1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. We'll driving the Cred episode three 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: eighty two. Kind of a weird show because twelve hours 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: ago the show was gonna be vast majority football. Ten 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: hours ago, the show was gonna be vast majority Holy shit, 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: what did Victor Winmanyama just do? And thirty minutes ago 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: it changed to this breaking news about Terry Rogier, Damon Jones, 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: and Chauncey Billups, rigged poker games, prop bet fixing and 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: all of that. And I am I am stunned by 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: the allegations here on one's front side of it. I'm 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: not stunned at all by the allegations on a different 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: side of it. And I'm gonna try to unpack it 12 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: because I actually we just had I think it's I 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: want to get the guy's name right. What us attorney 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: Joe Junior talk about high dollar poker games in Manhattan, 15 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: the Hamptons in Vegas, and my ears perked up when 16 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: they talked about what was going on. So I think 17 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: I can oddly give you some real insight here on now. 18 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Listen credit to Pablo Torri who, when it comes to 19 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: the Terry Rogier prop betting, all that stuff, he's been 20 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: all over it. The poker stuff, on the other hand, 21 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: is jarring. And well, I'll explain, but I wanna this 22 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: is all like happening in real time. They're literally doing 23 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: a press conference as we speak. I was watching it 24 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: right before we went on the air, and so we'll 25 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: get into all that. I wanna demand. Welcome in. This 26 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: is gonna be a weird show for you, but it's 27 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: no problem. We'll get to football and we'll get to 28 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: our picks in a bit and we'll talk. Uh Wimby, 29 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: let me get to straight to voicemail. Brought to you 30 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: by boost Mobile, and this show is always brought to 31 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: you by our friends of boost Mobile. Uh Megan the 32 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Stallion Sports Oh so funny. Klay Thompson. Labooba la boo boo, 33 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: la boo. I think it's lab boo boo. Guys, I 34 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: don't think it's a A. I think it's la boo boo. 35 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: I also had never seen a la boo boo in 36 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: my life in person until last night when your big 37 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: sister sent your little sister, not your bit, your old 38 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: the oldest, but your oldest oldest sister sent your youngest 39 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: sister what is almost assuredly a knockoff fake La Boo 40 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Boo for her birthday, and she was very excited. Uh. 41 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey uh trying to help out six Flags and 42 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy with what is pretty clearly a soft pinching. 43 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: Uh still out on Thursday night football. Okay, so here's 44 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: what we know now. I'm going to tell you I 45 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: have a healthy skepticism of the way the way media 46 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: typically reports arrests and news is what law enforcement sources 47 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: tell the media they treat as gospel. I try not 48 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: to do that, Okay, that is that's you. No matter 49 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: whether it's local cops, the Feds, no matter who's in 50 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: charge of the DOJ. I always feel like the slanting 51 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: it's unfair to the accused. And so I am not. 52 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: And so I read all these stories with I come 53 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: into come into it with some skepticism. I had even 54 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: more when I saw the ABC News headline from the 55 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: when this story first broke and it said Portland Trailblazer's 56 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: head coach has been charged in the illegal poker operation 57 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: tied to the law enforcements. Versus told ABC News, and 58 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: that's because the mafia is not like and they even 59 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: capitalize mafia a specific entity like there is organized crime, 60 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: and the Mafia is known as like Italian organized crime, 61 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: but I've never seen like in a real news article 62 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: the Mafia be used as as if it were a 63 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: specific entity. So I initially was here's what I thought 64 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: this news was going to be when I saw it, 65 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Terry Rosier, There's been a lot of smoke, and Pablotory 66 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: has done a good job around that story for the 67 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: last year. That ah, some of his player prop bets 68 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: sure seem fishy and there's fishy action on them, and 69 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: we talked about the fact that it'd be it's very 70 00:04:53,600 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: easy for guys to try to make their friends or 71 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: themselves ten twenty grand on these individual player props, and 72 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: clearly some guys have not been able to resist the temptation. 73 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: That's what I assumed the FEDS were arresting Terry Rogier 74 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: for I didn't know what Damon jones necessary involvement was, 75 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: except for the fact that he had been a coach, 76 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: so maybe would have inside information on hey, this guy's 77 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: not gonna play or this guy's dinged up. I also, 78 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: full disclosure, have known Damon Jones for more than ten years. 79 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: I like Damon Jones and I was sad to see 80 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: his name in this. When I saw there was Chauncey 81 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: was being charged in the illegal poker operation, my initial 82 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: thought process was, a man, they're really going after these 83 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: illegally raked poker games. Because we saw Gilbert get himmed 84 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: up by the FEDS about some thing, what I thought 85 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: was similar. So before I get to the actual details here, 86 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: because I really want the audience to understand this. It 87 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: is not that I know it's gonna sound I'm gonna 88 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: sound like I'm giving myself a pass here or something, 89 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: but I want to be very clear. The card games 90 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: that I play in are totally legal. And it's not 91 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: because they're in Vegas. Those obviously are. Those are in 92 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: regulated casinos. And it's not because they're not for you know, 93 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: a ton of money, because sometimes they are. The way 94 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: it works is this, and I want to put demons 95 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: on the screen because I want to make sure he 96 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: understands it. Because if he understands, everyone understand it. I 97 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: am allowed to have no I mean when I that 98 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: wasn't an insult on your intelligence. I just meant because 99 00:06:54,680 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: you're not a poker player like you're you are. If 100 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: I were to say, hey, I am hosting a poker 101 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: night at my house for friends, family, or even just hey, 102 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: join my poker club and come play. We could play 103 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: for ten dollars a person, one hundred dollars a person, 104 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: or a million dollars a person, and that is legal. 105 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: That is legal as long as the house, the host, 106 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: the person putting it on is not taking a cut 107 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: of the money. So do you understand. So, like if 108 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: we if I invited seven guys over and everybody brought 109 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: ten grand with them, so there's eighty thousand dollars involved. 110 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: As long as at the end of the night, when 111 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you you know you lost your tin. 112 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: You lost your tin, he won tenny. As long as 113 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: everyone the net net of what everyone came with they 114 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: leave with collectively, that's legal. It's not legal if it's like, hey, 115 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: since I'm hosting the game, every hand, I'm gonna take 116 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: twenty dollars out of the pot and drop it in 117 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: this little box here, and at the end of the 118 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: night the house has made two grand. That's what makes 119 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: That's the line that makes poker games legal or illegal. 120 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: Is the house taking a cut? Okay, It's as simple 121 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: as that. So when I was on with Lovetard last 122 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: week talking about that huge card game I was going 123 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: to that was a bunch of guys who've been playing 124 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: with each other forever. And there is no there is 125 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: no rake. That's called the rake. Taking money is the rake. Okay. 126 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: So Gilbert got in trouble because they were hosting up again. 127 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: He had rented a house that was being used according 128 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: to the FEDS for it was basically an illegal casino 129 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: because the house became not only where the card games were, 130 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: but that they were probably taking in rake taking the money, 131 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: and that rake can be huge, like ten twenty thousand 132 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: a night in rake and money off the table. Okay. 133 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: So that is that that's the distinction between private, legal 134 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: and illegal poker. When I saw the Chauncey thing, I'm like, man, 135 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe they're going after this, these illegal card games, 136 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: because that is pretty prevalent, the idea of hey, we're 137 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: gonna do a private game, but a person who's hosting 138 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: it those things, he's gonna they're gonna take a cutter. 139 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: That's their business. That we we one of how do 140 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: I put this? Someone you know really well, don't That 141 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: is one of my buddies that is his business. He 142 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: hosts all you know, a weekly or semi weekly game 143 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: and that, and so those are those are illegal technically, 144 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: but usually people like as long as there's no drugs, 145 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: there's no violence, no anything, people don't mess with them. Okay, 146 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: yeah that is not though. What the feds are alleging. 147 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: Chauncey was a part of what the feds are alleging 148 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: is that the end this, if this is true, this 149 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: is for me, as someone who plays in real card games, 150 00:10:53,920 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: this is a cardinal sin. They're alleging these were games 151 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: that they had rigged shufflers, that they had rigged rfi 152 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: D devices which allowed people to know what cards other 153 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: people had, That they had rigged communication devices like tiny earpieces, 154 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: and that folks were like, hey, seat six has kings 155 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: and aces coming on the turn, get your money if 156 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: that go ahead? 157 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was wondering, like, how does this type of 158 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 2: information get out? Is somebody getting bamboozled and they'd speak 159 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: out to the fence because I was thinking like, wow, 160 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: whose benefit would it be? 161 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean yeah, or somebody. Yeah, I mean 162 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of Yeah, there's a bunch of ways 163 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: this could happen. Somebody gets in trouble and then they're like, hey, 164 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: let me out of trouble. I'll tell you about something bigger. 165 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: Somebody is in the game and thinks they've been cheated 166 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: and then decides to kind of go on their own 167 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: and investigate it or whatever it is. But the allegation 168 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: here is organized crime recruited Chauncey to be the draw. 169 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, come to the Hamptons, come to New 170 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: York whatever, and play. We've got a card game. Chauncey 171 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Billups plays in that, and then they bring in people 172 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: with a bunch of money that they are then stealing from. 173 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Now again, I have so much respect for Chauncey Billups, 174 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: and he has earned to me so much of the 175 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt that what I would like to 176 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: believe here is that he had no idea. He thought 177 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: he was playing in a poker game on the level. 178 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: But they you know that they were rigged games. What 179 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: the insight I can give the audience is this one 180 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: of the reasons folks take the time and effort to 181 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: travel all the way to Las Vegas to play in 182 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: card games. The reason I unless I'm going to one 183 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: of my two buddies places that I've known for a 184 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: long time. In trust go all the way to Philadelphia 185 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: is there's You're always worried that it's not on the level. 186 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: You're worried that someone's dealing from the bottom of the deck. 187 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: You're worried that guys are colluding. You're worried that you 188 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: might get cheated. That is always a concern in I 189 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: had a buddy I don't want to give again give 190 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: too many details here, but one of the greatest in 191 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: my opinion, card players in the world, who is a 192 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: man of intense, intense honor. UH played got cheated out 193 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: of in one game, got cheated out of three quarters 194 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: of a million dollars and was able to retroactively prove 195 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: that they were doing stuff like this, that that it 196 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: was the card you had card readers. You know you 197 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: guys were cheating you. The whole poker game existed to 198 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: cheat me out of my three quarters of a million 199 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: dollars and UH refused to refuse to pay it. And 200 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: then it became a real, like dangerous situation. Like so 201 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: that there is a level of protect yourself at all times. 202 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: You know this stuff could be happening in the high 203 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: stakes poker world. It is utterly jarring to me that 204 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: the FEDS are alleging that Chauncey knew these games were 205 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: rigged and was playing in them anyway, because that to 206 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: me that if that's true, that's stone cold theft. That 207 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: is that there is no wiggle room around it. If 208 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: you are if you are inviting people to come play 209 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: in a card game that you know they can't win 210 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: because other people in the game are going to know 211 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: what cards they have and play accordingly. I that's real, 212 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: dirty man. And now again I don't want to believe it. 213 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: And in fairness, during this press conference, one of the 214 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: people talking one of the FEDS did say this involves 215 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: the NBA team, the Toronto Rangers, so they might not 216 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: be totally buttoned up, but uh, these are uh shocking allegations. 217 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: Chauncey. 218 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, Chauncey is considered one of the best 219 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: guys in one of the best people associated with the league. 220 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: And again, if it were he was just playing in 221 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: a card game where they took a rake, I would 222 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: I was prepared to get on here and say this 223 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: is an absolute nothing burger, like there are there's that 224 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: there is not only is that barely illegal. It is apps. 225 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: There is no ethical for me issue with it. Like there, 226 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: it's simply saying I'm playing. 227 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: In a people games. 228 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: Everybody, right, we're all saying we'll pay this percentage now 229 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: where that can. And really the only reason the government 230 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: typically cares about those things is because nobody's paying taxes 231 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: on it, because the it's like the nobody's like paying 232 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: right exactly and so but you again, you are allowed 233 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: to play high stakes private poker games as long as 234 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: like helm Youth talks about it all the time. Helmuth 235 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: plays for tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars at 236 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: it at his own house in the Bay Area with 237 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: a bunch of the Silicon Valley guys. But you just 238 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: have to report your wins as gambling winnings on your 239 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: taxes and pay taxes and help you doesn't take a 240 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: vic or you know, doesn't take a raak. But haven't 241 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: And they I watched the press conference Demanse. They have 242 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: a picture of a what they say is a rigged shuffler. 243 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: They have a picture of a computer that is reading 244 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: out the cards everyone has. 245 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: I mean, they they raided the place and found all 246 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: like the paras. 247 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: Seems like it man, And oh boy, I really thought 248 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: we were gonna start today talking NBA. I didn't think 249 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: it was gonna be that. I want to let me 250 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: just see one more thing. So but oh the I 251 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: don't know if I finished my sentence before before it 252 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: gets to wimby that. Maybe I did, so maybe I'm 253 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: repeating myself. 254 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 255 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: But this is why people some people prefer to do 256 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: all of their poker playing in a casino because a 257 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: casino is taking a rake. It's much smaller usually than 258 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: the private game rake, but it's on the level. Like 259 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: the cheating that can happen in a casino is two 260 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: of guys at the table communicating to each other. That's 261 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: called colluding, like hey, you raise all re raise and 262 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: then this guy will fold like that. That is that's 263 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: that's one level of cheating. But you don't have to 264 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: typically at a casino. Worry, Wait does are Is this 265 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: a setup via shuffler? And a setup via shuffler would 266 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: be to give people an example, you have one hundred 267 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in front of you. I've got one hundred 268 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in front of me. They intentionally give you 269 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: pocket aces and give me pocket queens. I go all 270 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: in preflop. You have the best hand, you have no 271 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: t but to call, and then a queen comes and 272 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, eighty twenty unlucky. Like setting hands 273 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: up like that is stealing? All right? Crazy? I am. 274 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: I am super interested in this story. I don't know 275 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: if the audience is. Let me say one other thing 276 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: on because everyone else is gonna be for more folks 277 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: on the rosier piece of it. And I say this 278 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: understanding that a huge portion of our economy in my 279 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: business is paid for by the gambling operators. Right we are, 280 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: We are proud partners with hard Rock Bet and with that, 281 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: But despite that, I I don't even think it's despite that. 282 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: I regardless of who our sponsors are, I have to 283 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: I owe the audience full transparency and honesty. And here 284 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: is what I am going to say about the rogier thing. 285 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: As long as player props are a big part of 286 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: legal sports gambling, this stuff is gonna pop up. It 287 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: just is. And there here is the the two sides 288 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: of the legal sports gambling coin. Okay, the pro legal 289 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: sports gambling coin is because gambling is legal and regulated 290 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: and you know you there is a real catalog of 291 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: bets and archive and data you can you can more 292 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: easily find, prove and root out the guys doing you know, 293 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: essentially insider training. Okay, that that if it was just 294 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: all off you know, bookies and in the shadows, it's 295 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: harder to find or prove who's doing this stuff. That's 296 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: the pro side, if I'm being fair. The conside to 297 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: it is this absent legal sports gambling when it was 298 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: all through bookies. Such a thing as how many assists 299 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: is Terry Rozier gonna get tonight? Was not a bet 300 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: that existed. You couldn't call up the guy you have 301 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: drinks with at the bar and be like, I know, 302 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: I usually just bet the packers every weekend, but I 303 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: got a real good feeling Terry Rozier is gonna get 304 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: more than four and a half rebounds? Will you give 305 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: me ten grand on it? So like that, Yes it is, 306 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: we can see it better. But it also created markets 307 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: that otherwise didn't exist. And so all right, the let's 308 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: get to NBA opening. In fact, you know what, before 309 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: we get to Wimby, I want to tell you guys 310 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: about Wayfair. 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Is it possible that this guy is 347 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 2: already the best player in the league. 348 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. Demand's a no no shame 349 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: in not catching it live. 350 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was watching VJ. Edgecombe welcome himself to 351 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: the Oh. 352 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: You were watching so you were watching a different game. 353 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching Celtics. 354 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: Okay, oh that's I thought. I assumed you meant you were. 355 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: Oh good for you, buddy. Yeah, yeah, that's a VJ 356 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: Edgecombe all time record for points in a debut, all 357 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: time record. And the Sixers won that game despite Embeid's scoring. 358 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: And being a no show. Yeah, no show. 359 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: And the and the second almost got bad. 360 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: For VJ with him missing those two free throws, and 361 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: the Celtics could have pulled through. That would have been 362 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: that would. 363 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Max see our guy Maxey had forty, but 364 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: someone else had forty and he's a seven foot five problem. 365 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: So I I was a gog at what I saw 366 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: last night from Victor WindMan Yama. So he is the 367 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: best defensive player in basketball. We knew that was going 368 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: to be the case. And he had three blocks, but 369 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't really explain it because he just dissuaded so 370 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: much action because of his length that I don't know 371 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: what the advanced stat is for, like shots not taken 372 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: because you're scared this guy's gonna swat it into the 373 00:26:52,720 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: first row, but he crushes in that. So we had 374 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: So here's a good comp we had on the show yesterday. 375 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: A Keem Olajuan all right, and a Keem was never 376 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: the best offensive player in the league. But there was 377 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: a two year period when Jordan was a year and 378 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: a half when Jordan was retired, and those two years 379 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: when a Keem was the best player in the league 380 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: because he was far and away the best defensive player, 381 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 1: and those couple of years probably like the fifth or 382 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: sixth best offensive player, and those two things can combine 383 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: to make you the best player. He usually goes in 384 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: the other direction, the best player in the league. Joker 385 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: is far and away the best offensive player and then 386 00:27:54,280 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: just average defensive. And you deal with you know, it's 387 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: very rare you get prime. I shouldn't say it's very rare. 388 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: It's just special prime Giannis, prime, Bron prime Jordan, prime, 389 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: Kobe Kawido. Also, I think was never the best offensive player. Yeah, 390 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about a guy who can win the scoring 391 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: title while being the best defender in the league. Right, 392 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: it's only a handful of guys if Wimby's gonna give 393 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: you forty. Let me put it like this, here's why 394 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: it's so scary. Demanza and I loved that he only 395 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: took two threes, that he is stronger his handles better. 396 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: I think Wimby. If Wimby averages twenty five points a game, 397 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: he might be the best player in the league like 398 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: that because of what he is defensively and if he's 399 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: gonna put up thirty. I I'm sorry to joke and 400 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to shave, but I just I am. I'm 401 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: ready to have the conversation that this guy might just 402 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: be the best, like the best player in the league. 403 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: You're a little skeptical of Wimby in the beginning, Well, 404 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: here's what I like it was. It was probably more 405 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: on the injury. 406 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: It was two things. It was two things. One was 407 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: the injury stuff, which still anybody that size it worries me. 408 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: But that's about it was my skepticism on Wimby. I 409 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: guess was here were the three different levels of it. 410 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: I think it was him shooting to. 411 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: Yes, so I didn't like the style he was playing 412 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: to me, he was trying to be Durant, and it's like, bro, 413 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: you're a half foot taller than Durant and Durant is 414 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: one of the greatest pure shooters ever. You're like the 415 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: So I didn't love that. The injuries potential concerned me 416 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: because literally every player in the history of the league 417 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: seven four are taller has dealt with injuries, and I 418 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: don't consider the blood clot an injury. I do, though, 419 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: I I'm gonna sound. 420 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: Really dumb, it's an ailment. I feel like that they're 421 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: more prone to though, just because they're a larger guy. 422 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: So that's all I was about to say that exact 423 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: same thing. I was like, maybe this is dumb. Maybe 424 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: a doctor's listening is like, that's not how that works. 425 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: But in my head, that's how it works. It's like, 426 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's more, there's more error, there's more 427 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: just mileage for there to be clots, like I don't know. 428 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: But so that part, and then the other part was 429 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: I just thought we were setting him up to be 430 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: a disappointment by saying if he's not better than a 431 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: chem Olajuan, he's underachieved. I'm like, jeez, Louise Man, like 432 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: he walks into the league and it's if you're not 433 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: one of the ten greatest players of all time, you 434 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: you have failed. With that said, I mean, I kind 435 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: of get it. I mean, this is special, this is 436 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: really really special, and I don't know what you're gonna 437 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: do with him, and it does. He has become after 438 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: one game Demanse must watch every night, and it makes 439 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: me at least. 440 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's that too, but they're left with a phenom. 441 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, but also and so a couple things. It 442 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: makes me take the Spurs seriously. I mean, they obviously 443 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: didn't even have Fox and they beat the MAVs. Bike yeah, 444 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: and well, so that's the other piece of it. If 445 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: you were to ask me going into yesterday, okay, if 446 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: you are if you can have any player in the 447 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: league to try to slow down Wimby on the defensive end, 448 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: who is your number one draft pick? It would have 449 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: been a d Like that's the other problem, Like the 450 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: is there anyone in the league demands a better in 451 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: theory equipped to deal with Wimby? 452 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: My big man on the Celtics who I think his 453 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: last name is Vet? 454 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't I don't know who you're talking about. 455 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: And you're being ridiculous. There is the the I mean, 456 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: maybe you're not the I don't. Hold on, let me see. 457 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: No, nobody's guarding the man. Nobody. He's a freak of nature. 458 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: Hold on, who are you talking about? Okay, yeah, okay, 459 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: you were silly. Uh No, I'm just saying, like a 460 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: d is seven feet can play on the perimeter, can 461 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: play down low. It has been one of the best 462 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: defenders and Wimby made him look silly. I don't so so, 463 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: Like who is the Spurs? What's the Spurs next game? 464 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: So the Spurs next game is? Their next three games 465 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 1: are New Orleans, Brooklyn, Toronto. The hell's anybody gonna do? Like, 466 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: who on New Orleans is gonna be? Like, it's Trey 467 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: Murphy it, I don't think New Orleans. I guess me, Si, 468 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, this is so I do think. 469 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: I do think Demonte it's on the board that he's 470 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: the best player in the league this year, and that 471 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: would be. 472 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: And his mind is right too, Like I just don't 473 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 2: see It's like he's gonna do everything possible to stay afloat. 474 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: I see him taking care of his body, take care 475 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: of himself in the offseason. 476 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we haven't had a guy be in the 477 00:34:53,960 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: argument for there's only been I just want to make 478 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: sure I get this right. The only no one since 479 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: Bron has had a real argument that they were the 480 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: best player in the league in year three. Like Bron 481 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: in year three was second in MVP voting. He had 482 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: a real argument. Tim Duncan in year three might have 483 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: been the best player in the league, but he was 484 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: a four year college player. Shack in year three was 485 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: I think, let me, I want to see if I 486 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: have this, had an argument. He was second in MVP 487 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: voting and Jordan was retired and they made the finals 488 00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: but lost to a team those are best player in 489 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: the league argument. By year three, it's just the holy 490 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: grail of NBA guys, really and this is this is 491 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: something else. This is really really something else. I'm amazed 492 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: by it, and I I I'm lost of words. I 493 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: didn't understand what I was watching last night. And we'll 494 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: see how it continues. Oh wow, what's the MVP hnds. 495 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he climbed the top two in MVP odds 496 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: at plus two seventy five. Oh, he was around plus 497 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: twelve hundred in the preseason. So do you see you 498 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: see after these three three games him potentially being the favorite? 499 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: I mean I don't see. 500 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean maybe here's the thing. The thing is this, 501 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: I just in principle, if yesterday I could have gotten 502 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: a bet at twelve to one, I can't bet it 503 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: today at less than three to one. 504 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: But and I feel like there's a lot of those 505 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 2: tickets out there. I feel like the twelve MVP plus Yeah, 506 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 2: I feel like there's a lot of those out there. 507 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And I would have told you. I would 508 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: have told you one day ago those are dumb tickets, 509 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: just because I would have said, you know, the Spurs 510 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: seal he's coming off an injury, he might not play 511 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: enough games, and the it's so hard to win MVP 512 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: if you're not a top three seed, and you know 513 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: how many games are the Spurs really gonna win? All right? 514 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: And by the way, I so I apologize for the producers, 515 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: but this is I suppose kind of the cost of 516 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: breaking news and stuff, we might this might actually just 517 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: be an NBA show today, and then we do all 518 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: our football stuff for the gambling show. So I know 519 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: that's a lot of work everybody put into preparing the 520 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: football stuff. But I think that this is more relevant 521 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: and I would like to remind you guys. 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All right, demon's let's get to the actual 558 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: opening eye of the NBA two nights ago with a 559 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: classic and a concerning game. 560 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: A couple of nights ago, we got to see how 561 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: Katie's looking with those rockets against the thunder. They ended 562 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 2: up not being able to pull out the wind and 563 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 2: double o se Lakers faced Golden State Golden State came 564 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 2: out victorious, but you've seen down on both of those teams. 565 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: Why is that? 566 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's we'll do Lakers Warriors, then we'll do 567 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: Rockets Thunder. Okay, So I watched the Lakers and Luca 568 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: was obviously awesome, and I was like, yeah, so when 569 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: Lebron comes back, you know what they need from Lebron 570 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: for him to be their best perimeter defender. And that 571 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: seems like a bad process for a guy who's gonna 572 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: be forty one in year twenty three, because I look 573 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: at the Lakers roster and I'm like, well, they don't 574 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: have a ton of shooting and they don't really have 575 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: any defense. Not sure how that's going to work in 576 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 1: the modern NBA, even with a guy as great as Luca, 577 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: and even when Bron comes back, so that I just 578 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: think it's a for the modern league and oddly constructed roster. 579 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 1: It's very like this is about Lua, not about Bron. 580 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: It's very clear how to win with Luca. Get shooters 581 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: and defenders and let him handle the entirety of the 582 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: rest of the offense. It feels like the Lakers have 583 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: none of that, and it's just like Jared Vanderbilt guard 584 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: everyone Marcus Smart, God love him, is just not even 585 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: close to the same guy. And so it also reminds 586 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: you what a yeoman's effort Anthony Davis was making on 587 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: that side of the ball, kind of carrying the entirety 588 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: of that defense. So it just it was I just 589 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: think that that is a really clumsily put together roster. 590 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: And you know that I was not as high as 591 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 1: some on oh this will be the year DeAndre Ayton 592 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: takes it serious. I just don't think that guy is 593 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: a winning player. And I so and I was also bummed. 594 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: This was a crazy stat I had, uh yesterday, what 595 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: what is the marquee date demands on the NBA regular 596 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: season calendar? Historically like the holiday where a lot of 597 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: people look at it kind of the start of the season. 598 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: That Christmas. Yeah, Christmas. The NFL's kind of tried to 599 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 1: steal their corner, but the NBA made Christmas their holiday. 600 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: So for the NBA in the regular season, there's Opening Night, 601 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: which is a big, you know, celebration, the unofficial opening 602 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: Night Christmas, and then there's obviously the postseason. Lebron James t. 603 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: Tames prior to two days ago, had played in in 604 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: his career three hundred and thirty two opening nights, Christmases 605 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: and playoff games, and Lebron James had played in all 606 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty two of them. He had never 607 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,280 Speaker 1: missed any of his two hundred and eighty two career 608 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: playoff games, any of his twenty two opening nights, or 609 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: any of the eighteen it's actually nineteen Christmas Day games. 610 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: And you might say, if you're doing the math in 611 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: your head, that adds up to three hundred and thirty three. 612 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: But that's because one of the COVID year's opening night 613 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: was Christmas. He's never missed a marquee moment in his career, 614 00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: and then he missed this one, and I was just 615 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: like it was another piece of evidence of man, it's 616 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: not a lot of time left here. Yeah, it's just 617 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: a bummer, you know what I mean? Just a bummer, 618 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 1: uh in that regard and so and the other bummer 619 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: is he's he's not gonna fix what's wrong with the Lakers. 620 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: So I think when you have Luca, you're going to 621 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: be Luca guarant should guarantee a healthy Luca should guarantee 622 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: you a playoff spot. Luca plus Brown plus Austin Reeves 623 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: plus what should be a pretty sharp coach in uh 624 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: Reddick should make you frisky. But I don't think that 625 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: roster is well rounded enough. On the Warriors, I just 626 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 1: think they're too old and the they don't have a 627 00:45:54,080 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: a you know right now, Lakers Warriors. I don't even 628 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: think it's a debate. The best player between the two 629 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 1: teams is Luca and he's ten years younger than Steph. 630 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: So I just don't think the Warriors have the legs 631 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: for hunting him. Yeah, I just yeah, So I just 632 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: think the Warriors that was a good win for them. 633 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: I just don't take them real serious as a contender. 634 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: Now to the Rockets Thunder something you wanted to. 635 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 2: Say, uh oh, yeah, you didn't. You didn't like the Wait, 636 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 2: did you want me to get into that. You didn't 637 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 2: like how the fans reacted to Kevin Durant. Yes, So 638 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 2: coming back to okay. 639 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 1: See it is that so much that I didn't like it? 640 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 2: And they cheered Steven Adams right before it was that 641 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,240 Speaker 2: there at the same time. 642 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:54,240 Speaker 1: So here's my question, Man, is Durant going to finish 643 00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: unless they win the title in Houston? Is he going 644 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: to be the first all time great player to retire 645 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: without a home, like if you if if, if you 646 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: say bron it's the the Calves and Cleveland will love 647 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: him forever. You know, Lakers some yes, some know, Miami 648 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 1: mostly yes, some know, but the Calves, like will love 649 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: him forever. Jordan obviously it's the Bulls. Kareem obviously it's 650 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: the Lakers. Magic is the Lakers, Duncan is the Spurs. 651 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: Those guys are one team guys. But you know, Kobe 652 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: is Lakers. But even the guys who moved like Kevin 653 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 1: Garnett has two cities that adore him Minnesota, Minneapolis with 654 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: the Timberwolves and the Celtic Barkley. He's not an all 655 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: time again no, but I mean he's a great player. 656 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 1: Ro I'm talking about like top top you know. Berkley 657 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: is still beloved in Phoenix. D Wade is obviously always 658 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: going to be beloved in uh Miami. Moses Malone is 659 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: beloved in Philly. If Oklahoma City Demons after winning a title, 660 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: is still mad at Durant when he retires, where does 661 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 1: he go and get universal love? It doesn't feel like 662 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: it's Golden State. It's certainly not Phoenix. Or Brooklyn and 663 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City's booing him like I. 664 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 2: Think they love him. I think they're just you know, 665 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 2: they're they're bowling, they're talking their mess. I think, I 666 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 2: honestly think that when he retires that he'll he'll get 667 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 2: love from Okay. See, I don't know if they think 668 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 2: of it, but I don't. I don't know, But yeah, 669 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: they did just win a title. Like the other crazy 670 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 2: nine years Adams. 671 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: They booed Durrant on ring night. You guys want a title. 672 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 2: Like Durant did a lot for y'all. Durrant did a 673 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 2: did a lot for y'all while he was there. 674 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: I think he I think he deserves a statue there 675 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: like So that that did make me sad, and I 676 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,240 Speaker 1: don't think And by the way, he didn't demand a trade. 677 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: He didn't blow your team up, He didn't quit on anybody. 678 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: He hit free agency and left, like wouldn't Harden the 679 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: first one to go home? But no, they traded away 680 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: hardened hard Harden was like an. 681 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 2: He couldn't get his contract figure, but that was he 682 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 2: didn't and so that you know the but they love 683 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 2: Russ It's just I don't know. 684 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: That made me sad. Okase, he's obviously awesome. I think 685 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: Durant will be better than he was opening night. Dort 686 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: gives a lot of people trouble and Shingoon man watch 687 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: out for Shingoon, Uh, I mean Shingoon looks great and 688 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 1: shout out to Wilds on that. I still I feel 689 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: like the Fred van Vliet injury for the Rockets is 690 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: really tough, but I really do like that team, and 691 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: I think Durant's gonna be excellent. Daniel says maybe Seattle 692 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: will claim Durant when they get a team. I don't know. 693 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: I hope. So just made me sad and maybe it 694 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't have, but it just made me sad. Hey, are 695 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: you thinking about an upgrading the all new iPhone seventeen pro? 696 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: Is that going to the most powerful iPhone ever? 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Terms do apply. 705 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the listener questions. 706 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 2: Demanse Sean says, Hey, Nick, saw you in Costa Rica 707 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 2: in early March twenty twenty two. You were standing outside 708 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: of a store. I didn't want to bother you on 709 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 2: your vacation. Are you cool people saying hi to you? 710 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, the show of course. The I mean, that's 711 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: what a callback that March of twenty two. 712 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,760 Speaker 2: I was in Costa Rica. 713 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,640 Speaker 1: That is true, but yeah, of course, yeah, the only 714 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: I had a guy, So yes, the ninety two percent 715 00:51:51,920 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: of the time, it's great. And Saturday night, demanse I'm 716 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: out with your mom and her sisters in Harlem at 717 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 1: a bar club whatever, loud, packed and this guy's like, yo, 718 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 1: you're Nick, right, And I'm like and I'm like yeah, man, 719 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: And I go to shake his hand and we but 720 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: again it's packed. We are six inches from each other, 721 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: and he says with a smile, he's like, yo, man, 722 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 1: I effing hate you, bro. And I was like, okay, 723 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: but it was such a weird spot because I couldn't move. 724 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 1: I then I am now I'm waiting to standing there 725 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: almost touching shoulders with this guy who is now like 726 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: still trying to talk to me, and he's like, no, 727 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: it's not like that. But I'm like, buddy, this is 728 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: that's just not a greeting. 729 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 2: That's not a greeting that he drinks in. 730 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's true. But no in general, So Sean, 731 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: unless you were gonna be like, hey, I fing hate you, 732 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: it would have been fine. All right, let's get some 733 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: other listener questions. 734 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 2: Dustin was wondering what you thought of Katie called it 735 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 2: a time out when they didn't have any time out. 736 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: They got away with it. I mean, that was the 737 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: rest let him off the hook. That's that's tough one. 738 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 1: That's a really tough one. All right, Let's go to Monsieur. 739 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 2: Monsieur says Nick. All my friends say Herbert is better 740 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 2: than Burrow. I disagree. Over the next five years, what 741 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 2: quarterback would you rather have? I mean, you gotta say Herbert. 742 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 1: Why? 743 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I mean because he's available. 744 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: Okay, fair, I mean I guess that's Herbert. No, no, no, no, 745 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean if the answer is Burrows too much of 746 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: an injury risk, I mean that's a respectable but no, 747 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: that Burrows damaged goods. At this point, I just think 748 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 1: I think those are two different questions. Who he's saying. 749 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: My friends say Herbert's better than Burrow. Herbert definitively is 750 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: not better than Burrow. If you're saying, but you know, 751 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: who would you rather have over the next five years, 752 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: that to me does play in injury stuff. I'd still 753 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: rather have Burrow. For the record, Omar wants to know 754 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: why I haven't covered the Clippers debacle. Honestly, I just 755 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: think Pablo's and Mark Cuban have it covered and I 756 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: haven't been. I don't know why I haven't been as 757 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 1: interested in that as other people. I'm not that interested 758 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: in the Clippers. I'm not that interested in Kawhi. I'm 759 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: not I said they more money. Yeah, I mean, I'm 760 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 1: just I'm I'm just I'm not as I feel like 761 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 1: that story, while interesting to some is, I'm just not 762 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: super into all Right, gambling show tomorrow do a bunch 763 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: of NFL stuff. Reminder like rate subscribe review to the 764 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: show would help us out a lot. Thank you to 765 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 1: Blue Duck, thank you to Volume, and a shout out 766 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,760 Speaker 1: to all our great sponsors, hard Rock, Bet, Boost, Wayfair, 767 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: and our friends at Zen talk to you Yes tomorrow 768 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: with our week eight gambling show