1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge podcast presented by DraftKings. I'm Garrett Downey, 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: joined by Clifton Brown, and today we're so excited today 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: to be joined by Judy Watista from the NFL Network 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and an NFL insider here in Judy. I'm just we're 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: at the owners meetings and as we said, the stage 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: here for the Ravens going into this season. Cliff and 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your perspective from a national view. 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: You have such a good feel for the league as 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: a whole when you look at the Ravens. What stands out? 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: What do you think about this team? 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, It's a good answer. The first thing that 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: pops into my head. I feel like, I mean, I 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: feel like they're right there. Every year. I always think 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: like every year I'm going to be at a playoff game, 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: probably in Baltimore, and it's just a question of can 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: they get the final you know, that final little step. 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: But I just feel like, listen, I remember when I 18 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: was at the New York Times a long time ago, 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: but like I remember writing a story about the organization 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: and like how consists didn't it was? It was mostly 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: about Ozzie Newsome at the time, and obviously it has 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:09,639 Speaker 2: continued with Eric, but it's just continually uh top level 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: and always right there. And I think, like for most organizations, 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: like you probably can't ask for anythingmore. 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: You mentioned Lamar right off the top. You know, he 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: almost won his third MVPs. I've been in Baltimore the 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: precinct came in for Lamary. Just wanted to get your 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: opinion on what you thought about the MVP bas and 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: who you would have voted for in last. 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: Year, right, So I don't have a vote, I listen. 31 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: I think I thought you could have made arguments for 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: several Lamar, Josh Allen. I think Choe Burrow had an 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: insane season. If the defensive played better, you could have 34 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: made a really strong argument for him. I was surprised 35 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: it was not Lamar, mostly because if you're the first 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: team All Pro, you are almost always the MVP is 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: the quarterback. So I was surprised by the split of 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: the vote there, don't I don't really know. I didn't 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: really talk to people who were voters and asked, like, 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: what why just split the vote? Like what happened there? Listen? 41 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: I mean, Josh Allen is obviously deserving. He had a 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: great season. I think probably why people veered toward Josh 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: Allen here. I think there's probably some of the like, well, 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: Lamar's already gotten too, he'll probably win more. He's almost 45 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: certainly gonna win again, at least one more, maybe more 46 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: than that. So that's one thing Josh had never won one. 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: And I think there was also a perception last season 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: in particular that the Bills had less around him than 49 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: Ravens had around Lamar, Right, I mean, Lamar had Derrick Henry, 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: but he's insane. So I think there was sort of that, well, 51 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: you should reward Josh Allen for, you know, doing it 52 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: with less than Lamar. Yeah, I'm as I was explaining 53 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: to you on the lookover. I'm glad I don't have 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: about it. I've been in a level park. 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's a tough assignment. You know when when 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: you mention, you mentioned stability with the organization, and that's 57 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: stability has been in place with John Harbaugh. I mean 58 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: Ozz he knws him of course, and then Eric and 59 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: and now and now John finished his seventeenth season, just 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: got a contract extension to three more years on top 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: of the year that he already had and so it's 62 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: going to take it past twenty years his contract, which 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: is almost never happened crazy in the NFL. Well, what 64 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: stands out to you about the way that he's been 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: able to lead this team and the consistency that he's brought. 66 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: What I think he does so well is he keeps 67 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: things steady, right, Like he is a really steady personality 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: through ups and downs. Obviously there have been controversies, there 69 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: are quite a few years ago now, but like they 70 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: you know, he's he keeps things steady, and I think 71 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: he does a really good job of sort of probably 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: for him, but certainly for the organization, like keeping the 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: noise on the edges and focusing on the football. Look 74 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: and I mean obviously he's got very good players to 75 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: work with, but I mean that, you know, to be 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: able to perform at a top level in the NFL 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: year after year after year. And I know fans look 78 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: at Super Bowls, right and you want the title, but 79 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: to be able to be in it year after year 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: after year is is really difficult. I mean to go 81 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 2: to the just to look at the Patriots, Like obviously 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: the Patriots won a lot of Super Bowls, but to me, 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: one of the things that the Patriots was so amazing 84 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: about them is that, like they were in the AFC 85 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: Championship game like every year, so to be in the playoffs, 86 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 2: to have so many wins, to host playoff games year 87 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: after year after year, it's really hard, and I think 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: John makes it look effortless. It's certainly not effortless. But 89 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: what I've always admired about him is that he's just 90 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: really steady, really flatling. 91 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: You mentioned that Derek and we had a pretty. 92 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 4: Go for good. 93 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: I mean, he we're right, we were all talking about 94 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: could he be the MVP early in the first half 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: of the season. 96 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: Right right, and now this off season the Raids there 97 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, I'm just curious about your perception of 98 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: the Ravens being able to be a contender but seemingly 99 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: able to add pieces. 100 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: That they need along the way. 101 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: How difficult is an hour and propress on you by 102 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: the fact that even though they already know they're a 103 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: good team, they never stop trying to make pieces. 104 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: So we uh. I sat down with John harpa earlier 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: in this meeting for some future reporting, but we talked 106 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: aboutd hop and he said, like, finally he said this 107 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: feels like finally they you know, they've been looking at 108 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: him for a long time, He's been looking at them 109 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: for a long time. Finally they're going to get to 110 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: work together, which was sort of the same thing about 111 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: Derrek Henry, right, like, finally this marriage we all thought 112 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: should happen is happening. Listen, That's what good organizations do, right. 113 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: The Kansas City Chiefs seemed to do that too, like 114 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: the if you look at the reef Ands Rouster like 115 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: they don't have This has not been a very active 116 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: free agency, which is and I know that may drive 117 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: some people nuts, but like that means you don't have 118 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: any glaring holes you have to fill. Like that's a 119 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: good thing, right. You kept Ronnie Stanley, that was the 120 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: big one. D Hop is a piece. I think he's 121 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: an important piece, even though he's older. First of all, 122 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: he brings some veteran experience to what is an otherwise 123 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: pretty young receiver room. And he's obviously a reliable weapon. 124 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: And to me, when you have a quarterback like Lamar Jacks, 125 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: any of these top top quarterbacks, like your whole job 126 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: as an organization is to put as much as you 127 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: can around him whatever he needs to keep adding pieces, 128 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: whether it's on the offensive line, the receivers are running 129 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: back who can take some of the load off. That's 130 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 2: your organization's job. And I think to do that two 131 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: years in a row with Derrick Henry and now de 132 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 2: Hop and we'll see what they do in the draft. 133 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: Like I think that's why again they cheap. You can't 134 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: be static in the NFL, but you will. You're losing 135 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: ground if you're staying the same in the NFL. And 136 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: so I think to keep adding pieces. And look, de 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: Hoop is again, he's older. Now he's not going to 138 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: be you know, he's not a two thousand yard receiver, 139 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: but he will play a role and he will be 140 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: a reliable target. 141 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm curious when you look at the AFC North Ravens 142 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: have won two straight AFC North championships and. 143 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: Also really hard in a brutal division. Yeah, I mean 144 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: it's really hard division. 145 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt what you what do you make the 146 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: division in the Ravens prospects of three pt in the division? 147 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think their prospects are pretty good. So much 148 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: depends obviously on I mean, we don't even know who 149 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: the Stewlers quarterback is going to be so who knows. 150 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: And we don't know what the Cleveland Browns quarterback is 151 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: going to be, so who knows? Uh. I think their 152 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: prospects are really good. They are the most complete team 153 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: in the division. The Bengals are a very very good 154 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: offensive team, if they can get past their slow starts, 155 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: which so much of that has been because of Joe 156 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: Burrow's health. He's healthy now, assuming he stays healthy going 157 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: into the season. You but think they would not start 158 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: slow this year. If they don't start slowly, that's a 159 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: different team than what we've seen in the last few years. 160 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: They've made changes on the defense too. I mean, so 161 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: you don't know what that's going to look like. But 162 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: they I think as long as Burrow and Chase and 163 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: how Higgins are or unit that's going to they're going 164 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: to be a dangerous team. Again, you don't know what 165 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: the Steelers. The Steelers have a really good defense, but 166 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: you have no idea. Is it Aaron Rodgers, is it 167 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: somebody else? Who knows? We'll see If it's Aaron Rodgers, 168 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: what does he have left? You know, which Aaron Rodgers 169 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: are you getting? And I mean Cleveland, I you know, 170 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: you just don't know at all. What's going to happen there. 171 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: It's obviously not going to beat to Sean Watson. Jimmy 172 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: has One said that as much yesterday, so it's not 173 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: We're not going to see to Sean Watson ever again there. 174 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: So I think there's significant questions about the other teams anyway, 175 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: and the Ravens are I think, continuing to add pieces 176 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 2: and that's what they should be doing. So I would say, yeah, 177 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 2: answer is I said they have a pretty good chance 178 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: for Peter. 179 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you talked about you know, the rave is always 180 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: being there and in Baltimore. 181 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: I think now that's all is what is the secret 182 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 4: to getting over the right? 183 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: That seems to be the question everyone wants to know 184 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: asking you that question, What do you think? 185 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 4: What do you think it is? 186 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: There's something I'm just curious get someone else's point of 187 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: view who's kind of step. 188 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: Away from him. 189 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: Man, I don't know. I mean, first of all, you've 190 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: all got to be healthy at the right time, which 191 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: they were, but that has been an issue in the past, 192 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: right that maybe they haven't been at peak health at 193 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: the end of the season. That's a big heck. I mean, 194 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I mean the Chiefs are 195 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, and you know, I think people think that 196 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: the Chiefs have regressed because of the way the season 197 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: ended against the Eagles, and it's like I would be 198 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: careful about writing off the Chiefs. They're still getting there. 199 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahoons is still there, Andy Reid is still a coach. 200 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: Like they're not going anywhere. 201 00:09:59,080 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: You know. 202 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: I think part of this it is just just exactly 203 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: what happened when Tom Brady was in New England. Right, 204 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: you are in a conference with an all time, all 205 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: time great and you've got to get past that. And 206 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: we saw that, you know, the AFC struggle with that 207 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: for years with Brady and Belichick there, and you've just 208 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: got to break through. I do think that the one 209 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: thing if you're an AFC team and you watch the 210 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, you know, you saw again the two Super 211 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: Bowls that the Chiefs have lost have been because they 212 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: have been able to get to Mahomes consistently. Right, the 213 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: offensive line has not held up, and you've got to 214 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: be able to get him down or carass him. That's 215 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: the formula figure out how to do it. But mostly 216 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: I think that there's just a lot of luck at involved. 217 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: Like it's there's an awful lot of skill involved in 218 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: the NFL, but like everything has to come together at 219 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: the right moment. 220 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: Well, last one for me, Judy, you go to games 221 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: all over the country, you watch every team in the league. 222 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: When you get your assignment for the week and you're 223 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: going to a Ravens game, and you know, you get 224 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: to watch Lamar Jackson play. Like, what is the first 225 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: thing you started the conversation of one. 226 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I get to watch Lamar play. That's exactly what. 227 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: That's exactly. First of all, I should start by saying that, 228 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: like I grew up in South Florida, and so I've 229 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: been paying attention to Lamar's career because he's a South 230 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: Florida guy, and like he literally like played in a 231 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: park in pomp and Hoop each that's not that far 232 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: from where I grew up. And so I'm just I 233 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: sort of feel like, you know, we sort of joke 234 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: in the family like it's our cousin, Lamar Jackson. I 235 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: feel bonded to him. I mean, that's exactly. But I 236 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: think when I get that sound like awes it. I 237 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: got to watch Lamar great. And also it's a really 238 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: easy trip for New. 239 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: Organ short trip. It's perfect. 240 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: Two for two, hop on the train, everything's great. 241 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, two for two. 242 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: That's one for me too. Kind of we late guess 243 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: coming to M and T Bank Stadium. In the atmosphere there, 244 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: particularly for night games, you've expected and you go everywhere. 245 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: What's it like they're going to a Raven's game. 246 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: It's right. I love they've done that the Ravens walk thing, 247 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: because I if I can, I will stay in downtown 248 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: and walk to the gate. Sorry, and she just bank 249 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: the microphone and walk. And I think that's like just 250 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: a that's a fun atmosphere, right when the fans are 251 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: out there on the food trucks and music and like, 252 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 2: it's just a cool atmosphere. It's a great atmosphere for 253 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: a night game. It's a great atmosphere for a one 254 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: o'clock game too. It's just a cool atmosphere and obvious. Listen, 255 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: I love downtown stadiums anyway. I love stadiums that are 256 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: in the city. I love that it's next to Camden Yards. 257 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: I like that you can walk. I like the people 258 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 2: are around around town. You know, you see people that 259 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: night before out of the restaurants. It's just a cool setting. 260 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: It's great, awesome, Well, we really appreciate the time. 261 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. My pleasure sign here. Thanks you too. 262 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back into the lounge. We are coming to you 263 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: from the sea Geek Cudio. We also want to mention 264 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: our partners at Draft King sports Book. They are an 265 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: official sports betting partner at the Baltimore Ravens Draft King 266 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Sports Book. The crown is yours so big. Thanks to 267 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Judy for joining us. You guys are old New York 268 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: Times college right. 269 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: Correct, work together for a long time there. Great writer, 270 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: great person and really has tremendous insight I think on 271 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: the entire NFL. 272 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I enjoyed getting her kind of ten thousand foot 273 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: of view of where this team is. And it's clear 274 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: that she feels like and this is a common theme 275 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: here that there's just this model of consistency and stability 276 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: that the Ravens are and the expectation is to be 277 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: right back in the thick of. 278 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: It, right, and that's where you want to be. I mean, 279 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: you don't want to be one of those teams. It 280 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: has all these questions marks. Even though it is early 281 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: a few months left before we even get the training camp, 282 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 3: the better, more questions you can answer early on the better. 283 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think it's taken for granted sometimes that 284 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: the Ravens are one of those teams that in the 285 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: offseason seems to not have tremendous holes of fields. They 286 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: can target certain areas. They're obviously always trying to upgrade 287 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: a roster. But as John Harbaugh said a few days ago, 288 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: can we can play a game tomorrow if we had to? 289 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 4: We feel pretty good about it. 290 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: And yeah, the NFL divided to me the kind of 291 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: two countries, teams that have a quarterback they. 292 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 4: Know they can win with and teams that don't. 293 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: And when you have a quarterback like Lamar Jackson that 294 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: you know you can win with, then that puts you 295 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: way ahead of the game and where you're like the 296 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: varying against teams that do not. 297 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: Well, Look, we're walking around here and you see owners 298 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: and you see gms, and you see coaches, and for 299 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: the owners and coaches and gms that have one of 300 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks, I just think it's it's a much better feeling, 301 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: and everybody else it doesn't. There they're on the hunt, 302 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: they're looking for somebody, and you can be in the 303 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: wilderness for a long time if you don't have that. 304 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: And the Ravens have been so steady at quarterback and 305 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: I think that we, honestly co probably take it for 306 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: granted to go from Flacco to Lamar and have that 307 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: run that this team has been on with these quarterbacks. 308 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: So Ravens are in a really good place. And along 309 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: the same lines here are also caught up with Mike 310 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: gharrifollow from the NFL Network When did you do these 311 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: colleagues there? And wanted to get his perspective just on 312 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: this team as well, And so we're gonna go ahead 313 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: and roll that interview right here the Rayvers fans. I'm 314 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: here with Mike yarro Follo from the NFL Network and 315 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: we are here at the annual league meetings at West 316 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: Palm Beach. Mike's got the shades on, you know, in 317 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: the Florida vibes right here. So just for you, as 318 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: if you look at the Ravens, what's your big picture 319 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: view of this team this offseason? 320 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 4: Look, it's a team. 321 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: You know. 322 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: I say this when I go to Ravens training camp. 323 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: It's because you go to training camp you're so positive 324 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 5: about every team because nobody's lost the game yet, right, 325 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 5: and nobody's injured, and you look across and as every 326 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 5: team's got talent. So it's always great to go to 327 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 5: Ravens camp though, because you can say those things and 328 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 5: know you're not gonna be made to look silly because 329 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: it's going to be a competitive team. It's going to 330 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 5: be most likely a playoff team. And the way that 331 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: John Harball has them ready every single year. You look 332 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 5: at the roster this year and it's like, well, why 333 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 5: would that not still be the case this upcoming season? 334 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 5: Being able to bring some talent back, add some other 335 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 5: pieces as well. That Dehandre Hopkins won obviously a big one. 336 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 5: It's always going to be a good mix of veteran 337 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 5: and young talent, and I think they've done a great 338 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 5: job of that again this year. 339 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned John Harball. Just before these meetings started, 340 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: the team announced extatch with him, three year kind extension. 341 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: How big is it to get that deal done? And 342 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: what does that say about him is for the ten 343 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: year that he's had in this league in Baltimore. 344 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, you come to these events and it's combine 345 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: of the league meeting and I'll be frank with you, 346 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 5: the last extension he did Before this one, there were 347 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 5: rumblings of people saying, like you want watch hardball, like 348 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 5: that could be an opening. He could be headed elsewhere 349 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 5: and blah blah. And then he did an extension and 350 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 5: the same thing kind of came up recently. It's like 351 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 5: watch watch out for that one could be like you know, 352 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 5: Andy Reid was at in Philly and like needed a reset, 353 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 5: like you run, you run, your your your course and 354 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 5: once it and it's time to move another extension for 355 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 5: three years because it's a great working relationship. 356 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: Uh. 357 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 5: It's a guy that, certainly, Steve Bushatti understands what he 358 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 5: has in a head coach, a guy that's done a 359 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 5: great job of hiring assistant coaches for the vision that 360 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 5: he wants on both sides of the football throughout his 361 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 5: entire tenure. He's just a terrific head coach. Why would 362 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 5: you not extend him? And the fact that he agreed 363 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 5: to it and wants to be around great sign there 364 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: as well. 365 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: Well. 366 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: You talk about contract extensions, He's talked in his time 367 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: with the media, say about a potential contract extension for 368 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. So there's been internal dialogue. So you're keeping 369 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: this core in place here the partnership here with the 370 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: head coach and the quarterback. You know, potential extension with 371 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: Lamar is what are you hearing on that? And the 372 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: potential there? 373 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 4: Did me just do this? 374 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 5: I can't believe we're back here already asking these questions before. Yeah, 375 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 5: but you know you do these deals. Look, Josh Allen 376 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 5: just did it, right. I mean, he did a deal. 377 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 5: It was a great deal at the time, and the 378 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: cap exploded and the quarterback market exploded, and it's hard 379 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 5: to sit there at a number and say, why are 380 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 5: these guys in the sixties now right? Why are these 381 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 5: guys all the way up there? And I understand if 382 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 5: Lamar feels that way, and I understand if Lamar fields, 383 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 5: he should be the highest paid quarterback in the league. 384 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 4: And it's only gonna get higher. 385 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: I mean, we're gonna get brock Purty coming up here 386 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 5: for this forty nine ers this offseason. And if you 387 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 5: look at where he slotted based on the percentage of 388 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 5: the way I like to do it is when the 389 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 5: quarterback did his deal, what percentage of the salary cap 390 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 5: did he eat up per year with his deal? It's 391 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 5: anywhere from twenty to twenty five percent Joe Burrow I 392 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 5: think was on the high end. Jared Goff was on 393 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 5: the low end of twenty percent. Twenty percent of the 394 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 5: salary cap right now is in the high fifties. That's 395 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 5: over all these guys, Jalen Hurts and Lamar and Trevor 396 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 5: Lawrence and Joe Burrow, like Brock, Perty's gonna be at both. 397 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 5: And I know what they're gonna say, that guy was 398 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 5: the last pick. 399 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: In the draft. I gotta be up above him. 400 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 5: I've you know, had more sustained success than him. It's 401 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 5: his time to get that, and he deserves it and 402 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 5: he will, and I think there's gonna be a chain reaction. 403 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 5: So a lot of times if you want to be 404 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 5: aggressive and get ahead of it right and say well, 405 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 5: let's do it now before that gets done, because that's 406 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 5: only going to raise the price as well as some 407 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 5: other ones that are being done as well. So you know, 408 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 5: Lamar deserves it, he's shown it. I think it'll get 409 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 5: done at some point. And the I said we just 410 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 5: did this. He doesn't have an agent, right, So that's 411 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 5: Alway's gonna make it a little bit tougher to read it, yeah, 412 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 5: because he's keeping everything to himself and its communication between 413 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 5: him and Eric da Costa. 414 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 4: And that's good, that's fair. 415 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 5: I think they did a great job of that the 416 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 5: first time around, of making sure that they had the 417 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 5: respect for Lamar. We're going to keep these conversations private. 418 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 4: They did a great job of that. 419 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 5: I expect that to happen again. 420 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: Harball talk today just about the belief that it's a 421 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: matter of when, not if, for Lamar to win a 422 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. 423 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: And obviously the Ravens have. 424 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: Been knocking on the door, have been right there. What 425 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: in your mind is, as you look at this team 426 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: and you have such a good feel for the league 427 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: as a whole, what does it take for the team 428 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: to make that next step to get to that Super 429 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: Bowl with Lamar and ultimately win that Lombardi. 430 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 5: Look, a lot of people are going to tell you, 431 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 5: oh that the style of player, the style of offense 432 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 5: that can't win. 433 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 4: They can win. They can win, and they. 434 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 5: Just haven't made some crucial plays. And sometimes we as 435 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 5: the media say, oh man, how long is the offseason? 436 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 5: You know how long this offseason must feel to Mark 437 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 5: Andrews and how much he wants to get back on 438 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 5: that field to show you what he is what he's 439 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 5: capable of, what he can do for this team, and 440 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 5: what he can do in clutch spots, what he has 441 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 5: done in clutch spots before. So I expect him to 442 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: come with a chip on the shoulder that helps. I'm 443 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: good with that. I'm good if Mike all pro tight 444 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 5: end throughout his career with US, has more to prove 445 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 5: this upcoming season. So I think it's gonna be a 446 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 5: little things like that DeAndre Hopkins coming in and say 447 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna help this team get over the hump as well. 448 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 5: I think those are the things that you need. You're 449 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 5: gonna need your veterans to kind of carry you at 450 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 5: that moment and continue to rely on your on your 451 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 5: youth to be the spark that keeps you moving in 452 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: the right direction as well. So it's just a matter 453 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 5: of making the plays at the right time. It hasn't happened. 454 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 5: It's not for lack of coaching and lack of preparation. 455 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 5: It's just tough to win in the playoffs in this league. 456 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: And you talk about the offense, and this is the 457 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: team overall veteran leaders, Ronnie. The rate the Ravens typically 458 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: do business is they keep their own guys, and Royne 459 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: Stanley is a player, former first round pick. He's done 460 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: multiple deals with the Ravens. They work out the long 461 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: term extension with him to keep him in Baltimore, and 462 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: Hardball talked today about how he's a legacy type player 463 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: in Baltimore and he's one of those guys that's been 464 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: there for this, for this run. How big was this 465 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: to keep him in Baltimore and knowing that he obviously 466 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: could have had a lot of suitors out there. 467 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 5: Oh, he had a ton of suitors. He was gonna 468 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 5: have a ton of interest, and who knows what he 469 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: could have wind up making, But it was more important 470 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 5: to him to get a fair deal and to be 471 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 5: with the team that he felt comfortable with it. He 472 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 5: feels like, probably the same way I can help, I 473 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 5: want to be here when this team gets over the 474 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 5: hump and finally wins that championship. So it was absolutely enormous, 475 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 5: not just from a schematic standpoint to get your left tackle. 476 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: We know the importance of having a left tackle you 477 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 5: can rely upon in this league, but also a guy 478 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 5: that has so much impact throughout the organization as well. 479 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 5: I thought them getting him. I was surprised I thought 480 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 5: I bought into the hype. I thought he was going 481 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 5: to hit the market and head elsewhere for big money 482 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 5: to get him done, even before the market open, if 483 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 5: I recall correctly, was just enormous. 484 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome. Well, we really appreciate the time. Enjoy the 485 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: rest of your week here in Florida. Thank you so much. 486 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 5: We'll see you at training camp when I'll be talking 487 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 5: about the Ravens having a good twenty five season and feeling. 488 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 4: Great about it. 489 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: We'll remember this conversation there. 490 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, awesome, thanks man, Well. 491 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: Big thanks to Mike. 492 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: And as you heard there, Cliff, I mean he talks 493 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: about the stability of the organization a lot of similar 494 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: themes to what we just had the conversation with Judy 495 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: there in terms of the stability of the organization, in 496 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: terms of horrball, and his leadership for this team in 497 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: terms of Lamar And I think that like the belief 498 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: and when you talk to different people around in the 499 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: media here, everyone's kind of saying the same thing. The 500 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: Ravens are expected to be a team that's right back 501 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: in the middle of this AFC playoff race, and the 502 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: question will be how you get over the hump and 503 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: how you define that and how you do that. No 504 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: one has like the magic answer for that, But the 505 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: Ravens are going to be in the mix. That's what 506 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: everyone thinks. 507 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 3: Right And also you know the fact that you can 508 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 3: keep doing that a year after year after year. I 509 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: think one thing to keep in mind is that you 510 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: cannot let whether you actually win the Super Bowl or 511 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: not carry over into the next year. It's a hard 512 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: thing to do, but I think the Ravens have been 513 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: very good at that that. Putting the last season behind them. 514 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: There's going to be a lot of talk about how 515 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: last season ended and how the Ravens are still on 516 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: that Super Bowl quest with Lamar. But every year is 517 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: so different and you have to approach it the same way. 518 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 3: And I was really impressed last year with the Ravens 519 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: after they started zero to two, how they responded that, 520 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: to me, showed a lot. How the defense responded late 521 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: in the season when it struggled early showed me a lot. 522 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 4: That is resiliency. 523 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: You have to have that if you're going to ultimately 524 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 3: win a championship. So the Ravens are going to come 525 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 3: into I believe, this season with just as much fire 526 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: and passion despite the disappoint any last year as they've 527 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: had any other year, and they obviously have the talent 528 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: to do it, so just a question to putting it together, 529 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 3: playing your foot best football when it matters most. But 530 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: you can't overlook the regular season first. I don't think 531 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 3: the Ravens are going to do. 532 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: That now before we wrap today. Another big part of 533 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: these meetings are a business side of things, So of 534 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: course we focus on the football aspect of things, but 535 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: there's also the business side of things as well, and 536 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: one of the items that was announced this week is 537 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: that the Ravens have entered the NFL's Global Markets Program 538 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: for UK and so basically what that means is the 539 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: Ravens have marketing rights in the UK. It doesn't mean 540 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: that the Ravens are going to be playing there every 541 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: year or playing there more. But of course the NFL 542 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: is also talked about expanding the number of international games, 543 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: so there could be an expansion on that front overall 544 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: league wide. But basically this allows the Ravens to build 545 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: off what they've been able to do on those previous 546 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: two trips to the UK. I was on those trips. 547 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: I've seen the enthusiasm in the UK. We have a 548 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: great fan group over there, the UK Ravens, who are 549 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: passionate about this team and bring energy when we go 550 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: over there. We've actually done we've done live podcasts over there, 551 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: which has been really cool. It's one of my favorite 552 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: things we've actually ever done on the lounge. And I 553 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: can tell you from being over there, you just see 554 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: like this excitement in this enthusiasm and this hardcore fandom 555 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: and it's it's really really cool. So that's a big 556 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: thing that we're excited about. 557 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to kick out of you know, the 558 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 3: trip to the lad trip to England that Lamar seemed 559 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: surprised that he had such a filew Yeah, internationally, but 560 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 3: he does the Ravens do. And it's clear clearly the 561 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: NFL fully intends to expand globally and this is just 562 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: part of that situation. I can envision a time not 563 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: too far in the future where you know, every team's 564 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 3: playing a game overseas at least, you know, once a year. 565 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: I can see that, you know, going to places they 566 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: haven't gone yet, and they're continuing to go to different places. 567 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: It's only going to expand the balls rolling in that direction. 568 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: It's great to the Ravens now being a team that 569 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: has star players and a consistent winner. That's the type 570 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: of team that's going to attract attention globally when these 571 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: trips are made. So yeah, it's just another indication that 572 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 3: the Ravens are going global. 573 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the game is growing, the NFL is growing, and 574 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: the Ravens are growing right there along with it. So 575 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: make sure you go ahead if you're if you're a 576 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: fan of the UK, make sure you follow us across 577 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: our new social media platforms and handles that we just 578 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: started up alongside part of this announcement on x on Instagram, 579 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: on Facebook. The handles are Ravens in UK, so make 580 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: sure you go ahead and check those out. We're gonna 581 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: have some fun content there that we're gonna be bringing 582 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: to you all throughout the year, so make sure you're 583 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: a gaining to follow those Ravens in UK. That's it 584 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: for us on the podcast here today. Thank you so 585 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: much for watching and listening. You can email us at 586 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net and we 587 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: will be back with you again tomorrow