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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 3: This is our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 2: That's the spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 3: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 4: This this Morning Combat. Hey, I'm not dying. I'm not dying.

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Speaker 4: But uh is there an echobc or is that just

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Speaker 3: I'm not echoing.

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Speaker 2: Maybe my voice is echoing in your thoughts, Luke, that

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Speaker 2: gino from from Alaina. Too much time spent together, right, yeah?

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Speaker 1: Probably probably so.

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Speaker 4: Hi everyone, I'm gonna have to switch my earphones because

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Speaker 4: this is actually echoing in my ear Welcome. It is

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Speaker 4: Morning Combat. It is the thirty first of May twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three. Hi there, I am one half of your

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Speaker 4: hosting duo. I join you from the capital of the

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Speaker 4: Status of Needles right here in Washington, DC, joined by

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Speaker 4: my UH partner and Failure.

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Speaker 1: That's really what he is, just two failures failuring it out.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, Brian Campbell?

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Speaker 2: Well, the world may be crumbling around us, you may

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Speaker 2: be dying, but you know, the consistency in life is

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Speaker 2: day and be there for you three ish times per week.

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Speaker 2: So we're back at it. We're ready to bang Twoe

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Speaker 2: and Luke. I didn't want to apologize. We did a

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Speaker 2: pre taped episode on Monday, Memorial Day mail bag. We

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Speaker 2: nice job. We weren't going to do a show Friday.

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Speaker 3: Then you got sick. Then we weren't going to do it.

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Speaker 2: Then Spence Crawford got announced, and I kind of forced

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Speaker 2: All I apologize.

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Speaker 3: You won't hear that again. But Luke, great to see

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we should blame Tuoki or the

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Speaker 2: more of this agg one in your life, if you

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Speaker 1: Bro, do I need the ag one? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's really true. Let's do this.

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Speaker 4: I need to fix my headphone situation. So why don't

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Speaker 4: you tell the folks what is on the show and

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back at hump Day here morning Combat,

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Speaker 2: your Combat Sports Award winning showcase, right, you know what

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Speaker 2: episode one of season thirty one of The Ultimate Fighter. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Can we get a defend under any circumstances? Probably a

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Speaker 4: Vegas seventy four. We were on a break last week.

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Speaker 4: There was no UFC. There will be won this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Not the greatest card. More on that a little bit later,

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Speaker 2: We never got to see Roy Val versus al Bosi,

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Speaker 2: There is big stakes in this fight, and no, not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually kind of like this fight a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's interesting is al Bosi is very systematic and

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Speaker 3: And although he didn't win that fight, kay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's the latter, right. I think there's

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Speaker 4: By the way, Albasi twenty nine, Kai Car Franz thirty,

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Speaker 4: We don't really know what the aging out mark is

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Speaker 4: Look, Kai Car France has improved a lot, but he's

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Speaker 4: whereas with Albosi, I don't know that they're stating he

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Speaker 4: again I want to make a point about this. You

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Speaker 4: Dudent necessarily either. Albasi has a much more bases covered

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Speaker 4: I do think they'll be se for Like, for my

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Speaker 4: Kai Car France. It's not that Albossi doesn't deserve respect.

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Speaker 4: I think that he does. This seems like a little

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Speaker 2: It's a big step up in class from the guys

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Speaker 2: Bosi and I mentioned the three stoppages what Luke, the

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Speaker 2: seem to be this hammer element with Albosi. No, he's

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Speaker 2: And look, this guy is a hammer though just the

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Speaker 2: And Luke, his English is very good. He did university

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Speaker 2: And what you mentioned earlier saying you weren't particularly sure

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Speaker 2: Number two Alexandri Pantosia looks to be up next.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: We don't know because Devison figureto seems to be flopping

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Speaker 2: This is three versus number seven. Royval could get the

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Speaker 1: Maybe. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I I think if Albosi goes in there and really

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Speaker 4: Kai car France has you know, two knockout wins before

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Speaker 1: Al Bozi, to me, seems like the more interesting one.

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Speaker 4: With the UFC doing a lot of business in Abu Dhabi,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you can do that, that's not it's not.

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Speaker 4: Very easy to do at the stage for al Bosi

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Speaker 4: that would be extremely impressive in my judgment. So he could,

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Speaker 4: he could, he could move along, but you know, in

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Speaker 4: I guess someone could to that spot, but it would

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Speaker 4: That teem to me seems like what was really on

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Speaker 2: He's getting the he officially is getting the next title

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Speaker 3: Here, I'm looking forward to this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And again, if you're looking at just these statistical differences

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Speaker 4: France lands four point seven strikes per minute, absorbs three

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 4: Al Bazi he lands much less three point five but

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Speaker 1: He has very.

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Speaker 4: Defensively sound striking defense sixty one percent to kay Car

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Speaker 1: It makes them very ready. This is a.

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Speaker 4: Winnable fight for me, much more for kay Car France

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Speaker 1: But I guess we shall see just.

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Speaker 2: Al basis that tank, dude, he's coming the hell on.

439
00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 2: You gotta wake up for it. This would be a

440
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Speaker 2: coming out party in so many ways. Luke to close

441
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 2: quickly on KKF. Is it two first names? Is it

442
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 2: two last names? What is Kai car France? Is he hi,

443
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Speaker 2: mister France, It's nice to meet you. Or is it

444
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Speaker 2: mister Karadh France.

445
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Speaker 4: I think it's Kai is the first name, and then

446
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Speaker 4: Kara France is the last name.

447
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Speaker 2: Okay, because sometimes you incorrectly refer to Leo Santa Cruz

448
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Speaker 2: as Cruz. Sama is not his middle.

449
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 4: Name, Leo Santa Cruz as Cruse. Yes, you're right, Yes,

450
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 4: that is correct.

451
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Speaker 3: I don't want to see you do that anymore, nor

452
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Speaker 3: do I want to see it.

453
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Speaker 4: It's just it's just confusing because I've definitely seen Santa

454
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Speaker 4: Cruz when someone has it as their last name all

455
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Speaker 4: one word, and it correct me if I'm wrong, His

456
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Speaker 4: is two correct. Yeah, So that's why I get tripped

457
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Speaker 4: up a little bit. H Okay, you see, let's talk

458
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Speaker 4: about the rest of this card very quickly. There's not

459
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Speaker 4: a there's not a whole lot to say about it

460
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 4: in your comaine such as you can call it that.

461
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Speaker 4: Alex casseris taking on Daniel Pineda Paneda, an underdog at

462
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Speaker 4: point plus one fifty five to Casseaus's minus one eighty.

463
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Speaker 4: I think that makes sense. Cassaus has kind of been

464
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Speaker 4: like a guy who's hung around after you know, a

465
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Speaker 4: little bit of early buzz from his entrance into the

466
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Speaker 4: UFC as Bruce Leroy, that identity has kind of gone away.

467
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Speaker 1: He's going to become like an almost elder statesman.

468
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Speaker 4: But UFC vet that people kind of know and sort

469
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Speaker 4: of trust what they get with him. Paneda coming off

470
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Speaker 4: a nice win over Baltimore's Tucker Lutz guillotine win, kind

471
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Speaker 4: of a brawler against casse risby a little bit more

472
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Speaker 4: of an outside sharpshooter a little bit these days, especially

473
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Speaker 4: with his way over Julian rosa fun contest. I actually

474
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Speaker 4: kind of like this one.

475
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's also setting up an opportunity

476
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Speaker 2: for Alex Casara's at thirty four to really turn that corner.

477
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: He has Luke one six of seven since that submission,

478
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Speaker 2: lost to cron Gracie in twenty nineteen. Okay lost the

479
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 2: decision to Sudiq Yusuf, but he's put together wins over

480
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Speaker 2: decent competition, right the Chase Hoopers, the Juicy Jays. This is,

481
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Speaker 2: I mean, not a strong col main event. We can

482
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Speaker 2: really echo that sentiment up and down this card underneath it,

483
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Speaker 2: but a good opportunity for Cassras if he can stay

484
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Speaker 2: on this track to make himself much more legitimate and

485
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Speaker 2: like you said, kind of move away from that Bruce

486
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Speaker 2: Leroy gimmick and identification into the identification of a legitimate

487
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Speaker 2: fighter within this larger featherweight division. I just I'm having trouble,

488
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Speaker 2: you know, piecing through this undercard and finding reasons to

489
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Speaker 2: tune in earlier.

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Speaker 4: Luke, you know, well, a couple of things that mention

491
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Speaker 4: is that Jim Miller is taking on Jared Gordon. Jim

492
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Speaker 4: Miller an underdog by the way, at plus one fifty

493
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Speaker 4: five Jared Gordon minus one to eighty Jim Miller, if

494
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Speaker 4: he wins, this becomes the first UFC fighter ever to

495
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Speaker 4: twenty five wins in the octagon, which is just a

496
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Speaker 4: hell of a feat. By the way, Jim Miller still

497
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Speaker 4: in his thirties, barely but thirty nine years of age.

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Speaker 1: Incredible. Is longevity is just truly remarkable.

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Speaker 4: I did not see this coming, especially because his brother

500
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Speaker 4: Dan Miller, they were they were kind of not like

501
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Speaker 4: a two piece. Jim Miller was I think widely considered better,

502
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Speaker 4: but Dan Miller got a bit of a jump in

503
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Speaker 4: the IFL and was a guillotine monster together at the

504
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Speaker 4: same time that Jim was there. But Dan kind of

505
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 4: faded out and Jim kept going. It's remarkable to still

506
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Speaker 4: see him here. That's kind of interesting. Andre Orlowski also

507
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Speaker 4: just setting all kinds of heavyweight records.

508
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Speaker 1: This comes to us from MMA Junkie BC.

509
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Speaker 4: He competes in his fortieth UFC bout this weekend, fortieth,

510
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Speaker 4: the most in heavyweight history and second most behind Miller,

511
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Speaker 4: who's going to be at forty two. Arlovsky is whatever

512
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Speaker 4: we here we go, twenty three victories in UFC competition

513
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Speaker 4: title don Seroni and just behind Miller, who's currently of

514
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Speaker 4: course at twenty four. He's got the most heavyweight competition

515
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Speaker 4: time in divisional history, most victories in UFC heavyweight history,

516
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Speaker 4: and I could go on and on from there. I

517
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Speaker 4: did not see his longevity coming either. And it's not

518
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Speaker 4: to say that his fighting style of the current state

519
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Speaker 4: is the most exciting. I don't think that it is,

520
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Speaker 4: but pretty remarkable. It says a lot about the older

521
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Speaker 4: era of heavyweights that you've got a guy like Arlovsky

522
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Speaker 4: who can kind of retool things and at age forty

523
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Speaker 4: four is still beating up and comers the degree of regularity.

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Speaker 2: You just had a four fight win streak, granted against

525
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Speaker 2: that sort of mid to lower level of competition in

526
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Speaker 2: this heavyweight division. But it is interesting that UFC book

527
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Speaker 2: these two record breakers or record threateners on the same card,

528
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Speaker 2: as you mentioned it, Luke, you just said it, but

529
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Speaker 2: to recap forty one, Jim Miller in first place with

530
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Speaker 2: most fights, Arlovsky at thirty nine. So they're both going

531
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Speaker 2: to one up there and see though with a victory,

532
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Speaker 2: if or Andrea Alowski can pull it off and Jim

533
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Speaker 2: Miller would would lose, they could tie for most victories

534
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Speaker 2: with twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Luke, do you think I've said this before? But I

536
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 3: believe in it.

537
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Speaker 2: If we're gonna do BMF and make it a thing,

538
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Speaker 2: I kind of want UFC to play up this constant

539
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: changing leader board. Maybe not of most fights, although that's

540
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: a nice stat to mention, but of all time career

541
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Speaker 2: winners like Cowboy already had his sort of moments where

542
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Speaker 2: he captured first place and was so slowly alone. But

543
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Speaker 2: would you like the inclusion of like, not a BMF title,

544
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Speaker 2: but how about something like a green jacket. How about

545
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: like a blackjack? How about something just says on it.

546
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Speaker 2: I am the all time winningest fighter in UFC history,

547
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Speaker 2: and it's something that we pass on because I think

548
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: it adds intrigued to fights that don't really have a

549
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: lot of intrigue.

550
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Speaker 3: And I think both of these would qualify.

551
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Speaker 2: Yet Jim Miller currently stands alone, Orlovsky could tie him

552
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Speaker 2: next time, Luke, maybe they fight off each other in

553
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: a grappling catchway to figure it out. I'm kidding on

554
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: that part, but would you like the extent of any

555
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: gimmicks to honor what is Look, it's a compiler type

556
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: of thing, but it also shows your consistency, your longevity,

557
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: your toughness to be able to stay at it and

558
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Speaker 2: really enter this category. I mean, yeah, we've seen title

559
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: contending names competing for most fights overall, guys like Damian

560
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: Maya and let's not you know RDA. Charles Olavera, by

561
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: the way, only three off in terms of most wins

562
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Speaker 2: in history, along with John Jones and Dustin Poier tied.

563
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Speaker 2: But I kind of would like to celebrate that more

564
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Speaker 2: because in some ways that's what our Lavsky and Miller

565
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: are still fighting for yes, they're like valuable sort of

566
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: gatekeepers in a sense, but I want to play up

567
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Speaker 2: that part of it. It is an achievement, and I'm

568
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Speaker 2: here to celebrate it, Luke and bang that drum, all right.

569
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Speaker 4: You know it's kind of interesting. I kind of feel

570
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Speaker 4: like the UFC. You know, this is just me giving

571
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Speaker 4: a UFC advice. I'm sure they don't care about. I

572
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Speaker 4: actually feel like, rather than calling what they do like

573
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Speaker 4: their own hall of fame or whatever, I feel like

574
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Speaker 4: the UFC should be a little bit more interesting for

575
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Speaker 4: me if they had like a UFC museum. Here's what

576
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Speaker 4: I mean that, Like, what is the value of twenty

577
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 4: five wins? On some level? It's just arbitrary? What makes

578
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: it more special than five to twenty four? Like just

579
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 4: that we have these kinds of like notions of these

580
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Speaker 4: numbers that in our other life twenty five, fifty, seventy,

581
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Speaker 4: five hundred, these would have patterned numbers.

582
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Speaker 1: They kind of mean something for us.

583
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Speaker 4: But I kind of wonder if they had like a

584
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Speaker 4: UFC museum, like a brick and mortar place that fans

585
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: could go to and they could see no matter what.

586
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Speaker 4: If Jim Miller, let's say, gets this win. He would

587
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Speaker 4: be the first and only fighter to have twenty five wins.

588
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Speaker 4: Now eventually someone else will and beyond that, but some

589
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 4: kind of place to mark and go, And like you know,

590
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Speaker 4: I'm reminded of of different memorials I've seen for football

591
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: play teams and other kinds of sports figures where there's

592
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Speaker 4: like lifelike figures in there, and then you see the

593
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: historical achievement and what it meant and who was there,

594
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Speaker 4: rather than some kind of belt or jacket. They already

595
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Speaker 4: do the jacket for the Hall of Fame anyway, so

596
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 4: that you really can't remix that without looking a little

597
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: bit weird. Instead, when you've got these older guys who

598
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Speaker 4: are doing these kind of milestone events, these milestones should matter,

599
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: and some kind of way that fans can access, and

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Speaker 4: it almost seems like them having their own museum of

601
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 4: so of sorts where you have some kind of place

602
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 4: to identify these what you like to call out and

603
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 4: I don't think it's the worst word in the world,

604
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 4: but compilers, but nevertheless, an insane amount of longevity that

605
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 4: is very difficult to do. Some kind of place that

606
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 4: can honor them in a rightful way without obstructing how

607
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: we award present day excellence.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's very easy for the UFC to

609
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: do this.

610
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Speaker 2: One idea would be expanding on the complex that they

611
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: already have, the PI being right next door to the

612
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: UFC Apex, either as part of those buildings or an expansion,

613
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: and making what a physical UFC Hall of fame that

614
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: becomes a tourist attraction. You charge a little bit for

615
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: entry fee, you go in there, As you mentioned, you

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Speaker 2: celebrate I mean, I think that'd be a great chance

617
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: for the UFC to celebrate parts of their history that

618
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: they typically don't over celebrate, right the seg Era before

619
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Speaker 2: they owned it and some of the early pioneers.

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Speaker 3: Is a hall of fame really matter if there's no

621
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Speaker 3: place you can go see it.

622
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Speaker 2: I've argued that with WWE in the past, which seems

623
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Speaker 2: to have the same sort of arbitrary, uh you know,

624
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: way of which they induct people. But if you're not

625
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 2: going to put it on UFC property there and making

626
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: the whole idea of the PI and the Apex war

627
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: of a tourist attraction, which I think it kind of

628
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: already is. If you're a UFC super fan and you're

629
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: going to Vegas. You're probably gonna get in a cab

630
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: anyway and go down and check it out and go

631
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Speaker 2: as far as they'll let you.

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Speaker 3: Either put it there or Luke, put it on the strip.

633
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: Put it right next to the the T Mobile Arena. Yeah,

634
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: they'll play face the pain in the bathroom. Hell of

635
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: a comment from there from fancy bornem or they should.

636
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: It'd be hilarious.

637
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: But Luke, wouldn't you see that? Like if you know

638
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: the New York New York.

639
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: Has all those outdoor restaurants that lead into Toshiba Plaza

640
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: there and in the atrium of the T Mobile Arena

641
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: in some unused space, couldn't you easily make an attraction,

642
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: a cheesy Vegas attraction that is the official UFC Hall

643
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: of Fame, where maybe you young UFC fan could one

644
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: day see the bust of Andre R.

645
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Speaker 3: Lap Si.

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00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: You know what is this some kind of bust? Yes,

647
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: it's very impressive, man, you know, I mean, or maybe

648
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: the bust of your favorite female fighter. Luke, we've I mean,

649
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: or you could just probably see that in only fans,

650
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: But you get my point.

651
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: Doing a bust joke lord pathetic?

652
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Speaker 4: Really, I would throw rotten tomato at you if I could,

653
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: But I do kind of mean this. Like, for example,

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Speaker 4: I've said this before, my wife does a lot of

655
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Speaker 4: business in Vegas because she's a corporate event planner, and

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Speaker 4: so one time I happened to be in Vegas when

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Speaker 4: they were doing the UFC A or not APEX, like

658
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Speaker 4: their convention, I think at the convention center whatever that's called.

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Speaker 4: And my wife was like, Hey, I'm be curious to

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Speaker 4: go see how they.

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Speaker 1: Did the layout there.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know who did it On the UFC side,

663
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Speaker 4: they hired some company, but my wife went and was like, dude,

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Speaker 4: they did it right, like they whoever whoever did this

665
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 4: convention space knew very much what they were doing. I

666
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: feel like the UFC could really really there's a question

667
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: of what kind of authenticity of storytelling there would be,

668
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Speaker 4: but in terms of a physical place you could go to,

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Speaker 4: I think they could blow it out the I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think they could do an amazing job.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I can't have an interesting Luke he likes the

672
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Speaker 2: idea of bringing in retired fighters to get a quick

673
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Speaker 2: paycheck by doing autographs. Imagine if every day that the

674
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: UFC Hall of Fame was open, you had some retired

675
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: fighter there like Pete Rose gratuitously does in certain casinos

676
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: just signing things. I mean, look, it's kind of the

677
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Speaker 2: idea of taking your big fan experience, which they do

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00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: a great job of as we mentioned on International Fight Week,

679
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: and making it a potential everyday landing. I'd rather see

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Speaker 2: Luke x UFC greats show up there and get the

681
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Speaker 2: comic con treatment than seeing them show up on Power

682
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Speaker 2: Slap or even BKFC.

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Speaker 1: To be very fair or the lot.

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00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lava Shack is still also looking to book

685
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: future opportunities there. I mean, look, would it upset you

686
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: if like middling mid level x UFC fighters, like one

687
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: of my favorites of all time, Dustin Hayes led who's

688
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: probably you know, doing life saving nurse or EMT right now.

689
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: Imagine if he showed up there, like working the front desk,

690
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: work in the gift shop of the UFC Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Is that insulting for our legends to find a second career, Luke,

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Speaker 2: I'd rather Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think I think asking Dustin Hayslet to work in

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Speaker 4: the gift shop of the UFC Museums.

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Speaker 2: Oh, probably maybe that was crass, but what are we

696
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: What's Tim Sylvia asking us to do watch him get slapped, Luke, No,

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00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: come on, come.

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00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: On, yeah he is.

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Speaker 4: He is watching us to get him to get slapped.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, man, you know what's so funny. People

701
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: hated Tim Sylvia during his career. He should have done

702
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: that while he was famous because people would have paid

703
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 4: for that. Now it's like, you know, what's the real value?

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Speaker 4: All right, BC, let's talk about the topic number two here.

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00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: So over the break there was a really series of

706
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: interesting questions or I should say statements rather made by

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Speaker 4: one of the UFC matchmakers, Mick Maynard. Let's look some

708
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: of these on the screen if we can. I want

709
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: to read them out. So it starts with this one BC.

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00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: It starts with him saying, I bet you bloody elbow

711
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: complained about the UFC card this weekend, the joke obviously

712
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: being that there was no UFC card, so they're just

713
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: there to complain. He goes on and says, I have

714
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: no idea why I'm doing this, But he actually asked

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Speaker 4: the fans which card did you actually think was bad?

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Speaker 1: These athletes, which will come back.

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00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: To in a minute, have been amazing, And then he

718
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: says it's an honest question. I actually do remember the

719
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: last bad fight card, and it's been many years ago.

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Speaker 4: I feel the more cards we have, the more opportunity

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Speaker 4: the negativity.

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Speaker 1: Is odd to me.

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Speaker 4: And then, last, but not least, someone says the last

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Speaker 4: bad card. I remember Holme versus gd arm Brooklyn. I

725
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: was there for that, by the way, and that was

726
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: a billion years ago, and McK mahner says, I agree. Now,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's exactly the one mc mahner

728
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: was talking about when he says the last one was

729
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 4: years ago, BC. But here's what really stands out to me,

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Speaker 4: and I want to give you the first opportunity to

731
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Speaker 4: react this. First of all, I was actually glad that

732
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: he came out and said it. Not that I thought

733
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Speaker 4: taking shots of bloody elbow was interesting. I think anyone

734
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 4: to take shots of bloody Elbow is just telling you

735
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 4: they're one of the few outlets actually doing any reporting

736
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Speaker 4: on the industry. So that aside, I don't really care.

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00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: But I did think it was interesting that he said

738
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Speaker 4: a couple of things. One that he the negativity was

739
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: odd to him, meaning he doesn't seem to understand. I mean,

740
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: he's telling you who doesn't understand where it's coming from. Uh,

741
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: and what really is the genesis of it other than

742
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: I think he thinks just sort of motivated bad press

743
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: to really go after them and then beyond that, like

744
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 4: the last one was years ago.

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Speaker 1: BC. What do you make of a UFC matchmaker not

746
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: understanding the criticism and thinking that the last bad card

747
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: they had was many years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tone deaf. And I hate to say that

749
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: because you know, we've we've gotten to know Sean Shelby

750
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Speaker 2: at times over the years, and I like him, and

751
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Speaker 2: I've never met Mick, but I hear great things.

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Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm not. Their job isn't easy.

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Speaker 2: The fans in the media are always going to be

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00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 2: the quick to criticize and sort of suddenly put them

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00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 2: in the spotlight here. But you either, in my in

756
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: my opinion, in this type of public setting, you either

757
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: go out of your way to tell the real truth

758
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: to try to get people off your back, or you

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Speaker 2: just be quiet about it. Meaning this, Luke, we all

760
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Speaker 2: assume that the UFC is purposely kind of handcuffing themselves

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Speaker 2: for a bit or I believe let's let's i'll put

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Speaker 2: that on the tape. I believe there is some sort

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Speaker 2: of connection here to the fallout of Endeavor buying WWE

764
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: and paying off the debt from purchasing the UFC back

765
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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, and all these things that affect anything

766
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: else but the fight game in the UFC itself, and

767
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: in the same season in which we see insane record

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00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 2: level of financial gain for UFC. All, by the way,

769
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: kudos to them all respect and how they build their

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Speaker 2: business and carry it out. Yet we're dealing with the

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00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: bad headlines of fighter pay. And you look across not

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00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 2: just this calendar year, but this month and next month

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Speaker 2: and just this current run.

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Speaker 3: It's just not up to standards.

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00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: It's not up to standards of what we're used to.

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Speaker 2: It's certainly not up to standards with a promotion that

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Speaker 2: has that big of a gap and lead over the

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00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: number two, three, and four in this larger global mma space,

779
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: not the one that is already like already underpaying its athletes.

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Speaker 2: And on top of that, we're rolling out unexcusably watered

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00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: down to at some point even bad fight cards. If

782
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: you are hand tam strong at the moment in ways

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00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: that we believe extend to financials or that I believe,

784
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: then this would be a case where you just don't

785
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 2: say anything because you're not gonna come out and trash

786
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: your own company. You're not gonna come out if this

787
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: is true, by the way, and share like you know,

788
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: internal endeavor strategies and content, you know, in context about

789
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: where the money's going and why or why not. It

790
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 2: looks like this, So if you're going to come out

791
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: and talk, it means that you're either trying to ignore

792
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: that narrative or that narrative isn't true and what it

793
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 2: makes him look is completely tone def to be like, oh,

794
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: you guys are gonna complain anyway, but you know, let's

795
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 2: be honest, what are you actually complaining about. I thought Luke,

796
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: one of the best journalists happened to be, you know,

797
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: producer Stephanie Haynes from uh Bloody Elbow, who tweeted back

798
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: at him and said, I complain every time you put

799
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Speaker 2: on a card that has three ranked fighters out of

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Speaker 2: twenty six. You didn't even give Casseris a ranked opponent,

801
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 2: referencing this weekend's Colemine event. I think that's the best

802
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: way you can sort of respectfully sum up the criticism

803
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: that we have right Now, if we are handcuffing match

804
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: making for financial reasons, then be honest about it. But

805
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: if that's not even true, and that's a narrative created

806
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: incorrectly by critical journalists like me, then you coming out

807
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: and being like, yeah, you guys are.

808
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 3: Complaining a lot lately, right, What the hell's the problem here?

809
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: Am I?

810
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: Right?

811
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: Is this thing on? Yeah? That makes it look like

812
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: you don't identify that there is a problem, And that

813
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: is a much bigger problem to me than the current

814
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: one we see every week, which is the level of

815
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: matchmaking going down with no explained reasoning while the financial

816
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: bottom line continues to go up.

817
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: What is that, Mick, That's what we want you to

818
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: refer about.

819
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: Don't give us a Dana White type response which never

820
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 2: actually addresses the true honesty behind the question at hand,

821
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: and instead picks apart you know, low hanging fruit or whatever.

822
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: Tell us straight up, you guys are wrong. Here's data

823
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: to support that we've had more ranked fighters fighting each

824
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: other during this three months and we've had Give me

825
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: something to back me down from that stance. Don't come

826
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: out pocus in the eye and be like, you know

827
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: what I mean, Luke, It comes off as as either

828
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: tone deaf or villainous. And I don't think I've ever

829
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: gotten that vibe from Mick or Sean or anyone.

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00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: You know.

831
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: That's a tough job. It's a tough job. And oh,

832
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: by the way, Luke, they typically do a fan freakingtastic

833
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: job at it. That's why they are where they are.

834
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: They make the fights we want to see. They have

835
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: access to the best fighters, you know what, They also

836
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: kind of underpay them and keep them hungry and needing

837
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: to take tough fights. Tell us the truth, tell us

838
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: nobody wants to fight each other. Tell us something, or

839
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: don't say anything at all.

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00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty fair summation.

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00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: I mean I I I have never heard a bad

842
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 4: word about I've never seen to your point, I've spoken

843
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: to Sean Shelby many times. I don't think I've ever

844
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 4: spoken to Mick or maybe I think I met him

845
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 4: one time at a hotel, but I didn't have a long.

846
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: Conversation with him. But I can certainly say that no

847
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: one has told me anything bad about him in any

848
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: kind of direct way that I'm aware of. You, I

849
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what.

850
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 4: Kind of person he is, because I don't really know him,

851
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 4: but I just want to be clear, like I have

852
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: from what I can tell, he's, to your point, an

853
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 4: extremely hard worker. I think in general, the the UC

854
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 4: matchmakers have a very very difficult job, and in general

855
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 4: I think they do the best they can with where

856
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 4: the product is. But to me, it just seems a

857
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: little silly to go out there and say, well, I

858
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 4: don't really get where the negativity.

859
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: Is coming from.

860
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I can tell you where it's coming from,

861
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 4: and it's not really hard to understand. Your organization is

862
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: valued at twelve billion dollars. Do you mean to tell

863
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 4: me that week to week that there is evidence of that,

864
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: like in terms of the quality of the event being

865
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: put out? Please be serious. This is just not even

866
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: very difficult to debate at all. I mean, here's the

867
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 4: reality right like this, The UFC has eighty percent, perhaps

868
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 4: even more, of the world's elite talent. They make ninety

869
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 4: percent of every dollar in the industry. And yet what

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00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 4: they have done is they in order to get to

871
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 4: that place, is they have constructed a business.

872
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: Now, I wanted you to think not.

873
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 4: So much in terms of fight promotion, but in terms

874
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 4: of a business that has designed purposely to not really

875
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 4: reduce fighter volatility on the pay per view side, but

876
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 4: in general, to serve so many different masters, to have

877
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 4: so many different commitments in terms of content being king

878
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: and where it goes and who gets it in all

879
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: number of ways that they have to go far outside

880
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 4: of what I think the core business is, not only

881
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: to make it difficult for other competitors to be there,

882
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 4: but more to the point, to make the product look

883
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: indistinguishable from regional level promotion. They actually have to be

884
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: in that space in order to meet all of these

885
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: content demands.

886
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: When stephie Hayes.

887
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: Stephie Hayes says that you know it's got three ranked

888
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: fighters out of twenty six, this is the issue. It's

889
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: not that everyone who fights needs to be in the

890
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: top five or top ten or top fifteen. Obviously you

891
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: have to have some prospects who come up in some

892
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: aging veterans, and blah blah blah goes in a lot

893
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: of different directions. But if what makes the product interesting

894
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: is the higher end version of it, that is really

895
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 4: where the money is to be made, That is really

896
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: where the strength of the product clearly stands. Apart from

897
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 4: even just rank spots. A few rows back, and they've

898
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: gone far, far, far far outside of that in order

899
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: to make money from content delivery systems that don't necessarily

900
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: correspond to quality in any kind of consistent way. In

901
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: other words, they're not arranging events in any kind of

902
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: curated way to make sure that every stop along the

903
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: tour gets a really high level show. They have constructed

904
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 4: a product to meet content demands, and as a consequence,

905
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 4: it forces them to There are more UFC fighters than

906
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: there are players in the NBA.

907
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: We just noodle that for a second. So they have

908
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: to go far outside of the core part.

909
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: Of the business that is the most interesting and the

910
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: most important in order to make all of that delivery

911
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 4: system work and to pay off. And it has paid off.

912
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 4: They've made it work. But just don't come back on

913
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: the back end and say you don't understand where the

914
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 4: negativity comes from. Yes, certain cards can be much more

915
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 4: interesting after the fact than there are other wise given credit.

916
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 4: But I'm just sorry to tell you the fortieth best

917
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 4: walterweight on Earth versus the forty fifth best of welter

918
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 4: weight on Earth is never going to be as interesting

919
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: to me as the third versus the second, or even

920
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: the seventh versus the fifth with rare exception here or there.

921
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: It's a spirited effort that those guys might be able

922
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 4: to deliver. But they're in that spot for a reason,

923
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 4: versus the top walterweights for a reason. There is a

924
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 4: massive difference in quality between them. And to say you

925
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 4: don't understand that, I frankly don't understand that.

926
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, I try to take seriously the criticisms that

927
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: people have of our show, especially when they come you know,

928
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: respectfully and direct and DM me and I happen to

929
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: see it, and look, we have gotten sort of mixed

930
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: feedback in my opinion of people saying like, don't ever

931
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: listen to the naysayers, you guys sort of being in

932
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: this season of UFC complaint and heavy criticism against Dana

933
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: on Company. It's it's needed because the fighters aren't getting

934
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: enough representation themselves. So but just the same, Luke, I

935
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: respect those that come back and say, look, b see

936
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: like it's getting too much if the fighters can't figure

937
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: this out for themselves, like back off. And the other

938
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: half that I that I see what people say is

939
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: like they frame themselves as look, I'm just here for

940
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: the entertainment.

941
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: I want to see the best fight the best.

942
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 2: If all the things happen that you want for the fighters,

943
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: this sport is going to turn into boxing and we

944
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: don't want that. And I can respect that because I'm

945
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: in boxing where it's so splintered, where you can't make

946
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: the same criticisms at certain boxing premoters that you do

947
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: of UFC because they don't have the control over the

948
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: pool of fighters in the business in general. But I

949
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: get the post, let's finally take care of the fighters

950
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: world where yes, inevitably, to some degree, matchmaking probably gets

951
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: watered down for a bit as we start to see

952
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: the fighters get what they want. We're not even there

953
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: and we're already seeing boxing like watered down developments. So

954
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: it's not that that argument doesn't work in this specific case.

955
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 2: So we wouldn't be talking about it right now in

956
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: this show at this moment if McK mader in the

957
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 2: UFC weren't doing a rare moment of publicly talking about

958
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 2: it and seemingly you know, look, if it was down to,

959
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: hey man, you guys wanted more fighter pay, so we're

960
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: stepping up the fighter pay and this is the result.

961
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: That would be one thing, Luke, that would be one

962
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: thing to debate and say, maybe this is important to

963
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: go through this change now for the future.

964
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: Dude, we're not even there yet.

965
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: They're getting paid even less than normal based on the

966
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: recent john S Nash report in comparison to what the

967
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: company's making, and the unexplained season of very soft boxing

968
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: like matchmaking continues. I don't get it. Just just you know,

969
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: at this point, if you're going to speak, speak the truth,

970
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: please please.

971
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just gonna wrap up and say, like,

972
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 4: just to reiterate one more time, it's it'd be one

973
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 4: thing if they had that roster and they were trying

974
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: to think about like making a content schedule where they

975
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: could deliver a consistent level of excellence over time.

976
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: And of course that's not possible because there are tiers, but.

977
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 4: Even within those tiers, creating a consistent level of excellence,

978
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: that's not what has had happened here.

979
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: What has happened here.

980
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 4: Is a business was bought out by a much larger

981
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 4: business that had to as now servicing a substantial amount

982
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 4: of debt as a consequence. Now the business is doing

983
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 4: quite well, but what they have done is they've constructed

984
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: the business to be maximally profitable by scaling it in

985
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 4: a way where they only you can't scale past number

986
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: one in the world. You can only scale past fifteen,

987
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: past twenty, past twenty five, past thirty. They've scaled the

988
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 4: other direction, called it all UFC, and then said, you

989
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: guys aren't allowed to notice the difference. Yes we are,

990
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 4: Yes we are. We are absolutely allowed to notice the difference.

991
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 4: And we're gonna say so. It is not as interesting

992
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 4: to me to watch the fiftieth best bantam weights on Earth,

993
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: although that's pretty good still, the fight virtus versus the

994
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 4: top five, it cannot be by definition, And so saying

995
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: that we don't understand where that's coming from. Dude, if

996
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 4: I can't tell the difference between a UFC card and

997
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 4: a good LFA card, what like, I don't understand where

998
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: the I just it sort of boggles my mind that

999
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: like that they don't understand that that is is where

1000
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: and not even just media, by the way, where just

1001
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: a lot of fans are coming from. So and also

1002
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 4: I just want to point something out too. It's like, dude,

1003
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: like there's no regulation of this industry. The contracts are onerous.

1004
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 4: You guys have the vast majority of the talent. You're

1005
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 4: supposed to be putting on like really good events. You're

1006
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 4: supposed to be putting on the best versus the best.

1007
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 4: If you guys can't do that in the environment that

1008
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 4: you have, who can you know what I mean? Who

1009
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: can so just scaling out past the elite side and

1010
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 4: incorporating very questionable talent, putting it all together in like

1011
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: you know, these in voluminous ways all the time, and

1012
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 4: then be like, yeah, it's all pretty good. I don't

1013
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 4: know that I really agree with that, although you know,

1014
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,959
Speaker 4: people's mileage may vary. But by the way, we should

1015
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: also say this too out loud. There are UFC fans

1016
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: or MMA fans who just like something to watch every week. Yes,

1017
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: of course they prefer the pay per view side or

1018
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: you know, good fight night main events to the rest

1019
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: of it. They can notice that there are some differences,

1020
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: but hey, as long as the content is flowing, they're

1021
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 4: pretty happy. Yeah, listen, if that's you, I'm not here

1022
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: to take it away from you, per se. I just

1023
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: want to be clear, like the matchmaker's argument here mcmaynard

1024
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 4: about like he doesn't understand why there's negativity.

1025
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: Again, you can disagree with that.

1026
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 4: Negativity and by the way, saying like, well, the athletes

1027
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: are you know, they've always been great. Yes, Mick, the

1028
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 4: athletes are doing what you have tasked them to do.

1029
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 4: But I'm not interested in high school sports. When I

1030
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: go to an NFL game, I'm not interested in that.

1031
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 4: That's not what I'm there to see. That's I think

1032
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 4: the point.

1033
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, And indeed, and I think when there are things

1034
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: that are sort of bubbling to the surface that are unexplained, Luke,

1035
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: no one's really asking Dana why we're still in the

1036
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: apex every week, that I think is aligned with the

1037
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: softer matchmaking of late. To me, it's all still this

1038
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: question of unexplained reality, like and and if it was

1039
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: if it was a different promotion, where you get where

1040
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: they're hamstrung financially, you get where a fight falling apart

1041
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: could break them in some cases, you have a certain

1042
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: level of grace for that. Dude, you have c you're

1043
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: doing better than you've ever done. So let's see that

1044
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: show out and let's see your attitude reflect upon that. Look.

1045
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: I would, I mean, we would all like to see

1046
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: some more transparency, But man, I don't feel like anyone's

1047
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: pushing data on anything anymore.

1048
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: As I always say, man like yon slap beon slap.

1049
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: They ask some hard slap questions and that was great.

1050
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: I appre appreciated that lately.

1051
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 4: But dude, I mean, listen, how do you do that

1052
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 4: job if you piss data off enough where he says

1053
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: you can't show up anymore. Yeah, like you're gonna lose

1054
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: your job. That's just the reality. Like whoever these institutions

1055
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: work for, you know, you guys know who's there. They're

1056
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 4: not going to protect the people who show up to

1057
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: these UFC pressors if they ask super probing questions.

1058
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: We just know that.

1059
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: So again, I bet we've had this debate before where

1060
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 4: it's like these guys should ask tougher questions. Dude, I'm

1061
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: telling you, it's very easy to say that. When you

1062
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 4: pay your rent a certain way and you know the

1063
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 4: company you work for is not going to protect you.

1064
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 4: If you lose your credentials and you're not gonna get

1065
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 4: hired anywhere else, you're fucked. The system has been construc

1066
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 4: that way. I remember the instant that some of the

1067
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: places I you know, some some editorial rooms I was

1068
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: in and I heard people above me being like, yeah,

1069
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: if you lose credentials, that's kind of it. You know,

1070
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: you begin to realize that, like there is an incentive

1071
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: from the media, corporate media working with corporate other brands

1072
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 4: even in this kind of you know, we're covering you capacity.

1073
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 4: They it doesn't work that way. They all need to

1074
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: make sure that access is open for these corporate institutions

1075
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: to function the where they want to function.

1076
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 2: So also, also, nobody wants to be a hater. Stop

1077
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: giving us reasons to fill the show with that. Bs. Okay,

1078
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: I'd love to talk about the UFC fights this weekend,

1079
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: but I'm sorry, after KKF versus all Bosie, what are

1080
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: we supposed to talk about Luke?

1081
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, again and again, Like I just I'm being lectured

1082
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 4: by people being like, oh, Belatore can't produce cards like this, Dude,

1083
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 4: belto Or routinely produces cards better than this, Like and

1084
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 4: I'm not even like the biggest Beltore cheerleader.

1085
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: By any stretch.

1086
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 4: Uh. Trust me, they believe me when I tell you,

1087
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 4: Like they're not necessarily a fan of some of my analysis.

1088
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: That's just the reality.

1089
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 4: Like this card that coming up on June seventeenth, and

1090
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 4: obviously the very best UFC card is vastly better than

1091
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: when anyone else can produce. Okay, fair enough, but like

1092
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 4: just the idea that like the brand is really where

1093
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: all the action is. Yeah, it certainly should be and

1094
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 4: often is and and is in a way that no

1095
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 4: one else is, but you know, not always really not always. Okay,

1096
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 4: let's be let's move on to the next topic here.

1097
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 4: Speaking of Bellator BC, so two announcements sort of that

1098
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: we're made in one. Bellator versus rise In two was

1099
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 4: announced that a very late night it's kind of I think,

1100
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 4: was Friday night here in the States, Saturday morning press

1101
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 4: conference in Tokyo, Japan. There's gonna be Bella Tour versus

1102
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: rise In two set for July thirtieth. This will take

1103
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 4: place at the famed Saitama super Arena in Sayitama, Japan.

1104
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 4: It's gonna have aj McKee versus patricky Pitbull on it,

1105
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 4: which will be interesting. This was the other announcement though, BC,

1106
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: why aren't you LETTV taking on one of the Asakura

1107
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 4: brothers Kaya Sakura, Uh kind of Watanabi's gonna be in

1108
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 4: this car blah blah blah. But the big thing that

1109
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 4: caught my atten was Kyoji Hora Gucci is back in

1110
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 4: action taking on Makoto. They called him shin Rayu Takahashi.

1111
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 4: Why is this relevant, BC? It's the first ever Belatoor

1112
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 4: Flyweight World Championship ever. They're going to introduce the flyweight

1113
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: division and hor Gucci is going to fight it in

1114
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 4: the in the inaugural fight for that division. Your reaction

1115
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 4: to this renewed relationship that Scott Cooker has formed with

1116
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: Sakaki Bara in France and then also them adding a

1117
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 4: flyweight division.

1118
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 2: Did you say in France?

1119
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: Did I say France. I'm in Japan, Sorry, Japan.

1120
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1121
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: Look, I think they got the right guy, certainly in

1122
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: Kyoji Horraguchi, who was not only one of the top

1123
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: bandon weights in the world, even though things didn't end

1124
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 2: up going his way in the one million Dollar Tournament

1125
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: after coming so close to winning back that Belator championship

1126
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 2: against Sergio Pettis. But you know, we've seen him as

1127
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 2: a world class one twenty five or just the same.

1128
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: So it's the right guy. I like the pairing with Risen,

1129
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: I like taking advantage of that in the platform and

1130
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: the huge audience reaction. It's no different than Scott Coker

1131
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 2: looking at what's available to him and bringing big time

1132
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 2: fight cards to Dublin, which they continue to do France

1133
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 2: as well. But Luke, you got a question, though it's

1134
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: just the same, do they have the athletes to fill.

1135
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 3: Out this division.

1136
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: If this is more about a future partnership with Risen

1137
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: to sort of arise in to sort of funnel that

1138
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: to fuel this, it could be interesting moving forward. But

1139
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: it is a sort of tent another tent polish opportunity

1140
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: for Coker and company because you're also putting aj McKee

1141
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: on that fight against Patricky Pipple in the continuation of

1142
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: that Lightweight World Grand Prix for a million dollars. So

1143
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: I like the card. I certainly like the face of

1144
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 2: what it could be in this division of Foragucci wins this.

1145
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: But does this tease of future work between the two promotions.

1146
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: It feels like it does, right, Yeah, it does.

1147
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 4: And by the way, I don't think that scaling for

1148
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 4: one to twenty five is a bad idea. I actually

1149
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 4: like this call by Belatour for a couple of reasons. One, listen,

1150
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 4: it does seem to me that the Japanese playbook here

1151
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 4: is not necessarily a bad idea. But I don't think

1152
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 4: it's a needle mover for Belatore in the way that

1153
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: they imagine it.

1154
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: Like.

1155
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 4: In other words, these are good events that they're putting on.

1156
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: They are interesting. I'm excited to see them.

1157
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: They are better than the sort of typical one in Thackerville, Oklahoma.

1158
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 4: Please make no mistake about that. They're significantly bigger. It's

1159
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 4: good to see belatar versus rising in these like or

1160
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: actually just say Belatore fighters in these like giant arenas

1161
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 4: like they do in Europe and obviously in this particular case.

1162
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: So I like seeing that.

1163
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: But I think the Japan as a power center. I

1164
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: lived through it. I know what that looks like and

1165
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 4: what that feels like. We are long past that now

1166
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 4: to the extent that the Japanese are going to produce talent.

1167
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 4: You know, it was a big deal when Kazuyuki Fujita

1168
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 4: almost beat fat Or because wow, there's gonna be a

1169
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 4: could have been a Japanese heavyweight champion.

1170
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: That didn't happen.

1171
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: Most of the talent is going to be, you know,

1172
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: around one point seventy and down, and even significantly it

1173
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: smaller than that. So it does give them access to

1174
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 4: potentially the Japanese market in terms of talent, it's available,

1175
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 4: but when I think about where it's going to come from,

1176
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: I think a lot is going to come from Latin America,

1177
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: and of course not the stereotype or size either, but

1178
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: again that's going to feed a little bit more into

1179
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 4: the smaller weight classes. So opening up flyweight, I actually

1180
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 4: think is a pretty good idea. It's just the japan

1181
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 4: side of it. While these are like nice events and

1182
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 4: these are cool little remixes. My only complaint is not

1183
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 4: that I'm not enjoying it when I watch PC. It's

1184
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 4: just that Belatore has I think, a lot to do

1185
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 4: to turn its fortunes around, and I don't know that

1186
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 4: this meaningfully moves the needle in that direction.

1187
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: That's all I would say.

1188
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is interesting in that regard.

1189
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: Do you like moving the McKee Patricky pit Bull fight,

1190
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: which is interesting and sort of McKee's development in this

1191
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: new weight class, escalating from the victory over Spike Carlisle

1192
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: and the win in the last Rising crossover against the

1193
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: Toshi and also continuing the family feud, if you will,

1194
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: of mcke's two fight deal with Patricio Pippull. Do you

1195
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: like moving that to Japan and giving it a bigger

1196
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 2: close up in so.

1197
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 4: Much Sure, I listen aj who were a couple of

1198
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 4: the biggest standouts from the last belot horizing card.

1199
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: It was one Archiletta with.

1200
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 4: That incredible walkout, which, by the way, again the Japanese

1201
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 4: understand showmanship. Scott Koker understands showmanship. You just got a

1202
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: much better and think obviously one Archiletta understands it. So

1203
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 4: he obviously made a huge impression on the Japanese and

1204
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 4: they brought him back.

1205
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: That made sense.

1206
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 4: Remember a j McKee came out with that entire samurai

1207
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 4: outfit from soup to nuts, including the sword and everything else,

1208
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 4: and then he had you know, all those fights were

1209
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 4: a little bit decent, not amazing, but nevertheless he made

1210
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 4: a really strong oppression in the Japanese as well. The

1211
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 4: Brazilians obviously have a very direct relationship with the Japanese.

1212
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 4: There's obviously a huge diaspora of the Japanese in Brazil's

1213
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 4: influencer culture in a dramatic way. So just bringing some

1214
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 4: of these forces back together and remixing and where you

1215
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 4: were talking about making it a family affair as well,

1216
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: I think that's interesting. Look I'm not gonna sit here

1217
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 4: and back on the card. They put together a great card.

1218
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 4: It's a great card, like it's it's definitely cool. I'm

1219
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 4: excited to see it. It's just I don't know what

1220
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: the the typical North American MMA fan thinks about Japanese

1221
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: MMA other than almost not at all, and so trying

1222
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 4: to do these events are interesting, they're good, They're just

1223
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 4: not game changers for me.

1224
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 2: I have to say, though, I'm still on the idea

1225
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: that aj McKee is musty TV every time out, like

1226
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 2: obviously his talent speaks to that. But I am interested

1227
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: to see what this journey through this tournament is like

1228
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 2: for him, how he adapts to this weight class in

1229
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: the moment, and do we build toward the inevitability of

1230
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: a one million dollar final of him against Usman de

1231
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 2: Maga Medov, which would be, by the way, probably the

1232
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: best pure MMA fight that this promotion could make, right

1233
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,479
Speaker 2: outside of like spectacles, how about just what's the best

1234
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: fight you can make that might be it right there,

1235
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: and so that'll be interesting. We also, of course have

1236
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: the brother Patricio going for his third title not too

1237
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: far off from now, so a couple of things to

1238
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 2: watch for in belt or Luke.

1239
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: Another thing is I don't know if you heard that.

1240
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: We already know they're going to Dublin on September twenty third,

1241
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: and that's the Johnny Evlin middle title defense against Leon

1242
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: Edwards's brother, who we can probably soon if you especially

1243
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: if he beats Eblin, Luke, stop referring to him as

1244
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: Leon Edwards's brother as that family continues to grow. But

1245
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: how about Aaron Pico in really his toughest fight to

1246
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: date against Pedro Carvalio in the on that card, Luke,

1247
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: It's just about time and we thought if Pico had

1248
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: beaten Jeremy Kennedy that he would have gotten that title shot. Instead,

1249
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: he gets his toughest match up to date. Dude, this

1250
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: could be the real test we're looking for.

1251
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 4: For Well, listen, this is what we've been wanting from him,

1252
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 4: and we were supposed to get in the Jeremy Kennedy

1253
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 4: fight and then everyone saw his arm go out and

1254
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 4: Brandon Gibson's out there yanking on the arm and it

1255
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 4: didn't go well. So now they're going to match him

1256
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 4: what Pedro Carvalio, as you indicated on in September in

1257
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 4: Dublin on that Eblin versus Edwards card BC.

1258
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: I actually really liked this fight.

1259
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 4: I think it's a good fight for Aaron Pico and

1260
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 4: you know, listen, this is this is why Pico signing

1261
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: with Bellatore was a much better idea than like, I

1262
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 4: don't know if the UFC was entertaining him making his

1263
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 4: pro debut there, but Aaron Pico got fast in the

1264
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 4: wrong way. We all know the story. He's been in

1265
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 4: a redemption arc since then. That redemption arc could not

1266
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 4: have taken place in UFC, they say, for all the

1267
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 4: complaints that we have about it, he needed to get

1268
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 4: just the right touch, just the right opponent to build

1269
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 4: back not just his skill set, but his confidence as well.

1270
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: I think his confidence was really shaken and he has

1271
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 4: done that. He has looked tremendous. Pedro Carvolio represents the

1272
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 4: toughest challenge to him since the losing streak I think

1273
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 4: ended is what I would say. So I like this contest.

1274
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 4: Carvolio obviously going to be the hometown favorite in Dublin

1275
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: by virtue of.

1276
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: His SPG associations.

1277
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: Pico, I think, is going to have to use a

1278
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 4: lot of his wrestling, but also some of his striking

1279
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: as well, because Carvolio has shown some decent get ups

1280
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 4: in more recent times. It's a good fight for us

1281
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: to see exactly what we got with Aaron Picco and BC.

1282
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: I like your point. I think you said it. If

1283
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: Pico wins, he might get a title shot from this. Yeah.

1284
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: I think now's about the time. He's had enough time

1285
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 4: to recoup, He's had enough time to get better. Being

1286
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 4: in bellatur was the right fit for him at the

1287
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 4: right moment, and this is now Now's the time to

1288
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 4: start cashing in on moving up the ladder, I think.

1289
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: And Pico did bounce back in April against James Gonzalez

1290
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: won a three round decision in the first fight since

1291
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 2: the shoulder injury, so he proved that physically he's back,

1292
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: the wrestling was still there. I like his newfound reliance

1293
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: upon that certainly. But with Patricio taking a chance at

1294
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: the bantamweight crown, that does put the featherweight title on

1295
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: ice for a second. So if this is the route

1296
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: he has to go to get to that inevitable title shot,

1297
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 2: then hey, win or lose for Patricio pitpoll Luke against

1298
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: Sergio Pettis for the full bandamweight title. The idea of

1299
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: Pico if he beats Carvado fighting Patricio anyway at featherweight,

1300
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: another future attraction worth waiting for in the bellatour a world,

1301
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: So shout out on that side.

1302
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 4: Last note on this real quickly, I want to make

1303
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 4: a point they having McKee versus Pitbull, which is obviously

1304
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 4: part of that lightweight Grand Prix, don't lose sight of

1305
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 4: the fact that it's also a bellator versus a Bellatoor fighter.

1306
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 4: After obviously the Belatour fighters ran the table basically on

1307
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: the Japanese for the first crossover event. So it's a

1308
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 4: nice gesture from Cokeer to be like, hey, we're gonna

1309
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 4: take one of our tournament fights and give it to you.

1310
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 4: It's also them relieving rising from getting Obviously Kayasako is

1311
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: gonna fight. Why don't you Letta Vita Artiaga's on this

1312
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 4: fight against kind of what's na So although that's obviously

1313
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 4: what's obviously is a belt fighter as well, I'm just

1314
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 4: pointing out it's not directly Billator versus Rising in the

1315
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 4: way that it was over New Year's even I think

1316
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 4: that works to rise in benefit.

1317
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah and no, and I don't have to do this

1318
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: move anymore. Apologize.

1319
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah right, we can just you know that, and then

1320
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 4: you know, the crossburning, you can just stop all.

1321
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: That, you know what I'm saying.

1322
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, here we go there it is all right, Yes, Luke,

1323
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 2: have you ever been so mad at anybody that you

1324
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: ever farted in an envelope and then mailed it to them?

1325
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: You know why?

1326
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: Anonymously.

1327
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: I was just wondering if you had that level of

1328
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: grudge payback to you.

1329
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: No, I mean I do have that level of pettiness, but.

1330
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, all right, well, Luke, what we are not

1331
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: doing this week is.

1332
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: The ol we got one more thing I gotta get to.

1333
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 3: Oh get to your thing.

1334
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: Sorry, real quickly put this tweet up that we saw

1335
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 4: earlier today.

1336
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: Look at this. This comes to us.

1337
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 4: I keep mispronouncing his name, shouts to Alex Mahounan.

1338
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: I think they said. Rob Wilkinson, who of.

1339
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 4: Course won the PFL championship last season, is also out

1340
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 4: of his fight next week due to a failed drug test.

1341
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 4: This comes to us on the heels of that Vegas

1342
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,959
Speaker 4: event where like half the card popped afterwards.

1343
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: Guys, this is why I try to explain to people

1344
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 1: drugs are not just ramping it in the sport, which

1345
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: of course you know they are.

1346
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: I know.

1347
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: I was like, what about you, Sada.

1348
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's probably a little bit less used in the UFC, obviously,

1349
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 4: but it just goes to show that this comes to

1350
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 4: us from commission testing. The only way to fail commission

1351
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 4: testing is to not give a fuck if you get caught.

1352
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 4: That's really the only way possible. You have to brazenly

1353
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,479
Speaker 4: being used, or of course we have seen it before

1354
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 4: with like Tom Loll and other ones.

1355
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: There are contamination issues. I get that, but.

1356
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: Slopily misapplying the blockers in a sense.

1357
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 4: Luke, it's just it's a level of drug use where

1358
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 4: and again we'll have to see what Rob has to

1359
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: say in his defense.

1360
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the wider pool of everyone caught.

1361
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't look at that and say anything other

1362
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 4: than the guys who are using we're not making any

1363
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 4: attempts to conceal their use, because if you were, these

1364
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 4: tests are very very very very easy to beat.

1365
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Meheta just be Maheta just lost to Rob Wilkinson

1366
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: Thiago Santo's Pop thirty afterwards, and now the winning opponent

1367
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: does too, So it's like Luke, this is where you

1368
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 2: have to ask yourself, if you're Don Davis with two

1369
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: ends in company, is it actually better for me in

1370
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: the long run to have a cage that's smarter than

1371
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 2: anyone in the upper brast of the promotion, Right, It's

1372
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: like the smart move for the promotion would be to

1373
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: not catch these guys and let any everyone and anyone

1374
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: use Now we're replacing, unfortunately, an already slim pool of

1375
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: fighters that are have already been earmarked for a full

1376
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: tournament in season. I mean some of their biggest names

1377
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: now now Wilkinson's out, defending champion Bruno Capello's as we

1378
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: pre mentioned in the past, the heavyweight up popped and

1379
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 2: he's out too. So it's tough, Luke, pfl's pay per

1380
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: view transition couldn't come soon enough from the standpoint of

1381
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: like getting people where they have to tune in to

1382
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: see what happens. I thought, not last season, but the

1383
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: one before PFL like won me over in so many ways.

1384
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: The format, the.

1385
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 3: Announcers, the intensity, the fight, the roster too. Like overperformed

1386
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: last season.

1387
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 2: Look, I did feel like it was a bit of

1388
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: a step down from the idea of keeping us like

1389
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: have to tune in each time. Although I did watch

1390
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: the playoffs, I enjoyed the wins from the champions. They

1391
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 2: were all solid across the board. Do you feel like

1392
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: this season they're taking, unfortunately, like another step in the

1393
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: wrong direction. Like they're still getting the headlines of the

1394
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 2: Jake Paul signing and now the Angano news, but you know,

1395
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: Kayla Harrison lost yet she's not in the tournament, which

1396
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: is kind of head scratching. Like this season, I'm kind

1397
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 2: of waiting for that big PFL thing to happen, but

1398
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: it's probably not gonna happen till next year.

1399
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 4: Right, That's what we've been talking about. You can see

1400
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 4: the product that they currently have is a bridge to nowhere.

1401
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 4: It's a bridge to nowhere. There's nowhere they can take

1402
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: this and make money from it. Right, it doesn't work.

1403
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: You might like individual fighters.

1404
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: Who've done really well.

1405
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 4: There could be stories that matter to you more than

1406
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 4: others about someone's redemption and whatnot. Like I'm not here

1407
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 4: to say those aren't real to you or real to

1408
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 4: the athletes themselves. And hey, those checks cashing are certainly

1409
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 4: real in that sense, it's great. But if you're the

1410
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 4: person who has put money into the PFL and you're

1411
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 4: just asking have we made a dime? No, and you've

1412
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 4: not even come close. You've not come close to making

1413
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 4: any money. So the product as it's currently designed as

1414
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 4: a business is a failed business. This is why they're

1415
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: trying to pivot to another direction. It doesn't work, and

1416
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 4: you know it just it just goes to show the

1417
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 4: reality of athletics at the in MMA, especially outside the UFC,

1418
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 4: where it's like, dude, you cannot understand that level of MMA,

1419
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 4: which by the way includes one and you name it

1420
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 4: and anyone doing commission testing.

1421
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: Sure that level of MMA is a wash in drug use. Fact.

1422
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because a lot of the guys are washed too, Luke.

1423
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: They needed to survive in some unfortunately. But I don't know,

1424
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: I'd like to see more from the PFL here because

1425
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 2: maybe unlike some of the ones they're competing with, Luke,

1426
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: like you know, Bellator, we try to be honest in

1427
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: but you know, they're doing the best they can and

1428
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: I think right now they're overperforming from a matchmaking standpoint.

1429
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm interested in a bunch of these cards and the

1430
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: one million dollar gimmick of the tournament, like it's working

1431
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: with PFL right now, it's like, yeah, we can say okay,

1432
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 2: the uf UFC also needed to go through very lean times,

1433
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: had to risk a ton of money and take big swings,

1434
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: which they did by the way, with The Ultimate Fighter

1435
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: Season one. We all know the story there and they're

1436
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: here today. But PFL right now isn't trying to just survive.

1437
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: They aren't trying to just be competitors with one in

1438
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: Bellator out of that group of people that are behind

1439
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 2: the UFC. But have you know, carved out a really

1440
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: large identity which both one in Bellator has. PFL is

1441
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: actively saying, no, we are here to compete with you,

1442
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: like we talked about that Don Davis tweet from last week.

1443
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: Like they're actively saying we are coming on these little

1444
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: mishaps and missteps as we wait for next year. Dude,

1445
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: next year is gonna have to be massive, Like they're

1446
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 2: gonna have to get gimmicky, They're gonna have to get

1447
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: wild and crazy. Maybe they have to get lucky. Maybe

1448
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: it is Junior Dosantos against Enganu, but at least give

1449
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: us that, Like we gotta start seeing that soon because

1450
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: I feel like we're going back in the wrong direction

1451
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 2: again and I hate to see that. I want to

1452
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: see everybody you know, survive and succeed, Luke the best

1453
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: we can. But it's not easy. It ain't easy, brother,

1454
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 2: all right, it's not easy for this show to keep

1455
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 2: turning on the cameras every day. People think, oh, you

1456
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: guys win awards, You'll be alive forever. You know what

1457
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, You never know.

1458
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 3: What's happening in the real world, all right, you never know.

1459
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 4: With that in mind, BC, it's time for BC's Feces

1460
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 4: or whatever we're doing fans, so we.

1461
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: Were gonna do it. BC's FECs is a Monday installment here, Luke,

1462
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: it's not Monday.

1463
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 3: We skip that this week. We did a mailbag, so

1464
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 3: we will.

1465
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: Rebound this week. But sometimes a clip comes through and

1466
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 2: slips through the cracks. That's so good, dude. You gotta

1467
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: break rules on Wednesdays and say this is almost art.

1468
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 2: This is almost a fan submission, Luke. The best fight

1469
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 2: of this week. No, it's not happening in the Apex

1470
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: on Saturday night. It may have happened at Carbland Farms overnight. Luke.

1471
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if these two are in the same

1472
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: weight class or if a Commission was involved on this.

1473
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: But let's go to the videotape. I gotta get your

1474
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: reaction to the most viral finish this week in terms

1475
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 2: of fighting here.

1476
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: You gotta see this.

1477
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, come on and beat his ass.

1478
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 3: Beat his ass alone.

1479
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 2: Look, God, that's shades of Masvidal Askrin right.

1480
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

1481
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: We represent the Lollipop Guild. The Lollipop Guild.

1482
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: Wow.

1483
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that's the hand he was dealt Luke.

1484
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: But he did go out in a shield, which you

1485
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: have to respect, right, dude.

1486
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: She just she just need him, like uh, like you

1487
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: need like when you go to someone house and they've

1488
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: gott an aggressive dog and they jump on you and

1489
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: you kind of just knee him off, you know like that.

1490
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: He just she just she just need him right.

1491
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 3: In the grill, Hey, free has Beulah Luke just the same.

1492
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: That's what are people are still doing?

1493
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: Bullets stick, I.

1494
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: Feel dude, admit it. Our guy, Sugar, Sugar sweet baby

1495
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: Ray excuse me, Sugar Ray Flora is you know our guy?

1496
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 4: Right?

1497
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: PBC show sometimes works with some showtime. You know, one

1498
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: of the voices of boxing nobody loves has Bula more

1499
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 2: than that guy nobody.

1500
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: Dude, didn't Mikey think has Bullets stick was amazing.

1501
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 3: No, Mikey's fighting the battle of Burt Chrysler right now.

1502
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: He's fighting the Burt Kreischer battle now.

1503
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 4: But I distinctly recall when uh that has Bullet stuff

1504
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 4: was starting.

1505
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: He was like, Dude, this is the funniest shit I've

1506
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: ever seen in life.

1507
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: I'll back Mikey that I wanted to be a has

1508
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: Bulah hater, but I've come around. In fact, you guys

1509
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: have all told me stop putting has Bula clips and

1510
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: have you seen this ship?

1511
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 3: We're sick of him. I'm not sick of him yet.

1512
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: That Barstool interview, which was legendary and did a trillion views,

1513
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 2: that won me over Luke. But uh uh, but Mike's

1514
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: saying what I don't.

1515
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't know about funniest, but he has his moments, Mikey.

1516
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: No, I just wanted to point out Luke that I

1517
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: have limits in my fandom of has Beulah. But our

1518
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: boy ray Man is ride or Die.

1519
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, he is. He is president of the fan club.

1520
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying on my timeline less has bull

1521
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 4: of these days.

1522
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: Five year deal.

1523
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: More bbls Luke and your time. I'd love to hit

1524
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 2: that circle button on your Instagram. Look, it probably goes

1525
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 2: to to full on you know, produce, right, just full

1526
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: on a lot of you know what I'm saying, you know,

1527
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: a lot, a lot of a lot of melons in

1528
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: uh in yeah, wow, all right, there we go. Look

1529
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 2: that's all I got for that ship. See more ship

1530
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 2: to come your way. Uh next Monday. It's going to

1531
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 2: be a loaded back. But hey, you know what Wednesdays

1532
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 2: really is. That's the chance for the true artiste within

1533
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: you to come out when we give you the email

1534
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 2: address Morning Combat at gmail dot com. And waiting at

1535
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: the end of that rabbit hole is our producer, Mikey

1536
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 2: more Mile to receive your artwork, your tight T shirt shots,

1537
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 2: and our merch or your desperate cries for attention. But

1538
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: I don't shame you for that, because this is your time.

1539
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: This is your moment right Like up there, up there,

1540
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,799
Speaker 2: this is their time, but down.

1541
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 3: Here this is your time.

1542
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: Your time. Goonies never die. This is fansub missions. You've

1543
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 2: got mail fewrs all right, Luke? Would you say these

1544
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 2: have been hot lately?

1545
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: Would you say that they've been hotter, hotter.

1546
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 3: Okay, so you'll shout out like average fan Joe Everett.

1547
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,799
Speaker 2: What's that guy's name? The average Joe artist on fire

1548
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 2: with the with the merch ideas lately there, But let's

1549
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: hear from Cubby's fan eighty, he says, fellas. This week,

1550
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 2: I've been on an awesome family vacate at the Smoky Mountains.

1551
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: In addition to the awesome views on the multiple decks

1552
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 2: with hot tubs, fire pits, and indoor fun like a

1553
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: pool table and shuffle board, it also has a theater

1554
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 2: room so I can chill and catch up on some MK. Luke.

1555
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: This guy is one of our biggest MK fans. He's

1556
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 2: a great music fan, by the way. And what do

1557
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: you think about him renting out the joint here and

1558
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: putting up some Luke Thomas on the screen.

1559
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 4: Well, that part is cool, But the carpeting looks like

1560
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 4: imagine if Bill Cosby Sweater was a person. This is

1561
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 4: what it would look like if they ejaculated all over

1562
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 4: the room.

1563
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: I think it needs more GHB to be clear, Luke, Okay,

1564
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1565
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 3: I think it needs yeah.

1566
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 2: A couple a couple of valliums in there. Too.

1567
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 3: All right, yes, thank you Cubbies fan eighty.

1568
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 2: Let's go over to Louis l u I E. Would

1569
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 2: you pronounce that Louis?

1570
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah right, l u I E.

1571
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 4: No, So that would depend on the person, but that

1572
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,480
Speaker 4: would either be Lewis or Louis.

1573
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 2: That is l u I E.

1574
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: Oh, l u I E. Yeah, I guess that's Louis.

1575
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:50,480
Speaker 1: Sorry I misunderstood.

1576
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:51,839
Speaker 3: UIs Garcia from Toledo.

1577
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 2: He says, I'm a first time contributor, but fans since

1578
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 2: the MMA beat days. Here's a few photos of me

1579
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 2: sporting my MK gear with the wife. We were on

1580
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,839
Speaker 2: vacation in La. These photos were taken at the Griffith

1581
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: Observatory overlooking La. I did have one dude approached me

1582
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: after seeing my shirt who said, Luke and BC rule

1583
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 2: love the show. Keep up the good work gents Toledo

1584
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: shouting out here, dude, I was.

1585
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: With my family.

1586
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 4: I never ever go to Georgetown ever, and I was

1587
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 4: in Georgetown like the first time in years, and I

1588
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 4: was walking on Wisconsin Avenue when somebody recognized me was like,

1589
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 4: do I lose every day?

1590
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 3: Cool?

1591
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: My gosh, how does Louie's wife think it's okay to

1592
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: wear that morning hub shirt though, Luke in public like

1593
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 2: you pull off.

1594
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: If she's like my wife, she's just given up, you know.

1595
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, great, there you go.

1596
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: Do appreciate the male viewers that we have here and

1597
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: the female ones who stand by their side. In fact, today,

1598
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,480
Speaker 2: happy anniversary by the way to one of our great listeners,

1599
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: Rojieve his wife Lexi there in Vegas came to our

1600
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: live show. Enjoy it there, Luke. I caught up with

1601
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: them on my only Pipes channel Cameo dot com slash

1602
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell one of the best scams in the business. Luke,

1603
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Advice you know who to

1604
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 2: turn to. Let's go to Colin. Hello, luc and BC

1605
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: as a p one that also trains regularly. I've often

1606
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: thought that an mk rash guard would be a great

1607
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: product for those more likely to put our feet on

1608
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: the mats than we are on Pelosi's desk. I took

1609
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: the Rising Sun logo and added a belt while using

1610
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: Luke and BC's faces to adorn the sleeves. Maybe this

1611
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 2: could generate some ideas for whoever replaces RJ. Grundle Maker.

1612
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 2: For those of us who want to rep MK, while

1613
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 2: sneaking in rare naked chokes like BC would do if

1614
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: Luke turned his back too long. You're damn right, I

1615
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 2: would may all your hose loyalty, lift weights in the

1616
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: front yard or whatever. The actual sign off is.

1617
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:41,799
Speaker 3: It's Colin.

1618
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 2: That's good. That's good.

1619
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: Shit, it's pretty good. He's got a little bit like

1620
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: Halloween theme color.

1621
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: But yes, would you like this this turn of phrase

1622
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: here Average Joe has opened a new era in the

1623
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: post dunkle Maker roun Luke of people, saying like, look,

1624
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: I think we can make even better merchant you guys

1625
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 2: have ever put on you know what I mean? Hopefully

1626
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: we have an infrastructure moving forward that still supports merchandise.

1627
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 4: Look, that's like, I don't really know what's gonna happen

1628
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,480
Speaker 4: to that, so we'll see.

1629
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 3: Let's go over to history HD.

1630
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: He says, Hey, Donks, I decided to poke some fun

1631
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 2: at Luke's new put the camera on me bit. Can

1632
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: you guys tell each other your least favorite bits that

1633
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: each of you do? Thanks, Donks.

1634
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's so mean, but so funny. I

1635
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: can't hate on it.

1636
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 2: I actually like the Luke put the camera on me

1637
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: bit It does remind me because I was actually a fan,

1638
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: not a friend of yours back then, but a fan

1639
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 2: of Luke Thomas's pisted and did watch it and chuckle

1640
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: on the regular. I don't know how that show died

1641
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 2: so easily, Luke, that segment I killed.

1642
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: I ever told you that story?

1643
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kill a lot of great things in your life. Luke,

1644
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: what is going on here?

1645
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: Like, I haven't killed you yet? So does that mean

1646
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: you are?

1647
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1648
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 4: I mean long story short, Like the the amount of

1649
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 4: it was just disruptive to what I was trying to.

1650
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 1: Do on the MMA side.

1651
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 4: Okay, So I one time just went to the bruss like,

1652
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 4: I think I have to stop doing it because they

1653
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 4: pitched it to me. They're like, we want you to

1654
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 4: do this, and I was like okay, and I gave

1655
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 4: it like a run of like don't know, six seven

1656
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 4: weeks or.

1657
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: Whatever it was, and uh, I just couldn't. I couldn't.

1658
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: I didn't have the time for it.

1659
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, History HD asked you specifically, which bit that

1660
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: BC does makes you the most annoyed?

1661
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 4: Oh?

1662
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: That one?

1663
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: What the French The French rape teacher vibes.

1664
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: That the horny French waiter that's that one.

1665
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Luke, I hate when uh oh, when that

1666
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 2: gimmick you do when you try to speed up the

1667
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: show all the time.

1668
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 3: That's the worst.

1669
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: It's the worst, right.

1670
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 4: It's you're sitting here blaming that on me when you

1671
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 4: know you're just lying to the fucking audience, dirt bag.

1672
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: Oh boy, okay, let's go it over to Mat. He says,

1673
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: this is not a photoshop. Thanks for another top tier

1674
01:14:55,040 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 2: RSD from Matt and England. Looke, the object in your

1675
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: mirror maybe closer than they appear.

1676
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 4: Wow, dude, I can't stand that chair and uh I'd

1677
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 4: like to chuck it off the roof.

1678
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we all feel like Shaq's girlfriends right looking

1679
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 2: at you, Like, how does that way work? You know

1680
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 2: what I mean?

1681
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 3: It's like yeah, right, I mean you know, Luke, he

1682
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 3: must have a.

1683
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 4: Piece, right, dude has like a great Dane and you know,

1684
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 4: a Pomeranian, you know what I mean?

1685
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, just an absolute eel in his dungarese. You

1686
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1687
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: Just wow, I meant the piece that he must feel

1688
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 2: inside himself. Look not necessarily that honking hammer. Now I'm

1689
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: kidding there. Let's go over to Henry. He says, no,

1690
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: I saw this guy.

1691
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 4: This guy walks his dog in front of my yard,

1692
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 4: and he had this enormous dog, some giant Schnauzer.

1693
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: Right, this thing was fucking huge. Had to be like

1694
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: one fifty pounds or more easy. And he's one of

1695
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 1: these guys.

1696
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 4: He actually wears a bunch of like death metal shirts

1697
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 4: when he walks his dog out here. He seems unfriendly,

1698
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 4: but not like mean, just you know, he hasn't like

1699
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 4: neutered his dog. So this dog walking, this dog's gotta

1700
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 4: be like ten years old. So this dog's ball bag

1701
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,480
Speaker 4: is just w w why like the tail on a hammerhead,

1702
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just you know, really just

1703
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 4: fraying to and fro.

1704
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: And it's like, man, you should probably do something about that.

1705
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: Bro.

1706
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: Your dog's balls are really you got like a dog's

1707
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: a trailer he's.

1708
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 4: Carrying around back there, just two humongous testicles.

1709
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 2: See those dogs balls they were weird? Yeah, yeah, I

1710
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: got it, I got it right.

1711
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 1: I was like, just you know, your fucking dog, bro.

1712
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from Henry from La. He says,

1713
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: I don't trust BC's scoring, not because I think hany

1714
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 2: one but because BC's reliance on the quote it's a

1715
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 2: math equation does not inspire confidence due to his lack

1716
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: of mathematical prowess, as demonstrated in the attached photo.

1717
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 3: But it is a math problem.

1718
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:56,759
Speaker 2: But it's a math equation.

1719
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:57,879
Speaker 3: But it's a math equation.

1720
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 4: If you drove one third of the distance of a

1721
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 4: trip that you were on on the first day, yeah,

1722
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 4: and then sixty miles on the second day, and you

1723
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 4: still had half the trip to drive, what is the

1724
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 4: total length in miles.

1725
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 3: Of your trip three days that we're driving?

1726
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, he did want?

1727
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 5: He did want?

1728
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 3: How many on the first day?

1729
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: This is already making my brain hurt.

1730
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: I pulled this one because it was the easiest one

1731
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: I could find.

1732
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 5: All right, he drove for three days.

1733
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 3: The first day drove a third of the trip.

1734
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the amount of days is not really relevant. What

1735
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 1: is X?

1736
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 3: Okay, look let me guess here. All right, So the

1737
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 3: total the second day was sixty miles.

1738
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 5: The first day was the one third of the total distance. So,

1739
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 5: but we were only halfway finished at the end of

1740
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 5: the second day.

1741
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: Luke, My final answer is I look at you know, Look,

1742
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: it's a math equation, and the easy equation to justify

1743
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: that video was Delta eight plus math. That's not equal

1744
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: great success on live television. All right, thank you, thank

1745
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 2: you so much. Yeah, yes, all right, I survived that though,

1746
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 2: Thank you, Henry. He also says I do ink drawings.

1747
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 2: I drew you too. On these postcards. I can send

1748
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 2: them if you want or burn them. They're fine, Luke,

1749
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 2: Sorry I jacked your face up a bit. Have a

1750
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 2: nice day and may all your gains stay frosty hose.

1751
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: Dude, why is my ear the size of my ass?

1752
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that's decent freehand work there from Henry.

1753
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: Look at that, Luke, that yours is better?

1754
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1755
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 3: I mean my beard has never looked that good. But

1756
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 3: uh yeah, yeah, that's decent. That's decent.

1757
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: He should have had you with one eye closed like

1758
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: a real life.

1759
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1760
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1761
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 4: Do you know how my wife pronounces popeye? How I'm

1762
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 4: not doing a bit like the first time she said,

1763
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, what word are you saying?

1764
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: Paul peje wow? Polj po pege wow?

1765
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: Wow. All right, that's great, Luke. I don't understand Latin

1766
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: America is reasoning on wanting to pronounce wise as Jay's Luke.

1767
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 2: I know we've done the daddy yanky bit. You see

1768
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 2: the guy that wants spoiler alert. You see the guy

1769
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 2: that just won the Survivor season. By the way, he

1770
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: was one of the best characters of all time. It

1771
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 2: looks like Yam yam, but they call him jam.

1772
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1773
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 3: They call Joel Romero Joey all the time.

1774
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 4: Right, that's right, and that the way, that's why it's

1775
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 4: not Joel Romero. It's Joel Romero.

1776
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like that at all. I mean, you

1777
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: expect me to try to pronounce shard Luke. I ain't

1778
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 2: doing this.

1779
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 4: And you see it all kinds of ways, like oh,

1780
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 4: you'll go to the grocery store down there and like

1781
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 4: obviously like here you know, people who work will have

1782
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 4: their name tags whatever, and you'll see like Jennifer, uh, Jeffrey,

1783
01:19:58,800 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1784
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,879
Speaker 1: It's like it's like is it is it really Jennifer.

1785
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say this.

1786
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 2: Well, papeg Looke, there you go. Thank you, Henry for

1787
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 2: your submissions. Finally, a veteran in these parts, Alan W

1788
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 2: says sometimes it's hard to figure out Luke's ethos when

1789
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: it comes to the donktum of MK whether it's slamming

1790
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,440
Speaker 2: the fans for being Juggalos and Jan sixers to criticizing

1791
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: their tattoos and not answering their d ms. Seems like

1792
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 2: Luke wants to keep the fans at arm's length, if

1793
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 2: not outright wanting to run away from them. That expresses.

1794
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: Okay, that is that is that.

1795
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 4: Happy danger mouse and uh not you.

1796
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 1: Nike's fight is there on the right he cat. Yes, yes, dude,

1797
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 1: that is unbelievably good. But hold on this thing.

1798
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 4: Look, I don't answer dms, dude. My dms are filled

1799
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 4: with m K donks. What I don't do is answer

1800
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 4: every single DM because I can't.

1801
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 2: Oh that's a humble brag. That's that's It's not different

1802
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 2: if I had just literally I just ghost and post.

1803
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 3: You're basically like I'm more famous than you BC.

1804
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 1: Oh God, get the out of here with this.

1805
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: There's too many questions.

1806
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: I'll show you.

1807
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 4: I will show you my inbox. I will show it

1808
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 4: to you. You are gonna look at it, and then

1809
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 4: I want you, with a straight face, to tell me

1810
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 4: you can maintain this every day, you can answer every

1811
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 4: single person every day. You're out of your mind, because

1812
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 4: what ends up happening is is not just that the

1813
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 4: new wave comes in the old wave wants to keep

1814
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 4: up their conversations as well. Dude, it goes on and

1815
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 4: on and on. It is not possible to keep that up.

1816
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: It is not.

1817
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 2: When you have that's right. I'm not saying you have

1818
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: to go out of your way, but you do sort

1819
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 2: of stiff arm and run from the idea. I mean, like, look,

1820
01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,799
Speaker 2: is that to protect your internal organs?

1821
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 3: If it is, I respect that.

1822
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: I think this is grossly overstated. And what I don't

1823
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: do is like what you do, which is just open

1824
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 1: your doors and let stray animals in and then they're

1825
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: pissing and shitting on the floor and tearing up your

1826
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: furniture and you know, stealing your organs and everything else.

1827
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't play that game.

1828
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: Look, there's a little bit of magic in everybody.

1829
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 1: It's just up to also.

1830
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 4: Last thing I'll say on this specie The Running Man,

1831
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 4: super underrated Schwarzenegger movie.

1832
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta comment with that

1833
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 2: there because I went on my son Isaac is real

1834
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 2: into eighties and nineties action movies, and I went on

1835
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 2: a Schwarzenegger run with him, and it's one of the

1836
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: bonding moments that I'll you know, care for in my

1837
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 2: heart for the rest of my life. Right, I mean,

1838
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 2: my son looked when when remember when he met Usain Bolt.

1839
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: He asked the Wish people to meet Arnold and they

1840
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 2: were like, no, he's busy, Like you know what I mean,

1841
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 2: like this is what he wants. We watched Running Man,

1842
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 2: and I gotta say, just it just hasn't aged well.

1843
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: The premise still rules. I'll never forget the feeling when

1844
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 2: it came out. I watched it, but I don't think

1845
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,879
Speaker 2: it actually holds up as a movie. It's so gimmick

1846
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: heavy in comparison to the other prime action moments in

1847
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 2: Schwarzenegger's Cannon, including Commando Predator, like all you know Raw Deal,

1848
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 2: which might actually secretly might be the best of them,

1849
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: all that no one talks about. It's just not on

1850
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 2: that level. It's gimmick heavy looks.

1851
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 4: I couldn't possibly disagree more. First of all, it's very

1852
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 4: different from the book, which was written by Stephen King.

1853
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 4: It's a short book. I think it's like two hundred

1854
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 4: pages or less. It's easy to read, and that's very

1855
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 4: very different, Like there's a real like dystopian feel in

1856
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 4: a different way in that movie. Mikey says he liked

1857
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 4: Last Action Hero. Last Action Hero is one of my

1858
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 4: least favorite Swartzigger movies.

1859
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: I like it.

1860
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 4: I like it, but I like Running Man more. Running Man.

1861
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 4: It was prescient in many ways. It was gimmicky, but

1862
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,919
Speaker 4: it was gimmicky by design. It was designed to pillory

1863
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,959
Speaker 4: and mock this sensationalism that was growing on American television

1864
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 4: at that time and sort of like seeing where it

1865
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 4: was headed and what it would look like and where

1866
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 4: it would inevitably end, like what this was ultimately all about.

1867
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 4: So yeah, they got Schwarzenegger putting barbed wire through people's

1868
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 4: necks and stuff like that to get the gore factor.

1869
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 4: But that was designed to mock a certain kind of

1870
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 4: growing version of entertainment and how uncomfortable people were about it,

1871
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 4: and it brought to life some of those fears in

1872
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 4: a more game showy way by design to make it palatable.

1873
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 2: While that's not lost on me that there was a

1874
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 2: larger attempt to produce a message. You got to watch

1875
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six's Network if you really want.

1876
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a better movie, Yes, yes.

1877
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 2: I mean that's a masterpiece, and it's such a auricle

1878
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 2: in advanced Luke, so far out of predicting what the

1879
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 2: future of reality TV would look like. I just feel

1880
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 2: like it just doesn't hold up to that tight core.

1881
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: Like Looke, Commando is the most over the top of

1882
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 2: movie of all time in that action run, but it's

1883
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: meant to be. So that's separate and it's great it's

1884
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 2: in there. Predator, we could agree it's arguably his best.

1885
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,879
Speaker 2: Like it's just perfect right, it's sci fi grimy, but also.

1886
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: It's pretty jungle war.

1887
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 2: I do think that total recall is a bit bloaded,

1888
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 2: but actually still hands up being holds up being better

1889
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 2: than Running Man. Luke, there you go with the Predator

1890
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 2: right there, I shout out, Look, I just can't see.

1891
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 2: I think you haven't rewatched it enough in a while.

1892
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 2: I need you to rewatch the Running Man and then

1893
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 2: tell me, no, BC, it holds up like Predator Commando,

1894
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 2: raw deal. Hey, I even put Running Man is not

1895
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 2: as good as that Jim Belushi crossover one that was

1896
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 2: that Red Heat that uh yeah, that Schwarzenegger did too.

1897
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 2: I think even that's better. Twins is better, Luke, Okay,

1898
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: Running Man.

1899
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 1: So I recently rewatched Twins.

1900
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 4: When I was a kid, I was like, this movie

1901
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 4: is amazing because I'm all Schwarzenegger. And I watched it again,

1902
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 4: I'm like, right, Danny DeVito carried this movie like that

1903
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 4: was not good because of Schwarzenegger.

1904
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: So that was interesting to me.

1905
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 4: Although I did like it Red Heat, I like, I

1906
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:51,440
Speaker 4: think putting Red Heat over the Running.

1907
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: Man is insane. I can't even anyway, just that you're wrong.

1908
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 3: Raw Deal is about twice as good as is Running Man.

1909
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 4: Raw Deal's pretty good. I agree, Raw Deal's pretty good. Yeah,

1910
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 4: I mean, there's definitely some good ones. Terminator two obviously

1911
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 4: is one of the biggest ones you could put up

1912
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 4: there a Terminator as well, but I think Running Man

1913
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 4: classic Schwarzenegger one of.

1914
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 2: My Look, we haven't said rip to Running Man. Co

1915
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 2: star and UFC one color commentator Jim Brown. Did you

1916
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 2: see when he did pass and arguably seriously the greatest

1917
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 2: NFL player of all time pro football player? Did you see?

1918
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 2: That's part high up in his bio from some sites.

1919
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: Was a former MMA announcer, pioneering MMA announcer.

1920
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately he didn't have a whole lot

1921
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 4: to add because No one knew what the hell they

1922
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 4: were looking at the time, but was I'm glad he

1923
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 4: has some kind of connection to the community, you know.

1924
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 3: I mean he was an absolute badass across the board.

1925
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one of the best, one of the best

1926
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 4: athletes of the twentieth century, right yeah, Like.

1927
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: Arguably the greatest collegiate lacrosse player of all time.

1928
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 4: They had to change the rules of lacrosse because he

1929
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 4: was so dominant. We just think about that.

1930
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 2: Right yeah, And the totals he had in twelve and

1931
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 2: fourteen game seasons in rushing yards comparative to what we

1932
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,879
Speaker 2: see today. Uh, it still stands out as incredibly impressive.

1933
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Speaker 2: But people aren't here to hear about that absolute bullshit here, Luke,

1934
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Speaker 2: They're here for you to end the show. Okay, ninety

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Speaker 2: minutes on the dot?

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Speaker 1: Bro, How cool is that?

1937
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Speaker 2: That's pretty cool? That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's pretty goddamn awesome.

1939
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Speaker 2: I forget how I bet your office right now smells

1940
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: like stale farts and sandwich meat, no question about it.

1941
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Speaker 2: Like definitely, I could see it in the air, just

1942
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: floating right like's like, why.

1943
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Speaker 1: Does your room smell like fried boloneyan sadness.

1944
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Speaker 2: I don't know is that Keith Peterson? Is that you?

1945
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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, dude, we gotta do an RSD with Keith

1946
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Speaker 4: Peterson and like or Josh, we can even b see,

1947
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 4: we can even say to him, hey man, no mm

1948
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Speaker 4: a questions.

1949
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Speaker 1: We just want to know why your voice is like that.

1950
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Speaker 1: You know, we just jode.

1951
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Speaker 2: You know that he was in that that he was

1952
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 2: in like a screaming metal group.

1953
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Speaker 4: Like that's yeah what I'm saying. I want to hear

1954
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Speaker 4: those stories, you know what I mean?

1955
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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean I'd like to I'd like to

1956
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Speaker 2: smell him, to be very fair with you, Luke, I

1957
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: let you know, I'd like to get Domina.

1958
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 4: Cruz only told me awesome things about this guys like

1959
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 4: this guy smells like booze and whoch.

1960
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Speaker 1: I'm like, right, we got a party with that guy,

1961
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 1: you know.

1962
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Speaker 2: Do you see? Ray Longo was like nah, nah, not booze.

1963
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Speaker 2: He smells like cigarettes. Okay, thank you, Ray, I love you.

1964
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Speaker 3: I love Ray. By the way, what an RSD that was?

1965
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Speaker 4: So let's remind everyone r SD is available course YouTube

1966
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Speaker 4: dot com Slash Morning Combat. We just had one come

1967
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 4: out on social so you can check us out there

1968
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 4: as well. For all of the clips from that interview

1969
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Speaker 4: and everything else that we do on Instagram, on TikTok,

1970
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Speaker 4: on every other place. Go check that out YouTube dot

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Speaker 4: com slash Morning Combat to get the full ray long experience.

1972
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Speaker 4: We're back on Friday. We'll have content for you tomorrow

1973
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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 1: Anything else.

1975
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Speaker 4: We got a plug b seed the merch store Morningcombat

1976
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Speaker 4: dot Store. You can go there showtime dot Hey, are.

1977
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 2: You really excited about Crawford Spencer? What?

1978
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: Dude?

1979
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't had a chance to talk about it

1980
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 4: together beyond the dude like almost intimidated by how how

1981
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 4: hard the work is going to be to cover that

1982
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 4: fight appropriately. But I cannot It's it was the one

1983
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 4: fight that I wanted in all of combat sports. People

1984
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,799
Speaker 4: were like I wanted, you know, obviously Jones versus Francis

1985
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 4: is a huge one too, like maybe that's right behind it,

1986
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 4: you know, But for me, the one I wanted to

1987
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 4: see the most. Dude, I just cannot overstate even though

1988
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 4: those guys are a little bit on the older side.

1989
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 4: Three three thirty five, it is a meeting of extraordinary talent,

1990
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 4: generational talent, and dude, did I do you not remember

1991
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 4: this when I did a we did a co interview

1992
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Speaker 4: with the Showtime Boxing podcast guys Eric Raskin and Karen mulvaney,

1993
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 4: and I even said there's a chance we could get

1994
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 4: two of them. With the dual rematch clause and either

1995
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 4: party can trigger it, we could end up getting in

1996
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three slash twenty twenty four to Spence Crawford fights.

1997
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Speaker 1: Think about how crazy that is.

1998
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we all just have to forget that

1999
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 2: we were mad last year. That's really it, because the

2000
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 2: fight's still great. And I got dead wronged privately by

2001
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 2: people I was saying the wrong ages when Floyd and

2002
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 2: Manny fought. Look, they were actually thirty eight and thirty

2003
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 2: six when Mayweather Pachiale finally happened at twenty fifteen. Obviously

2004
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 2: though they were still one and two pomp for pounds,

2005
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 2: so it wasn't you know. But they're thirty five and

2006
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 2: thirty three Crawford and Spence respectively. Not too late later

2007
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,320
Speaker 2: than we would have wanted, but not too late. Bro,

2008
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Speaker 2: We're still going to see all that we need to

2009
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Speaker 2: see from you.

2010
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Speaker 1: You know.

2011
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Speaker 4: I got to say after Davis Garcia, the last thing

2012
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 4: I'll say is this, I do think that in the

2013
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 4: end Tank fighting Hector Garcia, even though he ended up

2014
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,679
Speaker 4: fighting at mean, obviously he was a fellow South Paul.

2015
01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 4: I think just staying warm really benefited him in the end,

2016
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 4: and it didn't really help Ryan Garcia. And so I

2017
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 4: was kind of like poo pooing that Aveneesan fight that

2018
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 4: Crawford took because it got in the way of the

2019
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 4: Spence fight in theory anyway. But now that the Spence

2020
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 4: fight is made, that Aveneten fight might end up being

2021
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 4: really crucial for him because Spence hasn't fought since Ugas.

2022
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 4: What's it gonna be like thirteen months and see fault

2023
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 4: when they finally get in there, So big, big layoff

2024
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 4: could be could be huge in terms of implications.

2025
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Speaker 2: They get like a sixteen month laught something close to that.

2026
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,680
Speaker 2: But uh, by the way, we mentioned last week that

2027
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 2: Tank's co trainer had been saying public, hey, we wouldn't

2028
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 2: mind fighting Shakur. Tank's actual trainer, Uh, Calvin Ford just

2029
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 2: said the other day to Boxing seeing Luke, as much

2030
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: as they would be willing to take the East Sock

2031
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 2: Cruise rematch, and they don't like, they don't hate that fight.

2032
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 2: They would actually prefer Devin Haney. So now we're hearing

2033
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 2: them say the right names publicly that you would.

2034
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: Want to hate.

2035
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 2: Hani is a free agent, dude.

2036
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 3: We got to see where they We gotta see where

2037
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 3: that goes.

2038
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 4: We Haine is gonna here's my one my official guests.

2039
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 4: Haine signs with Eddie Hearn and tries to fight pro Gray.

2040
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 1: That's what I think.

2041
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Eddie, well you could get pro Gray. Ryan Garcia

2042
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 2: is also on that side of the street. But Luke,

2043
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 2: Eddie Hearn had, you know, his latest interviews talking about

2044
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 2: Haney after the Loma fight didn't didn't really sound like

2045
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 2: that was gonna happen.

2046
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 3: So no, I don't know, I don't know.

2047
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2048
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: Well where were Okay? Does he go back to top?

2049
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,719
Speaker 2: Certainly possible. You could get Alma Remit, you could fight Shakur.

2050
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 2: You can move up to one forty where you've got

2051
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 2: Tayo Femo, Josh Taylor, Jose Ramirez, all that. But could

2052
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 2: the PBC be an option where you consider fights could

2053
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 2: happen with Tank, Rolie, Frank Martin. There's plenty of names

2054
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 2: there at one forty as well. We'll see, we'll see,

2055
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 2: we'll see what Devin's up to, Luke, I'm interested.

2056
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 4: All right, Well that's it for us. I want to

2057
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 4: thank everyone who watched. Welcome back. We had a live

2058
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Speaker 4: show today. Live again on Friday. We'll have a lot

2059
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 4: of fun getting you read ready for we'll do let's see,

2060
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Speaker 4: okay bet everything else that's associated with Friday programming more

2061
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:40,799
Speaker 4: tomorrow as well. So for Mikey Morms and CBS Sports.

2062
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 4: That's Brian Campbell with a very pensive look on his face.

2063
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 4: Look at that piece of shit. Absolute dirt bag. All right,

2064
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 4: for that dirt bag and another one. Thank you guys

2065
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 4: so much for watching. Until next time, all of your gains.

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Speaker 2: Be loyal.