WEBVTT - Dr. Harvey Karp Answers Your Questions

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<v Speaker 1>So Hi, everybody, Welcome to Katie's crib. We are talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Stay to Dr Harvey Carp. He is a pediatrician

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<v Speaker 1>and child development expert who's practiced pediatrics in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>for over twenty five years. He is the founder and

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of Happiest Baby, a smart tech and parenting solutions company,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dr carp is the author of three books, Happiest

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<v Speaker 1>Baby on the Block, Happiest Toddler on the Block, The

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<v Speaker 1>Happiest Baby Guide to Great Sleep, which is for the

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<v Speaker 1>first five years of life. It's such a weird title,

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<v Speaker 1>Happiest Baby Guy, but it's really for the first five years.

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<v Speaker 1>So sleep from from five yeah, yeah, wow, okay, um, Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for that purchase today. But just to start

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<v Speaker 1>us off, and just so I understand, yes, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a loss. Landel is filmed in that next room.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? Is this this? This is the main studio.

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<v Speaker 1>This is also a studio a lot. Now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one in my house and this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>room I usually at about five pm in this playroom,

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<v Speaker 1>Albie plays and I drink wine and then I invite

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<v Speaker 1>over other mommies that have babies or kids of any age.

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<v Speaker 1>And they literally tear the room apart while we doing wine.

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<v Speaker 1>Mother's juice, Yeah, mother's juice exactly. Can you tell us

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about yourself and what you do. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a pediatrician, and that's what I do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>for decades, I was the neighborhood doctor. And what happened

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<v Speaker 1>was I kind of observed some things that hadn't really

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<v Speaker 1>been written about before. I'm always interested in problems that

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been solved, and so I was interested. Babies cry,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would be told, oh, babies just cry, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you can do about it, or sleep babies they

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<v Speaker 1>don't sleep well in the beginning, and just suck it

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<v Speaker 1>up and deal with it and sooner or later we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get better or let them cry it out. And that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff never made sense to me. So um so long

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago. I came to realize that people in

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<v Speaker 1>other culture is much more successful at calming their babies.

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<v Speaker 1>You go to some some you know areas in the

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<v Speaker 1>world you never hear a crying baby, and and they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not like genetically different babies. I mean, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>parents doing different things. So that got me interested, and

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<v Speaker 1>I started to study that and then I did it

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<v Speaker 1>on thousands of babies to really perfect my techniques, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I wrote the Happiest Baby on the Block video,

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<v Speaker 1>And those five s is exactly right. The five s

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<v Speaker 1>is are literally like the most famous thing of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone knows, like in my group of friends, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lifesaver. Can you explain to people what the five

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<v Speaker 1>uses are for the fifty billion? Well? No, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I love it because it's just so empowering to parents.

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<v Speaker 1>So five us so well. The first key concept is

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<v Speaker 1>babies are not ready to be born after nine months.

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<v Speaker 1>Horses are ready. Cows are ready. They can run. A

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<v Speaker 1>horse doesn't get stuck by its head. It gets stuck

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<v Speaker 1>by the body. And the body is as strong as

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<v Speaker 1>it can be, so it can run that first day

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<v Speaker 1>because otherwise it'll get eaten exactly exactly our babies, and

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<v Speaker 1>we survived because of our noodles. And so the brain

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<v Speaker 1>is as big as it can be and still get

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<v Speaker 1>out and it's a tight fit. I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that. So um, and what happens I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of think of it like these James Bond movies. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>James Bond is on the motorcycle and he's rushing out

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<v Speaker 1>this underground parking lot and the metal door is coming down,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's rushing in. The door is coming down. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be locked in there. And at the last

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<v Speaker 1>second he puts the motorcycle down. No, he lies it

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground and slides underneath just as this thing

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<v Speaker 1>is closing. That's our baby's heads exactly so. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you miss that opportunity, then that's why we do ces

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<v Speaker 1>arean sections, and we're lucky we can do that because

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<v Speaker 1>like my wife's grandmother died, I mean, that wasn't that uncommon.

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<v Speaker 1>So because the head is so big and we get

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<v Speaker 1>out earlier than say other mammals do. We have this

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<v Speaker 1>thing called fourth trymester exactly right now where the baby

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<v Speaker 1>really should still sort of be mimicking the world in

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<v Speaker 1>which it was in the womb, because it feels unsafe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a huge transition, and this is why it's

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<v Speaker 1>so tough for new parents because the next four months

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<v Speaker 1>or five months, you are one big walking uterus. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean inside you're holding your baby NonStop. You're rocking every

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<v Speaker 1>time you breathe, and every time you walk, your baby

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<v Speaker 1>is being rocked and jiggled the sound is. Actually it is,

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<v Speaker 1>except babies are underwater, so when you're underwater, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>hear the high pitch. So it isn't that that they

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<v Speaker 1>hear what they hear and your voice and other things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but it's because they're underwater. Wow, So then

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<v Speaker 1>it's so shocking for them to be out. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>June Refuel, who is a wonderful actress and a dear

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<v Speaker 1>front of mine, she was on Katie's Crib the first

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<v Speaker 1>season and she said the first three months she calls

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<v Speaker 1>the dark days of your But basically why is because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is you are essentially still providing a wound

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<v Speaker 1>for your kid, but it's just now so full on

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to consciously carry them around, consciously make

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<v Speaker 1>those sounds, consciously make them feel safe close to you,

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<v Speaker 1>which is hard. But you're doing it fourteen hours a

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<v Speaker 1>day and you used to do the twenty four hours

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<v Speaker 1>a day. From the baby's point view, it's a rip off, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like whoa Bayton switch? And from our point of view,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, are you kidding me? This is NonStop? But

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<v Speaker 1>this is the big lie because today if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a nanny or a night nursey. You know, you're pretty

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<v Speaker 1>well off if you have two nanny's. I mean you're

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<v Speaker 1>like really well off. Who the hell has that? But

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<v Speaker 1>like what no? Okay, so I mean you don't have that. However,

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<v Speaker 1>up until a hundred years ago, everyone has five nanni's. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>your grandma, you're yeah, your extra neighbor's older daughter. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you held the baby for you? Okay? So, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the mother was babied as much as the baby was babied.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, in many cultures they have a hundred years,

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred days ceremony where for the first hundred days

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<v Speaker 1>you don't leave the house. You are taking care of.

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<v Speaker 1>You were bathed, you were fed, you were pampered first

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<v Speaker 1>forty days. But I didn't know the first hundred days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so many many Asian countries, guys, you hear it here

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<v Speaker 1>on Katie's Crib. First, can we start a sucking movement

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<v Speaker 1>called the first hundred days where the mom and the

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<v Speaker 1>baby are just totally taken care of for a hundred days, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>why can't that be happening? And you know, we just

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<v Speaker 1>came back from Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving, all you Katie's Crib

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<v Speaker 1>listeners and viewers, but there was a six week old

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<v Speaker 1>baby there, and I think she had a wonderful weekend

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<v Speaker 1>because every time the baby was like fussy or communicating,

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<v Speaker 1>the baby got passed around to grandma too great grandma,

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<v Speaker 1>to aunts, to uncles, two cousins, and so the baby

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<v Speaker 1>was always like I was getting new someone who had

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<v Speaker 1>energy when the mom is so tired, like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be holding the baby and I know the baby wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be held right now. No mother in history ever

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<v Speaker 1>did that. And women, this is one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that so upsetting to me because women are told, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you decide to have a baby, so this is your responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's your problem, and don't complain about it because

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to be a mom. Well I did want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a mom, but I do have to sleep also,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's different. Some people do fine without sleep, other

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<v Speaker 1>people it's total torture. Well, I understood for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time ever why sleep deprivation is a form of torture.

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<v Speaker 1>More times, I was like, if I got behind the

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<v Speaker 1>wheel of a car right now, I might drive off

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<v Speaker 1>a cliff that I can't do only four hours of sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I can for a week, but I can't do it

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<v Speaker 1>four weeks well, and even the four hours, it's broken

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<v Speaker 1>up in little pieces. It's not even continual sleep to

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<v Speaker 1>get as a new mom, and that makes it even Tougher.

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<v Speaker 1>Studies definitely show that if you get six hours or less,

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<v Speaker 1>you're essentially equivalent to a drunk person. You get into

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<v Speaker 1>car accidents the way drunk people can take constance. You

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<v Speaker 1>do you're kind of disoriented, and some people, again are

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<v Speaker 1>much more sensitive to that. It's not even six hours,

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<v Speaker 1>it's broken up little pieces of six hours. So the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth fourth just wanting to follow up this one point

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<v Speaker 1>about being drunk. Yeah, besides momagers, um we um. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a really serious issue because so many mothers accidentally or

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<v Speaker 1>intentionally fall asleep with the baby and and you'll read, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>in other cultures they do that and it encourages breastfeeding,

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<v Speaker 1>and and there's some truth to that. However, you would

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<v Speaker 1>never bring your baby in bed with you if you

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<v Speaker 1>were drunk, Well, why would you do it? If you're

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<v Speaker 1>so exhausted, you're the equivalent of drunk. And video studies

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<v Speaker 1>have been done that show that mothers, you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>not you just you think you have one eye open

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<v Speaker 1>all night long. But you own you're so tired that

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<v Speaker 1>you fall into a deep sleep and you can pull

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<v Speaker 1>the blankets. Over seventy almost four thousand babies die each

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<v Speaker 1>year in the United States in the first year of

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<v Speaker 1>life in their sleep. Of those babies die in bed

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<v Speaker 1>with their parents or in another unsafe place, like on

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<v Speaker 1>the sofa with their parents. Things like that. Terrible say

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<v Speaker 1>I did. It happened to us once when Albi was

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<v Speaker 1>really little, like maybe six weeks. I was so tired.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam went out for one thing for the night for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of hours, and I was I never took

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<v Speaker 1>him in bed with me. I always breastfed him in

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<v Speaker 1>a chair in his room, but I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to try it, and I breastfed laying down in

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<v Speaker 1>my bed. And the next thing I knew, Adam came

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<v Speaker 1>in and he was like Katie, Katie, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>like what, And he said, Albie's head looked really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>He had gotten himself now a blanket wasn't over and

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<v Speaker 1>he had gotten himself in a position. And I fell

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<v Speaker 1>asleep and I didn't even realize, No, no, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know for how long, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know me you know, Harry, there's something called micro asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a little a little science here. So we

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<v Speaker 1>go to sleep, we think, okay, and now I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to bed. I put my head on the

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<v Speaker 1>pillow and then I fall asleep. And you think that

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of aware when you're allowing yourself to fall asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>But actually there's something called microsleep, which is when part

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<v Speaker 1>of the brain goes to sleep before all of the

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<v Speaker 1>brain goes to sleep. And this is what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>you're driving and you know you're tired, and your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>are rolling around a little bit, but you're still awake,

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<v Speaker 1>and then suddenly you fell asleep. When you have microsleep,

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<v Speaker 1>the brain is so close that boom, just in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>the lights can go off, I mean in your head

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<v Speaker 1>and you can fall asleep. And that's what happens with

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<v Speaker 1>the baby because it's cozy and swede and I freaking tire. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So just the five s is that are a savior

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<v Speaker 1>for women, especially in this first three months where a

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<v Speaker 1>baby can be really, really fussy, because like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not really ready to be outside of their mom yet.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to scientifically and physically. But the five S

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<v Speaker 1>stand for it. Right, So the five s is are

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<v Speaker 1>five ways to imitate the womb. And interestingly, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>just make the baby nostalgic. Oh cool, this is where

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<v Speaker 1>I used to live. It's not like that. It's you're

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<v Speaker 1>actually turning on a reflex, a response that's built into

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<v Speaker 1>the baby. So babies are are okay learners, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>not great yet, right, It's gonna take a few years

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<v Speaker 1>to get great. But they do learn things in the womb.

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<v Speaker 1>They're learning to recognize flavors, recognize your voice, recognize the

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<v Speaker 1>sounds around them. Um. But mostly babies are built on reflexes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is built in software. So in other words, when

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<v Speaker 1>you buy a computer already has stuff there that allows

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<v Speaker 1>you to start using it right away, babies have stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in there that's pre programmed. So sucking, you don't teach

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<v Speaker 1>your baby how to suck, how to cry, how to swallow,

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<v Speaker 1>how to blink. That stuff has to be there for survival.

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<v Speaker 1>Even even you know, there are ancient reflexes that are there.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you put something in the baby's hand, they grab

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<v Speaker 1>on you. You put something in the baby's foot, it

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<v Speaker 1>grabs on you. Is that you know? That's an interesting one.

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<v Speaker 1>So um. It turns out that what's the new information

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<v Speaker 1>and Happiest Baby is this idea that babies actually have

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<v Speaker 1>a reflex we never knew about before, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>an off switch for crying in an on switch for sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not really a switch, but it kind of gets

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<v Speaker 1>them there if they're if they're ready to like, if

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<v Speaker 1>the baby is super hungry, you can do the five

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<v Speaker 1>s is. It's never gonna it's never gonna work because

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<v Speaker 1>they need something else. But if they're you know, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of not hungry and they're not in discomfort, it'll ease

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<v Speaker 1>them into into sleep and sometimes it will calm crying

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<v Speaker 1>in seconds. Oh I've seen you on the video but

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<v Speaker 1>there there you go. It's like you guys the great

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<v Speaker 1>How long is that dvd? And half hour? There's a

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<v Speaker 1>half hour dvd Happiest Baby on the DVD and they

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<v Speaker 1>they hand you screaming babies and it's Adam, and Adam

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<v Speaker 1>would always do an imitation of it where like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they just go like livet in their arms. It's absolutely incredible. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and my my publisher hates me to say this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I really really recommend. I mean, the book is a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting books read the book, but the only baby

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<v Speaker 1>book I read, actually I did. I tried pregnant to

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<v Speaker 1>make it through a lot of books. I really tried,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was really tired and I would get through stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But yours, I actually read the whole thing because it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's my type of book. It's broken up in chapters,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's very goal oriented for me. Yeah, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>very and it's not like huge or you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just but anyway, the way you learn the techniques,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really by watching, and so I encourage people to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the video, kind of like learning how to tie

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<v Speaker 1>your shoelaces. You can learn it from a book, but

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<v Speaker 1>but it's better to see it. Yeah, and especially for guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because men actually are great at it. They're the best

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<v Speaker 1>in the family. Men are terrible at breastfeeding, but men

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<v Speaker 1>are really really good at baby coming. Um. They swaddle, snugger,

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<v Speaker 1>they jiggle more jiggling. It was horrible, it's horrible. Well anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so the five is stand for our five ways of

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<v Speaker 1>imitating the womb. Swaddling is the first is the cornerstone

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<v Speaker 1>arms down actually's best um and there's people get confused

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<v Speaker 1>about that, but it's really, that's the way it works,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it looks weird and like you would hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>But babies don't get the vote. And this is an

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<v Speaker 1>important thing everyone. Some people go, my baby doesn't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>because kids, when they're upset, they'll struggle and fight you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll think that the baby doesn't like it. They

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<v Speaker 1>need it. They need it. They don't know it's best

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<v Speaker 1>for the swaddled for months and then when he got

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<v Speaker 1>out of we slowly decided at like around three or

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<v Speaker 1>four months two. Then he spent time unswaddled just one arm,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like weeks later he got the other arm

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<v Speaker 1>and we only swaddled the legs, and then weeks later

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<v Speaker 1>he got the legs out because he slowly introduced him

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<v Speaker 1>to freedom. Right, No, that's right for whatever they can handle. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know so, um so that's swaddling and swaddling offen

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<v Speaker 1>Tis most of the time doesn't turn on the calming reflex.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, sometimes they cry more, and that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>you think that they don't like it. But they have

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<v Speaker 1>to be swaddled. It makes everything else work better, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it also allows them to be calm or longer

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not upsetting themselves with because if they're not

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<v Speaker 1>swallowed in the middle of the night and they go

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<v Speaker 1>like that, they wake themselves up. We're crying, We're here

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<v Speaker 1>all over again. But if they have that thing but

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like they're in the womb and it's still constricted,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. They're not wagging themselves in the face now.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the first step, and then you layer on

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<v Speaker 1>the other four things. So then it's the side or

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<v Speaker 1>stomach position. The back is the worst position for calming

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<v Speaker 1>a baby. It's the best position for sleep, the only

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<v Speaker 1>safe position for sleep, So side stomach is never for sleeping,

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<v Speaker 1>only the back for sleeping. But the back is the

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<v Speaker 1>worst because they kind of feel like they're falling. The

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<v Speaker 1>third is um is sure in your arm, you put

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<v Speaker 1>them on their side, or you put them on their stomach,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, so they call that the football hold or

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<v Speaker 1>up over your shoulder where they're leaning forward. Um. The

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<v Speaker 1>third S is sure or white noise, but it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be we'll talk about this maybe in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>There's different types of white noise. Some work better for crying,

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<v Speaker 1>some work better for sleep. The third S is swinging

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<v Speaker 1>or rhythmic motion. UH. And the and The fifth test

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<v Speaker 1>is sucking, and every baby is different. They all need swaddling.

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<v Speaker 1>But some babies you swallow them and do the sound

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<v Speaker 1>and their golden. Other babies should swallow and do the sound.

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<v Speaker 1>It does nothing until you have the motion. Other babies

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<v Speaker 1>need this sucking. Some babies need all five at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time to turn on the reflex and even vigorously

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<v Speaker 1>like and once you get them calm and again, if

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<v Speaker 1>you do it right, oftentimes it happens in seconds. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of slow it down and kind of gradually

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<v Speaker 1>get them to kind of downshift into into sleep. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to talk about this new which we used

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy um and was like having what you would

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<v Speaker 1>say a night nurse or a nanny or any of

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<v Speaker 1>your cousins. That's kind of doing it itself right. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. You should have your older sister with

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<v Speaker 1>you and she would come in and say, you know, Katie,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys sleep. I'm gonna hold rock and shush the

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<v Speaker 1>baby all night long. The baby gets upsettled, jiggle and

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<v Speaker 1>shish a little more. And if I can't come the

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<v Speaker 1>baby down, I'm getting you to feed the baby. And

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is that when babies wake up in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the night. Number one, if you just put

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<v Speaker 1>the baby in a regular bassonet, they're lying there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so different than the world inside. So that's why they

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<v Speaker 1>don't sleep well. You could sleep on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>cement floor if you had to. You're not gonna sleep well,

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<v Speaker 1>but you will sleep because you're gonna be so tired.

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<v Speaker 1>Babies will sleep on their backs in a quiet, still bead,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just going to wake up more so if you

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<v Speaker 1>swaddle them safely and you use the type of white

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<v Speaker 1>noise and you use the right type of motion. So

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<v Speaker 1>for babies who are asleep, of course, it's just natural, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just general rock feels like they're still in there. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>because even all night long when you're pregnant, every time

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<v Speaker 1>you breathe, your diet fragm is moving and rocking your baby.

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<v Speaker 1>So so they expect that they Why take away everything

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<v Speaker 1>that I love and I need to sleep? I just guys, born,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you taking it always from me? Then? What

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<v Speaker 1>snow does, in addition to rocking and shishing all night

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<v Speaker 1>is that it hears when the baby cries and responds

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<v Speaker 1>with a little bit more jiggle and shish well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know we built it, uh my initials super chice looking

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<v Speaker 1>thanks like just Google snow. We'll put a link to

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<v Speaker 1>it on on we of Katie's crib notes below every podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's beautiful, Like it's so beautiful. We're the most

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<v Speaker 1>awarded baby product in history for innovation, technology, of ge, safety,

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<v Speaker 1>and design. It's in three of the leading art museums

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. We loved it because I was a

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<v Speaker 1>bad swaddler and so this new comes with a really

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<v Speaker 1>beautifully tight zip up a bowl sleep sack sort of

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you put the baby in, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>a swat. It's a swaddle, but I'm not doing it

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<v Speaker 1>with all this material that he's getting out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's terrible. Um. And then it has was it four

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<v Speaker 1>different levels, so it's four different levels of sound in

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<v Speaker 1>motion and then the baseline which is where they sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>But it has an app because some kids need a

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<v Speaker 1>little yea. The app also every day you can you

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<v Speaker 1>get a download graphic of how your baby slapped and

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<v Speaker 1>how how it's changing over the last week. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest deal. Lever like Beyonce uses it. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of I'm saying I heard that

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<v Speaker 1>Beyonce used it. It's beautiful, it's amazing, and it's really

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<v Speaker 1>as far as yes, it is a pricey crib, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're not paying for a night nurse which is like

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars a week, and you can't pay for sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>which is literally the only most thing you need that

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<v Speaker 1>you would so here for Here's there are two There

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<v Speaker 1>are two questions that people have about snow when they

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<v Speaker 1>hear about it. Uh, two big ones. One is, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my god, my baby is going to get used to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then my baby's never going to get my baby

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<v Speaker 1>off of it. And it turns out it's a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of cake if you wait for five six months, because

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<v Speaker 1>then your baby is mature enough to move out. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like eating food. You give your baby

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<v Speaker 1>milk for every meal for the first six months. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry. They're never going to eat food, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they will when the time is right. And

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing happens with sleep once they get into

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<v Speaker 1>a really great sleep pattern. So snoop by the motion

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<v Speaker 1>and sound, trains babies to be better sleepers. It immediately

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<v Speaker 1>adds an extra hour to two to a baby's sleep

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<v Speaker 1>and usually by two three months, or sleeping seven eight

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<v Speaker 1>hours straight, I mean dream the same thing happening and

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<v Speaker 1>he's seven to seven now and we trained them out

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<v Speaker 1>of it. No problem, there you come. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. The second thing is the price. It turns

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<v Speaker 1>out though that I mean, we have sales all the

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<v Speaker 1>time anyway on the website, but it's which is pricey

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<v Speaker 1>for a baby bed, but this is a gorgeous bed,

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<v Speaker 1>the most sophisticated, white noise machine, the safest swing. The

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<v Speaker 1>baby is swaddled and attached to the bed so they

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<v Speaker 1>can't roll to an unsafe position. So it's the safest

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<v Speaker 1>bet ever made. It's extra sleep for you and the baby,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's twenty four hours a day, seven days a week,

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<v Speaker 1>an extra pair of hands. You're going to use it

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<v Speaker 1>for months. If you have another baby, you'll use it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get to some questions because our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>are like, women are just struggling. This is really hard

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<v Speaker 1>and it's wonderful that you are providing help. From Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>Gambino on Instagram, what is a realistic expectation for a

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<v Speaker 1>baby to sleep through the night and have you noticed

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between breastbed versus formula fed babies. So it

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<v Speaker 1>depends on how you define sleep through the night um

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<v Speaker 1>in different studies. Some people to find is five hours straight,

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<v Speaker 1>some people to find it is eight hours straight. So

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of depends. What we see with SNOW is

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<v Speaker 1>that babies usually sleep um seven or eight hours straight

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<v Speaker 1>in a segment, usually by two months, and that's really

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<v Speaker 1>advanced compared to a baby who's not in snoop. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you're using at least you're swaddling and the

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<v Speaker 1>white type of white noise. Yeah, those two things together

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<v Speaker 1>are big help as well. And um, so you would.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, some babies are great sleepers, they'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>really right from the first month or so, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, it takes really three or four months

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<v Speaker 1>to get that good solid nighttime sleep. Do you notice

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<v Speaker 1>the difference between breastfed babies and formula fed babies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so breastfed babies usually need to be fed more frequently,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they're waking up, they're waking up more often. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Breastfeeding mothers, however, interestingly, actually sleep as much or more

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<v Speaker 1>than formula fed. Is that fading mothers? Yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of sounds odd. Isn't it. But but that's

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<v Speaker 1>with this study show Wow, um from Joy, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you get a teething baby to sleep through the night

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<v Speaker 1>without using drugs? This is a really big question. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to because I'm really careful about the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>motor and and tail and all. Like I'm so I

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<v Speaker 1>rarely use it. It makes me I don't know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I try basically any other thing, and he's getting all

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<v Speaker 1>four molars at the same time. When a baby is

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<v Speaker 1>super screaming and uncomfortable, I give a motor and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I had a splitting headache and I couldn't sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>I would give myself bill. So fine, Um, but how

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<v Speaker 1>do you do without using drugs? So a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 1>So some baby it's just teeth, that's no big deal

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<v Speaker 1>for them. Other babies really seem to go through, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>angst and and suffering. So one simple thing you can

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<v Speaker 1>do is elevate the head of the bed just a

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.160
<v Speaker 1>little bit, just a couple of inches, because when you're

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:05.919
<v Speaker 1>lying back, the blood kind of fills the area. Everything

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>gets more swollen, you know, your nose gets more stuffy.

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 1>If you elevate your head, it's easier to breathe a

0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit and the gums are a little bit less

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>swollen and throbby. So just elevating the head is one

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>good thing. The second thing is you have things on Amazon,

0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 1>for example, like that you go put under the mattress.

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, I used to use it when you get

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>cold too, so that like the boogers and everything would

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:27.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of like drain the other way. But it's like

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 1>a wedge, right you put or I guess you could

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>just put a book right, yeah, I know you can,

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>or a little something under the feet of the crib. Yes,

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you'll see. If you have a baby moves around a lot,

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 1>then they may end up outside down in the other direction.

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 1>So I mean it's one thing you can do. The

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<v Speaker 1>second thing is using a strong white noise because when

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the white noise, when you wake up in the middle

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.159
<v Speaker 1>of the night, it's totally quiet, and you've got golob

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>throb throb. You know, it bothers you more. But if

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you wake up and there's some things going on, you

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>don't pay as much attention to what's going on inside

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>because the pain is not really that much pain as

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>much as it is a nuisance and awareness. So but

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the last thing has is what you said about using.

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.719
<v Speaker 1>So there are homeopathic drops and haven't I haven't been

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>impressed by them. Yeah. Um, but motion is a really

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>great tool, much more than taile and all because it's

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>going to last longer through the night. But here's the

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>trick with motran everybody likes to kind of give a

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>little less and it says on the label, actually speak

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to your doctor about it because the label underdoses, and

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>so you really need to speak to give him the

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>right dosage because I'm always like, well, he's lighter weight,

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, under the year. It's at one point seven

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.440
<v Speaker 1>five because he's over a year old. But for the

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>weight thing, he is on the lowest end of the

0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>weight for a kid over a year. So I'm always like, well,

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll just give him the dosage for like a baby baby. Yeah. Yeah.

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.159
<v Speaker 1>And the weird thing about motrin or Thailand, all they

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>underdose just to cover their but you know, just to

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>be super maybe maybe, but um, but when you underdose,

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like you may as well not do it. So

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a threshold you have to get to a certain

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:13.160
<v Speaker 1>dose level for the effect of it, and usually for

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 1>for little kids, we recommend ten milligrams per kilogram, which

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>is like five per pound, five milligrams per pound. But

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>speak speak to your doctor. Of course, it's with drugs.

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>We always want to be really safe and whatever. But um,

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>guess what, alb you're getting one eight seven freaking five

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the next time you're teating in the middle of the night.

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Um from Tammy, a mom who's read your book, followed

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 1>all of your methods. The one dirty little secret for

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 1>almost all of the new parents I know this includes pediatricians,

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>is that a lot of breastfeeding moms co sleep. What's

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>your stance on co sleeping and hasn't changed at all

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>given how other cultures and American culture secretly cold sleep, right,

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>So nowadays in our culture, so there's co sleeping and

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>there's bed sharing. Co sleeping means the babies in the

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>room with you, hopefully right next to your bed. Bed

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>sharing obviously is they're in the bed with you. Um.

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Bed sharing has clearly been associated with a higher risk

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.919
<v Speaker 1>of infant sleep death, even in breastfeeding moms who are

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>not smoking. And you're not drunk because like I said,

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.719
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of drunk anyway, just from exhaustion. So what

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to do is have your baby right next

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>to you, because that makes it cozy and nice, and

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 1>you can attend to your baby's needs and breastfeed easily,

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>but not in bed with you. So you can have

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.919
<v Speaker 1>a co sleeper, you can have a bassonet next to you,

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>or a snoo right next to you. Those are the

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 1>things that you want to do. The um having said that,

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>about sixty or seventy of breastfeeding moms will fall asleep

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>with their babies in bed with them, and you almost

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>you almost can't help it. It happens, but you really

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that, UM, and so it's it's

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>worth kind of making a pact, like you've made a

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>promise to yourself. Not that it never happens, of course,

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you're just a human being, but you're really it's such

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a terrible, terrible ruined obviously the terrible death of a child.

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.719
<v Speaker 1>But I've spoken to mom's who lost their first baby,

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, if your baby is in bed with you,

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>your life is ruined. You will never ever escape that.

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I mean, I can't even um from Priscilla.

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Priscilla's mom has been a very present caregiver for her

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 1>almost three year old and when it's just the mom

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>and the toddler together. Her mom mentions he's very affectionate

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and acts normal. However, as soon as the mom shows up,

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>like dropping him off at the house, he'll actually hit

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>or kick her, not hard but a swat to show

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>his displeasure. The mom's theory is that he doesn't want

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.959
<v Speaker 1>to get excuse me. Priscilla's theories that he doesn't want

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to get dropped off. She doesn't know why he why

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>he'd do this when it's time to pick him up,

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>She has no reason to suspect abuse. When he plays

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>with toys, he's always includes a grandma role for a

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>toy or stuffed animal along with that for a mom, dad,

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>and baby. And he will tell me outside of grandma's

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.200
<v Speaker 1>presence that he loves grandma. So what is and on?

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>How do I get him to stop? His teacher says

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't hit other kids at his tyler program. Um,

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>super fantastic question, fantastic fantastic question, and fantastic way of

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>think about it, because kind you know how the the

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the the frontier guides would lead you through the forest

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and they'd be looking for a broken twig or a

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>footmark and that would they read the signs to figure

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>out how to get through the forest to the other side.

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>As a parent, you learned to read the signs and um.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And what was so intelligent and that question is, hey,

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>is it possible that my child is being mistreated in

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>some way? You hate to think about that, but it

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.320
<v Speaker 1>does happen. I mean we read about in the newspaper

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>every day. Um. And so she thought very carefully about

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>what other signs would I see if my baby were

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>being mistreated? Um? You know, more temper tantrums, more bedwedding,

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 1>more toilet accidents, more nightmares, more acting out behavior in

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>school more um um saying of course you you think

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you could ask a three year old, he's pretty talkative,

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>did somebody hit you? You know, we kind of do

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that in that earnest question. But they don't really have

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>the ability to answer direct quest. I mean, of course

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>they can know that they might not. So the way

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you often do, the way you open the door into

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>a child's mind oftentimes is through play. And so you

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>have the puppets, and you have oh, here's grandma Doggie,

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and he's you know, little boy dogging hi Grandma, Grandma.

0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh uh, a little boy, doggie, what why do you

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>want to ask grandma? You know, say grandma, please don't

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>what you know? And then you, I mean, you can

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>leave the witness a little bit and he's going to

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>play with grandma differently exactly. Have some sort of feelings

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>come up about that now if he doesn't, and she's

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of done that sort of investigative work. So here's

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>is this separation anxiety? Is this? It's probably more like

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>there are too many things going on in his life.

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>He's tired at that point in time. He's a little hungry.

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>It's he's nappy, needs his nap or whatever, and he's

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>on the ragged edge. And so we know about the

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>terrible twos, but the terrible twos, which are out more

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>outburst behaviors, it doesn't mean when you're two years old

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>it happens. It means between eighteen months and two years.

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>That's when you have that imbalanced period. Usually once you

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>get over to it's getting much better. And then there's

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>another one that happens between three and three and a half.

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Hello God, But that's where happy is Toddler helps you out, Yes,

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>because those two I've read, but I have not yet

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>read the Happiest Baby Guide to Great Sleep. I mean,

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and that's not only about sleeping. I mean because I

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 1>that's really where where I'm heading into with a lot

0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>of the moms and my mom crew were going through this,

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>like when are we dropping one, you know, two naps

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>to one nap? And when is that one nap during

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the day? And now we're introducing nursery school, and how

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>are we dealing with sleep? Then? Um, wait, we have

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple more questions. How do I know when it's

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>time to start potty training? Will my toddler give me

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>any signs? What are the best methods? So there are

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>these kind of events in life, right, and potty training

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>is like this. It's like on the barquee and the

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 1>bright lights and stuffing time, um and um. People stress

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>out about that. Um. Usually it's actually pretty simple and straightforward.

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>But you do have to read the signs. So where

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>do the signs your child is ready? Um? Well, there

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>are a few. Number one, they don't say no every

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>time you ask them to do something. They're not oppositional.

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Number two, they have a word for p and poop.

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Number three, they are willing to sit in one place

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>for fifteen seconds, you know, because yeah, exactly, UM and

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>UM number four, they like to imitate you. And so

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>when you're washed dishes, they want to wash dishes, or

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>when you're picking things up, they want to do it.

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>So they're in that imitative phase UM. And that usually

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>comes around two two and a half, usually sometimes maybe

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>three UM, but usually all when all those things are

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>coming together, that's when it's opportune to start teaching them

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to have control over their vowels. Because when you think

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>about it, here's the challenge with with peeing or pooping

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>on the potty. You have to do the up to

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>opposite things at the same time. You have to squeeze

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>your stomach muscles but relax your anus. So it's challenging, right,

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean you'll talk um. So anyway, so the so

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and here's the here's the biggest mistakes people make with

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>toilet training. Number one during the rush because they think

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that the earlier they do it, the better, you know,

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>boarding school, your child will get into or something. Um.

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>The second thing is that they're told they should make

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>a big celebration when the baby peas or poops or

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that kind of a thing. And actually, you don't want

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>to do that, Yeah, you what you you do. You

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 1>can celebrate the fact that they sit there for fifteen seconds,

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>so you can even have a timer, and you read

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>a book. You know they're sitting there. You tell the story,

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>you read a book, you sing a song, whatever it

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>is going to be entertaining for your child. And when

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the dinger goes off, yeah, dingers over, here's a sticker,

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 1>good job. And then you do the happiest toddler technique

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 1>is called gossiping, where you pretend to talk to Grahama

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. Later on Grandma Bobby said blah blah blah,

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>and he's listening in Mr Big Ears and feeling like, oh, yeah,

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>I did such a good job. So you can say

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>it directly, but then when you say it again, it

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 1>like makes it five times more trusted. When we overhear things,

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>we believe it more than what's still directly to us.

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>So but here's the thing. You can celebrate that, but

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>when they peer poop, do not celebrate that, you know,

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>a good job. I mean, you'd be positive. But so

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>here's the reason why when when your child is upset

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>with you and wants to get back at you, they're

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>going to they'll withhold something that you want, and so

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>if it's pine and pooping that you love, you know

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>that then you love mommy. Well, I'm not going to

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>give it to you. You don't want to get into

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that kind of power struggle. So here is another question

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.280
<v Speaker 1>from Laurent. Please excuse me, Laurent if I'm completely butchering

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.080
<v Speaker 1>your name. Um, But Laurent says, our three months old

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>sleeps in his crib both day and night with the

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.759
<v Speaker 1>help of a swaddler, pacifier, white noise machine, dark room.

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>We always lay him down drowsy but awake, and he

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>falls asleep on his own with the pacifier. He has

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.919
<v Speaker 1>a consistent bedtime routine and is sleeping from seven thirty

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>pm to six am with no nighttime feetings most of

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>the time, and takes three to four consistent naps per day,

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>ranging from one hour to three hours max. Everyone's hating Laurent.

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>When is it appropriate time to sleep train in terms

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>of getting rid of the swaddle, pascifier, etcetera, so that

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 1>he can start to sleep independently at night. Currently, he

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>wakes up in fusses three or four times a night,

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and we usually pop the passifire back in to help

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>him fall right back asleep. What should we get rid

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>of first? We don't want him to become reliant on

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>the pass fire, but it's been a really useful tool

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 1>so far during the day as well as night. Okay,

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>so a bunch of questions there. Yes, um number one. Um,

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty good sleep obviously. Um, we all need We

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>all have little sleep cues that help us sleep normally.

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>You have a pillow, you have a bed, you have

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>a comforter. Some people have their special pillow or their

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>special sheets. Adam is a sensitive guy, he is, and

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:47.399
<v Speaker 1>he really likes his pillow. So, um, well, babies are

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>the same way. They have their things that really help

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>them to sleep, and each one is an individual and

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>they have you know, however, interesting thing is that if

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you give a little bit more one thing, oftentimes you

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>can help them not need the other thing. Um. So

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of like making a stew. If you don't have potatoes,

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>but you're put in a little bit more carrots and turnips,

0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 1>it kind of works out. And so um for the

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>problem with pacifiers, as they fall out and then you

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 1>got to put it back in the middle of the night.

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>So the first thing you do is you teach your

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>baby to keep it in the mouth longer, and the

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>way you teach them to do that, this is a

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>technique in the Happiest Baby book. It's called reverse psychology.

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So most people to keep the pacifier in there, kind

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of pushing it in and holding it in. Actually you

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>want to do the opposite. You want to pull it out.

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>When your baby is sucking on something, and then you

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 1>pretend to take it out, the automatic reaction is to

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>suck in more. So you might experience that, like when

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.280
<v Speaker 1>your breastfeeding or bottle feeding. They seem to fall asleep

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and you go to take your breast out and suddenly

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>they decide they wanted more. So if you do pull

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>it out, it's kind of like fishing and pulling back

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>on the line. And if you do that times they

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.399
<v Speaker 1>start to learn to be able to use their mouth

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>muscles better and when they feel its falling out, they

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>start to suck it in more so they can keep

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>it in longer. So that's one thing you can do.

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>The second thing is to make sure you're using the

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>right type of white noise, and for a three month old,

0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:18.479
<v Speaker 1>if it's too too monotonous and kind of um honey um,

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>it's not as effective as a multi frequency sound like

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>a rain on the roof sound, or even a vacuum sound,

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.879
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. So play around with the type

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>of white noise and make sure it's loud enough. It

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 1>should be about seventies seventy, about seventy decibels six to

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>seventy decibels by your child's ear, So you don't put

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>this sound by the ear, but you you can get

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>a little decibel meter on your telephone and measure the

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>sound at the level of the baby's ear to see

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that you're not having it too high and too loud.

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>And then um. For swaddling, what the Academy Pediatrics recommends

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 1>now is that we stop swaddling at two or three

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.719
<v Speaker 1>months of age because we don't or when babies can

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 1>roll over, we don't them rolling over swaddled, and so um.

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>So the best thing is filled a wrong to speak

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:11.280
<v Speaker 1>to her pediatrician and get her pediatricians advice. Um. What's

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>hard is that a lot of babies do well with swaddle,

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>need the swaddling for four or five months, even six months,

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>and and yet you don't want them rolling over swaddle,

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 1>So it becomes a real dilemma for parents. It's one

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.759
<v Speaker 1>of the reasons that we made snow is because once

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>they're secured in place, they can't roll over. And then

0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the snow sleep sack that you were talking about. And

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 1>actually now we have a swaddled blanket called Sleepy, which

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>is the same sack, except it doesn't have the wings

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>that attached to the bed and it's an award winning swaddle.

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 1>We caught the five seconds swaddle because literally boom five

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>seconds and it's done so um. So what happens with

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that swaddle is that their little armholes and so um.

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>When your baby gets to be four or five months,

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>you can let one arm out, well, that's exactly what

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>you did with Albie. One arm out, then let the

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>second arm out, and so you wean them off of

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the swaddling gradually. The white noise should be at least

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>for the first year and really more than that. A

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of adults sleep with white We do every night.

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:15.399
<v Speaker 1>And sometimes I get in a fight without him about

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>it because my husband is he has his pillow and

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 1>he has his white noise. He's exactly like my son.

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>My son has his thumb and he has the white noise. Um.

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>He's a big thumb sucker, which by the way, when

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>does that? Like, I don't care like he it's been

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 1>a blessing because we never gave him a pacifier. Okay,

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>he found and he had his thumb. Um. He doesn't

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>suck it at all during the day. It's just when

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>he knows it's naptime and I pick him up and

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>he puts his thumb in his mouth and puts his

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:44.800
<v Speaker 1>head on my shoulder And he doesn't do it throughout

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>the night unless he wakes himself up. Then he sucks

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:48.800
<v Speaker 1>as them to put him back to sleep, which is okay,

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>good best. Yes, he's self sufficient that way. And that

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of gets the Lam's question as well, which is like,

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>when do I stop the pacifier? Yeah, So, in general,

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>we wean kids off the past for meaning we take

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>it away, usually around six months or so. In the

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 1>deal world, you'll try to do that, however, and with

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>passifiers you don't want to start them until the breastfeeding

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 1>is going really well, So we usually like to wait

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a week or two weeks at the most before we

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>use the passifier, right, which doesn't happen for most kids,

0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.360
<v Speaker 1>but occasionally it's really a problem. Same thing for bottles.

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>You'd like to start a bottle at a week or

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 1>two weeks, but not really before that because of you

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.879
<v Speaker 1>don't want the confusion child. Now here's the interesting thing

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>about thumb sucking and passifier sucking, which it's really weird.

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 1>This is not not written. I'm I haven't seen it

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>written anywhere, but it's been my experience that it runs

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 1>in families. And if the mother or father or a

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>couple of the siblings of the mother or father really

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 1>loved sucking their thumb or a pacifier, or how a

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>teddy bear or security blanket that they really glombed onto,

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 1>then there's a high likelihood that your baby is going

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 1>to love that as well. Now, you'd much rather have

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>your child sucking a pacifier than sucking the thumb, which

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 1>sounds odd because the thumb is always there. So it's like, well,

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:13.239
<v Speaker 1>they're going to find there's thumb more easily to quit,

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>but to quit it, yeah, you don't have control over that.

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>It's much harder to quit, and it causes much bigger

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 1>changes to the palate and the and the teeth, so

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>it's much more likely to cause you know, significant orthodontic

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>issues later on. Once they're doing the thumb. It's kind

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 1>of very hard to get them to stop it. So

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.720
<v Speaker 1>I if I see kids starting to use thumbs a lot,

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I really try to kind of keep up with the

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 1>pacifier so that they kind of stick with the pacifier

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 1>rather than going to their thumbs. Um. And here's the

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 1>thing about pacifiers. If you look at people in other cultures,

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 1>more basic cultures, they're nursing their babies till three or

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 1>four years of age. Sucking is a normal thing for

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>three year old and a four year old. So it's

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>no sweat, it's not a big deal. If I don't

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 1>want kids walking around all day long, they've got the

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 1>past seed plugged in. But if you only use it

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.799
<v Speaker 1>when you're sleeping or when you're really upset or sick,

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a friend, and so it's not a bad thing.

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 1>And then by you know, three or four years of age,

0:43:13.840 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>it's much easier for them to give that up. Right. UM,

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I think this is our last question. My child refuses

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to sleep in her own bed, What are some tips

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>for getting her to sleep on her own? So this

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>is really what the Happiest Baby guide to great sleep.

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, birth to five years um is one of

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>the things that talks about so if your child wants

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 1>sleep in bed, meaning that you put her in bed

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and she keeps coming to your room, or she want

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to let you know every time you try to leave

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the room, Mommy, I need I need a glass of water,

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:45.799
<v Speaker 1>I need a kids, I need a pp I need

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean they call it curtain calls familiar

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to you coming for us around the corner. For sure?

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Um so, because ultimately think about it this way. Who

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:00.839
<v Speaker 1>is to sleep by themselves and a dark room all

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 1>alone when the party is happening in the other room.

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right at a certain point. Yeah so okay, fair enough.

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>But kids don't want to There was a time in

0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 1>your life when you didn't want to miss the part, no,

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 1>thank you? So um So. Parents are taught you should

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 1>let your child cry it out, and that is a

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.239
<v Speaker 1>tough love way, and it can work, but it can

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 1>totally backfire and your kids starts vomiting and screaming and

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:33.280
<v Speaker 1>ripping the room apart. It can be a real travail.

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:37.720
<v Speaker 1>So there's a technique in the Sleep book called twinkle

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 1>interrupt us and it's a very very effective, like or

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:46.720
<v Speaker 1>so effective technique to get a child over eighteen months

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to two three four years of age two, stop the

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 1>fight and give up and just sleep in their own bed.

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>And there are a couple of principles involved in this.

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>First is the Happiest Toddler technique, which is called patient stretching.

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 1>So the Happiest Toddler book and DVD t or streaming

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 1>video teach how do you teach patients to a one

0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:08.800
<v Speaker 1>year old? And you do it kind of the opposite

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>way that you think you should do it. In other words,

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>we think that we say, you know, your child comes

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>to you and says, mommy, mommy, do this, and you're

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>doing something else and you say, honey, wait one second,

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>mommy is gonna be right with you. Uh, that's not

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 1>what you do. You do the opposite. You immediately go

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to your child, Oh, show mommy what you have, and

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 1>just as they start to show it to you in

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.720
<v Speaker 1>that second, then you go, oh, honey, wait one second.

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 1>One one second, sweeter one second. You turn away for

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like three seconds, pretend to do something, to turn your back,

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 1>pretend to and they've already moved on. No, no, no

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:44.919
<v Speaker 1>they haven't. They're waiting because your finger is up saying

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 1>one second, one second. After three seconds or five seconds,

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.400
<v Speaker 1>you turn back to then and go good waiting, sweetheart,

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Show mommy what you have. Wow, so you do that?

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Want to do this for me? No pay? You do

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:05.439
<v Speaker 1>that five or six times a day for different things. Cracker, mommy, cracker, Okay,

0:46:05.440 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>sweat er, here's your cracker. Oh wait one second, one second,

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>over and over again. And then you increase it from

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 1>three seconds to five to ten, to fifteen to thirty.

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 1>And then here's the trick. Once they're waiting thirty seconds,

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you only make them wait three seconds. In other words,

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>they're expecting to wait longer. Oh my god. Sometimes I

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 1>don't even have to wait that long. It's like, this

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>is so cool. It's like what they do to us

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.919
<v Speaker 1>with slot machines. Every once in a while you suddenly win,

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you keep thinking I'm gonna win next time,

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>and then you know. So you teach patients that way.

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 1>You do that for like a week, to teach your

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>child to when you go one second, one second, they

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>know they're going to get what they want, but they

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:46.920
<v Speaker 1>do have to wait a little bit. Then you have

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 1>a nighttime routine, reading a book and stuff like that.

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Then you have a little teddy bear or a blanket

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>and you have white noise in the room. You need

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 1>all of those ingredients for a week. Then when you

0:46:57.800 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 1>put them to bed and you ring read the five

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 1>story Worries in the middle of the sixth story, you

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<v Speaker 1>go and then the little boy bunny Rabbit said, oh, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>wait one second, one second, tweeter one second. Mommy just

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<v Speaker 1>has to go see daddy. Or if your child won't

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<v Speaker 1>let you leave the room, I just have to go

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side. I just have one thing over

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<v Speaker 1>there on the table, and you go there for five

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<v Speaker 1>seconds and come back and snuggle up and start reading again.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a minute later, oh, one more second, one

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<v Speaker 1>more second. And after two or three nights, you built

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<v Speaker 1>that up to where you're going out for a minute

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<v Speaker 1>or two minutes and you say, here, hold onto your

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<v Speaker 1>teddy bear, Mommy's going to be right back, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>clutching the teddy bear, the white noises on, they're cuddled

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<v Speaker 1>up in bed, and usually by the time they're waiting

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes, they just fall asleep on their own. And um, really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really cool because it's not screaming, it's not fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel like they're getting what they want. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I have to do that because I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot. I'm not good with him crying. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just not well, you know something, Um, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a good trick. Sometimes it doesn't work, and

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<v Speaker 1>you do have to kind of decide what you're gonna do,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't have to cry it out. Sometimes you'll

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<v Speaker 1>put a little bed next to your bed, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and say, honey, honey, this is mommy daddy's bed, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is your bed right next to right. So you

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<v Speaker 1>can sleep there on the floor and you're cute, cuddly

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<v Speaker 1>mattress and be right next to mommy and daddy. Or

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<v Speaker 1>you can sleep in the room with your child and

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<v Speaker 1>then gradually move your bed further and further away. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are different techniques described in the book. But I

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<v Speaker 1>love Twinkle interrupt this because it works so well and

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<v Speaker 1>it and it's teaching your child a good thing, which

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<v Speaker 1>is more patient. No one did that Twinkle interrupt. This

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<v Speaker 1>was not given to me as a child. This was

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<v Speaker 1>so informative. Again, we could talk for like a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand hours, and I hope you guys found this to

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<v Speaker 1>be like just so informative. The books are incredible. The DVD,

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<v Speaker 1>the streaming video. The streaming video for the five s

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<v Speaker 1>is that's brilliant. Thank you so much for taking the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Thank you guys, love you now. Thank you

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