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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds and Washington Post ABC News IPSOS poll

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Speaker 1: says Democrats have a fourteen point advantage in certainty that

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Speaker 1: they will vote in the midterms, the widest since at

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Speaker 1: least two thousand and six. We have such a great

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Speaker 1: joke for you today, talking FEDS. Harry Littman stops by

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Speaker 1: to talk about the interesting details of the DOJ hiding

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Speaker 1: a report that alleges trumpet sexual interactions with the minor.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll talk to Congressman Jared Moscow. It's about how

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Speaker 1: the public might be able to see more of the

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Speaker 1: Epstein files. But first the news.

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Speaker 2: Milly, I know last night you were like, I can't

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Speaker 2: believe how much I enjoyed President Trump's State of the

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Speaker 2: Union speech. You were just texting me feveredly like, yes,

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Speaker 2: these are the greatest moments of my life. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to shock you here to tell you since I

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Speaker 2: was being very sarcastic, that's how everyone else felt. And

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Speaker 2: this is the least popular speech of the century that's

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Speaker 2: been pulled.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this poll here. Donald Trump's State of

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Speaker 1: the Union speech least popular this century. Usually polls are

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Speaker 1: split like four ways or five ways, you know, disagree,

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Speaker 1: strongly disagree, you know, a neutral option, agree and strongly agree.

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Speaker 1: What happened here is that Donald Trump he has like

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Speaker 1: the haters. They're really strongly disagreeing, and his hater numbers

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Speaker 2: Would you say that this might be the haters and

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Speaker 2: the losers.

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Speaker 1: So voters are unconvinced that Trump will lower the cost

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Speaker 1: because he won't.

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Speaker 2: What was also really interesting is the c SPED dial

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Speaker 2: poll last night that tanked for him. Like people, even

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Speaker 2: the Republicans turned down the dial toy. We don't believe

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Speaker 2: that what do you say is true?

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Speaker 1: It was a speech where Trump did a lot of

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Speaker 1: his usual shtick, and the cost of living problems are big,

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Speaker 1: I think voters sort of understand that. Overturning the tariffs

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Speaker 1: the way the Supreme Court did gave Donald Trump an

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Speaker 1: off ramp, which he refused to take. Nearly two thirds

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Speaker 1: of speech watchers said they had at least a somewhat

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Speaker 1: positive reaction to Trump's speech. So remember those are, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Republicans, right, because most of the people who

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Speaker 1: So I mean, you're really seeing, like the speech and

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Speaker 1: the pulling all sort of reflecting the same sense, which

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Speaker 1: is that after a decade of this, even Trump's most

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Speaker 1: fervent folks are getting exhausted.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you wanted more proof about how unpopular he is.

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Speaker 2: During the State of the Union last night, Democrats won

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So they were special elections, as there are often

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Speaker 1: Mills polls much as well. But they both need to

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Speaker 1: So these are big wins for both of them. And

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've been seeing that consistently throughout the last year.

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Speaker 2: Since Trump was elected and goes along with a lot

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Speaker 1: All that's about to change, though, because the face of

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Speaker 1: this administration, that giddy young fellow, everyone's favorite FBI.

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Speaker 1: I was trying not to do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, what the FBI is always watching, BALI that's what

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Speaker 1: Yes, so the FBI, which has historically been headed by

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Speaker 2: Give you another pushbuck suit wearing j Edgar Hoover. I

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Speaker 1: The job once occupied by boring tall guy James call

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Speaker 1: This weekend, he took the jet to the men's hockey game,

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Speaker 2: When Charlie Kirk, who is a hero for them, was murdered,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and we keep seeing this again and again.

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Speaker 1: But when it doesn't work, everybody notices. And so we

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Speaker 1: the thing we've seen before too, with a lot of

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Speaker 1: be nonpartisan. Is because catching bad guys should not be

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Speaker 1: FBI does. That was not why Cash Buttel took the job.

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Speaker 1: He took the job to do cool shit like going

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Speaker 1: they couldn't get the planes because Patel had been engaged

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Speaker 1: out this is not all that different than what everyone's favorite.

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Speaker 2: That, you know, a legal deportation mascot has circled around

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one. I don't know as someone

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Speaker 2: I think that's a general vibe for her. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: So when we think of the woke leftist Marxist as

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Speaker 2: often think of that with that as Goldman Sachs. You know,

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Speaker 2: and then go, oh, this didn't help. These AI agents

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Speaker 2: Apple that also said nearly the exact same thing, which

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Speaker 2: is AI added basically zero to US economic growth last year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, in case you're wondering if AI is a bubble,

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Speaker 1: gold In Zacks says, yes, AI added basically zero, which

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Speaker 1: means the Donald Trump hockey video, one of the great

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Speaker 1: pieces of AI slop, is not adding to our economy.

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Speaker 1: I am shocked. It turns out that the AI revolution

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Speaker 1: is we don't actually view AI investments as strong growth positive.

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Speaker 2: You know. And I keep thinking of it's not a

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Speaker 1: Things are going great. Harry Littman is a former US

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Speaker 1: attorney in the host of the podcast Talking Feds. Welcome, Welcome, Harry.

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Speaker 1: We're having our Talking Feds fast politics matchup, mash up,

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Speaker 1: that Congressman Garcia, who actually we've all been talking to.

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Speaker 1: ranking member of oversight. James Comer is of course the

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Speaker 1: NPR and also our friend Roger Sullenberger. But there are

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Speaker 1: all of these missing files, and what we have is

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Speaker 1: but then the files are missing. Talk us through what

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Speaker 1: we're seeing with the Epstein files, and this is just

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Speaker 4: It's really true.

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Speaker 5: By the way, Good to be with you, Molly, mash

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Speaker 5: up excellent, excellent old culture reference. So look, here's the

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Speaker 5: important thing, Molly. These are the crown jewel kinds of documents.

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Speaker 5: When it came time to what has been revealed before,

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Speaker 1: I want you to explain exactly what a three tozho

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Speaker 4: You come in. You're a victim.

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Speaker 5: First of all, we saw in that horrendous hearing with

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Speaker 5: and the FBI agent sort of mechanistically writes down everything she.

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Speaker 1: And that's what a three to OO two and.

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Speaker 4: The three h two is that report.

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Speaker 5: So from the start we knew there'd be emails that

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Speaker 5: New York Times op ed shows the panoramic scope of

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Speaker 5: up sex trafficking. But these are the very memos that show,

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Speaker 5: was talking about Trump, and somehow mysteriously they've disappeared. It's

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Speaker 5: just one example NPR did its detective work. There could

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Speaker 5: be others, but this alone, Molly, are the very sorts

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Speaker 5: the victims tell you? What are the allegations? This is

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Speaker 5: the sort of document would use, for example, to build

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Speaker 5: a criminal investigation or whatever you would do with it.

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Speaker 5: But this is the real, you know, kind of money

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Speaker 5: documents of the of the pile.

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Speaker 1: And they're missing.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I think there's something like fifteen in

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Speaker 5: Apparently some others have been revealed to Congress, but the

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Speaker 5: have something happen in a state that's a crime.

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Speaker 4: New York's a great example.

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Speaker 5: They have a what's called the Martin Act that gives

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Speaker 5: them all because New York is the seat of so

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Speaker 5: much stock, the New York Stock Exchange and the like

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Speaker 5: that a lot of things that would be federal fraud

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Speaker 5: are also fraud there. And then it's also the case

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Speaker 5: a lot of these potential crimes are really kind of

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Speaker 5: tawdry and you know, sort of uh small in their

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Speaker 5: fact pattern, and if they took place in an individual state,

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Speaker 5: it's basically there are it's more the case than not, Molly.

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Speaker 5: I guess this is how I put it, that a

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Speaker 5: crime within a state's borders that has a federal statute

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Speaker 5: will have a state statute. So you know, it's both

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Speaker 5: that the facts took place there, so there's jurisdiction, but

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Speaker 5: then also at least certain states, new York pre eminent

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Speaker 5: among them, have ways, like the Feds have ways of

452
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Speaker 5: getting at things broadly. Even though the downstream impacts are

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Speaker 5: kind of nationwide because of how they originated.

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Speaker 1: Say your tiss James's office, you're working in that office,

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Speaker 1: you see a allegation, say you see a three or

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Speaker 1: two that's redacted, but not that redacted, So that means

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Speaker 1: you have a witness, you have a crime. Say you

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Speaker 1: have an unindicted co conspirators list. Can you make a

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Speaker 1: case from that?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the question exactly.

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Speaker 5: We're seeing this in Minnesota, where states normally would get

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Speaker 5: the cooperation of the federal government for the shootings of

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Speaker 5: Pretty and Good, and not only aren't they getting it,

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Speaker 5: the Feds are trying to actually impose obstacles and say.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to give you this name.

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Speaker 3: Were not.

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Speaker 5: So the answer is, yeah, you got to start from

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Speaker 5: scratch and develop it. You couldn't use the three to

469
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Speaker 5: zero two anyway, but it's now been made publicly available.

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Speaker 5: Lots of cases originate in public materials like what was

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Speaker 5: in the paper yesterday. But you've got to start from scratch.

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Speaker 5: So you got to find this favor. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: here's a big thing. If we're thinking about Epstein statutes

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Speaker 5: of limitations for certain sex assault crimes or murder, there

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Speaker 5: isn't one, but for a lot of the hijinks of

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Speaker 5: the sword you document again and then New York times

477
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Speaker 5: off bad. This statute would already have run. So lots

478
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Speaker 5: of procedural obstacles, and the Feds are going to make

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Speaker 5: it harder. But theoretically, yes, you just got to start

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Speaker 5: from scratch.

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Speaker 1: But the statute of sex crimes is there has been

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Speaker 1: extended in New York State.

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Speaker 4: That's right. Two things.

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Speaker 5: It had a window where you could bring claims that

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Speaker 5: had to do with then that's why Trump was also

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Speaker 5: charged with a crime in the e Gen Carrol case.

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Speaker 4: I think that was a narrow window.

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Speaker 5: But in general, sexual assault statutes of limitations sometimes go

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Speaker 5: forever because it's so often the case that the damage

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Speaker 5: or even the knowledge of it doesn't fully develop and

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Speaker 5: tell a victim is older. So for the sex crime jest.

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Speaker 5: But you know, your point is really important. I think

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Speaker 5: how he had such a network of different things. Andrew

494
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Speaker 5: has been arrested not because of this. That's that's also

495
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Speaker 5: the same behavior that the general counsel of Goldman Sachs

496
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Speaker 5: had to resign over a lot of that stuff will

497
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Speaker 5: be really hard to reach for. Statute of limitations reasons now,

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Speaker 5: but still have political salience.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly, all right, So do you have another question

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Speaker 1: for me?

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Speaker 4: So I want to switch to the refunds and the tariffs.

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Speaker 5: There's you know we're finding out now they're trying to

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Speaker 5: put it on other grounds, et cetera. I don't want

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Speaker 5: to ask about any of the law stuff, but I

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Speaker 5: think we can expect even though the Department of Justice

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Speaker 5: said last year, if this is struck down, we'll return

507
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Speaker 5: it all. Give me a break, they're going to impose

508
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Speaker 5: all kinds of obstacles. It could be you know, legal

509
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Speaker 5: tangles for years and years. As Trump said, I just

510
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Speaker 5: want to ask you politically, you know, what's going to

511
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Speaker 5: be the impact of people not seeing companies not seeing refunds.

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Speaker 4: How volatile an issue.

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Speaker 5: Is this if they just you know, never never give

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Speaker 5: the money back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So FedEx just soon today for the refunds. So

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Speaker 1: it is certainly possible that we see a real court case.

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Speaker 1: And look, you know, here's what's going to happen. Since

518
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court has said no go on the tariffs, Trump

519
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Speaker 1: has tweeted a lot of angry stuff, and since going

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Speaker 1: to be ten percent, and then it's going to be

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent. I think there's a scenario.

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Speaker 6: Where FedEx sues and Trump decides that he's going to

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Speaker 6: like push back in the court of public opinion, and

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Speaker 6: then the ADMIN is going to quietly settle, Like we've

525
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Speaker 6: seen that before, that admin quietly loses in court.

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Speaker 1: Trump loves the tariffs because they are a vehicle for kryptocracy,

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Speaker 1: because he can negotiate in a way that is kryptocratic

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Speaker 1: at best. I think I still think there's a scenario

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Speaker 1: where they lose in court and it doesn't matter and

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Speaker 1: he just keeps obfuscating.

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Speaker 5: Or then maybe FedEx but lather rents, repeat with the

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Speaker 5: other companies.

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Speaker 1: Fedick's a huge company, and they'll be more if they

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Speaker 1: sense that there's possible when this could be very bad

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Speaker 1: for Trump world. And again, I don't think that FedEx

536
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Speaker 1: is ideological. I think they're practical. So you know, this

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Speaker 1: is like a dumb It's not dumb because it's what

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Speaker 1: Trump wants. It does the thing that Trump wants it

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Speaker 1: to do. But I still think it could unravel the

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Speaker 1: whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's always fun. See you next month.

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Speaker 1: Than great to see you. Congressman Jared moscow Itz represents

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Speaker 1: Florida's twenty third district. Welcome, Welcome, Congressman Jared.

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Alli? How you doing?

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 3: Living the dream? Over here in Congress? Everything is great?

547
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Speaker 3: Why is there something going on? I s could know

548
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Speaker 3: about nothing?

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Speaker 1: Oversight it seems to be in a Twitter war with

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Speaker 1: GOP rapid response on Twitter formerly Twitter now acts the

551
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Speaker 1: Epstein files. Talk us to where you guys are with

552
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Speaker 1: the Epstein files.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, first of all, you know, the Overset Committee

554
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Speaker 3: is run by my dear friend James Comer.

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Speaker 1: That's right, a giant among men.

556
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Speaker 3: Yes, a man of many words, as you know, right,

557
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Speaker 3: He's only interested in transparency, of course, you know. And

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Speaker 3: now we find out there are fifty three pages missing

559
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Speaker 3: that the DOJ is holding back because it has stuff

560
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Speaker 3: in there about Donald Trump. We find out that there

561
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Speaker 3: are apparently boxes of documents around the country that Epstein

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Speaker 3: has hidden in all sorts of filing cabinets. We don't

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Speaker 3: know if the FBI has those are Now you know,

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Speaker 3: the members myself included, went over to the DOJ to

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Speaker 3: look at these unredacted documents, and they tracked what documents

566
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Speaker 3: we were looking at.

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You know, they spied on us so that they would know,

569
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Speaker 3: you know, how how to deal with it in committee.

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Speaker 3: You know, they have mismanaged this thing from the beginning,

571
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Speaker 3: even though this is what Dan Bongino and Cash Betel

572
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Speaker 3: why they wanted to come to the FBI, Right, Pam Bondy,

573
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Speaker 3: you know the here's the binder, the list is on

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Speaker 3: my desk. Then there's no lists. I mean, this was

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Speaker 3: their thing. And you know, then the President launched the

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Speaker 3: war on his own people, you know, saying that this

577
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Speaker 3: was a hoax, and you know it's a hostile act

578
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: if they released the files, and then of course after

579
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Speaker 3: they were forced to release it by all of Congress,

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Speaker 3: everyone in the House except one person, and the entire Senate,

581
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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, they were the most transparent

582
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Speaker 3: executive branch in American history. And so here we are

583
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Speaker 3: the drip, drip, drip. We continue to see it. You know,

584
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Speaker 3: we're seeing other countries arrest people, by the way, right,

585
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Speaker 3: we're seeing that happen. We're seeing in other countries people

586
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Speaker 3: lose their jobs. Here we haven't. We haven't seen that

587
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Speaker 3: account ability. You know, I know, the stuff about Howard

588
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: Lutnik came out, You know, we learned that wasn't true.

589
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Speaker 3: What he said. He barely knew and barely had, you know,

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Speaker 3: anything to do with him. You know, he went to

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Speaker 3: his house one time and he saw the massage table

592
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Speaker 3: and he said, I'm never going to be alone with

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Speaker 3: him again. And then we find out he went to

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Speaker 3: Epstein Island with his entire family and had business ties

595
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Speaker 3: with him. Apparently, you know, Cash Pttel told us Trump's

596
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: name barely in there, less than one hundred, right, and

597
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Speaker 3: then we find out it's in there like thirty eight

598
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Speaker 3: thousand times. Okay, you know, Cashpttel under oath says that

599
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Speaker 3: the only person who trafficked girls was Epstein, only to himself,

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Speaker 3: nobody else. Then we get the documents, we find out

601
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Speaker 3: there's co conspirators. We find obviously that he trafficked it

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Speaker 3: to other people, and we find out he had a

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Speaker 3: whole ring of people who were recruiting these girls, grooming them,

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Speaker 3: and where they were shipping him these girls from out

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Speaker 3: of the country. Just totally disgusting behavior.

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Speaker 1: When you went to the DOJ, were you able to

607
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Speaker 1: see things unredacted or were things still stuck with reactions.

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Speaker 3: There's a bunch of stuff that's unredacted, so we were

609
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Speaker 3: able to see that, But there are tremendous amount of documents.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I would say the majority of the documents

611
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Speaker 3: were still redacted, and they were sent into this electronic

612
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 3: system all redacted. They were sent to us redacted. So

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Speaker 3: when we look at them and we pump from the

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Speaker 3: redacted that I can't unredacted because they were scanned in

615
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Speaker 3: as redacted. We don't know what those documents are. We

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Speaker 3: have suspicions that some of those are the FBI.

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Speaker 1: Memos that were not TEO twos, Right.

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Speaker 3: Oh twos, that's exactly right. In fact, we have none

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Speaker 3: almost none of those. Almost all the three O two's

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Speaker 3: are still redacted. We think obviously that's where there's a

621
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Speaker 3: lot more evidence on how far and wide this goes.

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Speaker 3: And clearly now that we're seeing stuff about the president

623
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Speaker 3: that was taken out of the documents, hard to say

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Speaker 3: now that there's not a cover up going on.

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Speaker 1: I want you to talk about these. So when you

626
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Speaker 1: go to the DOJ to look at the documents, what

627
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Speaker 1: like the law is written in such a way that

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Speaker 1: it is Pambondi or whoever at the DOJ is supposed

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Speaker 1: to explain the reactions. So what happens when you go

630
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Speaker 1: to the DOJ and you say, like where?

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Speaker 3: Like sure? So, first of all, so you walk into

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Speaker 3: this building, which is more heavily guarded than the Capitol. Okay,

633
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: you eventually get in. They first allowed us to bring

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Speaker 3: a staff member. Okay. Then they said no more staff.

635
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Speaker 3: You can't bring a staff member. So we go in

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Speaker 3: by ourselves. We go all the way up to the

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Speaker 3: tenth floor. Okay. On the tenth floor is nobody. There

638
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: is nobody working on this floor. Everyone I guess is

639
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: either it was fired or they're working mobile, but there's

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Speaker 3: nobody there. They bring you into a room the three

641
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Speaker 3: or four people that are working the files. There are

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Speaker 3: four computers set up okay on a system that you've

643
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Speaker 3: never used before. There's a twenty five page manual next

644
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Speaker 3: to you, okay on how to use the system. Even

645
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Speaker 3: though you only have forty five minutes to go through

646
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: the documents, you have to disregard to the manual and

647
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Speaker 3: you have to learn in real time on how to

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Speaker 3: go through the system. The people there can't answer any

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Speaker 3: questions on why it was redacted, not because they can't

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Speaker 3: because they don't know. They are strictly technical people on

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Speaker 3: the system. If you want to know how to search

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00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 3: for something, you accidentally logged out, they'll log you back in.

653
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Speaker 3: By the way, every member has their own special login.

654
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Speaker 3: That's how they're tracking us. That's how I knew I

655
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: was being tracked before it was even I'm like, why

656
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: do I have my own login? Why do I have

657
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Speaker 3: my own password? What's the point of that? And so

658
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 3: it's a very cumbersome system. It's just a huge data

659
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Speaker 3: dump into this thing. You don't have enough time in

660
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 3: the world just to start opening things. You have to

661
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 3: be searching. So you have to have an EFTA number

662
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: from a document that was made public that was redacted,

663
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Speaker 3: and then you can go search for the unredacted version

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Speaker 3: of that document.

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Speaker 1: Wild Now, I'd love it if you would talk us

666
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Speaker 1: through Is there some recourse now? Because the administration has

667
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Speaker 1: technically broken this law.

668
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like multiple times. First of all, they didn't

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Speaker 3: give us the documents on time. Then they redacted stuff

670
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: they shouldn't have redacted. They unredacted names of victims that

671
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 3: were supposed to be redacted, They redacted co conspirators. Okay,

672
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Speaker 3: I mean so yeah, No, there's all sorts of things

673
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Speaker 3: that they've broken in the law. Although, because you know

674
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: this administration and they're so great to work with, they

675
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: then if you saw it, they released the name of

676
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Speaker 3: new people that are in the Epstein files, and they

677
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 3: put a bunch of people on the Judiciary Committee in

678
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: the files. Because now if there's like an email, you

679
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: know because you went and research that your name is

680
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: now in the file. So I'm apparently in the files.

681
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Speaker 3: So we're like, all the Democratic members of the Judiciary

682
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Speaker 3: Committee are now in the files.

683
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Speaker 1: Is there anything you can do at this moment? Like

684
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Speaker 1: can you hold these people in contempt? Is there like,

685
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: is there any protocol for like a lawless administration like this?

686
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Speaker 3: Or Now, well, I think you're gonna continue to se

687
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 3: information come out slowly, right, and then we're going to

688
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: continue to follow that. So we're gonna ask questions, we're

689
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 3: gonna have hearings. But Maley, obviously the real stuff's gonna

690
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: happen in January of next year. We can win the

691
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Speaker 3: win midterms of November, and how came Jeffries gets the

692
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Speaker 3: gavel mid January.

693
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Speaker 4: We're going to immediately.

694
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Speaker 3: Come out of the gate with these investigations, the subpoenas

695
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: are going to be written. Okay, on November tenth, all

696
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: of this stuff is going to be written and will

697
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: immediately be filed in the middle of January when I

698
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 3: as soon as I came holds that gavel up stuff

699
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: goes out the door, and it's gonna be all sorts

700
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Speaker 3: of investigations. Clearly, it's gonna be Epstein. Clearly, it's gonna

701
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Speaker 3: be the Katari plane, It's gonna be the crypto money, right,

702
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: It's gonna be the watches. Why is Donald Trump selling watches?

703
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Speaker 3: You don't have a ten thousand dollars Trump watch mom.

704
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Speaker 1: Now yet I'm waiting for a gift from the admin.

705
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, start with the Trump Bible and then upgrade

706
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Speaker 3: to the watch.

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Speaker 1: We've seen some Maga women do incredible things. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about Lauren Bobert, who ultimately sort of more

709
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Speaker 1: Christian than Mike Johnson saying.

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Speaker 3: That, wa wait, are you really gonna ask me, Jared

711
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Speaker 3: moscoits to talk about Lauren Bobert's Christianity? Is that really?

712
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Speaker 1: I am?

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Speaker 3: We're just appreciate about Christ. This is gonna go over

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Speaker 3: great with the wife. Let's go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just want to talk about like it

716
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Speaker 1: does seem like there are maga women in the House

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Speaker 1: of Representatives who are standing up for other women.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what I would say. I would say Lauren Bobert,

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Speaker 3: Nancy Mace, Marjorie Taylor, Green, Anna, Pauline a Luna. You

720
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Speaker 3: have seen the four of them now on multiple occasions.

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Speaker 3: When it's come to colleagues that are a colleagues of

722
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Speaker 3: mine that are involved in sexual harassment or sexual assault,

723
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Speaker 3: they've gone after their own Republican colleagues on that. And

724
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Speaker 3: when it's come to the Epstein victims, they have been

725
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Speaker 3: opposite Trump and the administration when it's come to the victims.

726
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Speaker 3: And so they've been doing that as a block. Even

727
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: when the administration, by the way, brought them into the

728
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Speaker 3: Situation Room in the White House, you know the place

729
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Speaker 3: you know that you know we've launched wars from and

730
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Speaker 3: the President goes for like national security briefings. They brought

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Speaker 3: these women members of Congress to the Situation Room to

732
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Speaker 3: scare them. First tried to buy them off with appropriations

733
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Speaker 3: and projects, and then threatened primaries against them to pull

734
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Speaker 3: their name off of the Massy Discharge petition. And they

735
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: held strong and told the White House they weren't going

736
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Speaker 3: to do that, and that's how we were able to

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Speaker 3: get to the two eighteen. We don't get to the

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Speaker 3: two eighteen without those women.

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Speaker 1: I've been really impressed by that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you like Lauren so much, you should

741
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Speaker 3: go to a play with her.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Moving on, hilarious, hilarious, Sorry, let's talk about what

743
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Speaker 1: it looks like right now. So Republicans have a one

744
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Speaker 1: vote majority in the House. We're in a sort of

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Speaker 1: partial government shutdown at this very moment. Do you think

746
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Speaker 1: there's a world in which this appropriation is dhs? I mean,

747
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Speaker 1: is there negotiation happening? And what does it look like?

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Speaker 3: There's no negotiation happening neither side obviously rightfully so on

749
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Speaker 3: our side, we're not going to give in on a

750
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Speaker 3: lot of these changes we want to see. By the way,

751
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Speaker 3: not only do I want policy changes, Molly, I want

752
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Speaker 3: Christy Noman to be fired. The idea that we're going

753
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Speaker 3: to agree to policy changes and expect Christy Nome Okay

754
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 3: to implement this makes absolutely no sense to me. So

755
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: she needs to go. She's the absolute weakest link to

756
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Speaker 3: the president's administration. If this was the show Apprentice, he

757
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: would have fired her long ago. I mean she took

758
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Speaker 3: his immigration issue, okay, which to help get him elected.

759
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Speaker 3: In August, he had a sixty percent approval rating on immigration.

760
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Speaker 3: It's now thirty nine percent. That's it's rarely because of

761
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Speaker 3: how Christinome has executed these immigration policies, what she's done

762
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Speaker 3: with Ice, the fact that American people being shot in

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Speaker 3: the streets of America, masked men just going around barging

764
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Speaker 3: into people's houses without warrants. Okay, this is all on

765
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 3: her and she should have already been fired, you know.

766
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Speaker 3: So you know, and then obviously as far as you

767
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: know where we're at. You know, look, I feel terrible

768
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Speaker 3: for the people who work at Homeland, whether they're in

769
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: FEMA or TSA or the Coastguard. I feel terrible for them.

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Speaker 3: They're caught in the middle of this. It's why I

771
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Speaker 3: support legislation that they should get paid while this is

772
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Speaker 3: going on. I support legislation at the FEMA emergency aid

773
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 3: should still go out while this is going on. They're

774
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: not willing to negotiate on any of this, Molly, So

775
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 3: right now it's going to stay partially shut down, and instead,

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Speaker 3: you know what they're gonna do. They're gonna try to

777
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: play games, okay, and they're gonna be like, oh, there'll

778
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: be no fast tsa line at the airport. They're gonna

779
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 3: try to make people's lives miserable, not because they can't

780
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: pay for it, because they're just going to do it

781
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: on purpose to try to put pressure on Congress to

782
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: make a deal. We sometimes because the security reason and

783
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: have to get escorts. Well, they've suspended all the escorts,

784
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: you know, exposing members of Congress to security risks. They

785
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: try to put pressure on us. That's not going to work. Okay,

786
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: none of this is going to work. The American people

787
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 3: watched this with their own eyes on TV.

788
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Speaker 1: ICE has billions of dollars, hundreds of billions.

789
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Speaker 3: They got one hundred and seventy billion dollars in the big,

790
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 3: beautiful bullshit of a bill. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So is there any world in which that money goes

792
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Speaker 1: to Homeland while this negotiation is happening. I mean, that's

793
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: like the interest.

794
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Speaker 3: Well, look, I don't know what Russ vought over at

795
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Speaker 3: Omb is cooking up over there. You know, he did

796
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: cook up Project twenty twenty five, which, of course the

797
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: presidence that he heard nothing about and then made the

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Speaker 3: author of the head of the O and B. Don't worry.

799
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Speaker 3: We haven't forgotten. But obviously, look, they're trying to move

800
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 3: money around, they're trying to do stuff, but they they

801
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: want to get this reopen, right, there are things that

802
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: are constraining their efforts. This is how we know. If

803
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: they could do whatever they wanted with ICE, even with

804
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 3: all that money, they would just say leave it closed, right,

805
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: leave it closed, and they would still do it. But

806
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: they're not. They're not. They're trying to get it open.

807
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: And look, they're going to have to move out of

808
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: their corner. I mean, the idea that masks people are

809
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 3: going to be allowed to roam the streets. I wouldn't

810
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: vote for something that allows that to still happen as

811
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: one of the most Unamerican things ever. And look, they

812
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: are criminals and there are gang members in this country.

813
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 3: They should be rounded up and they should be deported.

814
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 3: American people voted for that. I support that, but that's

815
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 3: not what this is. But that's not what they're doing.

816
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 3: And we have police officers that go into tough neighborhoods

817
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: every single solitary day in this country. They don't get

818
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 3: to put masks on their face neither should this division

819
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Speaker 3: of law enforcement. As my Republicans friends like to say,

820
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 3: there should be no masks.

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Speaker 1: Republicans have made some big bets on redistricting. I'm seeing

822
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Speaker 1: some polls that show that they they may have tipped

823
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Speaker 1: themselves into a dummy mander. Do you think that's right?

824
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Speaker 1: And looking at Florida, which is a state that has

825
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: seemed so red for so long, and then now you

826
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Speaker 1: have a Democratic mayor in Miami and it looks like

827
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Speaker 1: that Ice may have really alienated Latino voters. Are you hopeful,

828
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: do you see anything or do you think it's just

829
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Speaker 1: too optimistic?

830
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Speaker 3: Well, look, I think in some areas, right, because they

831
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: use old numbers and the ground is shifted beneath them, right,

832
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Speaker 3: I think there'll be some areas that they thought they

833
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: would pick up seats that they're then they're now going

834
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: to lose. And then of course they for forced democratic

835
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: states to have to play the game. It's not a

836
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: game we wanted to play. But if you don't play,

837
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: you lose. So we had to play, and we played,

838
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 3: and we played hard. And look, in some instances we've

839
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Speaker 3: either made sure that their efforts have been neutralized or

840
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Speaker 3: maybe even we can gain a seat or two. Can

841
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Speaker 3: I be honest, I don't know if any of this

842
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: is gonna matter, because I think you're going to see

843
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: a huge victory in November anyway. I don't think we're

844
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: gonna win the House by one or two or three seats.

845
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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna win the House in a much

846
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Speaker 3: larger number. We're a plus six on the generic ballot.

847
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Speaker 3: I think Democrats are in a good spot. The President

848
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 3: is upside down on his two strongest issues, immigration and

849
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Speaker 3: the economy. Those are the two things that propelled him

850
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: into office, the two things he ran on, and he's

851
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: upside down on both of those issues as far as

852
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Speaker 3: Florida's concerned. Obviously, Look, the President lied about t PS

853
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 3: for Venezuelan's. He told them that they were fine, then

854
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: he got rid of TPS. He lied about TPS for Haitians.

855
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 3: He told them they when we fine, then he got

856
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: rid of TPS. And yeah, the Cuban community is watching

857
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 3: all of this, thinking to themselves, this is ridiculous. This

858
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: is part of what they escape from Cuba and other

859
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: areas in Latin Americas. The Latin American community watches some

860
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: of this, and so yes, a we now have a

861
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: democratic mayor in Miami, and I think you're going to

862
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: see major changes in the voting block in both the

863
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: Puerto Rican community and in which is in like Orlando,

864
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Speaker 3: Orange County area, and in the Cuban community in Dade County.

865
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Speaker 3: As far as Florida's concerned, Look, Florida is the Maga

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Speaker 3: capital of the world. Okay, you know that's where we

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Speaker 3: have all the boat parades. If you've never been, Molly,

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Speaker 3: I highly recommend you go to one. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, but get some son.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh son, I love son son.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I could see that. But DeSantis and Trump are

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Speaker 3: going to try to do something there. I think they're

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Speaker 3: really waiting to see what happens with the Voting Rights

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Speaker 3: Act of the Supreme Court. They want to get these

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Speaker 3: black voting districts struck down. So really, if the Supreme

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Speaker 3: Court does that, then there are a lot of seats

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Speaker 3: around the country that could get redrawn. The question is

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Speaker 3: really going to be about timing if the Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: does historically what they do voting rights cases. Voting cases

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Speaker 3: things that can affect an election, are usually the last

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Speaker 3: decision of the session, so that would be in June.

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Speaker 3: So if that happens, you're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 3: do anything with the twenty six election. But Republicans in

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Speaker 3: Florida set a special session to deal with redistricting at

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Speaker 3: the end of April, so there's some belief that maybe

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Speaker 3: they could get that decision earlier. If they do get

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Speaker 3: that decision earlier, they will try to redraw three four

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Speaker 3: of us out of our seats in Florida. I think

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Speaker 3: that's what the governor has said, even though, by the way,

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Speaker 3: we have a constitutional amendment that the voters voted for

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Speaker 3: in Florida that forbids that exact sort of behavior. So

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Speaker 3: whatever they do, it's going to go to the state

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court, and we want to see how that works.

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Speaker 1: Jesus Congressman, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: No no moment, jesse Caannon.

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Speaker 2: Biy let me set the stage for you. So we

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Speaker 2: saw blockbuster reporting in The New York occur, previous reporting

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Speaker 2: from BBC that Elon Musk. When you're on his X

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Speaker 2: for You page, what you see if you are interacting

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Speaker 2: with far leftist content is a ton of right wing

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Speaker 2: content too. But if you're a right winger, you see

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Speaker 2: barely any leftist content. So to get to that Byared

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Speaker 2: has a really really great piece of journalism that the

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Speaker 2: White House is running. One of the main accounts that

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Speaker 2: is boosted by this an account that I, as a

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Speaker 2: leftist get all the time Johnny Maga.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Johnny Maga, by the way, I thought Johnny Maga,

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Speaker 1: who I have blocked. Of course, I was sure Johnny

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Speaker 1: Maga was just like some guy in India, you know,

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Speaker 1: some kind of bought farm in another country. But it

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Speaker 1: turns out that actually it's run by a White House staffer.

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Speaker 1: And that's important because and this is by the way,

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Speaker 1: good reporting on the part of Wired, is that Johnny

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Speaker 1: Maga is run by a White House staffer. And this

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Speaker 1: is the account that tweeted out the video depicting Barack

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Speaker 1: and Michelle Obama's apes. That means that the Trump white

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Speaker 1: House is involved in you know, when Trump said he

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Speaker 1: didn't even watch it, it turns out his people made it.

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Speaker 1: And I think, like that's really important. We often like

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Speaker 1: let Trump kind of dismiss things, weasel out of them,

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Speaker 1: and this it's a really big deal. So you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just like what we saw with homeland security. It's

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Speaker 1: just really really bad and worrying, and it's also the

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Speaker 1: way in which Elon's X is trying to shape the narrative.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because it's like you just think about it.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Maga an account created in September twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: It was originally had a different handle, which referenced Wade's birth.

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Speaker 1: Here the guy who works in the Trump White House.

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Speaker 1: By the way, normal in white houses would be like

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Speaker 1: everyone who knew about this would get fired.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. This reminds me of when the White House Briefing

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Speaker 2: Grouper they had the inside plant who was also a

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Speaker 2: mail scorch. Because it's like the modern day version.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Garrett Wade, it is just yet another day

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Speaker 1: in the.

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Speaker 2: Trump woind astroturfing to pretend he has real support.

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