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Speaker 3: If you're a Cowboy fan.

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Speaker 4: Everybody banged on the Cowboys for the Micah Parsons trade,

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Speaker 4: and that was the one thing I defended it. It

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Speaker 4: gave them flexibility. Just think about this this morning. After

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Speaker 4: the trade they just did. The Cowboys in return for

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Speaker 4: Micah Parsons got an additional first round pick next year.

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Speaker 4: Still have two first round picks, Kenny Clark and now

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Speaker 4: Quinn Williams. That's six Pro Bowls and less than you're

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Speaker 4: paying for Mikeah Parsons. I said the Micah Parsons deal.

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Speaker 4: Do not buy into its devastating. It gives the Cowboys flexibility.

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Speaker 4: So Green Bay got Micah Dallas got an additional first

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Speaker 4: round pick for this year, so they have two firsts

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Speaker 4: and they don't need a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: That is huge leverage.

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Speaker 4: They now have Quinn Williams, the best rush interior defender

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Speaker 4: in the league. Kenny Clark another great guy against the run,

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Speaker 4: and they're paying less than they were for Micah. And

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Speaker 4: if you ask general managers in the NFL, if you

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Speaker 4: had a choice between a dominant interior guy or an

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Speaker 4: edge rusher, you'd take the dominant interior guy. So now

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys have two of them, Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark.

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Speaker 4: Because the interior defensive line position is a rare body type.

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Speaker 4: When you can get a guy that's six one and

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Speaker 4: doesn't make a lot of those.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of good edge rushers.

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Speaker 4: There's not many Chris Jones and Aaron Donald's and Reggie

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Speaker 4: Whites on the planet. Ever, with that, Julian Edelman Sundays

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Speaker 4: on Fox NFL Kickoff, All right, trade deadline is interesting,

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Speaker 4: so and let's revisit this. So a team like the

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Speaker 4: Colts get Sauce Gardener, Sace go Jalen Ramsey can be

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Speaker 4: a little moody. Things go south. He goes south. But

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Speaker 4: in the next six weeks, next five weeks, they faced

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Speaker 4: Drake London, Nico Collins. You know, they're facing all these

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Speaker 4: number one wide receivers. How do you think Sauce Gardener

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Speaker 4: hopefully solving a Colt's weakness. What does that new to

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Speaker 4: the chemistry in the room in Indy.

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Speaker 5: I think the corner positions the one position you can

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Speaker 5: bring in and just say, hey, you're gonna guard this guy,

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Speaker 5: and I think it's gonna benefit them.

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Speaker 5: Sauce coming from the environment he was in in New York,

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Speaker 5: probably very unmotivated. Yeah, he's rich, he's got money, but

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Speaker 5: it's tough to lose weekend and week out year after year.

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Speaker 5: And that's what he's experience his whole career. And we've

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Speaker 5: seen flashes of really good corner. Now you put him

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Speaker 5: on a team that's vying for, you know, pretty much

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Speaker 5: a number one seed, a playoff spot, I bet you

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Speaker 5: his attitude changes completely. It reminds me when we brought

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Speaker 5: it was in twenty eleven or twelve, Yeah, and instantly

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Speaker 5: made an impact on our team. And if he didn't

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Speaker 5: get hurt in thirteen, I think the year that we

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Speaker 5: in that AFC Championship, Like, that's how big of an

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Speaker 5: impact he had on our team. And I think corners,

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Speaker 5: say is hey, buddy, cover three or it's cover one,

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Speaker 2: On that team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Cowboys when they made the Mica move, my

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Speaker 4: take was always Jerry's a deal maker and he's been

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Speaker 3: He has no flexibility.

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Speaker 4: Quinn Williams, Kenny Clark, and they still have two number ones.

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Speaker 3: That feels like, I mean, it's it, you know, this

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Speaker 4: Get too elite interior defensive linemen huge, that's I mean

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Speaker 5: But the interior part, if you've got a guy that

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Speaker 5: And once you start to make a team one dimensional

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Speaker 2: Now they got some first rounders.

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Speaker 5: Quinn Williams is going to be in that same category

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Speaker 2: So I think that's a win win for them.

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Speaker 4: So Sam Darnald and the Seahawks gave up a couple

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Speaker 4: of midpicks for Rashid Shaheed, meaning they can move JSN.

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Speaker 4: kid's unbelievable. So your takeaway, how long does it take

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Speaker 5: When you've got a guy that can stretch the field.

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Speaker 5: The happiest guy in that locker, he's got to be JSN.

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Speaker 5: I mean, anytime you got another because all the coverage

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Speaker 5: it's gonna take one big throw from Sam Darnold to

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Speaker 2: And that's gonna be Rashid Shiheed.

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Speaker 5: So as a guy that ate a lot in the slot,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, people are banging on the Colts for

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Speaker 4: giving up two first round picks one next year, one after.

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Speaker 4: It should be noted that thirty percent of the first

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Speaker 4: a year in this league. The Colts going for it, though,

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Speaker 4: is telling me Daniel Jones is our guy. Now that's

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Speaker 4: much easier for me to embrace in Seattle with Darnald

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Speaker 4: Donald right now, Analytically, the metrics says the best quarterback

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Speaker 4: a quarterback. We think Daniel is it watching the Colts?

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Speaker 4: Do you buy that?

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Speaker 2: I do buy that right now.

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Speaker 5: I mean the Colts for the last few years have

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Speaker 2: Then they bring in Jacoby Brissett, and.

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Speaker 5: You know, Daniel Jones had that little stint over in Minnesota,

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Speaker 5: got to learn see how this West Coast operation goes.

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Speaker 5: And then Shane Stiken has that kind of same system

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Speaker 2: And you watch Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 5: First off, he's a big guy, and you watch him

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Speaker 5: and it's sexy and he looks like a quarterback and

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Speaker 5: it just you know, and it never just it never

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Speaker 5: so you know, I think the sauce trade tells you

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Speaker 5: they're playing really good football in the AFC is kind

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Speaker 5: of all over the place right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So you Bill's Chiefs have played ten times, they've

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Speaker 4: time of possession, they got Mahomes got hit fifteen times.

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Speaker 4: Did you ever have a rival that beat you in

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Speaker 3: Us we're the better team.

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Speaker 2: Probably one of those Denver or Baltimore teams may.

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Speaker 5: Have beat us, and then we always saw them a

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Speaker 5: lot in the playoffs. And with this game shows me,

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Speaker 5: So I just take from this game. Look, Buffalo, last

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Speaker 5: afraid of playing Kansas City, and they just were on

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Speaker 5: their game and they rushed the ball very well with Cooks,

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes had his worst game of the year. So

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Speaker 5: this is gonna happen but by no means do I

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Speaker 5: think that this affects the Chiefs the next time they play,

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Speaker 5: because there'll be a completely different team when they play games.

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Speaker 4: NFL Kickoff. It's Julian Edelman on a trade deadline Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: just go, just go. Take out Drake London. You just

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Speaker 3: I think Dallas did well. Jmack with the news, turn

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Speaker 2: This is the herd line news.

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Speaker 8: All right, let's do a little more. Trade deadline.

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Speaker 6: So obviously the moves of are coming here fast and furious.

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Speaker 6: it's a really really high pick. In twenty seven, Colin.

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Speaker 6: One thing we haven't talked about with the Jets. They

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Speaker 6: They now have five first round picks over the next

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Speaker 3: But you know this, and I know this. If your

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Speaker 6: Yes, but they have bites at the apple. That's what

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Speaker 8: How sad are these guys?

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Speaker 3: Know what they're going to do.

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Speaker 4: The Jets are going to rebuild the defense on the cheap.

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Speaker 4: because they're not paying the quarterback. They have their tackles

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Speaker 4: center like the Bears did. Drew Dolman. Go get you

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Speaker 4: got Mendoza or Dante More get a Pro Bowl center.

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Speaker 4: thing he did drafted Joe Alt. All the smart coaches

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Speaker 3: Forget about all this stuff.

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Speaker 4: And so the Jets get Mendoza, get a center, and

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Speaker 8: So their center last year was Tipman.

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Speaker 6: He had to move to guard because Abt went down again.

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Speaker 6: I'm just you, guys, get your shots in at the Jets. Now,

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Speaker 6: go ahead, take all the joke, make all the jokes

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Speaker 6: you want. I'm just telling you, the tackles are in place.

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Speaker 6: They got a top five running back, a top five receiver.

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Speaker 6: They just need the quarterback and they now have a

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Speaker 6: It's a great day to be a Jets fan. All right,

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Speaker 6: Let's move to the other team in New York column,

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Speaker 6: the New York Giants. Brian Dable has kind of been

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: According to one NFL reporter, they're claiming New York is

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Speaker 6: thinking about a reunion now Lane kiffen and Jackson Dart

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Speaker 4: That's what I would That's what the Jets should do.

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Speaker 4: I think day Bole's fine. First of all, why is

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Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin leaving. He's the king in Ole miss gets

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Speaker 4: whatever he wants, does whatever he wants, players, money, private jets, everything,

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Speaker 4: the NFL with the Giant, it's the NFL. There's thirty

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Speaker 4: two NFL job. There's an argument, and.

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Speaker 6: That ain't a good one, though you want the good ones.

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Speaker 6: Jim Harvell went to the Charger.

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Speaker 4: I go to the Giant and I get Abdull Carter,

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Speaker 4: I get that those edge rushers. I have my left tackle.

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Speaker 4: I got neighbors Scataboo, Jackson Dart. I take that job

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Speaker 4: in a second over an SEC job.

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Speaker 3: In one second. I would take a Giant's job.

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Speaker 6: The problem is in college football, the money is getting

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Speaker 3: I don't have any portal in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: What if you like the portal like Lane Kiffin, you

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Speaker 4: Do you like dealing with an athletic director in the NCAA?

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Speaker 4: And I think Lane Kiffin is more powerful than the

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now New York Giants. You go

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Speaker 4: in the next year, Neighbors Scataboo, Jackson Dart, Andrew Thomas

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Speaker 8: It smells like.

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Speaker 6: Five wins to me. You got the Eagles to deal with.

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Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels will be back. Oh Ja Dallas is loading

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Speaker 6: up that Giants job. By the way, Bears, it is

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Speaker 6: I like the Bears.

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Speaker 8: You see three and a half on the speed against.

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Speaker 6: New York can't stop the run back into their defense

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Speaker 8: I don't know if it matters.

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Speaker 6: I like Manungady or however you say his last name

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Speaker 6: Kyle something or my fantasy team.

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Speaker 4: How can you be on your fantasy team and you

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Speaker 4: can't pronounce his name?

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Speaker 8: I'm in first place. I'm sorry, I don't care about lessons.

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Speaker 6: Finally, NBA story, Colin, this is spicy here, this Jamran situation.

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Speaker 6: We haven't really talked about it, but the young man's

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Speaker 8: Obviously, he was.

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Speaker 6: Suspended after the Lakers game for some comments he made

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Speaker 6: So they bring it back. Last night he was putrid

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Speaker 6: shooting the ball at eighteen points, but it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 6: He was shooting tour dates out there. Listen to what

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Speaker 5: We're doing the country staff able to talk about half

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Speaker 5: on Friday and smog on.

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Speaker 7: I's that questioning them, Huh what about Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I know the answer to that. Do you feel like

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: They told you I not right tell well, yeah, but

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Speaker 4: Mind you see listen, another domestic basketball player that isn't

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Speaker 4: it is, Zion Jaw Moran. That's on him. The gun

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Speaker 4: twenty four going on forty.

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Speaker 3: They're grown ups. They're mature.

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Speaker 4: They care about basketball and their teammates and their culture.

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Speaker 4: Jaw Moran's issues are Jaw Moran. I for the record,

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Speaker 4: I said it when he came in small, skinny guys

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Speaker 4: that can't shoot. These point guards that can't shoot that

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Speaker 4: everybody falls in love with Derek Rose, John Wall. They're

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Speaker 4: tremendously fun to watch. They don't win titles if you can't.

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Speaker 4: The only skinny, spindily small guys that work Steve Nash

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Speaker 3: They can shoot threes.

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Speaker 4: So they don't have to go into the Redwoods and

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Speaker 3: Jah Morant can't shoot.

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Speaker 4: His shooting's gutting has become is regressive fifteen percent. No, No,

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Speaker 4: it's gotten worse the last three years. So the people

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Speaker 4: falling in love Derek Rose Lebron shut him down. Lebron's

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Speaker 4: a Ford, He's like, y'all guard him. Take the bigger,

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Speaker 4: stronger athletes. Do not buy into spind the league guards

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Speaker 4: that can't shoot, they'll get hurt. This is a big

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Speaker 4: man's game. NBA guys, are you know there there are

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Speaker 4: so many two hundred and forty pound dudes in that league.

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Speaker 4: You can't be a buck eighty dripping wet.

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Speaker 8: So it's interesting you say all that stuff.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking Obviously, Kyler Murray has not had this many

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Speaker 8: But he had the whole playbook thing, didn't want to work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that his wasn't criminal, wasn't no.

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Speaker 6: Yes, correct, he did not have the criminals stuff. But

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Speaker 6: there is some petulance and some answers we've heard from

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Speaker 8: Ja Morants is really ugly.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if Kyler Murray has a market, and

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Speaker 6: I'll be honest, I don't know what team's taken on

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Speaker 6: John Morant. I got Miami heat fans, Oh, we'll take him.

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Speaker 6: He each culture all.

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Speaker 4: This I just shooting was bad when he came into

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Speaker 4: watched Jahn Morant, I mean he I think it's five

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Speaker 4: straight years. It's regressed. He can't shoot. And again people

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Speaker 4: fall in love with these small You know, there's the guards.

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Speaker 4: I like, play defense. D Wade played defense, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm and not all of them do. Nash and Curry

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Speaker 4: aren't great defenders. But it's the kid in San Antonio

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Speaker 4: from Yukon Stefan Castle, that dude DS you up. That

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Speaker 4: guy I will take. I'll build my franchise around him

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Speaker 4: and Wemby. But these skinny guys who shoot don't really

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Speaker 4: want to defend. They're not culture guys. I mean, the

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Speaker 4: NBA has had a bad month. Just a Hawks executive

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Speaker 4: just got in trouble for swindling the league. You got

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Speaker 4: Terry Porter and Chauncey Billups. It's very much a me

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Speaker 4: league in the NFL is a whe Terry Rozier, The

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Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, we have another player pouting.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it. I mean, the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: they're unity, they're all superstars, great unity.

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Speaker 3: NBA guy, I don't get my way. I'm out.

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Speaker 6: He's complaining about the rotation patterns. They had a new coach.

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Speaker 6: It's ugly, by the way, Zion, so tell me they

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Speaker 4: The Jets are asking for a third round pick for

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Speaker 8: We're not doing that.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't give up a third.

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Speaker 8: Round No hell, oh stop it in a heartbeat.

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Speaker 6: No way, it's running sounds would it's somebody a super

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Speaker 8: He's that good.

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Speaker 6: It's a running league. We talked about this yesterday. Hey,

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Speaker 6: By the way, chiefs for shopping. They pacheco out. They

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Speaker 6: can't run the football. Did you see the Bills? I

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Speaker 6: saw I saw a video on the Bills played six defensive.

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Speaker 8: Backs for like ninety.

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Speaker 6: Percent of the game because they don't respect.

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Speaker 8: The run game of the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Case.

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Speaker 4: If I if I'm Brett Veach, I go get him.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you a fourth. Hell no, get out of town.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy the wild card loss.

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Speaker 2: RTT.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you guys can be all miss

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Speaker 4: this weekend?

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Speaker 3: Who the Jets?

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Speaker 8: They're playing the Browns.

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Speaker 6: a half.

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Speaker 8: They're now underdogs at opis Around.

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Speaker 2: And Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 3: Nothing like trading away all your good players.

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Speaker 6: Great, make a loss, get that number one pick Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: That's my guy. J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: Herd line Missure.

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Speaker 4: The Jets locker room is joyful and optimistic. Today it's

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Speaker 4: the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter nine am Pacific.

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Speaker 6: Start your Saturday strong with the unstoppable second Rankedoosiers.

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Speaker 8: All eyes are on for Nano Mendoza.

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Speaker 6: As he leads Indiana and continues his Heisman campaign against

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Speaker 6: Penn State. It all starts with big noon kickoffs at

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Speaker 6: ten am Eastern. Then it's Indiana Penn State, Big Noon Saturday.

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Speaker 8: Only on Fox.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So the Jets traded sauce Gardener for the Colts

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Speaker 4: for two first rounders and a player. It's interesting. Two

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Speaker 4: years ago Jay Mack and I listen closely, we're discussing.

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Speaker 4: J Mack was theorizing on trading sauce Gardener as a

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Speaker 4: Jets fan.

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Speaker 3: This is what I said.

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Speaker 6: Watch but if you can, all of a sudden, get

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Speaker 6: a get get a get a one and a four,

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Speaker 6: A one and a five.

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Speaker 3: For sauce gardon. I don't know a tive a one

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Speaker 3: time bag in groceries tomorrow. That's nothing.

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Speaker 5: I stop.

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Speaker 3: I need two ones and a player for sauce Gardener.

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Speaker 6: Hmmm.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, that's exactly what happened today. No struck Colin AnyWho. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: two years ago, Breece Hall, Jermaine Johnson. They have offers

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Speaker 4: for both. Oh so right now the discount store known

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Speaker 4: as the New York Jets has traded Sauce.

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Speaker 3: Gardner Quinn Williams.

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Speaker 4: They have Zach a writer for The Athletic who covers

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Speaker 4: the Jets. Jermaine Johnson, who's been med is on the market.

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Speaker 4: Johnson was hurt all year, and then Brece Hall. I

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Speaker 4: think my take is the Chiefs are looking at Breese Hall.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and the forty nine ers one Johnson saw. Robert

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Speaker 6: Solad knows him from his time. Jets are not trading

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Speaker 6: will McDonald, the young kid out of Iowa State. Johnson's

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Speaker 6: good player, man, he was a top I think top

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Speaker 6: twenty five Florida State.

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Speaker 8: An, yeah, he could. I just don't want to give

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Speaker 8: up Brees Saw Collins. They're going to have a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree.

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Speaker 4: Watching Kim Ward right now, struggle watch. What the Jets

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Speaker 4: are doing is act. I'll give him credit for this.

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Speaker 4: They're moving off defensive players. You want your defense to

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Speaker 4: be cheap, so you're gonna have to pay. You're paying

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Speaker 4: Quentin Williams, You're paying Sauce Gardner, You're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: pay Jermaine Johnson. They're getting those guys out. That's what

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Speaker 4: you should do. Don't pay your defensive guys. I've talked

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Speaker 4: to a half a dozen nflgms. Pay one great defensive

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Speaker 4: lineman a Max Crosby. A Chris Jones, go pay one

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Speaker 4: Jared Verse. The Rams are already getting ready in two

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Speaker 4: years to pay Jared Verse through a Brinks truck. They

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Speaker 4: get it, you pay. Quinn Williams is a hard guy

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Speaker 4: to move off of. It is, but I think what

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Speaker 4: they're saying is, let's go draft Mendoz or Dante More,

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Speaker 4: will buy an offense of veterans around him that are proven,

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Speaker 4: that can support him, and will just draft defense.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the right play.

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Speaker 4: I don't like their current coach, but what the Jets

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Speaker 4: are doing and the Cowboys today, So the Cowboys. Everybody's

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Speaker 4: banging on the Cowboys, the Mica trade, the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: We all have two number ones next year and they

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Speaker 4: don't need a quarterback. And now they have Quinn Williams

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Speaker 4: and Kenny Clark and that's less than the Packers are

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Speaker 4: paying Micah. Yeah, but they gave Land ninety two million dollars.

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Speaker 6: He's getting cooked on national TV TuS.

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Speaker 3: I know, but I think he's a good player.

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Speaker 6: He please, he's it's Trayvon Diggs can't even stay on

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Speaker 6: the field. So, like, I get it, you want to

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Speaker 6: load of Jerry Jones has no idea what he's doing.

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Speaker 6: None Colin moving off miket to bring in two defensive tackles.

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Speaker 3: We got to stop the run.

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Speaker 4: Every every every GM I talked to says there are

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Speaker 4: certain body types six seven, three point thirteen left tackle.

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Speaker 4: There's like one great one a year, maybe two. The

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Speaker 4: planet delivers. There's an old general manager for the New

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Speaker 4: York Giants named George Young, and he had.

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Speaker 3: A planet theory.

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Speaker 4: The planet gives you certain body types. Infrequently left tackles

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Speaker 4: the top twenty five ever, like twenty three or first rounders.

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Speaker 3: You can get receivers anywhere.

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Speaker 4: You can get edge rushers anywhere, tight ends anywhere, even

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks the best ever.

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Speaker 3: Brady's a sixth rounder.

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Speaker 4: Hard to find undrafted seventh round left tackles who dominate

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Speaker 4: the league. So I think the Jets and the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: what they did I'm gonna defend. I think there's an

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Speaker 4: argument the Colts gave up too much. It should have

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Speaker 4: been a now by the way, I said two years ago,

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Speaker 4: I thought Sauce Gardner was worth two ones in a

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Speaker 4: player I did. He has regressed, but I think a

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Speaker 4: lot of that is he was great with Robert Sala

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Speaker 4: and he'll be great with the Colts coordinate. We know

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Speaker 4: coaching matters beyond head coach. We know the role great

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Speaker 4: coordinators playing this league.

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Speaker 8: Part of the reason I said it one and a

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Speaker 8: four for Sauce.

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Speaker 6: Was that was before they paid him, because you would

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Speaker 6: have to pay him.

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Speaker 8: You're not giving up two ones. Now he's got his

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Speaker 8: deal and you give up the ones. I think the

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Speaker 8: Jets stole majorly from the Colts coup