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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to another episode of Night Cap with
Speaker 1: Unk and o Cho. I am Unk, Shannon Sharp, He's
Speaker 1: my co host, Chad o Cho Senko Johnson, and let's
Speaker 1: not waste any time. Last night one of the best
Speaker 1: college games, Ocho, that I've seen in the mary very
Speaker 1: long time. In state rivals, there was a lot said
Speaker 1: Jay Norvel took his shot, and you know my mom
Speaker 1: taught me that when I'm in a room, I don't
Speaker 1: take I take off my sunglasses, I take off my hat,
Speaker 1: basically implying or inferring.
Speaker 2: Or you can make reference to that.
Speaker 1: Dione Sanders' mom didn't raise him bright way, but there
Speaker 1: was a lot to be said, and so we knew
Speaker 1: the game was gonna be a lot of pushing and
Speaker 1: the shoving. And I thought they'll let the emotions get
Speaker 1: get away from them for too long.
Speaker 2: I understand that.
Speaker 1: You know, look, you can't take no shot at my coach,
Speaker 1: you can't take a shot at my family, because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take my shots back at you. And so for me,
Speaker 1: o Cho, I thought that I thought the coaches, both
Speaker 1: coaches should have got a hold of their team a
Speaker 1: lot sooner Thatwithstanding, it was an outstanding ball game.
Speaker 3: What was your takeaway, listen, It was a beautiful ball game.
Speaker 3: It was a great ball game. Penalties, in fact, are
Speaker 3: the reason why Colorado didn't win that game, for except
Speaker 3: for a buck eighty two, if you take away some
Speaker 3: of those pillars, and it had a little bit more discipline.
Speaker 3: If the coaching was better, yeah, if you the mom
Speaker 3: ain't teaching that he would have been even if been
Speaker 3: able to stand on that hat and glasses comments. But
Speaker 3: obviously it didn't. It didn't go. It didn't go in
Speaker 3: his favor. But that was one hell of a goddamn game.
Speaker 3: All jokes aside, that was that was a great game,
Speaker 3: one of the one of the one of the best
Speaker 3: collegiate games I've seen this year so far.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's the best game I've seen this year thus far,
Speaker 1: one of the best games that I've seen in a
Speaker 1: very long time. You know, you say, seventeen pillars for
Speaker 1: eighteen for one hundred and eighty two yards.
Speaker 2: One of two things is going on here, o Jo.
Speaker 1: Either you're coaching it or you condone it with you
Speaker 1: at Jay Novel, there's one of coach players take on
Speaker 1: their coach's attitude. Yeah, so either you coach that or
Speaker 1: you condone that. There were two cheap shots and it
Speaker 1: almost put out it put out one of their best players.
Speaker 1: To put out one of their best players, Travis Hunt.
Speaker 1: I don't know why that's not a targeting call because
Speaker 1: the safety waited til his guy got out of the way,
Speaker 1: and then Lord a chief shot on Travis Hunter. And
Speaker 1: then we saw the defensive end Camara basically bear hug
Speaker 1: after the ball is thrown pin him, so now he
Speaker 1: can't get his arms out to protect himself and drop
Speaker 1: all of his body weight on top of them. And
Speaker 1: j Novela is talking about after the game, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know how we double them up in penalties because
Speaker 1: you were playing dump football and he's coaching dump football.
Speaker 3: That wasn't even coaching dumb football. That was it's okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take that one. That's what that coach said.
Speaker 3: And now he condoned that. You can tell by the
Speaker 3: safety's mannerisms after he made the hit. He relaxed, he's
Speaker 3: not even chilling. He knew it was okay to take
Speaker 3: that shot, right, and he knew said if you get
Speaker 3: a flag, don't worry about it. Coach, that one's on me.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you. You could just tell. You could tell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were trying. They were trying to send a
Speaker 1: message because there were a lot. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I think the Buffaloes were favored by twenty four points.
Speaker 1: Obviously they didn't win by twenty four and the game
Speaker 1: was in the ballance. You have eleven point lead in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and if you play smart football, you
Speaker 1: play discipline football as you mentioned earlier, you're probably gonna
Speaker 1: get out of Colorado out to see you out of
Speaker 1: Boulder with a dub with a dub. And now you
Speaker 1: get bragging rights. Now you get to go in front
Speaker 1: of ESPN, you get to go on your soap box.
Speaker 1: And you know this is why I take my glasses off.
Speaker 1: If this had I take my hat off. Now you
Speaker 1: gotta take your head off, your sunglasses off, with your
Speaker 1: tail between your leg and going right back up to
Speaker 1: Fort Collins.
Speaker 2: Call you caught that l shrdor Sanders.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, O Joe, but
Speaker 1: I tweeted, I said, you know what, he has a
Speaker 1: single digit number like Alway. Let's see if he can
Speaker 1: put a drive together. Make it reference to the drive
Speaker 1: that Alway had in eighty six in Cleveland. He goes
Speaker 1: ninety eight yards touch right, they're going to overtime kick
Speaker 1: the game winning field goal. Shador Sanders goes ninety eight
Speaker 1: yards touchdown, but he has to go for two. Get
Speaker 1: the two, and coach Prime did something I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever seen a college coach do. Going in the overtime,
Speaker 1: win the toss to take the ball. I want to
Speaker 1: know what I need. Do I need a field goal
Speaker 1: to win? Do I need to touchdown? Or do I
Speaker 1: get the touchdown? Do I go for two? He says,
Speaker 1: you know what, I got a hot quarterback and should
Speaker 1: do it. I trust you know on money they got
Speaker 1: in God, I trust. Coach Prime says, with the football game,
Speaker 1: it should do it. I trust he put the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands, and he says, I would have put pressure
Speaker 1: on them.
Speaker 2: I don't want it. Ain't no pressure on us because
Speaker 2: I got the.
Speaker 1: Best player on both teams teams, and I want him
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands.
Speaker 3: Listen when Prime made that decision and take the ball first.
Speaker 3: That is the ultimate trust in his son, trusting his offense,
Speaker 3: the ultimate trusting everything that he talks about in believing
Speaker 3: in everything they have in that locker room. The fact
Speaker 3: that he did that, which is almost frowned upon as
Speaker 3: a coach, Yes, always wanted you don't want the ball first.
Speaker 1: Because you're letting them know what they need to do.
Speaker 1: And plus you give them an opportunity because I also tweeted,
Speaker 1: I like, I believe they go for two and try
Speaker 1: to win it here because now you got them on
Speaker 1: their heels. You just going to touchdown and he didn't
Speaker 1: do that. So now he left the door open for
Speaker 1: them to come back and play and to play on.
Speaker 1: But I'm not so sure in that situation, I really
Speaker 1: don't have anything to lose because I was expected to
Speaker 1: lose anyway anyway.
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm going for two, O Joe.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel about it, but I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go for two in that situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most definitely, most definitely. I'm trying to get up
Speaker 3: out of there, getting get him up out of it.
Speaker 3: I don't want no more pressure. I don't want no
Speaker 3: more pressure on my back, and I'm trying to get
Speaker 3: up out of there with at w at all costs,
Speaker 3: going the kitchen sink at them.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm looking at your door.
Speaker 1: And he had a slow start, but he ended the
Speaker 1: game thirty eight or forty seven, three hundred and forty
Speaker 1: eight yards, four touchdowns. He did have that pick that
Speaker 1: krram off if his receipt off the receiver's hands. The
Speaker 1: question was, Ojoe, is that you heard and I heard
Speaker 1: all last year. Yeah, he's putting up those numbers, but
Speaker 1: look at the level of competition he's putting those numbers
Speaker 1: up against and so now what's your argument.
Speaker 3: There is none, There is nothing, and I will always
Speaker 3: I will constantly say this. This is a testament to
Speaker 3: players that feel that they have to be at big
Speaker 3: power five schools in order to get noticed. If you
Speaker 3: can play the game, it doesn't matter where you go,
Speaker 3: they will find you. You could listen, you could be
Speaker 3: if you was a nun and you was playing with
Speaker 3: the Sisters of the North at a Catholic church in
Speaker 3: the North Pole. Yes, and you good. They will find you.
Speaker 2: They will find you.
Speaker 3: Where you go is what you do once you get there.
Speaker 3: I don't care who you are. You know what understanding.
Speaker 3: You don't have to go to no school and sit
Speaker 3: down for three years. You have to go sit down
Speaker 3: and wait till your senior to play. You can go
Speaker 3: somewhere and if you really like that, if you really him,
Speaker 3: let me story when I was in you know, when
Speaker 3: I was in high school.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something real, real, small, real, real real,
Speaker 3: just about being in high school. My head coach, you
Speaker 3: know what my first name was? What I am? You are?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, I am? You know what my last name was?
Speaker 2: What him?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it don't matter.
Speaker 2: What ojo they say.
Speaker 3: You didn't start to your Oh Jo, they say you
Speaker 3: didn't start to your senior year. Don't don't do me
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: That doesn't matter. That barbershop, but you know that barbop,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's true. It was real.
Speaker 3: Don't do me like that. Listen. You know who was
Speaker 3: on my high school team. You want to listen to me,
Speaker 3: Dwayne Starks.
Speaker 1: That's why I know you wasn't no dB because see,
Speaker 1: if you see what you keep telling me. You told
Speaker 1: me I wanted to be a DV. But this is
Speaker 1: what I know about what players about athletes free rise
Speaker 1: to the top. I don't care how crowd of that
Speaker 1: dB room was. If you like that, guess what I
Speaker 1: go in there and cleared out.
Speaker 3: Oh no, mister Brown wasn't having that. Mister Brown wasn't
Speaker 3: having that.
Speaker 2: No, your skills wasn't having that.
Speaker 3: But let's let's get back. Let's get back, let's get
Speaker 3: back on time.
Speaker 2: But but I'm looking at that.
Speaker 1: But I'm but but that game last night, the Buffalo's
Speaker 1: had every reason to say, you know what, man, we
Speaker 1: just don't have it tonight. We had some penalties and
Speaker 1: costly situations. Uh, how many times did they allow them
Speaker 1: to run the drag or what we call a shallow cross.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, oh joe.
Speaker 3: He over and over, and they was in man every time.
Speaker 3: I'm I to myself, I'm like, where we just goes on?
Speaker 2: Just passed out and pass it off?
Speaker 3: What are we doing? Oh? Who?
Speaker 2: Number?
Speaker 3: I can't even remember number fourteen named. I don't know
Speaker 3: how many drags he caught.
Speaker 1: And sixteen passes, screams, Uh he caught, he caught, uh sixteen.
Speaker 1: He had seventeen targets, eighteen targets, caught, sixteen passes.
Speaker 2: But it basically all he was catchup was shallows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the shallows, over and over and over. And they
Speaker 3: didn't want to make the adjustments. They didn't want to
Speaker 3: make the adjustments. But everything panned out the way it
Speaker 3: was supposed to the way, not the way I thought. Listen,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you and not gonna see him.
Speaker 2: Lie.
Speaker 3: I love Prime to death. I love Prime to death.
Speaker 3: I thought that was that game was gonna get away
Speaker 3: from me. Yes, I thought, honestly, I really thought the
Speaker 3: game was gonna get away from I was rooting.
Speaker 2: I thought he had his guys.
Speaker 1: I thought he had his guys too, am I thought
Speaker 1: they were too am I thought they were too Yeah.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: You can take something personal but not make it personal, right,
Speaker 1: And I thought they had started to make it personal.
Speaker 1: And I thought that they had started to get out
Speaker 1: of who they were in order to get at them.
Speaker 1: Once he was able to get them in at halftime,
Speaker 1: settle them down and let him know he hey, calm down,
Speaker 1: Calm down. At the end of the day, it's not
Speaker 1: whether or not a only the twenty four points.
Speaker 2: It matters. The draft came.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to us. As long as we win
Speaker 1: the game. I'm good.
Speaker 3: I believe it.
Speaker 1: I believe in all of your guys. And the one
Speaker 1: thing I love most about Coach Prime is that good
Speaker 1: or bad, he's always encouraging his players. He's huggling you. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe coaching, because I remember and you grew up.
Speaker 1: Probably you're a little younger than I am, Ojo, but
Speaker 1: I remember when coach you used to grab you by
Speaker 1: your face mask, pull you put your kick butt. Maybe coaching.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe because Coach Prime doesn't do that. He's not
Speaker 1: coach material because he's so incurencouraging, because he's so loving,
Speaker 1: So he's so complimentary, and he treats every one of
Speaker 1: those kids like they're his actual kids, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, Coach Prime is different. Coach Prime is different,
Speaker 3: is one that the players can relate to. I think
Speaker 3: a lot of coaches envy that envy that he doesn't
Speaker 3: have the typical style of saying all the right things
Speaker 3: are going into your home and having to lie to
Speaker 3: your family and taking your things just to get you
Speaker 3: to come there. And once once you get there, they
Speaker 3: really don't treat you the same. Once they got you
Speaker 3: in the house, you don't changed all of a sudden.
Speaker 3: But Prime is very authentic. He's original, It's the original.
Speaker 3: One of the things that very many coaches at the
Speaker 3: collegiate level aren't from day one. They have to be
Speaker 3: someone that they're not, and I think that that upsets him. Prime.
Speaker 3: He took the position, one of the most powerful positions
Speaker 3: in collegiate football that not many of us are afforded
Speaker 3: the opportunity to do, to lead men, black men, white men,
Speaker 3: bringing everybody together and changing the program like this, right
Speaker 3: the snap of a finger. That's unheard of. Man. You
Speaker 3: got people tell you got people taking shots at you
Speaker 3: that have nothing to do with the game of football.
Speaker 1: Nothing said, My blessing ain't got nothing to do with
Speaker 1: your blessing at all at all.
Speaker 2: How many?
Speaker 1: How many times have we seen Coach Prime give in
Speaker 1: of you with glasses, with his sunglasses on, with his
Speaker 1: hat on. It wasn't like he just started this when
Speaker 1: he did it this week. Oh I'm playing Colorado State.
Speaker 1: Well let me see if I can get up under
Speaker 1: their coach's skin by doing an interview like this. He's
Speaker 1: done this before, so this is not out of character
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 3: He's been doing it since the eighties, the eighties, since
Speaker 3: the nineties. You know, it's just him. It's it's always been.
Speaker 3: It's always been him. But the fact that his makeup
Speaker 3: in DNA isn't similar to theirs. Right, Okay, something may write, Okay,
Speaker 3: we don't like it.
Speaker 1: Right, they find a reason, you know what I'm most
Speaker 1: excited about why I wanted him to win. Obviously, I
Speaker 1: want him to win because I believe in Coach Prime.
Speaker 1: He's a good friend of mine. But I wanted these
Speaker 1: naysayers and these haters to wait another week before they
Speaker 1: got something negative to say.
Speaker 2: That's all That's really the reason, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I wanted coach Prime to go three
Speaker 1: and oh, but I just wanted the haters to have
Speaker 1: another week. They got to bite they tongue because you know,
Speaker 1: as soon as they lose a game, they gonna everybody,
Speaker 1: they're gonna spill out.
Speaker 3: Yeah they are, they are. And that's that's the part
Speaker 3: of every Everybody waiting on that downfall. Everybody's waiting on
Speaker 3: that downfall. And what it makes me, what it makes
Speaker 3: me think about it, think about some of the best
Speaker 3: players ever that have done it. You're Tom Brady's, You're
Speaker 3: Floyd May, Withers, your Serena Williams. Yes, it gets to
Speaker 3: a point where you're so good at something, you're so
Speaker 3: good at something, you do it your way. You got
Speaker 3: people watching and tuning in just to see you fail.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. They're not watching. They're not watching.
Speaker 1: They just want to say, you know what, I was there,
Speaker 1: or I watched when Floyd got beat I watched when
Speaker 1: Dion lost your first game, or when Tom Brady. But see,
Speaker 1: they wanted to be in dramatic fashion. They don't just
Speaker 1: want you to lose. They wanted Floyd to get knocked out.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to go to a decision. They wanted
Speaker 1: to get knocked out. They wanted the Serena to lose
Speaker 1: in straight sets, six one and six moves, So that's
Speaker 1: what's most disappointing. And a lot of people, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something for the other side, but it's a lot
Speaker 1: of people in our community that's rooting against time, and
Speaker 1: that's what's most differ you.
Speaker 3: Think, So listen, I listen. I mean you, you would
Speaker 3: know better than me the landscape for you and your
Speaker 3: moral compass and your antennac is out there a little
Speaker 3: bit more than I am. But everybody on my end
Speaker 3: or we loving it, I'm sure you you probably on
Speaker 3: the other side of the spectrum. I seeing none of
Speaker 3: none of us really not root for How could you not?
Speaker 3: Could you not root for that? Because how could you
Speaker 3: not root for that? Because it's not your success?
Speaker 1: I want my success, and I am if I'm not successful.
Speaker 1: When they say misery loves company, why would I want?
Speaker 1: Why would I cheer for you? When I'm over here
Speaker 1: sad and I'm disappointed and my life isn't going well.
Speaker 1: Like the reason why your life isn't going well is
Speaker 1: because Coach Prime is doing good and bolder. That's that's
Speaker 1: why your life isn't well. That's why things are not
Speaker 1: going well for you.
Speaker 3: And that that's what I told That's what I just
Speaker 3: told you last week. That's what I just told you
Speaker 3: last week when we just talked a few days ago,
Speaker 3: not too long ago. If you focus on what's on
Speaker 3: your plate, if you focus on what you got to eat,
Speaker 3: and you lock it on what you got to eat,
Speaker 3: on what you need to do to prepare your meal,
Speaker 3: and stop worrying about the everybody else's recipe, you gonna
Speaker 3: be all right. But we always in everybody else's food
Speaker 3: trying to see what they eating. And you wonder why
Speaker 3: I shit, don't taste right. Ain't got no goddamn season
Speaker 3: of flavor. Yeah, man, don't getting man. It ain't even Sunday.
Speaker 3: It's Sunday too. Don't don't make me prees today night.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys beat the Jets thirty to ten. I try
Speaker 1: to tell you, but your head hard, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: learn sooner or later. Turn the ball over four times,
Speaker 1: three picks a fumble as dominating as the Cowboys of being.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing is is that because they've
Speaker 1: outscored their opponents seventy to ten, seven their off struggles
Speaker 1: have gone unnoticed. Right They've been in the red zone
Speaker 1: ten times, they've scored five touchdown, the twenty first in
Speaker 1: red zone touchdown percentage. They've had ten drives in the
Speaker 1: red zone, They've only scored touchdown on five of them.
Speaker 1: Dak is only responsible for fourteen of those seventy points
Speaker 1: to touchdown drive.
Speaker 3: So I don't think this is a good a good
Speaker 3: test or a good testament to who the Jets really are.
Speaker 3: I do this. This is not a good testament, not
Speaker 3: at all, because if you're gonna if you're gonna base
Speaker 3: testing the Jets off a plan against the best, the
Speaker 3: best right now statistically deef of the team in the NFL,
Speaker 3: that is unfair. That is justusin.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not I'm not basically there. I'm not
Speaker 1: basically off that. I'm looking at the body of work
Speaker 1: that Zach Wilson has drawn from me.
Speaker 3: When you talking about the past, man, you talking about
Speaker 3: the past, theoretically everything resets everything where it's a new season,
Speaker 3: it's a new spirit.
Speaker 2: Theoretically.
Speaker 1: See you say everything is the past four thirty four
Speaker 1: twenty five, today is the past. But I'm just talking
Speaker 1: about what I saw today now, how many games do
Speaker 1: you think they'll win with that quarterback player like he played?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 3: Well, one of the things that they don't have to
Speaker 3: do is they don't have to fix that goddamn Cowboys
Speaker 3: defense every goddamn week. They don't have to fix that.
Speaker 3: So I think I think defensively, offensively, they'll be in
Speaker 3: better situations. You can game plan a little better because
Speaker 3: other teams are gonna have weaknesses and other things that
Speaker 3: you can manipulate offensively and help Zach Wilson out being
Speaker 3: able to put other being able to put. Can you
Speaker 3: help read thess? Can you help him not throw the
Speaker 3: ball to the other team. Let's it's hard to read
Speaker 3: the defense when number eleven hitting you every time you
Speaker 3: drop back. Whoa, it's hard. It's hard to read a defense.
Speaker 3: What about Makai Parson's hitting you up upside the head
Speaker 3: every player you drop back?
Speaker 2: Hold on, I need to I need a red flag.
Speaker 1: I want to challenge something because when I told you
Speaker 1: on Monday night about Josh Allen turning the ball over,
Speaker 1: you say that's a part of the game. Now, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, defense ain't a part of the game.
Speaker 1: The other team not to have not allowed to have
Speaker 1: a good defense. If we got a crappy quarterback, they
Speaker 1: need to have a crappy a defense to match our
Speaker 1: crappy quarterback.
Speaker 3: You know what we're not gonna do is we're not
Speaker 3: gonna call the quarterback crappy. If you have an engine right,
Speaker 3: you listen to me. If you have an engine, when
Speaker 3: you put your key ignition right and you crank the
Speaker 3: car in order for that engine to work, don't every
Speaker 3: part inside that engine have to be working in unison
Speaker 3: right for that? But there we go, so we can't,
Speaker 3: you know what? And I ad just off, thank you.
Speaker 2: I know how we do? You know what? You know
Speaker 2: what I do? See you and I come from basically
Speaker 2: same kind of upbringing.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: We wait till the car put us downside the road
Speaker 1: before we get rid of it. Now, if the fail
Speaker 1: to crank, you had to have your cone boy, your
Speaker 1: auntie to come pick you up and take you to work.
Speaker 2: You know that cargo put you downside the road? One't they?
Speaker 2: But you know what you said? Nah, nah, it's I'm
Speaker 2: good club.
Speaker 1: I can't use spark pro spark plug, automattery, aboded regulatory
Speaker 1: matter of fact, just for just for context purpose for
Speaker 1: people watching Honda two thousand and six, and they and
Speaker 1: when it puts you downside the road, you like, and
Speaker 1: you they're like, man, that'll like, oh your fake man,
Speaker 1: I know that. And oh Joe, hey, not everybody about
Speaker 1: to get our thing and go live if you got
Speaker 1: you walking side the road, because it's gonna put you down.
Speaker 2: So you're gonna wait till Zach Wilson actually put you
Speaker 2: down side the road.
Speaker 3: He's not gonna put me down. You understand. Understand the
Speaker 3: analogy I just use. It's a it's a team game
Speaker 3: when things go When things go well, most of the time,
Speaker 3: the quarterback gets the credit. When things don't go well
Speaker 3: offensively as they did today. Again again you're going against
Speaker 3: the best defense in the NFL. Like it's not fair.
Speaker 3: It's really not fair to judge him off of this
Speaker 3: game today and then being thrown into the fire, and
Speaker 3: then being thrown into the fire with Anon Rodgers going down.
Speaker 3: All I ask from you and the people, the people,
Speaker 3: the gestination it even you, Shannon, a love patience. It's
Speaker 3: only week two. I asked you just give me, just
Speaker 3: give give Zach Wilson another week, another week.
Speaker 2: We're not trying to see that's all.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm teach.
Speaker 2: We're not trying to teach kids how to party over here.
Speaker 3: We're grown ups, were grown ups. I know we've grown.
Speaker 3: But you have to understand the situation at hand. Understand
Speaker 3: the situation in hand, have some type of have some
Speaker 3: type of sympathy and compassion.
Speaker 1: How about this here. You've heard people say this a lot.
Speaker 1: You can never out exercise a bad diet. No team
Speaker 1: can overcome bad quarterback play, not in today's game, because
Speaker 1: they've made it so restrictive. That's why the running back
Speaker 1: is not as valduated as he once was. Because of
Speaker 1: what they used to say, bring your run game and
Speaker 1: your defense and you can go places.
Speaker 2: Well, now they devalued. They put so much.
Speaker 1: Emphasis on Think about it, the defensive receiver, the incidental contact,
Speaker 1: the holding the quarterback. You basically only hit the quarterback
Speaker 1: between his letters, his numbers. That's the only target you've got.
Speaker 1: You can't hit him in his head, you can't hit
Speaker 1: him below his waist, and you can't touch anything. You
Speaker 1: cannot protect. You cannot hide him. There used to be
Speaker 1: a time you could hide your quarterback. I can hide
Speaker 1: every other player on the offensive side of football. I
Speaker 1: can slide the line one way or another. I can
Speaker 1: leave a back end, the chip his way.
Speaker 3: Through your receivers. You can stack you stack him up.
Speaker 3: I put him in motion. If they can't get over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I cannot hide that quarter I cannot. You
Speaker 1: can't hide him. Peekaboo, they see you. They're gonna make
Speaker 1: him play because once upon a time you can make
Speaker 1: you can make your quarterback a cheerleader. Now they made
Speaker 1: him a participant in the game. No longer a cheerleader.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to get exponentially better. O Joe Gold
Speaker 1: places Miami. I don't know if you noticed, but Miami
Speaker 1: looked real good.
Speaker 3: But very good, very good. I think listen, I always,
Speaker 3: I always believe in tour, and I think for a
Speaker 3: little bit, is the same way everyone was doubting tour.
Speaker 3: It's the same way they doing Zach. It's the same way.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean it's it's a little bit different
Speaker 3: because the supporting cast in Miami is a little bit
Speaker 3: different than that in New York.
Speaker 1: I'm all, here's the thing, just what kind of and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about since in that a little bit.
Speaker 1: But Joe Burrow, I'm always a little lary when guys
Speaker 1: just have that one year. But we saw tour over
Speaker 1: over over a span play well, we saw Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: for one year, and it was like the Jets were
Speaker 1: sold on him, Like they didn't have they had their
Speaker 1: mind made up.
Speaker 2: Okay, Joe Burrow's going number one.
Speaker 1: They identify Zach Wilson without even looking at any of
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks. And he had one year. He had
Speaker 1: one year, go look at the year before at.
Speaker 3: B y U.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I mean, the talent speaks for herself, because when you
Speaker 3: turn the film on, that's what it's all about. It's
Speaker 3: about I mean, obviously scouts what they look at, they
Speaker 3: do their homework and they see the film, and when
Speaker 3: you see the film, it jumps out on you. Based
Speaker 3: on what he said. What jumpsie was his ability to
Speaker 3: throw the football. He throw the ball on one leg
Speaker 3: or he's on one knee and throw the ball sixty yards.
Speaker 3: How many times he gonna do that in the NFL?
Speaker 3: How many quarters? Not?
Speaker 2: Not?
Speaker 3: Not many? But there are others, there are other variables
Speaker 3: to him that makes him a special a good quarterback.
Speaker 3: It just hasn't panned out there. Obviously, he has multiple
Speaker 3: multiple angles they can throw throw the ball from. And
Speaker 3: when he was come out in the draft, I called,
Speaker 3: I said, he is Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 2: Miss.
Speaker 3: I didn't say with Patrick Mahomes, so people don't run
Speaker 3: with oh I Chad said he was. I said, Patrick mahone, Miss.
Speaker 3: You know the ability to throw the ball, throw a
Speaker 3: side arm, throw it over the top. He can throw
Speaker 3: it with his left and you can do all that,
Speaker 3: you know, all that pretty stuff too. He just hasn't
Speaker 3: been able to do it. I think right now one
Speaker 3: of the problems playing that god damned New York media
Speaker 3: can really hurt your confidence having games like having games
Speaker 3: like today you're throwing, we turn the ball over and
Speaker 3: one of the picks is the goddamn running back fault.
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna get into that because there's no
Speaker 3: I don't have a presentation to show the people that
Speaker 3: it ain't always Zach Wilson. That's Messin's not having these mistakes.
Speaker 3: But who do they blame it on?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, Ojo, If I was in
Speaker 1: the courtroom, I would really like you to be my
Speaker 1: defense attorney because you're trying to put up a formidable case.
Speaker 3: But I'm not I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to go I got your video. I
Speaker 2: got your video.
Speaker 1: I got I got your own video going in the
Speaker 1: store and coming out with the TV. That's your OO.
Speaker 1: So I got I got all this film on Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: stak it up the joint. I got it, Okayed, what ojo?
Speaker 1: When you got into the league? What did they tell
Speaker 1: you that I in the sky don't lie. It doesn't
Speaker 1: know how much money you make. It doesn't know how
Speaker 1: fast you are. It doesn't know. It doesn't know if
Speaker 1: you black. It don't know if you why. It doesn't
Speaker 1: know anything. All it does is record what its the
Speaker 1: It captures whatever it is. Now what has that taped captured?
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right, you're right about that. You're right,
Speaker 3: you're right, you're right about that. But again, today's game
Speaker 3: is really is it does? It's just does. No no justice,
Speaker 3: no justice for that team offensively, no justice for that
Speaker 3: for the quarterbacks confidence to have to play the best
Speaker 3: defense in the in the NFL right now at all
Speaker 3: that that's just unfair, especially coming off what just happened
Speaker 3: last week.
Speaker 1: What about the Cowboys, because I think the Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: if going unnoticed because the defense has been sold playing
Speaker 1: so well, and that you know what things The tides
Speaker 1: are gonna turn.
Speaker 3: Now, tides are gonna turn when when when when you
Speaker 3: first start off I still remember this day. Defenses all
Speaker 3: they gotta do is read and react and just go.
Speaker 3: They flying to the ball just reading react. Offenses take
Speaker 3: a little time to jail the chemist.
Speaker 2: Shit build up.
Speaker 3: I say, by the time the cowboy gets about week
Speaker 3: three or four and all they turning on all cylinders,
Speaker 3: then you'll see a different ball game. And the good
Speaker 3: thing about it is and the defense can continue to
Speaker 3: play well right as you know, the deep and continued
Speaker 3: to be in that offense start to catch up and
Speaker 3: the identity is showing on both sides. Man.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 1: But also we're gonna get four game tapes on that defense,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna see what they like to consistently run
Speaker 1: to formations and what they like to do in certain
Speaker 1: areas of the field. So we're gonna get some more
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some more intaeil on things that they're doing.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: They're relentless at getting at your quarterback because what they've
Speaker 1: done is that they're tackling the running back on the
Speaker 1: way to the quarterback. Dan Quinn said, the hell with
Speaker 1: the running back the bichel But Diggie Zua, go get
Speaker 1: d Lost, go get the quarterback. Damn the running We'll
Speaker 1: let wolf runner. We'll let the other guys work about
Speaker 1: the running backs attacked the quarterback. Yeah, and that job
Speaker 1: would have got like twelve thirteen sacks in two.
Speaker 3: Games already, Diggs. The Digs them locking up everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the note ball gotta come out quick. I mean,
Speaker 2: you gotta do it? Are you doing all?
Speaker 3: You gotta do it? Sit down? You ain't got to
Speaker 3: move read three steps for what I ain't budgeting, Because
Speaker 3: let me get that you.
Speaker 1: Got a double, move Diggs. Because Diggs biting everything, he looking,
Speaker 1: he looking at your cheap picks.
Speaker 3: You ain't even got no no double.
Speaker 2: You got no time, You got no time.
Speaker 1: Uh So the Jets Aaron Rodgers had surgery short laughter
Speaker 1: doctor Neil Latrosh or the Curling Joe clinic out here.
Speaker 1: I know doctor Latrosh. I'm not surprised that he did
Speaker 1: the surgery. He's a world renowned. Top athletes around the world.
Speaker 1: Come get their knee done repaired by him, get his
Speaker 1: get their achenes uh. He did what they call a
Speaker 1: speed bridge, and Rogers is hoping to be able to
Speaker 1: return during the playoffs, so basically in four months.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't like that, especially with the advancement of medicine
Speaker 1: and the technology that they have.
Speaker 2: These surgeons are great.
Speaker 1: Medicine and technology is great, but to we pushing the
Speaker 1: upper threshold.
Speaker 3: Hold on, I need to put on a name tag
Speaker 3: because you just you just call me too.
Speaker 2: Then, I I mean, oh, yoh yo, my bad man.
Speaker 3: You gotta be up here sweating four months, four months,
Speaker 3: four months?
Speaker 2: Oh Joe is Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's unheard of for something that takes what
Speaker 3: sixth six to eight to recover. That's six eight that's six.
Speaker 2: To nine month injury.
Speaker 1: Easy, easy, because I think you I thank you non
Speaker 1: weight bearing for at least the first six to eight weeks.
Speaker 3: No, right there, right right, listen. I'm not a I'm
Speaker 3: not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. I don't really.
Speaker 2: I mean, where'd you stay at? So pretend to be
Speaker 2: what right now?
Speaker 3: Pretend to be one. Well, if you're gonna have a surgery,
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure what a bridge is, but technology
Speaker 3: actually is at a point in twenty twenty three where
Speaker 3: it is that advance where him actually coming for the
Speaker 3: playoffs logically can happen. It can, It can happen, It
Speaker 3: can happen. But I just that's scary. It's scary that.
Speaker 3: It's scary with that. You think there are two things
Speaker 3: you don't play with. There are two things in life
Speaker 3: you don't play with them come to playing sports. That
Speaker 3: scare me, even though I mean, thank god, I've never
Speaker 3: had those injuries. Your achilles. You don't want to play
Speaker 3: with that growing you don't want to play with Yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't want to play with anything.
Speaker 1: So off tissue because move any sudden movement is gonna
Speaker 1: irritate it.
Speaker 3: You don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: They said it's an internal brace called and this a
Speaker 1: speed bridge, so basically it helps. It says the speed
Speaker 1: bridge protected repair and opened up the possibility of an
Speaker 1: earlier return.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm reading here in my notes. Four months though,
Speaker 2: that's that's oh, cho, four months. Here's thinking about it now.
Speaker 1: October, November, December, January, January, that's four months.
Speaker 2: That's four months.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe maybe it's something else going on.
Speaker 3: We don't know about it. Maybe it's something maybe maybe
Speaker 3: it's something else, you swapping out, swapping out something and
Speaker 3: placing something else in there. Man, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they could do that with with
Speaker 1: the the ki les. Now, I have heard of them
Speaker 1: using cadavers for acls.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: You remember ap came back up in the I think
Speaker 1: he tore his a cl in December, and he came
Speaker 1: back and finished about eight yards nine yards short, breaking
Speaker 1: Ed's record rushing yards in the season. He won the
Speaker 1: MVP Rush for twenty ninety seven yards on a very
Speaker 1: bad team. That was I've never seen anything like it,
Speaker 1: but that was. That was like December January. That's so January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September.
Speaker 1: That's nine months. You're talking about half the time more.
Speaker 3: Serious injury injury. Yeah, that that that that's that's scary.
Speaker 3: That's scary to man.
Speaker 1: And he's late thirties, ap Ap probably was in his
Speaker 1: late twenties.
Speaker 2: Ye when that happen. So you as I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: you add ten years.
Speaker 3: Does does does age really play a fact when it
Speaker 3: came through injuries in the healing process though, do you you.
Speaker 1: Have yes, yes, yes, it's a proven fact. Are the
Speaker 1: longer it takes you to hell, the older you are,
Speaker 1: longer it takes you to hell.
Speaker 3: Yes, I ain't every really, I ain't never really believe it. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I just just honestly, just honestly, I've
Speaker 3: never really believe in that. Everybody's bodies different. Everybody's bodies
Speaker 3: different they have, everybody's body reacts different to different things.
Speaker 3: I think people hear faster than others regardless of yes, yes,
Speaker 3: your DNA is your makeup, and just the way we are.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not saying, yes, some older people
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but we age.
Speaker 2: You know, it takes longer than you remember. How Remember
Speaker 2: when you first came into the league, you.
Speaker 1: Could play a game that if somebody say, hey, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: we need you to play a Thursday night game, You're like, man,
Speaker 1: I ready, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Year five, You're like, no, man, I think I'm gonna
Speaker 2: push that thing to Sunday.
Speaker 3: And then by the time you got the year eight
Speaker 3: or nine.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, Monday night game would be even better.
Speaker 1: That body, the recoverability that the body had when.
Speaker 2: We were younger that think, no, don't, don't, don't.
Speaker 3: Function like it once dead Tea, you call me Tea again.
Speaker 3: But if somebody didn't listen, you just said t you
Speaker 3: know what you listen. I know you ain't trying to
Speaker 3: say we look like because I'm I'm I'm I'm handsome,
Speaker 3: handsl T t O facing the challenge man, that one.
Speaker 3: You know what it was, because you know what it is.
Speaker 3: You know that man been trending. That man been trending
Speaker 3: on my social media, on my time. Listen, I listen, listen,
Speaker 3: you talk to him. I need you. I talked to him.
Speaker 3: I talked to him.
Speaker 2: I was gonna reach I was gonna reach out. I
Speaker 2: was gonna reach out doing tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I talked. I talked to him in length yesterday. I
Speaker 3: talked to him in length yesterday. I said, T. T
Speaker 3: told me the issues that that they had. I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna share mere because that's not the place to share him.
Speaker 3: I also talk with Stephen A.
Speaker 2: Smith.
Speaker 3: I talked with Steven Ason. I said, Steve Man, listen here, man.
Speaker 3: I love y'all. I love both of y'all. You man,
Speaker 3: both of y'all are inspirational and very motivation motivating to
Speaker 3: me in different ways, in different ways. I look up
Speaker 3: to y'all in different ways.
Speaker 2: Afar.
Speaker 3: I don't even tell you that all the time. Just
Speaker 3: know I admire the ship y'all got going on and
Speaker 3: what y'all done. T been watching ta all my life,
Speaker 3: stephen A. I've been watching you even when I was playing,
Speaker 3: and actually couldn't wait to hear you at times. You
Speaker 3: know this, this ain't. This ain't what y'all need to
Speaker 3: be doing, not not not not This ain't what y'all need.
Speaker 2: Not us, not us. We did not, not not.
Speaker 3: Us, not giving not giving them something to talk about.
Speaker 3: Oh hire gods, and again, look at the you.
Speaker 1: That's why we can't have nice things, because y'all gonna
Speaker 1: tear it up between you.
Speaker 3: I'm not even trying to see it, but I'm trying
Speaker 3: to find a way. Yea, Let's facilitate each other each other, man,
Speaker 3: listen and talk about it.
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer. We can disagree. You got your opinion,
Speaker 1: I got mine. You see something one way, I see
Speaker 1: something another way. But for me, if I got something
Speaker 1: to say, I'm gonna call and you and I gonna
Speaker 1: discuss it. And it's not gonna be for the world.
Speaker 3: To hear, right right, right right, So.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's just Hey, look, people people attack me
Speaker 1: all the time because a lot of times, a lot
Speaker 1: of times here this is what I found out, Ojo. Yes,
Speaker 1: a lot of times if you can do something that
Speaker 1: they can do, but they but they can't do what
Speaker 1: you do. You see, I sit up here, and I
Speaker 1: was the first athlete skip Baylor's and Fox gave me
Speaker 1: an opportunity as an athlete to sit across from a
Speaker 1: journalist and talk about not only the sport that I
Speaker 1: played with basketball, baseball, social issues, golf, hockey, whatever the
Speaker 1: case may be. I was the first athlete to do
Speaker 1: that full time. Now there are others that have come
Speaker 1: since me, but now a lot of times people look
Speaker 1: at me because I didn't come from a journalistic background.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting across from a journalist and do and what
Speaker 1: he does, right, he could never live in my arena.
Speaker 1: And that breeds envy, that breeds jealousy, that believe, that bleeds.
Speaker 2: A situation where I've got to try.
Speaker 1: To well, I know just as much as you, right,
Speaker 1: but you know why you why you especially if it's
Speaker 1: like me and you Why would I?
Speaker 2: Why would I? Why would I feel.
Speaker 1: The need to say, Oh, I'm gonna tell y'all what
Speaker 1: what Oh Joe really like?
Speaker 2: Behind the scenes? I got this t on Old Joe,
Speaker 2: and I can't wait to spill it. What even if
Speaker 2: I knew it, I wouldn't tell it.
Speaker 3: Right And I ain't really got no t because I
Speaker 3: lived my life publicly. But listen, they need They're both
Speaker 3: They're both individuals that took different paths and Stephen, they
Speaker 3: might not have played. He might not have played. Maybe
Speaker 3: he would have a dreaming plan, but he wasn't able to,
Speaker 3: so he went a different route. T t did play.
Speaker 3: You feel Me? But boots of them climb that mountain
Speaker 3: obstacle in any way. They both made it to the
Speaker 3: top and the pinnacle of their childhood dreams. Whatever it
Speaker 3: may be. There is no reason, there's no reason why
Speaker 3: they are at that top to be going back and
Speaker 3: forth to each other when they're the only ones that
Speaker 3: can hit themselves screaming, because that's where everybody else trying
Speaker 3: to get to a we all trying to get where
Speaker 3: y'all at, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: One climb one side of the mountain, the other climb
Speaker 1: the other side of the side.
Speaker 3: But they're both at the peak screaming at each other.
Speaker 3: You you both think about it. You both great at
Speaker 3: your chosen profession exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you. Know, I've known I know,
Speaker 1: I've known too. I've always been a t O supporter,
Speaker 1: and I thought he got some brad rap, bad brad
Speaker 1: bad press at times. I think some of the things
Speaker 1: that he did bring upon himself. I've known stephen A
Speaker 1: for the better part of a decade, have gotten to
Speaker 1: know him a little better over the last year, and
Speaker 1: so I have nothing but love and respect for both guys.
Speaker 1: But I agree with you. This something that I believe
Speaker 1: that we can handle behind closed doors. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the issues are. I don't really
Speaker 1: care to know. But I think both of knowing steven
Speaker 1: A the way I know him, he's done with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, knowing Tea as much as I know
Speaker 3: t he's done with it. He's done with it.
Speaker 2: You both.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad I had I had to pause for
Speaker 3: a minute and think about it a little bit because
Speaker 3: I love him. That's my brother I'm talking about. I'm
Speaker 3: I love him like ain't nothing none of that. But
Speaker 3: but I think I talked to him, you know, and
Speaker 3: I think things are gonna be okay. I want them, too,
Speaker 3: gentlemen man to sit down and and and hash out
Speaker 3: their differences and and just just let bygones be bygones
Speaker 3: and just keep doing what they do and they respect
Speaker 3: the worlds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all. I'm all for that, bro, because like
Speaker 1: I said, I ain't I ain't out here trying to bash.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bash one. Look when I when I
Speaker 1: when I when I'm on television, Oh I talk about
Speaker 1: somebody talk about I'm just talking about someone from our
Speaker 1: community that plays a professional sport. I'm talking about you
Speaker 1: in that arena. I'm not talking about you personally. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about your family. I'm not talking now. If
Speaker 1: you're getting yourself in trouble, you getna du y, you
Speaker 1: do something crazy, I've got to address that. But normally,
Speaker 1: when I speak, i'm speaking about your performance or like so,
Speaker 1: and when a lot of times the new telling the
Speaker 1: truth is labeled hate, it's jealous.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that you didn't play well.
Speaker 3: Right and and and that's something that I'm gonna need
Speaker 3: you and I'm glad. I'm Steve, I'm god damn so,
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you said that. Now that I'm in
Speaker 3: that space I have there's one of the few things
Speaker 3: that that have a hard time doing. If you follow
Speaker 3: me throughout theirs, if you follow me on Twitter for
Speaker 3: people that are watching, I have a hard time critiquing people.
Speaker 3: I have a hard time being critical of people because
Speaker 3: there is no harsher critic to these athletes that are
Speaker 3: playing in those arenas today than themselves. And it to me,
Speaker 3: I feel it doesn't do them justice or me justice
Speaker 3: to sit on any platform and say, well, so and
Speaker 3: so didn't do this based on whatever regard or standard
Speaker 3: I hold him too, If that makes sense. I have
Speaker 3: to get a little bit more savvyate it the way
Speaker 3: you are, or the way stephen A does, to where
Speaker 3: I can be critical of an athlete's performance without him
Speaker 3: being upset or be considered. Hayden for that matter.
Speaker 1: Well he's gonna be up first of all. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: let me tell you. Let me tell you what Coach
Speaker 1: Prime and he and I used to talk all the time.
Speaker 1: He said, the reason why they get upset with you
Speaker 1: is that the argument that they used to use is
Speaker 1: that you didn't play the game, and if you did
Speaker 1: play the game, you weren't very good. Okay, I'm a
Speaker 1: three time Super Bowl champ right right right, four time
Speaker 1: first team All Pro, and I got something. I was
Speaker 1: number two hundred and sixty seven. I'm in a room
Speaker 1: with less than four hundred bus So now what's your argument.
Speaker 1: You can't say I didn't play because I played fourteen years.
Speaker 1: You can't say I didn't win anything because I won
Speaker 1: three chips. You can't say I wasn't that good because
Speaker 1: I got a gold jacket. So it cuts a little
Speaker 1: deeper when I say it, But just take it and says,
Speaker 1: you know what, instead of saying that man is hating
Speaker 1: that man got an eye, because I heard he was
Speaker 1: a student of the game, and I know where he
Speaker 1: came from and how hard he worked to get the
Speaker 1: word he got. So instead of taking it as a
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it as constructive criticism. Critics this man,
Speaker 1: this man is trying to give me something that's gonna
Speaker 1: help me, not hurt me.
Speaker 2: And so if they were to take if they were
Speaker 2: to look it at.
Speaker 1: That, because you have to understand, they put you up
Speaker 1: there because you played the game at a high level,
Speaker 1: and you see the game through a lens that the
Speaker 1: person at home is watching, so you can offer an insight.
Speaker 2: That's what you're giving.
Speaker 1: If somebody like I'm telling you the coverage that that
Speaker 1: the defense is in and where the ball should have
Speaker 1: gone or what the route the receiver should have run,
Speaker 1: you can't get mad at me because I'm telling you
Speaker 1: they take it like man, you try and they always
Speaker 1: hear the thing. Man, you know you bringing a black
Speaker 1: man down. Bro, I'm not you. Bro, I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to bring no black man down. All I'm saying is
Speaker 1: I'm critiquing your game, right saying in that game. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to take away anything that you've done in
Speaker 1: the in the past. So whatever you've done, the All Pros,
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowls, the deplete dp O wise, the m
Speaker 1: v PS, that's yours. But today, Sunday, Monday or Thursday,
Speaker 1: you didn't play.
Speaker 2: Well, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got you, I got That's That's something I
Speaker 3: have to learn to navigate and get a little bit
Speaker 3: more comfortable with, get a little bit more comfortable with
Speaker 3: doing and and and in the right way, because I
Speaker 3: just you ever have players come up to.
Speaker 1: You, Yes, but you know what, I look the best
Speaker 1: the thing that they come up A lot of.
Speaker 3: Them like they like they were gonna beat you, They
Speaker 3: were gonna beat you up. Nona happen.
Speaker 2: We will have a here, We're gonna have a healthy discussion.
Speaker 3: But that ain't going that ain't going down.
Speaker 1: That ain't happen like that. But you know what, you
Speaker 1: know what they tell me, they'll know what they tell me.
Speaker 1: Real talk, real talk. They say, man, you hard, yeah, fair, fair,
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, that's all that's
Speaker 1: all I can do. As you get further and further
Speaker 1: away from the game, you'll have less and less guys
Speaker 1: that you played with and played against.
Speaker 2: It gets easier.
Speaker 1: But I never had I never had a problem telling
Speaker 1: the truth because I would tell the truth when I
Speaker 1: played bad, or I would call up my own teammates
Speaker 1: when they didn't play good. So for me, just tell
Speaker 1: the truth. I'm never gonna ask a man more than
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give.
Speaker 2: So just take it like man, man, shut a shop. Man.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at what that man accomplished. He must
Speaker 2: know something.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Accidentally, you can't accidentally, You just don't accidentally and stumble
Speaker 1: up in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: You don't follow your way into three Super Bowl O Joe.
Speaker 3: You're right, you're right. We'll shooting mich I ain't got
Speaker 3: no job. I made my own jacket, So I'm like
Speaker 3: kind of qualified. I inducted myself.
Speaker 1: But you are qualified because you played the game at
Speaker 1: a high level.
Speaker 2: You are a student of a game of.
Speaker 3: A good too. Hunh yeah yeah, And because you offered
Speaker 3: opinion like this is you know what, this is what
Speaker 3: I saw. It's just unfa me. A territory for me,
Speaker 3: it's unfa me. I'm just gonna be honest. And you
Speaker 3: you you you might not have followed me closely throughout
Speaker 3: my career, but people that do. It's one thing I
Speaker 3: always do. I'm gonna lift up and pump up any
Speaker 3: and everybody. If there's something negative going around the individual,
Speaker 3: who will be the first one on Twitter to find
Speaker 3: the littlest positive, the littleist. So just having to critique
Speaker 3: and analyze anybody and the negative. I know what it's
Speaker 3: like to have a bad game. I know what it's
Speaker 3: like the drop of ball, all that matters. I know
Speaker 3: what it's like. Yes, I've been in my mind. In
Speaker 3: my mind, I'm thinking, like, who in the fuck I
Speaker 3: think I am to be not be playing and be
Speaker 3: criticized and do that our plan that are going through
Speaker 3: the same thing I went through when I was playing.
Speaker 3: That's just it's hard. It's part it's part of the game.
Speaker 3: But it's it's it's just hard.
Speaker 1: But because you offer a critique of someone, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you're you're you're criticizing him. You're criticizing his performance
Speaker 1: or the play. But that particularly, they can't separate the two.
Speaker 1: That's the problem, a problem. So let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question.
Speaker 2: Who cutting the checks? Draft Kings or they?
Speaker 3: What you mean for me? Yeah, you mean in general?
Speaker 2: You know right now?
Speaker 3: Okay, well it's it's too it's two separate checks being cut.
Speaker 3: Draft then you know, my old lady cut the check.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a stay at home dad. I got
Speaker 3: a little allowance. What Yeah, that's that's that's another story
Speaker 3: where when we finished football, we'll get on that. We
Speaker 3: I gotta I'm want to talk to you real quick.
Speaker 3: The revisit something back from January, but go ahead, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's the that's the thing, and I think ain't
Speaker 1: once guys understand that because I'm not gonna take a
Speaker 1: personal shot at you.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, you know, this is what transpired. Blog.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have let this happen. Okay, you know a
Speaker 1: zero coverage. Why would you let the guy inside of
Speaker 1: your DV?
Speaker 2: Okay? You know you see the blitz coming? Okay? Why
Speaker 2: would you let the guy beat you inside? Okay? You
Speaker 2: gotta stick with you.
Speaker 1: You gotta be strong with your inside foot because you
Speaker 1: see the guy it's gonna come inside right right, the guys,
Speaker 1: if you see that, if I see the safety down,
Speaker 1: if I see the safety down, where do you think
Speaker 1: the guy in front of me is going he's gonna
Speaker 1: cross my face? Because he has because the safety is down.
Speaker 1: And if you study, take what they're gonna do. Now
Speaker 1: you know what, O Joe. They get the practice too.
Speaker 1: Now they gonna give you a look or two that
Speaker 1: you haven't studied. But more time than not, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be true to who they are down in distance area
Speaker 1: of the field.
Speaker 3: Yep, not not much changes to a game plan or
Speaker 3: wrinkle here, a wrinkle there. It'd be the same place
Speaker 3: you watched on film, just different formation and different salad dressing.
Speaker 3: As I called it.
Speaker 1: But what you're gonna do, You're gonna react improvisation. The
Speaker 1: really great players have great improvisational skills.
Speaker 3: Think that.
Speaker 1: Well, why'd you do that? I said, because let me
Speaker 1: tell you what happened. I say, See, when y'all drew
Speaker 1: them excellent nods on the boards, they didn't move. I
Speaker 1: knew some game time he was gonna move right right, I.
Speaker 3: Did, right right?
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't. We got to talk about this. Your Bengals,
Speaker 1: Your Bengals, who they When day go get win? When
Speaker 1: day Joe Brow, Hey, Joe Burrow not looking good?
Speaker 2: O Joe good? Listen.
Speaker 3: We started owing to last year? He wasn't looking good
Speaker 3: then either. We started Oh, we started owing to last year.
Speaker 3: We weren't looking good either. Always ride to the crop.
Speaker 3: Have you ever made Pillsbury croissants in the oven? Have
Speaker 3: you ever made them? No? You know how they start out?
Speaker 3: They start out flat, start out flat, and over time,
Speaker 3: when you put the oven on three fifty, they started
Speaker 3: to plump up.
Speaker 1: All I know is a Croissan's gonna start at a
Speaker 1: pancakes mixed. So all I know is that when yo
Speaker 1: yo guy came into the season with a calf injury,
Speaker 1: and he said after the day he aggravated that injury. Now,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something how my thought process was
Speaker 1: and when I went Normally, when you limp into the season,
Speaker 1: you limp out of the season. Isn't that true, Ojo? Normally,
Speaker 1: when you come into the season with an injury, how
Speaker 1: you get healthy? How you get healthy? When you go
Speaker 1: out there and you got to go out there and
Speaker 1: practice and you got to play every Sunday.
Speaker 2: So how do you get here healthy?
Speaker 1: Because when you have surgery, when you're a normal person,
Speaker 1: what you do, Oyo, you have an injury, they give you,
Speaker 1: they say rest, rest, rest, I compression elevator.
Speaker 2: Now how you do that? In the NFL?
Speaker 3: Listen, this is the NFL, right, yeah, not long, not
Speaker 3: for long if you don't get it right. But you know,
Speaker 3: even though it's week two, is it about eighty percent
Speaker 3: of players that are don healthy? Every everybody ain't fresh. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a part of the game. Everybody ain't fresh. People
Speaker 3: got hurt in the preseason, people get hurt in practice. Nobody,
Speaker 3: nobody is one hundred percent and it's only week two.
Speaker 3: That's a part of the game. It's gonna always be
Speaker 3: like that. And it's it's going to continue to stay
Speaker 3: like that. No matter how much they try to protect
Speaker 3: the players, You're going to get hurt. You're going to
Speaker 3: have Nicks and Nick's naxt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't want that guy to stay hurt,
Speaker 2: he said.
Speaker 3: Wait, of course, of course you don't want to be hurt.
Speaker 3: He said. It bothered him a little bit. Did it
Speaker 3: affect his game play today?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know he won seven in his
Speaker 1: first two, in the first two games in his career,
Speaker 1: he's won in seven.
Speaker 3: We scored three points. Last week, we scored twenty four.
Speaker 3: We scored twenty four points a day. You see, you
Speaker 3: see what's direction we're going? Or are you with me?
Speaker 3: Are you? Are you with me? We didn't win the game.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you, Let me ask you. We're going.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Does does this offense?
Speaker 1: How does it look to you? How does he look?
Speaker 1: How does Jamar Chase look? Do you see the frustration
Speaker 1: building on Jamar Chase? Okay, it's only we two, it's
Speaker 1: only we two. We were going to be fine. We
Speaker 1: are going to be fine.
Speaker 3: Listening, I remember, I remember uh being frustrated two in
Speaker 3: week two when things weren't going well. But Carson and
Speaker 3: I I wouldn't getting that ball like I felt I
Speaker 3: should be getting it. And then listen and then wait,
Speaker 3: wait a minute. We got about week three. We got
Speaker 3: about week three, I probably had two after two games,
Speaker 3: I probably had about forty five yards. I'm mad, I'm upset.
Speaker 3: I'm side eye and Carson on the sideline. You know,
Speaker 3: but I ain't saying nothing. You know, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 3: We well, we get the week three and then go
Speaker 3: for one. We get the week four, I go for
Speaker 3: two sixty?
Speaker 2: What you had a you had a sixty?
Speaker 3: And now what bo You ain't never seen me play?
Speaker 3: You better google me playing? Yeah, and then it all,
Speaker 3: it all, it all just started to fall, it all,
Speaker 3: Just start listen. God got favor on them Bengals. We're
Speaker 3: gonna be all right, Jamal Chase is gonna have a
Speaker 3: hell of a season regardless of what's going on right now.
Speaker 3: Is never how you start. And I know, Jamal, I
Speaker 3: know you're gonna see this. It's never how you start,
Speaker 3: it's how you finish. And I guarantee you this, you
Speaker 3: will still finish top five and targets and receiving yards
Speaker 3: when it's all said and done this season, guarantee you.
Speaker 1: And they still got they got the Dolphins, the chiefs
Speaker 1: Uh package?
Speaker 3: When when? When?
Speaker 1: What was working against you for the division you're owing
Speaker 1: to in your division?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 2: Are you o in two in your division?
Speaker 3: Let me talk to you real quick, stay with me, right,
Speaker 3: it's Sunday, hunh Yeah you know Mary? Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: what Mary had? But yeah, lamb, Yeah, she had a
Speaker 3: little lamb.
Speaker 1: You know what you know, you know what they do,
Speaker 1: the little lambs, lamb chops, lollipops.
Speaker 2: I like my little on the on the rare side.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you like.
Speaker 3: Your Listen on a serious, on a serious note, we
Speaker 3: we're gonna get it together for some reason, all serious,
Speaker 3: all Joe decided on on a serious note, for some reason,
Speaker 3: the Bengals. We always have a slow start. We always
Speaker 3: have a start. It's happened now three years in a
Speaker 3: row with us having a slow start, and these same
Speaker 3: questions always happened to the media, always wrong with the Bengals,
Speaker 3: always wrong with Joe Burrow or man, we're gonna be
Speaker 3: We're gonna be all right, We're gonna be all right.
Speaker 2: What y'all gonna do with that old line.
Speaker 3: The old line has been the same problem. We went
Speaker 3: to Super Bowl. The old line was the same problem
Speaker 3: we went to the AFC Championship. If y'all try to
Speaker 3: the old line, we are gonna be okay, gonna be
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: O Joe, you can't keep taking those lists. You see
Speaker 1: what that you see? You see Andrew? Look they forced
Speaker 1: Andrew look to retire thirdy not cut that.
Speaker 3: What you're not finna do is say our offensive line
Speaker 3: as bad as that offensive line and Andrew look had
Speaker 3: Don't do that. Don't do me like that. Don't do that.
Speaker 3: The devil, the devil is a.
Speaker 1: Lie because Burrow was so historically great in that playoff run.
Speaker 1: That man got sacked nineteen times in four games. That's
Speaker 1: unheard of in a playoff run. He got sacked nine
Speaker 1: times and still won a game that's unheard of.
Speaker 3: You know, you know it is heard of. That is
Speaker 3: a testament to how great Joe Burrow is. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: how great he is.
Speaker 1: Yes, but you can't consistently overcome poor offensive line play.
Speaker 3: You are right, listen, adjustments will we made. Those adjustments
Speaker 3: will be made in house.
Speaker 1: I don't think I think he has an opportunity to
Speaker 1: be his accuracy, his ability to go to football with
Speaker 1: Higgins and Chase. Yeah, he has a boyd they have.
Speaker 1: They got a decent running game with mixing, great running game.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I said, good, So you you you've lost,
Speaker 2: You've lost, no no confidence in your you? You good?
Speaker 3: I'm good. No, that's see. Sometimes in relationships, right, sometimes
Speaker 3: in relationships.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, here we go ups.
Speaker 3: And downs, ups and downs, just like they are right now.
Speaker 2: How many ups and how many downs?
Speaker 3: Well, she has only been it's only been two downs.
Speaker 3: It's only down. It's been two downs. Y'all have had
Speaker 3: two arguments and looked like you ready jump ship? You
Speaker 3: read you ready to jump ship? After two arguments? Did
Speaker 3: she talk about my mama? Because I got to go?
Speaker 3: She talked about my mama. Granted I got to go. Nah, No, okay,
Speaker 3: I work it out. I'm working out.
Speaker 2: Well, work it out.
Speaker 3: You can work it out. You can work it out.
Speaker 1: The Broncos they have an eighteen point lead, that were
Speaker 1: twenty one to three, and we turned this talk about
Speaker 1: this new culture. You got a coach that's making probably
Speaker 1: somewhere between eighteen and twenty million dollars. You got a
Speaker 1: quarterback making a north of forty five million dollars, And.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's going on with you?
Speaker 3: We put up the point? Who put who put up
Speaker 3: the points?
Speaker 2: Today?
Speaker 1: The Broncos had a twenty one three league out in Arizona.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, he was played. They played the Commanders.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I mean I'm the Commanders. Yeah, yeah, my bad.
Speaker 1: They played the Commanders. Got out to a twenty one
Speaker 1: three league league. And you know, a couple of turnover,
Speaker 1: a couple of you know, the quickest way to get
Speaker 1: yourself out of a game and get the other team
Speaker 1: back in turn the ball over, give.
Speaker 2: Them the ball?
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, every time?
Speaker 2: What's going over? Russ? What's going on? I like?
Speaker 1: I like Russ's football still number one to him because.
Speaker 3: He promotes nothing else outside of just football. He promotes
Speaker 3: nothing else. He lives, eats, you know what football always
Speaker 3: had He's a quarterback. He had no choice.
Speaker 2: But but what happened? Have you seen it?
Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy without an injury look like
Speaker 1: he looked the last year half, the last part the
Speaker 1: last part of when he was in Seattle last year. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna okay, we can blame that on Nathan your
Speaker 1: Hacket said. Okay, maybe Nathaniel Hacket was over his head,
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't deserve to be a head coach, but
Speaker 1: you gotta look at Russ the last the last half
Speaker 1: of when he was in Seattle, and look at Denver
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 2: Now some made something ain't right.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, we got it. Nah, I ain't nothing wrong.
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing rolling them, Ain't nothing rolling them. It's just
Speaker 3: I think what we have to do is is we
Speaker 3: have expectations for players. We have expectations for players and partnership.
Speaker 3: When certain partnerships come together, Oh, we got Sean Payton,
Speaker 3: we got Russell Wilson. Sean Payton comes in with the
Speaker 3: iron fist. That's the way he's gonna rule. So we
Speaker 3: expect with Sean Payton coming in with the iron fist,
Speaker 3: telling Russell Wilson, well, this is how things are gonna go.
Speaker 3: This is the thing that's gonna be, and we're gonna
Speaker 3: get you back to this way and play football the
Speaker 3: way I want you to play football as a quarterback
Speaker 3: of my team. It just it hasn't panned out and
Speaker 3: the way it should. But is it the time to
Speaker 3: hit the panic button? In Week two?
Speaker 2: No, No, I just think.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that made Russ's sensational the deep legs,
Speaker 1: his legs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the defense and his legs. He can still run
Speaker 2: like man, I saw them joke. Look, I saw play today.
Speaker 1: Russ would have been out of bounds, grabbed him a
Speaker 1: cup of water on the posing gate on the sideline,
Speaker 1: drank it and got back in the game.
Speaker 2: They ran him.
Speaker 3: Down and uh uh and time ran up the clock.
Speaker 2: They had to kill the clock. He's not He's not.
Speaker 2: He's not. He's not the same.
Speaker 1: And I think I think he's a phenomenal I think
Speaker 1: he's a phenomenal man. I think he's a phenomenal husband.
Speaker 1: And I'm just basing that on what I see. I
Speaker 1: don't know what goes on in that man's household behind
Speaker 1: closed door. It could all be a lie. I don't
Speaker 1: believe it is.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 1: I think that's but I'm not judging him on that.
Speaker 1: I'm judging him. I believe blue and orange, all that
Speaker 1: other stuff. He can have thirty three kids. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Right I need you to.
Speaker 3: Play quarterback, quarterback from my brother at a high level level.
Speaker 1: And right now it's not getting done. Now you've lost
Speaker 1: your first think about it, o Jo, You've lost your
Speaker 1: first two games at home.
Speaker 2: You got to go on the road, on the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Well listen, if there's one person who's gonna
Speaker 3: make it happen, you get you're paying one person forty
Speaker 3: forty what how much Russell making forty what forty forty eight?
Speaker 3: But what they're paying the coach that is you brought.
Speaker 2: In probably somewhere probably eighteen twenty.
Speaker 3: That magic gonna happen. That that magic is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: It's gonna happen. It had no choice to It had
Speaker 3: no choice but to turn around, just based on the
Speaker 3: work that they put in to this point.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm tired of I'm tired of I'm tired of
Speaker 1: jumping on everybody else's bandwagon because my team not good
Speaker 1: and everybody else team in the playoffs in mind not.
Speaker 3: Listen life football ups and downs.
Speaker 1: We just we just had an anniversary, our twenty fifth
Speaker 1: anniversary with our second super Bowl. Then unfortunately I wasn't
Speaker 1: able to attend. That's what that's what Bronco fans are
Speaker 1: used to. They used to winning. We ain't been to
Speaker 1: the playoffs and says Hammer was the hatchet y'all.
Speaker 3: Just y'all just won a Super Bowl not long ago. Now,
Speaker 3: come on longer. That wasn't even that long ago. Now,
Speaker 3: don't do that. Don't do that. Don't don't be selfish.
Speaker 3: This is what we're used to out y'all. You see this.
Speaker 3: If you're not, I'm just saying I ain't never had
Speaker 3: one of them. That's pretty though.
Speaker 1: Well, I help, I helped get three of these. That's
Speaker 1: what we used to out, y'all. Know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: That's what we used to in them.
Speaker 3: I want, I want, I want a few of them
Speaker 3: on Madden though. I know. Yeah, I'm I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: just being honest. I wanted to bring one of them
Speaker 3: to Cincinnati too. I tried, I did everything I could.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just what happened. You know how many
Speaker 3: teams done done, got got one of these. My homeboy
Speaker 3: got two of these since the Broncos won their last
Speaker 3: one in fifteen, the Patrick Tampa Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: what you want, Brady. You want Brady to come and
Speaker 3: play for for Denver.
Speaker 2: I'll take it. Hey, I take it. I'll take it.
Speaker 2: I'll take it.
Speaker 3: Your answer, your answer is Russell Wilson will always be
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: Give me Thomas Edward, Patrick Brady Junior.
Speaker 3: Your answer is Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2: Trust me. Listen.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's the question Seuerle's husband. Yes, is that a
Speaker 3: question you asking? No, I'm telling you that's the answer.
Speaker 3: Trust me, trust me. Look on, I dropped a little
Speaker 3: in piece.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, grab it right quick.
Speaker 3: Well, what's the next topic? Uh?
Speaker 1: Did you see uh Gardner Johnson? He came to the
Speaker 1: game with the ski mask on. I mean he was
Speaker 1: decked out. He had a back, he had a night
Speaker 1: little ensemble. He he just like, yeah, man, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna wear that.
Speaker 2: He like, man, hey, this thing gonna be like that.
Speaker 2: He told the.
Speaker 3: Fans that wear masks too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then when the Seahawks Beatle, now they got
Speaker 2: masks on. Listen.
Speaker 3: That's listen, that's that's that's that's that's the that's that's
Speaker 3: the la, that's the nature of the beast. But again,
Speaker 3: but listen, this is what I like though. What This
Speaker 3: is a different Lions team.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, for sure. This is a.
Speaker 3: Different Lions team offensively and defensive. This is a different
Speaker 3: Lions team that I have every year, every year, the
Speaker 3: same it's always the same teams and contention. And every
Speaker 3: year there's always one team that comes out the blue
Speaker 3: and has a phenomenal season and surprises everybody and makes
Speaker 3: the playoff runt and guess who and guess who that's
Speaker 3: gonna be this year.
Speaker 2: You like the Lions.
Speaker 3: I like the Lions. I like the Lions. I don't
Speaker 3: know what the hell Dan Campbell feeding them boys over.
Speaker 2: There, got believe.
Speaker 3: He believing, just like Prime. He got him believing. But
Speaker 3: not only are they believing, it's showing up on the
Speaker 3: field of play when you turn on the film, when
Speaker 3: you watch the games, they competing, They compete with teams
Speaker 3: normally that they couldn't compete with. And of course people,
Speaker 3: of course people be like, well, so and so didn't play.
Speaker 3: That's a part of the game. Injuries is part of
Speaker 3: the game. Sometimes you're gonna play somebody and they won't
Speaker 3: have a certain player plan. You still got to go
Speaker 3: out there, next man up, next man up. I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: the Lions got something special going over there, and I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is, But I like C. J.
Speaker 3: Gardner man. He leading that defense man with a certain
Speaker 3: type of attitude. He walked a certain way he talk
Speaker 3: a certain way, they gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: Well you petty, I mean, did you ever do did you?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you're in the same division as Ray.
Speaker 1: Ray had the coldest intro in the history of the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thing about when you scored a touchdown on the Ravens
Speaker 1: doing his dance?
Speaker 3: Nah, no, no, because when they made they made fun
Speaker 3: of me. I think they made for me, and they
Speaker 3: were still some of the stuff I did, But I
Speaker 3: never I never mind. I never mocked any of them.
Speaker 3: I know it's funny, is entertaining and fun. As I was,
Speaker 3: I was very respectful to my opponents, very respectful, even
Speaker 3: though I.
Speaker 2: Talked trash you thought, sending them peptal. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But see, the stuff I did wasn't malicious. It was
Speaker 3: more of an intent to It's time to compete because
Speaker 3: here I come. But I'm gonna do it in a
Speaker 3: fun way.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Intent only matters to you because the difference between manslaughter
Speaker 1: and murder is intent.
Speaker 3: One is malice, one is accidental. The victim is still dead.
Speaker 1: So whether you intended to be a.
Speaker 2: Thought jolio, he's still just as offended. Right.
Speaker 3: Well, that that ain't I ain't had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with me, because when it was time to line up,
Speaker 3: you already knew it was coming. You was finna get
Speaker 3: that work. You get that, And it's a reason it's
Speaker 3: you know, it's a reason games are played on Sunday. Huh. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: So I could bless you. You're oh, listen, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: you know what I would to know?
Speaker 2: I want to know.
Speaker 1: Can you tell the people at home what you were
Speaker 1: thinking when you try to crack back on ray?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: You try to sneaky, Hey, I try to sneaky. But
Speaker 3: this is the funny part about it. A lot of
Speaker 3: people don't. If you if you look at the film right,
Speaker 3: And this is what people fail to realize. You know,
Speaker 3: let me talk, let me listen to me. Now, I
Speaker 3: lie for you before I lie to you. Baby, you
Speaker 3: know that lie. But go ahead, if you if you
Speaker 3: look at the film right, if you look at the
Speaker 3: film and replay it again as I'm going, you'll notice
Speaker 3: my shoe string on my left shoe is untied. So
Speaker 3: when I'm getting ready to go into ray. You understand physics,
Speaker 3: common sense physics. You learn this when you're in elementary
Speaker 3: low Man wins. It's about having leverage, right, I ain't
Speaker 3: had a leverage because my trajectory was thrown off because
Speaker 3: as all Finna hit Ray boom, I stepped on my
Speaker 3: shoe string and it caused me to raise up a
Speaker 3: little bit. And so when I raised up and Ray
Speaker 3: went through me, I had no leverage to go through him.
Speaker 3: That's why I fell back. That's that's all.
Speaker 2: Step on his shoe string, you fall down. So I
Speaker 2: ain't never seen nothing.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, listen, I'm going forward right and you
Speaker 3: know you got to go through him. Yeah, So I
Speaker 3: stepped on a shoe string on contact, so it's easy
Speaker 3: for me to go up that way. That's what I'm
Speaker 3: trying to say.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think coming this way, going that way.
Speaker 3: It it ain't about that. It's about this right here.
Speaker 3: It's about this right here there. A lot of people
Speaker 3: ain't got this. Oh you can't see my heart. You
Speaker 3: see my heart. It's about that that that in there. Listen.
Speaker 3: I played rap for a decade straight, a decade straight,
Speaker 3: and every time I seen him, I tried to knock
Speaker 3: his head off. Ask me how many times? I asked
Speaker 3: me how many times I won?
Speaker 2: None?
Speaker 3: No, don't care. I ain't care. I didn't care. I
Speaker 3: give you coming back type of person every every day,
Speaker 3: every day, every day. If I if I seem right now,
Speaker 3: I'm a running to him again. We ain't got no pass.
Speaker 3: Run into him every day. I love Ray Man. This
Speaker 3: is you know, you know a funny story. A lot
Speaker 3: of people don't know that. A lot of you don't
Speaker 3: know man. Ray and I this is a funny thing. Man.
Speaker 3: For ten years straight, before every game, Ray and I
Speaker 3: read a scripture every every game, even if I was
Speaker 3: playing away. I'll never forget. At ten o'clock we always
Speaker 3: get that Bible. He'll he'll get that scription. We'll read
Speaker 3: it together before I go out there and play. And
Speaker 3: the damn is thing, even the games when we would play,
Speaker 3: the fact that you would sit there and read a
Speaker 3: scripture with me and talk to me about the man
Speaker 3: upstairs and then permit to try to hurt me on
Speaker 3: that field whenever blow. It's mind boggling how the switch
Speaker 3: just goes completely off and it's about football. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: my dude, Man, that's I love him to death. Man,
Speaker 3: good good memories, good stories.
Speaker 2: I'm uh, whoa, wha, wha, what what?
Speaker 3: What? What are we going we're going. I'm not finished,
Speaker 3: because I ain't.
Speaker 1: We we're back tomorrow. No, we gotta double headed tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We do what you want to talk about, what you
Speaker 1: want to talk about. We talked about whatever you want.
Speaker 3: You want, you want to save it, No, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I just I just wanted this. This would be It
Speaker 3: would be like the extended version for the people at home.
Speaker 3: Now be talked about. We we all football. Now, we
Speaker 3: talk about life.
Speaker 2: We we just we talked about like.
Speaker 3: I talked about you a long time ago. You said
Speaker 3: you didn't have no partner, you you were single. So
Speaker 3: I found somebody for you. That's what I wanted you
Speaker 3: to know. I found somebody for you.
Speaker 2: Man, I look desperate. No I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you desperate, but you look it.
Speaker 2: I'm thirsty.
Speaker 3: Why ain't saying you're thirsty, But I'm trying to make
Speaker 3: sure you quenched.
Speaker 2: Nah, Noah, noah.
Speaker 1: If you if you got, if you got anything to
Speaker 1: do with it, I don't want no parts of it
Speaker 1: because I already know, I already know you off.
Speaker 3: Some bull dyy No no that listen, listen, you know listen,
Speaker 3: I'm listen. I want I want you happy and smiling
Speaker 3: like me. You see I'm smiling. Look, I'm happy. I
Speaker 3: know you you think you happy?
Speaker 2: You think?
Speaker 3: Listen, God said, when a man findeth a wife, he
Speaker 3: findeth a good thing.
Speaker 2: You got a.
Speaker 3: Girlfriend, a wife.
Speaker 2: He's a headaches not see.
Speaker 3: That's that's the problem.
Speaker 2: You fight you. No, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3: I already give your number. I already gave you a number.
Speaker 2: What your number? What did I tell you? What did
Speaker 2: I tell you?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: If you date in private, you can break up in private.
Speaker 1: But if you date publicly, you have to break up publicly.
Speaker 3: If you got the hidder, no, no, if you got
Speaker 3: the hidder, you ain't not going to get behind her.
Speaker 2: No, don't do that.
Speaker 3: I need if you got the hidder, don't try to
Speaker 3: get behind her. Don't do that. I need I need
Speaker 3: you to love her out loud, brother, I need you
Speaker 3: to professional relations See how this relationship between her and I? Right? Yes,
Speaker 3: you know, between you and her and that man upstairs?
Speaker 1: Yes, seven, even if I even if y'all don't see
Speaker 1: he sees Okay, he's omnipotent.
Speaker 3: I want you in a position like our men. I
Speaker 3: got I got one problem. You know, I found a
Speaker 3: good I found a good one.
Speaker 2: But I'm having a small issue. What's the issue she
Speaker 2: talked about?
Speaker 3: We get married next year, right right, that's what you
Speaker 3: told me. Stay with me, Stay with me, though had
Speaker 3: the nerve to bring me papers to sign the prenup.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you listen. I'm trying. I see what women.
Speaker 3: I see that feeling women have because this woman has
Speaker 3: provided me with the ability to be a stead at
Speaker 3: home dad. I ain't got to do nothing but take
Speaker 3: care of the kids, play video games all day. I
Speaker 3: ain't got to go to work. You know that. You
Speaker 3: know what that feel like, you know, to have somebody.
Speaker 3: The roles are reversed nine. So now I see how
Speaker 3: women be feeling when they be like going crazy over you.
Speaker 3: They got when the dudes got money. Oh I get old, booby,
Speaker 3: I get it. Now you get the chilling. You ain't
Speaker 3: got to do it?
Speaker 1: Oh yo' I'm a guy, and that's what I tell
Speaker 1: my my friends and even guys that don't have money.
Speaker 2: Yes, I say, sign, They say, well, Sean, why should
Speaker 2: I sign a prenup?
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing, I say, because therefore, when you leave,
Speaker 1: you take all of your nothing and not half of it.
Speaker 1: You see, because see what happens in divorce, they take
Speaker 1: half the money and all the huha. That's not a
Speaker 1: fair trade off to me.
Speaker 2: Oyo.
Speaker 3: See you hear what you're just saying. That's why I
Speaker 3: ain't signing nothing, because you like this lifestyle that she
Speaker 3: has provided me. You know how women are women to
Speaker 3: fickleed with women to file one day, one day, one day,
Speaker 3: she gonna love me, she love let me take Let
Speaker 3: me what happened, what happened with what happened?
Speaker 1: Maybe wake up one day and be like, ojo whatever whatever. Listen,
Speaker 1: if I had a guy, if I had to married
Speaker 1: my college if if everything had gone according to plan,
Speaker 1: I married my college sweetheart. Let's just say, for the
Speaker 1: sake of argument, I'm worth nine figures.
Speaker 2: Did you did we? Did I lose you? Ojo? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh you're back nine?
Speaker 2: Yes I was. I was saying.
Speaker 1: I was saying that if, if, if I was worked,
Speaker 1: if I worth nine figures and she was with me
Speaker 1: in college and I get to that number, maybe you
Speaker 1: take half.
Speaker 3: I appreciate everything. I'm good, but I'm not finna. I'm
Speaker 3: not finna.
Speaker 1: Let you come in and I'm on standing on top
Speaker 1: of the mountain, and you ain't help get me there,
Speaker 1: and you think you're finna get half.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's not gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. That's
Speaker 2: not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it. Whatever.
Speaker 3: Whatever we said in the prenup. That's why we had
Speaker 3: a contract. You know, back in the day.
Speaker 2: You know what the contract was, ojo.
Speaker 1: It was a meeting of the minds. Right, I can't Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm give you my calf.
Speaker 1: You give me some of your your grain, or you
Speaker 1: give me some of your your your produce. But somehow
Speaker 1: along the way somebody started backing out, and so now
Speaker 1: we had to get one of these. We had to
Speaker 1: get that thing on paper because there was no longer
Speaker 1: a meeting of the minds. Right, So now I ain't
Speaker 1: got no problem. I'm I'm a very generous person.
Speaker 2: To a fault.
Speaker 3: You can tell my mom, my sister, my kids. They
Speaker 3: you know I help my kids.
Speaker 2: I don't do all for them.
Speaker 1: Now, I say, y'all at an age, I paid for
Speaker 1: you to go get educated, and you can do for yourself.
Speaker 2: But as long as you're doing for yourself, if you need.
Speaker 3: Dad, I'm here.
Speaker 2: I'm not your first choice. I'm your last option because I.
Speaker 1: Sent you to school and I gave you great tools
Speaker 1: to try to figure it out for yourself before you Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you go under unless you're doing
Speaker 1: some bullge.
Speaker 2: Eye now, if you can do BULLGEI.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but nah, noah, I'm good on yo, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm good. You know I got a guy. But eye
Speaker 2: old Collbee Snake like.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, you ain't we gonna do that.
Speaker 3: We ain't gonna do that. Listen, you done had listen listen, Snake,
Speaker 3: you would have had you done, had the eye on
Speaker 3: many for many of year's. You done had your eye
Speaker 3: on many for many of years, but it hadn't panned out.
Speaker 3: You need listen, listen, listen. I need you next year.
Speaker 3: I need a plus one. I need I need you
Speaker 3: to stay with this plus one. Listen to me now,
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna stay you wrong when you get married,
Speaker 3: Listen when I next I'm trying to I'm trying to
Speaker 3: get out of sign this prenupt man, because if she leave,
Speaker 3: I need half. I want I want I want the
Speaker 3: same lifestyle.
Speaker 2: Man, you got bread. Don't do that on you. I
Speaker 2: ain't spending that.
Speaker 3: I don't spending it though.
Speaker 2: Who side? Who side you on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: I'm on, I'm on the look.
Speaker 3: I just for me.
Speaker 2: I don't know even like I said, what never we
Speaker 2: agree to.
Speaker 1: If I say I'm gonna give you, if I will
Speaker 1: give you fifteen million and the pre en up, take
Speaker 1: your fifteen and go.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: If I say I'm gonna give you five dollars, take
Speaker 1: your five dollars and go will I'm gonna be fair.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fair because I think your time and
Speaker 1: and and having it. Because I'm not an easy person.
Speaker 1: I'll be the first two minutes. I'm not an easy
Speaker 1: person to live with or to be.
Speaker 3: That's the that's the problem right there. It all starts
Speaker 3: with you. It all starts with you. So you talking
Speaker 3: about what you got your eye on. But we need
Speaker 3: to work on you.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what.
Speaker 3: Let's work on you. I owe you. That's why.
Speaker 1: That's Look, I'm trying I'm right now, right right now,
Speaker 1: right now, right now. This empire is that I'm trying
Speaker 1: to I'm trying to assemble.
Speaker 3: Okay, we that's what we we what we I'm trying
Speaker 3: to assemble with you. You know, I'm trying to assemble
Speaker 3: the empire. I'm trying to build legos.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, we're gonna do this thing together. And that's
Speaker 1: what I told you from day one when we sat
Speaker 1: down to have the conversation.
Speaker 3: That's up. We're gonna get it done.
Speaker 2: But I need that.
Speaker 3: I need that plus one though. Yeah next year, next
Speaker 3: year in the in the in the Bahamas, and yeah
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. Her name the play, her name Matilda, So
Speaker 3: she probably gonna text you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Bad look here bad. Yeah, Hey, y'all, O your player.
Speaker 2: He ain't serious ship.
Speaker 3: I told you now, I lie for you before I
Speaker 3: lie to you, don't.
Speaker 1: Hey, ladies and gentlemen. Sometimes he said he'll he'll lie
Speaker 1: for me. He wouldn't lie to till me, but sometimes
Speaker 1: he'd just be lying. He's a chad Ocho Seco Johnson,
Speaker 1: Shadow Sharp. Thank you for tuning in to another episode
Speaker 1: of a Nightcap with U and o Jo. We'll see
Speaker 1: you tomorrow after the doubleheader. Good night, ladies and gentlemen.