WEBVTT - Episode 75: James Bond 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:14.080 Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of Nerdificent time 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.560 your host, if you want, you wouldn't sit across from me, 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:21.120 as always heels Danny Fernandez. How's it going. It's going good? 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.560 If good, how's your week going? You know, I'm so 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.360 excited that I don't know when we decided collectively as 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.200 a people that September was October season. Yeah. Yeah, it 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:34.520 really likes Halloween is getting the Christmas treatment and that 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.159 they're just bumping. Because I was going through the store 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:41.080 yesterday and Naomi was like Halloween and I was like 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.440 what And it was all decked out with Halloween decorations 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.080 and I was like, all right, have her hang out 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:51.160 with her Danny. Yeah. No, she's really into hangs and 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.560 seeing Halloween stuff. And it's way cooler now because she 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:58.080 can vocalize the things that she needs, so it's where 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.680 it's it's easier to be can wait to take her 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.800 to her first real haunted house. I know she's like, 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.280 she's like definitely got the iffy scaredy cat jeans because 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.520 like there was a little like plushed which thing that 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.720 you could put on your porch and it's just like 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.200 a still thing. And I was like, oh, you want 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.399 to see it? And I pulled it down and she 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.680 was in the shopping cart and she like jerked backwards 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:21.200 like what is this what it was? And I was 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.200 like no when I poked it in the stomach and 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.760 then she was like, okay, I just I mean that's 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.120 good though, because kids can be really terrifying when it 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.160 comes to scary things. One of my friends was telling 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.800 me that his nephew would just be like the man 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:39.240 is back and just like point to nothing. This is 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:46.119 this is why I uriously like you. I remember when 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.040 she was a little she was like she was looking 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:53.000 in a corner where there was nothing and smiling and laughs. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.280 I was like, oh, there's that there's a ghostian ancestor 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:01.160 or something. Uh seguine in the world is way possible. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:07.160 I'm breaking on. Well. I wanted to be like, you 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:12.920 have kids, so you I was about the ghost. I 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.200 was gonna say, you two at the table have kids, 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:19.120 and I do not that. Other voices screenwriter and a 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.400 good friend of ours, Mark bernardin Hey, you know who 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.960 I blame for Halloween moving up Starbucks? Like it's all 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.160 that it's pumpkin spice. Yeah, and like they've been like 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.519 marching that up to the end of August. No, you'all 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.680 gotta slow down. But you're you're a spooky head, right, 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.680 like you're a horror person. Uh, let's okay. There's there's 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.520 a dividing line between me and horror which ends at 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.639 like the Ring. Like before that, like I was totally 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.200 down for it, like, give me all the evil dads, 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:48.959 give me the nightmre, I'm sure he's giving the Halloween's like, 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.560 give me all that stuff. And then the Ring happened 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.520 and I was like not having it. And then after 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.079 that I turned into like the biggest woos you've ever 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.440 seen in the world, to the point where like I 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.280 won't go you a movie in theaters. I went to 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.040 a birthday party at the at the Alamo Drafthouse over 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.320 the weekend and they've been having clowns only screenings and 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.000 I found myself an elevator with like a dozen clowns, 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.680 and like, have never been more concerned for my well being. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.200 That's so cool though, because at the AMC that I 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.919 went to to see it, it said no face paint. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:29.079 I'm like, you grinches, don't you even try this? Yeah? Yeah, 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.680 it's so funny because that's the same. I'm the same way, 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.200 won't see a scary movie, but now I do. Who 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.600 Shot You? Which is a movie podcast in there, And 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.200 now it's time for the second scary movie because I 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.520 had to see Scary Stories and now I have to 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.000 go see it, which I'm probably gonna see tomorrow morning. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.320 That's the way. Yeah, go in the day save just 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:56.200 like stand outside and like through the door. Yet no, yeah, yeah, 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.840 I watched the whole movie with like squinted through like 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.800 tiny eyes. Wow. No, just I'm an omega level was 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.160 when it comes to that for real, I remember you 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.840 told me I forgot what you said that you're like 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.880 going to some haunted experience that you have to do, 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:13.960 and I was I literally texted you back and was 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.440 just like, if you real life is much scarier than 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.880 so you're already prepped. You're like, no, I don't, I 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.719 don't need It's it's odd enough being like brown in America. 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.479 Everything is scary. Yeah, I don't need to, Like I 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.200 got my jolly and now you want to just watch 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:36.279 a rom com? Yeah, Mark, We've been starting our podcast 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.359 with what we're geeking out about this week, So what 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.080 are you seeking out about? Two things that have about. 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:46.680 The first one is um the Terror colon Infanty, Yeah, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.440 on on AMC, which I didn't see the first season 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:50.960 of Terror, but as I understand, it was a bunch 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.760 of like, you know, British dudes on a ship in 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.600 the middle of nowhere, like locked in by ice and 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.920 there's a monster whatever. This one is about like Japanese 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.040 interment camps us after like you know, World War two 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.440 kicks out, you just have to Pearl Harbor and it's 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.760 all about like there's a ghost haunting these particular people 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.080 in this particular time, in this particular place. And it 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:15.000 is so culturally specific to what it was like to 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.560 be a Japanese American when suddenly the country kind of 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:23.360 turned against you and the specific so the specifically Japanese 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.119 thing that's haunting them, you know. And so it's so 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.159 like just rich and vibrant with texture and and the 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.520 lived and feeling of this is what is haunting people 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.839 who now can't escape from where they want to be. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.760 It's it's phenomenal. It's so good. The other thing is 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.279 this reality show on Netflix called hyper Drive. Have you 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.440 guys seen this? I've seen the ad. It is like 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.840 like American and Ja Warrior, except it's with car okay, 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.039 and also these people own these cars, right, so it's 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:55.520 like so it's it's a bunch of like, you know, 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.160 you gotta go drifter on this track here, and you 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.479 gotta like drive up and do a jump off this 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.400 like lip giant cliff that's a balancing beam, and then 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.200 you gotta go hit these cones whatever. Every other run 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:09.359 is somebody destroying their own like forty dollar car and 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.400 it's like brothers Lamb beginning to do this crash. And 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.280 so it's both like the joy of watching really good 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.000 drivers be very good on the road. It's fast and furious, 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.520 and then watching like super entitled people wrap there like 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:26.880 like prestige elite motor cars around telephone poles. That has 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.920 to be such a liability though it totally is. That 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.119 would terrify me that like every episode someone might die. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.320 I mean, they're not gonna like die die, are you sure? 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.680 They're just going to kind of die and they're just 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.000 gonna ruin their life. I mean, it's like Nascar because 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.440 like somebody could die. They never do read but it's 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.640 just like, oh that guy, he deserves it because they 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.359 all because there's always like that camera interviews like my 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.800 name is Billy, blah blah blah blah. Hello, my name 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.480 is Finn. I'm from this gun to be whatever, and 0:06:57.520 --> 0:06:59.680 I've got my fancy God, I'm going to do this thing. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.360 I guess the douche bags are always the ones about 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.200 themselves around trees. Yeah, and it's always like the you know, 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.080 the the young drifter from Japan who's got his like 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.520 his dad's dots and that he's tuned up. It's like, man, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.000 I'm gonna win this thing, and he wins this thing. Yeah, 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:15.640 you know, yes, so I'm here. I'm here for both 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:21.560 of those shows. I'm very different locking into that. Well me, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.000 what I'm nerding out about is, uh yeah, I've talked 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:29.640 about Juno before. He's a horror manga writer and artist, 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.200 and they're actually adapting one of his books into an 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.920 anime for adult Swim, which you know normally I just 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.200 said how I don't like scary stuff, but I think 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.760 Junji stuff is more creepy stuff, except for the Supermodel 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:47.440 where that one is terrifying, but it's also funny and terrifying, um, 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.640 which you know, if if you haven't Juno, one of 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.800 his stories is this like model that this guy. He's 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.560 going through this book, this guy and he sees this 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.960 woman goes, oh, she's ugly. How is she a model? 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.520 This is so creepy and she's like he keeps starts 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.520 having nightmares of this woman and then he like throws 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.640 the book the magazine away. He's like, oh, man, he's 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.560 telling his friends about it. They don't believe him, and 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.880 he uh, He's like, man, uh, I can't you know uh. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.160 And he's telling the friends and he's like, I'm gonna 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.040 find the magazine and he can't find the magazine. It 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.720 was like, no, for real. She was horrifying. But they're 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:25.680 they're filmmakers, and so they're like they're looking for actresses 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.160 for their movie and then the lady sends in her 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.080 head shot and goes, that's that's her. That's the creepy woman. 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.320 And then they're they were like, all right, then we'll 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.800 just cast her, and he's like, no, don't cast her, 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.319 and it's like and so they do cast her and 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.400 it's really awkward, and um, they're driving out to the 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:45.440 woods for this shot and like one of them makes 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:48.680 a joke and like it's like shade towards her, but 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.720 she doesn't get it, and she laughs, and when she laughs, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.000 she opens up her mouth and she has these huge 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:59.240 giant teeth and they're like, yo, um did you see that? 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.920 And no one else saw it but the guy. He's like, 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.320 she has giant teeth. They're like, you need to calm down, 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.680 and it's it's yeah, you just need to calm down, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.360 and they're like no, and so like obviously, since they 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.920 like casted her for a gag, they're not really shooting her. 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.480 They're focusing on this model that they're real excited about. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:19.000 And she's like, why haven't you taken a photo from me? 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:20.400 And they're like, oh, we're gonna get to you. We're 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.439 just focusing on her. And then they're like and time 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.040 passes and they have lunch and they'll go where is 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.160 our lead actress? And a guy runs up covered in 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:33.760 bloods a guy, yo, she's eating the lead actress. And 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.360 they go to the woods and she has these giant 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.839 teeth and she's she's like covered in blood and she goes, well, 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.000 I guess you can focus on me now because you know, 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.320 because she's gone, and she just chases them and murders 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:48.160 them and it's like the only one of the very 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:53.080 few like horror horror Junjieto stories, because normally it's just 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.480 like more creepy, kind of Twilight Zone asque stories. But 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.360 that was the first one that was like, this is 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.840 terrifying funny, and so I'm excited for that coming to adults. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.920 So cool. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, it's definitely. But then 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.560 he also has a whole book dedicated to his cats, 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:15.680 like Wholesome, and it sounds like a cat person to 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:20.520 be honest, I love throwing shade whenever I can as 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.800 a dog person. The thing I'm geeking out about is 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.440 a book by Shelby Lorman. She if you follow her 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.080 on Instagram, you would know her as the account Awards 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.600 for Good Boys. If you don't, you need to. She 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.440 has like three followers. I found her. She's so hilarious. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.240 The book is Awards for Good Boys, Tales of Dating, 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.920 Double Standards and Doom. It's where she sarcastically gives awards 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.880 uh to the most basic things that you should do 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.880 in a relationship, like didn't man explain the you know 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.079 first four van Halen vinyls. I just made that up. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.960 But she's great. She's super funny and like everyone I 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.520 feel like in comedy follows her and it's awesome. So 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.360 check out her book. I think it just dropped or 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.760 else I'm just becoming aware of it. But also follow 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.600 her on Instagram. She's hilarious. Mean to be fair, diver 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:14.320 down is the best, really really the only reason I like. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.600 I am not you know, I didn't grow up in 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.640 the eighties, and so I don't Why are you laughing? 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.320 That's such a specific I didn't grow out, you know, 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:30.480 I'm not old. So people no, I feel people we 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.839 don't cuss. I'm gonna say they poop on me. I'm 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:37.160 not always knowing music from before my generation, but it's 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.400 difficult to have to know the music of my generation, 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.440 the music of the generation now, and the music of 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:45.240 past generations when it's just not my thing. However, a 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.360 very kind man I will say, he's a very nice 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.160 person that I dated is obsessed with Van Halen and 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.400 so I also named Mark, also named Yeah, let's just 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.719 also named Mark. I didn't even say his name. Let's 0:11:55.720 --> 0:12:00.280 just name him. It's part of the curriculum. Just make 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.160 all of us learn well. The thing about him. He's 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.440 so I think like one of his comedy albums had 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.520 a reference to it. But also we literally in our 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.520 apartment had a frame picture of Eddie van Halen, and 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.400 it was one of those things that he loved them 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.760 so much that it makes you want to learn about 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.560 them just because he was so you know, when someone 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.200 is so passionate that it like oozes out and not 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.160 like let me teach you about it way, but it's like, 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.240 this thing gives me so much happiness now, I I 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.040 feel that I tend to go the other way though, 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.920 Like my wife is a nut for the grateful dead. 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.720 I hate the grateful like with this crazy like burning 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.880 white out heat of a thousand sons And she's like, 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.959 you just gotta listen to an album, and I said no, 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:46.280 because I don't want. I just don't know every time 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.360 I'm not even kidding you. Any time that Jump would 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.440 come on and he of course listens to everything, but 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.760 like anytime that Jump would come on, he would get 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.160 excited in the car and like, dude, you have listened 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:01.160 to this song for thirty years, how is it still 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.640 so exciting to you? And that is the power of 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:09.880 Van Halen, for this man, very kind, nice man, and 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:16.880 you can just that that's going some documentary. Man, I 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.240 can have a day like whatever that day is, Man, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:20.760 it's the worst day ever had. You know what, Man, 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:26.440 I turn on hotfer Teacher and everything's better suddenly, and 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:31.079 it's making me the truest statement about him. Also, this 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.160 is hilarious, and we'll and we'll move on. But I 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.600 started doing cryotherapy while we were dating, and he wouldn't 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.680 try it. But Eddie van Halen goes to my cryoplace, 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.439 so all of a sudden that man was in there. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.600 And I also think Eddie was trying to undo the 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:50.640 years of drugging. It doesn't work. It looks great. He, 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:55.520 in my opinion, looks good. Um. But today we're talking 0:13:55.600 --> 0:14:00.640 about another man, another old white man. It looks pretty 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:04.040 good for his age all things considered. Yes, today we 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:11.400 are talking about the man the mystery, James Bond. James Bond. Um. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:13.840 So you know we're going to do the nitty gritty 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.120 that I always start with. This is the first time 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.560 the nitty gritty is very chunky, like usually, you know, 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:22.320 the nitty gree We just take the kind of synopsis 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:25.600 of the subject that kind of launches us into the discussion. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:30.520 But James Bond is it's a lot of gritty and yeah, yeah, 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:34.880 so Phil free to jump in. Commander James Bond cmg 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.840 R n VR is a fictional character created by the 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.040 British journalist and novelist Ian Fleming in ninety three. So 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.480 I guess I was not aware that he was first 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:51.320 in novels before the films. Yeah, now he was. He 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.040 he wrote like Ian Fleming wrote like two or three 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.600 books that he wrote. Um, I think Casino Royale and 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.120 like On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Dr No in 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.040 some version of that order, and and they were kind 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.760 of like they didn't go anywhere, like they're just gonna 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.600 hit the marketplace and they just kind of died. And 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:12.240 then um it it became like I think it was 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.880 John F. Kenny did an interview with Playboy magazine back 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.560 in the day and John F. Kenny was like, my 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:22.080 favorite books are James Bond books. And suddenly became, oh well, 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:25.400 if President screws a Lot really likes these books, then 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.360 there must be something going on in there. And then suddenly, 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.280 like boom, they became best sellers. Mark, are you telling 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:37.680 me that John F. Kennedy was the first influencer. I 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.000 think so I think I think he tagged up like this, 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:46.640 this is a paid post any of the original novel um. 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.960 I read like five or six of them. Um, they're 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:56.080 shorter than the movies. They are like crazy misogynist. I mean, 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.160 like that's that is that is they're very much a 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:04.200 product of their time in that like James Bond loved 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.560 Jamaica because Ian Fleming loved Jamaica like he would like 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.600 he would summer there or winter there or whenever he 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:14.600 can go there. And so like reading like gold Finger, 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.760 which is all set in Jamaica, and you're like, oh, 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:22.280 like it's kind of oh yeah, I mean like sure 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:23.840 like that we'll go to the Bahamas and that's gonna 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:27.480 be different. But you know, it's just like it becomes 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.560 he's got like a black buddy who's not really a buddy. 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.880 He's more like a waiter slash show for a slash valet. 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.400 And and every woman is kind of disposable, you know, 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.480 and it's it is, uh, bringing that to the modern 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.800 era is a challenge, I think is the And and 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.520 you see these James Bond movies as you go you 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:47.360 go back and look at the Sean Connerys, and they 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.960 still retain that vestige of of old school feelings about 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.560 masculinity and femininity. And then you get to Daniel Craig 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.600 and it's like, listen, you're gonna like have sex with 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.880 a lady, but it's not going to be as unfortunate 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:04.200 as it. Yeah, it seems like as it moved forward 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.800 in time, it went from the Bond girls to the 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.400 Bond girl, right, you know, I mean there would still 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.639 be the like does he have to like sleep with 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.919 like three women? Like? And there's always like the Bond 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:21.760 girl who dies early to his you know, adventure. I'm 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:25.600 really motivated now that now that I can't even remember 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:28.720 who she was, but she's dead and now revenge must happen. 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.280 And then there's like the good Bond Bond girl who 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.360 manages to survive the adventure so that she can then 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.800 sleep with James Bond before the closing credits. Ah, that's 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:41.159 the way that goes, which is not enlightened. Yeah. Just 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.159 a couple of things about Ian Fleming who created him. So, 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:47.679 he was a naval intelligence officer and while working for 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:52.200 Britain's Naval Intelligence Division during the Second World War, Fleming 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.959 was involved in planning Operation Golden I so we can 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.359 see where that came from. Also didn't know that the 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.359 first Bond novel was Casino Royal, and that is actually 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.000 my favorite Bond film. Really. Have you seen both versions 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.040 of Casino Royal? Oh I didn't see the original? Yeah? No, 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:14.600 the original is weird because it was men with Daniel Craig. 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.840 Yeah no, yeah, the original was like, there's James Bond 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.880 is played by David Niven, I think, and then there's 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.879 Jimmy Bond, who's played by Woody Allen. Oh boy, yeah, no, 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.159 this was the whole thing. I thought this was gonna be. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.040 When you said Jimmy Bond, I thought it was I 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.119 thought this was like apa man. No, I thought this 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:35.240 was an aquaman, an aqua. Lads, here's my boy, Jimmy. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.400 Can you go get him jim Bond. Yeah, no, it's 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:43.439 it's not good. Okay. So Casino Royal dropped. The novel 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:47.080 dropped April nineteen fifty three, So that was the first one. 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.679 That was the first James Bond novel. Um and so 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.000 Fleming ended up writing twelve Bond novels in two short 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.919 story collections, his final two being The Man with the 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.359 Golden Gun and came out in and octoples to see 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.879 Still Wild name I had Still Still Wild and the 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.080 Living Daylights that came out in nineteen sixty six. They 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.440 they used to and I think they might still do. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.200 They would always have premiers of those movies in London 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.320 and like Royal Albert Hall, and it was always a 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.640 thing where like the Queen and the Prince would come 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.280 to the screenings because it was a whole like it's 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:24.760 it's the biggest character that that ever came out of Britain. 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.760 You know. I think maybe Harry Potter might now be 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.080 like number two when they might be fighting for number 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.400 one at some point. But it was a national event 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.560 when a Bond movie would come out. And so the 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.880 in Goldfinger, they there's a character and gold Finger named 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:41.760 pussy Galore and so and they were very concerned about 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:43.399 whether or not they would like, can we put this 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.120 movie out with this character in pussy Galore? And then 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.359 when the Queen saw the movie and then went to 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.840 like the Broccolis who produced these movies, really look good 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.320 character pussy Galore, Like we got the Queen to say 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.439 pussy Galore in and like Octopussy is the name that 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.399 the Queen had to say, and I remember reading some 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:06.119 interview with Daniel Craig being somewhat concerned that the Queen 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.480 who would still go see Bond movies by the time 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.720 you got to casino Royale is going to watch him 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.240 get bashed in the nuts over and old held again. 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:19.680 But the Queen's watched my bollocks smashed in. I remember 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:23.959 that scene. Um, so I left to the left. Speaking 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:26.440 of James Bond, can you talk a little bit about 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:31.639 his his character? Um, I mean James Bond, Is he 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:34.520 is a well also that name, sorry because that's not 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.720 his name, right, Well, it kind of is, it kind 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:40.000 of is. There's there's two theories. The theory is that 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.520 like every every actor who comes in and place, James 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.040 Bond is playing the same guy, right, Like it's Sean 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.560 Connery and then it's it's George Lasenby, and then it's 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:51.439 Roger Moore, and then it's um Pierce Brosen and then 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:55.600 there was Timothy to be Dalton in there for a second. 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:58.720 They're just playing the same character as it goes. Or 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.560 there's the idea that James Bond is a code name, 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.680 like James Bond is that that goes with the double 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.600 O seven identity. Like there's there's nine agents who have 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.680 a license to kill, of which Double O seven is 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:11.320 James Bond is just one of them. And so every 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.399 time James Bond dies, somebody else takes that identity and 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.600 then moves on and does the things Revere doctor who 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:21.200 in that way, Um, But James Bond is uh. He 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:24.359 was an orphan. He was raised sort of, you know, 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:28.320 in in in something feeling like luxury but not quite um. 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:30.560 He joined the military young age, because that's kind of 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:32.960 what at least in this world orphans do. Um rose 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.159 up the ranks and then was sort of a blunt 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:38.280 instrument like he He was never like the spyiest spy ever. 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:40.119 He was never like I'm going to wear those awesome 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:42.560 suit and infiltrate because I almost shoot a bunch of 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.440 people and maybe punch him in the face a lot. Um. 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.040 And so he gets recruited into the into the Special Service, 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.840 which is the Double O Section, which there's one guy 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:52.879 named m who kind of calls all the missions, and 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:54.960 there's a guy in him Q who's his quartermaster and 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:57.000