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Speaker 1: talk about it to night. They're watching us in Calhoun, Georgia, Arvada, Colorado, Quincy, Illinois, Hamilton, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you're watching, thank you, wherever you're listening, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Please make sure you do one more thing if you

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Speaker 1: on this piece of paper. Why is that spring practice?

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Speaker 1: also got to deal with the bullseye on their back.

426
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Speaker 1: And there are things called the consequences of success that

427
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Speaker 1: as much respect as anyone including me could have for

428
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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti, they haven't dealt with at this level. They

429
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Speaker 1: haven't dealt with this combination of churn and then expectation,

430
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: so it kind of set up and simultaneous. Now, what

431
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: you gotta love is the staff continuity. I mean, they

432
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: got maybe the best coordinator combo in America and somehow,

433
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: through a cheap code, they kept them. And that's not

434
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: supposed to work that way, but it did. So there's

435
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: not really a specific thing that I'm looking for in Indiana.

436
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: It's more in totality. Maybe we'll even get up there

437
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: this spring. Maybe Texas Tech. Now, look, Texas Tech went

438
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: to the playoff last year. They dominated the Big twelve.

439
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: They lost some cornerstones on defense. There's some big name players.

440
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: Romelo Height is going, Lee Hunter's gone, Bailey's gone. They

441
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: lost big time players. And the thing is, I don't

442
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: doubt they're totally comfortable that they backfilled properly and they've

443
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: earned the benefit of the doubt. But what they didn't

444
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: do is they didn't go raid the rosters of a

445
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: lot of top teams. They went and evaluated, and they

446
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: went and got the best players off of some G

447
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: five teams and maybe some second tier Power four team,

448
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: which is totally fine. It's not like that can't work.

449
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: For all I know, they may have a better team

450
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: this year than they did last year. I think at

451
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: quarterback they absolutely upgraded, but defense wasn't the issue last year.

452
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: And so you circle it right back to Brendan Soresby

453
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: at quarterback because both of those running backs return and

454
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: the other thing that they did last year so effortless,

455
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: it seemed effortless. It wasn't effortless. Is they brought in

456
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of new guys from the portal and they

457
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: just immediately got it. It's like you didn't have to

458
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Speaker 1: go through several introductory rounds of you know, like onboarding

459
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Speaker 1: and here's how we do things here. Everybody just kind

460
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: of got it. Well, will they duplicate that? Every year?

461
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: You start to feel that a little bit because I

462
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: remember talking to Joey. I remember talking to a couple

463
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: of guys on that staff in spring last year. We

464
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: were out there and they were adamant, Hey, this group's

465
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Speaker 1: got it. We just got it now. I was sitting

466
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Speaker 1: at a table with Joey mcguarre a month ago and

467
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, that thing, that little vibe that you

468
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: told me last spring, you know you can't just take

469
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: that for granted. He said, That's the biggest challenge we

470
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: have right now is reminding everyone that just because it

471
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: happened one year doesn't mean we have a patent on it.

472
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: We start from scratch. You hit threeset button and of

473
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: course your record is zero and zero. But also you've

474
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: got to build a new team. Always interesting the external

475
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: dynamics there. What about Miami on paper? So this right here.

476
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: When it says you have to replace four or five

477
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: offensive linemen, that's normally a big time concern. I'm going

478
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: to call it a mild concern only because the whole

479
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt thing it heavily tilts towards Alex

480
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: Mirabal and Mario Cristobaul just knowing how to put an

481
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Speaker 1: offensive line on the field. And they're relying on a

482
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: bunch of in house products too. They didn't go search

483
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: far and wide in the portal to, you know, just

484
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Speaker 1: basically put a strip of masking tape over that unit

485
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: on the program. No, they trust the guys that they

486
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: have there. And then on the other side, you got

487
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: Baine going to the draft, Mesador going to the draft.

488
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: Now Damon Wilson came in, and he'll be a guy

489
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: that should be plug and play. But are we looking

490
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: at Marquise Lightfoot. There are a couple of other options

491
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: there do they have, Let me rephrase, they probably don't

492
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Speaker 1: have a pair that just pound for pound, have the

493
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Speaker 1: impact that Baine and Mesador did. But again, these are

494
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: like chunks of clay football teams are, and so when

495
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: you take some from here, you can add some from

496
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: over there. In the aggregate. You just hope to be

497
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: able to put a playoff caliber product on the field,

498
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: a championship caliber product on the field. Also, I would

499
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 1: like to talk about Oregon because I don't have a

500
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: ton of questions about them other than o line. Now,

501
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: if they don't have it, they don't have it. If

502
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: Oregon does have it on the offensive line, this team

503
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: may win a national championship this upcoming year, which I

504
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: know Dan appreciates. On March eighth, but D line dB

505
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: loaded offensive line. They lost three of five. But I

506
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: feel okay about them there. But that's the big question

507
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: mark because they are relying on their guys this time

508
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: last year, it was Isaiah World, it was pregnant, it

509
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: was guys they were bringing in from the portal because

510
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: they didn't think they were ready. Well, now I think

511
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: they think they're ready there and again, quarterback check, wide

512
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: receiver check, running back check. There's not a big question

513
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: mark elsewhere on this roster relative to the rest of

514
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: the country except the offensive line position. So that's what

515
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: we're looking at there. I'm still not done. I just

516
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: have to quickly remind you because it would be rude

517
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: if I didn't that we have a ton of really

518
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519
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521
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: shot of cold air later this week, but don't be fooled.

522
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: Spring is coming and I have it on very good authority.

523
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: Summer will come after that. So I know you've been

524
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: bundled up all and it's not fun, but it is

525
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: what it is. But the evil winter is gone and

526
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: spring is here, and that means short sleeve weather is here,

527
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529
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530
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: it casual where we just call it where kind of

531
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Speaker 1: have to come up with a new name for it,

532
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: a new industry standard name for it. But you want

533
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Speaker 1: the ram Noodle Express represented on your chest, you can

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536
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Speaker 1: Now you buy a pet State Strength the Conditioning shirt.

537
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: Jesse just keeps all that money. So nevertheless, a lot

538
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: of good products over there. I can be found frequently

539
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: wearing them around my apartment in the gym. Let's continue.

540
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: I told you it's a Spring Mega show. Like half

541
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: an hour in, we've just talked about Spring. I got

542
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: a lot of other things to talk about in the

543
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: show tonight. We haven't even talked about the SEC yet.

544
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: So around the SEC, the SEC is always the caboose

545
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: on the show. As you know, Texas, Texas right now

546
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: would be considered the favorites to win the league this

547
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: upcoming year. And there's a pattern with a lot of

548
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: these teams that I'm about to mention, because Texas and

549
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: LSU and Alabama and Oklahoma are four teams just right

550
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: off the top here that need to mightily improve the

551
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: run games. I mean, just inexplicable underachievement running the football

552
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: last year and it led to amounts of pressure on

553
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback that you just can't tolerate. So Georgia ironically

554
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: dealt with this and then they fixed themselves last year.

555
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: So can Texas do that? Trevor Gooseby offensive tackle stud

556
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: I have no doubts about him other than that you

557
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: got to replace some guards here. What caliber of offensive line

558
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: are we Rotten out there in Austin. They crushed it

559
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: at running back. They just basically flushed the running back

560
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: room and said, if we can get Rlie Brown, we

561
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: get Hollywood Smothers, we get both of those guys out

562
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: of the portal, and we can because we're Texas, then

563
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: we're good. And they did that and they should be

564
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: good there. Also, I don't want to overlook this. You know,

565
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: Texas added a lot of players from the transfer portal,

566
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Speaker 1: but they also added Mark Stoops, who was fired as

567
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Speaker 1: the head coach at Kentucky, and he's just there right now.

568
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Speaker 1: And it's interesting to me for a couple of reasons. Firstly,

569
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Speaker 1: because Texas struggled mightily against Kentucky last year, so it's

570
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: always nice to have that voice defensively in your building now.

571
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Speaker 1: But the other part is, if you'll notice Texas against Georgia,

572
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Speaker 1: for example, they have finished runner up in the physicality department,

573
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Speaker 1: in the toughness department on the field against Georgia three

574
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: times now in the past couple of years. I guess

575
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: it is. And I always remember Kirby Smart talking about

576
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 1: the toughest physical battle his team had every year, and

577
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: he always circled Kentucky. He always circled Mark Stoops. Now

578
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: they could just meet grind their way to wins against

579
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: Kentucky because they could outroster them, but it was always

580
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: a bloodbath. I don't know how much of that Mark

581
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: Stoops can serve to infuse into the Texas program. He

582
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: is just one man, after all. But it doesn't hurt

583
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: having a guy like that in your building. So I'll

584
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. At LSU, this was the

585
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: worst team in the league running the ball. I want

586
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: to say it again for emphasis. LSU was the worst

587
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: team in the SEC running the ball last year. They

588
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: realized it, as did everyone under the sun. And so

589
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin comes in and then he brings in half

590
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: a dozen new offensive linemen from the portal. Question, how

591
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Speaker 1: good can the running back room? Because you're gonna look

592
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: on this right here, and on paper it's gonna be ugh.

593
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, But then you know, you hit up

594
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: Shaye Dixon for example, you hit up the guys close

595
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: to the program down there, and they'll tell you. Harlem

596
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: Barry it was very very important they kept him around.

597
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: Caden Durham, it was very important they kept him around.

598
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: Dylan Jones is a guy I believe that transferred from

599
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: Wisconsin who would probably figure third on the depth chart,

600
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: but has been an early buy in. Guy A guy's

601
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: given him a lot of juice. I just wonder how

602
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Speaker 1: good that tailback room can be. I wonder how good

603
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: the entire team can be. I wonder with a total

604
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: of what did we count Jesse one reception returning in

605
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: the wide receiver room, not the tight end room, just

606
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: the wide receiver room. I wonder how effective that room

607
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: can be. Look, they brought in a lot of potential

608
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: impact guys. I get how the portal works. I get

609
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Speaker 1: all of it. It's just got a gel it's got

610
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Speaker 1: a coalesce. Because it's a new team for Lane Kiffin,

611
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: very high expectations. They're not going to give you an

612
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Speaker 1: introductory year down there. So this is probably gonna be

613
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Speaker 1: the highest, highest highest attention spring practice that you can

614
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: remember in quite a while. In Baton Rouge at Alabama,

615
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: obviously we got the quarterback battle there. So Alabama, you're

616
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Speaker 1: gonna have Keelan Russell, You're gonna have Austin Mack and

617
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be the most high profile quarterback battle in

618
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Speaker 1: the country. We did a whole segment on that the

619
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Speaker 1: other night. So let's move past the quarterback battle. Four

620
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: of their five offensive linemen are gone, their offensive line

621
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Speaker 1: coach is gone. Now you can listen to that if

622
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: you live in Boise, Idaho and say, oh, Obama's in trouble.

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Speaker 1: People in Tuscaloosa, Alabama listen to that and probably say good,

624
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, because we kind of we low key sucked

625
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: there last year and that led to them not being

626
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: able to run the ball, and that led to Tys Simpson.

627
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: It took all the way to the playoff, but it

628
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: finally led to him getting injured, and he was hurt

629
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Speaker 1: all year but finally couldn't play anymore physically by the

630
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: time the Rose Bowl came around. Looks like they trust

631
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Speaker 1: their recruiting and development because they didn't go and overhaul

632
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Speaker 1: in the portal at offensive line either. I know they

633
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: went after Jacia's peak, but South Carolina landed him and

634
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: he's out at South Carolina right now. But other than that,

635
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they got a lot of guys they've recruited

636
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Speaker 1: that are young that they're gonna trust. Here I look

637
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Speaker 1: at the other side of the ball and wonder if

638
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 1: they're good enough on the interior of the defensive line.

639
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: And again, like I've said three or four times tonight,

640
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: it's okay not to know everything with the start of

641
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: spring ball, but we don't have to talk about it

642
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: a whole lot longer. We start to figure a lot

643
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: of this out in March. What about Oklahoma? Yet again

644
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: four for four here teams that should have been better

645
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: than they were last year, but they couldn't run the ball,

646
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: so they didn't maximize their potential. Well, John Matteer is

647
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: back at quarterback. As I said last show, a lot

648
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: of competing theories out there about how good John Mattier

649
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: can be. I picked the guy to win the Heisman

650
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: last year partly because I thought it was good value.

651
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: Let's be real, and so I mean, I haven't I've

652
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: sold the ticket because it's invalid now, but I haven't

653
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: sold my John Matteer stock. But here's what I I need,

654
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: all right. I got two top tailbacks returning here. Defense

655
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: is always going to be good, you know, cause it's

656
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: Brenton Venables. But four or five offensive linemen being back,

657
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: I just got to have them be better. I got

658
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: to have them be so much better than they were

659
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: last year because one hundred and thirteenth rushing. Look, even

660
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: seventy third rushing is not going to be good enough.

661
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: That's what will teach me about the ultimate ceiling of

662
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: this team. Got a tough schedule again, you did last year,

663
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: and I don't want to talk about them like they

664
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: went six and six, they went to the playoff. The

665
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: problem was they were a one story house and you

666
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: needed to be two or three stories tall to win

667
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: come postseason, they couldn't because they couln't run the ball.

668
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they faced another team that couldn't run the

669
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: ball and couldn't even beat them. So, yeah, Georgia. It's

670
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: interesting I put Georgia purposefully next after those four teams

671
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: because remember this time last year going into spring, what

672
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: were people talking about. They were talking about carson Beck transferring,

673
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: so Gunner Stocked in like how good's he gonna be?

674
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: And they were saying, wait a second, we couldn't run

675
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: the ball last year. Carson Beck bailed us out a

676
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: lot through for like nineteen thousand yards, but we just

677
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: lost a guy who could throw the ball. Gunnar Stocked

678
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: is a lot more of a running quarterback. If we

679
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: can't run the ball this year, we're going to be

680
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: in big trouble. Hey, that was not breaking news to

681
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart and his staff, so they corrected. Okay, they've

682
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: already been in the position a lot of these other

683
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: teams are in. They couldn't run the ball well at

684
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: all in twenty twenty four, but they pulled the nose

685
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: up in twenty twenty five. So, as is often the case,

686
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: if you're trying to figure things out in the SEC,

687
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: look to Athens Georgia. They probably have a blueprint for

688
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: it that they've used at some point along the way.

689
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: But at Georgia they're losing four of their top five

690
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: wide receivers. And I was going back just for fun

691
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: the other day looking at some of the twenty twenty

692
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: one twenty twenty two Georgia games. They were so loaded

693
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. Probably didn't appreciate it enough at the

694
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: time because you just always thought it would be like

695
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: an endless supply of those kinds of guys. It wasn't.

696
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: And so I wonder if they're going to be dynamic

697
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: enough in that room, And then I wonder if there's

698
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: going to be a different level to Gunner Stockton's game.

699
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: That's okay, but you know, I always kind of wonder,

700
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: all right, well does a guy level up? They're replacing

701
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Monroe Freeling at tackle, and look, I don't know that

702
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: they just have the guy to do that, but they're

703
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: counting on in house guys as well. This is not

704
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: a huge portal program. They can they have the ability to.

705
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: They don't ignore it. It's not a dabbo Clemson sort

706
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: of thing. But they don't heavily rely on it. And

707
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: they haven't here either. But it's Georgia too, so very

708
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: high floor. Texas A and M one of the most

709
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: fascinating teams in all the college football to follow right

710
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: now because they had a good offensive line. They're losing

711
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 1: a lot. But with Marcel Reid, I ask the same

712
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: thing about him, I ask how high is the floor?

713
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: Because he had a very very volatile second half of

714
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: his season last year. I mean, there are a lot

715
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: of the highs were high, but the low those were

716
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: really low. Just watch the South Carolina game. I have

717
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: never been on that kind of emotional ride. Was that

718
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: the biggest comeback Jesse? What was it? It was like

719
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: the biggest comeback in conference play history or something like that. Crazy,

720
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: So that's not fun. That's not fun. What you want

721
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: is you want to compress the variance a little bit. Okay,

722
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: let's have a little more consistency and outcome. Well, they

723
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: have to replace both coordinators and they elevated. They did

724
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: an organ they promoted from within. Hollman Wiggins is the

725
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: new OC there, Lyle Hmphild is the new or I

726
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: said old the new OC and the new DC there.

727
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: This is where if I'm right about Mike Elko, if

728
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: they're right about Mike Elko, this is really the spring

729
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: where it starts to bear itself out. And by right,

730
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean thinking he is a supreme evaluator and developer

731
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: of talent and also just happens to be at a

732
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: program that can go get a lot of it. But

733
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: then is it bettering itself or is it the opposite?

734
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: Are you getting guys on campus and the best they'll

735
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: ever be is the day they walk on campus? Well

736
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: that I don't think that's Mike Elkos Texas A and M.

737
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: They did look at the portal and specifically they needed

738
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: to backfill in the front seven there. So a lot

739
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: of a lot of their future, a lot of their

740
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: destiny this year will depend on portal editions defensively in

741
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: that front seven Tennessee. Tennessee had a weird year last

742
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: year because of the Nico Yama Liiava stuff. That was

743
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: post spring. By the way, it feels like nineteen years ago.

744
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: It's post spring. Tennessee loses Nico. Okay, then Joey Aguilar

745
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: comes on board, and now Joey Agilar has been ruled ineligible,

746
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: so he's not going to be your starter. So we

747
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: got the quarterback thing, and I'll get to that in

748
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: just a second. But you know, they also brought in

749
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: Jim Knowles as defensive coordinator. That's been an interesting three

750
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: year journey. By the way, Jim Knowles is at Ohio State.

751
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: They win the nation title. Then James Franklin pulls off

752
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: the big ten coup of the hiring cycle and he

753
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: goes and gets Jim Knowles and brings him in. But

754
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: then halfway through the season, not even halfway halfway through

755
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: the first half of the season, James Franklin's out. And

756
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: so Jim Knowles is in state college one year and

757
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: then he's out and now he's gone to Blacksburg. No,

758
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: he's gone to Knoxville because Josh Hipel hired him, and

759
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: he brought what Jesse like three or four guys with

760
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: him that'll probably end up being starters. And it's needed

761
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: because Tennessee went from sixth to ninety second over the

762
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: span of one year in total defense, fell off a cliff.

763
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: So they'll be better defensively this year. But the book

764
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: on Knowles has always been it takes a couple of years,

765
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: sometimes three years before his system really you know, starts

766
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: to click. Well, no one wants to wait that long

767
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: because we've got a quarterback battle. Here is George McIntyre

768
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: and is phase on Brandon. And the whole thing with

769
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: Phase on Brandon is, if not now, eventually, but their

770
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: overall in a position where it's so clear when you

771
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: look at their team profile, twenty twenty seven should be

772
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: a huge year for Tennessee. That's so clear. The question

773
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: is how fast could they run in twenty twenty six. Now,

774
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: Josh Hipel does not think this way, but I'm thinking

775
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: about twenty twenty six as a build year, you know,

776
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: like a tee in it up year, like a building

777
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: up to max speed year. Sometimes you just get out

778
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: of the gate a little bit quicker than folks thought

779
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: you would, and the year before ends up being the year.

780
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: So that's what we're watching quarterback battle obviously, but outside

781
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: of that, that's what I'm watching with Tennessee South Carolina.

782
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: Is it's tough at South Carolina right now. Both offensive

783
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: tackles are out for spring. One of them is out

784
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: for the year. Thompson I think is out for the year.

785
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: Carrious Peak was the transfer from NC State and a

786
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: great player man like a big time portal edition and

787
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: promptly gets hurt. I think in conditioning work in February.

788
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: Now they think they'll be able to get him back.

789
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: Chane Biemer has said as much, but he's not active

790
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: for the spring. Now. That's not a young player, so

791
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: it's not that this work is absolutely critical for his development.

792
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: But these offensive linemen, man, they always talk about how

793
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: different things are, how different practice reps are. Now Kublick's

794
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: come on the show and talk about it, talked about

795
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: it a lot. So don't love that my new tackles

796
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: missing spring? Is there another two or three pass catchers

797
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: behind Nick Harber for that matter? Here's what I'll be

798
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: looking for broad stroke here community. How many things are

799
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: fundamentally different than this time last year, because last year

800
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: led to four and eight, So how many things are

801
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: fundamentally different? How many things have fundamentally improved about South

802
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: Carolina football this year as opposed to last year? Spring, guys,

803
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: it's I know that, I know. Christmas is supposed to

804
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: be the most wonderful time of the year. All I'm

805
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: saying is we need to consider March second secondarily to

806
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: the start of the season itself. But I have so

807
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: much optimism. Those teams I just listed, they're all undefeated

808
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: right now, not a loss in the whole pack. Fort Worth,

809
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: Texas is tuned in Morgantown, West Virginia is tuned in Arkadelphia,

810
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: Arkansas is also tuned in. Appreciate you, guys. If you're

811
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: watching live, the drive to a million subs continues, Please

812
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: subscribe to the channel if you haven't already. Now to

813
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: off the field matters, but they will eventually impact on

814
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: the field. So Friday, I know a lot of you

815
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: probably noticed that there was this whole roundtable thing in Washington,

816
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: d C. As it relates to college football Friday, and

817
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: there were a lot of people there and everyone had

818
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: an opinion on it. Did a lot get accomplished there? No,

819
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: I would say probably not. I didn't pay a whole

820
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: lot of attention to it. Truth be told, I still

821
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: haven't listened to any of the sound from it, And

822
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: the only reason I'm going to talk about it on

823
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: the show is because there was something that happened that

824
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: had very little to do with that roundtable that I

825
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: think is of utmost importance. So the roundtable itself performative, eh,

826
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. Most people there didn't even speak. There

827
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: was no athlete representation there, So yeah, it was pretty

828
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: obvious not a lot was going to be accomplished. Now,

829
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: not a lot's going to be accomplished on camera versus

830
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: not a lot being accomplished behind closed doors, or two

831
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,959
Speaker 1: different things. And we can't talk about what happened behind

832
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: closed doors because we weren't behind them and we're not

833
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: Ross Dellinger. So that's not where my focus was. My

834
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: focus was not on that roundtable at all. My focus

835
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Speaker 1: was on the other drumbeat that I'd been hearing for

836
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: the better part of the last month, but specifically the

837
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: last two weeks. And that's why you'll notice on the

838
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: show last week I did not talk about the roundtable thing,

839
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: but I did talk about something else. You notice I

840
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: talked about the pooling of the media rights, which is

841
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: kind of a boring topic, so it's risky to talk

842
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: about it on the show. But I promised you then,

843
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: and I'm going to promise you now that it's going

844
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: to end up mattering for you as a college football fan.

845
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't care about administrative types. I don't care about

846
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: network executives. The stuff they're caring about right now does

847
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: not matter for nine to nine point nine percent of us.

848
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: So I'm not wasting time on the show talking about that.

849
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: But I will invest time talking about matters that we

850
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: actually care about. So show me the Dellinger tweet. So

851
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: Ross Dellinger is in Washington, DC and he's covering all this.

852
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: But also, Ross Dellinger had a report on Friday, and

853
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: it's on the screen right here. He said, hey, for

854
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: the first time a Republican and Democrat Senators Eric Smitt,

855
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: and I believe it was Cantwell, the text is small,

856
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: so I can't read it. They've agreed on legislation to

857
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: amend the Sports broadcas Casting Act of nineteen sixty one

858
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: to permit conferences to pool media rights. Their staffs tell

859
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: Yahoo's Sports sounds like sounds like filler. Doesn't It just

860
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: sounds like word salid. It's not. It's first off, when

861
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: you've got a bipartisan bill being brought to the Senate

862
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: floor in this day and age, it is not word

863
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: salid at all. This is the deal. This is the

864
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: deal I'm paying attention to, not the roundtable. The whole

865
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: pooling of media rights is a thing I'm fascinated by,

866
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: and it's a thing that I have said before and

867
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: I'll say again. Let me very clearly restate my opinion

868
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: on this. This whole concept of pooling college football media

869
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: rights I think will be met with super majority support

870
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: once it's articulated properly and once everyone understands that. And

871
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: I'm especially talking about college football fans and fans win

872
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: for basic reasons. So you and I do not pocket

873
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: a dime from broadcast rights deals. We don't because we're

874
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: not networks. So some of the things that maybe a

875
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: network executive would care about, we don't particularly care about.

876
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: But what do we care about as college football fans. Well,

877
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: I wrote down three things I care about scheduling, which

878
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: this absolutely addresses, and I'll get to it in a second.

879
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: I care about variety and texture, of coverage, so the

880
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: way the sport is covered itself. And I would love

881
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: to erode the silo model that college football has sort

882
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: of worked its way into. And that's the thing where

883
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: one network has a TV deal with one league, so

884
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: they kind of only promote that one league or only

885
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: talk about that one league, and then overhear another network

886
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: copy and paste with another league. And it's so dumb conceptually,

887
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: because what you should have is you should have all

888
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: the networks in business with college football. That's the way

889
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: I said it, in business with college football, not in

890
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: business with one conference. So in my more utopian world,

891
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: which believe it or not, is feasible, it would look

892
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more like the NFL strictly from a

893
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: media rights perspective, and that if I'm an Eagles fan,

894
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play probably most of my games on FOTS

895
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: because I'm an NFC team, But I'm also gonna play

896
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: on ESPN. When i play on Monday nights, Sunday nights,

897
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play on NBC. I go play in someone's

898
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: house that is in the AFC, I'm gonna play on CBS.

899
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: Most likely, I'm gonna play probably an Amazon game, but

900
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: The point is, because all the teams are playing on

901
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: all the networks at some point during the year, the

902
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: networks have it in their best interest to promote the

903
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: NFL because they cover the NFL, they don't cover one

904
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: specific league. Likewise, all of the networks have a piece

905
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: of the Playoff Media Rights Pie, which means it's in

906
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: their best interest to promote the NFL playoffs instead of

907
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: college football. Right now. NBC he doesn't have a playoff game.

908
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: Fox doesn't have a playoff game, so the season kind

909
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: of ends for them at the end of the regular season.

910
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: Why would they waste time promoting anything beyond that, Well,

911
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: they don't because it doesn't make financial sense for him

912
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: right now. It doesn't make business sense. But also from

913
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: a fans perspective, and this is kind of just me talking,

914
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: I think most people would agree with me on this,

915
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: but you can let me know if you don't. I've

916
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: always thought that the coverage gets a little stale when

917
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, if you're an Ole miss fan, or you know,

918
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: if you're a Michigan fan, the same network and therefore

919
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: the same broadcast teams are just going to cover your

920
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: games over and over and over again. If I want

921
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: that I can listen to my home radio broadcast. I'd

922
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: love a whole lot more variety and coverage. Now that's

923
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: me personally talking, but I tend to think from the

924
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: comments and the feedback we've gotten on this, we've got

925
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: like super majority support on that. Now, that concept, the

926
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: pooling of the media rights. If you don't understand a

927
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: thing about this, just understand the entire thinking behind this

928
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: is everyone's cry and broke. Everyone's yelling broke, Everyone's freaked

929
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: out that they're running out of money. So everyone's yelling

930
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: about problems. Right, So there's a group that comes along

931
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: and says, well, we think we have a solution. Now,

932
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: As is typically the case in society, the group that's

933
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: yelling about all the problems, when met with a suggestion

934
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: for a solution, just take it upon themselves to shout

935
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: down the solution or the suggestion and talk about why

936
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: it won't work. Now, what's their idea, what's their alternative?

937
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: Don't have one? So to be clear, the thinking here is, well,

938
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 1: if you were to amend the Sports Broadcasting Act, which

939
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: is boring, and you don't even need to understand how

940
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: that works, but understand if it's amended that means college

941
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: football can then pool their media rights and there's just

942
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: one college football media deal and all the networks and

943
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: maybe even some of the streaming giants get cut of

944
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: it through the same process that they always would they

945
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: bid on it, And probably what ends up happening there

946
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: is the SEC and the Big Ten are still the

947
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: biggest revenue conferences. So the SEC in the Big Ten

948
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: probably still decide to a large degree how it gets

949
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: divvied up. But everyone makes a lot more money. Now,

950
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: there are some pushback, there's some pushback on that. There's

951
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: some different schools of thought on that. I have talked

952
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: to some really really educated people in my personal industry,

953
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: but also as part of that push I am firmly

954
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: convinced that there is a ton more money to be

955
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: handed out by pooling media rights than there are right

956
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: now in the silo approach than there is right now

957
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: in the silo approach. But picture this, all right, everyone

958
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 1: makes more money. Therefore you can fund your non revenue

959
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: generating sports. More money ultimately flows to the athlete. Now

960
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: you may listen to that skeptically and say, oh yeah, right, no, no,

961
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: it's gotta work that way, or else you're never going

962
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: to get the supported in Congress to pass this to

963
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: begin with, so you've actually got to have it papered

964
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: where it works that way. But think about that waterfall financially,

965
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: all right, think about how everyone makes more money, everyone

966
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: including the Big ten in the SEC, make more money.

967
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: And then understand the majority pushback on this is going

968
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: to be from the Big two, from the SEC and

969
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: the Big ten, and that is because, yes, while everyone

970
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: may make more money in the aggregate, you relinquish a

971
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: lot of the control you have over the sport right now.

972
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: And if I'm Greg Sanki and if I'm Tony Petiti,

973
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: look it's not my job to run college football. It's

974
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 1: my job to run my league. And so you may

975
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: not like it at home, but those guys aren't going

976
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: to sit here and just voluntarily say yeah, absolutely, man,

977
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: we'd love to relinquish a lot of the control that

978
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: we have and a lot of the overall market share

979
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: that we have on this sport to help out the

980
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: Big twelve. Of course, we'd love to do that. That's

981
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: where the question becomes, what does it take to get

982
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: what you guys are asking for? You know, the SEC

983
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: and the Big ten are in Washington, and when they're not,

984
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 1: their lobbyist rup there every week and they're looking for

985
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: congressional intervention so that they can get their antitrust exemption,

986
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: so they can create rules and they can implement them.

987
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: And anyone with a fully functioning brain is looking around

988
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: right now and saying, number one, you're not getting it

989
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: the way you want it, So then number two, if

990
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: you want to get it, you're probably going to have

991
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: to traffic somewhat in this kind of idea. And then

992
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: over here in the world of collective bargaining, and if

993
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: you give enough in Compartment A and Compartment B, then

994
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: maybe finally congress over there in Compartment C, Ben's enough.

995
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: So that's where my mind is on that right now.

996
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: It's been fascinating. I could lead every show with it,

997
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: but I think we would just completely light our numbers

998
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: on fire because I think I find it more interesting

999
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: than the audience. But the scheduling piece of pooling the

1000
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: media rights, I think that's something people would go crazy

1001
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: for if it was articulated properly, and if it ever

1002
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: even stood a chance of happening. Let's move on football games.

1003
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about fotball games. Well, Isaac from Miami said, Hey,

1004
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: what games are you looking forward to the most in

1005
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six? Maybe not the best games, but the

1006
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: ones that have caught your eye. I'm glad you said

1007
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: it that way, because we'll do just our top ten

1008
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: biggest games of the year later in the spring. But

1009
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: how do you not point out lsu at Ole miss

1010
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: in week three? There are no notes needed on this, really,

1011
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: I can give you some, but this is lame Kiffen

1012
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: and a brand new team rolling into the venue of

1013
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: the team that didn't fire him, the team he chose

1014
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: to leave. He chose to leave him even as they

1015
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: were going to the playoff. He chose to leave him.

1016
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: And that guy right there, Pete Golding took over, and

1017
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: Pete Golding as much praise as he got for sort

1018
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: of grabbing the wheel and then even hitting the gas

1019
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: a little bit after he grabbed the wheel there in

1020
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: the playoffs. There'll be a lot of folks who doubt

1021
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: Pete Golding. All right. It's one thing taking the stick

1022
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: in mid air and just making sure the plane keeps flying.

1023
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: It's another thing to pull the plane away from the gate,

1024
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of pull it out on the tarmac and take

1025
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: it off and then land it. That's a full coaching job,

1026
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: and no one's seen Pete do it yet, So I

1027
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: guess if you want to call that doubting him, everyone

1028
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: gets doubted until they've done it. And so Lane goes

1029
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: in there week three, pure theater. It's going to be unbelievable.

1030
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: Oregon at Ohio State's much later in the season, but

1031
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: that one's got to be one two. Oregon goes to

1032
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State in week ten, and there are two monster

1033
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: games in week ten. This is one of them. By

1034
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: this point. Look at that schedule for Ohio State by

1035
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: this point in the season. By week ten, Ohio State

1036
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: has already faced Texas on the road, Iowa on the road,

1037
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: Indiana on the road, and USC on the road, and

1038
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: they play Southern cal the week before Oregon. So a

1039
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: nice little six thousand some odd mile round trip there.

1040
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning's way versus Ryan Day's way. One of the

1041
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: things I always say about matchups of top five caliber

1042
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: programs is if you're a top five program, that means

1043
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: you've got the resources to do anything any way you want.

1044
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: So your philosophies, your roster building, your portal strategy, you're

1045
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: hiring strategies. You get to choose how you do it all.

1046
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: There is no inadequacy that forces you to Oakland A's

1047
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: your way to a win circa two thousand and four.

1048
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: You get to do it any which way you want.

1049
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: And anytime these big time programs face off against each other,

1050
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: it's like competing worldviews, it's competing cultures. You remember they

1051
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: played out in Eugene two years ago and is unbelievable, amazing,

1052
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: and then they played again in the Rose Bowl and

1053
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: it was a splattering and they didn't play last year,

1054
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: right Jesse No, So this is the next time that

1055
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: we will have seen him face off. That one will

1056
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: be awesome. The same day, probably later in the day.

1057
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: If I had to guest, kickoff times Miami at Notre Dame.

1058
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: So we get Oregon Ohio State, and we get Miami

1059
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame in week ten. This is a regular

1060
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: season super Bowl for Notre Dame. Not a must win,

1061
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: but it's a regular season super Bowl. It's a rematch

1062
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: of the game they lost down in cole Gables in

1063
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: Week one of last year. And this is not an

1064
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: early season game. So this is Miami on the road

1065
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: in South Bend. Later in the year, little more crispness

1066
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: in the air. You know, maybe, dare I say some

1067
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: long sleeves in the crowd, especially from the visiting fans,

1068
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: but elite rosters. You got Miami knocking on the door

1069
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: of winning a national championship a year ago, you got

1070
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: Notre Dame favored to win it all. This year, Miami's

1071
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: favored to be right back in the mix. This is

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00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: what people like me live for. I know a lot

1073
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: of you guys feel the same way. I get more

1074
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: jack thinking about regular season matchups like this than I

1075
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: do the playoff. I get more jack thinking about this

1076
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: than I do the National championship game. Because this thing

1077
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: is gonna be played in South Bend, Indiana, not in Glendale, Arizona.

1078
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: All due respect to the Fiesta Bowl, find people out there,

1079
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: but it's a little bit different. In the regular season.

1080
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: Week six is a big one too, so kind of

1081
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: like Week ten. There are a pair of massive games here.

1082
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: Red River Shootout known by no other name on this show.

1083
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: The Red River Shootout is in Week six, Oklahoma, Texas.

1084
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: The Cotton Bowl, the real one, the one that God built,

1085
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: not the one that Jerry Jones built. Love it. It

1086
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: has become my favorite rivalry game to go to. I'm

1087
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: normally an anti neutral site guy. This is one of

1088
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: very few exceptions where I would just bake it into

1089
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: the college football constitution that it has to be played

1090
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: here forever. Oklahoma will have already played at Michigan and

1091
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: at Georgia by the time this game happens. Texas will

1092
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: have already played Ohio State and at Tennessee by the

1093
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: time this game happens. As is customary, they both come

1094
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: off a bye. It's an early game too, so it's

1095
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: an early bye week. We only got one by for

1096
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: everyone this season. The setting is immaculate. I have sold

1097
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: the setting of the Cotton Bowl more than the committee

1098
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 1: itself has, and I'll do it as many more times

1099
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: as they need me to. And the one thing that

1100
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't really think anyone knows, Jesse, I don't know

1101
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: that I've told this show or this story on the show.

1102
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: At the Cotton Bowl. Obviously, it's just wide open and

1103
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: most of the time it's sunny, fairly warm, and they

1104
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: have the corrals. You know what a press corral is.

1105
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: The most people know what a press corral is, so

1106
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, if you're watching on TV those little triangle

1107
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: things that are on the ground and they're like they

1108
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: line the sideline. There's normally advertising on them. They're orange.

1109
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: If there's not advertising on them. They're made of the

1110
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: same stuff like the pylons are made of. Well, those

1111
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: are on the field to keep the press, to keep

1112
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: the photogs off the field and everything. So when everything

1113
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: empties out after this game, they pull those press corrals up. Well,

1114
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: the cotton Bowl is low key infested with locusts. Again,

1115
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change a thing about this place. I'm just

1116
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: saying funnel cakes and locusts. That's what the cotton Bowl does.

1117
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: And these locusts hide under the press corrals to survive

1118
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: the sun. Then when they pull the press corrals up,

1119
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: there's like a thousand of those things that have been

1120
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: enjoying the damp shade for three or four hours and

1121
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: then they get exposed to the light and then they

1122
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: all die. But it takes like a minute. And sometimes

1123
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,959
Speaker 1: in a former life, some of us are doing stand

1124
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: ups on the field and you're live on the air

1125
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: on network and you got locusts all around you, and

1126
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: some of your staff may be a little more squeamish

1127
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: about those sorts of things than you are. So look

1128
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: many different reasons to look forward to ou Texas. That

1129
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: was just one more. That same day, probably later that night,

1130
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: Georgia goes to Alabama. Georgia and Alabama, for states that

1131
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: touch each other, didn't play regularly for a long time,

1132
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, it feels out they're

1133
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: playing every five minutes. So two years ago, Georgia goes

1134
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: to Tuscaloosa the Ryan Williams Game till they lose, and

1135
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: then Bama goes to Georgia last year the Ty Simpson game,

1136
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: but then the rematch in the SEC title game, total splattering.

1137
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: And now they're going to play again, this time in Tuscaloosa.

1138
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: And I just can't help but remember the last two

1139
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: regular season games these two teams have played. I can't

1140
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: help but think about how high the stakes have been

1141
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: every time Kirby's faced Alabama, and that was while Nick

1142
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: Saban was there, and then it's been that way since

1143
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: Nick Saban was there. So that's gonna be a big

1144
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: doubleheader day there in the SEC. And I wanted to

1145
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: mention one big twelve game, and it's early. It's week three.

1146
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: Houston goes to Texas Tech in Week three. Obviously, Texas

1147
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 1: Tech is gonna be the overwhelming favorite to win the

1148
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: Big Twelve, and they were last year and they did

1149
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: and there will be again, And we're just trying to

1150
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: scan the landscape. Is there a sleeper, is there an

1151
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: outright contender? Is someone gonna be able to match Texas Tech? Well,

1152
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: we happen to think that Houston is a pretty good

1153
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: sleeper candidate. Well, we get to find out because they

1154
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: play him early on in the year. New roster for

1155
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. There's a lot of continuity at Houston, so

1156
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,959
Speaker 1: they're gonna take that operation on the road. They're gonna

1157
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: get to measure themselves against Texas Tech. Remember Brigham Young

1158
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: winning there last year? It was a big game day environment.

1159
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: Game Day was literally there and Texas Tech wins. But

1160
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: that was just round one. Then round two was in

1161
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: the conference title game. Could that be the way this

1162
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: game plays out? This will go a long way and

1163
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: just explaining what the landscape of the Big Twelve is

1164
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: at the very least. So those are one, two, three, four, five,

1165
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: six games I'm looking forward to. We could have gone

1166
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: all night. Immunity. We had a very unique question in

1167
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: the Paate State mailbox. Bradley Check said about once or

1168
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: twice a week, will from down in Florida. He said,

1169
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: I was watching you describe Florida the other night. I'm

1170
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: the kid who wasn't old enough to experience urban Meyer

1171
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: and that era at Florida from your perspective, what was

1172
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: that world? Like? Awesome? Maybe my favorite era in the

1173
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: history of the SEC. So urban Meyer was at Utah

1174
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: and at the time, everyone looked at it as this

1175
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: good story in the South, Like I'm growing up in

1176
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: the South. At this point, everybody in the South looked

1177
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: at urban Meyer at Utah and they were like, Oh,

1178
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: they don't play anybody out there, and this guy's getting

1179
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: hyped up, and oh wait, Florida just hired him. Wow,

1180
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 1: he's about to He's about to have that sharp dose

1181
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: of reality. It's sort of poured over his head like gatorade.

1182
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: And the overwhelming sentiment in the SEC when urban Meyer

1183
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: got hired from Utah to Florida. I remember it clear

1184
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 1: as day. The overwhelming sentiment in the SEC when urban

1185
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: got hired at Florida is, boy, the SEC is about

1186
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: to teach this dude lesson. And it was the exact

1187
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: opposite Urban Meyer came into the SEC and treated winning

1188
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: like oxygen. He fought for it like he was fighting

1189
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: for oxygen. And he was like that. And the best

1190
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: compliment that you can give a coach is you can

1191
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: see his thumbprint on every aspect of the program because

1192
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: everything about Florida operated the way Urban operated, for better

1193
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: or for worse. I know, in hindsight you can talk

1194
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: negatively about all the off field issues they had, But

1195
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: I was asked what it was like in the moment,

1196
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: and what it was like in the moment was it

1197
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: was like a hurricane hit the SEC, and everything from

1198
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: recruiting to the way practices worked down there, the way

1199
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: that they played, the energy, the tenacity, and the effort.

1200
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: It was. It was like the conference discovered a different

1201
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: level that you were capable of playing at that they

1202
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: hadn't hit. And it took an outsider coming in. So

1203
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: that's a little shot to the pride of the SEC

1204
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: because an outsider comes in didn't even grow up in

1205
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: the South. Now, it's not like he was coming home.

1206
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: It was an outsider and he came into the SEC

1207
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: and reshaped the SEC and they won the title in

1208
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: six and they won the title in eight and dude,

1209
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: I know it didn't go for fifteen or twenty years,

1210
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: but the Urban Florida teams at their best, like that

1211
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: was a white hot star and when it burned, and

1212
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: it burned for a little while, it burned as hot

1213
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: as any team had down there in a long, long time.

1214
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: So what happened, well, Nick Saban happened, That's what happened.

1215
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: But there's another school of thought on that. I'll get

1216
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: to it in a second, because I buy into the

1217
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: first more than the second. Well, let me go spoil

1218
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: it for you. The second school of thought is people

1219
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: think that they just burned it at both ends and

1220
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: they cut corners and that's why they had a ton

1221
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: of off the field issues and the culture sucked and

1222
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: it was very, very cancerous, and so it sort of

1223
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: rotted from the inside out. And once Tebow left, starting

1224
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: with that twenty ten team and beyond, they were never

1225
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: going to resurrect it, even if he had stuck around.

1226
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: You may be right on that. I think I articulated

1227
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: that pretty well. I know I made it seem like

1228
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: I feel that way. Hey, the culture went perfect. The

1229
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: competitive culture was off the charts, but yeah, they had

1230
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: a Ton off field issues, but Nick Saban coming to

1231
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: the SEC in two thousand and seven and then subsequently

1232
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: taking Bama to the SEC championship game in eight and

1233
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 1: nine and facing Florida those two years. This is where

1234
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: I love questions like this. You know, I was lucky

1235
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: enough to be growing up in this era. I'm telling you,

1236
01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: I've never experienced anything before or since those nine SEC

1237
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: championship games, Nick Saban and Urban Meyer. That Florida Alabama

1238
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: matchup in eight oh nine. I got blessed enough to

1239
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: be at both of them as a spectator because that

1240
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: was an hour up the road, so we always used

1241
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: to save up and buy SEC championship tickets. The Florida

1242
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: Alabama SEC championship games from eight to oh nine are

1243
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: the best atmospheres I've ever experienced in college football. It

1244
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: was the most off the charts, intense, insane environments that

1245
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: you've ever experienced. Goosebumps on the arm right now. I

1246
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: know these days, with the way the playoff is structured,

1247
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: people look at conference championship games and you think, oh,

1248
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: they're pointless or oh they've lost their luster. Well, buddy,

1249
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: this was not the playoff era. This was the BCS era.

1250
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: The SEC Championship Game in this era felt bigger than

1251
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: the National Title Game. You could argue that both of

1252
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: those years it actually was the national title game. Both

1253
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: of those years it was one versus two. And remember,

1254
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: this is the beginning of the Saban run. Urban's in

1255
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: the middle of his run at Florida. This is the

1256
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: beginning of the Saban run. So that eight team that

1257
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: was the first year that they were good. Saban was

1258
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: like seven wins this first year. But then they're undefeated

1259
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: I think regular season. They go to Atlanta, they lead

1260
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: Florida going into the fourth quarter, and Tebo just goes

1261
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: off and Florida wins the game. Florida goes on to

1262
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: win the national title, and then the whole next year

1263
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: it was one to two. The whole year. It was

1264
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: like looking ahead to a pro wrestling pay per view

1265
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 1: several months down the road. CBS. I remember they were

1266
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: like borderline promoting the SEC Championship Game well before it

1267
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: was mathematically decided. Everyone just kind of knew from media

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Speaker 1: days on it's going to be Bama and Florida again

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01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. And if Nick Saban's ever going to do

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Speaker 1: anything at Alabama, he's going to have to go through

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow and Urban Meyer and Tebo had the moment

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Speaker 1: they're in the swamp where everyone thinks he's gonna announce

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01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: he's going to the draft, and he goes, oh, by

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01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: the way, I'm coming back, so boom. That locks it up.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be the best team of all time.

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01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: Urban's got all these guys coming back from the National

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01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: championship team, and the build up for weeks and weeks

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01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: and weeks finally culminates on a Saturday afternoon in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Florida's a point spread favorite. They're number one, Bama's number two,

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01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: and Bama handled them pretty thoroughly. And that was the

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01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: changing of the guard. That was the moment that the

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: rope started to slip out of the hands there at

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Speaker 1: Florida because you're going for best of all time. And

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01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,959
Speaker 1: then the mantle just changes. I mean, Saban and Alabama

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: grabb the belt. They were off to the raizes. You

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01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: know what became of them. But then with Urban and

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01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: Florida still had a really really insanely talented roster. The

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Speaker 1: next year, Tebow's gone, and so you know they were

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Speaker 1: ranked highly. They went to Tuscaloosa the year after that

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01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 1: they go up. There's a primetime game on CBS, and

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01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: it was not really all that competitive. And then shortly

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Speaker 1: thereafter you got the whole health thing and he's gone.

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 1: And the Urban Myer era is done at Florida. So

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01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: it didn't go a long time, but man that period,

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01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: like five to twenty ten, sort of that time period,

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Speaker 1: Urban comes in and transforms the sec Saban just left LSU,

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Speaker 1: Miles takes control, he wins the national title. The Florida

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01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 1: LSU games are off the charts, insane. Then Saban comes

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Speaker 1: back to Alabama takes over. He has to go through Urban,

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01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: he has to knock them off the mountaintop and does it,

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: and then Urban leaves and then Bama's off to the

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Speaker 1: races for an extended period of time. And then in retrospect,

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Speaker 1: everyone remembers all the off the field issues, and you know,

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01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: anyone who's not a Florida fan looks at that era

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01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: completely differently than a Florida fan does the same way.

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: Michigan fans. We'll look at the whole Connor Stallions signs,

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01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: stealing hardball, controversy stuff different than outsiders will. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're a Florida fan, you don't really

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Speaker 1: care what outsiders think about your off field issues in

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Speaker 1: the late two thousands, just like Michigan fans don't really

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01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: care what Penn State fans or Ohio State fans because

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Speaker 1: they know they got to experience a championship, or in

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01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: Florida's case, a couple of championships. But man, it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I know that it's hard for it. It's hard. You

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Speaker 1: can't just like do the whole grab claw machine and

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01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: pick someone up and take them back in time. But

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Speaker 1: if you ever have free time and you just want

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Speaker 1: to go down a little bit of a rabbit hole,

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01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: go find the eight or the nine sec championship game.

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01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: Just set some time aside and just kind of lose

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Speaker 1: yourself in that replay. You can feel it. I mean

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01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: I don't have to sell you on it. You can

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01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: feel it. People are on the edge of their seat,

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Speaker 1: like their lives depend on the outcome of a third

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Speaker 1: and three. In a fourth and one, every first down

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01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: was magnified because I think they were the top two

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Speaker 1: defenses in the country too. So just man, so off

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Speaker 1: the charts intents. I have been to I don't know

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Speaker 1: how many dozen conference title playoff games have been to

1330
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 1: I think like every national title game since then or thereabouts,

1331
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: nothing has touched what those two games were like, and

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Speaker 1: Urban was right there at the center of both of them.

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Speaker 1: Next up, it's my favorite era to talk about. Someone

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Speaker 1: I notice you always start the show with high top Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Is there any reason why you chose that city as

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Speaker 1: And I said, Nashville, you say, okay? And I came

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Speaker 1: up here side unseen. Truthfully, I rented my apartment having

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Speaker 1: and we got in and we got set. Then it's

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Speaker 1: been Nashville ever since. Nashville is a really amazing place

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Speaker 1: to be right now. I listen to musicians because there's one,

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Speaker 1: So the musicians will always tell these romantic stories about

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Speaker 1: or come in here in the nineties, you come here

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Speaker 1: media world in Nashville because some of the shows you

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Speaker 1: that are eminent from here. There are heavy hitter outfits here, sports, politics, world, finance, obviously, entertainment, music.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we got so many different companies that are

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Speaker 1: It's an amazing time to be here. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: Lastly, and I regret to inform you I reached out

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Speaker 1: to a friend of the program and they have not

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01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: reached back out. The Nebraska Mood Tracker is on the

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01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: menu tonight. Now I'm not going to cancel it just

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01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: cause we hit up Compton and he didn't want to

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01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: return a text. But the Nebraska Mood Tracker is this

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01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: thing we do. We do it with every team eventually,

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01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: where we're trying to take a temperature of the fanbase,

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 1: trying to feel out how the fan base feels about

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01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: the prom the state of the program, where is it

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01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: right now? And I wrote down actually a John Mayer

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:09,799
Speaker 1: song title to describe the mood of Nebraska. I wrote,

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01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: the mood of Nebraska fans is waiting on the world

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01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: to change Matt Rule. First year five and seven, Matt rules,

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Speaker 1: second year seven and six. Here we go rule rule

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01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: year three. It's gonna happen, uh seven and six again.

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01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: So now we're entering year four under Matt rule. And

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01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 1: it's not a hot seat situation at all. In fact,

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01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: he was rumored to be the candidate for Penn State

1426
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: to the point where they feverishly worked to give him

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Speaker 1: a new contract extension and invest a lot more money.

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Speaker 1: So it's nothing like that. Now, if you add back

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01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: to back to back years of no more than seven

1430
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: wins at like Texas, that fire you. But Nebraska's in

1431
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: a little different boat right now, thus waiting on the

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01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: world to change. Once upon a time Nebraska ran this sport.

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01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: It's been a little while since then. They're waiting on

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01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 1: the world to change now. The quarterback situation, that was

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01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 1: a total reset moment. I don't even care if Anthony

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01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 1: Calandria works out. That wasn't the design. Okay, as recently

1437
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Speaker 1: as last year, we're looking at Matt Rooley's entering year three,

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01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: Dylan Riola is the future of this program, and then

1439
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 1: it's seven and six, and then Riola transfers, and then

1440
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: Kenny Minshew looks like he's gonna be the guy, but

1441
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: then he bolts and he goes to Kentucky, and so

1442
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: it's Anthony Calandria. And I know right now a lot

1443
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: of people are trying to build up a sense of

1444
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: confidence about him. Yeah, what else are you gonna do?

1445
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: Say we're gonna suck this year overscrewed twenty twenty seven

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01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 1: at the earliest, No, and look, that guy may very

1447
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: well be a better fit for their offense than Dylan Riola.

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Speaker 1: But The point is it was a reset and that

1449
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: this wasn't the plan. So you gotta admit you're kind

1450
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 1: of calling it on the fly right now, kind of

1451
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: trying to repair the plane while you're already in the air.

1452
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: And sometimes you can do it and sometimes you can't.

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01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: But they aren't dropping to the bottom tier. The thing

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01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: about Nebraska is, look, there's a floor year three, year

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01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: four and beyond. With Matt Ruhle at the helm, there's

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01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: going to be a floor that's high enough. They're not

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Speaker 1: at risk of falling to the bottom of the league

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01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 1: or even fall into Tier three, but they're a long

1459
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Speaker 1: way from climbing to Tier one right now. And you

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01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,799
Speaker 1: kind of wonder if it's like this permanent class system

1461
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 1: in the Big ten, because there is still a large

1462
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Speaker 1: gap between them and your Ohio State's and your Oregons,

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01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: and even Michigan last year came in there. I know

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Speaker 1: it was a close game on the scoreboard, but I

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01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: was there and line of scrimmage was not competitive. It

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Speaker 1: just wasn't. And physically you just wonder, okay, well, are

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Speaker 1: we in the process of moving towards putting together the

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Speaker 1: kind of roster and the kind of personnel that look

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Speaker 1: like that. Well, let's go to the paper. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the roster strategy is now. Look, I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: Matt Rule and company have a lot more firm grasp

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Speaker 1: on what they're doing than me. I'm not questioning them,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't get what they're doing. Because

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Speaker 1: recruiting per rivals the last four years twenty ninth, twenty fourth,

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Speaker 1: twenty first, ninety eighth, ninety eighth finished distantly behind the

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Speaker 1: likes of Purdue this past cycle. Okay, so what does

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Speaker 1: that mean? Well, in this modern age, that usually just means, oh,

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Speaker 1: they must have killed it in the portal, right, they

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Speaker 1: just they used up all of those resources in the portal.

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Speaker 1: Portal rankings last four years thirty two, thirty three, twenty two,

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Speaker 1: thirty two. So we're recruiting in the nineties barely. We

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