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Speaker 1: to Thursday's edition of Big So I was sitting here,

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Speaker 1: telephone number hashtag Giants Chats. So we'll get into the

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Speaker 1: nuts and bolts of today's game. We'll give you the

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Speaker 1: As you could tell, it is certainly beautiful outside of

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Speaker 1: in the sky. Right. What planet do you live? Well?

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Speaker 1: I was being sarcastic there, but that apparently went over

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Speaker 1: your head. You guys, remember Superman, there was the alter

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Speaker 1: exactly That's what I was aiming at. But all it's

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Speaker 1: going to be ideal conditions. Today it's a mess. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I know, and and I'm one of the

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Speaker 1: So when Phil was on w f AN earlier today

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Speaker 1: have fumbled an NFL high thirteen times this year. Seven

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Speaker 1: different Eagles have put the ball on the ground in

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Speaker 1: the first month of the season. Now, in addition to that,

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Speaker 1: holding onto the ball, the last thing that they want

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Speaker 1: good news for the Philadelphia Eagles. Well, they've got a

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that I noticed, speaking of mobility

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Speaker 1: to me, is much more of a right to the

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Speaker 1: they've fumbled at the thirteen times. So it's incumbent upon

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Speaker 1: but keep in mind, Paul, we're talking about the last

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Speaker 1: It was Wally Henry in the ninety one playoffs, the

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Speaker 1: has been a whack rivalry. I think that's fair to say.

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Speaker 1: Considering each of the last five matchups between these teams,

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Speaker 1: the most part, the Eagles more so than the Giants, Paul,

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Speaker 1: every single one of their games has been close this season.

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Speaker 1: They have not won comfortably, they have not lost with

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Speaker 1: So if you think the Giant defense has been middle

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Speaker 1: And we told you that once. It has been sacked

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Speaker 1: They've got Philadelphia at home tonight, then they go to Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and then they got the Washington Redskins back your Bet

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Speaker 1: Live Stadium. I could not think of a better time

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Speaker 1: for the Giants to go on a three game winning

432
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Speaker 1: streak because they could go into the buy at four

433
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Speaker 1: and four should they be able to pull off a

434
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Speaker 1: three game winning streak, and I think the entire narrative

435
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: would be a thousand times different than what it is today. Well,

436
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Speaker 1: I agree with you. The opportunities ahead of them next

437
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Speaker 1: three games, you have two in the division. You've got

438
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Speaker 1: a team in Atlanta that has been decimated by injuries.

439
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: You've got a number of teams ahead of you that

440
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Speaker 1: have been banged up. But you gotta find the way

441
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Speaker 1: to close out games, and that has certainly been an

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Speaker 1: issue for the Giants. You want to remind you Big

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444
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Speaker 1: He's pulled the teeno on Lance Meadow. Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for tuning into Thursdays that they should a big blue

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Speaker 1: Kioff live again, you said for Thursday Night football. The

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Speaker 1: Giants and the Eagles two zero five one three hashtag

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Speaker 1: Giants chat on Twitter. Joe is in Pennsylvania. He gets

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Speaker 1: us going, what's happened to Joe? Oh man, I'm ready

451
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Speaker 1: for tonight and this this game here, it's just it's

452
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Speaker 1: always crazy. That's going back to the history of this

453
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Speaker 1: this game here seven the dirtiest hits always were bit

454
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Speaker 1: from the Eagles, going back on Gift for uh, what's

455
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Speaker 1: his name? The linebacker Chuck, Yeah, the line backer on Gifford,

456
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Speaker 1: then the other linebacker he hit Eli I forget here

457
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Speaker 1: in the early two thousand's. And he also hit Jeff

458
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Speaker 1: Eagles on a dirty play. Uh, Jeremiah trot Yes, trot Or,

459
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Speaker 1: it was I kill your or getting smacked by Dawkins

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Speaker 1: on a dirty play. I can go on. And the

461
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Speaker 1: then some of the craziest plays you know, starting like

462
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Speaker 1: the Miracle the Meadowlands and uh, Sean Jackson punts being

463
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Speaker 1: ran back, and you can go on and on and

464
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Speaker 1: on to I think the hit you're talking about against

465
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Speaker 1: Eli a doubt at the vet, was by Jerome McDougall,

466
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Speaker 1: who was a defensive lineman. It was one of the

467
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Speaker 1: hardest hits that Eli Manning has ever sustained in his

468
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Speaker 1: fifteen years in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying

469
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Speaker 1: the craziest things happen. I'm gonna give you a stat

470
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Speaker 1: but from two thousand and three, if the Giants win

471
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Speaker 1: the first game against the Eagles, they make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: If they don't, they lose. Uh So, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: that it's in the cards and I just hope things

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Speaker 1: can go our way. We can control the line of scrimmage.

475
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Speaker 1: Ball security, you know, is going to be a big thing,

476
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Speaker 1: and tackling, you know what I mean, Their tight end

477
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: is gonna get their catches in that. But we've got

478
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Speaker 1: a problem from making big yards of course. Well, he's

479
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Speaker 1: the heart and soul of the Eagles offense. There's no

480
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Speaker 1: if anything. If he catches the ball, we gotta tackle him,

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Speaker 1: you know. So I just hope we can win it,

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Speaker 1: and thank you. Crazy things happen. But if I think

483
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Speaker 1: if we could win tonight, we'd have a chance to

484
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Speaker 1: breaking our jeeks and the rest. Don't give us anymore

485
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Speaker 1: cor gi calls, and we have a chance to turn

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Speaker 1: it around. Don't don't count on that job, because it's

487
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Speaker 1: been that way around the whole league all season long.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's been a lot of very fuzzy calls

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Speaker 1: or non calls throughout the course of the first month.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know that that's gonna change.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are human and they're not going

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Speaker 1: to clean up their act just like that. Um. You know, Look,

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Speaker 1: bottom line is, as I said earlier, you got mediocre

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Speaker 1: teams and they're competing against each other, and it's the

495
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Speaker 1: difference of a bounce. It's the difference of a call

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Speaker 1: or a non call, well, for that matter, just the

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Speaker 1: foolish mistake of a play that's going to determine whether

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Speaker 1: or not you win or you lose. You know, these

499
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Speaker 1: are not the Bill Parcels Giants who were so good

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Speaker 1: that they could overcome all of those things and still

501
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Speaker 1: win ten games because they were that good. Okay, that's

502
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Speaker 1: not the case. This is a Giants team that is

503
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Speaker 1: in the middle of that quicksand they're they're like a

504
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Speaker 1: bunch of fifteen or sixteen other mediocre teams in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and those types of breaks will sink their ship every time.

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Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. Well, the Giants have

507
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Speaker 1: to play as close to a perfect game as humanly possible,

508
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Speaker 1: to your point, because when they can't overcome those issues,

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Speaker 1: Even if you do play the perfect game, we've seen

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Speaker 1: other factors inhibit your chances to win well. That certainly

511
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Speaker 1: goes without saying, but I don't think you think the

512
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Speaker 1: Giants have had a close to perfect game so far

513
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Speaker 1: this season. They played really well against Houston and but

514
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Speaker 1: even when actually they played pretty darn well against Carolina

515
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Speaker 1: yet last week too. They really special teams can't be overlooked.

516
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Speaker 1: Pauls can be special. Special teams were they made the

517
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Speaker 1: big down. They made Carolina field, no question, ten points

518
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Speaker 1: swing right there. Offensively and defensively they were they were

519
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Speaker 1: pretty strong. Offensively, they turned things around, but defensively between

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Speaker 1: the mistackles and the special teams mishaps. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: to me what scales that performance back. I agree with

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Speaker 1: you on the Texans and what I was going to

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Speaker 1: bring up related just just don't just don't forget the

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Speaker 1: bad calls that allowed the Panthers to sustain the number

525
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Speaker 1: of those drives. Don't forget that you can't. That's reality.

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Speaker 1: Well there's no doubt about that. But once again, good

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Speaker 1: teams find a way to overcome that. But they're not

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Speaker 1: one of the best things. And that's why I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: you've got to get that perfect performance where you do

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Speaker 1: not have those mistakes. That that's why I got the

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Speaker 1: Texans game, the reason why it's important to bring in

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Speaker 1: the Texans game. The Giants, by the way, Paul, have

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Speaker 1: won the turnover differential one time this season, and it's

534
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: no coincidence that that occurred in their one victory this season. Yeah,

535
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Speaker 1: they've lost turnover differential in every single other game. It's

536
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Speaker 1: a it's a very chelling status. Tom Coughlin used to

537
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Speaker 1: remind us every week. It dictates wins and losses, no

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Speaker 1: doubt about that. Jason is in South Jersey. Jason, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the program. What do you go for us? How

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Speaker 1: you doing? How you doing well? Jason? We'll talk you

541
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Speaker 1: about last time I I talked to you, p Dot.

542
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Speaker 1: We were talking about how mad the vet was and

543
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: we had to give bad fish to get Hernandez the combine. Well,

544
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Speaker 1: you know, you know what, I just can't I. First

545
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Speaker 1: of all, I'm thrilled that the Link was finally built

546
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: because the VET was just a miserable place not only

547
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Speaker 1: to play for the players, but a miserable place to

548
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Speaker 1: go see a game. So the Link is a gorgeous

549
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Speaker 1: facility and and it's a really cool football place to

550
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Speaker 1: to go see a game. So certainly ops to the

551
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Speaker 1: Eagles for that. As far as will Hernandez, my goodness,

552
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Speaker 1: I can't tell you how lucky the Giants are that

553
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: he fell into their lap in the second round. Nobody

554
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: expected that to happen. Oh yeah, all right, Um, I

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Speaker 1: just wanna ask you a question and leave out with

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Speaker 1: a statement real quick. Yeah, okay, Um, in this game,

557
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Speaker 1: do you think we would have to go se past

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Speaker 1: run anywhere from there to fifty fifty? What do you

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Speaker 1: think would be the best number? I wouldn't mind seeing

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Speaker 1: the ratio in terms of uh, you know, the past

561
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Speaker 1: run ratio. I'd like it to get a heck of

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Speaker 1: a lot closer to fifty fifty than than seventy. That's

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Speaker 1: not a good recipe. Look, even if he has the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. They'll tell you Carson Wentz is thrown at

565
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Speaker 1: least thirty five passes in each of his three games

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Speaker 1: that he that he has played since he's come back

567
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Speaker 1: off the injury. And that's that's not good. That's one

568
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: of the reasons why they're under five. You can be

569
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Speaker 1: a pass heavy team, you just can't well. And that

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Speaker 1: means if it's seventy thirty Jason, that means that in

571
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Speaker 1: all likelihood, the Giants are gonna be playing from behind.

572
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: Because it was forty four to fifteen passed to run

573
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Speaker 1: in the Saints game. And then if you go back

574
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Speaker 1: to the Carolina Panthers game, even though they came back

575
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: Manning and Beckham thirty seven attempted passes and actually with

576
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Speaker 1: the sackets thirty eight and they ran the ball just

577
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Speaker 1: sixteen times. I mean, those margins, those breakdowns, it's not

578
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Speaker 1: a winning recipe. Against Houston, it was, which is exactly

579
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Speaker 1: where you wanted to be because that means you're in

580
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Speaker 1: the thick of the game and you're also providing balance

581
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Speaker 1: where Eli is not gonna put the ball in harm's

582
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: way because the more quarterback throws I don't care who

583
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: it is the more likely you're gonna give the opposition

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to take the ball. And let's not forget

585
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Speaker 1: something here. Philadelphia's best edge in this game is their

586
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Speaker 1: defensive pass rush. They have the ability with their wide

587
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: nine and their eight man rotation on the defensive line

588
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: to really get after you for four quarters. If you're

589
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: gonna have Eli dropped back thirty five, thirty seven, thirty

590
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: eight one times in this game tonight, you've given that

591
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: Eagles front a lot of opportunities to wreck the game.

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00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: That's a bad idea. Okay, I don't care how good

593
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: their rush defense is. Say Kwan Barkley has to get

594
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: some room to run because he needs to be able

595
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: to gain positive yardage to keep people off of Ellis back. Now,

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00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: I agree with you one and appreciate the phone call, Jason.

597
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: I think when you take into consideration the fact that

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Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz is an aggressive defensive coordinator, Paul and how

599
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: he will love to dial up pressure, the worst thing

600
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: you can do is to make his job easier by

601
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: saying we're just gonna constantly throw the ball, and you

602
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: become predictable and then you're playing right into the ends

603
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: of the Eagles defense without question. I don't want to

604
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: do that. Ed is in Maryland, Ed, welcome aboard. What

605
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: do you got for us? Hey, this is big head,

606
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: all right? Well, when you call in big and you

607
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: gotta make sure that we notify the correct people as

608
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: big head. It's been a long time. You used to

609
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: be a regular big head. Yeah, yeah, yeah, things happen

610
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: a little differently for the last season. I felt like

611
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: I fell into the sad pool. That's what I called

612
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: when you and when you wanted six teams. Really, there's

613
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: no there's no nothing left. You know, you just go through,

614
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: go through at least. But okay, I get you, I

615
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: get your point. Go ahead. Yeah, as far as this

616
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: season goes, you know, we just want to see what

617
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: we could do. You know, if we make it to

618
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, that's great because this is a whole new system,

619
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Speaker 1: a whole set of teams, hold different teams, set of rules,

620
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: were playing throughout different ways. Now, Um, I know we

621
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Speaker 1: need to stop being so hard on Eli because he

622
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Speaker 1: gets the ball to you as long as he has time.

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Speaker 1: So that's could be the key for tonight's game, giving

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Speaker 1: him time to throw down field. And as long as

625
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Speaker 1: we have that kind of effort like we did on Sunday.

626
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Speaker 1: I would never be mad, not one time, because that's

627
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: maximum effort on everybody's part. So as long as we

628
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: do that tonight, we should win and get back to

629
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Speaker 1: our ways. It's good to hear from you, Paul. I

630
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: tell you what, Big Ed, I'd be better if guys

631
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: like you kept calling the show, because you know, the

632
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: bottom line is, uh, loyal fans are what make this

633
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: show the kind of show that it is. We love

634
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: all fans, don't get me wrong, but the loyal fans,

635
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: the guys like you, and of course Charlie from Maine.

636
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna crane here, Lands, but Charlie from Maine,

637
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: and Lynn from Maryland and Joe from Pennsylvania. All you

638
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: guys who have been with us for what is it now,

639
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: good six or seven years since we started the program.

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Speaker 1: You guys that are one who are really the heartbeat

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Speaker 1: of the show. So we we like to keep you around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember you around. Hey, I gotta get with Lynn,

643
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Speaker 1: That's what it is. Tell Lynn, I gotta get with him.

644
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: You gotta come up, big PAULI, here you go, Big

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Speaker 1: Lands and old to my brother John, well, well we'll

646
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Speaker 1: see him in a bit. Thanks big the phone call,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for Wayne and Tuesday one one three

648
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Speaker 1: hashtags chat. We can get back to your foe coast

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Speaker 1: in a second. Want to throw in some tweets, Dylan

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00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: at Dilly Willie fifteen. Since Russell Shepherd is out tonight

651
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: with that neck injury, does Cody Lattimer or Jewel Davis

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Speaker 1: take more snaps? He's asking from a wide receiver standpoint. Well,

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Speaker 1: the good news is with Latimer back and Shepherd replaced Latimer,

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Speaker 1: I would assume Cody is going to take his normal

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Speaker 1: reps unless he's still banged up with the knee injury. Davis,

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00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: we saw get his first. I thought it was a knee.

657
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Speaker 1: Was knee? I thought it was the knee that might be,

658
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: might be. Well, here's the bottom line, though, Okay, they

659
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Speaker 1: they're gonna need snaps out of somebody, whether or not

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Speaker 1: it's Juel Davis or it's Latimer, they need snaps out

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Speaker 1: of somebody. Is a knee injury, it is? Uh. Sometimes

662
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: they blend together a little bit, but but a lot

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Speaker 1: of them. But they but here's the thing. Without Ingram

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Speaker 1: and possibly without Ellison, they can't afford not to have

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Speaker 1: somebody step up up in that third wide receiver spot.

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00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: They don't have a choice. I do think you will

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00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: see someone Barkley running some vertical routes tonight, which we

668
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: saw over the last few weeks. Maybe you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: enough of that, but it's something you're gonna have to see.

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Speaker 1: The trouble lads, if you do that, you're gonna be

671
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: empty backfield and my goodness, past protection those other things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, the Eagles want you to go empty. Back

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Speaker 1: to you, what do they ever? Yeah, they will say,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much, we will take our chances. Big

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Speaker 1: Blue kick off live with you here on this Thursday,

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Speaker 1: getting set for Thursday night football Giants against Eagles at

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Speaker 1: a wet MetLife Stadium. Let's head back to the phone lines.

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Speaker 1: Mike is in Jersey. Mike, what's happening? How we doing? Mike? Oh,

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Speaker 1: Mike is a man of very few words apparently today, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we could tell. Mike's very talkative. All right, Mike has

681
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Speaker 1: turned it over, keeping up with the theme of the program.

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Speaker 1: We got Chris and Jersey. Chris, what's happening? Thanks for

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Speaker 1: taking my calls making it Chris, what do you got

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Speaker 1: for us. Hey. Yeah, So one of the one of

685
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Speaker 1: the themes over the last the few games has been

686
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Speaker 1: staying out of that second and thirteen, the third and

687
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: four teams of the holding penalties. I mean, that's gonna

688
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: be so key tonight, especially with the weather. It's just

689
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: staying out of it, you know, keeping it manageable when

690
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: you get the third down, even if it's third and six,

691
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: just keeping it out of that third and ten, third

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00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: and twelve oh one. And you know, it's interesting you

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Speaker 1: brought up the third downs and trying to make them

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Speaker 1: manageable because Giants are good on third down. Well they

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Speaker 1: were until last week. They were over for seven last week.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was getting to. Nest week was a

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00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: bad week, but a very week they've been for the season.

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Speaker 1: They had been solid. They were five of ten against

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Speaker 1: the Saints, seven of thirteen against the Texans, eight of

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Speaker 1: seventeen against the Cowboys. So yes, I agree with you,

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Speaker 1: Paul there, but they took a huge step back, and

702
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Speaker 1: the reason being is what Chris just just brought up.

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Speaker 1: The reason they were over for seven. They had five

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Speaker 1: third downs out of those seven for eight yards or more,

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Speaker 1: including one that was third and seventeen and you're just

706
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: not going to convert those well. And and it's a

707
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Speaker 1: double jeopardy problem because a the more real I throws it,

708
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: the more chances the Eagles have to get after him.

709
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Obviously in must pass situations, that is the premier situation

710
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: that Philadelphia wants you in. But then on top of that,

711
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: just remember the weather is not gonna be great. Now. Eli,

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00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: over his career has actually proven to be a good

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Speaker 1: bad weather passer. There's no question about that. If you

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Speaker 1: look back at his fifteen years in the league, he's

715
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: throwing the ball very well in rainy conditions. However, who's

716
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: to say that his guys aren't going to drop him

717
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Speaker 1: when the ball gets there? Yeah, exactly. Hey, And and

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Speaker 1: the question for you guys, don't you have other calls

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Speaker 1: coming in? You know a few years ago, you know

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Speaker 1: you have third and third and fifteen, third and third

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Speaker 1: and twenty. I get it, you run the draw, just

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Speaker 1: get some just get some yards and get some room

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Speaker 1: to punt. But I'll tell you what with the amount

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Speaker 1: of flags being thrown uh today, when you have a

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: third and fifteen, third and twenty, why don't we just

726
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: heap it down the sideline, especially to a bell, because

727
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna draw the attention anyway and throw

728
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: it to the outside and and hope to get a

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00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: flag and if nothing else, that's gonna go out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand why they don't do that more,

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Speaker 1: not just the Giant, but any team for that matter,

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Speaker 1: because the amount of the amount of passive apperance and

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Speaker 1: holding flags, it's probably probably better than just running a

734
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Speaker 1: drawn nowadays, just throwing it on the outside children and

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Speaker 1: worst comes it's out of bound. You make a very

736
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Speaker 1: interesting point, and I smile because I think a lot

737
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Speaker 1: of coaches just want to play the percentages and they'll say, Okay,

738
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Speaker 1: a punt is just fine with us, and we'll just

739
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Speaker 1: live for another day, and they're more than happy to

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Speaker 1: do that. That's that's where part of the whole analytics

741
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Speaker 1: name comes in, you know. And if you can hold

742
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Speaker 1: a second here, don't don't go away. I want to

743
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: I want to just say something. The mentality of what

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00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: the Giants did last weekend, Caroline is something I had

745
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: been asking about. Take what we want instead of what

746
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: the defense will give us. Okay, did you guys notice

747
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: that I give Kim Jones came up with a stat

748
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Speaker 1: that she had gotten from I think it was either

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Speaker 1: NFL network or Yes, he ends next gen stats. Last

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Speaker 1: week's touchdown past to Odell Beckham Jr. According to the

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00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: analytics people had a chance of being completed for a touchdown.

752
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: Eli Manning threw that ball down field into double coverage, Okay,

753
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: double coverage, and Odell Beckham went up and wrestled that

754
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: ball away caught it for a touchdown. Giants have themselves

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00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: seven points. That's what happens when you take what you

756
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: want instead of taking what they give you. Let your

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00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: guys make a play. Let Eli make the throw, Let

758
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: Beckham win the race to the ball to make the catch. Look.

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00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady threw his five hundred touchdown past a week ago.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys remember that play? He had eight seconds

761
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: behind the line. Okay he could, he couldn't want to. Well,

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Speaker 1: when they taken to the account of that percentage of

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Speaker 1: what to be the to make that pass comple eat it,

764
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Speaker 1: they don't. They don't take any account of the athlete.

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00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: That's correct. Absolutely, Analytics, Yeah, analytics, Analytics doesn't know. Analytics

766
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Speaker 1: doesn't know that it's Odell Beckham against some scrub, analytics

767
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: just says it's a receiver against the defenser back. You're

768
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: absolutely right. That's why analytics should only be a tool.

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Speaker 1: They should never be the basis for what you do.

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Speaker 1: They should simply be a little bit of salt and

771
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: pepper on top of the scrambled eggs. Okay, that's what

772
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: they have to be, and nothing more than that. So

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Speaker 1: when Brady throws his five hundred career touchdown pass last

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Speaker 1: week and he's got his eight seconds to throw it, Okay, fine,

775
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: that's one point entirely, it's just disgusting how he could

776
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: watch a lunar eclipse back there, but he makes the throw.

777
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: The analytics people would tell you he was dead wrong

778
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: because he threw the ball into double coverage in the

779
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: end zone and he let Josh Gordon make a play.

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Speaker 1: But everybody was cheering, who can talk Brady? What I'm great?

781
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: Throw is five or a career touched out pass. It

782
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: was so historic, it was typical Tom Brady. Oh boy,

783
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: what a champion. Really, when every single analytics guy was

784
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: probably puking up all over himself because that goes against

785
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: everything that I don't excess, but it goes for the

786
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: guy who says I'm taking what I want and I'm

787
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: making a play. Well in both circumstances, though you had

788
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: the personnel where they were aggressive enough to go up

789
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: and get the football. When you have Odell Beckham, I

790
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit easier to take those chances,

791
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: just like when you have Josh Gordon compared to somebody else.

792
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: You have Eli, you have Barkley, you actually have the personnel.

793
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Speaker 1: I'm not disagreed making play guys. And Odell Beckham drew

794
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: a pair of defensive pass interference penalties in the Jaguars

795
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: game too when Eli tried to throw deep, So you know,

796
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Speaker 1: if you have somebody that's going to draw contact. And

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00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: going back to what you said, Paul, back when we

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Speaker 1: had Plaxico, I mean, how many times did he like

799
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Speaker 1: put it up there one on one to let Plaxico

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Speaker 1: at six ft six to make a play. He wasn't

801
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Speaker 1: the only one. Amanti Tumor caught a bunch of those two. Yeah,

802
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Speaker 1: And that's nothing wrong with that being a game plan.

803
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Speaker 1: I just think most teams, you know, it depends on

804
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Speaker 1: where you also are on the field. Chris, for example,

805
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: if you're backed up towards your own end zone. Sometimes

806
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Speaker 1: you just want to give your punter as much room

807
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Speaker 1: as humanly possible, because in the event that that passes incomplete,

808
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, your punter is pumping out

809
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: of the end zone and you're in dangerous territory. So

810
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Speaker 1: I think also where you are on the field will

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Speaker 1: dictate whether or not you should take a chance that

812
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: there's definitely a strategy. Tom Coughlin used to love to

813
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: tilt the field, and there's nothing wrong with that strategy.

814
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: But again, bottom line is all these sports have become

815
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Speaker 1: two analytics heavy and and that's a significant problem that

816
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: people have to address as they move on and appreciate

817
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Speaker 1: the phote called Chris, thanks so much, Awaye And I

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Speaker 1: didn't see that statistic, But I'm not a fan of

819
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Speaker 1: these next gent stats. I like analytics, I like statistics,

820
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Speaker 1: but I want to know how they even go about

821
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Speaker 1: determining that there's a fifteen percent rate that that is

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Speaker 1: going to be a successful To let them just fither math,

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Speaker 1: I'm willing to let I'm not going to question it.

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Speaker 1: They want to questioning. I just want to know the

825
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: rationale behind why is it they want to say that

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Speaker 1: they've got mathematical UH formulas and computations that can give

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Speaker 1: that pass a fifteen percent complete ratio. Fine, I'm willing

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Speaker 1: to accept that. I agree with you. It'd be nice

829
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Speaker 1: to know why I'll accept it. I'll assume that their

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Speaker 1: numbers correct. I don't care. I got Eli Manning, I

831
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Speaker 1: got Oldham Jr. And you got who Jim Smith? You

832
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Speaker 1: know Joe Johnson, you know Art Art Schmo playing defensive back.

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Speaker 1: My two guys are gonna make the play. Okay, some

834
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Speaker 1: defensive backs by the way, you know the Joker, the Riddler,

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Speaker 1: Mr Freeze, a little bit of everything, and you guys

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Speaker 1: in the secondary opportunities. My guys are making the play.

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Speaker 1: And the ego secondary has had issues. So I'm expecting

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Speaker 1: the Giants to test this Philadelphia secondary, especially Jalen Mills

839
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Speaker 1: is at his ups and ounds, Ronald Darby. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: go after the Eagle secondary. The question is whether or

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00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: not the Giants are gonna be able to make those plays.

842
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: And when they make those plays, I think they could

843
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: score with anybody in this league. Well, the prop that

844
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: week they need to slow down that Eagles pass rush

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Speaker 1: so that their guys can make those plays and have

846
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get down field and put a double

847
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,439
Speaker 1: move on a guy, put a slogo route on a guy. Well,

848
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: put a comeback or back shoulder throw on a guy.

849
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: You gotta give Eli another second or second and a

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00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: half to let him make the throw. And the best

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Speaker 1: way to do that, if you don't have the stellar

852
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: old line that you need is to make sure you

853
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: get the run game going so we can use play action. Yeah,

854
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: that's the key. However, most teams have found it quite

855
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: difficult to run the football on the Eagles. As we

856
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: talked about earlier in the program. Let's head back to

857
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: the lines. Mike is in South Jersey. Mike, what's happening? Alright?

858
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? I was wondering on

859
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: North Reynoldson and everyth ingram being out, and also um

860
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: Latimer and Shepherd. Who are you gonna pall? Latimer is

861
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: in the game. Latimer is not on the reivers. Lattimer

862
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: is not on the injury report. He'll play today. I

863
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: thought listen to as questionable. Well, he know he's he's

864
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: on the injury report. Is not on the injury report,

865
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be in the and Jowell Davis is

866
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: up as correct. Russell Shepard and Evan Ingram, those are

867
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: the only two that have been ruled out. So your

868
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: question is with with Het Ellison questionable and Evan Ingram out,

869
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: that's where you're getting at. Yeah, we need kind of

870
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: a big, big body wide receiver, and normally that would

871
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: be Ellison or Ingram because there we don't really have

872
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: any huge, towering wide receivers. So I will say that

873
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: Simonson and Dickerson, the third and fourth string tight ends

874
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: on the roster, are more receiving tight ends than they

875
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: are blockers. So it's entirely possible. You may see, for example,

876
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: Simonson quote past a couple of weeks ago against the Saints.

877
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: You you might see him in there. May make him

878
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: a catcher two. I mean, look, the bottom line is

879
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: the Giants need to find a way to move the ball,

880
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: no matter who is on the other I don't think

881
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: you need to focus on Mike that they need a

882
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: big body. They just need guys to go out there

883
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: and make plays. Sterling Shepard is more than cable and

884
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: making plays, even though he's not necessarily the biggest guy

885
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: in the same thing with Oldell Beckham. I mean to me,

886
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: it's irrelevant whether or not you've got a guy that's

887
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: six three or you got a guy that's six foot.

888
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it really makes a big difference, especially

889
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: when we're talking about the Eagles personnel. All right, thank you, Yeah,

890
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: all right. I appreciate the phone call. Let's have back

891
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: to the lines. Joey King and East Rutherford. Joey King,

892
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: what's happening? It's Joey Keyes like, great show, guys. How

893
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: are you to talk to your phone call? Joey? What

894
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: do you got for us? Awesome? Awesome? Um, you know,

895
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: I sense a lot of fireness and in Paul's voice today,

896
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: and you know this is a big game. My question

897
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: is in regards to Olivia Vernon, how much of a

898
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: game do you think he's gonna have today? Number one?

899
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: And also the line, the Eagles line is going to

900
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: try a lot of stunts. I think out of all

901
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: the teams that we face, they know what's the best

902
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: and what are your percentages of us? Let me today

903
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: each each doesn't like to him? Thanks all right, Joey

904
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call. Well, which part of that question

905
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: you want to take time? I mean, we could both

906
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: take both parts of it. I don't think, well, why

907
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: don't we go with Olivier Vernon, because that was more

908
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: of a strategic question that we could go with the

909
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: predictions and so forth, or the percentages as he asked.

910
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: I think Vernon, I think you got to keep your

911
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: expectations in check. That doesn't mean that I don't think

912
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon has an opportunity to make a big impact

913
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: on this game. But you know, sometimes when guys are

914
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: in a game for the first time, and I'm not

915
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: questioning his health. I think he's a hundred percent. I

916
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: think he's got fresh legs, but that doesn't mean that

917
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: they roll right out of the gates, Paul and just

918
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: like that, they're coming in and they get in two

919
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: to three sacks. I think he has the capability to

920
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: be a disruptive force in this game, but I would

921
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: be very surprised if he's single handedly carries this entire

922
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: defense on his shoulders tonight, because I think Wentz is

923
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of the football quickly, and I think

924
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: they're going to try to schematically get around knowing that

925
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: Vernon he's the freshest guy on the field tonight, Let's

926
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: not misinterpret that he has not played one game. You've

927
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: got everybody else playing on Sunday and trying to turn

928
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: things around on Thursday. If you're Doug Peterson, you are

929
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: not gonna do everything in your power to give Olivier

930
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: Vernon an opportunity to make plays. I think that you

931
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: know he's certainly is gonna be active. The Giant's gonna

932
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: move him around. They're gonna try to get him in

933
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: opportune moments to get after the quarterback. But I'd be

934
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: very surprised once again if he comes storming out of

935
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: the gates and has a monster game in terms of

936
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: statistics I'm talking about. See. I think Olivia Vernon can

937
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: have a dramatic impact on this game even if he

938
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have monster stats because the kind of of havoc

939
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: he can cause in a one on one matchup, and

940
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I believe Betcha is gonna do everything he possibly can

941
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: to get him isolated. Can cause penalties. And guess what

942
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: the Eagles this year, Oh, they've been pretty bad. I

943
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: think they have forty three penalties. Right. They have had

944
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: a minimum of eight penalties in four of their first

945
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: five games this season. Jason Peters already has five at

946
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: left tack goal, including three false starts, a lot of

947
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: procedural penalties. That's why they've been involved in a lot

948
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: of second and third and lungs, which has hurt their offense. Okay,

949
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: so I bring that up because even if Vernon doesn't

950
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: have a couple of sacks, let's say he himself causes

951
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: three critical penalties in key spots that sends the Eagles backwards.

952
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't have to be a sack for

953
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: him to make an impact on the game. And if

954
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 1: he forces Peters to jump on a third and two,

955
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: that suddenly becomes a third and seven and now the

956
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: Eagles wind up not converting and punch and football, well,

957
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: then Vernon had an impact on the game. And I

958
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: think that's that's as much of of a of a

959
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: way of him to do things today without necessarily coming

960
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 1: through with big numbers. Forty three penalties for the Eagles

961
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: tied for the third most in the National Football League. Obviously,

962
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: that takes again consideration defense and special teams issues. I

963
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: would argue though, even if Vernon didn't play in this game,

964
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are always prone to those procedural issues.

965
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: So I mean Connor Barwin Karee Martin could force those mishaps. Yeah, Barwin'

966
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: is a wily veteran. He could do that, right. What

967
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: was with the Eagles personnel? Well, the other part of

968
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: the question was our percentage of what we think the

969
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: Giants something that didn't he know. He asked about Olivier

970
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: version and how much of a percentage do we put

971
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: on the Giants in terms of winning this game. I

972
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: like the Giants to win this game. I do give

973
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: them a small edge. I think the game being at

974
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: home is a really important deal, and I think the

975
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: Eagles are still trying to find themselves and I think

976
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: the Giants started to find themselves last week. I put

977
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: it more fifty fifty because I really think it's a

978
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: true toss up considering both teams have question marks. And

979
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, Paul, because there's a

980
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: lot of talk and the players talked about it all

981
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: throughout the course of this short week that this was

982
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: the coming out party for the offense against Caroline and

983
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: now they simply are going to just build off of that.

984
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: And you know, we talk about this every single week.

985
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: It's a week to week league. I think we've got

986
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: it once again, keep expectations in check again that just

987
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: because you do something that's Carolina's defense doesn't mean it's

988
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: going to necessarily work against any other defense you've seen,

989
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: and we saw that. Why do you think the Giants

990
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: offensive production is fluctuated? Because the way that New Orleans

991
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: and Dallas played the Giants Paul was much different than

992
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: the way the Panthers played. Right. You know, most teams

993
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: were having the two safeties and they were like, hey,

994
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: we're keeping everybody in front of us. Carolina went about

995
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: things completely different than the Saints of the Cowboys and

996
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: the Eagles are not going to just adopt Philadelphia's defense

997
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: or not going to adopt the Panthers defense. I gotta

998
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: strike you down here, That's fine. I gotta strike you

999
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: down because last year, during the most miserable season in

1000
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: Giants franchise history, Eli Manning carved up this year. But

1001
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: he's done that through like a Thanksgiving. He's had good

1002
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: numbers his entire career. So so I have I have

1003
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: a little doubt, maybe just a little, but I think

1004
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: the Giants offensively, we'll do what's necessary to put a

1005
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: winning performance on the field. My question as to why

1006
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: I think or where I think they could lose this

1007
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: game is either on special teams, because I think the

1008
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: Eagles have a huge advantage on special teams over the

1009
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: Giants in this one, but I think the Giants have

1010
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: an advantage on offense. Okay, And on the other side, defensively,

1011
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: Giants have had too many miss tackles, and I am concerned,

1012
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: especially on wet turf miss tackles in a in a

1013
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: big spot against against one of these guys, especially if

1014
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: it's it's a third down conversion. Although the Giants have

1015
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: been pretty good on third down conversions, in fact their

1016
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: fourth best defense in the NFL in holding teams on

1017
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: third down. But the miss tackles haven't been very good

1018
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: and a guy like zach Ertz will make you pay

1019
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: for them. I agree with you. Zach Ertz to me

1020
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: is the biggest concerned for the Giants, and then I

1021
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: would say if you're the Eagles, I know it's easy

1022
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: to say, Oh, Tell Beckham is the biggest concerned Paul.

1023
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: I Actually I like Sterling Shepherd's matchup better than anybody

1024
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: else on the Giants today. I think Shepherd could have

1025
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: a huge game because the middle of the field and

1026
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: where he's gonna line up, I think could put him

1027
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: in some favorable positions. So to me, if you would

1028
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: ask me who has to have a big game, Shepherd

1029
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: versus accurates could very well dictate who walks away with

1030
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: this victim. You know what's interesting for me to me

1031
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: if we talked about O'Dell Beckham Jr. All the time.

1032
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: He is a terrific route runner and a tremendous athlete,

1033
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: and yes, he gets a lot of attention. And the

1034
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: caller earlier said, why not just throw a deep ball

1035
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: to him and draw a penalty flag. Well, as we

1036
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: know that doesn't always happen in etcetera, etcetera. But to me,

1037
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: the guy who gets held and interfered with the most

1038
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: is Sterling Shepherd. He gets constantly, constantly beaten up by

1039
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: defensive players. And I say that with holding and past

1040
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: interference and face masks, he's constantly getting infracted upon. If

1041
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: that's a word or phrase, I don't know what it is,

1042
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: but he is constantly getting infracted upon more than any

1043
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: other Giants offensive player. They do. They commit more penalties

1044
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: against Shepherd and ones that are not called then ones

1045
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: that actually go against Odell Beckham Jr. I think, well,

1046
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: that's why, like I said, I never happened in Phildelphia

1047
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Remember that game in Philadelphia, Well,

1048
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: that was the game I was referencing earlier I talked

1049
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: about last year, or at the at the end of

1050
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: the game last year, the fourth down play on the

1051
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: left sideline, he was clearly interfered with the the the

1052
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: guy got there a second and a half, two yards

1053
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: before the ball ever got there, an obvious pass interference.

1054
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: Called nothing nothing, well, and Shepherd to him all the time.

1055
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: Shepherd Now that he's healthy this year. I mean it's quietly,

1056
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: and I say it because you know, all the attention

1057
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: tends to go to everybody else on this team. He's

1058
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: quietly putting up some really good numbers. I mean he's

1059
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: at a nice stretcher. Even against Caroline, if you remember

1060
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Tall on the same drive he had a twenty six

1061
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: yard catch and so you know, those are the big

1062
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: plays that I've noticed. I think Shepherd is in line

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00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: for a pretty big game today. But once again, if

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00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: he does that, then what did the Giants do to

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00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: contain zach Ertz? Because zach Ertz has been a headache

1066
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: for the Giants, just like Jason Witten has been a headache.

1067
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: I would probably put zach Ertz right behind Jason Witten

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00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: in terms of tight ends that have given the Giants

1069
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: tremendous trouble over the time that Jason Witten due to

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00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: go away and then finally went away. But zach Ertz

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00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: is and that as somebody else here to just slip

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00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: into those shoes and give the Giants a horrible, horrible

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00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: pimple on their butt. Well, I'm so glad that you

1074
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: gave us that visualization. But zach Ertz, he's a wide receiver.

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00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz is by far the best receiver on the

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00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: Eagles as it stands right now. They just got out

1077
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: Sean Jeffrey back. They resigned Jordan Matthews, who's with the

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00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: team a few years ago. We mentioned they're banged up

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00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: in running back. Let's face it, zach Ertz is the

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00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: guy to focus on it. Carson Wentz has not shied

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00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: away from throwing to him. He's zach Ertz has been

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00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: the most targeted tight end in the NFL so far

1083
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: this and why wouldn't he be Because the offensive line

1084
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: is not held up very well and usually they will

1085
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: tell you the quarterback's favorite checkdown, if not checkdowns that

1086
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: he's throwing to him, though I wouldn't say checkdown. Let

1087
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: me get that, let me get that straight. This quarterback's

1088
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 1: favorite security blanket, okay, is either gonna be the check

1089
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: down to the running back or the short pass to

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00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: the tight end. Those are always gonna be a quarterback's

1091
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: favorite security blanket when he's gonna get get pressured. That's

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00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: just the way it is. So you know that doesn't

1093
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: that doesn't shock me at all. Well, and here's the

1094
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: important thing to note when you're watching tonight's game. The

1095
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: reason why I bring up zach ERT's being a wide receiver, Paul,

1096
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: the Eagles, unlike any other team that I've seen in

1097
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: today's NFL, they're gonna put more tight ends on the

1098
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: field then they're gonna put wide receivers on the field.

1099
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: They'll put three tight ends on the field because they

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00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: also have Josh Perkins and they have Dallas Goddard who's

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00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: the rookie at of South Dakota State. So those three

1102
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: guys they will put on the field short yardage, goal line.

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00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: And that's why zach Ertz gets open because you have

1104
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: the extra blockers, and now you don't know if Godard's

1105
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: gonna run a route because he has the ability to

1106
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: catch the ball down the field. He already had one

1107
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: big game this year, and now you keep the defense

1108
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: on its toes. So this is gonna be a much

1109
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: different look offensively compared to the previous five teams that

1110
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: the Giants all this think about it with no sprawls there.

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00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: And he was their third down specialist for the last

1112
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: couple of years, although he has missed a lot of

1113
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: time due to injury. Who is going to be a

1114
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,479
Speaker 1: third down specialist. There's gonna be urds. That's the guy.

1115
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: And he's had at least ten catches and a hundred

1116
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: receiving yards in each of his last two games. That's

1117
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: why I mean, I'm not bringing this up to you know,

1118
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: give Zacher's pats on the back. The guy's produced over

1119
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: the last two games. And the Giants have had some

1120
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: trouble with tight ends. I think that's been well documented

1121
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: to the problem is they give yards after the catch too.

1122
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: That that's the worst part. It's not just that he

1123
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: catches it. Tight ends catch the ball against the Giants,

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00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: they usually run for more yardage afterwards. Because he'll shed

1125
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: a tackle and then he'll pick up all the time

1126
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: five or seven yards and that's another first down here

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00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: and there. That's why the mis tackling was something that

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00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, really hurt the Giants last week, in addition

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00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: to the special teams mishaps. Because I remember on that

1130
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel play, Paul I counted five miss tackles on

1131
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: that touchdown. They could have brought him down twenty as

1132
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: opposed to the goal line. That was sad. They had

1133
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: a handful of plays that you know that defense wanted

1134
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: back when they looked at the film. But again, for

1135
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: the most part, it was it was a solid effort.

1136
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: It was an effort that was good enough to win

1137
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: the game, and and it it didn't happen again for

1138
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: a variety of reasons. You put thirty one points on

1139
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: the board most weeks, you're putting yourself in a position

1140
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: to win. But once again, they weren't responsible for the

1141
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: touchdown that was recovered in the end zone off the

1142
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: special teams. So that but but what I'm saying is

1143
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: the defense was good enough to win that game even

1144
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: in spite of everything that happened. The defense did not

1145
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: given up give up enough points to lose the game.

1146
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: Special teams gave up a touchdown. Yeah, and those things

1147
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: add up, and that's why we put those things at

1148
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: the microscope. When you wind up losing by two, you

1149
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: think about all the other bounces, all the other players,

1150
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: and it could have went the other way. That's the

1151
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: difference between winning and losing. It's a fine line in

1152
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: the National Football League. One of the things that I

1153
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: wanted to add to this miss tackle conversation. It could

1154
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: come into play today for both teams, because when it's

1155
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: a short turnaround, Paul, sometimes the fundamentals go out the window,

1156
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: especially if guys are worn down and tired. Yeah, I

1157
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't deny that. And then you add the rain on

1158
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: top of that. So mother nature being tired miss tackles.

1159
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: This is why we've seen a lot of Thursday sloppy games.

1160
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: Thursday games have been good for the most part. I

1161
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: would say this year, I think they've been ten times

1162
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: better than they were last year. So you know, maybe

1163
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: teams are learning from experiences previous years. But this is

1164
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna be the first ugly weather game we're gonna have

1165
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: on Thursday night this season. Most of the other games

1166
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: have been pretty much ideal conditions. This probably won't surprise you,

1167
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 1: but I wish this game was back on the old

1168
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: natural grass of Yankee Stadium tonight. I figured we'd have

1169
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: a reference from the eighteenth century out of you. The

1170
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: show is incomplete until we get Paul to go deep

1171
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: into the mud and the blood and the guts and

1172
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: John Madden all over the football field. I like the raid,

1173
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: so maybe I'm in the minority. I don't mind. Listen,

1174
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: poom sack, It's Giants. It's old school, old school football Weathers.

1175
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: Sign me up for that. I mean I wanted an

1176
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: entertaining pellets. Yeah. Next episode of Big Blue Kickoff Live,

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00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: Paul will continue to dig deep into the archives, so

1178
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: stay tuned for that. Is that is going to wrap

1179
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: things up for us today here on Thursday's This a

1180
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. Reminder. It is brought to you

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00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,920
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00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: app to win Amazing Giants prizes throughout the season. So

1183
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: we got Giants Eagles tonight eight fifteen kickoff, and we'll

1184
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: have a twenty kickoff. Excuse me, I'm mixing up Monday

1185
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: night football on Thursday Football Yes, the Falcons game will

1186
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: be eight fifteen, eight twenty kickoff. We'll have our pregame

1187
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: show on w f AN Sports Radio sixty six one

1188
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: on one point nine FM starting at six fifty. For

1189
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: those of you who are gonna be a MetLife stadium,

1190
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: will will be out at the MetLife Center, will stage

1191
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: at six fifty p m. Eastern, breaking it all down,

1192
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: getting you said for the contest, So stay tuned for that,

1193
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: or you can tune into that if you're in the

1194
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: New York, New Jersey metropolitan area. And after the game,

1195
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: don't forget MSG we have Giants postgame Live. Bob Popa

1196
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: will host outside from that very same met Life stage.

1197
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: I'll be inside the Coaches Club talking to players and

1198
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: we will find out in just a few short hours

1199
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: if the Giants are still alive in the NFC's Indeed,

1200
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: we'll also have postgame coverage on the Giants Radio Network

1201
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: on w f AN as well. Immediately following the game

1202
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: and draw the contest. Big Blue Kickoff Live back up

1203
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: and running on Friday one thirty p m. Eastern will

1204
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: recap all the festivities from tonight for Paulatino on Lance Meto.

1205
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Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your Thursday right here on giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com. I've going