WEBVTT - Another Brick in the Chest: Thérèse Humbert

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 2>So good to see you, to see you too. I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you? How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fine, white ass.

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<v Speaker 2>How's your heart?

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<v Speaker 3>He's good, I'm fine. Good.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, you know what's ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>I do? But you're asking?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? So I have this back and forth idea

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<v Speaker 3>in my head like would it be fun to run

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<v Speaker 3>down the aisle of a plane naked or not? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Cause I yeah, I say not. It was just like

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a nightmare people have, right, like oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>naked in my class or whatever. And I'm like, they

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<v Speaker 3>imagine the freedom of knowing you've run naked at thirty

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<v Speaker 3>six thousand and fifty thousand feet. I mean that's just

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't want to join the mile high club,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would like to streak club, right whatever that is,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I've streaked at fifty thousand feet?

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<v Speaker 2>Is fifty thousand?

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<v Speaker 3>These days a lot of plane gets up to fifty

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<v Speaker 3>thousand foot? Yeah, But anyway, my point is some dude

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia went and did it. Oh he did, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he went and he ran down the aisle of a plane,

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<v Speaker 3>right and then he had to be tackled by other

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<v Speaker 3>passengers and he was like, you know, bear is the

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<v Speaker 3>day he was born and he was Australian, so like

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<v Speaker 3>good eye on you, right, But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>like it made me realize that my dream was a shallow, fleeting,

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<v Speaker 3>silly thing, and that how terrible would be if I

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<v Speaker 3>ever did something like I let alone, like the horror

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<v Speaker 3>other people are experiencing because they're not part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, I'm just like I want to I would

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<v Speaker 3>be on the plane by myself. I don't really, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not about they're not part of it. But he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>they're very much part of it. They were like, we

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<v Speaker 3>do not exclude us from this narrative, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>like forced him down and then they forced the plane down.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a whole thing. Right. Imagine if you like

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<v Speaker 3>missed like a wedding because like some jerk like me

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<v Speaker 3>decided to strip down and run up and down. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like for what?

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<v Speaker 4>Man? For what?

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<v Speaker 2>So you'd be like, I'm a rebel, Well not.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that, but yeah, so is that ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 2>That is ridiculous? There you go, absolutely ridiculous. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>know when you decide to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not going to now I've realized how silly

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<v Speaker 3>my adolescent dream that I've thought about for since back then.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not like thinking about this last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure you know what else is ridiculous?

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<v Speaker 3>No, but I'm here to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Bricks bricks.

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<v Speaker 2>This is ridiculous crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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<v Speaker 2>heists and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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<v Speaker 2>and one hundred percent ridiculous. You damn right, that is,

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<v Speaker 2>I am damn right. You know how much I love

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<v Speaker 2>to mess up the pronunciation of French names and words. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>like I live for it, call it saren as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I makes me feel alive.

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<v Speaker 3>You're very good at it, though, I think when you're

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<v Speaker 3>good at something like that, you should be able to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I should I shouldn't hide my light under a.

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<v Speaker 3>Bushel, No, burn down that bushel.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know something is you like to say? Buckle up, Buttercup,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about to wreck shop.

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<v Speaker 4>Really.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you have Toddler and a glass factory.

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<v Speaker 2>Zaren on an airplane. I have for you a Swindler,

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<v Speaker 2>a magnificent one. A gal for the ages. Her name Terrace.

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<v Speaker 3>Umbert terrase Umbad.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like a humber Yeah, teres English.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't look nearly as cool as it sounds in French.

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<v Speaker 2>She was born in a little town outside of Toulouse, France.

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<v Speaker 3>So Humbert Humbert's grandmother born outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Of in eighteen fifty six.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going back in totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Her dad was how do you say, unconventional, A real character.

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<v Speaker 2>He fancied himself an alchemist.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm already on.

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<v Speaker 2>Which it is just fantastic. I don't mean enough people

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<v Speaker 2>who introduce themselves as alchemist.

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<v Speaker 3>This is my husband. He's an alchemist.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't run in like thenk. But it's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a way to support a family.

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<v Speaker 3>You're making gold, I mean you're literally making goals.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said he had a line on some real cash. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He would tell any and everyone about how he was

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<v Speaker 2>descended from nobility. Okay, and oh, by the way, he

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<v Speaker 2>had a hidden inheritance. Oh those are the best. Guess

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite kind of inheritance, the hidden.

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<v Speaker 3>And overseas ideally, like maybe in a castle.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this book La Terras, The Greatest Scandal of the Century.

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<v Speaker 2>It's by a woman named Hillary Spurling. Later, yes, take notes.

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<v Speaker 2>So in it, she writes about how the neighbors would

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<v Speaker 2>see him running through their fields during thunderstorms, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>as part of his alchemy. And he'd be like carrying

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<v Speaker 2>a wand and yelling about how he could control the weather,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, that's totally a thing, like you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>People can and do control the weather for years and

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<v Speaker 2>earth israt and I never paid attention in school. I

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<v Speaker 2>do my own research, Sarah. So when he wasn't out

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<v Speaker 2>there making it rain, he was regaling folks with the

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<v Speaker 2>stories that he had about his you know, secret nobility.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he was also be able to find water.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that was Terrace's married name, her maiden name, Ornyak.

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<v Speaker 2>So her dad was like, my last name isn't really.

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<v Speaker 3>Ornyak, Oh, throw a curve ball in this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Dorinak, like the apostrophe of the or of the

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<v Speaker 2>rather than just it. It makes a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally mean he's landed right, Yeah, so he would.

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<v Speaker 2>He would also confess that while he lived in that

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<v Speaker 2>cottage over there, that wasn't really his house. No, he

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<v Speaker 2>lived in a castle not too far from where they were.

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<v Speaker 3>You just can't see it. From you.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't see it. And he said, well, I got

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<v Speaker 2>into it with my parents and they threw me out,

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<v Speaker 2>but they like put a caveat on it. So his

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<v Speaker 2>parents said, when when you finally die, which is like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>any kids that you have are going to inherit everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they're just like, we're skipping you. Yeah, you've been

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<v Speaker 3>written out exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the kids, they're going to get the chateau

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<v Speaker 2>like super fancy want of fun, doesn't it cold? I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's toss a lot to heat his chateau.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about these things.

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<v Speaker 3>You should own one.

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<v Speaker 2>And I should visit exactly uh. And then they're not

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<v Speaker 2>only the titles and the chateau. Money's aron So that's

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<v Speaker 2>such fun too. Yeah. I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all good fun stuff so far.

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<v Speaker 2>So these are the wild fortunes of the dying Yack,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, you're doing great, by the way, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much. So to prove this to people, he'd

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<v Speaker 2>show everyone this locked chest that he had in the

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<v Speaker 2>house class and that was proof of the story, because

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<v Speaker 2>all the documentation necessary to replace the family to their

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<v Speaker 2>former and intended glory, it was all in the chest.

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<v Speaker 2>The chest could only be opened upon his death.

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<v Speaker 3>He slapped the top of it, you know, me family secret.

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<v Speaker 2>His baby's holding untold wealth paper for Miles oh Man.

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<v Speaker 3>And it will only be opened by his death, like

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<v Speaker 3>his death, like unlock some cosmic seal.

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<v Speaker 2>The light comes out until then, while he's still walking

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<v Speaker 2>this earth. It's just something to be admired, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a symbol of wonderful things.

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<v Speaker 3>To enjoy it for what it is exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And now Terrace, she believed all of this, well, Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>she borrowed her friend's jewelry, like all these people that

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<v Speaker 2>she knew, and she'd put it all on at once

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<v Speaker 2>and like sworn around and pretend to be like preparing

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<v Speaker 2>to be rich.

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<v Speaker 3>Now when you say borrowed, do they know she's borrowing?

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<v Speaker 3>It is the actual bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody pool your stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And let her do your royalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing necklaces and I'll put it on and I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>this is what it's going to feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't I look great? Guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And then her dad died. Oh look at that January.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh we all got to go sometimes. He went eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy four.

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<v Speaker 3>Great time to go for her.

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<v Speaker 2>She's eighteen years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect, Look at that legal, and now it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was time she would get her rightful inheritance and bid

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<v Speaker 2>her simple life goodbye.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet she's practiced this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the time came to open the chest. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>fuild the treasure, the will and testaments and documents and

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<v Speaker 2>the parchments and such. Everyone gathers to open it. They

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<v Speaker 2>find that it contains just one thing, a brick, just

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<v Speaker 2>a brick.

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<v Speaker 3>Just one break a brick, just to give it some way,

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<v Speaker 3>to give it some hef is it even tape down

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<v Speaker 3>so it doesn't slap.

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<v Speaker 2>Around rattling around this She is humiliated. So like, not

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<v Speaker 2>only was everything a lie and she's not some like comtesses,

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<v Speaker 2>but now she had to get a job.

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<v Speaker 3>And the hell out of town because everybody knows her

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<v Speaker 3>and she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Got three younger siblings to take care of. So she

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<v Speaker 2>got a job as a washer woman. She got hired

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<v Speaker 2>by her half aunt.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I guess only better than not doing leather tanning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm guessing that her half aunt would be

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<v Speaker 2>her dad's half sister.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not taking a guess on this, I trust you, though, But.

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<v Speaker 2>This lady, the half aunt or just half a person,

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<v Speaker 2>like she's just from the waist up, half woman, half aunt,

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<v Speaker 2>like bisected from the oh that way, yeah, so like

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<v Speaker 2>you like, and she puts like.

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<v Speaker 3>You see her from one side.

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<v Speaker 2>She looks like flexiglass, so you can see the brain

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<v Speaker 2>and the organs.

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<v Speaker 3>You did go to a veterinary school, I could you

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<v Speaker 3>just jumped out? I was like, you went to a

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<v Speaker 3>veterinary college. No, I really got a glass and you

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<v Speaker 3>can see inside. You jumped out, but you can't hide

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<v Speaker 3>it now.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to weather controlling. So anyway, so the half

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<v Speaker 2>aunt just a half person. She was married even though

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<v Speaker 2>she was he was into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully she was one and a half people, just a balance.

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<v Speaker 2>Leg bouncing around, but plexiglass. Anyway, it was like the

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<v Speaker 2>it was like the November rain video exactly, you know. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, she's married to this guy, Gustave Umbert, the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of Toulouse. Right, he's a big timer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah sure, why not.

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<v Speaker 2>So while she's like washing their toonies, she meets their

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<v Speaker 2>son like Umbert yeah Frederick. So if you do the math,

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<v Speaker 2>you see that this is her cousin. She was like

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<v Speaker 2>super supportive of him. She meets him like midw washing,

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<v Speaker 2>like oh hey, what's up She just gassed him up

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<v Speaker 2>and fed his ego. And she told him reach for

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<v Speaker 2>the stars because you'll get there and you're an awesome guy. Yeah, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>Like she rubs his shoulders, He's like yeah. And so

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<v Speaker 2>while she's making him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like George W. Bush, like harassing angela merkle at

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<v Speaker 3>a world.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's making him feel great about himself.

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<v Speaker 3>That's important, but.

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<v Speaker 2>She also made him feel great about her. That's also important,

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<v Speaker 2>telling him about how she had been so helpful to

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<v Speaker 2>this old lady named Madame de Mariotte.

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<v Speaker 3>Madame, I make it sound worse. I made you're good horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>So Madame de Mariotte, she'd taken a shine to terrace

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<v Speaker 2>and as thanks for her kindness, bequeathed her a chateau.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh not a second brick, maybe some.

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<v Speaker 2>More chateau, this large estate, massive fortune. So he was

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<v Speaker 2>so nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, how nice? Was like Howard Hughes, like,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy helped me one time, and I'm giving a million.

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<v Speaker 2>So nice. She's nice to Frederick. She's like, let me

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<v Speaker 2>rub your shoulders.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. I remember, so awesome. I saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did this to some lady and she was, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>So much, touching everything on own.

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<v Speaker 2>This this estate is bigger than anyone could ever imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like infinity.

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<v Speaker 3>She doesn't have any like family around to protect her

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<v Speaker 3>from this charlatan.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's apparently not. So she's telling him this like

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<v Speaker 2>while she's rubbing his toes, and she's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really like, Oh, it's not a big deal. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I never tell anyone this. Let's just keep it

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<v Speaker 2>between us.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, this is just a story she's telling, just homie. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so she.

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<v Speaker 2>Tells them when I turned twenty one, it's all going

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<v Speaker 2>to be mine.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she's gone back to her original story.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the best trust fun ever and since it

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<v Speaker 2>really didn't matter to her, and since Frederick was such

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<v Speaker 2>a radical, battical dude, she planned to just give it

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<v Speaker 2>to him when she got it. Half daddy, Yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 2>totally turning him out. So anyway, Frederick was maybe not

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<v Speaker 2>the sharpest tool in the chateau shed. He bought the

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<v Speaker 2>whole story, like paid for it too. Basically, he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're super nice to everybody. This lady's going to

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<v Speaker 2>give you the biggest fortune ever, and you just want

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<v Speaker 2>me to have it because I'm amazing. You're right, I'm amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I could say, that's all makes sense. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you seem charming all I'm doe total sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So of course this woman he didn't know well, but

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<v Speaker 2>also happened to be his cousin who was washing his

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<v Speaker 2>family's closed down up creek really about to be super rich.

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<v Speaker 2>As a measure of thanks for this, he proposed to

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<v Speaker 2>her and asked for her hand in marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a really interesting way of telling these people's motivations, so.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to lock this in before she changes. And,

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<v Speaker 2>as you can probably guess, his dad, the mayor, was

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<v Speaker 2>not about it.

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<v Speaker 3>He said no, no, no, He's like, there is no shut.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you don't you remember what happened to her crazy dad?

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<v Speaker 3>Remember when that guy tried to sell you the magic beans.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, but we control the weather, dad, so no worries.

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<v Speaker 2>They ran off to Paris, and it looked that no

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<v Speaker 2>one understood their love and her bank account.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you imagine being the father of this boy I

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<v Speaker 3>just don't even know. Eighteen nineteen years in my life

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<v Speaker 3>dedicated to this idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's like my wife, half a woman, my son

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<v Speaker 2>half a brain. So but things worked out for them

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<v Speaker 2>in Paris. Oh, fred took the bar, became a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, why not? Sure, he seems real sharp.

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<v Speaker 2>They lived this lovely, quiet life, and Freddie soon realized,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there is a Madame de Mariotte. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't.

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<v Speaker 3>The lawyer figured this out on his own.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a chateau. There's no inheritance. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, by this time, too late loved her.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, soul, I love my lying wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, and he had a good job, and like

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<v Speaker 2>they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Need the money. They live in Paris. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>she could give up crime.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, you know, my wife, like she's prone to

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<v Speaker 2>flights of fancy, goofy dad, you know if she tells

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<v Speaker 2>a tall tale, so beet, Yeah, all the more charming.

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<v Speaker 2>But then she came to him with a proposition. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>remember remember how he met, and remember how you totally

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<v Speaker 2>fell from my story about the chateau and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>How about we try that on someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>Why.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, let's take you from victim to accomplish. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>move let's move you up the ranks. So he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>we could use a fake chateau. Let's call it the

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<v Speaker 2>Chateau de Mark cooked my God, as collateral for a

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<v Speaker 2>bank loan. Let's do that, and then we can use

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<v Speaker 2>that loan to move into an actual chateau. Like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get that castle life going. Frederick, not realizing that she

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of insulting his intelligence, decided to go with

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<v Speaker 2>it because he wanted a chateau one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm worried about this boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well before long, mister and missus Frederic Umbert or monsieur

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<v Speaker 2>and Madame Frederic Umbert, you say so, sure, they moved

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<v Speaker 2>into an actual castle of their own.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy for them, and that lifted up.

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<v Speaker 2>They wore the best clothes, the aid at all the

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<v Speaker 2>best restaurants. They had like primo seats in the theater,

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<v Speaker 2>all on credit.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope their castle has a mote.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to know what's more important than throwing away

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<v Speaker 2>money at a strip club? What is credit?

0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:12.360
<v Speaker 3>It is?

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<v Speaker 2>So now, when you're getting credit based on badass chateau,

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<v Speaker 2>it's only natural for the creditors to want to see

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<v Speaker 2>this chateau, especially because like no one had ever heard

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>You kind of want a certified assets.

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<v Speaker 2>It was supposed to be. Like in the southwest of France,

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<v Speaker 2>like to Lose. There was one contractor who was owed

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<v Speaker 2>money by them, and he's out on vacation near where

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<v Speaker 2>the chateau is supposed to be. So he asks all over,

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<v Speaker 2>no one's.

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<v Speaker 5>Heard of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So word starts to spread among the bankers and the

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<v Speaker 2>shopkeepers and such who had loan money and like sold

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<v Speaker 2>goods on credit. They're going to the cops. They're like

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<v Speaker 2>they want to press criminal charges because they realized there's

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<v Speaker 2>no chateau. So Frederick, he's making good money, but not

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<v Speaker 2>chateau money, Like he couldn't pay everything back. So he

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<v Speaker 2>goes to his dad. He had moved on from being

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<v Speaker 2>the mayor of to Lose and at this point he's

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<v Speaker 2>the Minister of Justice for the whole country. What Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So fred tells his dad everything, all the parts of

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<v Speaker 2>the cons and his dad, who's this like rising star.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want to be disgraced, and you know.

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<v Speaker 3>A bunch Yeah, everyone realize he has a failed son.

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<v Speaker 2>He was an idiot, like he paid off the debt. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that way they avoid arrest, bills get paid.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember I was saying about being the father of the son.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, but terrase. She noticed something, just a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of money seemed to calm the creditors down, and when

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<v Speaker 2>they saw their accounts paid off, they offered more loans.

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<v Speaker 2>What yeah, funny, though, let's do that again. Was she reckoned?

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<v Speaker 2>Like if she and her husband can come up with

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<v Speaker 2>another story and made the creditors anticipate a payday at

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<v Speaker 2>some point, they might as well give it a shot

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<v Speaker 2>round two.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So she starts spreading a rumor that she has received

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy inheritance and it was totally unexpected, unusual, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know remember how she got Frederick initially like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so kind. Well one more time she told people that.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple years back in eighteen seventy nine, she was

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<v Speaker 2>riding on the centur Railway, small railway that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>ran a circle around the city of Parish. Cool, just

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<v Speaker 2>minding her own Suddenly she hears groans from the next compartment.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, hubb hub, No more like nine one one,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your emergency? So she tried the door and it

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<v Speaker 2>was locked. She goes out the window of the train

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<v Speaker 2>on her in her compartment and like Shimmy's along the

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the train. Tom cruise style.

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<v Speaker 3>Does she telling this story? Are you telling me the story?

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<v Speaker 2>Telling the story? I'm not making this. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>she told people. And then she popped in the window

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<v Speaker 2>of the neighboring compartment and found a man there having

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<v Speaker 2>a heart attack, and like, she always carried a defibrillator

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<v Speaker 2>on her, so she started compression. Except the pads knows Zarin,

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<v Speaker 2>that is historically a nachronus. She revived the man with

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<v Speaker 2>some smelling salts that she carried on her, which leads

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<v Speaker 2>me to believe that he was not actually having a

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<v Speaker 2>heart attack.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course this is if you believe he exists

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>That was where I was at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, according to her story, the man came to

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<v Speaker 2>introduced himself. He's like, hello, I am handsome American millionaire

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Henry Crawford. I cannot thank you enough for saving

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<v Speaker 2>my life. I'd like to reward you at some point

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<v Speaker 2>in the future, and I will do so in a

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<v Speaker 2>convoluted manner. And so she told people like she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>guess what this is now that she's ready to do

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<v Speaker 2>another con Hey, everybody, I just got a letter from

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<v Speaker 2>the USA. Would you look at that. And this letter

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<v Speaker 2>said that Crawford had died and made her a beneficiary of.

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<v Speaker 3>His will, this young man.

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<v Speaker 2>There are stipulations in the well, of course. So the

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<v Speaker 2>main thing is that Teres and her husband must look

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<v Speaker 2>after the family fortune. And what's wild is that the

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<v Speaker 2>family fortune is kept in a sealed safe. No, this

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<v Speaker 2>one could have It wasn't to be opened upon anyone's death.

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<v Speaker 3>He already died.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this one could only be cracked open once Teresa's

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:07.920
<v Speaker 2>younger sister, Marie was old enough to marry Henry Crawford,

0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 2>one of Crawford's nephews. Yeah, this is big.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like old, like Middle Ages style.

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<v Speaker 2>Are she's digging in She's like Chateau tal So it's

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<v Speaker 2>so crazy that she has another secret inheritance that has

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<v Speaker 2>to be kept in the sealed safe, like what.

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<v Speaker 3>Are the chances?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and she wasn't going to let this spectacle go unspectacled,

0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.520
<v Speaker 2>So she has this heavily publicized event. She installs a

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<v Speaker 2>fireproof safe in her bedroom, hires a magistrate to act

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<v Speaker 2>as a notary. She made this huge show of putting

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<v Speaker 2>the documents and securities in the safe, just making sure

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<v Speaker 2>that She and the notary were the only ones there

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<v Speaker 2>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like parchment and calligraphy.

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<v Speaker 2>She sealed the safe with hot wax and then promised

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<v Speaker 2>it would not be open until her sister's twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>First Birthdayssive stage Craft.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a break, please, I need to go check

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<v Speaker 2>on my safe. When we return, we'll continue with the

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<v Speaker 2>adventures of Teray Soumbert, Queen of the Phony inheritances Zarin.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's my government name. But yes, yeah, I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>you to call me Dizzy for the rest of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. What did I want to be called Dizzy?

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<v Speaker 2>And tiger?

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<v Speaker 3>Tiger?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I'm not feeling that one. Yeah, anyway, thank you,

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:46.200
<v Speaker 2>So we have let's go back to my story. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we have the precious documents in the safe.

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<v Speaker 3>Wax sealed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, wax sealed, all the dim bulbs handing out money.

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.879
<v Speaker 2>Saw this as the perfect green light for giving her

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<v Speaker 2>her husband even more dough. I mean they had a

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<v Speaker 2>will in their Zarin, Robert Henry Crawford handsome, too handsome.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk for a moment about what was in

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<v Speaker 2>the safe. There's the initial letter. This is what she

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<v Speaker 2>says is the initial letter from American millionaire Robert Henry Crawford.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the will that said her sister had to marry

0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Crawford's nephew in order for Terrace to collect. Yes, but

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<v Speaker 2>she spread rumors of another will. This one left everything

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<v Speaker 2>to Terrace's younger sister in Crawford's to American nephews.

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<v Speaker 3>So if she married, she started rumors of this guy

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<v Speaker 3>had a better will.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then Teresa was like, oh, but there's a

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<v Speaker 2>third document, And in that one, the two Crawford nephews

0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:51.280
<v Speaker 2>agreed to give their uncle's fortune to Terrace while the

0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 2>dispute over the competing wills was being resolved. So she's

0:22:55.080 --> 0:23:01.000
<v Speaker 2>just creating drama on whitless pointless drama. Oh and ps,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a deed up in there. And in that, the

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<v Speaker 2>Crawford boys agreed to waive their claim to their uncle's

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<v Speaker 2>vast fortune in return for a payoff of six million

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:13.159
<v Speaker 2>francs and the promise that one of them would be

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to wed Terrase's younger sister. Okay, the sister must

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 2>be a real looker. Oh yeah, maybe not so much.

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:24.679
<v Speaker 4>So.

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.520
<v Speaker 2>But they're begging, like, please please let me marry your sister.

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes, she seems like your family, I really want to

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.800
<v Speaker 3>go too.

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.200
<v Speaker 2>So Terrace used her story to get a huge loan,

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 2>and she told her bankers that if they lent her

0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 2>six million francs, she'd cut the Crawford nephews out of

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 2>the will.

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness.

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Then the whole hundred million francs would be hers and

0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:51.000
<v Speaker 2>she'd pay everyone back with like major interests.

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 3>And the bankers are like, I know a guy who

0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 3>does wet work.

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:55.719
<v Speaker 2>The bakers are like, well that sounds on the up

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:57.200
<v Speaker 2>and up. Perfect love to do.

0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 3>This profit profit profits.

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.440
<v Speaker 2>So you know, Teresa, her husband, they got this newfound

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 2>supply of cash. They bought a big, fancy new house.

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 2>She turned it into this destination for socialites. She threw

0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 2>grand parties with like high level guests, like political figures, nobility,

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 2>like high business people, entertainers. She bought a newspaper and

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:23.960
<v Speaker 2>had her friend run it. This guy our main cas.

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Was just like a really big like.

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Paper. And her friend was this radical muckraker and her

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:35.159
<v Speaker 2>father in law, the former mayor. No, you know, he

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.400
<v Speaker 2>was a progressive. So she used the paper to campaign

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 2>to have him elected to French parliament. Wow. And so

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 2>she she bought this like really hard to get box

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 2>at the opera that there's this long waiting list, and

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 2>she jumped to the front everything. And then she became

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 2>like a big benefactor to the opera. So she and

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Frederick they lived in luxury for like two days acades.

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Are you king dead serious? They spent the money that

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.639
<v Speaker 2>they had on these this high life, the parties and

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the opulence. They had toilet brushes with pink satin bows

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 2>on them. The banks are just waving like that's the

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 2>that's too much.

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 3>They're waiting for the daughter to come of age. They're

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 3>timing their part.

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:22.239
<v Speaker 2>There's always stalling it, always stalling it. She's got all

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 2>these stalls. They had a maid who would polish the

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 2>safe once a week. They expanded their housing to three

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 2>country chateaus, and then they threw in a yacht for

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 2>good measure. So many parties there in fashion terrase loved hats,

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 2>but not like normal ones. She liked like beach blanket,

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Babylon hats, like the big hats, crazy feathers, bake fruit.

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 2>She had one that looked like an oversized leech was

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 2>sucking her head.

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 3>That's what she wanted.

0:25:57.119 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, She's like give me leech, but make it fash. Yeah,

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:06.199
<v Speaker 2>it's fashion sweaty. So so one of her creditors that

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 2>was like me suspicious and impatiently those are my two

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 2>most prominent traits. Yes, this dude, di Latte.

0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Also, you're a really good dancer, and.

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm a super good dancer. I'm a triple threat, impatient, suspicious.

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:28.399
<v Speaker 2>So de Latte, right, he wants his money and he

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 2>wants it now, and things aren't adding up. So one

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 2>day he just is like casually asked talking to Terrace

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, so, where does Henry Crawford live? And I'm,

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, just wondering, just make a conversation, small talks,

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:44.959
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, oh, he lives in Summerville, which is

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.440
<v Speaker 2>this tony Boston suburb. That makes sense, you know, Okay,

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 2>but he didn't buy it. So he quietly made his

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 2>way to Marseille and took the first available boat to

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 2>the United States.

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 3>He's like, take me to Somerville.

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he wanted to meet this Crawford guy confirmed

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the story Zarin. He was shipping up to Boston. So

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 2>he gets to Boston, starts asking around heads to Somerville.

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 2>No one's ever heard of Henry Crawford. He tries the

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 2>city of right exactly. He tries the city, goes to

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 2>all these other suburbs, nothing, never heard of them. So

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 2>he's like, hmm, scratches his chin. He hired private investigators

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>and like, maybe the Frenchman just isn't well understood. You know,

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 2>we get some Americans on this, so Pi's they come

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>up empty. In fact, they can't find a millionaire named

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Henry Crawford anywhere in the whole entire country. So Delat

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 2>he's heated, like he I knew it. He immediately writes

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 2>to a friend in Paris. He's like, hey, Pow, I'm

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 2>in Boston. The Baked beans are to die for. But

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>most importantly to race Umber is a big faker and

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm on my way back asap. And when I get there,

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna blow up her life. PS go, Pats, I

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 2>just said that last part to you. Take you and Dave.

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, see how we're trying both silently to just get

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 3>past that.

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 2>So lat He goes to New York to set sail,

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 2>but he never made it to the ship. His body

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 2>was found in the East River. Wow, yeah, this isn't

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>one percent, because no one knows what happened to him,

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think Terrace's reach was that far.

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Did he telegraph the message?

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so phew. I don't know put on a boat.

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happened.

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know how it got there.

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Let's just I'll be frank. I'll be honest with.

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 4>You, man.

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. None of us were there, Carrier Pelican,

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So uh plan to expose Terrace died

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 2>with de Latte In eighteen ninety three, she starts up

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 2>this insurance company called Villager and this means life annuity,

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>and so she set it all up in a fancy

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>office building. She promoted it with this like crazy huge

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>prospectus that used unauthorized pictures of the President of South

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Africa and the Pope on it. They looking for it.

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I like the cut of his jip. Put him in there,

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>nice hat. She didn't bring in the big money makers

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 2>for this though. Instead she pulled in peasants and small

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>business owners scam as old as crime, and it worked.

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 2>She offered huge returns from these small investments, and she

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 2>paid out pretty quickly and didn't put people through like

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>endless paperwork and all of this, of course unsecured, so

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 2>it's this classic ponzi skin. She took in more than

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 2>forty million francs with this, that's nice. Yeah, small bits

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>she paid off to old investors while the rest went

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 2>into her bank account. From there, she and her husband

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 2>just paid off their creditors. So this is how they

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>were kept it going for twenty years. They still had

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>money issues. Like one time a bailiff came over like

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 2>to collect for a creditor, and terrase, she caused a

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 2>scene and threw her pearl necklace on the floor and everyone,

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>all these servants start scurrying around, and the bailiff to

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 2>pick up the pearls and like calm her down. And

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 2>then the clock in the parlor starts to chime five pm,

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and she just like super cold blooded, turns to the

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 2>bailiff and is like, it's five o'clock. Your writ has expired.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Get out of here, and has someone show him out

0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>because it only went until five pm.

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So then like when creditors did to get nervous,

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 2>then like Terrace would trot out the Crawford nephews and

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 2>so someone claiming to be one of the nephews, like Huey,

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Dewey or Oude and then would say, oh, you know what,

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>like I hear you have this debt, I want to

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 2>buy it from you, and you know, because those chits

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 2>too valuable to pass up, and I want to ruin

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:46.479
<v Speaker 2>that beautiful and charming Terrace is their damn rize. And

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 2>so the creditor is like, maybe this debt's too good

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>to let go of, and I think I might have

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 2>a huge payday coming, so he'd hold off in quiet

0:30:55.360 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>down demanded okay. So Terrace it all going by like

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 2>continuing to borrow huge sums of money, you got to

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>look like you're making money moves. And she figured the

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>inheritance issue was so convoluted that it would be tied

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 2>up in court and stall things even further. So she's

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>stalling and bringing in more money, but people are at

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>least starting to get officially suspicious. Renee waldeck Rousseau was

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 2>this distinguished lawyer politician, so he started trying to chase

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>down debt for creditors, and one of them was his

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>own son in law. Started Yeah, so he wanted to

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>RaSE taken down, and to do so, he teamed up

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>with the editor of the newspaper La Mataine. Right in

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>eighteen eighty three, the paper published an article that was

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>really just like attacking to Race, and they wanted to

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>be balanced in their reporting, so they let her father

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 2>in law, the Minister of Justice, chime in.

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 3>Mister Justice, and.

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>He totally supported all of her crazy tales. He's like, yep,

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 2>it's on the up and up. But this official with

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 2>the Bank of France, Jules Bezat, he didn't buy it

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 2>one bit. So he asked Terrace where her annuity company

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 2>was investing all the premiums its clients were paying, and

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 2>she was like, it's all in treasury bonds. He's like cool, cool, cool,

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>So then he goes to the Treasury. He's like quick

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 2>question and they look, there are no records of that

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 2>business buying any bonds. So he wanted to dig more,

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>but he's nervous, not that he'd end up in the

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 2>East River. The problem was that there were so many

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:33.120
<v Speaker 2>creditors that the debt was more than was supposed to

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 2>be in the will. Okay, yeah, and if someone called

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 2>in their loan it would collapse everything, taking banks and

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 2>investment firms too big to fail. But it had to

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 2>be called in sometime, and one brave banker decided to

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 2>pull the plug on the money. He wanted the safe opened,

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 2>and he took it to court. Zaron, Let's take a

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 2>break when we come back to court. Yes, Zaren, Yes,

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 2>do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth,

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 2>and nothing but the truth.

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 3>I was told I was going to court, but I

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 3>wasn't on trial.

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you are on trial. This is the trial of

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Zaren Burnett. Okay, so we're in court. One banker, yes,

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 2>has been enough enough pull the plug. So all I

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 2>have to say to you, Zarin, is closure. I want

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>you to picture it. It's nineteen oh one. You are

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 2>a court clerk in Paris, and the judge for whom

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 2>you work has been assigned to the terrees Umbert case.

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 2>You are thrilled because you love a good gossipy case.

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 2>This will not be boring. You know that you're wearing

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>your best beret for today and carrying your favorite baguette

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 2>in a paper bag. Today. The plaintiff's attorney has called

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 2>the two Crawford nephews to testify, Ol Henry and Robert.

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Henry takes the stand and prepares himself for question. Please

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 2>state your name. The attorney asks in French. Henry responds,

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 2>but in English, Well, howdy, partner, I am an American man,

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 2>and my name is Henry Crawford from the America, I

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 2>mean from America. Everyone in the gallery starts to snicker.

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.800
<v Speaker 2>This American accent is almost as bad as Elizabeth's French accent.

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Who's Elizabeth? You wonder? It's a fleeting moment, but you're confused,

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>must be the heat. Henry says he doesn't recall to

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of questions, and then is dismissed. Robert takes

0:34:53.840 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 2>the stand. Monsieur palonse, Uh, I mean no. Robert looks

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>around the courtroom, clears his throat, and blushes. The gallery laughs.

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>The attorney asks in French, and how are you acquainted

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>with the defendant? Robert responds in halting clumsy English. Uh,

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 2>my uncle met her on the train while on Comodton vacation.

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 2>He likes, how do you say cucumber? The court rrupts

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>in laughter. The judge bangs his gable, and Robert is dismissed.

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Now for Terrace, The attorney asks her about the nephews.

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Where do they live? Therees replies, uh, thirteen oh two Broadway. No, city,

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 2>no state, just the most generic American sounding address other

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 2>than one two three Main Street. Possible groans, laughs, fill

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the room. The judge bangs his gable calls for a recess.

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 2>You weren't disappointed? This one is entertaining, so zaren It

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 2>turns out that the crawford Us were actually Terrace's brothers.

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 3>What what?

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.399
<v Speaker 2>And they didn't do American accents very well, worse than

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>our accents, worse than hours. It's like in the reporting

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 2>of the time, is how bad the accents were. After this,

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 2>the trial goes on for a really long time, and

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:21.800
<v Speaker 2>then the judge rules, you know what, pop that safe? Really,

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>pop them college, pop them college. And there was almost

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 2>a problem with that. On May seventh, nineteen oh two,

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:32.880
<v Speaker 2>there was a fire at Teresa's place. No, but remember

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 2>the safe is fireproof.

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 3>That can I guess what burns?

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead?

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't want you tell me.

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:44.760
<v Speaker 2>The whole thing is terribly upsetting for Terrace. She doesn't

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't know what's burned. Whole house has gone up.

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know, she's like it was so upsetting that

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 2>she had to run. She went off to one of

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 2>her three country homes to me out of here.

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 3>She has to convalesce.

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the safe fireproof, so it survived, one would think,

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.439
<v Speaker 2>I think the wax melted filling. Well. So two days

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 2>later the government seized the safe and decided to open

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it in public workers. They haul the like charred safe

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 2>out into the street. They don't have a key. Race,

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 2>isn't there.

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 3>This is the original al Capone's vault. We're going to break, Yeah, So.

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 2>They they pulled out sledgehammers and crowbars and axes like

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 2>that'll open her up. And it took an hour to

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 2>bust the thing open, which is not very long I

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 2>would think for a safe, like if you really doing it. Yeah. Meanwhile,

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>a crowd had developed naturally.

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they didn't have anything else for entertainment.

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.280
<v Speaker 2>When I say crowd, I mean ten thousand people.

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 3>Where were they standing?

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 2>That was exactly my question. I'm trying to imagine this

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:54.120
<v Speaker 2>scene on like a really fancy residential street wherever, and there's.

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like heared standing seats.

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're in front of a charred, burned out shell

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 2>of a house. They've dragged this into the road and

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 2>ten thousand maniacs are gathered around.

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Are they just doing laps around the house?

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Taking turns peak and they jump and peek over. It's like, okay,

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.240
<v Speaker 2>so it stacks out and you've got people like maybe

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 2>standing on front step. Sure, yeah, how many blocks out?

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Does that go to pay ten? Do you think they

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 2>were exaggerating.

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting the idea a little bit.

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking so so exaggerating up. Oh, there's really fifty thousand.

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:33.439
<v Speaker 2>They're like they're all on the rooftops. So there's ten

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>thousand people, right, and there's like guys selling inflatable aliens

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 2>and like those light up necklaces. Yeah, carts selling sonor

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.759
<v Speaker 2>and hot dogs roll up. It's the works. They're going

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 2>all out, so with great drama. The door to the

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:51.439
<v Speaker 2>safe creaks open. I can tell you the contents did

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 2>not include a couple of letters and two wheels? What

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 2>there were no game boy?

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Wait? Would you reach me your favorite take a picture

0:38:58.560 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 3>of my face, because I'd like to see what I

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 3>look like when I'm surprised, just stunt shot.

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.959
<v Speaker 2>You know what else wasn't in there? Pats tickets? Yeah,

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 2>so I can't tell you what what was it?

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Who got the tickets?

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think they died with delut. Okay,

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 2>so here's what was in the There are three things,

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 2>an Italian coin, one one, a trouser button, and a brick,

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:32.360
<v Speaker 2>a callback with the brick like nicely done. So now

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 2>the shot is out of the bag. And it made

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 2>a mess of the French economy. So some of the

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 2>people that she scammed were like the safe deposit box owners,

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 2>and they didn't say anything because they didn't want to

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 2>be made a fool of well, and it's like, story

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 2>is so ridiculous. So the French press, though, got a

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 2>hold of the lists of the men and the women

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 2>who'd been duped to their fortune and just started running

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 2>printed names. And this included Empress Eugenie who's in exile,

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 2>the son of the president, and like all these like

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.960
<v Speaker 2>non influential small investors. So she's taking like.

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Talk to me, like we're talking like a Napoleonic princess

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 3>in exile.

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 2>And so you know who got caught up in all

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 2>of this. It's just a side note. Alri Matisse, the painter,

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 2>his in laws, the Pereres. Madame Pereire was Teres's housekeeper,

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and authorities thought that like she and her husband were

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 2>somehow in on this, and somehow Terrace would bring in

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>the housekeeper and.

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's like a cultural bias, like the type of person.

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Perhaps. Yeah, and so they arrested Monsieur Pereire and then

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 2>they even searched Matissa's studio. He got oh yeah, he

0:40:58.520 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>gets pulled into the I love.

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 3>How he's like famous artists get pulled in. We have

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Picasso get pulled in.

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I feel for them.

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Round up the French artists.

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>The family becomes total scapegoats. And like because Terrace like she's.

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Not around right, yeah, she's at the country home.

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's just directing their anger at the parade man.

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 3>That's left literally holding the bag of no sense.

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like, why are you attacking the workers instead of

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 2>the fat cat?

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 3>But whatever, the violently rich one.

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So uh, Monsieur Pereire he goes on a hunger

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 2>strike in protest, and he didn't have a lawyer, so

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Matisse represented him.

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 3>I am so confused by this and.

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Was supporting the whole family.

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.880
<v Speaker 3>It's just because he could read. Is there some benefit

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 3>to having him do this.

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 2>It's just a good dude. I don't know. But then okay,

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:51.280
<v Speaker 2>so you're saying.

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 3>You got like Matisa in like the courtroom, painting your defense.

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 2>And he like, look at that.

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Everything's picture the whole event.

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Everyone stands back and just kind of stares. You know,

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 2>he's just painting. That's a great defense though, So he's

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>just paying people off the paintings. So you know, we're

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 2>talking about like Terrace is. She had like a country.

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 2>She and her family fled to Spain. She got out

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>out wow. Yeah, and they got arrested in Madrid December

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 2>of nineteen oh two, dragged back to Paris to be tried.

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 2>A lot of information about the creditors and the delicate

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 2>nature of the French banking system because of Terrace came

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 2>to light in the trial, and she just kept saying

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 2>that she's innocent, she didn't do anything wrong. She did

0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 2>admit like, okay, fine, there's no Henry Crawford, you know,

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 2>handsome America. Fine, but she said, okay, so there's no

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Henry Crawford, but there is an inheritance.

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Did anyone go praying that?

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Everyone? Oh God? So she's like, all right, it actually

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 2>came from Marshall Bazaine.

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:05.240
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 2>So he's the one who surrendered to Prussia at the

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Siege of Metz and he was tried for treason because

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 2>here he gives it all up.

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Sure, this is like, why would she want to claim him?

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 3>Take on?

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>So this is out. He has this long and storied

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 2>military career, He gets sentenced to death, escapes to Spain,

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 2>and he died like a dozen years before this all

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 2>goes down with Terrace. So Terrace is like, look, Bazaine,

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:35.960
<v Speaker 2>he got four million pounds from Prussia for his betrayal,

0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Like he sold out our country for that, and then

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 2>somehow I ended up with that money. But I wouldn't

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.760
<v Speaker 2>have taken it if I knew where it came from.

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, in fact, when I found out it

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 2>was dirty Prussian cash, an enemy bribe, it burned it

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>while singing La Marseilles totally.

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:57.919
<v Speaker 3>Now do you think that that she actually was doing,

0:43:57.960 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 3>like maybe money laundering for him? And that's where she

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 3>came up the story target. She just picked somebody who

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:08.120
<v Speaker 3>everyone knew was had money and is dead and everyone story.

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 2>She's like, who do you hate? I got someone you

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 2>hate more than that.

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 3>You know who ruined your house? Got Zilla? Not me? Okay,

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 3>I got it.

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:19.280
<v Speaker 2>So she said that that's why the safe was empty.

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I burned the cash because I'm a patriot.

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 3>Dang it, I did it for you. What did you

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 3>do for?

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 2>French judge? Though? What does the judge say to this quote?

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 2>But it does not explain ziblick?

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Madame, good point.

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.239
<v Speaker 2>You know I love a callback. Here's the brick. So

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the trial went on for six weeks. Terrace was found guilty,

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 2>sentenced to five years of solitary confinement with hard labor. Uh.

0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Frederick got the same deal. Her brothers, the fake Crawford nephews,

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 2>they got two and three years, respectively. I'm not sure

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 2>who got what, but whatever, I don't know who cares.

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I honestly just don't care. Her sister Marie and her

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 2>daughter Eve, and then her deceased father in law that

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 2>just disminister.

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, they're all labeled as victims instead of conspiratorsy.

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh for real, I thought they were all going to

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 3>be left. Hold.

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Marie was just a pawn in this, Like she's being

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 2>offered to marry off to these invisible men. She can't

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 2>probably can't marry anyone else because of it. Yeah. So

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.439
<v Speaker 2>most people think that when she got out, she moved

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:26.320
<v Speaker 2>to the United States, Chicago to be specific, would be

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 2>a good place for her. Yeah, and they say that

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 2>she passed away in nineteen eighteen. But there's absolutely no

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 2>paperwork to back this up.

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 3>But there was a war going on.

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 2>A list there was come on be Sensitive a prosecutor

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>who went to Madrid to take her back to Paris.

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 2>He wrote in a paper that quote Terrees Umbert is

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 2>still living poorly in Paris. She has lost her miraculous vitality.

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 2>What a reverse of fortune. Her golden past has left her.

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.280
<v Speaker 2>She is a quite humble old lady who never speaks

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.440
<v Speaker 2>to anyone. So he's like, she didn't make it to Chicago.

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:03.040
<v Speaker 2>She's a loser. Keep Hayton on her, because she's alive

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:03.600
<v Speaker 2>and a lose.

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you where she is if you got a

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 3>rotten tomato you want to toss.

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing though, the article had two pictures in it.

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah. In one there's like it's a door to

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 2>a house in Paris, and the caption here Boulevard de

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:20.919
<v Speaker 2>Butino lives today she who was lagran Terrees. So here's her.

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 3>House house, here's the street. Yeah, you can find it.

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 2>The second picture is like the same outside of the

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 2>house and like with a window, and it has the

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 2>caption behind these windows with white curtains. Terrees Sumbert meditates

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 2>on her past, so like all right, boys, roll on out.

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Frederick he died in nineteen thirty six, and in all

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 2>of his records he's not listed as a widower.

0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Really got married.

0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I think she's still alive today. So that author of

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 2>LaGrand Terrees, Hillary Sperling, this is what she had to

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>say about Teresa's legacy. If she had chosen books instead

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 2>of real life as the medium for her romantic fictions

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 2>about missing deeds, locked coffers, surprise legacies, and long lost parents,

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 2>she would have been a nineteenth century bestseller totally. I

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:18.800
<v Speaker 2>love that, Zara. That's your ridiculous takeaway.

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for asking. Elizabeth. It's very nicey, very dear,

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:21.920
<v Speaker 3>very sweet.

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I am so nice to so many people,

0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:25.120
<v Speaker 2>and as.

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 3>A result, you have all those fortunes, last.

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Secret fortunes that I can't I don't like to tell

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 2>people about her nickname.

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if this is a nickname she was used,

0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 3>but the book The grom Teresa, Yeah, I like that

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 3>because Terry the Great Teresa sounds like like a magician,

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:42.400
<v Speaker 3>like a you know, like an eleven year old girl,

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 3>who's a magician. It's the great Teresa. Like in the backyard,

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 3>you got a handmade sign painted exactly I like it.

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Her sister painted it for her, who's also her assistant,

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 3>who's getting cut in half? You get it? The greater there?

0:47:56.280 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 2>It is, all came together.

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Call back, You're welcome. What heres Elizabeth?

0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>My takeaway is that I got to start really working

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 2>on my can game because it looks so easy.

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Dude, there's so much money we're just leaving out there.

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.479
<v Speaker 3>It's just just seeing my weight in pockets that want

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 3>to be in ours.

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Because I love to tell outlandish tales, why not get

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 2>paid for it?

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<v Speaker 3>Totally? I mean you kind of do well.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of uh Dave, I need to talk back?

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<v Speaker 3>Got one here?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 3>Did s I l cheat?

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<v Speaker 4>Hello?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there? And Elizabeth?

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<v Speaker 6>First, I want to thank you for giving me some

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<v Speaker 6>of the most ridiculous did you know? Facts to share

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<v Speaker 6>at parties and gatherings. It keeps my invitation list low.

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<v Speaker 6>And second, while I'm here, I'd like to confess to

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<v Speaker 6>a ridiculous crime. My father is a pediatrician, and all

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<v Speaker 6>through school I made a fair amount of money selling

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<v Speaker 6>doctor's notes, and as I grew up in a very

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<v Speaker 6>small town. I had to learn to become a signature

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<v Speaker 6>forger as well, so that no one would know they

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<v Speaker 6>weren't from him. I'm not giving my name as I

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<v Speaker 6>remain unidentified by any interested authorities. Love the show, Keep

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<v Speaker 6>up the good work.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. And it's not scripts just doing doctors no.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for like missing school, I'm assuming you can't do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's genius. And she's doing the lord's work.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's great. I used to have to go to

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<v Speaker 3>doctors offices and steal those pads for myself, and she's

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<v Speaker 3>just like doing it one at a time. So much better,

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<v Speaker 3>so much smarter, so good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it for today. You can find us online at

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous crime dot com. We're also at Ridiculous Crime on

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<v Speaker 2>I think we will probably have new merch or we

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<v Speaker 2>do have y Yeah, there's like just going to be a.

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<v Speaker 3>Merch lands to check the website and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Reach out. Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and

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<v Speaker 2>Zaren Burnett, produced and edited by rich American uncle Dave Cousten,

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