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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Play and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: Let's dive into this news out of New York City

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Speaker 2: Mayor Eric Adam, who was supposed to make the city

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Speaker 2: safer and more functional and cleaner streets and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: He has failed so far in those efforts, and in

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Speaker 2: fact now is saying the city faces what I think

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Speaker 2: you'd have to call an existential crisis at some level,

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Speaker 2: or at least existential as to whether it will continue

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Speaker 2: to be the same city that many of us have

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Speaker 2: known as New York for so long. The migrant problem.

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Speaker 2: There are now one hundred and ten thousand migrants in

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Speaker 2: New York City. Now, the language we use about this matters,

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Speaker 2: but it's very hard to be precise because of what's

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Speaker 2: really going on here. These are all individuals who broke

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Speaker 2: US immigration law. They did not go through the normal

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Speaker 2: immigration process. They entered the United States illegally. They broke

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Speaker 2: the law. But the Biden administration chooses to turn back

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Speaker 2: very few of these individuals who cross from Mexico in

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Speaker 2: the United States on foot. They are from over one

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty countries all around the world. This is

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Speaker 2: not about anyone approving or disapproving of one group of

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Speaker 2: people or one country of people coming to America. They're

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Speaker 2: from all over the world. Some countries are more heavily

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Speaker 2: represented than others, but they are truly from everywhere, at

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Speaker 2: least everywhere that is generally a third world or low

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Speaker 2: income country. And they're coming in and they're saying that

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Speaker 2: they want asylum. They will not eventually be granted asylum,

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Speaker 2: but the asylum courts are so backlogged that the chance

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Speaker 2: that their case will be adjudicated in the next two years,

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Speaker 2: really the next five years, is effectively zero. So they

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Speaker 2: get to stay in the country for years. They get

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Speaker 2: to claim. Now, remember the asylum claim itself is a lie,

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Speaker 2: and it is against the law to lie to immigration officials.

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Speaker 2: But they say they have a credible fear of violence

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Speaker 2: in their home country. It's if you knew how stupidly

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Speaker 2: easy it was to pass the first screening test at

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Speaker 2: the border, you'd realize what a scam this whole thing is. Well,

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Speaker 2: now you certainly know if you didn't before. In fact,

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Speaker 2: migrants have been found with little pieces of paper that

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Speaker 2: tell them what to say This is something you won't

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Speaker 2: see reported very often. I've been down there, I've seen this.

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Speaker 2: I've seen that the wristbands that migrants have to show

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Speaker 2: they've paid off the proper cartel. The Mexican drug cartels

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Speaker 2: are making more money in some platzas or areas of

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Speaker 2: the border than they are even off of drugs. Now,

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Speaker 2: the drug flow is massive because our border patrol is

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Speaker 2: completely overwhelmed. But let's focus in that's the more national

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Speaker 2: level problem. Let's focus in on New York City. Clay,

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Speaker 2: they have one hundred and ten thousand migrants. They think

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Speaker 2: this is going to cost twelve billion dollars over the

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Speaker 2: next fiscal year for the City of New York. Even

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Speaker 2: for a city as large and high tax and high

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Speaker 2: earner as New York, that's a big deal. That's a

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Speaker 2: lot of money. I mean, just by way of comparison,

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Speaker 2: I think the FDN Y cost two billion dollars a year. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so you're talking about six fire departments for a city

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Speaker 2: of eight million people going toward one hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: thousand migrants. Twenty thousand migrants play are about to I

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Speaker 2: think today or next week as soon enter the New

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Speaker 2: of whom speak any English or have English language skills

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Speaker 2: that will be at grade level. What does this all mean, Well,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to take my word for everybody. Here's

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Speaker 2: Eric Adams saying, this will quote destroy New York City

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Speaker 2: play fifteen.

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Speaker 3: We get in no support on this national crisis and

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Speaker 3: we're receiving no support. And let me tell you something,

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Speaker 3: New York is. Never in my life have I had

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Speaker 3: a problem that I did not see an ended. Two.

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Speaker 3: I don't see an ending to this. I don't see

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Speaker 3: an ending to this. This issue will destroy New York City,

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Speaker 3: destroy New York City.

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Speaker 2: Hey, the mayor of our biggest city saying that all

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Speaker 2: the illegals are going to destroy New York City quite

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Speaker 1: Democrats are going to have to figure this out because

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Speaker 1: the single worst element of Joe Biden's presidency so far

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Speaker 1: that he fails on on every front is the border.

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Speaker 1: And the border crisis is not going away. Six million,

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Speaker 1: roughly illegals have that we know of, have come into

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Speaker 1: the country since Joe Biden became president. That's as many

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Speaker 1: people as nearly live in, for instance, the state of Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: So to contextualize how many people were talking about illegally entering.

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Speaker 1: If you have ever driven through a state like mine,

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Speaker 1: basically the same amount of people who live in Massachusett,

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: And I give credit because I do think he deserves

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Speaker 1: a lot of credit on this. For Greg Abbott, the

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Speaker 1: and see what this crisis is doing to my state,

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Speaker 1: then I will send the crisis to you, whether it's Washington,

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Speaker 1: And it only takes a pinprick of those illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: basically handle its population, right. I mean, that's what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, and we discussed, and I think this is important.

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Speaker 1: The incentive structure that New York City is giving out

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Speaker 1: because of the twelve billion that they're spending, that's your

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Speaker 1: tax payer dollars. If you're in New York, that's your

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Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars. If you're in Chicago or Washington, DC, or

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Speaker 1: LA or any of these cities that are inundated now

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Speaker 1: with illegal immigration, they're treating them far better than they

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Speaker 1: remember the guy we talked about who's in Brooklyn. They

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Speaker 1: took over the park. His family can go swimming every day.

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Speaker 1: They've got free Wi Fi. They don't just give them meals.

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Speaker 1: They give them meals that are popular in their home countries.

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Speaker 1: And they give them the ability to call back home.

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Speaker 1: They make more money. They tell everybody, Hey, this is amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's like you can go on a free vacation and

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Speaker 1: come to the best city in the world. Imagine what

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Speaker 1: you would think if you were in one of those

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Speaker 1: being openly acknowledged by Mayor Adams in New York City

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Speaker 1: creates a rift that is hard for the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1: to heal. And let me just point this out. Has

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Speaker 1: AOC made a trip to the border since Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: became President buck in her district Now there is a

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Speaker 1: massive issue with illegal immigration. Remember when she stood at

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Speaker 1: the chain link fence and the all white outfit with

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Speaker 1: her hand outstretched, crying about what was happening. It's far

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Speaker 1: worse now than it was then. She won't go to

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Speaker 1: explain her decision making.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, so I'll tell you the plan here.

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Speaker 2: It's a couple of things, but a part of it is,

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Speaker 2: especially in a second term, they're gonna lie to the

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Speaker 2: American people about immigration in the election year. And when

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Speaker 2: I say lie, I mean about their intentions. They have

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Speaker 2: no problem with this. They have a problem with people

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Speaker 2: figuring out what's going on. The Democrat mindset is not,

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Speaker 2: oh gosh, all these illegals are going to require so

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Speaker 2: much in the way of state resources, which means we're

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Speaker 2: have to tell people who are here legally, who are

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Speaker 2: people who came without actually respecting our laws in the

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Speaker 2: first place. Democrats don't want people to figure out, that's

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Speaker 2: what's going on. But they do want more legal immigrants.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's been obvious for a long time now.

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Speaker 2: So they'll do what they always do, which is going

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Speaker 2: into election year, they'll start Biden will say, you know,

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Speaker 2: are scamming our system. They are not saying, let's turn

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Speaker 2: away more people. To your point about the incentive structure,

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Speaker 2: we currently have a border that is intentionally easy to

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Speaker 2: the first place, they are waiting for it. They have overwhelmed,

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Speaker 2: in Saul Alynski style, the machineary of our immigration system.

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Speaker 2: This is all intentional, right, You overwhelm the system so

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Speaker 2: that it seizes up, it breaks, and then you can

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Speaker 2: do whatever you want. Democrats have a problem, though. Numbers

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Speaker 2: on immigration clay show that the American people are souring

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Speaker 2: rapidly on particularly illegal immigration problems. Of the border. Overall

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Speaker 2: views of immigration are dropping. People are starting to say,

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Speaker 2: hold on a second. So now we're taking a million

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Speaker 2: We have a thirty two trillion dollar deficit. Start to

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Speaker 2: do the math on this. If one hundred and ten

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Speaker 2: all the rest of it. Democrats have no answer for this.

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Speaker 2: it needs to change. Gee, I think that's well said.

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Speaker 1: Here's one of the challenges is Biden so bad at

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Speaker 1: everything that it makes it hard to focus on any

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Speaker 1: one thing and hammer import I mean, just in terms

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Speaker 1: of messaging when you think about it, crime is a disaster.

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Speaker 2: The border is a disaster. The economy is a disaster,

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Speaker 2: a disaster. I gotta I gotta throw a flag here,

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Speaker 2: mister Clay. He doesn't get blamed for the crime thing. Biden.

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Speaker 2: This is one area where he escaped all the because

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Speaker 2: he said didn't support defunding the police, which didn't support play. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he didn't support defund because he knew that was super

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Speaker 2: So on crime, they'll say that's a state and local issue.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't really nail him on the on the border,

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Speaker 2: total total disaster. You know, the the economy is not good,

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Speaker 2: latest Goldn Sachs estimate says like a ten or fifteen

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Speaker 2: places ten or fifteen percent chance of for session next year.

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Speaker 2: I think it's much higher than that.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I think, and I say this because I

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Speaker 1: was talking about this with you off air. People know

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Speaker 1: that the economy is broken based on inflation, and they're

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Speaker 1: just waiting for it to be explained to them. And

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Speaker 1: I just keep hammering this home. I can't go through

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Speaker 1: a drive through with my kids. I did it again

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Speaker 2: On Hamburgers and French Fries.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a Hamburgers and French Fries

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Speaker 2: Reacting to a lot of stories.

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Speaker 1: We're still going to get to the news about the

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Speaker 4: Right now today, I think a lot of Democrats look

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Speaker 5: They are trying to follow a narrative. They are trying

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Speaker 7: we went to the Ed Sheeran concert. We've really been

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Speaker 7: out there. I haven't gotten COVID, and I'm like, you

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Speaker 7: know what if I get it, I get it. Then

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Speaker 7: all of a sudden, they announced there's a news strain

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Speaker 7: of COVID and it's on the rise, and you know,

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Speaker 7: people are being hospitalized. It's time to go back down

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Speaker 7: into lockdown.

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Speaker 1: I just feel bad for him, but also who's listening

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Speaker 1: to him nine years old?

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Speaker 2: First of all, So to be clear, he doesn't really

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Speaker 2: say I was looking at the transcript, but he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of quoting people saying it's time to go

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Speaker 2: back into lockdown. So he's freaked out about it, but

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Speaker 2: he's actually not calling for He didn't leave buck his

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Speaker 2: house for two and a half years. I mean, no,

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Speaker 2: he's insane, for sure. I'm not walking back on that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying though technically he thinks he's super worried

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Speaker 2: about it, but he's saying others are saying it's time

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Speaker 2: to go back into lockdown. I don't think he's I

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Speaker 2: think he.

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Speaker 1: Says at some point, I think it's time to go

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Speaker 1: back into lock I mean, it's.

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Speaker 2: Crazy, he's crazy about this. I just want to be accurate. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I think, sadly.

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Speaker 1: This is kind of the paragon of the Democrat Party now,

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Speaker 1: this is what they have become. Is this fearful I

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Speaker 1: would say, uh, you know, just terrified group. And I

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Speaker 1: feel sad for him on some level. I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: if you're sixty nine years old, and I'm assuming he

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Speaker 1: may have grandkids. Now I don't know what I know

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Speaker 1: he has kids. I don't know what the kids situation is.

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Speaker 1: But can you imagine just giving up years of your

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Speaker 1: life to stay in your apartment because you were terrified

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Speaker 1: of a virus that bore you almost no risk at all.

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Speaker 1: And I just I And there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: these people, and so this ties in with what we

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Speaker 1: talked about. If doctor Fauci were Buck a decent and

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Speaker 1: caring person, wouldn't he come out and say go back

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Speaker 1: to your lives.

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Speaker 2: This is what I've been saying all along. Yeah, he's cruel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is These are the people who are the

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Speaker 1: most Fauci following of the entire American community, and they

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Speaker 1: are terrified that they're going to die from a virus

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Speaker 1: that bears them almost no risk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it would be like walking around and

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Speaker 2: being terrified. You know, you could get MURSA and die

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Speaker 2: Like that can happen, you know, you can just get

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Speaker 2: a terrible bacterial infection and die. You know, it's a

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Speaker 2: hospital is a very commonplace, but you can get other

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Speaker 2: places too. You know, once in a while you will

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Speaker 2: read about somebody who gets a brain eating they call

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Speaker 2: it amba from swimming in the wrong place, and it's

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Speaker 2: the most horrifying thing. And that's why it becomes a

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Speaker 2: news story because you know it's it can strike with

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Speaker 2: no warning. And you're does I mean, no one's going

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Speaker 2: swimming in anything that is non chlorinated water going forward?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean you can break this down into how crazy

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Speaker 2: do you want to be? And I just think it's

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Speaker 2: interesting that someone with the you know, medical resources at

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Speaker 2: his disposal, being incredibly wealthy as Howard Stern at this

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Speaker 2: point in time, and who's supposed here's the part of

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Speaker 2: it that's really disappointing, someone who's supposed to be able

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Speaker 2: to see through the BS. Yeah, how he may does

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Speaker 2: not see through the fear campaign at this point. How

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Speaker 2: can he not through it? And obviously he's got a

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Speaker 2: neurosis a he's got like an anxiety disorder that this triggers.

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Speaker 1: And I think there are a lot of the people

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Speaker 1: that are like him. And what I circle back to ultimately,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I'm rare in this and not to get

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Speaker 1: too dark here, but we're all gonna die. And to me,

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Speaker 1: It's not about how many years necessarily that you are

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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to be able to live. It's about the

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Speaker 1: quality of life you have during those years. And if

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Speaker 1: you are so convinced that you're afraid to kiss your grandkid,

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Speaker 1: or afraid to hug your son or daughter, afraid to

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Speaker 1: go to a freaking restaurant, to me, that's worse than death,

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Speaker 1: right Like, on some level, if you give up on

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Speaker 1: life because you are so fearful of dying, you've already

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Speaker 1: embraced whatever the worst thing could be, because you've given

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Speaker 1: up the ability to truly live. And I don't want

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Speaker 1: to go full philosophical here, but that has to be

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Speaker 1: an awful way to live. And there are millions of

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Speaker 1: people living that way right now. Still still Clay's a live,

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Speaker 1: free or die kind of guy. I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm rare. Maybe I'll feel differently if I'm fortunate

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Speaker 1: enough to live to be eighty. But I'm forty four

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Speaker 1: and I don't fear death. I feel like I've had

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Speaker 1: a really good forty four years. If something awful happens

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Speaker 1: to me, I would hate for that to happen. But

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Speaker 1: the idea that you would be so terrified of death.

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Speaker 1: That you would refuse to live your life is to

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Speaker 1: me the ultimate failure of life itself in many ways.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a lot of wisdom in that place,

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Speaker 6: I would like, I mean, so, I feel bad for

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Speaker 6: Howard Stern And more importantly, this guy used to be

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Speaker 6: a radio legend, and he lived as a rebellious figure,

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Speaker 6: and now buck he is a shell of the person

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Speaker 6: that he used to be.

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Speaker 2: And who is listening to him like, I feel bad

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Speaker 2: for those people too. You know, there's such a thing

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Speaker 1: Subscribe to CNB twenty four to seven. Welcome back in

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're going to be joined

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Speaker 1: by Andy McCarthy, our friend, former federal prosecutor, to analyze

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Speaker 1: what we should know, what we should think about the

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden potential grand jury charges that could be brought

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Speaker 1: surrounding his criminal behavior. We'll discuss that in the next hour.

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Speaker 1: Here in the next fifteen minutes or so. But Buck

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Speaker 1: Vivek Gramaswami, who has surged up to I think it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say third fourth some places, tiptoeing around second

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Speaker 1: in the Republican primary, went on with MSNBC. This guy's

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Speaker 1: name is Mehdi Hassan. Is that how you pronounce his name? Yes,

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Speaker 1: And they got into a super contentious fight over what

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Speaker 1: exactly Viveik had said about Trump in the past.

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Speaker 8: Listen, do you say he behaved in downright of horrent

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Speaker 8: behavior that makes him a danger to demo? Downright?

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Speaker 9: Let's tell me, let's actually be let's actually be really

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Speaker 9: fair to your audience. So on January tenth, twenty twenty

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Speaker 9: one thereabouts, days after that incident, I wrote an outfit

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Speaker 9: on the Wall Street Journal arguing that censorship was the

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Speaker 9: real cause of what happened. On January sixth, when asked

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Speaker 9: in response, somebody asked me the question, are you that

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Speaker 9: that's that's well, that's what I wrote. I'm giving you

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Speaker 9: the facts of what I said. That's a hard fact

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Speaker 9: that was published in the Wall Street Journal. When pressed

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Speaker 9: on was that condoning what Trump did? My answer was no,

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Speaker 9: There's a difference between a bad judgment and understudy, we

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Speaker 9: were all.

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Speaker 8: The different Trump do your view that was downright abhorrent.

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Speaker 8: Second time, I.

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Speaker 9: Think that the thing that I would have done differently,

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Speaker 9: if I were hitting his shoes, would have declared reelection

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Speaker 9: on januarythechaically, the thing.

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Speaker 8: I would Trump do that was egregious, quote downright abhorrent

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Speaker 8: and a danger to democracy. Can you just explain to

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Speaker 8: our views your.

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Speaker 9: Words, so so you're you're mixing two different gess But

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Speaker 9: what did I think was reprehensible about what happened that day? Look,

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Speaker 9: I think that the way a true leader should have

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Speaker 9: handled that situation should have been to actually say this

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Speaker 9: is me running for reelection, not actually litigating what is

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Speaker 9: already passed in behind us.

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Speaker 2: And I would have done things differently. That is not

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Speaker 2: a crime, though. I mean, Okay, so here's what's going on.

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Speaker 2: The VAK wrote in a tweet after January sixth that

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Speaker 2: what happened I don't have it in front of me,

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Speaker 2: but he said that it was what Trump did was abhorrent. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's what he's being pushed on here now. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why Vivik's gone on MSNBC. You're just gonna get

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Speaker 2: You're not you're not gonna bring over any MSNBC viewers.

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Speaker 2: You're going to the Lions then, So I respect that.

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Speaker 2: I respect it. I don't know if it's politically there's

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Speaker 2: any advantage to it, but you know, I Vik wants

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Speaker 2: to do it, that's his call. And obviously he's done

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Speaker 2: a lot of intelligent things in this primary so far

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Speaker 2: that have moved him way ahead of other very well

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Speaker 2: known politicians. Fine, fine, fine, but what Meddi Hassan is

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Speaker 2: exposing here is that Vivek is technically running against Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump and refuses to stand behind a criticism of him

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Speaker 2: that he made like two years ago or maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: less than that, and saying other things doesn't answer the question.

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Speaker 2: So he got you know, you go on MSNBC. Look,

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Speaker 2: I know what it's like at CNN, man, I had

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Speaker 2: them do all kinds of stuff when I used to

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Speaker 2: go on CNN Clay back in the day. But you

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Speaker 2: can't keep responding to did you What he's being asked

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Speaker 2: is did you think what Trump did on January sixth

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Speaker 2: was abhorrent? Because you previously said that, and he just

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Speaker 2: keeps saying other things. I mean, take that as you will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And to your point, I think there's even more.

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Speaker 1: They kept going back and forth and he kept trying

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Speaker 1: to badger him on that particular issue. To me, the

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Speaker 1: most challenging aspect of the Vagus candidacy for president, and

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Speaker 1: I think to your point, he has been incredibly successful

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Speaker 1: relative to what anyone could have anticipated when he entered

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Speaker 1: this race seven eight months ago, whenever that official entry was.

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Speaker 1: He still has yet to explain why, if Trump is

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Speaker 1: so good, he's actually running against him. And I understand

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Speaker 1: the argument of well, I can be better than Trump.

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Speaker 2: Which is what his argument would be. There's a level

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Speaker 2: beyond this. If you can't, if you can't criticize the

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Speaker 2: person who's already been president that you think did a

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Speaker 2: great job, but you say you'll be better, then on

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Speaker 2: what basis do you think you'd be better?

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Speaker 4: Then?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, and that's that's just the reality.

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Speaker 1: That's me is the challenge of Vivike's candidacy, because whether

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Speaker 1: you agree or the biggest challenge whether you agree or

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Speaker 1: disagree with DeSantis or Nikky Haley or Mike Pence for instance,

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Speaker 1: just to use three, they have made an argument for

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Speaker 1: why they should be the nominee and Trump shouldn't. They're

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Speaker 1: actually running against Trump in essence, same.

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Speaker 2: Thing for Chris Christy.

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Speaker 1: I don't get the sense still that Thevek is actually

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Speaker 1: running against Trump.

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Speaker 2: He's running with Trump. What this clip to a lot

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Speaker 2: of people as sad? A lot of the commentary on

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Speaker 2: it is why is he so scared of Trump? What's that?

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Speaker 2: What's scared of criticizing him?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What's why? Is that such a and then people start

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Speaker 2: to ask other questions like what's really going on here?

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Speaker 1: And again we're sitting four months out from the race

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Speaker 1: in Iowa, but it feels like if Vivek is actually

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Speaker 1: running for president and not vice president, at some point

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Speaker 1: he has to create separation in space between himself and

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Speaker 1: Trump and he has not done that. Now, maybe you

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Speaker 1: can argue, if you're looking at the uh, looking at

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Speaker 1: the larger race, that the first thing Vivek had to

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Speaker 1: do was create some recognition of who he is and

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Speaker 1: a understanding of his perspective. But he has not created

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Speaker 1: space separation between himself and president.

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Speaker 2: And there's a long standing president on both sides of

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Speaker 2: even in bruising primaries. I mean, look, Kamala Harris called

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden, you know, a crazy old racist basically, and

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Speaker 2: he made her as vice president. Correct. So and you

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Speaker 2: go back in time, you'll see there's plenty of this

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Speaker 2: where people they criticize each other, they go after each

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Speaker 2: other on the stage, and then they unite for the

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Speaker 2: party to do what's best for the country. So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you have no criticism of Trump, I need to

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Speaker 2: understand why you're running against Trump. Not I think i'd

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Speaker 2: be you know, Trump got a ninety nine out of

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Speaker 2: one hundred, and I'd get a hundred out of one hundred,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, you got to actually

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Speaker 2: tell me because because if you think that he didn't

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Speaker 2: fail on anything, if there's no criticism of him, then

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Speaker 2: all right, man, let's all hop on the Trump train together. Right,

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Speaker 2: what's the point?

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Speaker 1: And again, I think when you actually break down the vague,

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Speaker 1: the big challenge if you're going to run against Trump

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Speaker 1: is it seems to me there's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who are never going to drop out of this race.

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Speaker 1: And if that is true, if there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people buck who are just gonna say I'm all in,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride this all the way to the end,

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Speaker 1: there's no space for anybody other than Trump. Like the

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Speaker 1: alternative to Trump isn't going to exist if seven or

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Speaker 1: eight people decide they're gonna ride all the way to

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Speaker 1: brough Super.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday, we got some breaking legal news about Trump, just

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Speaker 2: in Clay about his Georgia case. But ever, we want

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Speaker 2: to keep people on the edge of their seats because

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Speaker 2: we can talk to our friend Andy McCarthy about this

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Speaker 2: breaking news about Trump's Georgia case and about the Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden looming gun indicting that is coming up.

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