall, and

1714
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: then y'all left. Now, granted, when y'all left, I imagine

1715
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 2: some of the people left too, but he was some

1716
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 2: of those people stayed to be nosy, that just stayed anyway, like,

1717
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,839
Speaker 2: so he was able to that transfer of that audience

1718
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 2: was so fucking important. Why didn't well, I guess because

1719
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: y'all wasn't trying to take the show, do you what

1720
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: I mean? How many episodes did y'all do on Patreon?

1721
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: Maybe? Two? One? Uh?

1722
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: I think the deal was signed in January. In the

1723
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 3: February March is when we left.

1724
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: Did he did you know about the deal before he

1725
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: announced that? How?

1726
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 2: How long did what did you guys know about the

1727
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 2: deal before he announced?

1728
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: Uh?

1729
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 3: Maybe a couple of weeks and didn't even that deal.

1730
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 3: Like I don't even know. I'm I remember he came

1731
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 3: in and was talking about something he was paying us

1732
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 3: in crypto or something like that, and then come to

1733
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 3: find out the deal we were we were supposed to get.

1734
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 3: I think more than that, Bro, I'm telling you, it's

1735
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,799
Speaker 3: so much shit that I'm more than positive that we

1736
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 3: were old. But you know, I got people that call

1737
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 3: every week. You know why you ain't, why you ain't soon,

1738
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 3: go get your fucking money. Don't let him take that

1739
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 3: money like that. That's a lot of millions of dollars

1740
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 3: in But I'm just like, Bro, I don't. I'm just

1741
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 3: so different man. You know, I'm just a different type nigga.

1742
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: And you know what, Like I said, I pointed out

1743
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: their principal move you made.

1744
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: That's say, that's say a lot.

1745
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, like I don't want to sit in no courtroom.

1746
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: And and man, I stopped fucking with my famous home boy.

1747
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 2: Who would have who would have kicked the white boy

1748
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,759
Speaker 2: out the car kept me in the car. I stopped

1749
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 2: fucking with him because he wasn't keeping it solid about

1750
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 2: the situation. That man, come on and if Joe k

1751
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 2: argue with that, bro. That's that says something, bro.

1752
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. He knows me. He I'm

1753
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 3: the same dude that sat in the cell because you

1754
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 3: had pills in the car. I sat in to sell

1755
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 3: with you for a weekend.

1756
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I never I don't pop pills. Come

1757
01:19:55,000 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: on your behalf. Man. I sat there with you. I was,

1758
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 1: I was sitting the screen, man, I was.

1759
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 3: I was always that guy like I don't. I don't

1760
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 3: because I know. See, you know what it is when

1761
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: you know who you are and you secure within yourself, comfortable,

1762
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 3: you comfortable, and not only that, you know that if

1763
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 3: I really start getting my ship off in here, these

1764
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 3: niggas gonna get upset.

1765
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 1: I can get thirty easy.

1766
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 3: They gonna they gonna get mad, they gonna get mad.

1767
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 3: It's like, now you know, I set the screen. But

1768
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 3: then it's like, you know, when I start getting my

1769
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 3: ship off, you look like you set in the screen,

1770
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 3: but you really pushing it. It's like you're really coming out,

1771
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 3: you really pushing that nigga yourself.

1772
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:43,959
Speaker 1: I'm still getting off, but it's like you ain't.

1773
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: Really as I'm still I'm still knocking them down.

1774
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 3: Like, so, you know, you gotta be very and that's

1775
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 3: to these creatives. Man, you gotta be very careful of

1776
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 3: how much you show and when you show it, because

1777
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 3: when people see what you really got, they'll close them doors.

1778
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 1: Man.

1779
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 2: Sure, And that's what that's what I find. Like, even

1780
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 2: with somebody like Joe. I know, everybody around Joe and

1781
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 2: all them people they say, you know, man, I'm I'm

1782
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: gonna tell you, man.

1783
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna get I'm like, yo, I don't.

1784
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: I don't see him shed light on anything that he

1785
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: doesn't benefit from, right, So I don't see him shed

1786
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: And even I tell you what I heard him say

1787
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 2: one time, he said he went to a dinner with

1788
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 2: a creator and the creator asks him how do I

1789
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 2: get ads?

1790
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: And he said, you want me to tell you how

1791
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: to get ads?

1792
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: And I to spend all my life doing this and

1793
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 2: you want me to just pass you the information. And

1794
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that's what the big homies supposed to do, right.

1795
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 2: So what happens is that's what I'm saying, And it hurts.

1796
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 2: It hurts the young creators because he talked so much

1797
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 2: creator talk.

1798
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying right now?

1799
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 2: You know, I think I think, you know, you know,

1800
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 2: like I said, he has this unique I'll give him this.

1801
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: He has this unique ability to take his friends and

1802
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: or do a podcast amongst his friends that translates good

1803
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: on camera.

1804
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if everyone can do that, right.

1805
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 2: I think that what he what he's doing now is

1806
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: different than what he did then. I think that when

1807
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 2: I look at the show that he has now, if

1808
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: you said you don't watch it at all, no, damn,

1809
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you, uh, do you do you

1810
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 2: even think that them dudes are good at pard?

1811
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: Do you think?

1812
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 3: I mean, I know those dudes, I know, I know,

1813
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 3: I is you know, he's he's in tune with a

1814
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 3: lot of the music, a lot of the new music

1815
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 3: that's out here with the young the younger generation. He's

1816
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 3: always been at that dude. He's always been the music

1817
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 3: dude that just listen to everybody.

1818
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: Just because you know music, don't mean you can pond.

1819
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 3: No, that's that's true.

1820
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: But it's is A.

1821
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,440
Speaker 3: He's a he's a he's a he's a smart guy.

1822
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 3: He's a he's well spoken, he's articulate.

1823
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: You know.

1824
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 3: But I think I think that what he's trying to

1825
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 3: do is recreate the fact that there's a lot of years,

1826
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 3: there a lot of history amongst them, so that trying

1827
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 3: to reach that, which is which is important in podcasts

1828
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 3: and having the chemistry, having a real relationship with people

1829
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 3: that helps. I just think that I just think that

1830
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 3: they are kind of like I know Is more than

1831
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 3: anybody's looking at him a little funny, you know what

1832
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 3: I mean.

1833
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: I don't he don't do to him.

1834
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: I give him that, Oh yeah, because it's just he's

1835
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 3: he's he's very strong, opinionated.

1836
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: He's an opinionated guy.

1837
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 3: But I think more importantly, I think that you know,

1838
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 3: Is has a history with him as well.

1839
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: Where's like, I'm watching you.

1840
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 3: I'm watching you like I know because if you if

1841
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: you did it, if you did it to Mall, you

1842
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 3: definitely do it. But you're gonna try to do it

1843
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 3: with me, and it's going to happen. A zebra, a

1844
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 3: zebra can't change the stripes. Man, a player can't change

1845
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 3: his game and the knife and you know what I mean,

1846
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of I think the only reason

1847
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 3: why it hasn't happened yet it'll be too obvious, you

1848
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's goning it's gonna drag

1849
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 3: out a little longer because it'll be too obvious at

1850
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 3: this point.

1851
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: But it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.

1852
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 3: I'm already I'm already hearing things, you know what I mean,

1853
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 3: I'm already hearing what he was trying to pay those

1854
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 3: guys to go on to.

1855
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: I'm already here. What happened to that? That too?

1856
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 2: Would have wait, I don't know, man, tool wouldn't have

1857
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: fuck away. I know that about tickets. They send me

1858
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 2: my money back.

1859
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, man, you know, like I said,

1860
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know what's going on over there.

1861
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's Rory and Maul for over here.

1862
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm coming to the show tomorrow too. Man, pull up.

1863
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna have fun.

1864
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 3: Man, listen. That's the that's the beauty about this thing. Man.

1865
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 3: We uh, we just were moving around and we were

1866
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 3: trying to just like I said, you know you you

1867
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 3: DM me. I've been watching you. I've been seeing what

1868
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 3: you do. I love your episode with a Little Baby.

1869
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 3: That's a show that I you know, I'm super proud

1870
01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 3: of it. I came out here when he shot the

1871
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 3: video with Saint John. Yeah, for Trap, and I told

1872
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 3: the homies back in New York, I said, said that

1873
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 3: niggas official. Man, I like the little baby move. I say,

1874
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 3: he's official. I said them niggas was inside that motherfucking truck.

1875
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 3: They ain't get out until it was time to get

1876
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 3: say say yeah them niggas is moving right for sure.

1877
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 3: But but but seeing his documentary and then the interview

1878
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 3: with you and a few other interviews that I heard

1879
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 3: I heard, I just I fuck with him, man, because

1880
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 3: you can just tell his again you know, morals, yeah, integrity, yeah, and.

1881
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: He always on the right side of man. You know,

1882
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 1: it's family. You know.

1883
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,600
Speaker 2: He put me in the hell of a position, you know,

1884
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: to roll out that album with me a number one

1885
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: album in the world at the time. It is like

1886
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 2: reaching and giving me that look. It's like, man, look

1887
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 2: you that ship you doing. We got to turn that up.

1888
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: And what's been happening here is the coach is doing

1889
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: that and that's so important.

1890
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Man. It's like, damn, I he's so now. You know.

1891
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 2: I always tell I always tell baby like I'm in

1892
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 2: debt with them for that, just on the strength of

1893
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 2: they could have win anywhere in the world.

1894
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: Man, dude, can go anywhere in the world.

1895
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: Man, Not only did they do that, they called me

1896
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 2: and said, put that motherfucker out first, like days before

1897
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 2: we even start doing media. You know what I'm saying,

1898
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 2: All of that so important.

1899
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn man, these are.

1900
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 3: Some real such See that goes back to what I'm saying.

1901
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 3: People are trying to make it seem like that's impossible,

1902
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 3: hard to do.

1903
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 2: Na.

1904
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: This is coming from the dude that got the number.

1905
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 3: One hour, you know what I'm saying, and he giving

1906
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 3: you that look and said put it out first. I

1907
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 3: wanted that to be the first look. You see how

1908
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 3: simple that is. But when somebody want.

1909
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: To do it, they gonna do it. They're gonna do

1910
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: it right.

1911
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 2: That's why we'll get the companies and we'll get off

1912
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 2: all of that, just get into business and companies and shit.

1913
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: That's why some of these companies they try to say

1914
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: certain things like you'd be like, yo, you got to

1915
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: have a budget, like we need some money. But some

1916
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: of these companies, you know, they'll want to participate and

1917
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: not really have act like they don't have a budget.

1918
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 2: Were a company can't find no money, Well, we didn't know, listen,

1919
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: if this was Jay Z in front of you, a

1920
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: fan some money, come on. If this was Royal rend

1921
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: Maul who you know just so eighteen hundred tickets in

1922
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 2: the last three weeks. If this was Joe Buden, if

1923
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: this was fucking but because it's me and you don't

1924
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: know my reach, you're trying to say, Hey, I tell

1925
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 2: you what we'll do.

1926
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,879
Speaker 1: We'll get you some ads right now. Fuck yours.

1927
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 2: I already gotten money and I'll reach out to the

1928
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 2: companies myself exactly right, because we have reach with each other.

1929
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 2: A company can't get in touch with you in the

1930
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 2: way that I did. A company couldn't get the little

1931
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:37,799
Speaker 2: baby interview. A company can't get bag meet Mill, company

1932
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 2: can't get Fred Taylor, Brandon Marshall. You know, Andrew showed

1933
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: Charlemagne who up Wilo Like, no company is involved in that.

1934
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: So we got to see the value from the company

1935
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 2: on what they do for us, what y'all deal? Was

1936
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 2: there a clip value because I imagine y'all were paranoid

1937
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: or or either had a clip vision coming out of

1938
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 2: the situation with bro that or coming out of situation

1939
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 2: with him where y'all wanted to have a clear path

1940
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 2: as to what y'all wanted a deal to look like.

1941
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, do y'all have the value that y'all want? With Serious?

1942
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 2: Do you do they understand y'all vision as well as

1943
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 2: the design people that work with y'all.

1944
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 3: I think they do. I think that was why we

1945
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 3: went with Serious. You know, we sat with our agent

1946
01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 3: and the relationship was there, and then they understood what

1947
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 3: we wanted to do, and and the one thing that

1948
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 3: they said they loved the fact that, you know, what

1949
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 3: we were building. They wanted to just be a part

1950
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 3: of it and they wanted to help enhance it in

1951
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 3: any way that they could. So that was why we

1952
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 3: chose to go with Serious, because they just understood what

1953
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:43,839
Speaker 3: we were doing.

1954
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: And they just believed in us, the US.

1955
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 2: Do you do you for people like at who called

1956
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 2: cap on the ten million dollar number?

1957
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 1: What what do you say to that? I never I

1958
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: don't know that dude. Yeah, well, what did you say

1959
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: to the ten million dollar number? Was that even a number? Y'all? Put?

1960
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:07,480
Speaker 2: Where did they get that number from? So that announced

1961
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 2: number or reported number? Someone?

1962
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: No?

1963
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 3: I think I think what happened was, uh, my brother Bigs,

1964
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 3: he had he posted a tweet when we we had

1965
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 3: a photo shooting in interview, we did went out and

1966
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 3: the picture we were smiling, we were laughing, and I

1967
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 3: think bigs his thing was, this is what a fresh

1968
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 3: ten million dollars look like? Big yeah, So you know

1969
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 3: they that that kind of is what people started running with,

1970
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 3: but it's not. It's not far from that though, right

1971
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: shut out. That's all selling tickets.

1972
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 2: They can cap on line. They can act like we're

1973
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: talking about who gets some tickets?

1974
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 3: So I mean we talked about who could just come.

1975
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 2: Outside exactly period, fox some tickets. Okay, you even go

1976
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 2: to the store with this podcast, And that's why.

1977
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 3: I'm just like, you know, I'm still trying to figure

1978
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 3: out what this online ship is, right, because it's a

1979
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 3: weird area. I don't play this game, so you know,

1980
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 3: when dudes starts, I'm like, is he for real?

1981
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 1: Is like is it really on?

1982
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 2: If I see him? Is it just for something playing right?

1983
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 2: Because I don't know and ain't nobody else playing right.

1984
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 3: So you know, dudes like that when he's talking and

1985
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 3: you know, he said things and I'm just like, I

1986
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 3: don't know this, dude, I don't so I don't know

1987
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 3: what this is about him calling cap on the ten million. Okay,

1988
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 3: I can confirm that it's definitely not far from that

1989
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 3: at all.

1990
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 2: And his part is a snooze fist. I'll say that

1991
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 2: it's a.

1992
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 3: But his but see, And this is another thing where

1993
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 3: you got to look out for. Like, I like what

1994
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 3: you do because you sit down with the right people, right,

1995
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 3: and you had the right conversations. You know, dudes like him,

1996
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 3: he's just he's a fan. He just want to be

1997
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 3: affiliated in a round, right whoever he think is cool

1998
01:30:58,280 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 3: because he's not right.

1999
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 2: So you know, you say the same thing Rich Homie

2000
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 2: Kwong said. He was like, I kind of went up

2001
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 2: with a minute. It was like, I know, we got

2002
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 2: a big platform, so I go through that.

2003
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean a big platform.

2004
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 3: You know McDonald McDonald's a big brand that ain't good

2005
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 3: food though, so it's like.

2006
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: Just readily available.

2007
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, it's just like that don't mean that's

2008
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 3: good for you.

2009
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 2: And you know, I always talk about them guys being

2010
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 2: the first people to do it.

2011
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: It ain't that they were chosen. They were just here first.

2012
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:34,759
Speaker 2: They just had a camera first, had understanding the YouTube first,

2013
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 2: and so the they're familiar to people. These guys don't

2014
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 2: have any context to anything. They don't have any real

2015
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 2: equity in the culture.

2016
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 3: What what what is what? What through a lot of

2017
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 3: these dudes, What are they bringing?

2018
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: What are they doing? What game? You're getting? What you're

2019
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: pulling from it?

2020
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 3: And it's and again, I just don't I don't like

2021
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 3: when you know, motherfuckers sit down and bring a lot

2022
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 3: of negative ship right mix, right, because we come from that, man,

2023
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 3: and that ain't nothing to play with, that ain't nothing

2024
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 3: to try to you know, throw fuel on that fire

2025
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 3: because you know, it's you know, it's just not it's

2026
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 3: not something that I want to even try to entertain

2027
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 3: because it's just I know what that is, you know

2028
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:22,600
Speaker 3: what I mean. So that's why I said, when you know,

2029
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 3: I hear a lot of these dudes talking greasy, I

2030
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 3: don't understand it because it's like number one, I don't

2031
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 3: talk greasy about y'all. And then number two, I don't

2032
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 3: play that game because if I see you now it's

2033
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 3: supposed to happen, right. I don't know how to gauge

2034
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 3: this thing, like because now if I go to a

2035
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 3: place where you're like, nah, but it was just I'm like,

2036
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 3: but I don't know that because I don't play like that.

2037
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 3: I'm find of somebody talking about, you know, suck my

2038
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 3: dick and all this other.

2039
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,960
Speaker 1: You going fine, it's like bro, you.

2040
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 2: But see if there's an old saying that people who

2041
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 2: never take war always want to get it going. See,

2042
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 2: they ain't never had to deal with the results of

2043
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 2: that exact, they ain't never had to lay in that bed,

2044
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 2: so they instantly want to how man Like I was

2045
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 2: just seeing they put rappers against each other, and it's

2046
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 2: just it be so much shit.

2047
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yo, they can go to war man.

2048
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you at the house and playing.

2049
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: Game Twitch ten hours a day. I don't understand it.

2050
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 3: And that's why I can't. I can't support that.

2051
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: Now.

2052
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 3: I'm happy that a black man is able to, you know,

2053
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 3: make a living and support his family, support it.

2054
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: So but at what.

2055
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 2: Costs, right, and get around some niggas to get some

2056
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 2: game because you bullshit and you done had all this audience,

2057
01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 2: ain't done nothing with it.

2058
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: This man said they had a podcast a year.

2059
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 2: Granted they had a brand moving into it, but they

2060
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 2: on tour already been in the UK probably the sold

2061
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 2: x amount of shirts, this amount of product, on this

2062
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 2: amount of people on Patreon like it's it's shit happened

2063
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 2: to here? You is with an audience. Ain't done nothing

2064
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,440
Speaker 2: with it this seven year, just sitting there on Twitch drunk.

2065
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: And still ain't and still can't come up as a.

2066
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,759
Speaker 2: Party in the industry building process. This is a new industry.

2067
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 2: Billionaires would be created, these niggas getting drunk, right, I

2068
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 2: don't even get it. Bro speaking of that, look at Yay,

2069
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 2: let's talk about that Yae. To me, it seemed like

2070
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 2: like I just tell you, he trying to break the chain. Yeah,

2071
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 2: Now how far did he go for that? How much

2072
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 2: did he risk for that?

2073
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 1: Is? Can he come back from that? See?

2074
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 3: The thing is, and what I don't think Kanye, excuse me, ya,

2075
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 3: I don't think what YA factored in is that black

2076
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 3: people we are so unorganized, We are so organized, and

2077
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 3: I don't think that enough of us are gonna back

2078
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 3: Yay and support Yay.

2079
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 2: Right, you know, but he's kind of been all over

2080
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 2: the place with his message too.

2081
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been a little all over because you know,

2082
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 3: I think Kanye has this thing where he's I think

2083
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 3: that he you know, I've always said it. I don't

2084
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 3: think he's a mean spirited person. I don't think he's

2085
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 3: a hateful person. I just think that he's very emotional,

2086
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 3: and I think that he speaks without any regard of

2087
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 3: who feels a type of way about it, right, And

2088
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 3: I think that when you somebody that caters to the public,

2089
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 3: when you've made your richest off of selling to the public,

2090
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 3: whether it be clothing or you know, music or whatever,

2091
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 3: you have to factor in who you're hurting in the

2092
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 3: public when when you speak. But I think that he

2093
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 3: has made some valid points. I think that some of

2094
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 3: his points I'm still trying to figure out and and understand.

2095
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 3: But again, I think the important part is he's a

2096
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 3: man who obviously feels some type of way about something

2097
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 3: about the way he's been treated, about the wayusiness is

2098
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 3: being done, the fact that, uh, his money is no

2099
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:08,919
Speaker 3: good in the bank all of a sudden, it was crazy.

2100
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I look at it like this, Right,

2101
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 2: we all need to be held accountable for things.

2102
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 1: If we cross the line or do something.

2103
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's man shit, Yeah that manshit. But at the

2104
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:24,799
Speaker 2: same time, the universe is perfect. So while they're canceling

2105
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 2: Kanye for being Antisemitican saying things that he shouldn't have

2106
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 2: said in the eyes of those people that been through

2107
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 2: those things were on the other side saying, but on

2108
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 2: Twitter they the word nigga usage is up five thousand

2109
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 2: percent and it ain't nobody in the uproar right, So

2110
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 2: where does language matter? Does it matter only on this side,

2111
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 2: or does it matter like because listen the same that

2112
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:52,440
Speaker 2: we know the word nigga derives from us being disrespected.

2113
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,879
Speaker 1: It ain't no intend on that if it's.

2114
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 2: Up five thousand percent with no records over there. But

2115
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 2: him saying I'm going death, which is a trick word.

2116
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 2: If you ask me, you ain't got no bitiness saying

2117
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 2: that word, what the fuck is defense readiness? How you

2118
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 2: going to be defending and ready? It just seemed like

2119
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 2: a I don't even use that word. So him going

2120
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,200
Speaker 2: into trick bag with the word, or knowing what he

2121
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 2: was doing with the word, it says to me he

2122
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 2: offended them with that. But they using on Twitter and

2123
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:27,559
Speaker 2: everybody quiet. It says to me, what does language really matter?

2124
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 3: But I think that's I think the important thing with

2125
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 3: Yay is that he's starting a common conversation about things

2126
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 3: that are happening, things that are going on, and I

2127
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 3: think that.

2128
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 1: You know.

2129
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,679
Speaker 3: Sometimes again, when people don't want to address the issue,

2130
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 3: they'll play semantics with words and hold on to certain

2131
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 3: words and move the focus. All right, I understand that,

2132
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 3: But the focus of what he's saying addressing is this.

2133
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 3: I understand he may have said some things that offended

2134
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:01,680
Speaker 3: some people and that that was wrong. Cool, we understand that,

2135
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 3: But let's get to what he's really addressing him and

2136
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 3: he y'all proving his point because y'all were able to

2137
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 3: take him from being worth eight nine billion to now

2138
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 3: what four hundred million.

2139
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 2: Because y'all said, so man, and that's so crazy, because

2140
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 2: you say this what I noticed about Kanye and it

2141
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 2: makes me really be like, wow, he still ain't panicked

2142
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 2: in the eyes of our public. Every time he come

2143
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 2: out in public. It's still because poker faith. He knows something,

2144
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 2: you know, right, he knows something we don't, right, And

2145
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 2: so I said, damn, hold on, he ain't panicking and

2146
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 2: he stood on status. He would come around us. I'm

2147
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:45,759
Speaker 2: the richest black man, I'm the richest. I'm the richest.

2148
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Speaker 2: They snatched that, and he didn't panic, So they say

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Speaker 2: something he's stood on.

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Speaker 1: But I also understood that he would stand on status

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Speaker 1: with us.

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01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 2: But then when he talked to Piers Morgan, he would clarify,

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01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 2: I only got one hundred and twenty million in the bank.

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01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 2: So he understood what he was doing when he when

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01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 2: he was braggadocious and stood on their status. But by

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01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 2: him not panicing says he has a plan. I don't

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01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 2: know the plan. I think he's trying to break the chain,

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01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 2: but I'm not understanding. Even speaking of deals, Adidas is

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01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 2: saying that they're going to sell his shoe and not

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Speaker 2: pay him. He says in the contract he's still supposed

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01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: to get a reduced rate. They going to ignore the contract.

2162
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 3: Because they can. But see, this is what I'm saying is,

2163
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,519
Speaker 3: you know, bigger conversations to have. And that's what I

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01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 3: think the ultimate thing of him doing all of this

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Speaker 3: is just to start having these conversations about control and

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01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 3: who has the control and who has the power, and

2167
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 3: who are the creatives and who are the geniuses? And

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01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 3: you know, we need to change some things, you know

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01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like if we able to have all

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Speaker 3: this influence and all of this creative control around the

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01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 3: world and all the influence on culture, we should be

2172
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 3: you know, paid for it. We should should have more

2173
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 3: ownership of it, we should have more rights to it.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the ultimate uh gist of his

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01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 3: his his whole rant and the thing that he's on

2176
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 3: right now is just you know, he's just trying to

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Speaker 3: wake wake people up to that, like, yeah, just because

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01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,799
Speaker 3: they give you a hundred million, two hundred million dollars

2179
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:23,120
Speaker 3: to play this sport, you really generated six billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: And Faarakham made a good point said, yo, when they

2181
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 2: say you're big and and you really ain't.

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01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: You don't even see that money.

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01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: They give you a whole bunch of money you don't

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01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 2: you can't touch, so they can't take it like that, right,

2185
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 2: they can just press the button and then you three

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01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 2: hundred million, they can just take it.

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01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,360
Speaker 1: That ship is wow, man, it's wicked. Man. We really

2188
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Speaker 1: think about it.

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01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 3: Some, it's some's some it's you know again that's you know,

2190
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 3: that's that's a little further up the pole that we

2191
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 3: ain't there yet. But I coming, oh, no, for sure,

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01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 3: and and I and I love the fact that just

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01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:57,920
Speaker 3: these conversations and start because why not let you know,

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01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 3: and and again, you know, people don't want to have

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01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 3: certain conversations because certain truths shall be revealed, right, you know.

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01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 3: But when you're on the.

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Speaker 1: Side of the truth, you want to have those conversations.

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Speaker 2: You want to say, Yo, let's have them on your camera,

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Speaker 2: your camera, let's have in front of your people, on

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01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:14,560
Speaker 2: your side.

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Speaker 1: Of the street.

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01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 3: Let's have it, and then let's make it right.

2203
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 2: Right, and let's grab the information out of it, because

2204
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 2: we are leading.

2205
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we lead, and let's learn from it. Like I understand,

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01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:24,639
Speaker 1: I'm leading.

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01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 2: That's why when I had these conversations, I have them

2208
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 2: from that perspective because I know I was on the

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01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 2: other side when he was saying Spotify one, I'm like

2210
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 2: screaming at the screen like them niggas want to be paid.

2211
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 1: Like like I say, you could be screaming at.

2212
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 2: Your mother about something and your girlfriend say, ain't no way, I'm.

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01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: Marrying him, right, he'll treat he. Yeah, you see what

2214
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

2215
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 2: So when you say fuck a contract and I'm sitting

2216
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 2: next to you can't get accounting.

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01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 1: It's saying, damn, fuck a contract. I know it ain't

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01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 1: meant for me, but it apply to me.

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01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 3: It applies to me because I'm in it. Yeah, Like

2220
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 3: I like I said, you know, it's nothing is by accident.

2221
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 2: Man.

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01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 3: Everything is uh, everything has its beautiful purpose, you know

2223
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,679
Speaker 3: what I mean? So I just you know, I learned

2224
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 3: from everything. Everything is a learning a learning process for me.

2225
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 1: I love learning.

2226
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 3: I love getting new information, you know, and I just

2227
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 3: like applying it and moving forward and just growing and

2228
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 3: watching myself.

2229
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: What do I look like a year from now? Man?

2230
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 1: Y'all winning, y'all show winning.

2231
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 3: We were building, man, We we more importantly, we just

2232
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 3: we just growing man as men were growing as a

2233
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 3: as a I me and our families, you know what

2234
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 3: I mean? You know, just doing things we never thought

2235
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 3: we would do. You know, I never thought that people

2236
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 3: would be waiting for me in London, you know what

2237
01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 3: I mean.

2238
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm a fucking I'm a nigga holl uptown New

2239
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 1: York man.

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, Like, I just you know, it's it's a

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01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 3: it's a humbling experience, man, a beautiful experience. But you know,

2242
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 3: it's just it's just part of what I always knew,

2243
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:57,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean as far as like just

2244
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 3: staying solid, uh, you know, standing on principals, standing on morals,

2245
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 3: being a being a good person. And that's gonna resonate

2246
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 3: with somebody somewhere, you know what I mean. And it

2247
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 3: may not turn into you know, a hundred million views.

2248
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 3: You know, if it turned into seven hundred people in

2249
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 3: the theater in London, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Happy, man. You want, Yeah, you want, I'm happy. Man.

2251
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming back, man.

2252
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 3: I appreciate you reaching out.

2253
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 2: Man.

2254
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 3: You know, I'm glad we finally got got a chance

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01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:29,839
Speaker 3: to connect. Love what you're doing. Brothers. You know, anytime

2256
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 3: you need anything from me, my platform is your platform,

2257
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 3: and you know, just keep doing what you're doing, because

2258
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 3: it's important to have real individuals in this space and

2259
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 3: in this culture that are doing and saying the right

2260
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 3: things but also standing on it, you know what I mean.

2261
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 3: So when I see see brothers like yourself doing things

2262
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 3: like that, you know I'm gonna pull up no matter.

2263
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 3: You see, I came straight to you by myself. You

2264
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

2265
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, Man, whenever, whenever, Man, you know, I'm dead,

2266
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:59,759
Speaker 2: whenever y'all the show You're.

2267
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 3: Coming out them all, Man, We're gonna have some fun

2268
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 3: to moll ship fun.

2269
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming out, man. Experienced podcast, do something

2270
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 2: with that game.

2271
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Speaker 1: Skid it