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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: So good to see you, to see you too. I'm good.

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Speaker 2: How are you? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm fine, white ass.

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Speaker 2: How's your heart?

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Speaker 3: He's good, I'm fine. Good.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: I do? But you're asking?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 3: All right? So I have this back and forth idea

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Speaker 3: in my head like would it be fun to run

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Speaker 3: down the aisle of a plane naked or not? You know?

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Speaker 3: Cause I yeah, I say not. It was just like

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Speaker 3: it's like a nightmare people have, right, like oh, I'm

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Speaker 3: naked in my class or whatever. And I'm like, they

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Speaker 3: imagine the freedom of knowing you've run naked at thirty

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Speaker 3: six thousand and fifty thousand feet. I mean that's just

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Speaker 3: like I don't want to join the mile high club,

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Speaker 3: but I would like to streak club, right whatever that is,

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Speaker 3: Like I've streaked at fifty thousand feet?

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Speaker 2: Is fifty thousand?

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Speaker 3: These days a lot of plane gets up to fifty

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Speaker 3: thousand foot? Yeah, But anyway, my point is some dude

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Speaker 3: in Australia went and did it. Oh he did, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he went and he ran down the aisle of a plane,

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Speaker 3: right and then he had to be tackled by other

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Speaker 3: passengers and he was like, you know, bear is the

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Speaker 3: day he was born and he was Australian, so like

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Speaker 3: good eye on you, right, But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: like it made me realize that my dream was a shallow, fleeting,

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Speaker 3: silly thing, and that how terrible would be if I

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Speaker 3: ever did something like I let alone, like the horror

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Speaker 3: other people are experiencing because they're not part of it.

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Speaker 3: For me, I'm just like I want to I would

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Speaker 3: be on the plane by myself. I don't really, it's

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Speaker 3: not about they're not part of it. But he was like,

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Speaker 3: they're very much part of it. They were like, we

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Speaker 3: do not exclude us from this narrative, and then they

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Speaker 3: like forced him down and then they forced the plane down.

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Speaker 3: It's like a whole thing. Right. Imagine if you like

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Speaker 3: missed like a wedding because like some jerk like me

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Speaker 3: decided to strip down and run up and down. It's

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Speaker 3: like for what?

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Speaker 4: Man? For what?

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Speaker 2: So you'd be like, I'm a rebel, Well not.

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Speaker 3: Like that, but yeah, so is that ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: That is ridiculous? There you go, absolutely ridiculous. Let me

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Speaker 2: know when you decide to do that.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to now I've realized how silly

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Speaker 3: my adolescent dream that I've thought about for since back then.

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Speaker 3: I'm not like thinking about this last week.

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Speaker 2: Sure you know what else is ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: No, but I'm here to hear about it.

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Speaker 5: Bricks bricks.

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Speaker 2: This is ridiculous crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 2: heists and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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Speaker 2: and one hundred percent ridiculous. You damn right, that is,

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Speaker 2: I am damn right. You know how much I love

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Speaker 2: to mess up the pronunciation of French names and words. Yes,

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Speaker 2: like I live for it, call it saren as much

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Speaker 2: as I makes me feel alive.

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Speaker 3: You're very good at it, though, I think when you're

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Speaker 3: good at something like that, you should be able to know.

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Speaker 2: I should I shouldn't hide my light under a.

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Speaker 3: Bushel, No, burn down that bushel.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know something is you like to say? Buckle up, Buttercup,

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Speaker 2: I'm about to wreck shop.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you have Toddler and a glass factory.

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Speaker 2: Zaren on an airplane. I have for you a Swindler,

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Speaker 2: a magnificent one. A gal for the ages. Her name Terrace.

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Speaker 3: Umbert terrase Umbad.

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Speaker 2: It looks like a humber Yeah, teres English.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't look nearly as cool as it sounds in French.

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Speaker 2: She was born in a little town outside of Toulouse, France.

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Speaker 3: So Humbert Humbert's grandmother born outside.

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Speaker 2: Of in eighteen fifty six.

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Speaker 3: We're going back in totally.

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Speaker 2: Her dad was how do you say, unconventional, A real character.

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Speaker 2: He fancied himself an alchemist.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm already on.

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Speaker 2: Which it is just fantastic. I don't mean enough people

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Speaker 2: who introduce themselves as alchemist.

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Speaker 3: This is my husband. He's an alchemist.

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Speaker 2: I just don't run in like thenk. But it's definitely

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Speaker 2: a way to support a family.

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Speaker 3: You're making gold, I mean you're literally making goals.

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Speaker 2: But he said he had a line on some real cash. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He would tell any and everyone about how he was

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Speaker 2: descended from nobility. Okay, and oh, by the way, he

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Speaker 2: had a hidden inheritance. Oh those are the best. Guess

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Speaker 2: my favorite kind of inheritance, the hidden.

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Speaker 3: And overseas ideally, like maybe in a castle.

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Speaker 2: There's this book La Terras, The Greatest Scandal of the Century.

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Speaker 2: It's by a woman named Hillary Spurling. Later, yes, take notes.

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Speaker 2: So in it, she writes about how the neighbors would

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Speaker 2: see him running through their fields during thunderstorms, I guess

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Speaker 2: as part of his alchemy. And he'd be like carrying

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Speaker 2: a wand and yelling about how he could control the weather,

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Speaker 2: because you know, that's totally a thing, like you can't.

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Speaker 2: People can and do control the weather for years and

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Speaker 2: earth israt and I never paid attention in school. I

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Speaker 2: do my own research, Sarah. So when he wasn't out

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Speaker 2: there making it rain, he was regaling folks with the

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Speaker 2: stories that he had about his you know, secret nobility.

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Speaker 3: I think he was also be able to find water.

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Speaker 2: It's like that was Terrace's married name, her maiden name, Ornyak.

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Speaker 2: So her dad was like, my last name isn't really.

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Speaker 3: Ornyak, Oh, throw a curve ball in this.

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Speaker 2: It's Dorinak, like the apostrophe of the or of the

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Speaker 3: Totally mean he's landed right, Yeah, so he would.

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Speaker 2: He would also confess that while he lived in that

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Speaker 2: lived in a castle not too far from where they were.

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Speaker 3: You just can't see it. From you.

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Speaker 2: I can't see it. And he said, well, I got

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Speaker 2: into it with my parents and they threw me out,

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Speaker 2: but they like put a caveat on it. So his

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Speaker 2: parents said, when when you finally die, which is like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: any kids that you have are going to inherit everything.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they're just like, we're skipping you. Yeah, you've been

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Speaker 3: written out exactly right.

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Speaker 2: And so the kids, they're going to get the chateau

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Speaker 2: like super fancy want of fun, doesn't it cold? I

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Speaker 2: feel like it's toss a lot to heat his chateau.

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Speaker 2: I think about these things.

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Speaker 3: You should own one.

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Speaker 2: And I should visit exactly uh. And then they're not

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Speaker 2: only the titles and the chateau. Money's aron So that's

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Speaker 2: such fun too. Yeah. I like that.

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Speaker 3: This is all good fun stuff so far.

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Speaker 2: So these are the wild fortunes of the dying Yack,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, you're doing great, by the way, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. So to prove this to people, he'd

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Speaker 2: show everyone this locked chest that he had in the

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Speaker 2: house class and that was proof of the story, because

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Speaker 2: all the documentation necessary to replace the family to their

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Speaker 2: former and intended glory, it was all in the chest.

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Speaker 2: The chest could only be opened upon his death.

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Speaker 3: He slapped the top of it, you know, me family secret.

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Speaker 2: His baby's holding untold wealth paper for Miles oh Man.

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Speaker 3: And it will only be opened by his death, like

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Speaker 3: his death, like unlock some cosmic seal.

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Speaker 2: The light comes out until then, while he's still walking

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Speaker 2: this earth. It's just something to be admired, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's a symbol of wonderful things.

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Speaker 3: To enjoy it for what it is exactly.

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Speaker 2: And now Terrace, she believed all of this, well, Dad,

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Speaker 2: she borrowed her friend's jewelry, like all these people that

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Speaker 2: she knew, and she'd put it all on at once

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Speaker 2: and like sworn around and pretend to be like preparing

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Speaker 3: Now when you say borrowed, do they know she's borrowing?

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Speaker 3: It is the actual bar.

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Speaker 2: Everybody pool your stuff.

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Speaker 3: And let her do your royalty.

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Speaker 2: Thing necklaces and I'll put it on and I'll just

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Speaker 2: this is what it's going to feel like.

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Speaker 3: Don't I look great? Guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And then her dad died. Oh look at that January.

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Speaker 2: Oh we all got to go sometimes. He went eighteen

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Speaker 2: seventy four.

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Speaker 3: Great time to go for her.

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Speaker 2: She's eighteen years old.

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Speaker 3: Perfect, Look at that legal, and now it.

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Speaker 2: Was time she would get her rightful inheritance and bid

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Speaker 2: her simple life goodbye.

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Speaker 3: I bet she's practiced this moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the time came to open the chest. Yes,

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Speaker 2: fuild the treasure, the will and testaments and documents and

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Speaker 2: the parchments and such. Everyone gathers to open it. They

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Speaker 2: find that it contains just one thing, a brick, just

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Speaker 3: Just one break a brick, just to give it some way,

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Speaker 3: so it doesn't slap.

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Speaker 2: Around rattling around this She is humiliated. So like, not

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Speaker 2: only was everything a lie and she's not some like comtesses,

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Speaker 3: And the hell out of town because everybody knows her

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Speaker 2: Got three younger siblings to take care of. So she

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Speaker 2: got a job as a washer woman. She got hired

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Speaker 2: by her half aunt.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I guess only better than not doing leather tanning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm guessing that her half aunt would be

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Speaker 2: her dad's half sister.

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Speaker 3: I'm not taking a guess on this, I trust you, though, But.

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Speaker 2: This lady, the half aunt or just half a person,

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Speaker 2: like she's just from the waist up, half woman, half aunt,

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Speaker 2: like bisected from the oh that way, yeah, so like

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Speaker 3: You see her from one side.

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Speaker 2: She looks like flexiglass, so you can see the brain

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Speaker 2: and the organs.

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Speaker 3: You did go to a veterinary school, I could you

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Speaker 3: just jumped out? I was like, you went to a

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Speaker 3: veterinary college. No, I really got a glass and you

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Speaker 3: can see inside. You jumped out, but you can't hide

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Speaker 3: it now.

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Speaker 2: I went to weather controlling. So anyway, so the half

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Speaker 2: aunt just a half person. She was married even though

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Speaker 2: she was he was into it.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully she was one and a half people, just a balance.

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Speaker 2: Leg bouncing around, but plexiglass. Anyway, it was like the

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Speaker 2: it was like the November rain video exactly, you know. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So anyway, she's married to this guy, Gustave Umbert, the

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Speaker 2: mayor of Toulouse. Right, he's a big timer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah sure, why not.

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Speaker 2: So while she's like washing their toonies, she meets their

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Speaker 2: son like Umbert yeah Frederick. So if you do the math,

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Speaker 2: you see that this is her cousin. She was like

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Speaker 2: super supportive of him. She meets him like midw washing,

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Speaker 2: like oh hey, what's up She just gassed him up

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Speaker 2: and fed his ego. And she told him reach for

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Speaker 2: the stars because you'll get there and you're an awesome guy. Yeah, baby,

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Speaker 2: Like she rubs his shoulders, He's like yeah. And so

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Speaker 2: while she's making him.

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Speaker 3: He's like George W. Bush, like harassing angela merkle at

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Speaker 2: So she's making him feel great about himself.

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Speaker 3: That's important, but.

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Speaker 2: She also made him feel great about her. That's also important,

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Speaker 2: telling him about how she had been so helpful to

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Speaker 3: Madame, I make it sound worse. I made you're good horrible.

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Speaker 2: So Madame de Mariotte, she'd taken a shine to terrace

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Speaker 2: and as thanks for her kindness, bequeathed her a chateau.

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Speaker 3: Oh not a second brick, maybe some.

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Speaker 2: More chateau, this large estate, massive fortune. So he was

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Speaker 2: So nice. She's nice to Frederick. She's like, let me

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Speaker 3: Exactly. I remember, so awesome. I saw it.

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Speaker 2: I did this to some lady and she was, thank you.

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Speaker 3: So much, touching everything on own.

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Speaker 2: This this estate is bigger than anyone could ever imagine.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't have any like family around to protect her

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Speaker 2: Well it's apparently not. So she's telling him this like

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Speaker 2: mean I never tell anyone this. Let's just keep it

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is just a story she's telling, just homie. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: Tells them when I turned twenty one, it's all going

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Speaker 3: Like she's gone back to her original story.

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Speaker 2: This is the best trust fun ever and since it

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Speaker 2: really didn't matter to her, and since Frederick was such

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Speaker 2: totally turning him out. So anyway, Frederick was maybe not

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Speaker 3: He's like, I could say, that's all makes sense. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So of course this woman he didn't know well, but

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Speaker 2: As a measure of thanks for this, he proposed to

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Speaker 3: You have a really interesting way of telling these people's motivations, so.

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Speaker 2: He wanted to lock this in before she changes. And,

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Speaker 3: He said no, no, no, He's like, there is no shut.

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Speaker 2: Did you don't you remember what happened to her crazy dad?

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Speaker 3: Remember when that guy tried to sell you the magic beans.

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Speaker 2: He's like, but we control the weather, dad, so no worries.

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Speaker 2: They ran off to Paris, and it looked that no

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine being the father of this boy I

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Speaker 3: just don't even know. Eighteen nineteen years in my life

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like my wife, half a woman, my son

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Speaker 3: Of course, why not? Sure, he seems real sharp.

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Speaker 2: They lived this lovely, quiet life, and Freddie soon realized,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there is a Madame de Mariotte. No,

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Speaker 2: I just don't.

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Speaker 3: The lawyer figured this out on his own.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a chateau. There's no inheritance. But

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Speaker 2: you know what, by this time, too late loved her.

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Speaker 3: He's like, soul, I love my lying wife.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and he had a good job, and like

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Speaker 2: they don't.

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Speaker 3: Need the money. They live in Paris. I don't think

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Speaker 3: she could give up crime.

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Speaker 2: She's like, you know, my wife, like she's prone to

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Speaker 2: flights of fancy, goofy dad, you know if she tells

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Speaker 2: But then she came to him with a proposition. She's like,

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Speaker 2: How about we try that on someone else.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 2: She's like, let's take you from victim to accomplish. Let's

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Speaker 2: move let's move you up the ranks. So he's like,

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Speaker 2: we could use a fake chateau. Let's call it the

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Speaker 2: Chateau de Mark cooked my God, as collateral for a

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Speaker 2: bank loan. Let's do that, and then we can use

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Speaker 2: that loan to move into an actual chateau. Like, let's

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Speaker 2: get that castle life going. Frederick, not realizing that she

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Speaker 3: I'm worried about this boy.

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Speaker 2: Well before long, mister and missus Frederic Umbert or monsieur

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Speaker 2: and Madame Frederic Umbert, you say so, sure, they moved

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Speaker 3: I'm happy for them, and that lifted up.

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Speaker 2: They wore the best clothes, the aid at all the

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Speaker 3: I hope their castle has a mote.

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Speaker 2: You want to know what's more important than throwing away

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Speaker 2: money at a strip club? What is credit?

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Speaker 3: It is?

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Speaker 2: So now, when you're getting credit based on badass chateau,

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Speaker 2: it's only natural for the creditors to want to see

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Speaker 3: You kind of want a certified assets.

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Speaker 2: It was supposed to be. Like in the southwest of France,

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Speaker 2: like to Lose. There was one contractor who was owed

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Speaker 2: the chateau is supposed to be. So he asks all over,

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Speaker 5: Heard of it.

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Speaker 2: So word starts to spread among the bankers and the

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Speaker 2: they want to press criminal charges because they realized there's

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Speaker 2: chateau money, Like he couldn't pay everything back. So he

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Speaker 2: the Minister of Justice for the whole country. What Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So fred tells his dad everything, all the parts of

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be disgraced, and you know.

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Speaker 3: A bunch Yeah, everyone realize he has a failed son.

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Speaker 2: He was an idiot, like he paid off the debt. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that way they avoid arrest, bills get paid.

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Speaker 3: Remember I was saying about being the father of the son.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, but terrase. She noticed something, just a little bit

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Speaker 2: of money seemed to calm the creditors down, and when

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Speaker 2: What yeah, funny, though, let's do that again. Was she reckoned?

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Speaker 2: Like if she and her husband can come up with

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Speaker 2: some point, they might as well give it a shot

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Speaker 2: round two.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So she starts spreading a rumor that she has received

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Speaker 2: you know remember how she got Frederick initially like, oh

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Speaker 2: I'm so kind. Well one more time she told people that.

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Speaker 2: A couple years back in eighteen seventy nine, she was

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Speaker 2: minding her own Suddenly she hears groans from the next compartment.

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Speaker 2: She's like, hubb hub, No more like nine one one,

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Speaker 2: what's your emergency? So she tried the door and it

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Speaker 3: Does she telling this story? Are you telling me the story?

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Speaker 2: Telling the story? I'm not making this. This is what

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Speaker 2: that is historically a nachronus. She revived the man with

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Speaker 2: me to believe that he was not actually having a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think yes.

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Speaker 2: And of course this is if you believe he exists

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Speaker 3: That was where I was at.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So, according to her story, the man came to

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Speaker 2: introduced himself. He's like, hello, I am handsome American millionaire

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Speaker 2: Robert Henry Crawford. I cannot thank you enough for saving

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Speaker 2: in the future, and I will do so in a

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Speaker 2: the USA. Would you look at that. And this letter

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Speaker 2: said that Crawford had died and made her a beneficiary of.

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Speaker 3: His will, this young man.

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Speaker 2: There are stipulations in the well, of course. So the

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Speaker 2: main thing is that Teres and her husband must look

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Speaker 2: family fortune is kept in a sealed safe. No, this

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Speaker 2: one could have It wasn't to be opened upon anyone's death.

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Speaker 3: He already died.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one could only be cracked open once Teresa's

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Speaker 2: one of Crawford's nephews. Yeah, this is big.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like old, like Middle Ages style.

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Speaker 2: Are she's digging in She's like Chateau tal So it's

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Speaker 2: so crazy that she has another secret inheritance that has

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Speaker 2: to be kept in the sealed safe, like what.

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Speaker 3: Are the chances?

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Speaker 2: Well, and she wasn't going to let this spectacle go unspectacled,

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Speaker 2: So she has this heavily publicized event. She installs a

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Speaker 2: as a notary. She made this huge show of putting

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Speaker 2: for that.

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Speaker 3: Like parchment and calligraphy.

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Speaker 2: She sealed the safe with hot wax and then promised

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Speaker 2: it would not be open until her sister's twenty.

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Speaker 3: First Birthdayssive stage Craft.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break, please, I need to go check

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Speaker 2: on my safe. When we return, we'll continue with the

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Speaker 2: adventures of Teray Soumbert, Queen of the Phony inheritances Zarin.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's my government name. But yes, yeah, I'd like

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Speaker 3: you to call me Dizzy for the rest of the show.

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Speaker 2: You got it. What did I want to be called Dizzy?

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Speaker 2: And tiger?

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Speaker 3: Tiger?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm not feeling that one. Yeah, anyway, thank you,

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Speaker 2: So we have let's go back to my story. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we have the precious documents in the safe.

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Speaker 3: Wax sealed.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wax sealed, all the dim bulbs handing out money.

440
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: Saw this as the perfect green light for giving her

441
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 2: her husband even more dough. I mean they had a

442
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: will in their Zarin, Robert Henry Crawford handsome, too handsome.

443
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,959
Speaker 2: So let's talk for a moment about what was in

444
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: the safe. There's the initial letter. This is what she

445
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: says is the initial letter from American millionaire Robert Henry Crawford.

446
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 2: There's the will that said her sister had to marry

447
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: Crawford's nephew in order for Terrace to collect. Yes, but

448
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: she spread rumors of another will. This one left everything

449
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 2: to Terrace's younger sister in Crawford's to American nephews.

450
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: So if she married, she started rumors of this guy

451
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 3: had a better will.

452
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then Teresa was like, oh, but there's a

453
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: third document, And in that one, the two Crawford nephews

454
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: agreed to give their uncle's fortune to Terrace while the

455
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: dispute over the competing wills was being resolved. So she's

456
00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: just creating drama on whitless pointless drama. Oh and ps,

457
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: there's a deed up in there. And in that, the

458
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: Crawford boys agreed to waive their claim to their uncle's

459
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: vast fortune in return for a payoff of six million

460
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 2: francs and the promise that one of them would be

461
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: allowed to wed Terrase's younger sister. Okay, the sister must

462
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: be a real looker. Oh yeah, maybe not so much.

463
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 4: So.

464
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: But they're begging, like, please please let me marry your sister.

465
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 3: Yes, she seems like your family, I really want to

466
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: go too.

467
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 2: So Terrace used her story to get a huge loan,

468
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: and she told her bankers that if they lent her

469
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: six million francs, she'd cut the Crawford nephews out of

470
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: the will.

471
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.

472
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: Then the whole hundred million francs would be hers and

473
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: she'd pay everyone back with like major interests.

474
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 3: And the bankers are like, I know a guy who

475
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 3: does wet work.

476
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 2: The bakers are like, well that sounds on the up

477
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: and up. Perfect love to do.

478
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: This profit profit profits.

479
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: So you know, Teresa, her husband, they got this newfound

480
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: supply of cash. They bought a big, fancy new house.

481
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: She turned it into this destination for socialites. She threw

482
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: grand parties with like high level guests, like political figures, nobility,

483
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: like high business people, entertainers. She bought a newspaper and

484
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: had her friend run it. This guy our main cas.

485
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: Was just like a really big like.

486
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 2: Paper. And her friend was this radical muckraker and her

487
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 2: father in law, the former mayor. No, you know, he

488
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: was a progressive. So she used the paper to campaign

489
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: to have him elected to French parliament. Wow. And so

490
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: she she bought this like really hard to get box

491
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 2: at the opera that there's this long waiting list, and

492
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: she jumped to the front everything. And then she became

493
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: like a big benefactor to the opera. So she and

494
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: Frederick they lived in luxury for like two days acades.

495
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: Are you king dead serious? They spent the money that

496
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: they had on these this high life, the parties and

497
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: the opulence. They had toilet brushes with pink satin bows

498
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: on them. The banks are just waving like that's the

499
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: that's too much.

500
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: They're waiting for the daughter to come of age. They're

501
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: timing their part.

502
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,239
Speaker 2: There's always stalling it, always stalling it. She's got all

503
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: these stalls. They had a maid who would polish the

504
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 2: safe once a week. They expanded their housing to three

505
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 2: country chateaus, and then they threw in a yacht for

506
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: good measure. So many parties there in fashion terrase loved hats,

507
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: but not like normal ones. She liked like beach blanket,

508
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 2: Babylon hats, like the big hats, crazy feathers, bake fruit.

509
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: She had one that looked like an oversized leech was

510
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: sucking her head.

511
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: That's what she wanted.

512
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like give me leech, but make it fash. Yeah,

513
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 2: it's fashion sweaty. So so one of her creditors that

514
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 2: was like me suspicious and impatiently those are my two

515
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: most prominent traits. Yes, this dude, di Latte.

516
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: Also, you're a really good dancer, and.

517
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: I'm a super good dancer. I'm a triple threat, impatient, suspicious.

518
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: So de Latte, right, he wants his money and he

519
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: wants it now, and things aren't adding up. So one

520
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: day he just is like casually asked talking to Terrace

521
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 2: and he's like, so, where does Henry Crawford live? And I'm,

522
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 2: you know, just wondering, just make a conversation, small talks,

523
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 2: and she's like, oh, he lives in Summerville, which is

524
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: this tony Boston suburb. That makes sense, you know, Okay,

525
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: but he didn't buy it. So he quietly made his

526
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: way to Marseille and took the first available boat to

527
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: the United States.

528
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 3: He's like, take me to Somerville.

529
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he wanted to meet this Crawford guy confirmed

530
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: the story Zarin. He was shipping up to Boston. So

531
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: he gets to Boston, starts asking around heads to Somerville.

532
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: No one's ever heard of Henry Crawford. He tries the

533
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: city of right exactly. He tries the city, goes to

534
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: all these other suburbs, nothing, never heard of them. So

535
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: he's like, hmm, scratches his chin. He hired private investigators

536
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: and like, maybe the Frenchman just isn't well understood. You know,

537
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: we get some Americans on this, so Pi's they come

538
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: up empty. In fact, they can't find a millionaire named

539
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: Henry Crawford anywhere in the whole entire country. So Delat

540
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: he's heated, like he I knew it. He immediately writes

541
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: to a friend in Paris. He's like, hey, Pow, I'm

542
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 2: in Boston. The Baked beans are to die for. But

543
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: most importantly to race Umber is a big faker and

544
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: I'm on my way back asap. And when I get there,

545
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna blow up her life. PS go, Pats, I

546
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: just said that last part to you. Take you and Dave.

547
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, see how we're trying both silently to just get

548
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: past that.

549
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 2: So lat He goes to New York to set sail,

550
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: but he never made it to the ship. His body

551
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: was found in the East River. Wow, yeah, this isn't

552
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: one percent, because no one knows what happened to him,

553
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: and I don't think Terrace's reach was that far.

554
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: Did he telegraph the message?

555
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so phew. I don't know put on a boat.

556
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.

557
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how it got there.

558
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: Let's just I'll be frank. I'll be honest with.

559
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: You, man.

560
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 2: I have no idea. None of us were there, Carrier Pelican,

561
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. So uh plan to expose Terrace died

562
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: with de Latte In eighteen ninety three, she starts up

563
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: this insurance company called Villager and this means life annuity,

564
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: and so she set it all up in a fancy

565
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: office building. She promoted it with this like crazy huge

566
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: prospectus that used unauthorized pictures of the President of South

567
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: Africa and the Pope on it. They looking for it.

568
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: I like the cut of his jip. Put him in there,

569
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: nice hat. She didn't bring in the big money makers

570
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: for this though. Instead she pulled in peasants and small

571
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: business owners scam as old as crime, and it worked.

572
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: She offered huge returns from these small investments, and she

573
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: paid out pretty quickly and didn't put people through like

574
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: endless paperwork and all of this, of course unsecured, so

575
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: it's this classic ponzi skin. She took in more than

576
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: forty million francs with this, that's nice. Yeah, small bits

577
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: she paid off to old investors while the rest went

578
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: into her bank account. From there, she and her husband

579
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: just paid off their creditors. So this is how they

580
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: were kept it going for twenty years. They still had

581
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: money issues. Like one time a bailiff came over like

582
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: to collect for a creditor, and terrase, she caused a

583
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: scene and threw her pearl necklace on the floor and everyone,

584
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: all these servants start scurrying around, and the bailiff to

585
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: pick up the pearls and like calm her down. And

586
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: then the clock in the parlor starts to chime five pm,

587
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: and she just like super cold blooded, turns to the

588
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: bailiff and is like, it's five o'clock. Your writ has expired.

589
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: Get out of here, and has someone show him out

590
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: because it only went until five pm.

591
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

592
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. So then like when creditors did to get nervous,

593
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: then like Terrace would trot out the Crawford nephews and

594
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 2: so someone claiming to be one of the nephews, like Huey,

595
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: Dewey or Oude and then would say, oh, you know what,

596
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: like I hear you have this debt, I want to

597
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 2: buy it from you, and you know, because those chits

598
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: too valuable to pass up, and I want to ruin

599
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 2: that beautiful and charming Terrace is their damn rize. And

600
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: so the creditor is like, maybe this debt's too good

601
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: to let go of, and I think I might have

602
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: a huge payday coming, so he'd hold off in quiet

603
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: down demanded okay. So Terrace it all going by like

604
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: continuing to borrow huge sums of money, you got to

605
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: look like you're making money moves. And she figured the

606
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: inheritance issue was so convoluted that it would be tied

607
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: up in court and stall things even further. So she's

608
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: stalling and bringing in more money, but people are at

609
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: least starting to get officially suspicious. Renee waldeck Rousseau was

610
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: this distinguished lawyer politician, so he started trying to chase

611
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: down debt for creditors, and one of them was his

612
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: own son in law. Started Yeah, so he wanted to

613
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: RaSE taken down, and to do so, he teamed up

614
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: with the editor of the newspaper La Mataine. Right in

615
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty three, the paper published an article that was

616
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: really just like attacking to Race, and they wanted to

617
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: be balanced in their reporting, so they let her father

618
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: in law, the Minister of Justice, chime in.

619
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: Mister Justice, and.

620
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: He totally supported all of her crazy tales. He's like, yep,

621
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: it's on the up and up. But this official with

622
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 2: the Bank of France, Jules Bezat, he didn't buy it

623
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: one bit. So he asked Terrace where her annuity company

624
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: was investing all the premiums its clients were paying, and

625
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: she was like, it's all in treasury bonds. He's like cool, cool, cool,

626
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: So then he goes to the Treasury. He's like quick

627
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: question and they look, there are no records of that

628
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: business buying any bonds. So he wanted to dig more,

629
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: but he's nervous, not that he'd end up in the

630
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: East River. The problem was that there were so many

631
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: creditors that the debt was more than was supposed to

632
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: be in the will. Okay, yeah, and if someone called

633
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: in their loan it would collapse everything, taking banks and

634
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: investment firms too big to fail. But it had to

635
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: be called in sometime, and one brave banker decided to

636
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: pull the plug on the money. He wanted the safe opened,

637
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: and he took it to court. Zaron, Let's take a

638
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: break when we come back to court. Yes, Zaren, Yes,

639
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth,

640
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: and nothing but the truth.

641
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: I was told I was going to court, but I

642
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: wasn't on trial.

643
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are on trial. This is the trial of

644
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: Zaren Burnett. Okay, so we're in court. One banker, yes,

645
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: has been enough enough pull the plug. So all I

646
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: have to say to you, Zarin, is closure. I want

647
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: you to picture it. It's nineteen oh one. You are

648
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: a court clerk in Paris, and the judge for whom

649
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: you work has been assigned to the terrees Umbert case.

650
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: You are thrilled because you love a good gossipy case.

651
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: This will not be boring. You know that you're wearing

652
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: your best beret for today and carrying your favorite baguette

653
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: in a paper bag. Today. The plaintiff's attorney has called

654
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: the two Crawford nephews to testify, Ol Henry and Robert.

655
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 2: Henry takes the stand and prepares himself for question. Please

656
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: state your name. The attorney asks in French. Henry responds,

657
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: but in English, Well, howdy, partner, I am an American man,

658
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: and my name is Henry Crawford from the America, I

659
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: mean from America. Everyone in the gallery starts to snicker.

660
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: This American accent is almost as bad as Elizabeth's French accent.

661
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: Who's Elizabeth? You wonder? It's a fleeting moment, but you're confused,

662
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: must be the heat. Henry says he doesn't recall to

663
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 2: a bunch of questions, and then is dismissed. Robert takes

664
00:34:53,840 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: the stand. Monsieur palonse, Uh, I mean no. Robert looks

665
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: around the courtroom, clears his throat, and blushes. The gallery laughs.

666
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: The attorney asks in French, and how are you acquainted

667
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: with the defendant? Robert responds in halting clumsy English. Uh,

668
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: my uncle met her on the train while on Comodton vacation.

669
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: He likes, how do you say cucumber? The court rrupts

670
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: in laughter. The judge bangs his gable, and Robert is dismissed.

671
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: Now for Terrace, The attorney asks her about the nephews.

672
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: Where do they live? Therees replies, uh, thirteen oh two Broadway. No, city,

673
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: no state, just the most generic American sounding address other

674
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: than one two three Main Street. Possible groans, laughs, fill

675
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: the room. The judge bangs his gable calls for a recess.

676
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: You weren't disappointed? This one is entertaining, so zaren It

677
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: turns out that the crawford Us were actually Terrace's brothers.

678
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 3: What what?

679
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: And they didn't do American accents very well, worse than

680
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: our accents, worse than hours. It's like in the reporting

681
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: of the time, is how bad the accents were. After this,

682
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: the trial goes on for a really long time, and

683
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 2: then the judge rules, you know what, pop that safe? Really,

684
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: pop them college, pop them college. And there was almost

685
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: a problem with that. On May seventh, nineteen oh two,

686
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: there was a fire at Teresa's place. No, but remember

687
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: the safe is fireproof.

688
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: That can I guess what burns?

689
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

690
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: No, I don't want you tell me.

691
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 2: The whole thing is terribly upsetting for Terrace. She doesn't

692
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: she doesn't know what's burned. Whole house has gone up.

693
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: Oh you know, she's like it was so upsetting that

694
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: she had to run. She went off to one of

695
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: her three country homes to me out of here.

696
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: She has to convalesce.

697
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the safe fireproof, so it survived, one would think,

698
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 2: I think the wax melted filling. Well. So two days

699
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: later the government seized the safe and decided to open

700
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: it in public workers. They haul the like charred safe

701
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: out into the street. They don't have a key. Race,

702
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: isn't there.

703
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: This is the original al Capone's vault. We're going to break, Yeah, So.

704
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: They they pulled out sledgehammers and crowbars and axes like

705
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: that'll open her up. And it took an hour to

706
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: bust the thing open, which is not very long I

707
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: would think for a safe, like if you really doing it. Yeah. Meanwhile,

708
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: a crowd had developed naturally.

709
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't have anything else for entertainment.

710
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: When I say crowd, I mean ten thousand people.

711
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 3: Where were they standing?

712
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: That was exactly my question. I'm trying to imagine this

713
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: scene on like a really fancy residential street wherever, and there's.

714
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: Kind of like heared standing seats.

715
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're in front of a charred, burned out shell

716
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: of a house. They've dragged this into the road and

717
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: ten thousand maniacs are gathered around.

718
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: Are they just doing laps around the house?

719
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 2: Taking turns peak and they jump and peek over. It's like, okay,

720
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 2: so it stacks out and you've got people like maybe

721
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: standing on front step. Sure, yeah, how many blocks out?

722
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: Does that go to pay ten? Do you think they

723
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: were exaggerating.

724
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm getting the idea a little bit.

725
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm thinking so so exaggerating up. Oh, there's really fifty thousand.

726
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 2: They're like they're all on the rooftops. So there's ten

727
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: thousand people, right, and there's like guys selling inflatable aliens

728
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: and like those light up necklaces. Yeah, carts selling sonor

729
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: and hot dogs roll up. It's the works. They're going

730
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: all out, so with great drama. The door to the

731
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 2: safe creaks open. I can tell you the contents did

732
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: not include a couple of letters and two wheels? What

733
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: there were no game boy?

734
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: Wait? Would you reach me your favorite take a picture

735
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 3: of my face, because I'd like to see what I

736
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: look like when I'm surprised, just stunt shot.

737
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 2: You know what else wasn't in there? Pats tickets? Yeah,

738
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: so I can't tell you what what was it?

739
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: Who got the tickets?

740
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think they died with delut. Okay,

741
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: so here's what was in the There are three things,

742
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: an Italian coin, one one, a trouser button, and a brick,

743
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: a callback with the brick like nicely done. So now

744
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: the shot is out of the bag. And it made

745
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: a mess of the French economy. So some of the

746
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: people that she scammed were like the safe deposit box owners,

747
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: and they didn't say anything because they didn't want to

748
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: be made a fool of well, and it's like, story

749
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: is so ridiculous. So the French press, though, got a

750
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: hold of the lists of the men and the women

751
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: who'd been duped to their fortune and just started running

752
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: printed names. And this included Empress Eugenie who's in exile,

753
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: the son of the president, and like all these like

754
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: non influential small investors. So she's taking like.

755
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: Talk to me, like we're talking like a Napoleonic princess

756
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: in exile.

757
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: And so you know who got caught up in all

758
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: of this. It's just a side note. Alri Matisse, the painter,

759
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: his in laws, the Pereres. Madame Pereire was Teres's housekeeper,

760
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: and authorities thought that like she and her husband were

761
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: somehow in on this, and somehow Terrace would bring in

762
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: the housekeeper and.

763
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: Maybe that's like a cultural bias, like the type of person.

764
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: Perhaps. Yeah, and so they arrested Monsieur Pereire and then

765
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: they even searched Matissa's studio. He got oh yeah, he

766
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: gets pulled into the I love.

767
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: How he's like famous artists get pulled in. We have

768
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: Picasso get pulled in.

769
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: I feel for them.

770
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 3: Round up the French artists.

771
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 6: Uh.

772
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: The family becomes total scapegoats. And like because Terrace like she's.

773
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: Not around right, yeah, she's at the country home.

774
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: Everyone's just directing their anger at the parade man.

775
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: That's left literally holding the bag of no sense.

776
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: It's like, why are you attacking the workers instead of

777
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: the fat cat?

778
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: But whatever, the violently rich one.

779
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. So uh, Monsieur Pereire he goes on a hunger

780
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: strike in protest, and he didn't have a lawyer, so

781
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: Matisse represented him.

782
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: I am so confused by this and.

783
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: Was supporting the whole family.

784
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: It's just because he could read. Is there some benefit

785
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: to having him do this.

786
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: It's just a good dude. I don't know. But then okay,

787
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 2: so you're saying.

788
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: You got like Matisa in like the courtroom, painting your defense.

789
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: And he like, look at that.

790
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: Everything's picture the whole event.

791
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: Everyone stands back and just kind of stares. You know,

792
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: he's just painting. That's a great defense though, So he's

793
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: just paying people off the paintings. So you know, we're

794
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: talking about like Terrace is. She had like a country.

795
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: She and her family fled to Spain. She got out

796
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: out wow. Yeah, and they got arrested in Madrid December

797
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: of nineteen oh two, dragged back to Paris to be tried.

798
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

799
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: A lot of information about the creditors and the delicate

800
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: nature of the French banking system because of Terrace came

801
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: to light in the trial, and she just kept saying

802
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: that she's innocent, she didn't do anything wrong. She did

803
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: admit like, okay, fine, there's no Henry Crawford, you know,

804
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: handsome America. Fine, but she said, okay, so there's no

805
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: Henry Crawford, but there is an inheritance.

806
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: Did anyone go praying that?

807
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: Everyone? Oh God? So she's like, all right, it actually

808
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: came from Marshall Bazaine.

809
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 3: Okay.

810
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: So he's the one who surrendered to Prussia at the

811
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: Siege of Metz and he was tried for treason because

812
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: here he gives it all up.

813
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: Sure, this is like, why would she want to claim him?

814
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: Take on?

815
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: So this is out. He has this long and storied

816
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: military career, He gets sentenced to death, escapes to Spain,

817
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: and he died like a dozen years before this all

818
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: goes down with Terrace. So Terrace is like, look, Bazaine,

819
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: he got four million pounds from Prussia for his betrayal,

820
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: Like he sold out our country for that, and then

821
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: somehow I ended up with that money. But I wouldn't

822
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 2: have taken it if I knew where it came from.

823
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: And she's like, in fact, when I found out it

824
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: was dirty Prussian cash, an enemy bribe, it burned it

825
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: while singing La Marseilles totally.

826
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 3: Now do you think that that she actually was doing,

827
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: like maybe money laundering for him? And that's where she

828
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: came up the story target. She just picked somebody who

829
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: everyone knew was had money and is dead and everyone story.

830
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: She's like, who do you hate? I got someone you

831
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: hate more than that.

832
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: You know who ruined your house? Got Zilla? Not me? Okay,

833
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: I got it.

834
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 2: So she said that that's why the safe was empty.

835
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: She's like, I burned the cash because I'm a patriot.

836
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: Dang it, I did it for you. What did you

837
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: do for?

838
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: French judge? Though? What does the judge say to this quote?

839
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: But it does not explain ziblick?

840
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 3: Madame, good point.

841
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: You know I love a callback. Here's the brick. So

842
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: the trial went on for six weeks. Terrace was found guilty,

843
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: sentenced to five years of solitary confinement with hard labor. Uh.

844
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: Frederick got the same deal. Her brothers, the fake Crawford nephews,

845
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: they got two and three years, respectively. I'm not sure

846
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: who got what, but whatever, I don't know who cares.

847
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: I honestly just don't care. Her sister Marie and her

848
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: daughter Eve, and then her deceased father in law that

849
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: just disminister.

850
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

851
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 2: Well, they're all labeled as victims instead of conspiratorsy.

852
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: Oh for real, I thought they were all going to

853
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: be left. Hold.

854
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: Marie was just a pawn in this, Like she's being

855
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: offered to marry off to these invisible men. She can't

856
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: probably can't marry anyone else because of it. Yeah. So

857
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: most people think that when she got out, she moved

858
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 2: to the United States, Chicago to be specific, would be

859
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: a good place for her. Yeah, and they say that

860
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: she passed away in nineteen eighteen. But there's absolutely no

861
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: paperwork to back this up.

862
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: But there was a war going on.

863
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: A list there was come on be Sensitive a prosecutor

864
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: who went to Madrid to take her back to Paris.

865
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: He wrote in a paper that quote Terrees Umbert is

866
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: still living poorly in Paris. She has lost her miraculous vitality.

867
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: What a reverse of fortune. Her golden past has left her.

868
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 2: She is a quite humble old lady who never speaks

869
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: to anyone. So he's like, she didn't make it to Chicago.

870
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: She's a loser. Keep Hayton on her, because she's alive

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Speaker 2: and a lose.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you where she is if you got a

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Speaker 3: rotten tomato you want to toss.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing though, the article had two pictures in it.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah. In one there's like it's a door to

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Speaker 2: a house in Paris, and the caption here Boulevard de

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Speaker 2: Butino lives today she who was lagran Terrees. So here's her.

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Speaker 3: House house, here's the street. Yeah, you can find it.

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Speaker 2: The second picture is like the same outside of the

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Speaker 2: house and like with a window, and it has the

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Speaker 2: caption behind these windows with white curtains. Terrees Sumbert meditates

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Speaker 2: on her past, so like all right, boys, roll on out.

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Speaker 2: Frederick he died in nineteen thirty six, and in all

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Speaker 2: of his records he's not listed as a widower.

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Speaker 3: Really got married.

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Speaker 2: I think she's still alive today. So that author of

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Speaker 2: LaGrand Terrees, Hillary Sperling, this is what she had to

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Speaker 2: say about Teresa's legacy. If she had chosen books instead

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Speaker 2: of real life as the medium for her romantic fictions

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Speaker 2: about missing deeds, locked coffers, surprise legacies, and long lost parents,

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Speaker 2: she would have been a nineteenth century bestseller totally. I

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Speaker 2: love that, Zara. That's your ridiculous takeaway.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for asking. Elizabeth. It's very nicey, very dear,

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Speaker 3: very sweet.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I am so nice to so many people,

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Speaker 2: and as.

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Speaker 3: A result, you have all those fortunes, last.

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Speaker 2: Secret fortunes that I can't I don't like to tell

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Speaker 2: people about her nickname.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is a nickname she was used,

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Speaker 3: but the book The grom Teresa, Yeah, I like that

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Speaker 3: because Terry the Great Teresa sounds like like a magician,

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Speaker 3: like a you know, like an eleven year old girl,

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Speaker 3: who's a magician. It's the great Teresa. Like in the backyard,

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Speaker 3: you got a handmade sign painted exactly I like it.

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Speaker 3: Her sister painted it for her, who's also her assistant,

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Speaker 3: who's getting cut in half? You get it? The greater there?

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Speaker 2: It is, all came together.

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Speaker 3: Call back, You're welcome. What heres Elizabeth?

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Speaker 2: My takeaway is that I got to start really working

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Speaker 2: on my can game because it looks so easy.

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Speaker 3: Dude, there's so much money we're just leaving out there.

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Speaker 3: It's just just seeing my weight in pockets that want

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Speaker 3: to be in ours.

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Speaker 2: Because I love to tell outlandish tales, why not get

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Speaker 2: paid for it?

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Speaker 3: Totally? I mean you kind of do well.

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Speaker 2: Kind of uh Dave, I need to talk back?

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Speaker 3: Got one here?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god?

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Speaker 3: Did s I l cheat?

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Speaker 4: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Is there? And Elizabeth?

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Speaker 6: First, I want to thank you for giving me some

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Speaker 6: of the most ridiculous did you know? Facts to share

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Speaker 6: at parties and gatherings. It keeps my invitation list low.

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Speaker 6: And second, while I'm here, I'd like to confess to

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Speaker 6: a ridiculous crime. My father is a pediatrician, and all

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Speaker 6: through school I made a fair amount of money selling

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Speaker 6: doctor's notes, and as I grew up in a very

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Speaker 6: small town. I had to learn to become a signature

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Speaker 6: forger as well, so that no one would know they

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Speaker 6: weren't from him. I'm not giving my name as I

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Speaker 6: remain unidentified by any interested authorities. Love the show, Keep

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Speaker 6: up the good work.

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Speaker 2: I love that. And it's not scripts just doing doctors no.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for like missing school, I'm assuming you can't do.

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Speaker 2: That's genius. And she's doing the lord's work.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's great. I used to have to go to

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Speaker 3: doctors offices and steal those pads for myself, and she's

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Speaker 3: just like doing it one at a time. So much better,

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Speaker 3: so much smarter, so good.

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Speaker 2: That's it for today. You can find us online at

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Speaker 2: ridiculous crime dot com. We're also at Ridiculous Crime on

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Speaker 2: both Twitter and Instagram. You can email ridiculous Crime at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com. Leave it talk back on the iHeart app. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I think we will probably have new merch or we

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Speaker 2: do have y Yeah, there's like just going to be a.

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Speaker 3: Merch lands to check the website and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Reach out. Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and

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Speaker 2: Zaren Burnett, produced and edited by rich American uncle Dave Cousten,

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Speaker 2: starring annals Rucker as Judith. Research is by Beleaguered Locksmith's

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Speaker 2: Marissa Brown and Andrea Song Sharpened Tear. The theme song

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Speaker 2: is by Thomas Lee Crawford and Travis Dutton Crawford, both

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Speaker 2: of Somerville, Massachusetts. Host wardrobe is provided by Botany five hundred,

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Speaker 2: guest Haron, makeup by Sparkleshot and mister Andre. Executive producers

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Speaker 2: are Chateau salesman Ben Bolan, an American accent coach, Noel Brown.

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Speaker 4: G Dicks Quime Say It One More Time, Geequeusquin.

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