WEBVTT - Selects: How the Beagle Brigade Works

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<v Speaker 1>How to everyone. It's Chuck here on Saturday. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I would brighten everybody's day with this selection from June thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen. How the Beagle Brigade works. Oh boy, just

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for cute overload. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know,

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<v Speaker 1>a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh close Ark,

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<v Speaker 2>There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, Jerry Jerum Rowland's over there.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is Stuff you should know, the Beagle Brigade edition.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, another I guess we covered drug sniffers, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>not or did we do Seeing Eye Dogs as well?

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<v Speaker 2>We did, remember, because Seeing Eye Dogs is actually your

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<v Speaker 2>brand name. It's one of those oh like a band aid, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Kleenex or something. That one was that was a great one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I mean, is this the last job that

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<v Speaker 1>dogs have?

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<v Speaker 2>And we we didn't cover dogs that serve as pack animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet, so oh that's right, yeah, like herders.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be good. Are lumberjack dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's true, that's right. Or dogs that are sous chefs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So yeah, we've got a big, big long suite coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was done.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, no, no, but this one might be the most

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<v Speaker 2>adorable of all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this one was. I was always confused. I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought the beagles at the airport because as you

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<v Speaker 1>will learn, Atlanta is they're they're trained here outside of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought that that the beagles were. I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were drug sniffers, really did everything sniffers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I see. No, you could have a big old

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<v Speaker 2>suitcase full of cocaine and walk right past that.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog and be like, well, that's good to know, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure for the next time you're smuggling cocaine suitcase. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>once you make a past a beagle, you're home free.

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<v Speaker 1>But don't have a head of lettuce.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because those beagles will pounce on your neck and

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<v Speaker 2>chew your throat out. Or don't have that train to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have a whole hog. Can you believe that story?

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<v Speaker 2>Totally?

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<v Speaker 1>So this one was, uh, I think it was in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta at Hartsfield Jackson Airport.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a woman traveling from Peru to the

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<v Speaker 1>United States with a roasted pig, an entire roasted pig

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<v Speaker 1>in her bag, and I mean it was very sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she was just trying to bring home a

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<v Speaker 1>holiday meal for her family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was Thanksgiving, I think right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she smuggled in a roasted pig. Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a little little you know, it was big.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they have pigs tend to be. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say a suckling pig, A pig. I assumed it

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<v Speaker 2>was a big old pig.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was a picture of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's right, but it was. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>good sized pig.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The guy Rob Brisley, public affairs officer, said the

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<v Speaker 1>right steps had to be taken to confiscate and destroy

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<v Speaker 1>the item, and then the Senate stopped. But I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>he said, with our.

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<v Speaker 2>Mouths right, with extreme vengeance.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, I mean that's just one example.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we should we should probably say exactly what we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about for those people who haven't been to an

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<v Speaker 2>international airport in the United States. But there is a

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<v Speaker 2>group of working dogs that are exclusively beagles, hence the

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<v Speaker 2>name the Beagle Brigade from what I understand, although I

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<v Speaker 2>did see reference that they do use labs sometimes, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure it's almost exclusively beagles, if not exclusively beagles.

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<v Speaker 2>And these dogs have a job. They're actually federal agents

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<v Speaker 2>with the the U. S d A, the Department of Agriculture,

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<v Speaker 2>no or not the DEA either, but their federal their

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<v Speaker 2>federal agents, and they are their whole job is to

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<v Speaker 2>sniff out agricultural products. And the whole point of all

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<v Speaker 2>of this is that the US has a pretty extensive

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<v Speaker 2>agriculture infrastructure, right, And if something comes through, say that's

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<v Speaker 2>a pest, right, like a bug that eats what do

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<v Speaker 2>we grow here, cotton, cotton, weavil, but from another country, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So a non native pest or non native plant, or

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<v Speaker 2>diseased bat, it could wreak havoc not just on our

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<v Speaker 2>agriculture system, but if if the wrong kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>comes through, Like there's there's procedures in place for for

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<v Speaker 2>food to come in the United States, you supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>carry it in your luggage because it has to be inspected,

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<v Speaker 2>it has to come from a trusted source. We have

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<v Speaker 2>to know that it doesn't have something like hoof and

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<v Speaker 2>mouth disease or ebola or something like that. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it says in here in our own

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<v Speaker 1>article that it's a one trillion dollar industry, our own

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<v Speaker 1>agricultural agricultural product industry, right, And that's import, export, eating it,

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<v Speaker 1>producing it. An invasive species can be one hundred. It

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<v Speaker 1>says about one hundred and thirty six billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>agricultural lost revenue? Is that annually? I believe so, man, So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's a lot of economy at stake here,

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<v Speaker 1>So they take it very seriously.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So there's this group, So the USTA, the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Agriculture here in the US has a subgroup called APHIS,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the Animal, Plant, Animal and Plant Health Inspection

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<v Speaker 2>serve this and they're the ones who are tasked with

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<v Speaker 2>basically creating this virtual border, this virtual barrier to stuff

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<v Speaker 2>coming in the US to protect agriculture in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, like the notorious Romanian cotton weavil.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly the most insidious of all, and specifically at

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<v Speaker 2>international airports, working in conjunction with the Customs Bureau CPB

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<v Speaker 2>Customs and no CBP, right, customs and border patrol. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got these cute, adorable little beagles who are trained to

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<v Speaker 2>sniff this stuff out from people who are trying to

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<v Speaker 2>smuggle whole pigs into the into the country when they're

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<v Speaker 2>not supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless that lady. I felt bad for you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I get it, sure, but you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no way she did not cry when

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<v Speaker 2>the agriculture inspector took her whole pig She's going to

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<v Speaker 2>feed to her family.

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<v Speaker 1>What a waste of food.

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<v Speaker 2>She worked so hard on that chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, it might have been like her favorite family

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<v Speaker 1>pig that she was waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>It was babe. Babe gave his life.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to talk a little bit about these

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<v Speaker 1>the history here, because it did not agricultural agriculture dogs

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<v Speaker 1>or agricultural detection did not start in the US. It

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<v Speaker 1>actually started in Mexico. Yeah, I guess was probably the

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<v Speaker 1>early seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>I could not find when it started, but yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>know it's definitely prior to the seventies because based on this,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was a USDA training manual that was

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<v Speaker 2>referencing it. It picks up then in the late seventies

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<v Speaker 2>that the USDA started this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then up until nineteen eighty three, we used

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<v Speaker 1>we use big dogs, you know, like typically and I

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<v Speaker 1>think we covered this in a lot of the other

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<v Speaker 1>like drug sniffers like German shepherds and labs are certainly good,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are labs aren't so intimidating, but German shepherds

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<v Speaker 1>can be, even though I love them, I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>with them. Sure, a lot of people the side of

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<v Speaker 1>a German shepherd coming at them in an airport is

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<v Speaker 1>a little scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean some people have sinophobia, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>fear of dogs specifically, in which case even the smallest

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<v Speaker 2>dogs going to scare you. But even people who don't

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<v Speaker 2>have an actual phobia dogs aren't going to be scared

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<v Speaker 2>of certain breeds, and that definitely includes German shepherds for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So it started in Mexico and then finally in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty four, the USA USDA started at lax Started, which

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<v Speaker 1>is probably a pretty good airport to pick for a

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<v Speaker 1>pilot program. Yeah, not a airplane pilot program, although I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure they had those. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you hear about the King of the Netherlands. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They found out that he has been secretly undercover moonlighting

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<v Speaker 2>as a KLM airline pilot for fun for like the

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<v Speaker 2>last like once a week, for like the last twenty something.

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<v Speaker 1>Years, and has been flying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like he's been

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<v Speaker 2>undercover flying, not as the King of the Netherlands, just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to have a life of his own.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you meant, like Leo DiCaprio, didn't catch me

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<v Speaker 1>if you can. He just pretended to be a pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, geta and fake checks.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a king, you can't be a pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. So was he did he come clean or was

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<v Speaker 1>he outed?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he was outed. And he said from time

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<v Speaker 2>to time somebody would recognize him, but he'd just have

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<v Speaker 2>them kidnapped. Yeah, kidnapped and killed rendered extraordinarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's pretty crazy. Yeah, well, good for him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they should just let him fly, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I think, I think so. They're going to work

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<v Speaker 2>it out, probably, I hope. So if not, that guy's

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<v Speaker 2>one outlet has been taken away from.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so his pilot PROGRAMM did is maybe failing. But

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<v Speaker 1>the pilot program in nineteen eighty four LAX worked great.

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<v Speaker 1>And they this is a big deal at the time too.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a big change from any kind of detection

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<v Speaker 1>programs that they had at the time. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why it took that long, but because dogs are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously well known sniffers to the tune of I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>compared to humans, how many millions of old factory nerves

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<v Speaker 1>the dogs have.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it varies, so somewhere somewhere in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>is the docs and I didn't see the beagles specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>but supposedly beagles are about average as far as scenting goes,

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<v Speaker 2>which is surprising to me. But the docs and has

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty five million olfactory receptors amazing, and

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<v Speaker 2>humans have five million on average.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the dogs even the size of their

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<v Speaker 1>nose can make a difference. So I was a little

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<v Speaker 1>surprised they picked beagles. But one of the big reasons

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<v Speaker 1>is a the Navy had used them previously to great success.

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<v Speaker 1>And be like you said, you know, they're they're little,

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<v Speaker 1>they're cute, so they're not going to scare anyone at

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<v Speaker 1>the airport. Uh, And they can. They're agile. They're because

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<v Speaker 1>they're small, and they can jump around on a conveyor

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<v Speaker 1>belt like nobody's business. Yeah, to find that Romanian cotton weavil.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Sometimes they'll find just enough fruit that they'll make

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<v Speaker 2>a little head dress out of it, like Carmen Miranda. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing cute, that's a a beagel in one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. The other cool thing about the dogs and there

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<v Speaker 1>their sniffing abilities is uh, it's like you can't disguise

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<v Speaker 1>something like if you if you have of course, uh

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<v Speaker 1>I was about to say drugs again. But if you have,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you want to sneak in that cotton weavil okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and you think I'm going to hide in and a

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<v Speaker 1>can of coffee. Actually that might be you might not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to bring in coffee either, now that I

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<v Speaker 1>think about it. I was just trying to think of

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<v Speaker 1>something with a strong odor.

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<v Speaker 2>Bottle of perfume.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. The dog will be able to pick that out

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<v Speaker 1>of that perfume, right, will be able to almost geolocate it,

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't they don't get confused like we do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you know how like a dog can when

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<v Speaker 2>you when you watch a dog on a scent, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of like sniffing back and forth in the

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<v Speaker 2>air as it moves. So what it's doing is it's

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<v Speaker 2>basically the same thing with our vision. Right, the information

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<v Speaker 2>is getting from one nostril and the other nostril, its

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<v Speaker 2>brain is putting together to create basically like a three

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<v Speaker 2>D map of where that smell is coming from, just

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<v Speaker 2>like the information from one eye compared to the information

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<v Speaker 2>coming into our other eye gives us an idea of

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<v Speaker 2>like depth, right, or perspective, that kind of thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's basically the same thing, but with their old factory sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And put on top of that is the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they can distinguish sense. Like this article this USDA Manuel said,

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<v Speaker 2>when you walk into a kitchen and you smell chili,

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<v Speaker 2>you smell chili, right, chili's cooking. Put it all together,

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<v Speaker 2>it's chili. That's how you smell. Is the sum of

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<v Speaker 2>all the parts.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, if you're good, you might be able

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<v Speaker 1>to pick out a thing or two.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, like you know, like do I detect Yeah, some cuman.

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<v Speaker 2>But a dog will walk in there and smell every

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<v Speaker 2>single one of the ingredients separately, right, Which is why

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<v Speaker 2>you can't just take something and try to overpower the

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<v Speaker 2>smell of it with something else. The dog will smell

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that you're using to try to overpower it with,

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<v Speaker 2>but it'll also smell the other scent. Apparently they can

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<v Speaker 2>smell this thing says they can smell table salt in

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<v Speaker 2>a dilution of one part to ten million parts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>That is crazy. That's also why if you've ever taken

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<v Speaker 1>your dog to a new like a new really new

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<v Speaker 1>environment that they've never been to, like the beach, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>when I took and I think a couple of years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>we did a beach vacation and took our dogs and

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<v Speaker 1>they were going crazy, Like we walked them down to

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<v Speaker 1>the beach and it was just nose in the air

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, there's always a good breeze or usually

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<v Speaker 1>a good breeze on the beach, and I can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>they were just they were smelling these just hundreds and

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of things that they'd never smelled before. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty neat to see, and you kind of wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in that lunkhead of theirs, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>m in my case, one luckhead and one smart one.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen before that when a dog is sniffing at

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<v Speaker 2>a tree, what you're watching them do is sniff, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the tree itself, but also every single insect in that tree,

0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.960
<v Speaker 2>every bird in that tree, everything that's in that tree

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<v Speaker 2>right then that dog is smelling that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I think it definitely varies because obviously some

0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.840
<v Speaker 1>dogs are better, like hunting dogs and such and my

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<v Speaker 1>new dog Nico, we think maybe part plot hound.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Just like a you know, a hound, Okay, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you can look up plot hound and it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>my dog, okay, but like a mix of a plot hound.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that they're like really good scent dogs too,

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<v Speaker 1>because she, more so than other dogs I've had, is

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<v Speaker 1>really driven by her nose and when you let her out,

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<v Speaker 1>she's got her nose to the ground like for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading today about scent tracking, and apparently it's

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<v Speaker 2>something like some people like to do agility stuff with

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<v Speaker 2>their dog, or other people do like obedience like competitions

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, and then other people and apparently this also

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<v Speaker 2>is a really good thing to do. If you found

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<v Speaker 2>your your dog is like no good at obedience, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they might actually love scent tracking because unlike the obedience

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<v Speaker 2>stuff or the agility stuff, when you're when you're scent tracking,

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<v Speaker 2>the dog is totally in charge. You're basically following the dog,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're doing it together, especially during training as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. You know, they'd say if your dog has behavioral problems,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times that means they have a

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<v Speaker 1>job that they're not being they're not allowed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like if you have a herding dog that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a herd, then that might be a big

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<v Speaker 1>pain in your butt until you can find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of let them. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>can not necessarily word part time as a herder, but

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<v Speaker 1>do something that acts as a herder, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Might as well make some money off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to take a little break, all right, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a break and get back to the beagles

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<v Speaker 1>right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Fish. All right, Chuck, So we're back. So we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking basically about dogs in general, but since nineteen eighty four,

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<v Speaker 2>the USDA has been training beagles for its Beagle Brigade, right,

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<v Speaker 2>which is this frontline covering America's agricultural infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>That is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was very heartened to learn from researching this

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<v Speaker 2>that the Beagle Brigade, specifically with the USDA, all of

0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.600
<v Speaker 2>them come from shelters. They're all shelter animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know what, it kind of makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, I just thought it was out of the

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<v Speaker 1>kindness of their heart that they wouldn't like support the

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<v Speaker 1>dog buying industry, but they a lot of times just

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<v Speaker 1>get problem dogs, these beagles that are so like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>up in the business in your pantry or your refrigerator,

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<v Speaker 1>or sniffing out your shoes so they can chew them up.

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<v Speaker 1>People will you know, well, I have opinions on this,

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<v Speaker 1>but people will turn that dog back in or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>to be adopted, hopefully from a no kill shelter.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So then that's a big point that this USDA

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<v Speaker 2>spokesperson makes in the House to Works article, is like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people are saying, I'm not quite sure

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<v Speaker 2>how I feel about this. You guys are using these

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<v Speaker 2>dogs as tools basically, yeah, And I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think dogs should be used that way. And the

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<v Speaker 2>USDA's response is, well, a lot of these dogs would

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<v Speaker 2>would basically be put down if it weren't for us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they would be euthanized because they can't they're

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<v Speaker 2>too hyper to live with a family. But that's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of temperament we need for what we're having

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<v Speaker 2>them do. So actually it's win win for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Yeah, and as much as I love my dogs

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<v Speaker 1>laying around in bed with me, a happy dog, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a dog that's working and exercising and then at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the night they get to relax. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to and we cover some of this and

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<v Speaker 1>seeing eye dogs and stuff, it's easy to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, that dog doesn't get to have fun all day,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just not true at all. These dogs have

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<v Speaker 1>a purpose and they they're good at what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't don't think of it as like using this

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<v Speaker 1>dog is a tool in a bad way, you know, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on the other end of it, if the

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<v Speaker 2>dog is brought into the program and they find out

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<v Speaker 2>that the dog doesn't have what it takes, maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work very well amidst chaos like an airport always has,

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<v Speaker 2>or perhaps the the the dog just seems unhappy. They say,

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<v Speaker 2>if the dog seems unhappy, they'll retire it early. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>At any rate, they have apparently a record of adopting

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<v Speaker 2>out their beagles, and there's a waitlist right now sure

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<v Speaker 2>to adopt these beagles that have worked for you know,

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<v Speaker 2>several years, or or didn't work, didn't make it, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, entered into the program. They don't return them

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<v Speaker 2>to shelters, they don't euthanize them. They adopt them out

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<v Speaker 2>and apparently the USCA has one hundred percent adoption record

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<v Speaker 2>on that, which is pretty outstanding.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and as with a lot of service dogs, their

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<v Speaker 1>first their handlers given first right of refusal for adoption, right,

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.040
<v Speaker 1>which a lot of times they do, so, you know, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would guess so too, because apparently when the

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<v Speaker 2>dog and the handler are paired up together as a team,

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<v Speaker 2>they stay a team for the dog's whole career.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like like Rigs and Myrtal.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, or Turner and Hooch.

0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Actually it's not like Riggs and Myrtal because they were

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<v Speaker 1>paired at the very end of Danny Gloverer's career. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was a bad announce. Oh that's right, that's true

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<v Speaker 1>because he's too old for that crap. Yes, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big line.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was a great line.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that a TV show? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it is anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's nodding, but that probably means you're both right, short lived.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I haven't seen any ads for it lately.

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<v Speaker 1>What a dumb idea, like, hey, let's dust this thing

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<v Speaker 1>off for years ago.

0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 2>They do that with everything like twin Peaks even, It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>how how come on. How are you going to pick

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<v Speaker 2>that back up?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just well, stid of mind that, because that's just

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<v Speaker 1>more greatness from David Lynch.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it any good I've heard? Not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's great. I mean it's I mean, I'm

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.960
<v Speaker 1>a fan of anything David Lynch does. It doesn't sure,

0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't expect it to be exactly what Twin Peaks was.

0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.440
<v Speaker 1>It just feels like a new TV show from David

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<v Speaker 1>Lynch to.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, Oh gotcha? Really? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, I could be down with that, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into this. You mentioned handlers.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been dancing around this the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned handlers, and this, like we said earlier, this

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<v Speaker 1>takes place at a place called the National Detector Dog

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<v Speaker 1>Training Center, the nd DTC, right here in Lovely Noonan, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is that west?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's south west, southwest, like just down eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five after it splits off a seventy five eighty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Edge of my own home state is pretty poor. If

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't camped there, and it's outside of Atlanta, I

0:22:04.800 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 1>probably don't know exactly where it is. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right, okay, southwest then let's go with that, okay,

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:15.199
<v Speaker 1>and they start training, Like with most service dogs, they

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 1>do that initial testing to just sort of see are

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<v Speaker 1>they healthy, do they have the right temperament, how's their behavior?

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<v Speaker 1>And that initial screening is where the first lot gets

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<v Speaker 1>weeded out. And one of the biggest parts of that

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 1>initial weeding out is they have to have a high

0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:35.119
<v Speaker 1>food drive. And that's not that doesn't mean how hungry

0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 1>are they. That means your dog has just been fed.

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Those little beagles just eaten, right, they still have a

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>high desire to get to where the food is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like bacon, bacon.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, that's what you're looking for. Yeah, and you make

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of noise and you have crowds around and

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you just you're testing their focus. And this is all

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<v Speaker 1>just the like I said, the initial screening to say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, little Henry the beagle here has.

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<v Speaker 2>What it takes, right, we think, yeah, well, yeah, that's

0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:08.480
<v Speaker 2>just a start. Can he also learn to differentiate? That's

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:10.639
<v Speaker 2>the big one. That's the next big step, right, So

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I think there's like a one or two week like

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 2>evaluation process. They also like give the dog a full

0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 2>like veterinarian inspection. I believe they spay and or newter

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<v Speaker 2>I guess not and or specifically not and or in

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 2>that case, or they spay or new to the dog.

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.440
<v Speaker 2>A lot of times the dogs come in not very

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>good shape because they're shelter dogs. Yeah, they probably weren't

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 2>taken very good care of early in their life, so

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:46.160
<v Speaker 2>they may need some sort of treatment or checkups or whatever.

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:50.719
<v Speaker 2>But then after that happens, the training actually starts and

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 2>the dogs are trained to scent. I guess, starting out

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<v Speaker 2>from what I saw five basic restricted sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't expect these, would you know?

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's rando.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is it?

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 2>No? No, it's random.

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh I thought they were. I thought there were five sents.

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 2>No, there are, and I'm saying that's a pretty random assemblage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I got you, man, you'd think after nine

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<v Speaker 2>years together.

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:20.439
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, if you were to have picked five cents,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would have definitely picked beef, pork and citrus.

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<v Speaker 1>Those make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I would have picked like monkey, bat and

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 2>probably pig too. Yeah, but I mean those are in

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 2>there so well. The monkey and the bat aren't, but beef, pork, citrus,

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 2>the mango.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's where you threw me, what was the other one? Apple?

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<v Speaker 2>Apple? Turn with apple. I didn't even know they grew

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.399
<v Speaker 2>apples outside of the United States. He was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>smuggle an apple into the US.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We got the best ones here, buddy, Just leave them

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 2>at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would love to know why those are the

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<v Speaker 1>five basic scents, if someone has more information than because

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I could not find out.

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I could not either. There's a real dearth of information

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 2>on this stuff. I even emailed the Customs and Border

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 2>Protection today because I could not, for the life of

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 2>me find the name of that first beagle that started

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<v Speaker 2>out at lax in nineteen eighty four. Cannot find it anywhere.

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Expect that somebody forgot to write it down, so no one.

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Knows you're being tracked now.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, Oh yeah, I've been looking up like, you know,

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 2>restricted items, agriculture and vasive species, stuff like that. I'm

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 2>sure I'm on a list, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So they teach them those well, this is, you know,

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>towards the end, is when they know those five basic

0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>sense At first, they're just basically teaching them how to

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 1>sniff through bags and suitcases and boxes and making sure

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>they can. You know, they'll throw a they'll throw a

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:58.439
<v Speaker 1>goat's head and a suitcase and send it through in

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 1>noonan and you laugh. But one of them found a

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.160
<v Speaker 1>coat heead not too long ago, I know. So it happens,

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and they just make sure they can do that, and

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>they eventually and then of course they have to differentiate,

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 1>like there's a lot of things that are scented, like

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 1>those things that are just fine, like an orange perfume.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, that's another that's gotta be kind of tough

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 2>to learn for a dog too, is the difference between

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, orange scented stuff or things that are made

0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:28.159
<v Speaker 2>with like say, orange essence, like a candy or a

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 2>lip balm or something like that. Yeah, and an actual

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 2>orange because the lipbalmb no problem. Actual orange, you got

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 2>a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. And once they've done this, this is about

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<v Speaker 1>a a few months, probably ten to thirteen weeks. And

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 1>this is and they're being trained in regular like how

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 1>to paw at stuff and alert and sitting responses like

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 1>all of this is one big learning period and the

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>handler's getting trained as well obviously, right. But at the

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 1>end of this is when they finally do graduate to

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 1>those five basic scents. And I guess see what I

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:09.719
<v Speaker 1>don't get it from the basic sense. Is is it

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>from those sense that they can smell anything?

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 2>No, that's crazy. That's what I thought too. That's that's

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>what it implies. Like if you put together apple and

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:24.879
<v Speaker 2>pig and mango, you've got like bat that's not the case,

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Like each thing has its own scina. I don't know

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 2>if those are like the most commonly smuggled ones. Possibly maybe,

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:33.959
<v Speaker 2>so those are the ones they need to start out with.

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're the easiest ones. I don't know, but I yeah,

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 2>if you put those things together, especially if a dog

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 2>smells in layers right and differentiates between sense, it's not

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna smell the combined center those things. It's gonna smell

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 2>each thing. So I'm not sure why those are the

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>five basic ones. Can't find out. Yeah, well hope this

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 2>one was a stone wall. I mean, like we're professional

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 2>researchers here, and like we really ran into a wall. Yeah.

0:27:57.720 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Who would have known that the beagle brigade is what

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>would throw.

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Us, it would break us.

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh. So they've they've learned all these since they've learned

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 1>how to alert, they're getting treats or getting positive reinforcement

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>along the way.

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a big one too. The entire training is

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.360
<v Speaker 2>strictly positive reinforcement.

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't beat these dogs down if they're not

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>smelling correctly.

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>They have like they spend ten grand a month on

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>newspapers to roll up teach these dogs lessons.

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>The puppy bounder. So once they've once they've gone through

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>all of that, everyone knows I'm joking, right.

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, and if you're new to the podcast and

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 2>don't just don't even bother emailing.

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're great animal lovers here. So once they've they've

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>gone through this whole training process, they finally graduate. They

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>get their little diploma, their little hat and their little robe,

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and they graduate from Noonan and they get to move

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to the big city with the Atlanta or anywhere any

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>international airport, but Atlanta certainly has a large one for sure.

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>And so once they get to their home base airport

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to be working at, they're still evaluated

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>and trained for another sometimes ten to thirteen weeks.

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, training is kind of ongoing from what I saw too,

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>like the whole career, you know.

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not like the okay, stop learning dog. Yeah,

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>you know too much. But I think the initial training period.

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>They're basic training still can go on for another ten

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.479
<v Speaker 2>to thirteen weeks after they get to the airport, and

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>even once they get to the airport, that doesn't necessarily

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 2>mean that they're going to stay in the program again.

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Once they're finally introduced to the chaos of an international airport,

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>that dog might just be like, this is not for me.

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Send me back to noonan.

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know, I mean, you can try and duplicate

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that chaos in nounan, but yeah, good luck.

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 2>You just can't. I mean, even you just can't. There's

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 2>nothing like a busy airport. You can't recreate that. Yeah,

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>so some dogs are fine with it, some dogs are not.

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>But again, one of the main reasons why they're choosing

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>beagles is because it is so chaotic, and these dogs

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>are their whole thing is they're not there at like

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 2>a male processing facility. They're not there at like a

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 2>border crossing. They're there at a busy airport, and they're

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>they're meant to be able to kind of weave in

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and out of this the crowd while also being non

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>threatening and also being lovable too. Like that's not by

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>accident that they chose these incredibly adorable dogs. The USDA

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>says that the Beagle Brigade is basically like a walking,

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 2>lovable advertisement for what they're trying to do, which is

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>protect agriculture here in the US.

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they have a little vest, it says Beagle Brigade. Yeah,

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.959
<v Speaker 1>and everyone oohs and ahs and some people. If you're not,

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>this is probably how they do it. If you're not

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>actively ooing and eyeing, and you're standing there sweating heavily,

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>then the dog keys in on you. So I'd be

0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>in big trouble.

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you said it. If you did,

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't catch it. But the dogs are trained to

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 2>walk up to locate a contraband item and sit at

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 2>a bag.

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah they I thought they attacked the person first.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 2>It's called the passive indicating Yeah, but rather than I

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>saw in this article it says they pawed it. Everywhere

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 2>else I saw that they just sit and kind of

0:31:24.720 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>look at the person like shame on you.

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. It's a very passive aggressive way to out somebody

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>for a goat's head in their two case.

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, So we want to oh, yeah, man, you read

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 2>my mind.

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna do that and we're gonna finish

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>up here with a big old brigade.

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Fish.

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>All right, So what happens at the end of a

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>long day, Josh the dog.

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Most beagles enjoy a good pipe, maybe a scotch.

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>In an easy chair, perhaps a cigar.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 2>They sure they tend to watch CNN. I'llough if you

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 2>watch Fox News and they fall asleep a little drunk.

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>That's what they do every night. It's their routine. And

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 2>that's what beagles like.

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that's our routine at our clubhouse where we live.

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I know, weirdly, and this kind of surprised me. I

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>guess it's not weird now they've seen the explanation, but

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I was surprised to learn that they are kindled. I

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 1>thought that they thought. I guess I thought they lived

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>with their handler.

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because canine police dogs live with their handler.

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was weird too.

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>But they're kindled. They have a facility near the airport.

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Some people have asked, like, can I just keep this

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>dog at night and then take them to work every morning?

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And they say no, They said this is actually best

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>for everyone. They need their rest. I imagine they have

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 1>a good play together. I doubt if they just like

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>drive them straight there and put them in the crate,

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's probably a little social scene going on.

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I hope, So, yeah, I hope they don't like get

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.479
<v Speaker 2>scolded for making eye contact with the other working dogs

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 2>they live with.

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>No, they put in their eight hours, they come home,

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>they probably play a bit, and then they're kinneled overnight. Yeah,

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>and they said that they you know, they need this

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>rest time in order to do their job successfully. And

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>like I said, a happy dog is a dog that

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>feels good about its work.

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>And you said, Chuck, some people ask if they can

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 2>take them home. Sure you should specify, like that's not

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the agents.

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Asked to like people at the airport, I know.

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Like, can I just take them home for the night

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 2>and you guys can come get on tomorrow or all

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 2>of them bring them back. I don't only live like

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 2>forty five minutes away.

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure that we'll just get you give me your

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:53.280
<v Speaker 1>cell phone number. That sounds great.

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 2>So it does make sense that, yeah, they are left

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:58.479
<v Speaker 2>to just kind of rest and I'm sure that they

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 2>actually live at the airport. Which is funny. It's like

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>that movie Terminal with Tom Hanks.

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>It says in nearby facility. You think it's actually there?

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure.

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Did you know that that movie Terminal with Tom Hanks

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 2>is based on a real life thing? Yeah, and the

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 2>guy was like living there for a decade or something

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 2>like that. And then Charles de Gaulle, Yeah, did you

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 2>see that movie? No, I just read the article of

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>movies based.

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>On Yeah, it's not very good. Unfortunately I got that impression. Yeah,

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that was a bummer.

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh really it doesn't end well.

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, it was just a bummer that it wasn't

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>good because I was like Spielberg and Tom Hanks and sure,

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I think my hopes were high, yep, But yeah, I

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't care for it.

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>No, such luck, Charles.

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:47.280
<v Speaker 1>So the beagle brigade is a very closely guarded secret

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:52.959
<v Speaker 1>just how many beagles are brigading. So they can say

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>though that there are one hundred and sixteen CBP agricultural

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 1>canine teams with the dogs and the handlers, that every

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>international airport in the country has a beagle brigade there

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>right doing their job.

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 2>So they can tell you a lot.

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you want to tell some stories here.

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, So there was this one dog called Murray. Murray

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 2>was he was at a shelter in North Georgia, and

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>apparently some dummies decided they wanted a hunting dog and

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to spend any money, but they wanted a

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 2>doctail and ears and everything. So they tried it themselves

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 2>and it didn't go very well for poor Murray. So

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>they dropped him off at a shelter, probably knowing the state.

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 2>They probably dropped him off on a dirt road and

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 2>somebody else found him and took him to a shelter,

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>and Murray was rescued by a group called Alcovy Pet Rescue,

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:57.839
<v Speaker 2>and I guess Alcovy has a direct pipeline to the

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Beagle Brigade. Handlers at donn in Noonan said, Hey, we

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 2>think we got one for you. This guy is so

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 2>food driven it's crazy. It's got a lot of love.

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 2>He just needs a little bit of attention. He's missing

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 2>part of his ear, but we can get past that.

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 2>And at age two or three, he became an agent

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 2>for the USDA at Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson International Airport.

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>That's great. The only way that story could have ended

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>better is if those original people had part of their

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>ear cut off. Yeah by a dog. Yeah, what about Jasper.

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>So Jasper he worked at JFK.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, this was late last year. Jasper retired

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:49.720
<v Speaker 1>after an eight year career, and during this career, Jasper

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:56.840
<v Speaker 1>seized over seventeen thousand items. The goat's head was Jasper,

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:00.879
<v Speaker 1>like I mentioned. Yeah, whale meat, Yeah, whale meat, ainoceros skin,

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>cooked bat really what else anything else crazy like that?

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 2>No, not that I saw.

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of Romanian cotton weavils.

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Right, and his handler Amanda Tipple or Triple is it

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Tipple or Triple Triple. She said that she was interviewed

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 2>with Modern Farmer magazine, which I didn't realize existed until

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:26.240
<v Speaker 2>last week.

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>And now you have a subscription.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they did an interview with her, and she was

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 2>saying that that he could very easily work longer, but

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 2>that the mandatory age of retirement is eight because they

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 2>want the dogs to have some years of just chilling out,

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.880
<v Speaker 2>not having to work, and that she's going to take

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 2>him home. She's adopting him, or she did adopt him.

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I think the article was from last year and he

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 2>was on the verge of retirement when they interviewed him,

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 2>but he went and apparently this is fairly normal. Went

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 2>from something like fifteen to thirty hits twenty to thirty

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 2>hits a day, wow, but had declined to about ten

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>to fifteen. Yeah, everybody was very disappointed in him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, that's a good retirement age if they're eight, like,

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>barring some very sad health concern. You know, a dog

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that size can live to be you know, thirteen fourteen

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 1>years old, right, so many years ahead of them hopefully, Yeah,

0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>in retirement.

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and once she takes them home, you know, she

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 2>gets another dog that she's going to partner with.

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:37.759
<v Speaker 1>So I wonder how that'll go over.

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, we'll Jasper be like, I know where you've

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 2>been today, and I just want to tell you again,

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not happy with this.

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Well I bet Jasper. I bet Jasper and all retired

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>dogs have to deal with that transition, you know. Yeah,

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I imagine there's something the handlers have to do

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>with them on a daily basis, like, you know, probably

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot of long walks. I imagine the dog isn't

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>just like all right and now I'm gonna rest right now,

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>like they're used to that activity.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, yeah, I was wondering that as well. I

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 2>wonder too if they get them when they're young, so

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 2>they're super hyper, and then maybe by the time they're

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 2>eight they've mellowed a little bit. Sure, at least comparatively speaking. Yeah, yeah,

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 2>I think a mellow beagle is still pretty hyper compared

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:25.320
<v Speaker 2>to a normal dog.

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I've never been around beagles.

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Actually, Oh, they they'll pull yeah, yeah, and they bay

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and everything. They're super cute, but they can be rambunctious

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>for sure.

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've never known anyone with a beagle, so I

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>don't even know if I've ever touched a beagle now

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>that think about it.

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 2>No, but if you've been touched by a beagle, have

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 2>you'll never forget it.

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Chuck a couple of stats for you. Last year alone,

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen, the brigade inspected twenty three million passengers,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and forty one thousand pieces of freight, and

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>they alerted to total in the United States to more

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>than one point seven seven million seizures of illegal materials.

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot. That's about what like seven eight percent

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of people bringing stuff in that have been caught.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I saw also that there is a there's

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<v Speaker 2>an even more specialized group of dogs that are typically

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>jack Russell terriers that work on Guam to root out

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 2>specifically brown tree snakes. Yeah, that's crazy, which are an

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 2>invasive species that got introduced to Guam and have killed

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 2>off like a lot of indigenous bird species, and they're

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 2>basically trying to protect Hawaii as much as they can.

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know Hawaii didn't have snakes until this article.

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like Ireland over there.

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it made sense, of course, but I

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>just figured, I mean, there's all kinds of invasive species,

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>so I just thought that I just figured snakes would

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>be one of them.

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, Hawaii takes their their like the Agriculture Defense

0:40:58.800 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 2>very seriously.

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The snake thing is yeah.

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Well they'll just beat you up before they even take

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 2>you to jail. They catch you.

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I read an article because I was like, what

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>is that real? And which is I guess a great

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:16.760
<v Speaker 1>comfort to backcountry exploring and explorers if you're scared of snakes.

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>But I read an article and there was there there

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>were a couple of them found last year that you know,

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 1>people had managed to sneak in. And one was a

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>boa constrictor that was dead in the road like five

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:32.160
<v Speaker 1>feet long, and the guy oh Man saw it and said, like,

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a snake, and everyone in the car was like,

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>there are no snakes in Hawaii. They're like, no, that's

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>a snake.

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, I'm just a total idiot. I guess.

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure their legs under there just a big lizard.

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Hate you guys.

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was that was news to me, so very interesting.

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Supposedly the ever Glades down in Florida have a huge

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 2>problem with Burmese pythons and like a couple of different

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:01.240
<v Speaker 2>kinds of pythons that in all of them were pets,

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 2>and now they're just taking over and getting to be

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 2>like twenty feet long or just crazy. Yeah, eating wild

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 2>bores and things like that.

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Because idiots get them and then they grow and they

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>say this snake is too big, yeah, and they just

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 1>put it out in the swamp.

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted a puppy snake.

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.799
<v Speaker 1>So here's a good example too. Like, you know, it's

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>easy to like the goat head and the cooked pig

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 1>gets a lot of attention, but usually this stuff is

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not nefarious, you know, It's like this one lady

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>in February of this year, actually, there was a beagle

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>named gadget that sees. And this is just one seizure

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 1>from one person. A potted tamarin plant, two live trees,

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 1>forty two packages of seeds, twenty pieces of palm tree plantings,

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>chickory seed, rice, millet, and fresh garlic, and.

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>A note from God.

0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a lot of stuff, but this is

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:59.920
<v Speaker 1>what happens. Like someone goes to another country and they

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>want to bring back like seeds to plant something. It's

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>not like they're awful people, but it can. They can

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.759
<v Speaker 1>innocently wreak havoc on agriculture here by doing so, you know.

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, So the process from what I gather is that

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 2>you declare anything you have on you and then if

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 2>they can let you bring it through, then they'll let

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 2>you bring it through. But if not, they'll just take

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:25.879
<v Speaker 2>it and be like, sorry, we got to take this.

0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Then they'll shoot it in front of you. If you

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>don't declare it and they catch you with it. Thanks

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to the Beagle Brigade, you can be fined up to

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 2>something like one thousand dollars for your first offense. And

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 2>if it's clear you're like a straight up smuggler, yeah,

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 2>you will probably go to jail.

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, this person did declare that had all that stuff

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>chocolate in an apple, So I guess she thought maybe

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 1>if I declare something, I won't be a suspicious I

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

0:43:56.080 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, but I mean, if you're a CBP agent and

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at that, and you have the discretion of

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 2>whether to arrest that person or not, you may very

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 2>well be like, no, you're you were definitely trying to

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.760
<v Speaker 2>smuggle this stuff, So I'm going to make an example

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 2>out of you, lady.

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then Gadget's just sitting there just like judging, what.

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Have I done? Yeah, And the lady as they're hauling

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 2>her off to jail, she's like, I would have gotten

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 2>away with it if it hadn't been for your meddling dogs.

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>You got anything else I do?

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I have one more thing. I ran across this article,

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it was on courts and it said like

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 2>bush meat illegal bush meat could be the cause of

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:36.960
<v Speaker 2>the next big global pandemic.

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 2>There's apparently a major market for bush meat, which is

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.440
<v Speaker 2>any wild animal meat. Most people think of it as

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 2>like monkey or bat or something like that, but it

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 2>also is like elk or caribou, any illegal meat that's

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 2>basically just being smuggled around. Yeah, there's huge markets for

0:44:55.760 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 2>it in New York, in London, in Mayland, Europe, and

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>people just smuggle it in and a lot of them

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 2>make it through. And these things just get sold behind

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 2>the counter at butcher shops in some cities. And all

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 2>that's going to take is one of those things to

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:19.359
<v Speaker 2>have a bola and maybe a mutant strain that is

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 2>transmitted a little more easily than a bola light or whatever.

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 2>We have now, and you got a pandemic on your

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 2>hands and we can say thanks a lot. I hope

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.759
<v Speaker 2>you really enjoyed that monkey leg that killed off three

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 2>quarters of the population of humanity of Coross.

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<v Speaker 1>That what those two words? I don't like it.

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know that's pretty rough. So I guess

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:47.239
<v Speaker 2>you're done then too.

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Huh, I'm done, sir.

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, if you guys want to know more about

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:54.960
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0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.920
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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to call this one sad yet happy email. Hey, guys,

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 1>my name is Sam. I wanted to send you an

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 1>email thanking you for your show. The podcast is actually

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>a rediscovery for me. My dad used to play it

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.479
<v Speaker 1>back in two thousand and nine when we would drive

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>up to the mountain to go skiing. Very fond memories

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of laughing and nerding out with my dad and brothers

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:28.320
<v Speaker 1>after a great day on the slopes. Can't believe you

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 1>guys are still going strong after eight plus years. There

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 1>is a little more to my rediscovery of your show, though,

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to share. It's been four and a

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>half years since one of my brothers, who was an

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:41.200
<v Speaker 1>amazing skier, died tragically to suicide. Since I was in

0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>college at the time, it didn't have enough time to

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>properly grieve. Recently, I've been mulling through many painful memories

0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that I ignored in those first three years. However, your show

0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>unexpectedly brought back really happy ones. It is reminded me

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 1>of the fun adventure in learning our family enjoyed while

0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>listening to your show when we are skiing. I remember

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>laughing hysterically with my family your jokes rolling my eyes

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 1>when my brothers and dad would try to comment on

0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.480
<v Speaker 1>your show to sound smart because it was so creepy.

0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>One of your favorite episodes of ours was the one

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 1>on cannibalism. Being a high schooler at the time, I

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>also really liked the show on flirting, so I thought

0:47:15.560 --> 0:47:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I could put it into practice. Needless to say, it

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't really work. Now what. This month, I went home

0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>for a week to visit my parents, and I went

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>skiing with my mom and dad, but the first time

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 1>since my brother died. It was very painful, but also

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>unimaginably special. When my family and I are on the mountain,

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can encounter my brother as he

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 1>was when he was healthy and full of life. Could

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 1>picture him diving down a slope that was way too

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>steep with the most enormous grin on his eager face.

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 1>All in all, it was a great day. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say thank you but the hard work

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:50.320
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0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:53.640
<v Speaker 1>but also inadvertently helping me cherish a special time in

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<v Speaker 1>my life.

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I am that was heavy.

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:00.880
<v Speaker 1>That is from Sam and sends hugs.

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Sam. That is fantastic. Thank you very much for letting

0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:08.200
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0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.759
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