1 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: And Kevin Barrall with my co host Isaac Zouit, and 2 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: we have a very special guest, one that many Marlins 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: fans know, Craig Mish of Sports Grid. Craig, how are you? 4 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: We are very very excited to have if you want 5 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: to talk about the Marlins that are over five hundred? 6 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: Hi, Kevin Barroll, how are you. 7 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: I'm good, Isaac, Good to see you, you too, Craig. 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: Things are looking small for this team. 9 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: Uh, definitely a better start than I would have anticipated 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 2: after seeing the first four games. So yeah, I mean 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: game over five hundred. I don't think anybody should be 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: complaining at this point. We'll find a way, but at 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: this point, I don't there's not a lot to complain about. 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get into that, but there are some things. 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: But you know, to me, a pretty good start all 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: things considered. 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this what you expected to see from 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: the team, Craig. I mean we talk about the off season, 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: what they did to really acquire players. Cueto, Segura, you 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: made a couple you made a trade to get Luisa 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Rise on this team, a couple other deals here and there. Chargua, 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: who'd unfortunately not injured, is this what you really expected 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: of the Marlins, you know, I would say, almost twenty 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: games into the season. 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I look at the end of 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: the season, you know, I still maintain the same thing. 27 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: I think, either they're going to continue what they're doing here, 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: and some of it does feel a little magical, some 29 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: of it does feel a little lucky, and I'm just 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: being honest, but at this rate, they would finish several 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: games over five hundred, which would be a pretty massive 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: improvement over last year. So if that continues, that's pretty 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: much what I thought, or my opposite take was it 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: would just be a disastrous type season. I just didn't 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: I still don't just see them as eighty one and 36 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: eighty one. I know that's kind of where it is 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: right now, but I just don't feel that way. I 38 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: feel like that things would change significantly for the better 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: or they would be where they were a year ago. 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: But as of right now, they're exactly where I guess 41 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: most would project them to be, whichould be a little 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: bit above five hundred. But look, I personally don't think 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: that the way that they have been winning is sustainable. 44 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: But I think what's important to note is that the 45 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: last few years, everybody was like making all these excuses 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: about injuries and one run games and not really just 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: you know, attaching yourself to the record of the team. 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: This year, no one's making any excuses, no one's talking 49 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: about anyone run games, and it's just like, oh, this 50 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 2: is where they're supposed to be. Well this year they're 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: on the luckier side. And that's just what sports is. 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: You accept what your record is and you don't make excuses. 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: I saw today where they run differential is so bad, 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: Who cares? That's what you should have been saying last 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: year too, the run differential is so good, Who cares? 56 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 2: It doesn't make a difference. At the end of the year, 57 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: no one remembers what the run differential is. So I mean, 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: I think definitely there's some encouraging signs thus far, without 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: a doubt to say that they haven't been a little fortunate. 60 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: I think most people, if you cornered them, would say, yeah, 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: you know, we've been a little lucky in a few 62 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: of these games too, which is fine to Waco's yeah, 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: I would agree. 64 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 4: And one of the things that hasn't been as fortunate, 65 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: I think even looks worse than he did last year 66 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: is obviously La Garcia. I got to ask you minutes 67 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: in huh yeah, if you wouldn't be doing jobs if 68 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: you don't ask you this, what are Miami's options here? 69 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 4: You reported a few months ago that you would have 70 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: a couple of months if not his playing time would diminish. 71 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: Is a trade even an option? What options do they have? 72 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 4: And what do you think they will do? Because this 73 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: is they've got a. 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: Couple of years of a lot of money left on 75 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: this guy. 76 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think with a look, I don't 77 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: know what the next week or two is going to be. 78 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: I wouldn't anticipate anything happening like on this road trip 79 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: or anything like that. But you know, you do have 80 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: to ask yourself again, with them winning all these one 81 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: run games, we know they're going to be in a 82 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: lot of tight games all season long. We know that 83 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: there are going to be times where they're offensively challenged, 84 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: and you wonder to yourself, what would just an average 85 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: player look like in the roster, because he has been 86 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: a below average player now going on a year and 87 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: a month too too struck him out swinging, went with 88 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: the slider. Had a lot of conversations about this and 89 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: continue to have a lot of conversations about it. I 90 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: think the time is running out, I do. I think. 91 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: I don't think it's today, but I think there comes 92 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: a point where you just basically have to just take 93 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 2: your l on this if this continues and sort of 94 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: move on. You know, I could still see him having 95 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: a good career elsewhere. It just hasn't worked for him 96 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: here at all. And with with the new coaching staff 97 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 2: and a new hitting coach, you would have thought to yourself, oh, okay, 98 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: maybe there's a new lease on a career. I personally 99 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: haven't seen it, and we are seeing it with Solaire, 100 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: So really, what is the difference here? I mean, I mean, 101 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: you obviously Garcia got more money than Jorge Solaire and 102 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: he hasn't been able to turn it around. Soilaire looks 103 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: like exactly who we thought he was going to be 104 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: a year ago. So you know, I don't have a 105 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: clear answer on the timetable here, but there there definitely 106 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: is I would say organizational frustration. There's no question about 107 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: it at this point, and this just cannot go on forever. 108 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: The only thing that I would add to the conversation 109 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: is this, it's not like the Marlins are so blessed 110 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: with five or six easily replaceable players sitting in the 111 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: minor leagues that would guarantee to be better. Like anyone 112 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: who's calling for all those guys, you really don't know. 113 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: And so if they were just to cut the cord, 114 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: let's say in May at some point, and they were 115 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: to call up, let you know, Peyton Burdick, and Peyton 116 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: Burdick was to struggle, let's say that would happen. I mean, 117 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: then what then? You know? Who do you turn to 118 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 2: at that point? It's just not an easy thing because 119 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: it's not like they have just so many easy options 120 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: to replace him with. I think that's part of the 121 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: conversation too. Who do you know is going to be 122 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: able to replace him and be much better? Can anybody 123 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 2: replace him and be better? Yes, Look, he's a below 124 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: average player. His war is negative again this year. But 125 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: you can't guarantee me that Peytonburg's gonna come up and mash. 126 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: You cannot guarantee me that putting Jesus Sanchez in a 127 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: line of every day is gonna match. He didn't do 128 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: it last year either, So I think that's part of 129 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: what they're hanging on to. 130 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: Also, well, I'm sure you saw this morning. We're recording this. 131 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 4: On April twentieth, Madison Bumgarner was designated for a Simon. 132 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 4: So what you're saying is it is possible that they 133 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 4: would be willing to eat the rest of the money. 134 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 4: And before we get to that, what a swap of 135 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 4: these two players? Be telling me that they'd be interested 136 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 4: in of bumguard? 137 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: You mean, yeah, no, I haven't heard that, so I 138 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: don't think so. But maybe, just like initially, my thought 139 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: was is that if it didn't go well at the beginning, 140 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: that they would bench abby. But the more I'm sort 141 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: of thinking about it here, I just don't think that 142 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: would be good for anybody. I don't think it would 143 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: be the team good for the team, but I don't 144 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: think it'd be good for him. It'll just be delaying 145 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: the inevitable. So if they do get to that point, 146 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: I just think it's a wash. I know, I threw 147 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: out yesterday the Ozuna idea where short term would cost 148 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: them more money because Ozoom is making more money than AVI, 149 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: but long term would would save them some money too. 150 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: You know, all these things, I think we're in play, 151 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: but I think the easiest outcome that I see playing 152 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: out is just discontinues and a month from now maybe less. 153 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, they just decide, hey, look it's it's 154 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: just better that we cut bait. But I think it's 155 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit longer before they make that call. 156 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: But I understand everybody's frustration. We are all watching the 157 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: same thing every day. 158 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Do you think he could like they just eat up 159 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: the money in d FAM? 160 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, not now, But yeah, I don't see any other option. 161 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: I just I don't I don't see any you know, 162 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: viable option for it. What what would what would one be? 163 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: You'd have to present me with one. 164 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to ask you about another outfield. 165 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: You mentioned a couple of outfielders they have on this team. 166 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: The other one, say Zoos Sanchez, who has also struggled 167 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: big time this season and also last season. But you know, 168 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: with less playing time this year because of Brian de 169 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: la Cruz other guys, you know, what's what's the leash for? 170 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: You know, how much longer does he have to prove 171 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: success on the Marlins? And you know, with Peyton Burdick 172 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: in the minor league, is doing what he's doing right now? 173 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Kind of you know, is he putting some type of 174 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: pressure for for Miami to, you know, bring him up 175 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: at some point. This guy's leading the International League in homers, 176 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: he's getting on base, he's doing everything he needs to 177 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: do to get in the minor leagues. And Burdick also 178 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: had a nice spring training too, even yeah, I could 179 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: argue better than Sanchez. 180 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, with with Wendell being out, if for if for 181 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: some reason, they were to let's just say DFA or 182 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: again trade Jesus Sanchez in some way, you know, Kevin, 183 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: they would have absolutely no left handed hitters to bring 184 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: in at any point of any Major League Baseball game. 185 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: And that is just that is why Jesus Sanchez is 186 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: on the Miami Marlins. I don't think if Hazu Sanchez 187 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: was right handed, I do not think he would be 188 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: on the Marlins anymore. But they have no choice whatsoever. 189 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: And I think what you've seen, at least in the 190 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: early part of the season, maybe more so with with 191 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: Skip Schumacher than with Don Manneley, is Skip is making 192 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 2: a lot of in game changes in the s seventh 193 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 2: and the eighth and the ninth, and when he wants 194 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: to go to the bench against you know, a right 195 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 2: handed pitcher. Generally speaking, you're gonna want to put a 196 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: left handed batter up there. Even though the Giants were 197 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: miserable all week offensively, and Arizona, by the way, they 198 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: weren't that great either, Like they had all these different 199 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: options to bring in in the lefty righty splits and 200 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: and the Marlins. Just if they don't have any lefties, 201 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: Let's just be honest, they don't. They don't have anyone. 202 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: Now Wendell comes back, then maybe you say, okay, well 203 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: Wendo's not Maybe they would say Wendo's not our starter anymore. 204 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: He's our guy that we bring into the seventh, eighth, 205 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: and ninth to hit from the left side. And you know, 206 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: him and Birdie just swapped spots every once in a while, 207 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: Like maybe that would be a better option. But as 208 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: long as Wendell is out and they're facing Camillo do 209 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: ball like in the ninth inn, or you know, they're 210 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: facing some you know, manual class a, like who's going 211 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: to hit this guy? Like you need a lefty to 212 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: come in the game, And so they're they're going to 213 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have to go outside the organization 214 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 2: and find somebody at some point I can't see this continuing. 215 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: You know, the Blue Jays were an excellent team over 216 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. I think the reason the 217 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: Blue Jays didn't go as far as they had they 218 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 2: had does that all right handed hitters man't have any lefties, 219 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: and that's why they traded to the Ostar Hernandez to 220 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: get more lefty. I think the Marlins have to get 221 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: more lefty, a little bit more. I mean jazz ariahs Wendel, Right, 222 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: am I missing? Is there someone else? I'm missing? 223 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: Sands cheap? But sanchezs you had lately. Well, you're speaking 224 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 3: of going out of the organization. 225 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 4: You saw Trevor Rodgers went all the forum strain and 226 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: you tutored out that you expect them to go on 227 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 4: the I l if that's the case, are they going 228 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 4: to look outside the organization to fill in that slot again? 229 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 3: Are they gonna stay in house? 230 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 231 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: I mean I didn't. I didn't even check, by the way, 232 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: if he had an m L right, and I'm assuming 233 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 2: he did, I didn't check on it. I think if 234 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: I think, if it was very serious, I probably wouldn't 235 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: know already. So it's my guess. I don't know for sure. 236 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: But I think if it was serious, I'd get an 237 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: alert somehow, But us that's there's an option there. But 238 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: it does seem to me that I think Hoeing is 239 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: probably the next man up. It does feel like that, 240 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: So I think he's probably I would guess he's probably 241 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: going to get the start. Look the other thing that 242 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: they could do and and I and I think that 243 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: we should talk about this a little bit more, is 244 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: that the non traditional route to this. I mean, I 245 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I don't know if he's good or not. 246 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but this guy, George Soriano's look 247 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: really good and he is making a good impression. He 248 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: has made a good impression in history. And couple k 249 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 2: spot of the night come on and maybe it's an opener, 250 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's okre Oker did that a little bit. 251 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: Maybe Ochre comes back, he pitches the first Toreano pitches two, three, four. 252 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: Maybe that, I mean, I can't believe doing openers here 253 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: this early, but if but maybe that's the route that 254 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: they that they choose to go. I don't know, they've 255 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: been adverse to it a little bit in the past, 256 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: but maybe maybe that's something that they would consider because 257 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't know how good Hiway's gonna be. His his 258 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: stuff is ticked up apparently, but behind him, you just 259 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: really don't have anything, you know, so you know, I 260 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, maybe outside maybe they signed Bumpguarner, who knows. Maybe. 261 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Do you think there's any chance they call it year 262 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: sooner rather than you know? 263 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: What? 264 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: Is? 265 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: No? 266 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: That next player I wanted to ask to ask you 267 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: about is Jean Sigura, who they signed to UH. I 268 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: think it was a two year deal with an option. 269 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: He struggled. 270 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just no other way to say. Times 271 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: a third base. He doesn't look even too sharp. Do 272 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: you do you have any concern about Jean Sigura right now? 273 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: And do you think that the organization may have some 274 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: type of struggle with a guy who you know, really 275 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: should be playing second base at his age now, at 276 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: his point in his career, And do you think there's 277 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: any alternatives that they can look at, you know, outside 278 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: of gin Sigura if he continues to struggle. 279 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: Is yeah, I feel like it's too early for that. 280 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: I think he's got a long track record of success 281 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 2: and my guess is at some point he'll start to 282 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: get it going. From looking at his swings, it does 283 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: seem like he is trying too hard. I don't know 284 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: if that's accurate or not, but it sort of feels 285 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: like that watching it defensively, I don't think that you're 286 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: gonna be able to change who he is. Seemed a 287 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: little bit better at third over the last few games 288 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: than he did over the first few, But I think 289 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: we got to give that one a little bit more time. 290 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: But who knows. I mean, look, we have seen the 291 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: way that free agency has gone for the Marlins. The 292 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: trades have certainly looked a lot better than free agency. 293 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 2: The trades have looked really good as a matter of fact. 294 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: But the free agents, when they get here, for whatever reason, 295 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn't go well. And Sigura could be another one. 296 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: I don't know, but too early, I think on him, 297 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: I would I would pause that. 298 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned a rise earlier, Craig. You know, we 299 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: do know they extended Sandiel Contra. In my opinion, they 300 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 4: have three candidates for another extension, Louise, Arias, Hayeses Luzardo. 301 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 4: Have they had conversations with any of these guys regarding 302 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: a contract extension. 303 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: Not to my knowledge, No, not to my knowledge and 304 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: again the reason why they look I think at a 305 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: trade deadline or at an off season, I still think 306 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: Pablo Lopez is more valuable in terms of a trade 307 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: piece than Louis ariaz Is. It's my opinion, and so 308 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: I think they recognize that, which is why they got 309 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: the extra year of Arias. So is it something they 310 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: can attack in the off season. Absolutely, But you know, 311 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: you know, guys, two more years of control in addition 312 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,479 Speaker 2: to the one that he's playing with now. I just personally, 313 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I know, you know, fans are gonna hate this, 314 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: but I don't see what the sense of urgency at 315 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: this minute would be to do that. My biggest concern 316 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 2: for Arias is that finger. Like I mean, I think 317 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: he needs a break for like a game or two, 318 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: and every time he swings the bat he looks like 319 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: he's hurt. I mean, hopefully that day off will do 320 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: him some good. But I think even though he is 321 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: getting some hits in the interim since that, since that injury, 322 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: it has looked tough for me. So hopefully he can 323 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: get healthy because they're gonna need him. 324 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: Just to quickly follow up Isaac's question night, he meant 325 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: the only other extension. Guy I want to possibly mention 326 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: is Cooper. I know that he's an All Star last year, 327 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: he's looked good this year. I mean, this team organizationally 328 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: does not have much first pace step. The next guy 329 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: up would be in the minor leagues would be Troy Johnson, 330 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: and after that you're looking even lower in the minor 331 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: league system. So, right, is that someone that Miami's looked 332 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: into possibly extending. 333 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: No, no, no, But but that's it's an interesting topic 334 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: and conversation that I've had also, So I think Cooper 335 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: because in my opinion, Cooper is a candidate for a 336 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: qualifying offer. That's the way that I look at this. 337 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: I think he's the candidate for they run him out 338 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: the whole year and then at the end of the 339 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: season they offer him the qualifying offer, which is going 340 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: to be massive. But I personally don't think the Marlins 341 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: will have any choice if he has this year he's 342 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: having because clearly, to me, if so Laire is doing 343 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: what he is doing, I don't think he's gonna get megabucks, 344 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: but he's gonna get a lot more than nine million 345 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: dollars next year. He's gonna get two for twenty or 346 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: three for thirty or two for sixteen. I mean, Adam Duval, 347 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: who I love so much, didn't even play a lit 348 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: basically last year and got like fourteen million dollars. So 349 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: so Laire is gone. So Laire is gonna leave I 350 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: think at the end of the year. And if that's 351 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: the case, like you really, I mean offensively, you don't 352 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: have a lot left now, long way to go, guys. 353 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: It's only April twentieth and we're talking about next year. 354 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: But that would be my prediction if I had to 355 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: guess right now, Marlins don't offer him any long term deal. 356 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: They offer him the qualifying offer, and then Coop would 357 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: have to make that decision at that point to say, hey, look, 358 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: do do I do this? Do I stay here for 359 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: another year make almost twenty million? If that's the rout 360 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: they go, I mean, he would maybe be a candidate 361 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: to accept the qualifying offer two, I think, So that 362 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: would be the direction that I would assume. Now end 363 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: talk to me in August. You know, I don't know 364 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: what the record is at that point. If I'm saying, 365 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: if their record is a game over five hundred in August, 366 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 2: then obviously they're gonna keep Coop and they're gonna run 367 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: through the season. But if this is, if the season 368 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: gets flipped on its head somehow, it would be irresponsible 369 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: not to trade Cooper somewhere else and you know, to 370 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: get something back because he would be a free agent 371 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 2: at the end of the year. But that's my guess. 372 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: Don't know, this is just pure speculation on my part 373 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: with that. 374 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 4: And if they were to offer Coop the Caloughing offer 375 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: and he rejected that, they get the draft pick correct, 376 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: Is that how that right? 377 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 2: Right? It's still draft pick compensation, So I think it's 378 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: that would be a win win for everyone. And some 379 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: players do accept qualifying offers, so yeah, so I some 380 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: some do. In fact, the one that did, I think 381 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: is actually the perfect fit for the Marlins moving forward 382 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 2: if the season continues to go on. I think that 383 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: if the I thought, guys, the Giants looked like one 384 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 2: of the worst teams in baseball. I don't know about you, 385 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: but even with getting Mitch Hannicker back and getting Michael 386 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: Confordo back, I don't know, they they looked really, really bad. 387 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 2: And I would Jock Peterson look in the Marlins outfield 388 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: for the final few months of the season left handed hitter, 389 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: maybe a little platooning with Brian de Lacruz. Funny guy, 390 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: good guy, good atmosphere, clubhouse guy. So to me, I'm 391 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: gonna keep my eye on that one. No conversations or 392 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: anything like that, but I'm starting to think, like guy 393 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: could play center, I could play left left handed bat. 394 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: You know, it feels like a good. 395 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: Fit, makes a lot of sense. And you mentioned center field. 396 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: The last extension candidate we didn't get to it was 397 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: Jessison Junior. 398 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: Internally. How the Marlins. 399 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: Graded his transition out there so far, and what do 400 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: they have they reached out to him at all? 401 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: No, No, they know, they know it's been a work 402 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: in progress with the defense, but it's looked better over 403 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: the last few days for sure. Uh yeah. And and 404 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: offensively's look better too, you know, he looked better over 405 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: the last few days. Maybe you know, these these lineup 406 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: changes seem to have worked a lot with with what 407 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: Skip is done. So you know, I I think, you know, 408 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: maybe honestly, when you think about it, the highest grade 409 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: we could give to anything in the first few weeks 410 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: of the season is maybe the manager right, Like I mean, 411 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: this mattered, And again it could be some luck involved here, 412 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: but it's like the guy does this, it works. The 413 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: guy does this, it works. A guy does this, it works. 414 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: It's like, let's bring in this bullpen guy, this bullpen 415 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: guy that it's just what other than smelts are getting 416 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: blown up. Everything has been perfect. It really has looked 417 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: that way to at least to me. 418 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, think, yeah, the way he's using brazabon, I couldn't 419 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: agree more brazabon. 420 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: Scott He's got Scott's and not. 421 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: Need How in the heck did he get Scott good? 422 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: I mean, that's obviously mel but but again, you know, 423 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: putting so Laire in the pinching spot and putting the 424 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: Rise in the pinching spot, and it's like moving Jazz down. 425 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, it just it seems, at least from 426 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: my view, that's that's been a change. Now Again, I 427 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: don't want to understate that there's been some serious luck 428 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: involved in the Marlins ten and nine record thus far, 429 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: which is which which again you could say they had 430 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: bad luck last year and that's fine too. So I 431 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: don't think that this way that they're going about it 432 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: is sustainable. But they said that in two thousand and 433 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: three and Jack McKeon would go to the mound and 434 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: he'd make a change, or he'd put a guy in 435 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: the lineup. He'd be like, why is he playing this guy? 436 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: And the guy would hit two home runs. It was incredible. 437 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: So sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. Yeah, 438 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: all right. 439 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 4: He actually did push down Avi Garcia all the way 440 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 4: down in the seven hole, which I think was one 441 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 4: of the first times in. 442 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: His Marlin ten year Gray. 443 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: We also put a tweet out advertising the year coming on, 444 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 4: and one of the more common questions we had for 445 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: you was about dj s Philip. Obviously, it's no secret 446 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: that Miami has had trouble drafting players. Whether you blame 447 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: it on the development or the choosing of the players, 448 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 4: I blame it more on the drafting. Are they happy 449 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 4: with d Jays Phillip? Is he also sort of on 450 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 4: his last year of proving that, hey, they he can 451 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: nail a first rounder because so far from my county 452 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 4: is over four? 453 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so Jacob Barry. The returns have not been 454 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: great early, although he did look much better in the 455 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: spring on the backfields than he did in the games. 456 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: Either way, So I mean, I'm so hesitant to throw 457 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: like a negative on that. You know, the draft pick 458 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: of JJ Bleda, It's hard for me to say. I've 459 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: had different conversations about him. I mean a part of 460 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: this is is that I think that he would have 461 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 2: been taken the pick after by whoever took him. So 462 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean, was that just a bad pick in general, 463 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: or is it something on the player? I don't know. 464 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: In terms of Watson, Watson came with a lot of baggage. 465 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: There's no question about that. They knew that when they 466 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: took him. So look, I think when you go back 467 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: and you look at it, I think there there have 468 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: been some promising things. I thought Meyer looked good. I 469 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: thought either looked good. The other part of this that 470 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: that definitely happened in the early part of DJ's drafting 471 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: and when it happened in the organization is there was 472 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: really I know, they took Barry and they needed an 473 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: offensive player, but before that, there really was no edict 474 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 2: on like here's who we take, like here is how 475 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: we're building the team. It was sort of like, just 476 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: take the best player that you think is available, hitter 477 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: or pitcher, and we'll have an organization that'll be able 478 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: to make trades and we want the most talented people 479 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: and then listen, if we need the trade players, we will. 480 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: And again there's a lot of what Mike Hill said 481 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: too at the time, and then Mike kill is gone 482 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: and all these things are changing. So jury's still out 483 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: for me on that. But I do think there is 484 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: potential an Eater, and there is potential in Meyer. There's 485 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: still potential in Verdict. But it's a much larger question 486 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: for me because I don't know what JJ Blay is 487 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: going to be in Oakland, and Watson is still so 488 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 2: young in terms of his development, so and you know 489 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: Buried too as well. So I don't know. I'm not 490 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: the best draft person to ask about draft evaluation, but 491 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: I would tell you that the Marlins opening day lineup 492 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 2: of nine players didn't have a single player that they 493 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: drafted or signed via international free agency, which is bleeping crazy. 494 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: Hey, Fortes was in there in twenty eighteen. 495 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 3: Draft was in the smart opening day Yeah, I know. 496 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: I mean go around the league and see how many 497 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: teams did not draft or sign an international player in 498 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: a starting lineup of nine on opening day? New Morelands 499 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: had none. 500 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And before we ask you that last question, there 501 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: that Devin had. I wanted to ask about Kim your 502 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: assessment about her tenures so far? Believe she's on the 503 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: last year of her deal. Yes, it's so where do 504 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: you think this organization is heading in? How much of 505 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: her future lies on this season specifically? 506 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, she is in the last year of her deal. 507 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: I haven't heard any conversations one way or the other 508 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: as to whether or not she'll leave or come back. 509 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but thus far, the returns on 510 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: the trades appear to be pretty good. The aj Puck deal, 511 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: I thought, looks very good, if not fantastic. It looks 512 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: like they may have found an elite eighth ninth inning guy. 513 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: There are no question the Wria's trade looks excellent as well. 514 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: And those were two of the big trades that she 515 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: engineered in the off season. Some of the other deals, 516 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: the deadline deals and things of that nature, did not 517 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: look great. And the free agency also has not looked 518 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: great as well. I mean, those are all true statements 519 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: for sure. Some of the free agents also, even though 520 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: she was the general manager, I would not indict her 521 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: for because I believe Derek Jeter did most of the 522 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: legwork on at least one very big one. So I 523 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: would say at this point you have enough of trades 524 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: and free agencies under Kim's leadership to make the judgment 525 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the season. They only won sixty 526 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: nine games last year. If they win eighty five ninety games, 527 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty successful season. And I guess 528 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: that Kim would come back another year if they don't 529 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: improve and they look the same as last year, I mean, 530 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 2: I don't know how that could be possible. So a 531 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: lot riding it feels like on this year in my opinion. 532 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: And then finally Eli, we could bring back the tweet 533 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: up there, I guess more of a fun question and 534 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: from Devin. Want to know details of trades that didn't 535 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: happen in the last two years, if you have any, Greg, 536 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: there's so many. 537 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. We could be here all 538 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 2: we could be here for hours. We let you go. 539 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, there's so many. There's so many what 540 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: what what what is it? What are we looking for? 541 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: Whatever you want? 542 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, big time hitters. 543 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: Looking at you. I mean I tweeted out the Ozula 544 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: Garcia thing for a reason. It wasn't like there was 545 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: nothing behind that. Yeah, that was enough that wasn't good enough. 546 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: One they're they're they're definitely they they if they chose, 547 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: if they did not, Okay, if they did not get 548 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: a rise, they would have had Tyler O'Neill. That's definitely 549 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: something that would have happened. They would have in that route, 550 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: they could have done that. I don't I don't know 551 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: what else would have been in the trade. Not sure 552 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: but that, but that's something they could have done. 553 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 4: Uh. 554 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: The Brendan Rodgers thing was real. That was real. There 555 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: was some discussion there about that for about him, for 556 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: for Edward Cabrera. But I think that Miami didn't want 557 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: to do that. 558 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: What else one that hasn't been public on social media yet? 559 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of a good one. Like, there's nothing. 560 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think that there's anything made with 561 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 2: any major trade or even free agency. Jake Myers. I 562 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: know they looked at him and Siri. Those were with Houston. 563 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: They talked about those guys. 564 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 4: You mentioned O'Neill. Obviously there's some hiccup with him in 565 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: Saint Louis. That's still an options that are still are 566 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: they still looking at him. 567 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 2: They need to get Lefty. I keep saying it. But 568 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: they need to get a lefty these righty's. I mean, 569 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 2: I guess they need to get anybody who could hit 570 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: at this point. But yeah, I think that's I think. Look, 571 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: the card are not dumb. They're gonna not gonna trade 572 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: O'Neil when he's at his lowest point. So there we're 573 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: gonna have to wait on cardinald me pitching pretty bad. 574 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: So there's a possibility of that there. 575 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: Did you ever look at any of the of a 576 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: Rosarino or Yandy who? 577 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 2: I know? 578 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: You know a lot? 579 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 3: So? 580 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: Oh, Mount Castle that's another one. That's another one. 581 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 3: That's a weird fit with Koop. 582 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: That's another one. That's another one. Yeah, yeah, I don't 583 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: think any Again, you're talking about things that that go 584 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: from one to ten like that may have been a two. 585 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 2: But I know that Mount Castle at least came up 586 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: in some conversation as a possibility that I am I 587 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: am positive of. I'm trying to think of the other ones. 588 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: If you if you would have prepped me for this before, 589 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: I probably could have done a lot better. But that 590 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: was another name at least that they looked at it. 591 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: This this one probably came if you think about it, 592 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 2: I think this one probably came after they didn't get 593 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: jose Brew. That feels like what happened. He said, Okay, 594 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 2: we didn't get a break, let's pivot to this, and 595 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: then they pivoted away from that too. 596 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 597 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: I think that's where we can wrap it up. Craig, 598 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. 599 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 2: Any other questions that were important, Eli or you guys, 600 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: I have like two more minutes if you guys. We 601 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: got to get Hayes over to pitching practice here. 602 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 3: You know, well, that's yeah, that's question. 603 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 2: Hayes. Yeah, he's doing great. He's he's been pitching great. 604 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: I got a big announcement coming for the weekend with 605 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 2: him not playing though that's a little tip not playing, 606 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: but let's just say that you'll be seeing him this 607 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: weekend in a very big way if you watch Marlon's 608 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: coverage this week. I'm very really big this week, very 609 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: excited now. But yeah, he's been doing he's been doing great, very. 610 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 5: Happy, very quickly before we go, Craig, we're recording this 611 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 5: on Donnie's birthday. 612 00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 3: Don matting Lee Donnie. 613 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, so he's your guy, and he's still obviously active 614 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 5: in baseball. First year bench coaching with the Blue Jays. 615 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 5: Do you know how that's going for him? How is he. 616 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: He loves it? I heard yes, I heard he at well, Yes, 617 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: he loves it. He loves it. He's having a great time. 618 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: The team is winning. It's you know, it's it's one 619 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: of those things where I feel like he thought that 620 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: it was over for him here and he wanted a 621 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: new challenge there. He loves the players there too. I 622 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: know that they really lean on him quite a bit 623 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: and he's still very much hands on like he was 624 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: in the past, but in a different role. So I 625 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: was absolutely shocked that he took that job. But he's 626 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: he's doing fine, and he's you know, I'm very very 627 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: happy for him. I do think that that that his 628 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: last hit, you know, personally for me with Donnie, his 629 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: last year, this last year, I don't know, something was 630 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: just off with him the whole entire year. I feel 631 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: like I feel like it was one year too much 632 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: for him here. I feel like it was just like 633 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: rooms a rap and probably should have left before twenty 634 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: twenty two, to be honest with you, because so many 635 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: things went sideways last year. And I've enjoyed and I've 636 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: enjoyed having Schumacher as the manager too. I think that that's, 637 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: you know, a significant change there. So it's not like 638 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: I think Skip is a better manager than Donnie, but 639 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: sometimes the situation does dictate that it looks like that. 640 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: And maybe there's a part of that too, because there's 641 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: no doubt that Skip is super unlike Donnie. Skip is 642 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: super aggressive with these moves like like like he said, 643 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: like when I'm gonna you know what it is. The 644 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: reason why they run differential for the Marlins is gonna 645 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: be awful all year is because when they have a 646 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 2: chance to win, he's gonna throw the kitchen sink at 647 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: the game. And guys, when they are gonna lose, I'm 648 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: not gonna say Skip's gonna punk the game. If it 649 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: certainly feels like he's just like all right on to tomorrow, 650 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: which is rare, Like you don't you know, in the past, 651 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: it was those Marlin teams. They would lose like seven 652 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: to three, and then then we fought really but Donnie, 653 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: you guys fought real Are you proud of the way 654 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: you guys fought real hard but lost tenth in a row. 655 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: We're never gonna quit. We could fight with it, you know, 656 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: and this this guy is just like, all right, we're 657 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: down seven to nothing. Put smeltzer in. Let's just you know, 658 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: that's it. You know, what do we got to That's fine, 659 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: you know, And and maybe that's it's a different way 660 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: of operating for sure from what we've seen the past. 661 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: And that is where we will end it. From Isaac, 662 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: from Eli, from Craig myself. We'll see you guys all 663 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: in two weeks. Peace out and go fish.