1 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: What's up. This is Michael Rappaport, This is Moody, and 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: today's I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast is a motherfucking barn burner. 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: We have the artists formerly known as Ron Artest. Meta 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: World Peace is in the building. Plus me and Gene 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Moody are gonna do the damn thing. G Moody Air 6 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: Moody has been training for his upcoming dunk contests. Lebron James, 7 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Just when I was going to acknowledge you as the 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: m v P of the regular season, you start acting 9 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: like Lebron James. All that and more. Queen's is in 10 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: the house with Meta World Peace, Miles Jordan's let me 11 00:00:53,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: get something funky? All right, Brand new smash Mouth prime 12 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: time podcasting, Metal World Peace is in the building. I'm 13 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: hyped up. G Monetti is hyped up. Everybody listening in 14 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: prime time is hyped up. What can I say? I 15 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: mean the people have asked for Metal World Peace. We came, 16 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: we saw, we conquered. Have no fear of the Iron. 17 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Rapports Stereo podcast is here. But let's just jump into 18 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: this before we get into Metal World Peace. Monetti all right, uh, 19 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: you you posted the videos Okay, you've you've made proclamations 20 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: and explanations saying that you can still dunk, although I 21 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: never actually saw you actually dunk in your prime. But 22 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: at forty ninety nine, at already nine, you're gonna somehow 23 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: dunk um. And you you have your trainer, and you 24 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: started your training the other day, and I noticed your training. 25 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: You've you've made comments to me, Oh, you're at your yoga. Oh, 26 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: you're in the mountains. You had all sorts of props 27 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: and accouterments with your training. You you had rubber balls, 28 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: you had rubber bands, all kinds of fancy, high falutin 29 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: bullshit for day yeah, yeah, for day one of your training. 30 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: You wasn't at the park lifting uh, you know, logs 31 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: on some rocky bout bowl of Rocky too. You're in 32 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: there doing all kinds of crazy shit. You never fun 33 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: with no rubber we're doing what oh yeah, but you're 34 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: you're mocking everybody else because we're in the gym running, 35 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: we're up doing yoga, but you're doing on rubber balls 36 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: all kinds of like like two thousand twenty six fancy 37 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: dick antics hunh for you for your first day of training, 38 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: your first week of training. Huh building resistance. Uh, it's 39 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: it's science. Oh, it's science said you to do all 40 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: that like a couple of weeks ago. You're ridicule. I 41 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: don't need to do all that's getting limber, locating the 42 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: muscles to respond because they've been dormant. You see the 43 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: first day, what you saw was a warming up of 44 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: the body. Well if you could see, as you could 45 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: see in the videos, you were doing some little jumping. 46 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: You don't look like you duncan jack ship in the 47 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: videos the first the first day, this is uh, this 48 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: is an illustration to show you the progress that will 49 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: be made, uh, culminating in me dunking the basketball. And 50 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: then what and then what are you gonna say? Nothing? 51 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: You're not day, you're not dunking. You're not dunking donuts, 52 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: my man? And but I just why didn't you just 53 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: go to the park and like, you know, start playing ball. 54 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: Why don't you go up there? And since you're since 55 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: you're teasing, I think you tease my man. Mind you 56 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: teased me. You you make fun of everybody over there 57 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: at the gym doing all this, and you're in there 58 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: with like you had like a science experiment. And you 59 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: had all train. Why all the props shop some wood 60 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: and and run up the steps like on some rocky ship. 61 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: Why all the extra nests? Well number one, it was 62 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: reigning in New York City. The plan was to go 63 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: to the park and do a weight training. But not wait. 64 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: See this is a science, but you don't understand it. 65 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: Now are you're up on the mountain. You're on the 66 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: mountain getting dusty and dirty and doing dumb shit. I 67 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: look what you were doing, muscles. Everybody go to I 68 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: am Wrappaport on Instagram. Matter of fact, I'm gonna post 69 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: the video on it and you know what, Gerald, you 70 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna fucking I yell o your videos. 71 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: That's what it's come to. I'm a yellowing, the co 72 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: host of the two thousand fifteen, two thousand and two 73 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: thousand seventeen podcast. Cos I'm i yellowing my coast. That's 74 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen the next time you post a video 75 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: doing all that foolishness. I'm barking on you. Duke. We're 76 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: in the park. As the way the clears, we go 77 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: to the park. This is our plan. I want to 78 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: shout out. My man Jesse ancient Chinese secret. Money's dope. 79 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: Got my muscles on fire right now? How how you 80 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: feeling today? Your first training? Oh, the first day? How 81 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: are you feel? Just just answer the question. Man, you 82 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: you've been coming a real, a real slipperies fucking slope. 83 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: The muscles, the muscles. I'm just a simple question. The 84 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: muscles sore? Oh my god, muscles? How sore you can? So? 85 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: What's this degree? You want? The degrees of sore if 86 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: you want? How are you feeling? I just want to 87 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: know how you feel? Feel good? You feel good? I 88 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 1: feel like after you feel when you come off fucking mountain? 89 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: I feel like that. Okay, okay, just asking the question. 90 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: So are you able to walk? At you? Fuck? Because 91 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: I know you? Are you able to walk? It? You 92 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: fun walking? You're walking. I've been playing pull my whole life. 93 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: This isn't new to my body. Okay, okay, okay, So 94 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: as planned the first week of May, you're gonna be 95 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: dunking a basketball. I'll probably do it before then and 96 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: just show it to you, just to show you what 97 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: tom it is. And we're doing it outside in the 98 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: park right now. But I may go to City College 99 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: and do it, so it could be on some tin 100 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: foot ship. My man told me I could come up there. 101 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: Who who your man? Who? My man who works at 102 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: City College up in Harlem. He hit me on d M. 103 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: He said, Yo, you could come up here so you 104 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: may see the indoors. So you can't. Honestly, I would 105 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: like to see the John J. Park. That's where I 106 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: would like to see because I would like I would 107 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: like to see you. Oh you now your Mr. City 108 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: College George. I'm going to the regular fucking gym. Okay, 109 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: you can't do it. You can't do it in the park. 110 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: You do it in I'm not doing it in the concrete. 111 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: No more bay Okay, all right, but if you could dunk, 112 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: you could dunk. I'm just I'm just saying, I'm okay, 113 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm going. I'm going inside. Well, I'm gonna be there. 114 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fucking heckling you, just like I'm gonna 115 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: be heckling those fucking videos. Hey, you make it a 116 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: video before, may so be able to lookout for it. 117 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: Just I may just rock the okay, Okay, okay, um. 118 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: I know some people that have never listened to the 119 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: Iron Rapports stereo podcasts, and there are a bunch of 120 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: They probably like, well, what the fund did I just 121 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: tune into? Um if you never listen to the Iron 122 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: Wrap Hoors Stereo podcast, and I suspect there are a 123 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: few of you out there. Um, my name is Michael 124 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: Rapp Report a k a. The j Clamato of podcasting, 125 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 1: a k a. The Jeff Rulin of podcasting a ka. 126 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: The Gringo man Dingo. I'm in here with g Moody. 127 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: Last name rhymes with duty, the three time podcast co 128 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: host of the Year, and you are now rocking with 129 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: the best. Is the Iron Rap Coors Stereo Podcast, the 130 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: only podcast that prides itself on non fact checking podcast Yes, 131 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: are like assholes, everybody has one, but you are now 132 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: rocking with the best. Um, so let's just jump into this. Man. 133 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: We got metal World, Peace, Queen's Bridge. UM, fantastic interview, 134 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: heavy ship talking so honest, so real, so genuine. We're 135 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: talking about his career, We're talking about his suspension, We're 136 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: talking about playing against Kobe, We're talking about playing with Kobe, 137 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: all the people he's played against. It's just he's just 138 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: so honest, so genuine. UM. I can't wait for people 139 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: to listen to this interview. Also, I talked about this movie. 140 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: I really suggest you watched this. Um, I've been hyping 141 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: up this documentary that I saw. I watched it two times, 142 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: six part docuseries on Netflix, Wild Wild Country. It's so 143 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: bugged out and so dope. You gotta peep it. Well Friday, 144 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: the next episode of the Iron Rapports stereo podcast All 145 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: Wild Wild Country. I had the two directors are coming 146 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: to sit down with me to dissect this crazy movie 147 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: that's bugging out everybody. It's like, uh, Guru Dock and Chill. 148 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: It's a new hashtag. It was used to be murder 149 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: dock and Chill. Of course the young Shooter came up 150 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: with the the hashtag murder Dock and Chill. And of 151 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: course we came out with the T shirt Murder Dock 152 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: and Chill. We might come up with the T shirt 153 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Guru Dock and Chill. Um, you gotta watch Wild Wild Country. 154 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: I love this documentary. So I get to sit down 155 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: with the two directors. But right now, let's get the business. 156 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Um monetti Yo Villanova, n c A A Champions. Yeah, yeah, 157 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: that's great man. I'm glad they wont I love I 158 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: love that point Guard. Last name is Brunson. Yo. He 159 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: he knows how to handle and and set the table 160 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: for the other players. Slow ship down. That's the perfect 161 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: illustration of a true point guard. And you know his 162 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: father played in the NBA, right, yeah, yeah, yeah he 163 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: He used to be on the Knicks. He used to 164 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: have the blowout. He played on a few teams. Um, 165 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: I really like that point guard too. And of course 166 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: the star of of of the game was this kid, 167 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: Dante de Vincenzo, Dante de Vincenzo, who a lot of 168 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: people are suggesting that it's my illegitimate son. Uh not, 169 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: that ain't my son, Duke, that ain't my seed, although 170 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: I would be proud to well, I have a seed. 171 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: That's the most outstanding player in the game. Um. He 172 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: he was busting dudes ass in that game. Yeah, he's 173 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: he's nice man. He came off the bench on some 174 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: NBA ship. He was out there busting dudes ass. Um 175 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: had a career high thirty one points. Um. You know, 176 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: he's a redheaded Italian named Dante de Vincenzo. He got 177 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: a nice name, and I mean a redheaded Italian. Who 178 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: doesn't like a redheaded Italian go to the league shout 179 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: out to Brian Scalabrini. I don't know if he's gonna 180 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: go to the league, but you know what's funked up 181 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: with this immediate stardom. Homeboy had to delete his Instagram account, 182 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: his Twitter account. He deleted his Twitter account. He's made 183 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: some posts in the past where he's talking nothing crazy, 184 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: just you know, college ship. And I wanted to say 185 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: to this kid, Dante de Vincenzo, who may or may 186 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: not might be my illegitimate son, YO, fuck these people. Man. 187 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: He didn't say anything that that he needs to regret. 188 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: He said, I like it when girls lick my butt hole. 189 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: It's a life changing feeling. Who doesn't like that? I mean, 190 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: is that something to be ashamed of? That? He said, 191 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: I like it when girls lick my butt hole. It's 192 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: a life changing feeling. He also said something about somebody 193 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: else saying dick eating at its finest when somebody was 194 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: dick writing, he said to he said an old tweet. 195 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: This is from two thousand eleven, when the ninth grade 196 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: he said something about to my dad, am I a 197 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: pussy now? Because I don't want to play fucking soccer? 198 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: He got a funny sense of humor. Now they're like, 199 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: he deleted his Twitter account. I think he could have 200 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: kept the first thing to himself. What I like it 201 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: when girls lick at my butt hole? It's a life 202 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: changing he put it in. That's five years ago. This 203 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: kid's probably twenty years old, nineteen, twenty years old, and 204 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: he put that up when he was fifteen. God bless 205 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: him if he got his asshole eaten at fifteen. Of 206 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: course you're gonna go to Twitter and speak on it, 207 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: don't I mean, wouldn't you. I don't know, man, I 208 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I can't say I would do that. Well, 209 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. We we would grow up in the social 210 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: media era. But let's just you know, listen, I understand 211 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: why he did it, but you know, people shouldn't be 212 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: uh held responsible for things they put on Twitter when 213 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: they're fifteen. I just think it's a little extreme. But 214 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: shout out to Villanova, the Villanova Wildcats. Uh, you know, 215 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: the Big East is in the house. Uh, those were 216 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: the good old days with the Big East. Um they 217 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: used to be uh you know the mcclan brothers. Of course, 218 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: ed Pinkney, easy at Pinkney from the Boogie Down Bronx. Uh. 219 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: They used to compete with Pearl and all those guys 220 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: in Georgetown St. John's, And so I have no problem 221 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: with Villanova winning the championship. Um and and Dante de Vincenzo. 222 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: Uh when in the m v P the redheaded Italian 223 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: stallion mhm um. These Parkland uh shooting victims uh continue 224 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: to be in the news. A fifteen year old kid, 225 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: Anthony Borges, I hope I'm pronouncing his name right. Uh. 226 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, he was one of the kids that was 227 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: shot five times, five times. Uh. You know, obviously the 228 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: media just can't get enough of this. Uh. He was 229 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: barricading his door to try to protect other people, uh, 230 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: his classmates. He was shot five times at fifteen years old. 231 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: You know, he spoke to the media. I'm sure he's 232 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: gonna get attacked. You know. He talked about, you know, 233 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: thinking that you know, he was he was scared, he 234 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: was gonna die. Um. You know, and you know they're 235 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: calling him a hero. Uh you know he was. He 236 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: he literally was barricading the door, uh to protect you know, 237 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: the other people in the classroom. I can't wait for 238 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: Ted Nugent, Laura Ingram or for the rest of these 239 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: gun toting savages to criticize a fifteen year old that 240 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: was shot five times. And you know what the crazy 241 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: thing is all these gun totals. They they've never been shot. 242 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: Can you imagine fifteen years old? There shouldn't just getting 243 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: like they just people just keep go away, shut your mouth. 244 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Fifteen year old kid got shot five times. He he 245 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: could say whatever the funk he wants. That's what they say. 246 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Go away, go away, shut your mouth. They don't want 247 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: to hear the violins, you know, they don't want to 248 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: hear the violins. And then the reality of what really 249 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: takes place when you have a lunatic coming in there 250 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: with with an assault rifle. They don't want to hear 251 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: about that. They they just want to I need to 252 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: keep my rifle up. The Second Amendment. Uh, my man, 253 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: mad Dog Russo, Chris Russo, uh, the icon New York 254 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: a sports guy, him and a boomera assassin are going 255 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: back talking against each other. If you have you heard 256 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: about this, yeah, I saw it in the paper a 257 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: little bit, But I'm not privy to what the fund 258 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: is going on. What's going on? Well, I just like 259 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: that I'm not the only one who has like online 260 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: beasts with people. But I like Boomra and I like 261 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: Mad Dog. Uh. And I'm just I'm just glad I'm 262 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: not the only one who's out there, uh, you know, 263 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: getting into online beasts with somebody. So shout out to 264 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: Boomer and shout out to Dog. What's going on with you? 265 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: Mr Monettie? Oh man, same old ship man. Just uh, 266 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: you know right now, I'm in the process of getting ready, 267 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: you know. So I'm eating different man something. Oh what 268 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: are you? What are you eating? Oh? I should say 269 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: eating less, not different. I eat whatever I want, as 270 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: you know that. So you're trying to I'm not trying 271 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: to do anything. You're trying to dunk a fucking basketball 272 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: forty nine years old. That's what you're trying to do. 273 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: But things are are being consumed less, lot of water 274 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: working out. That's what I'm on now. Man, Okay, I 275 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: just was asking I we already covered this. I don't 276 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: know why you brought it back up. Maybe that's the 277 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: soreness in your in your hammys. Um So, just when 278 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: I was coming to terms, I had no problem. And 279 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: I've done it publicly a couple of times, acknowledging that 280 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Lebron James should in fact be the regular season m 281 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: VP the two thousand seventeen, two thousand eighteen basketball season. 282 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: This basketball season, which is winding down, playoffs are just 283 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: around the corner. Lebron James came out. They did some 284 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: Lebron James bullshit. Do you know about what's going down? No? No, 285 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. Okay, So Lebron James, Uh, 286 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: you know he's uh, you know, planning on becoming when 287 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: he's retired. He's doing he's doing it, ay, but he's 288 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: planning on becoming a you know, full time you know, 289 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: television and movie producer. Um. You know, he's doing his thing, um, 290 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: and you know he's produced a couple of shows and 291 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: a couple of movies, put his name on some projects. 292 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: He has a show, a talk show that takes place 293 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: in a barbershop. Okay, it's like a regular you know, 294 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: talk show takes place in a barbershop. There's been plenty 295 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: of shows that take place in a barbershop. There's been 296 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: plenty of movies that take place in barbershop. There's been 297 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: plenty of segments on other shows that take place in barbershops. Right, 298 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: can we agree on this? Yeah? Okay, Lebron James has 299 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: his show called The Shop Okay, where he'll get together 300 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of different players and they'll bullshit around and 301 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: talk shit in a barbershop. Nick Saban Alabama football coach, 302 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: college football coach Nick Saban iconic football coach. Uh either 303 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: Nick Saban or the University of Alabama or Alabamama University, 304 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: whatever the funking is, we don't fact check. They also 305 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: have a show that takes place in a barbershop. It's 306 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: called Shop Talk Okay. Now consummate Stickman. One of the 307 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: great stick men of all time. Warren Batty iconic nineteen 308 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: seventies movie which this was st one of his first 309 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: films that brought him to stickman status. He was in 310 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: a movie called Shampoo. You know where that took place 311 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: Gerald in a fucking barbershop he was. He was a 312 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: hairdresser and he would bang every single one of his 313 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: clients that came in there. Famous movie. It sort of 314 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: brought him to the forefront of all things stickman. He was. 315 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: Every client that came in there, he would give him 316 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: the high horse. He'd be blow drying their their hair 317 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: and the next thing they'd be blow drying him bum 318 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: Bump Coming to America. Of course, the famous scene with 319 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy and Arsinel Hall, probably the first time Eddie 320 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Murphy showed his skills playing multiple characters at once. Mama, 321 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: name of Clay, I'm gonna call him Clay. Remember this, 322 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: This scene took place in a barbershop. Ice Cube produced 323 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: a movie and several sequels to the movie called Barbershop 324 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: Shows movies, scenes from movies, al capone. Remember in the 325 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: movie The Untouchables, famous scene takes place in a barbershop, 326 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: he's getting a shave. The guy has the razor at 327 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: his neck talking all his ship. The other movie I 328 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: can't remember, Malcolm X the movie great scene that takes 329 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: place in a barbershop. Barbershops are a place where everybody 330 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: goes to. There's been several scenes in movies and television 331 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: that take place in a barbershop. Lebron James, you didn't 332 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: come up with this fucking concept. You didn't invent the 333 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: concept of doing something in a barbershop, whether it's called 334 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: the Shop, Talk Shop, Barbershop Coming to America, or the 335 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: movie Shampoo where the great Warren Batty showed his stick 336 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: man skills for the entire world and now Lebron James 337 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: is trying to sue Nick Saban and the makers of 338 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: their show Talk Shop. Lebron James holds your fucking head. Okay, 339 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: nobody infringed, Okay on this idea. You didn't come up 340 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: with this idea. I hope Eddie Murphy are senior Hole 341 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: and Paramount Pictures. Sue you're fucking ass Okay. How would 342 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: you like it if Warren Batty comes after you for 343 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: stealing his idea for shampoo? You just can't help yourself 344 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: from being Lebron James. And why would Lebron James with 345 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: his patchy, questionable suspect hair. I want to bring any 346 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: more attention to anything that has to do with barber shops. Obviously, 347 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: obviously you don't have the right guy covering your motherfucking 348 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: ball spots. Every single night we watched you play, we 349 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: have to sit there and look at your patchy, motherfucking head. 350 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: And you want to try to sue Nick Saban, who 351 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: by the way, has a beautiful head of salt and 352 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: pepper hair. What the fund is you doing, Duke? I 353 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: don't got nothing to say. Man, you talk about Lebron uh, 354 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I like Lebron I like him too, 355 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: but well why why? I mean, this is why Lebron 356 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: James will never ever be like Mike. It's because of 357 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: this little bullshit. You didn't invent the concept. You didn't 358 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: invent barbershops, you'd invent a concept. I mean, I just 359 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: did this off the dome piece, these couple of scenes 360 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: that I I recall that took place in the barbershop, 361 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: and now you're trying to sue somebody because you. I mean, 362 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: ESPN has done many different segments. My man's Scoop Jackson, 363 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: you know Scoop Jackson from ESPN. I know he's done 364 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: segments that take place in barbershops years ago, Like he 365 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: didn't come up with There's been commercials, plenty of commercials 366 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: that take place in barbershops with dudes talking ship. What 367 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: was the barber in Brownsville that we they used to 368 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: go to, Oh, fucking Alex, fucking my man Louis all 369 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, remember Alex over there right 370 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: there around the corner from your house. We used to 371 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: do and everybody talks in barbershops. Lebron James, this is 372 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: this is what you're doing with yourself. This is what 373 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: you're doing heading into the playoffs, and then when the 374 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: reporters him asked him about it, he's like, Oh, I 375 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about now we're talking about it. Duke. 376 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: You don't get to dictate what we want to talk 377 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: about it. What we don't want to talk about, we're 378 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: talking about it. This is the perfect storm, This is 379 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: the perfect thing heading into the playoffs to break Lebron 380 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: James balls. The whole way through, you were doing fantastic 381 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: and playing eighty two games, great feet. Somebody needs to 382 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: tell in the hole his fucking head and chill out, yo. 383 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: Lebron will be all right, man. Police are hunting for 384 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: a monkey. This is insane in India, no bullshit. The 385 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: authorities are searching for a monkey that snatched a baby, 386 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: a newborn baby, from a house in the village of Talabasta. 387 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: I'm probably not saying it correctly. A relative of a 388 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: sixteen day old baby was found dead in a well. 389 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 1: This is a tragedy. The baby was sleeping next to 390 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: some other monkeys roamed free out there in India. That's 391 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: the problem. The baby was snatched up by a monkey 392 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: and found dead. But they're on like a man hunt 393 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: or should I say, a monkey hunt to try to 394 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: find the monkey? What are they gonna do? Find the 395 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: monkey like convictim of a crime? It's a fucking monkey. 396 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: You can't control these monkeys, and and they have free 397 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: reiin so if you had animal control, like a fucking 398 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: regg of the society, you wouldn't have this ship. But 399 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: but if they find the monkey, what are they gonna do? 400 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: Put him in the court of law or are they 401 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: gonna kill him? It's not like monkeys have like they 402 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: don't have like you know, licenses and ship. How are 403 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: you gonna figure out which monkey took the baby? I mean, 404 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: this is a terrible story. It's a true story. It's 405 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: a real story. But if they actually do catch the monkey, 406 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: if that's possible, what are they gonna do with him? 407 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: Penalizing he's a murderer? Right? Why why go after him? 408 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: If you allow the monkeys to roam free, they did, 409 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: he didn't do nothing wrong? Ship you you let him 410 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: roam free? What you think is gonna happen? All right? Listen, Moody, 411 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: I want you to get yourself into an ice bath. Okay, 412 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: get yourself into an ebsin salt ice bath. Soak your 413 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: motherfucking back. Okay, because you sound fucked up, duke. I'm 414 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: gonna be honest. You don't sound right. You sound salt duke. 415 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: You need to get yourself into an Ebsen salt ice bath. Okay, 416 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna jump into this. Let's just recovery day, man. Okay. Well, 417 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask Metal World Peace about fucking recovery day. Okay. 418 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: Queens is in the House. The artists formerly known as 419 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: Ron Artest, currently known as Metal World Peace, iconic outspoken 420 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: shit talker, honest as can be. Metal World Peace Coming 421 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: up next on the I M Rappaport Stereo podcast, Let's 422 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: do It, Miles Jordan's take me in the Metal with 423 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: something funny, Take Me in the Metal with a smack. 424 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: All right, this is it. I'm fucking hyped up about this. 425 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Metal World Peace is in the building. Queen's Finest. Yes, yes, 426 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: one of them, but one of the last from Queens 427 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: playing in the NBA. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta kind 428 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: of fix us a situation, you know, but you know 429 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: it's happened. We got my sons, you know. But but 430 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: they're listen my kids too, like they think they're from 431 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: New York they're they're California kids. Yeah, it's true, it's 432 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: and it's true. They do think they're from where you're from. 433 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: They want that's good metalworld peace. I appreciate you rockinging 434 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: me man. I've been a fan for a long time, 435 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: funk with you since high school. Heard about you St. John's, 436 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls, Indiana Pacers. And I'll remind you this. The 437 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: first time I met you two thousand four, you were 438 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: All starred with Indiana. I met you with my kids, 439 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: they were two and four at the All Star Game. 440 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: I was there doing something with NBA TV or something 441 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: like this before the Saturday workout, which is really a 442 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: joke for most of the players. You were in there 443 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: with Rick Carlisle was your coach, full sweat, full leather, 444 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: full workout on the Saturday before the quote unquote practice. 445 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna name names, but players came in 446 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: there smelling like things that NBA played, But you were 447 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: in there busting as you were nice to my kids. 448 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: But I remember how impressed I was because that weekend, 449 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: All Star weekend in Los Angeles, it was you know, 450 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: it's a free froll, it's a party. You have a 451 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: full workout though, full workout with your coach, like on 452 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: a Saturday during All Star break. You know, at that point, 453 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: I was playing so well and my goal was just 454 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: to be the best man. And I still had a 455 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: lot of issues off the cut, but my goal that 456 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: year was like, Okay, I'm gonna be the best player 457 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: in the league. I knew we had Shock, I knew 458 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: we had Kobe, and I knew it was gonna take work. 459 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: I came into the league only average and eleven points. 460 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: It wasn't a lot, but they went up to twelve 461 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: when the fifteen with the eighteen and then he got 462 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: spend it was that and you know that was like 463 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: you got suspended. Yeah I did. I don't know how to, 464 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: don't know what the fun where it happened, but go ahead, 465 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know I got I was averaging twenty 466 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: four that year points and I knew like the next 467 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: year would have been twenty six. And then on top 468 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: of that, you're not only getting scrolling, but you're getting 469 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: that lockdown defense. So my goal was to just be 470 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: a clear, clearly the best player in the league. On 471 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: the other side, on the west side, you saw Kobe 472 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: not only a great offensive player, but his defense started 473 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: to get better, you see, and his offense was still improving. 474 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: So I felt like I was on my way to 475 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: being um and and talks before that offends six and 476 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: m VP voting. Nobody remembers that because they only remember 477 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: the m v P. But I was number six and 478 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: I only could go up from there. Did you feel like, 479 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, I remember you were talking about that and 480 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: and and you know, like being the best player in 481 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: the league, and you know that's sort of like a 482 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: cliche that everybody says, but like you were actually doing it, 483 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: you know. But you know at the time, you know, 484 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: you have Alan, you have Kobe, you have these guys 485 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: that are jumping there, they're doing all and your game. 486 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: One thing that I always loved about your game, and 487 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: I remember clearly, clear as day. I remember was at 488 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: the other end of the court watching you work out 489 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: with Rick Carlisle during the All Star break, is like 490 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: your game was never flashy, like your game was, you know, 491 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: even if even if yours your physical problems, like you 492 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 1: were never a high flyer, great footwork, great fundamentals, you know, 493 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: and but here you are saying I'm gonna be the 494 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: number one player. But you're not dunking on anybody. You 495 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: not crossing anybody over. It was like a throwback. It 496 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: wasn't a throwback, it was just a basic well, yeah, 497 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: it was very basic. You know. I definitely never was 498 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: a high flyer. When I got older, a lot of 499 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: people said round our tests or metal World pieces, losing 500 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: his athleticism. I'm like, I was never athletic. You never 501 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: had a step. Never when I was at rookie. You'll 502 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: see fast break dunks. When I was on the fast 503 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: break and struggling to dunk with two hens at times. 504 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: I never had spring. But for me, it was all 505 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: about when I get a post position, making sure I 506 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: hit your shoulder and keeping that keeping the angle to 507 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: my favorite so I can get it easily. Sometimes I 508 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't even jump, So it was like a lot of 509 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: things like that that helped me scroll, Like lots of points, 510 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: little stuff like that, like you said, hitting his shoulder. 511 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: Because I've talked to other people on this podcast, Stephen Jackson, Kenyan, Martin, 512 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: when I asked them who were the toughest people to guard, Obviously, 513 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: they mentioned Shaq Kenyan went against him in the fucking 514 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: finals at his when he was Yeah, that was amazing. 515 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: Kenyon did great, But but he talked about you being 516 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: the strongest motherfucker when so when you're talking about like 517 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 1: hitting people's shoulder, you know, and how conscious were you 518 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: of these sort of tricks of the trade, and and 519 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: did you learn them? How did you learn them? Well? 520 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: The way I learned how to kind of, you know, 521 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: get buckets was really just try and try and try it. 522 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: And I wasn't a good player. I got tired of 523 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: running into people. And that didn't work in the NBA 524 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: because everybody's strong, everybody big. You're not just gonna go 525 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: in in and get two points. So I had to 526 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: find other ways to make it work. So I started 527 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: working on my little fade away jumper because I wasn't 528 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: able to jump over people. So I added that to 529 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: my game. Had a little draft step, has some has 530 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: some hit work in the post, added the three ball, 531 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: added the met range jumper. You know, so everything I 532 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: started to add that, you know, sometimes I would. I 533 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: never got forty in the NBA, you never. I never 534 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: had forty. I had thirty nine twice. I had a 535 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: couple of twenties and maybe a couple of thirties. But 536 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: because I was always locking up on defense, you know, 537 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: so all my energy was on deefense, but I didn't 538 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: have the opportunities to score. But never liket. But the 539 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: only when I have twenty four. The only reason I 540 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: had twenty four was because Steve Jackson. So Steve Jackson 541 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: and me, we will argue who's guarding the best player? 542 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: You guys would both want it. We would ague. I'm like, Steve, 543 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: I got this tonight. He's like, no, I got this. 544 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: So we're on the court like, motherfucker, I got this. Motherfucker. 545 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck you, I got this. Mother So I'm 546 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: like ship, It's like there's no there's no real arguing 547 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: with Steve Jackson. So I'm like, okay, Steve, you got him. 548 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: So every game Steve was guarding the best place, so 549 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: I was freed up, you know, to go to work. 550 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: That's dope though, that you guys, like two guys on 551 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: the same team that we're like into playing defense. We 552 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: literally will argue about who who Who's god in the 553 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: best players. I mean that that team, like you know, 554 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: the malice and all that, it's been covered and discussed 555 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: so much, but like that team and you guys had 556 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: ballers you were tough, azing. I mean when you look 557 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: like obviously won the championship with the Lakers, Like, do 558 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: you think if things hadn't gotten fucking all crazy that 559 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: that team could have really, like, you guys could have 560 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: won a CHAMPIONSI everything that you know about basketball now, 561 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: Like realistically, I'm not gonna say we could have won 562 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: because I don't want to discredit the people that won. 563 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that, and I don't want to. 564 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm very confident, but I don't know. But we was 565 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: definitely in a position. We won sixty one games the 566 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: year before that. You know, we started out that year 567 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: we won sixty one games. We started out sixteen and one. 568 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: Those that Pacer team was sixteen and one. We started 569 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: out sixteen and one. And then and that's when Reggie 570 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: Miller was out. I mean, so our Harrington was playing 571 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: three and I was playing the two. That's crazy. That 572 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: was so we could not be beat. But then when 573 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: Reggie came back, Reggie got the start in spot back 574 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: because Reggie Billy Hall of Fame of and I always 575 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: thought like if me and I'll stayed at that too, three. 576 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: And then Reggie, you know, came off the bench, we 577 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: probably would have won seventy games, but it was sixteen 578 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: and one. Does it just not work that way? Or 579 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: like he would have to say, I'm cool with coming 580 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: off the bench, Reggie, Right, Well, I mean I don't 581 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: really know, and I mean I'm just saying, like, you know, 582 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: the team that we had was really that good. And 583 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: then we got Steve Jackson. The next year, still had 584 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: Reggie Miller, and I think all Harrington was gone, so 585 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, so and we started out about we started 586 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: I think he was I got suspend the nine games in, 587 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: so we was seven and two. I think when I 588 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: got suspended was it nine games in? That happened? He 589 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: was nine games in two? Reggie Miller. I mean as 590 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: a Knicks fan, and I told him to his face. 591 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: And when I say it always from I couldn't fucking 592 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: stand that more like I mean, I fucking hated him, 593 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: and he thrived on that hate. He did. He loved it. 594 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: How good was Reggie Miller when he was cooking? How 595 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: good was he to watch him shoot around? Like what 596 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: is the legacy of Reggie Miller? Like to play with him, 597 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: to see it up close, especially when you were a 598 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: young player, Reggie Stephen cary Um, Jerry West, you know 599 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: so many great shooters. He's kind of similar to me. 600 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: Whereas I was big but not athleg he was slim 601 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: and not athletic. Had to figure it out, so he's 602 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: not gonna go in in being with two thirty pounds 603 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: small forwards six really small forward height. He figured it 604 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: out and got a wet ball from the outside. I 605 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: remember him being at practice, shoot him before practice, shooting 606 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: after practice, then in game days, Uh, shooting before shooting arounds. 607 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: Uh get into the gym at three thirty for a 608 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: seven thirty game something like that, And I remember me 609 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: just saying, I don't have the mental patience to be 610 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: there after. I need the game to start. Reggie was 611 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: very disciplined. It was real. It wasn't just a fluke. 612 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: It wasn't a fluke. It wasn't a fluke. He was. 613 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: He put in the work. All people see is the shots, 614 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: you know, Reggie coming off corner baseline screens, but they 615 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: don't see their practice. I wish they were have filmed 616 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: that because it was very impressive. What uh Larry Bird 617 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: was the GM at the time. Did he ever come 618 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: down and shoot around with you guys? Larry was all 619 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: the time. He liked you, like he talked about like you, 620 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: he liked your game, he was like a fan of yours. Well, 621 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, I was on the cover of Sports Illustrated 622 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: with Larry, with Larry behind me, and I kind of 623 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: wish that would have ever happened, because Larry had my back, 624 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: and I feel like I didn't have his back when 625 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: the bro happened. When the brol happened, it was a 626 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: couple of reasons why I didn't have Larry's back. One 627 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 1: was because I was very stuck in my own ways. 628 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: So even though he had my back, I wasn't mentally 629 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: strong enough to say, Okay, you need to relax, you 630 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: need to chill out. People actually like you. Because I 631 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: didn't trust anybody at the time, nobody. I never trust anybody, 632 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: So for somebody to come and show love, I'm like, 633 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: fuck that, you know. Some motherfucker don't like me, you know. 634 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: And that's the approach I always took. So anytime somebody 635 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: was to help me, I'm like fuck that, you know. 636 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: And um, then when I got suspended, they all had 637 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: my back. The whole pace of the organization was behind 638 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: every single one of them. Okay, I was like wow, 639 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, but I got there. The next year, I 640 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: asked for trade. And that is the reason. It was 641 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: a couple of reasons I asked for trade. One was 642 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: because I started to get this sense of entitlement after 643 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: even after the BRO. That's the type of selfish person 644 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: I was. Even after the BRO, I still was like, Okay, 645 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: brawl's over. Now it is back to regular old iron, 646 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: fuck you right and um and funk everybody right, you see. 647 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: And and that approach that I had was not one 648 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: of a team player. So it's not one of a 649 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: great player, you know, it's not one. When I tell 650 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: when I talk to kids to this day, I'm like, listening, 651 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: put all that energy into the game, you know what 652 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was talking to my son ever day. 653 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: So one of my sons are super passionate, and I 654 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: got it. I had to tell him at eight years old, like, yo, 655 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 1: put all that into the game. Stop doing a little bullshit, 656 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: tangle up fouls. Put all that into ther game. Now. 657 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: My news. My older son, he's a little bit more reserved, 658 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: but I know he got it in him because he 659 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: got the artists blood. I know he got it in him. 660 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: So then the other days eight teens. So the other 661 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: day I'm like, motherfucker, you gotta practice harder than that. 662 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: Getting tired of the ship. So he goes out those 663 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: food courts, don't go somebody head and he never calls fouls. Right, 664 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: So I'm like, son, you have to call fouls and 665 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 1: pick up games because if you don't call a foul, 666 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: your team is always gonna lose. So the only day 667 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: he said foul, took the ball, give me the fun 668 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: the ball. I've never seen this from my eighteen year 669 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: old son. Okay, you see it, but I'm like, son, 670 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: that's what I want. But put it into the game. 671 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: Did Who was anyone telling you to put it into 672 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: the game? I mean before they correct me from wrong, 673 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: before the fucking mal It's like I was like, this dude, 674 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: just a ballplayer, Like I mean, it was a tough, 675 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: hard news player. But like there was no that's because 676 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: nobody saw the practices. Okay, somebody saw the off the 677 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: course ship. I was crazy, Okay, okay, a lot of crazy. 678 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you some stories. So one story, I was 679 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: at St. John's. I was in my jobs office. Nobody 680 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: was there. A former coach, former coach, I love my jobs. 681 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: He lives in Florida. I actually go see him one 682 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: of these days and um, you know, he was like, no, 683 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 1: nobody was there. I need to get home. I practiced 684 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: hard after practice, stayed for like two or three hours 685 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: just going to work, and I couldn't get home, and 686 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: I was hungry, and I felt like shouldn't. I can't 687 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: get home, so fuck this and tore up the whole office, 688 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: so everybody family pictures, broke, the family pitches through chess 689 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 1: through the window. Are you serious? Um, trash the whole 690 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: ship like a hurricane. Then after it was trashed, I 691 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: leave the office and then I walked back into the 692 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: office like, oh fuck. So then I started cleaning up 693 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: um the office that I call our basketball coordinator, Alex Evans. 694 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: I said, Alex, I fucked the office up, um, you know, 695 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: And I was at Saint John's right. There's a bunch 696 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: of other stories I can tell you in the league. 697 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: You were the first basketball player that I heard acknowledge 698 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: mental health when the Lakers won the championship, correct me 699 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: from wrong. I think you gave a shout out to 700 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: your therapist, like right off, psychologists psychologist. You know this 701 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: year since the All Star Break. You know, Kevin Love, 702 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: Demarsa rosen Um, A handful of other people have spoken 703 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: out about mental health in the NBA ty Lou situation. 704 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's physical, but stress is Yeah, yeah, 705 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: what does it mean to you mental health? Like you 706 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: donated money to mental health awareness, to mental health charities, 707 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: and why did you start doing it? How has this 708 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: sort of helped you? And like where do you think 709 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: it's going in the NBA, because the stereotype of black dude, 710 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: queen's bridge hood. It's not like therapists, psychotherapy, mental health. 711 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, I'm about about it. I'm hard body. 712 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay hard body. And you sort of broke 713 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: the fucking stereotype. Like, you broke the stereotype and you 714 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: sort of created this stereotype with the malice. So what 715 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: does all mental health stuff mean to you? Yeah, it's 716 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: very important to me because you gotta think about it. 717 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: You have players that's coming into sports getting paid millions 718 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: of dollars and nobody you know the backstories, and people 719 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: always say money doesn't make you better, and it magnifies 720 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: who you are. You know, money, the money magnified who 721 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: I was, who I wanted to be when I was 722 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: a kid. And then I sow the opportunity to make money, 723 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: and you can get girls, and you could just buy 724 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: ship and go to the clubs, and that's and that's 725 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. And and now I can 726 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,240 Speaker 1: bring all my boys with me and and we're super 727 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 1: hard and and now you know, whoever wanted they could 728 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: get it. Like everything that I was about was magnified 729 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: and all all all the whether it was bad or 730 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: whether it was problems, it was magnified. And and the 731 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: money called did that to me, you see what I'm saying. 732 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: So when I got to the championship, and I think 733 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: my side my psychologist, it was just all the trials 734 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: and triplations I've been through, and it took other people 735 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: talk to talk to to really help me figure my 736 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: life out, not somebody else's life or somebody I want 737 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: to be, you know. And then something I always wanted, 738 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: which was a ring, and it took ten years and suspensions, 739 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: and I finally got one, you know. So it was 740 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: a great It was a great time to let people know, 741 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 1: Like without my psychologists, I don't think this would than possible. Right. Absolutely, 742 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: you were obviously in therapy and and like just like 743 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: hearing like a look at you your fucking good, your 744 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: run hard test, your metal world peace, Like you're like 745 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: that dude. And then you're like, you know, going into therapy, 746 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: it's like almost like fucking sopranos, Like you know, you're 747 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: like Tony Soprano and therapy, Like you wouldn't expect Tony 748 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: Soprano went therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to. It's 749 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: too there's so many things that could affect you. You 750 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: can go you could be watching TV. You can see 751 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: a war in the Middle East. It's show a graphic 752 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: picture kid leg blown off, Like that affects you, right, 753 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: You're like, oh man, that's so messed up. That energy 754 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: that you just consumed. You're walking out your house with 755 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 1: that and not like, oh man, that's just gonna stuff. 756 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: And you walk at your house and you don't fail 757 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: that anymore, you know, or if a family member died, 758 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: or if you're separated from a loved one, or if 759 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: somebody disrespected you, you know, anything, maybe Auntie struggling. Like 760 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: there's so many things that people don't address that you 761 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: just put It's like putting money in the piggy bank. 762 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: Will you just put any emotion and your emotional bank, 763 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes people don't let things out, you know, 764 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: and you just carry this for years and years and 765 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: years and adding to it and adding to it, you know, um, 766 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: and never addressed it, right, you see what I'm saying. 767 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: And and for me, it was like I need to 768 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: start addressing everything right because I wanna at this point, 769 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm almost forty, and I like, at this point, I 770 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: want to feel how I feel today. I want to 771 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: be going downhill, you know, when I'm eighty seven. I 772 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: want to be feeling good. And I said, you know, 773 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be stressing and being on some 774 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: though ship or whatever you wanna call it at the 775 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: age of forty five, right, I got you know, what 776 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: do you think of the tyler uh leaving? You know, 777 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: like based on what you know what they're they're saying. 778 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: It's like they're like, well, he'll be back in a week. 779 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, you shouldn't. I mean, I don't know 780 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: what the funk he's going through. But if you're if 781 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: you're having heard stuff like you shouldn't take a week 782 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: off like it should be like, yo, we don't know 783 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: when the funk you're coming back. Well, what is your 784 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: your take on on his situation with with the Cavaliers. Well, 785 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what he's gonna go through. 786 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: I just know he's out. Um, I thought it was. 787 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: I've seen Tyler when he played, and I've seen him 788 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: as a coach. He got a little bit chunky. To me, 789 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: he got some nice checks. I think he got more 790 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: money as a coaching as a player, you know, So 791 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: maybe he's eating good and maybe even more in and 792 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: out vigas or something. I don't know if I'm like 793 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 1: with health, I'm thinking, um, body health. Is it the 794 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: food that he's consuming? Because I did see him and 795 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: I saw his guts got the Tyrone lou here in 796 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: three is one of the championships. So you know, I 797 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: think as a player, when you retire, you gotta take 798 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: care of your body physically, mentally, emotionally. I don't know 799 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: which one is affecting him, but I think, like, I 800 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: don't think he's working out as much as he did 801 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,439 Speaker 1: when he was a player. Can a basketball coach even 802 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: find time? Hard? It's really hard to find time because 803 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: when I coach, you know, luckily I can still playing 804 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: and coach Kobe of the South Bay Lakes when I 805 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: coached that team. I play with him sometimes, But it's 806 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: hard to play. It's hard to stay in shape as 807 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: a coach because you're on your feet the whole time. 808 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: Are you staying it? Could? Big Three's coming up? Ron, 809 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: I'm the fucking sideline reporter. I call it like it is, 810 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: all right, And I'm telling you right now that fourteen 811 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: second clock is reality? Is that fourteen second clock is reality? 812 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: Are you are? Where? Where are you at? Like? How 813 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: much ball are you playing? You mean you look good? 814 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: Can we run up and down the court even in 815 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: half court? Like? What do we got? What do we 816 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 1: got to offer? From three? I mean I'm in I'm 817 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 1: in decent shape. I'm in good enough shape to play. Um, 818 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: but we're gonna see. But I'm definitely getting the shape 819 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: and I've definitely been playing a lot of ball. And um, 820 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: who do you play? And it's only once a week? 821 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: So that's even better? Right? Who who do you play 822 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: ball with? Now? Like it's not like you can go 823 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: to the park and play like with me. That is 824 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: not a lot of people right now. But you know, 825 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: it's all it's all about how hard you go? So 826 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: if I play with some people at a park, it's 827 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: not about dumb, It's about me. How hard am I playing? Right? 828 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying? And I did that the 829 00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: other day. I was just show up at a park, 830 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: play everywhere, and motherfucker's are just like, are they like? 831 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: I got this guy? I got on my team? I'm like, 832 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: what team I am I on? When I walk into 833 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: the park, or if I walked to like a gym, 834 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: that's dope. But I actually my last one I played 835 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: with some Chinese kids. But I so I have an 836 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: app called Gridelo. The reason I developed this app? What 837 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: is it called Gridelo? The reason was because when I 838 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: was semi retired, I still want to play ball. I 839 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: don't want the NBA saying your career is over and 840 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 1: then what do you do next? Because the NBA is 841 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: not gonna help you find another place to play. Basketball's 842 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: on you and sometimes overseas is not gonna let you play. 843 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: I want to play ball, So I developed an app 844 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 1: where I can play ball. So now I can play 845 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: ball against really good competition. Because it's hard to say, Okay, 846 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Equalnox today or I'm gonna go 847 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: to veteran park and find ballers. Maybe I'm in Italy 848 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,480 Speaker 1: today because I'm traveling doing business and I still want 849 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: to find really good ballers. So I said, you know what, 850 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to develop it. It's dope for myself and 851 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: I'll be finding good competition. What's what's cool. It's like 852 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 1: grade l O so g R A d E l 853 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 1: o um dot com is the actual company, but then 854 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: the app that's where you can actually like going. Do 855 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: you think you're involved with a lot of business stuff, 856 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: like you're you're you're taking advantage of your resources in 857 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: l A. You're taking advantage of being a champion in 858 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: l A. Uh. Your former teammate Kobe Yeah, somehow, some way, 859 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: I mean only fucking Kobe Bryant would say I'm gonna 860 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,760 Speaker 1: make movies. Make one movie and then when a goddamn 861 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: oscar right out the box. What are you passionate about 862 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 1: outside of your family, outside of your kids, outside of 863 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: showing out at the Big Three? You know, you've got 864 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,959 Speaker 1: the clothing line, the pan, his best friend, pant, his friends, 865 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: you got apps? What like in five, six, seven years 866 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: when you're definitely you know, not playing in any high 867 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: level of basketball what are you passionate about? Yes, right now, 868 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm passionate about digital marketing. Uh, it's the foundation of 869 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: sports to me, a sports business. And there's a lot 870 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: of athletes out there that don't get the attention um 871 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: that high level athlete would get. Whether they get Stay 872 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: Farm commercials, Gatorade, Nike, Um Insurance, and mex And then 873 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 1: what happens with that and NBA. Not only do you 874 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: get those brands, you get all their marketing teams. So 875 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: then Stay Farm is marketing you so much, is actually 876 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,479 Speaker 1: helping Gatorade, And then they're both marketing. That's helping Nike, 877 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 1: that's helping your sales, like from all angles. Well, the 878 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: problem is if you're just as good as another player, 879 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: but he has more endorsements than you, then you're never 880 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: gonna reap the benefits of or even reach up potential 881 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: of like endorsements and the amount of money you can 882 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: make the amount of money you can make hy optimize 883 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: your brand. So when I went back to u c 884 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: l A the summer for digital analytics on Mondays and 885 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: I went to school, Yeah I was in school, that's 886 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: fucking dope. Yeah, I was. I was a math major 887 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: in college college and architect majors. So I mean a 888 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: lot of people don't notice because I was just so 889 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: passionate and I just I seem crazy, but you know 890 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,399 Speaker 1: I was crazy. Actually, were you a good student when 891 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 1: you wanted to be? I wasn't a good student. I 892 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: was a hungry student. Okay, so people when you were 893 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 1: a kid, Yeah, I just didn't like to fail and 894 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: I did feel a lot. But I was very aggressive, 895 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: like in terms of like studying and ship. I was 896 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: super aggressive. Um So then like and then I went 897 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: to on saturdays. I was going to Concordia, Irvine and 898 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: o C this past summer this summer for business analytics, 899 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: and then I was going to Vancouver for Google analytics. 900 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: So you're not working around no, no, absolutely not super 901 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: aggressive with this digital market and digital aalytics. Okay, So 902 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: you got Kobe Ye, give me your your best Kobe. 903 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean you were you were like arrival with Kobe 904 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: and then he's like he came got you like you know, 905 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: you went at it when you were with Houston, Like 906 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: you guys went at it. He's doing it. He's the best. 907 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: Why why was he the best? I mean he was 908 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: the best, and I want to be the best. We 909 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: have a problem ever since every time I played against him, 910 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: I have a major issue because he's clearly the best. 911 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: I want to be the best, and at this point 912 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: i'm not. So I'm not your fucking friend, like I 913 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: want your spot. Um. And it was hard to get 914 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: a spot because I was I wasn't stable enough for 915 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: when I was beating myself, so I didn't even have 916 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: a chance, you know. But um, he was the best 917 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: because his work, ethic, his fundamentals. I'm sure he's been 918 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,280 Speaker 1: around pros for his whole life. He's been around Mike D'Antonio, 919 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 1: who's in Italy. He's been around his dad in Italy. Um, 920 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,760 Speaker 1: he has something. He has some of the best coaching 921 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 1: you can possibly get, you know. And and then he 922 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: had that drive, um and he and he's been through 923 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: he saw it all. His dad played in the league. 924 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: So I think all that made him who he was 925 00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: so many things um, and he's always thinking UM. So 926 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: when I met him, I'm like, wow, this is this 927 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: is the guy. This is the guy. It was It 928 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: was clear, it was clear why he was the guy. 929 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 1: And I watched him practice, I'm like, oh wow, I 930 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: thought I was the most intense, so our intensity levels 931 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,319 Speaker 1: was pretty similar. I think his was a notch up 932 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,839 Speaker 1: because how he approached the game. It was all about 933 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: the game. It was all about the game. Me, it 934 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,399 Speaker 1: wasn't all about the game. It was all about who. 935 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't fucking like when I step on the court. 936 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Sometimes it wasn't about basketball. Um, 937 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's that New York ship. 938 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. And he you know, Kobe, I I 939 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: appreciate how you how you approached the game. Then it 940 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: helped me become a basketball player. When I met Kobe, 941 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 1: when you start, when you played with him, when I 942 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 1: played with him, I was like, Okay, it's all about 943 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 1: the game. It's all about the game. It is true. 944 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: You lamar odom Elton brand. We're on an a AU 945 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,359 Speaker 1: team in New York. Yeah, you Lamar Elton. Who else 946 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: is on this team? I mean, do you even need 947 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: anybody else? Yeah? Eric Barkerley was the first round pick 948 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: the next year after me and Lamar. We was all 949 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: on the same team. We had We had a monster 950 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: We had a monster team. Did you ever lose? We 951 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,560 Speaker 1: lost one game? Beat you? We lost one game. The 952 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: Baron Davis team, they beat us by twenty, and then 953 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: we came back in the championship and beat them by 954 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 1: like forty. So the only team that beat us with 955 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 1: the team we beat back in the finals. But like 956 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 1: we played against Shane Batty a team one time and 957 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: beat them by like thirty or forty. This is all 958 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: when you're in high school school we beat teams. We 959 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 1: just winning championships by fifty. We got to a point 960 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: where we would get to the championship game and we 961 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: would say, okay, how much we're gonna try to win by? 962 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: You know, it was that it was that bad. Who 963 00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: is the best at that time? Elton was always the best, 964 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,720 Speaker 1: Lamar was always second, Me and Eric Barkley was always 965 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 1: like third of fourth, even, but we all did things differently. Defensively, 966 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: I was the best. How when you started playing together? 967 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 1: We started at third teen fourteen are you fucking serious? 968 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: Started and Lamar's from Queens. We all pushed each other. 969 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: That's sometimes we have fights in practice, you know, you know, 970 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,720 Speaker 1: me and Lamar, Me and Lama multiple time to have fights. 971 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: And me and Elton we started throwing punches on a 972 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: layup line in front of a bunch of college scouts 973 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: and you're on the same team. You're in front of 974 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: Duke and everybody. I'm like, fuck this ship, fuck you. 975 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: And we just saw each other so much. So when 976 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: he was on Lain, I passed on the ball, he 977 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 1: passed me to boy. I thought he threw it at 978 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: me hard, so I got the ball. I threw it 979 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: at him. Know what, then did you start doing punches? 980 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: That's funny? For no reason? He was crazy. When you 981 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: look at Lamar, I mean Lamar, you know him, you 982 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 1: grew up with him and and all the ship that 983 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 1: he's been through, and I've known the more a little 984 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: bit and always like this is a nice guy, you know, 985 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: like he's a sweet guy, and like this craziness that 986 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: he's got involved with. Are you still in touch with him? 987 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes I speak to Lamar. I mean I have his number. 988 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: Um Our lives are totally different. I don't have like 989 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: a lot of friends that I'm that I play with 990 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: poss because I was always struggling mentally, so I would 991 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: go home because I have my family at home. So 992 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 1: not only was I struggling, I had to get home 993 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to keep my household in order, which 994 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: was very tough because not only was I struggling, but 995 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 1: then I still wanted that other life of fame and 996 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,919 Speaker 1: what money can get you, all that hip hop ship. 997 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: So I didn't throughout the time, I didn't develop like 998 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: a lot of close close friendships and in NBA, like 999 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 1: I've never had like lunch with Lottmar or Elton some 1000 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: of my best friends, or even Steve Jackson or even 1001 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: Inharenton still now still still to this day, and not 1002 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: only am I in a different mind state, but didn't 1003 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 1: Even now it's like I'm catching up on time that 1004 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: I missed with my family. You know what I'm saying, 1005 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 1: Like the eighteen years that my daughter was living beyond, 1006 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't there mentally I got you. So now I'm 1007 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: like I'm catching up on time. So I still don't 1008 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: really have a lot of time to really mingle A lot. 1009 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 1: I got you. I picked my take my daughter to 1010 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: school every morning. I bring a lunch at twelve. You 1011 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: know when I can. When I'm not practicing with South 1012 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 1: Bay Lakes, I practiced with both of my sons. You know, 1013 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: every day, I'm uh, my daughter wants to be a chef. 1014 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 1: I have to be president. You know all the time. 1015 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: So um, and my kids live with me, you know. UM, 1016 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: and I got divorced, you know, when I was thirty 1017 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 1: two years on thirty eight, So my kids live with me. 1018 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: So I don't have a lot of time to do 1019 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, whatever are you coaching? So I 1020 00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: coached high school Palisades assistant coach the Bad Champions, you're 1021 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 1: the assistant coach was two years ago. Then I coached 1022 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. I was assistant coach a little bit for 1023 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills a couple of years ago. And You're not 1024 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: doing this for the money, No, no, no, I'm doing 1025 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 1: it for the experience, and I'm doing it to see 1026 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: how how I'm gonna coach. I'm trying to found out 1027 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,399 Speaker 1: my rhythm. And then I coach Hellcrest Academy this year 1028 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: with Whild coaching, UM South Bay Lake Development Coach, assistant 1029 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: development coach, and then I coach in the summertime. So 1030 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: I got I got like three or four teams in 1031 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: a summertime that I coach. How do you knowing your 1032 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: work ethic and knowing that the fundamentals that you developed 1033 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: throughout your career and we're in a day and age 1034 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: where I call it the instagrammification of defense. Motherfucker's are 1035 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 1: playing sash a defense even in the NBA. Like, people 1036 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,399 Speaker 1: don't want to get caught on the Graham getting crossed over. 1037 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: People don't want to get caught on the Graham getting 1038 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: dunked on. You. You know this better than anyone. You're 1039 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: gonna get fucking banged on it. If you're playing good defense, 1040 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna get crossed over playing defense. And you know 1041 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: that no one likes to play defense. Right there, The 1042 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: first and foremost is if you have the effort to 1043 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: play defense, you're gonna be better than the next person, 1044 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: most likely when you're coaching people that are aren't even 1045 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: as good as you on your worst day. And and 1046 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: there's so much just like, I don't want to get 1047 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: crossed over? How do you deal with that? Knowing that 1048 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: you fucking like you didn't give a funk about. So 1049 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 1: that was the that's the main thing I tell my players. 1050 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 1: Get in his ass. Oh, I'll tell my girls getting 1051 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 1: her ass. Right. So we just took about guys now. 1052 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: And I don't care if he beat you, I want 1053 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: you in his ass the whole time. And and if 1054 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: he beat you, he's gonna give you sixty points tonight. 1055 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't care. I want you in his ass whole time. Now, 1056 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,439 Speaker 1: my players kind of understand that. And um, I got 1057 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: a young team that I coached and the other day 1058 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,919 Speaker 1: we lost about six, but they was playing so aggressive. Um, 1059 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: one time they didn't dive on the floor for a 1060 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: loose ball. So I walked on the court and the 1061 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 1: red call at TECH and I wasn't going to the 1062 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: going to my player, like you motherfucker dive when a 1063 00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: motherfucking floor for the gut and ball. I gotta check. 1064 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,400 Speaker 1: But as I but what do you think of the 1065 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: of the state of defense in the NBA? Like this 1066 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 1: this Wesley Johnson gets crossed over by James Harden the 1067 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: world like it literally became mainstream news. Like in my opinion, 1068 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: it's like it's affecting kids. It's fine with me. Put 1069 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: me on the names all the time of getting dunked. 1070 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: You don't give a funk because you know you're the dunks. 1071 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't like, I've never really been posterized because I 1072 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: always tried to get out the way when those are 1073 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 1: the ones I never wanted to be on the Smody's wall, 1074 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: Like you when you knew it, When you knew it 1075 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: is inevitable, you get out of the way. But I 1076 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: knew it was no. Yeah, some things I can do, Okay, 1077 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 1: So who are the ones that you didn't get out 1078 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: of way? When you look at your career, like, Damn, 1079 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: I wish I wish I had gotten the way, or 1080 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 1: I wish I had fouldom I wish I had grabbed 1081 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 1: like three times when when Meta was Ron artest that 1082 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: you got banged on in the NBA, I never I 1083 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 1: never really come on. Wow, Corey mcghetti one time came 1084 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: over my bed as I was going for a rebound, 1085 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: dunked on me and sat on my shoulders like that 1086 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 1: was That was the really embarrassing and actually hurt my back. 1087 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I cracked some bones in my back. 1088 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: He did the rude like ship it was. It was. 1089 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: It was nasty. It was nasty besides Kobe Bryant, because 1090 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, like the Tales of Kobe. You know, it's 1091 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: like we're just who were the other people? Defensively where 1092 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: you were? Like, I gotta fucking get some sleep. I 1093 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 1: gotta drink some some milk and some orange juice to 1094 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: lock up you know like that we were probably give 1095 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,919 Speaker 1: me give me a specif every single one of them, 1096 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't care if you were like let's say, Bruce 1097 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: Bone or not as to call me offensively like I 1098 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 1: did not want him to score. If you if you 1099 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: average six, I'm keeping you the fucking zero. But who 1100 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: were the ones that like were the hardest to stop? 1101 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: Um Richard Hamilton was pretty hard from keeping him to 1102 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,959 Speaker 1: get his average. What made Rip so good? Well, Rip 1103 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: was running around the whole time. You couldn't lose them. 1104 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: So it was times where I'm not gonna say I 1105 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: didn't have great nights to get them. I had some, 1106 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 1: but Rip ran and ran and ran and ran, and 1107 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: I was amazing to watch and play against. Uh, Kobe, See, 1108 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: but Kobe, he's gonna take what thirty shots? Thirty five shots? 1109 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 1: For me? I when I went into those games, it's like, Okay, 1110 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: if I can keep Kobe under you know, forty shooting, right, 1111 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. You're thinking percentages because he's gonna 1112 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 1: the amount of shots. Yeah, you're not gonna stop him 1113 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: from shooting. Some guys I can stop from shooting, which 1114 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 1: was really cool. Um Graham Hill when he was in 1115 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: his prime. He got hurt early, right, but I was 1116 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 1: able to time his shot. You just like that was 1117 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: just something you you were able to do. I used 1118 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: to block his jump shot. I knew he was taking 1119 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: two tribles, and I knew what the ball is gonna be, 1120 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: so I would just have my hand waiting and I 1121 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: would my hand would be just block the shot. I 1122 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: told you. Kenyan and a couple of other people mentioned 1123 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: you as the strongest person tough to in the post. 1124 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 1: If I ask you who were the heart like who 1125 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: would you say strongest office like down in the block, 1126 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 1: Like who were some of the people like you, like throughout? 1127 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Because you played with some old motherfucker's first league man 1128 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: Harpin was pretty strong. Um, he was pretty strong. Uh 1129 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: you know he and aggressive and really great shape. Um, obviously, 1130 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 1: shock Malone, Alonzo, Carl, what was he? I mean you 1131 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 1: played again. He's like from another era. He's like from 1132 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 1: like from some some other fucking era. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1133 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 1: he's well, yeah, he's definitely from another era. Um. I 1134 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 1: think he would have been really good in today's game 1135 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: because he could shoot, and he's super fast and he 1136 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: could hedge on screens. He would have been amazing in 1137 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 1: today's game. How different is is the NBA today from 1138 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: when we forget when you played, when you first watched it, 1139 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 1: Like if you came in the league, now, how tall 1140 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 1: are you? Are you? Six? Six? When you know dudes 1141 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: now like seven? You see Joel Embi three pointers? Like, 1142 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 1: how different is the NBA? And what do you think 1143 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: of it? Because you were like you like the physicality 1144 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 1: today it's like anti physical, Like it's literally like the 1145 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 1: defenders are at the mercy there at the mercy for me, 1146 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't really I don't like that the game is 1147 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 1: biased towards a weaker player like I played as not 1148 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: as strong as someone. The game is biased physically physically, 1149 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 1: the game is, uh, the rules are made for that 1150 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: player to play. That's not aggressive. The player is that's 1151 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 1: aggressive is not really made for that player. You see 1152 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 1: so and and that's where you get the iffy calls 1153 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: because you can't really take out every aggressive player you need, 1154 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: like you need Draymond Green. So that's when sometimes you 1155 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: see the miscalls and you see things like that. But um, 1156 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 1: if you're like Stephen Cary and you get bumped foul, 1157 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: but he's a little dude I'm talking about for the 1158 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: fucking guys in the paint, the goons you're in the 1159 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 1: like there is no paint now, it's like, is there 1160 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,200 Speaker 1: back to the basket ship. The rules change and they 1161 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 1: made it more like overseas because what happened was when 1162 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 1: he was trying, when it was getting overseas players, they 1163 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 1: were never able to really compete over here, you know, 1164 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: because America's players just aggressive, you know, So they had 1165 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 1: to change the rules up to make it a more 1166 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 1: global game. Do you like it, like, are you a 1167 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: fan of it? I'm a fan because it seems like 1168 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of fun, but it's a lot of uh, 1169 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of I feel I feel like 1170 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 1: without Golden States exceptional, it is a little bit more 1171 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 1: one on one on one. But then back in the 1172 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 1: days there was even more one on one, right, but 1173 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 1: Charles Bogley backing down for five seconds, so the game 1174 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: is definitely the rules could have changed. I think I 1175 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,919 Speaker 1: think it changed for the better. You have a son 1176 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 1: who playing high school. You know, there's there's like a 1177 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 1: handful of you guys just said I know of in 1178 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Kenyan Shaquill, Uh you you're coaching, you said, 1179 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: you know you spent a lot of time with your kids. 1180 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: What do you make of Alonzo ball rookie season and 1181 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: the Big Bowler brand in terms of you know, his 1182 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,440 Speaker 1: father and just as a Laker like the outspoken is 1183 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 1: you know the disrespect of your guy Luke Walton that well, 1184 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 1: what I mean this, I mean it's sort of calmed down. Now, 1185 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: what do you make I mean to me? It's like, 1186 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 1: what is your take on the whole thing? Everything is great, 1187 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 1: but the exception of like, you know Lucas, Lucas cool people, 1188 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 1: he's he's he's a great coach, and sometimes things don't 1189 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 1: go your way. Luke coach Stephen Curry and Clay Thompson. 1190 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 1: And if Alonzo is that good, then you got a 1191 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 1: great coach, coach and your son, Um maybe made a mistake, 1192 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 1: Um whatever. Everybody makes mistakes. I I hear you. Everybody 1193 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 1: makes you mean what like in terms of Luke, if 1194 01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Luke happened to make a mistake Anzo, everybody makes mistakes. 1195 01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Lucas the most funnest coach to the coach where he's young, 1196 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: he's smart, and you know, you gotta be happy with that. 1197 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 1: And sometimes we got to accept things that we you know, 1198 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,200 Speaker 1: I can't control, like, maybe we're not playing well, so 1199 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 1: you can't blame somebody else because maybe you're not playing well. 1200 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Um with the brand, I loved it. I bought a 1201 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: pair of shoes. Did you get him? Yeah? I watched 1202 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 1: the game the other day. When I saw the Lakers played, 1203 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: I had the zoes on, which is cool. I think 1204 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: that's really cool. Um, first time big businessman. I don't 1205 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 1: know what he's doing done before that, but the first 1206 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: time family business is going pretty well. It's not perfect, 1207 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: like nobody is perfect, but I think the business is 1208 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 1: going well, and I think they're gonna be around for 1209 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: a long time. What do you think of him? Forget 1210 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: all the shenanigans, forget all the fucking hype, forget all 1211 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: the the var factor. What do you think of Alonso 1212 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 1: as a basketball player? And then follow up, what do 1213 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,160 Speaker 1: you think of the Lakers? Of where there it's been like, 1214 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean, and Kuzma has been like nobody was so 1215 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 1: good so first LIONSO. What do you think of him 1216 01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,040 Speaker 1: as just a basketball player? Alonso is one of the 1217 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 1: best basketball players in the n b A. I'm talking 1218 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,919 Speaker 1: about total basketball player. Let's talk about i Q. Let's 1219 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 1: talk about physicality. They say he don't got defense. I 1220 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: don't see that he has defense. And he's young, He's 1221 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,439 Speaker 1: gonna get better. He's not a lockdown metal world peace. 1222 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: He's only nineteam or twenty or something like that. I 1223 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: don't even know he's He's a really good basketball player, um, 1224 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that because of the I'm saying 1225 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 1: that because how he moves the ball and how he 1226 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 1: controls the game and how he sacrifices his own rhythm 1227 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 1: for other players. He don't take like lots of shots 1228 01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 1: because he's trying to get everybody involved, so he's he's 1229 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 1: actually making himself look bad and taking all the heat 1230 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 1: with it. Great player all around. What do you think 1231 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 1: of where they're at? Julius Randall? I like him. He's 1232 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's metal world peace. There's something about him. 1233 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: You know, he's a little bit more finessed, but you 1234 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 1: know he What do you think of him? What do 1235 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: you think of the rest of this team and in 1236 01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 1: the state of the Lakers, And give it to me 1237 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,800 Speaker 1: right now, because you fucking know this is your guy. 1238 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Is Lebron James coming to the Lakers. So it's a 1239 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: two fold question, what do you think of the rest 1240 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,320 Speaker 1: of the Lakers, and it's Lebron come coming to the Lakers? 1241 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 1: Give it to me. It's hard to say because I'm 1242 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 1: not I'm not in the front office, you know, what's 1243 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 1: going on something? Because if I was, if I was 1244 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 1: in the front office, because I couldn't say that probably, 1245 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,240 Speaker 1: But like, I don't speak to like, you know, the 1246 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: decision makers with the organization. You know, I only help 1247 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 1: um players who need help. I got you. Who want 1248 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 1: to have a little fun and practice, I got you. 1249 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not even drawing up plays. I'm a 1250 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 1: development coach, you know, which I love. But I love 1251 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: doing this. It's a lot of fun. What would it 1252 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: be if he came to Los Angeles? Well, it's hard 1253 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 1: to say. I mean, right now he's losing um Compared 1254 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 1: for his status. He's losing for other people. Would have 1255 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 1: been great for Lebron is bad. Um. So it's like, okay, 1256 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: do you bring him here to win, to mentor to 1257 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, um, can you put a 1258 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,959 Speaker 1: team around him? Or does he take a step back? 1259 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't know, is you know, um, I don't 1260 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 1: know what type of player he's gonna be next year, 1261 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna still be pretty good. But is he Is 1262 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 1: he the number one player? Uh? It's so many questions 1263 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: that I have, you know, um as a fan, you 1264 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 1: know of the Lakers, so many questions. I have you 1265 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 1: played against Kobe? Played with Kobe? This is an obligatory question, 1266 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,320 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get into again. It's like the top 1267 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 1: five hip hop artist, which is even more subjective because 1268 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 1: it's like your five could be totally different my five. 1269 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 1: It's just what you like. Kobe, Lebron, Michael, Jordan's if 1270 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 1: you had to pick one and their prime you obviously 1271 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: watched Michael. This is so hard. Is it is a 1272 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 1: stupid question? Is it dumb? Because it's it's a team sport. 1273 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,200 Speaker 1: I get asked that all the time. Is it stupid? 1274 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,720 Speaker 1: It's not stupid, It's amazing. It's an amazing question. I mean, 1275 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 1: these are three of the best, and now Lebron is 1276 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:06,599 Speaker 1: finally cemented his name with those guys, you know, because 1277 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 1: of what he's done, and I mean, you know, it's amazing. 1278 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 1: You know what's amazing. Nobody ever mentions Kevin Durant. They 1279 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 1: always say Lebron, Kobe or Jordan. Nobody ever says Kevin Durant. 1280 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,040 Speaker 1: Why no, I don't know. What do you think? Um? 1281 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: I think he's really good. But I think in the 1282 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,599 Speaker 1: last couple of years he's been having my heart. He's 1283 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 1: playing defense now, and I think with all of those 1284 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:40,599 Speaker 1: three guys they play defense. Kevin Durant just started playing defense. Um. 1285 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 1: On the wings, he was always capable, but never really 1286 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 1: bit damn. Now he's biting down. Um. First pick, we're 1287 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: in the park, queens Bridge. I'm picking Kobe Man over 1288 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 1: Michael and Lebron in their prime. I don't think I 1289 01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 1: have a choice. I've think get Kobe Man. I go 1290 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,080 Speaker 1: with Kobe. I play with Kobe. You know I'm going. 1291 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm definitely going with Kobe if I 1292 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 1: was in the park, honestly, or just let's just say 1293 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,080 Speaker 1: space jam two. They got a basketball court and we 1294 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 1: want to play some ball. Lebrons did Kobe. We just 1295 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,680 Speaker 1: want to get in shape somehow. I'm there, don't know 1296 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: how to funk got in the building. I'm picking Kobe. Okay, Um, 1297 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 1: all right, hip hop you put out two records, Uh, 1298 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,640 Speaker 1: your guy Linzo I was very outspoken when about the 1299 01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 1: disrespect over nasty Now that was great, Thank you for that, 1300 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Yeah, well what it goes on 1301 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 1: in Queensbrid You got ball players Roxane Shante, the movie 1302 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 1: coming out, Roxann Juice Crew. I don't think Linzo understand 1303 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 1: His dad understands, but his dad probably Linzo, you might 1304 01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 1: not know what you're talking about, but that's you know, 1305 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,920 Speaker 1: they right or die with each other. But I think 1306 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: he might have. He might have messed up. But what 1307 01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:01,719 Speaker 1: is it about Queens Bridge? Now? It's it's New York 1308 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,840 Speaker 1: is just as a whole, there's there's been a lot 1309 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,840 Speaker 1: of improvements. What is it about Queen's Bridge Projects that 1310 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 1: that you know through the seventies and eighties, through all 1311 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,639 Speaker 1: the dress and if you if you're not from there, 1312 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 1: you don't know. But like through all the dress created 1313 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 1: obviously there was so much pain, so much chaos, so 1314 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 1: much devastation, but they had, you know, diamonds in the 1315 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 1: rough like Chante, like nas, like yourself. What is it 1316 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 1: about Queen's Break projects? Uh, that you know create some 1317 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:36,679 Speaker 1: special people. Queen's Bridge is a different mindset man. Obviously 1318 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 1: you have great people everywhere. It's not just Queens was, 1319 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:44,840 Speaker 1: but as a whole, we were the drug hub from 1320 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 1: New York City. Explain it, you understand saying, so we 1321 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 1: are in prime real estate area, is the perfect place 1322 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 1: to transport. You know, you've got every subway system, you 1323 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 1: got bridges right there, bridges right there. So I mean, 1324 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 1: you're in the middle of this drug war. You know. 1325 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: It was times where there was so much money being 1326 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:13,519 Speaker 1: passed around in my neighborhood. You know, other people was 1327 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,960 Speaker 1: coming into my neighbor not even from the neighborhood, and 1328 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 1: then they're coming in the neighborhood and then they're they're 1329 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 1: causing havoc in our neighborhood. So then in our neighborhood, 1330 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 1: we had a couple of people who stood up to 1331 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 1: whoever came into the neighborhood. You know. Um, So that's 1332 01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: the type of neighborhood we grew up. It was. It 1333 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:38,160 Speaker 1: was it was wild, you know, and violent. It was violent. 1334 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: It was fun, but it was definitely like, you know, 1335 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 1: somebody could definitely die today. Like that was just part 1336 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: of what was going on at the time in New York. 1337 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 1: A lot of times parts of Queens. I've seen some 1338 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 1: of one of my friends who was a very good 1339 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 1: students to get AIDS on every test. His name was 1340 01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 1: Bantu get aids on every test from kindergarten until eighth grade. 1341 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,160 Speaker 1: And it's so easy. He could have been a math 1342 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,720 Speaker 1: whatever he wanted to be. And when I went to 1343 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 1: high school and I was saying him on the street, 1344 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, what you're doing. You're going to school, 1345 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 1: You're like smarter than me. I mean, I'm in the 1346 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 1: Catholic school. And he's like, nah, I'm just chilling. So 1347 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,360 Speaker 1: I get back, I'm in college. I'm like, band, like 1348 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 1: what you're doing? Like he was, who while you're not 1349 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 1: in school, while you're not working for Morgan Stanley, you 1350 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 1: understand that he was in the streets. He looked street life, 1351 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,720 Speaker 1: you know. And we play basketball together to the live 1352 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,599 Speaker 1: great things together, you know, um and and that's just 1353 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,559 Speaker 1: what that's what it is, you know. And I think 1354 01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 1: that's what makes Queensbridge Queensbridge. Unfortunately, like those type of things. 1355 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,040 Speaker 1: Do you still go out there? Do you saw any 1356 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,639 Speaker 1: any any ties to Queensbridge? I mean I got ties 1357 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:52,760 Speaker 1: because you know, when I made it to the NBA. Sometimes, yeah, 1358 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,240 Speaker 1: I had a lot of friends in Queensbridge, and you know, 1359 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,599 Speaker 1: I stuck around, right. I don't need to go back ever, 1360 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 1: I don't go back much, but I felt like I 1361 01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,680 Speaker 1: put my work in already. I got you, you know, 1362 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't don't have nothing else to prove but being positive. 1363 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 1: And I talked to people alive from Queens. How about 1364 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,840 Speaker 1: some of these kids out there? Um hip hop obligatory. 1365 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 1: I asked you this once before you and I I'm 1366 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 1: gonna see if you answered the same because it could 1367 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:24,960 Speaker 1: change top five rappers, your favorites. Yeah, I love this question. 1368 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:29,280 Speaker 1: Cannabis number one, that same question, and I was like, cannabis, 1369 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: Like I get cannabis is why cannabis? That's an obscure 1370 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,679 Speaker 1: cannabis had Cannabis is like, let's say one hit wonder, 1371 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 1: he would he be mad at this? I'm sorry, Cannabis. 1372 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,599 Speaker 1: Let's just say he's the one hit wonder. Let's just 1373 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,719 Speaker 1: say he had does Steve curse seventy three wins season? 1374 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 1: You can't discount that Cannabis is one of the best 1375 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,599 Speaker 1: rappers to ever live. When he was at his peak, 1376 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,759 Speaker 1: it was things that he was saying that nobody ever said. 1377 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,800 Speaker 1: And it wasn't he had a little gaze things, but 1378 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,719 Speaker 1: it wasn't like y'are a'most shoot And it was smart. Okay, 1379 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Eminem smart, he was dope number give me, give me 1380 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 1: your other ones, obligatory top five, so that cannabis number one. 1381 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Cannabis can change change eminem yep I go eminem Um, 1382 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go with um. This guy named Juice 1383 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,360 Speaker 1: from Chicago who would only rapper to beat eminem in 1384 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,720 Speaker 1: the battle. Okay, so it's not it's not that I'm 1385 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,640 Speaker 1: on that, but he's he's a great rapper with a 1386 01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 1: great album. Nobody really listens to him. Okay, you know, 1387 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,080 Speaker 1: but he's a great rapper. Um, you got him? Um 1388 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: rack him? Yes, come in l a Eric being Rock 1389 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 1: Kim May we should go to the show. We might 1390 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,719 Speaker 1: have to go to that show, Eric Being Rock Kim show. 1391 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 1: We actually need to go to that. I'm gonna get 1392 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 1: it hooked up. That's I'm going. I'm going, We're going, 1393 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,519 Speaker 1: We're going to that ship and then I'm gonna go 1394 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 1: with I'm gonna go with um. It's hard not to 1395 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,080 Speaker 1: go with nas He's nasa Is Like. I was very 1396 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 1: inspired by Nasa as as a kid. Did you see 1397 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 1: him growing up? I saw him one time when I 1398 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,960 Speaker 1: was thirteen for the first time him. But I always 1399 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 1: knew that he's from the neighborhood. And then because he 1400 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,560 Speaker 1: was older and he was on the other side of 1401 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 1: the project, he's on the forty buster side. I was on, 1402 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 1: you know, the other side. I got you and people. 1403 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge is fucking huge, big. You don't just if 1404 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,599 Speaker 1: you're on your block, you probably go in one other 1405 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,479 Speaker 1: block to the store. You know, that's about it. And 1406 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,439 Speaker 1: then you don't really want to go somewhere else, but 1407 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,760 Speaker 1: you not want it. You might get your ass beat 1408 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 1: right for some apparent reason, depending you know, and your 1409 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:33,559 Speaker 1: two records My World, my other five is tragedy. Sorry, 1410 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 1: that's the fifth. Your Queen's all right, Your queen's tragedy 1411 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,880 Speaker 1: ain't no joke. Your queen's bias. I'm sorry. The nine, 1412 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,880 Speaker 1: but all right, you were in there, you had some 1413 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,720 Speaker 1: people on your records. Was the most impressive. When you 1414 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,040 Speaker 1: were in the studio, you were like this motherfucker's talented, 1415 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,400 Speaker 1: Like this is like this guy is good. Yeah. When 1416 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 1: I was in the studio doing My World, we had 1417 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,920 Speaker 1: um capone was very very good. Rapp up my cousin, Actually, 1418 01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: is that your cousin? Yeah, I didn't know that third cousin, 1419 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:08,560 Speaker 1: Um um so copon was very impressive nature it was 1420 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 1: on it got on the record, you know, and you 1421 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 1: can see like the skills and like just how like 1422 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,680 Speaker 1: because just like basketball, like you could just this is 1423 01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,280 Speaker 1: what they do. This is what they do. You know. 1424 01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 1: They were real rappers, you know, lyricists and talking about 1425 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 1: their life. I wish, I wish we could have done 1426 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 1: more projects. Um the music business at that time wasn't 1427 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 1: for me. I didn't really understand how to scale it. 1428 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,840 Speaker 1: I got you, but we had a really good team. 1429 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,439 Speaker 1: We always had a good team. Cui the music, you know, 1430 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 1: but nobody really understood scaling, not having major overhead. If 1431 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 1: you bring ten guys on a on a rap show, 1432 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to market your next record. 1433 01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 1: The business something. It's like making money and saving money 1434 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 1: and not spending money. Okay, now now keep it funky. 1435 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,200 Speaker 1: You love hip hop. You're younger, I mean, you're older 1436 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 1: than these dudes. We got your guy Alonzo, we got 1437 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 1: a man Chumpert, we got Dre, Dre Drummond. We got 1438 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 1: I heard Kyrie Irving, That's what I heard. I heard 1439 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 1: he spits. We got my man up who out of 1440 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,880 Speaker 1: all these dudes in the NBA now currently keep it funky. 1441 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 1: Your o G. You should stop fucking around with music altogether. Well, 1442 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 1: keep it funky. This is in basketball, it's not personally yo, 1443 01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,360 Speaker 1: keep it funky everybody. Everybody that's wrapping now, I like 1444 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 1: Brandon bassa, um, your man, I still have a problem 1445 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 1: with anybody. So he got the new era type of music. 1446 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,920 Speaker 1: I literally don't have a problem with anybody. I haven't heard. 1447 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,040 Speaker 1: Would you like, I haven't heard anything. I'm not about 1448 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 1: a wrapper. I can't battle. Every time somebody asked me 1449 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,360 Speaker 1: to freestyle, I'm like listening. Right, that's a different skill set. 1450 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,120 Speaker 1: It's just not what I do. I got you. I 1451 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 1: will never be caught freestyle and on breakfast club anywhere. 1452 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 1: I can't free spitting a quick thirty two. My best 1453 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 1: thing I have is I had one good record and 1454 01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,880 Speaker 1: then my hooks is pretty tight. My bars is you know, 1455 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: they're kind of reil, but consistently. I don't do a 1456 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 1: lot a lot of good verses. I got you hooks. 1457 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 1: I love I got you. I think my hooks is 1458 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,800 Speaker 1: pretty tight. All right, So you're you're you're keeping it bias. 1459 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,240 Speaker 1: That's fair. My final question, final question, all right, based 1460 01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,679 Speaker 1: on injury. Okay, well, hopefully everybody stays healthy, hopefully Tyler 1461 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,000 Speaker 1: comes back. I don't want anybody, you know, we want 1462 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 1: everybody's health to be good. Who's winning the NBA Championship 1463 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,759 Speaker 1: based on everything we know right now, on everybody who's 1464 01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 1: healthy or not healthy right now, Who's win the championship? 1465 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,200 Speaker 1: Who are the two teams at the end of the road? Um, 1466 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,519 Speaker 1: the final team would be Golden State. They're gonna win, 1467 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,720 Speaker 1: win the whole thing verse, it's Cleveland gonna make it 1468 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,560 Speaker 1: to the finals. I can't see Cleveland going to the 1469 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:49,559 Speaker 1: finals because consistently they've been losing. Now I am out 1470 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 1: the loop with basketball mentally, emotionally, because I know for 1471 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,599 Speaker 1: a fact if you stick with it, you get better 1472 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you can get there nixt when they 1473 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 1: got there as a c. So yeah, I'm counting out Cleveland. 1474 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,160 Speaker 1: But that's because I'm like not focused on the game. 1475 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,040 Speaker 1: Like I'm not in the game. You're not. I'm not 1476 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 1: in the game. In terms of paying attention as a fan, 1477 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 1: I'm not payingting as a fan intil the process. I 1478 01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,760 Speaker 1: got you. I'm more like developing guys. I got you. 1479 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm sticking. That's where I'm at. So right now, I 1480 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,680 Speaker 1: just I'm going. I'm just cold, like I see I 1481 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 1: see Cleveland going. If they beat Toronto or Boston, that's 1482 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,920 Speaker 1: really embarrassing to Toronto or Boston because Cleveland is not 1483 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 1: playing well. They should not beat you. If you're you're coaching, 1484 01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,280 Speaker 1: you're giving Cleveland or Boston or any fucking body how 1485 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,679 Speaker 1: the fund Is there a way to stop Lebron James. 1486 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,679 Speaker 1: Um at this point where these skill set his confidence, 1487 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 1: he's so relaxed. You cannot stop Lebron James. If you can, 1488 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:52,120 Speaker 1: don't try it. I can't see it happening. I can't 1489 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 1: see that. He just has all the answers at this point, right. 1490 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, Okay, as much as you want 1491 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,800 Speaker 1: to stop Lebron James, that's as much as he wants 1492 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:06,240 Speaker 1: to kill you on the other side. So okay, go 1493 01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: try it. Good luck of good luck? All right? Listen, 1494 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 1: met up, Listen, I appreciate you. Come rock with me 1495 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 1: on the Iron Wrap Stereo Eric being rock Cam. I'm 1496 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 1: getting the ticket. We're going to take a picture posting 1497 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,639 Speaker 1: on Instagram so everybody know we're going to that because 1498 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 1: because you never know when that's not gonna when that's 1499 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna happen. The god m see Eric beat doing the 1500 01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 1: thing in l A Metal World Peace, Yo, The Panda's 1501 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,320 Speaker 1: Friend clothing. The ship looks comfortable, it's fun. And you 1502 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,240 Speaker 1: know what we just we made some money and now 1503 01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 1: we're throwing a basketball game at Uni High School with 1504 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,760 Speaker 1: the Board of Education but l a City Work Economic 1505 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:52,320 Speaker 1: Development Department, UM, and we're giving back. That's what the 1506 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,360 Speaker 1: green is about. All right, keep doing your thing. I 1507 01:21:54,400 --> 01:22:03,760 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Rock with me absolutely, man, all right, what 1508 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:05,720 Speaker 1: can I Did I tell you? Did I tell you? 1509 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,519 Speaker 1: We came, we saw, we conquered. Meta, thank you for 1510 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 1: rocking on the Iron Rapports Stereo podcast. The Panda's Friend 1511 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 1: Queen's Bridge QB. I would love to have him back 1512 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:19,920 Speaker 1: on the show. I love this dude, Metal World Peace. 1513 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,759 Speaker 1: Thank you for rocking on the Iron Rapports Stereo podcast. 1514 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 1: G Moody last names with duty. I wish you a healthy, 1515 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 1: speedy recovery after your first few days of training. Hold 1516 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 1: your head, stay in that ice path, Duke uh Meta, 1517 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,800 Speaker 1: thank you for rocking on the show. What can I say? 1518 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,479 Speaker 1: Miles Jordan's take us out of here with something funky, 1519 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,720 Speaker 1: Take us out of here with a smacker. As I 1520 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 1: told you, yo, I highly recommend, I have no agenda. 1521 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,879 Speaker 1: I highly recommend the Netflix documentary series Wild Wild Country. 1522 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,759 Speaker 1: Got to sit down talk to these directors. Dope ass interview, 1523 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,680 Speaker 1: very informative, not just about that movie, about the process, 1524 01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,800 Speaker 1: the ground and pound, the grind of what it takes 1525 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,320 Speaker 1: to make a documentary. That's gonna be on the next podcast. 1526 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,599 Speaker 1: My name is Michael Rapport a k A the Greno Man, 1527 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Dingo a K A Bird, a k A White, Mike 1528 01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,760 Speaker 1: a K. Mr White, Folk G. Moody. Last name rhymes 1529 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 1: with duty. The Iron Rapports stereo podcast Miles Jordan take 1530 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,400 Speaker 1: us out of here with something special. Let's go together 1531 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:42,679 Speaker 1: together Together,