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Speaker 2: What goome morning to you, Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Just want to make sure it's a three hour show.

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Speaker 2: Some reason I had in my head that maybe four

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Speaker 3: I'm bone it's sour. Why not it's a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: I had that in my head. Dan, Good morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Doug.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we're broadcasting live from sunny southern California,

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Speaker 2: which is was my home, not my home, so it's

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Speaker 2: good to be back with the boys profed on the

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Speaker 2: ones and twos and our esteemed producer Hiker extraordinary Jason

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Speaker 2: Stewart who's at Dodgers, My Angels, my Brewers. Hey, can

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Speaker 2: we talk about something for a second. We're going to

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Speaker 2: get into the Taylor Swift on the on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Right you joined the Kelsey's. I think that's it. I

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Speaker 2: think it's it's I mean, great sports talk morning radio fodder.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: But this George web Place Okay. So here's why it's

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Speaker 2: you have a lot of people talking about things that

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Speaker 2: they don't know. It's something that frustrates me a great deal.

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Speaker 2: But I actually live in the state of Wisconsin, and

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Speaker 2: I didn't know about George Webb. I am very fluent

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Speaker 2: in several other burger places that are Wisconsin. You know, Culver's,

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Speaker 2: I know the Culver's is also national, Freddy's which is

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Speaker 2: also national, but amazing burgers. I didn't know about this

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Speaker 2: George Web place. But I have a bunch of questions.

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Speaker 3: Dan, Well, Doug, I'm gonna tell you, I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: I can answer them because it is more of a

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Speaker 3: Milwaukee thing than Wisconsin thing. So just a Milwaukee place, Yeah, yeah, yes,

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Speaker 3: And so when we talk about I know a little

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Speaker 3: of the history tied in with the Brewers' winning streaks

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Speaker 3: and what they've done, but I can't say I've ever

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Speaker 3: been to a George web restaurant. Okay, but here's the question.

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Speaker 3: So you get free what burger? You get free berger

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Speaker 3: A free burger if the Brewers win twelve in a row.

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Speaker 2: And they won twelve in a row with a dominating

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Speaker 2: win yesterday over the Pittsburgh Pirates, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and this is something that isn't just if USC

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Speaker 3: wins on Saturday, you get a free donut and then

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Speaker 3: it goes away the next year. This has been a

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Speaker 3: thing with George Webb for decades, even going back to

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Speaker 3: when the Braves were in Milwaukee. There was a tie

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Speaker 3: into it. But it's happened so infrequently that it becomes

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Speaker 3: such a huge story. But Brewer fans know about it

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Speaker 3: because of the history of nineteen eighty seven. It did

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Speaker 3: happen in twenty eighteen. But yes, the free hamburger on

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Speaker 3: the twelfth straight win has been the talk of the town.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you have to have a ticket in order

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Speaker 2: to get the burger. Anybody gets a burger.

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Speaker 3: You could show up to a George Webb on a

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Speaker 3: specific day and anybody can get a hamburger.

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Speaker 2: Okay. This is how you know your low budget, right.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna get a free burger, do you get

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Speaker 2: the fries and a drink and pay for it or

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Speaker 2: do you just go No, just take some water. I

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Speaker 2: just want some water. I'm gonna have a bus. You're

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Speaker 2: talking to a guy.

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Speaker 3: Chick fil A used to run a promo during the

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Speaker 3: college football season where if you wear a teen T shirt,

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Speaker 3: you'll get a free chicken sandwich. I went to a

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Speaker 3: couple different ones here in southern California. Move, I get it.

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Speaker 3: You're talking to it. You're talking to a guy who

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Speaker 3: in college? Do they does the Italian fast food chain

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Speaker 3: Fazzoli still exist?

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Speaker 4: Don't know?

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Speaker 3: Can we can we use the Google machine?

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Speaker 5: I think it still does, but it is far far diminished.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, who would have thought drive through spaghetti?

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Speaker 2: Probably not the best this idea, but in still Water, Oklahoma,

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Speaker 2: they closed at ten o'clock. And when your low budget,

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Speaker 2: up you're like, hey man, you guys gonna throw away

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Speaker 2: all those breadsticks? Like, how about you throw some breadsticks in?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, chicken in there? How we just throw some chicken

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Speaker 2: Like you pull up, like, hey, nine fifty six, you guys,

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Speaker 2: you canna throw all that chicken away?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Just throw it out in the bucket, sir? You only

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Speaker 2: ordered a two piece? How about about fifteen biscuits as well?

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Speaker 2: I used to work in a mall in college. So

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Speaker 2: same thing. What are the cinep what's the cinnabon gonna

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Speaker 2: do with the cinnamon rolls that have sat in the

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Speaker 5: Yes, I think Jimmy Johns has a system in place now,

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Speaker 5: at least it was when I still live near Jimmy

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Speaker 5: Johns where it's like all their bread that's about to

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Speaker 5: of it for like a buck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, obviously give it away to homeless

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Speaker 2: and other places, but but I mean remove moving the

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Speaker 2: thing that came to my mind is how many of

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Speaker 2: my friends would go to like Dan multiple George Webbs,

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Speaker 2: Like they went to all five George Webbs, got five burgers,

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Speaker 2: and then you know your low budget if you just

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Speaker 2: going no, no, just have the burger. You know, a fries,

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Speaker 2: you know a drink? Nope, just the burger, Just the burger.

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Speaker 3: The gosh. I think it was in nineteen eighty seven, well,

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Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty seven of the brewers that opened the

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Speaker 3: season with thirteen straight wins. It's one of the most

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Speaker 3: storied pieces of Milwaukee brewer history. But I saw a

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Speaker 3: clip from a newscast from that year where they thought

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Speaker 3: they were going to have to give away one hundred

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Speaker 2: And it's been a crazy, like a couple of days

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Speaker 2: Saturday night, massive flooding that went into sun and a

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Speaker 2: this unbelievable season that they're having where they've won twenty

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Speaker 2: eight of their last thirty two baseball games, twenty eight

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Speaker 2: of last thirty two baseball and the juxtaposition of a

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Speaker 2: small market franchise versus, for example, the Dodgers. Sorry to

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Speaker 2: they spent a bajillion dollars on their baseball team. It's

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Speaker 3: That's that's baseball, right, Yes it is, But there is

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Speaker 3: something in the water. There's something that's going on in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: Yes it's great, Yes, it truly is. And it is.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those stories for most recent history. I

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Speaker 3: It feels that way from afar In just talking to

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Speaker 3: my friends back in Milwaukee. But Doug, remember Bob Buker

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Speaker 3: of they're having some help from above. Everybody that has left,

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Speaker 3: whether it be Craig Council, Corbyn Burns suffers the injury.

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Speaker 3: It's a couple of years ago, but still he was

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Speaker 3: a brewer that you thought could be a brewer for

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Speaker 3: a long time. Devin Williams goes to New York. All

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Speaker 3: right now, maybe not Council as much, but still Brewers

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Speaker 3: the Cubs in the central where all of these new

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Speaker 3: where did that come from? Yeah, there's there's something going on,

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Speaker 3: and I think that's that's gonna be a story You're

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Speaker 3: probably gonna start to hear a lot of over the

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Speaker 3: over September and hopefully Brewers fan for Brewers fans into

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Speaker 3: October and maybe even longer. But it's been a crazy,

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Speaker 3: crazy season with all these things.

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Speaker 2: app Yeah, I'm gonna go to the doubleheader Monday at

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Speaker 2: Wrigley because they play I think they play five against

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Speaker 2: the Cubs. Yeah, right, they played five against the Cubs.

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Speaker 2: So as much as it feels like it's either gonna

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Speaker 2: it could be close in a in a week.

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Speaker 3: Well, you tell me you've been down there. You were

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Speaker 3: down there recently. Yeah, in American Family Field time I

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Speaker 2: Sure, but there's there's a vibe. I mean they've yes,

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Speaker 2: It's not it's you know, ten minutes outside of downtown

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, Matt Arnold's built a team that's really athletic and

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Speaker 2: they make plays. And part of this recent streak has

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Speaker 2: been done without Misowski. Yes, hey, the young pitcher that

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Speaker 2: of Paul Skeens has not been pitching in the rotation.

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Speaker 2: And you you mentioned Matt Arnold, I left out another name.

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Speaker 2: And talking about the guys who have gone elsewhere. David Stearns,

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Speaker 2: So there's another.

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Speaker 3: Name to add to the list of everybody. That is

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Speaker 3: the people that have left Milwaukee that are finding tougher

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Speaker 3: times than what the Brewers have. Right now, their run

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Speaker 3: differential is plus one point fifty nine. It's it's a

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Speaker 3: I want to do. Let's let's talk to Kelsey podcast. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So the first thing is it's like a competition with

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Speaker 2: Rogan and Trump, right for how many what live views

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Speaker 2: and then overall views?

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Speaker 1: Jay Stu?

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Speaker 3: Is that is that right?

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Speaker 2: We had this discussion I think two days ago. Is

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Speaker 2: uh Rogan having Trump on? I believe is the most

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Speaker 2: downloaded podcast in American podcast our audio history, right, So, like,

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Speaker 2: do we care about that level of competition? Dan, you

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Speaker 2: listened to it in its entirety? I watched most of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I put it on the TV last night.

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Speaker 3: What'd you think? It was a lot longer than I thought.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be like fifty minutes,

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Speaker 3: We got that audio, Doug, here's Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 8: No, you don't understand. I thought it was like Jared

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Speaker 2: Can't beat it, cannot beat it. Mark Domini is gonna

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Speaker 2: I just think this is such a fascinating social experiment

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's I'll tell you what. It's been a

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Speaker 2: It's everything that's around Shador. Let's welcome in, Mark Dominic.

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Speaker 6: DB's are going down for the Ravens for whatever horrible event.

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Speaker 6: For the Cleveland Browns, it's now their quarterback position can't

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Speaker 6: stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, we have you mentioned Deshaun Watson, who's

440
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Speaker 2: like training come back from an Achilles' tear that heat

441
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Speaker 2: tore and then re injured as he was rehabbing. Everyone

442
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Speaker 2: who's a Cleveland Brown quarterback seems to be injured. Okay,

443
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Speaker 2: let's let's let's scatter around the league a little bit.

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Speaker 2: There's growing concern at least when you read when you

445
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Speaker 2: watch about Caleb Williams. What have you heard in regards

446
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Speaker 2: to how they feel like he's doing with a new

447
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Speaker 2: system in Chicago.

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Speaker 6: Well they're gonna There's not much they can say but

449
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Speaker 6: that they're hopeful, like they think that things are going

450
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Speaker 6: to go well. Obviously it sounds like the starters are

451
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Speaker 6: playing again this week and the Caleb's going to get

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Speaker 6: out there and show what he can do. Uh you know,

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Speaker 6: well we'll know Doug and oats hard you know watching

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Speaker 6: a practice. Uh you know, you know, saying things. It

455
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Speaker 6: hasn't been the best of press conferences. You haven't heard

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Speaker 6: the Jaden Daniel's like Wow, look at how hard he's

457
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Speaker 6: worked and he's put all this effort in. It's just

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Speaker 6: kind of like, Okay, you know, we've got to figure

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Speaker 6: out what we can do with this guy. You know,

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Speaker 6: this is a make or break yere. He's been out

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Speaker 6: there on the field last year, He's now on the

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Speaker 6: field this year. You know, I've always said I've always

463
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Speaker 6: worried if he's going to put enough time into it.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he's put good time into it. I really

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Speaker 6: as a former GM and anything, I just I want

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Speaker 6: to see him the regular season. I want to see

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Speaker 6: how he reacts, how much is he growing Because you

468
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Speaker 6: as we all know, like year one to year two

469
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Speaker 6: is the leap for players. It just is because the

470
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Speaker 6: fact is they're not worried about vertical jump, they're not

471
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Speaker 6: worried about forty times. They're not on these visits sorts

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Speaker 6: of these different you know, you know, pro teams trying

473
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Speaker 6: to figure out who likes him. They're focused on the

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Speaker 6: playbook and how to learn it and how to grow.

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Speaker 6: And so if Caleb Williams comes it out and starts slow,

476
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Speaker 6: it's a huge concern that they've got this quarterback picked wrong.

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Speaker 6: But if he comes out and he plays consistent, because

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Speaker 6: again he played good comparatively to Trevor Lawrence, this is

479
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Speaker 6: for sure Caleb Williams played well. It's just that we've

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Speaker 6: got him on a pedestal and there's so much potential

481
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Speaker 6: there in the tough division. We'll see if you can

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Speaker 6: take the next step. I'm concerned because I never felt

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Speaker 6: like he could in the first place.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you, But the one thing that

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Speaker 3: rubs me the wrong way mark about this is Ben

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Speaker 3: Johnson's got his new de oak his first year, you know,

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Speaker 3: five year contract. Ryan Poles now gets an extension to

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Speaker 3: line up with that. Why so quick to move off

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Speaker 3: of Caleb considering how much of a disaster last year was, Like,

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Speaker 3: how can we really take last year and count it

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Speaker 3: against him? Considering Shane Waldron was dismissed mid season, eber

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Speaker 3: Flus is gone, you know, in his first year, Like

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Speaker 3: how much can we really hold last year against Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 6: A little bit? And that's what I said, and I

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Speaker 6: agree with Dan. I think that when you watched last

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Speaker 6: year's overall production, I think because Jane Daniels played so well,

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Speaker 6: we kind of like Caleb really struggled. Caleb actually played

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Speaker 6: pretty good as a rookie, you know, as with everything

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Speaker 6: that you're talking about and how he performed. Just like

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Speaker 6: I said, the trick is does he take a step

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Speaker 6: in a Ben Johnson offense. It's just that it hasn't

502
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Speaker 6: felt warm and fuzzy, right. It hasn't felt like everyone's

503
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Speaker 6: kind of wrapped their arms around Caleb, like this has

504
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Speaker 6: been amazing and we're really excited. It's been more of

505
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Speaker 6: a little bit hands off, like we're work in progress

506
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Speaker 6: were you know, we're trying to get more consistent, you know,

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Speaker 6: those kind of things. So you just read the peat

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Speaker 6: leaves and say, okay, let's see I mean, Caleb Williams

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Speaker 6: is starting quarterback for this year and probably next year

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Speaker 6: no matter what, because you take a guy Nmber one

511
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Speaker 6: overall and you're going to give him every shot. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I remember as a GM, I drafted a corner in

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Speaker 6: the third round and he got four years to try

514
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Speaker 6: to become a starting cornerback. If you'd have been drafted

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Speaker 6: in the six round, I probably would have cut him

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Speaker 6: after the first time. Try to put him on the

517
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Speaker 6: practice squad so where your cake and gives you that

518
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Speaker 6: opportunity to stay longer. And even if it's frustrating for

519
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Speaker 6: fans to sit there go iy's a bum. Well, you

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Speaker 6: know what, Ryan Foles can get fired too. It's like

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Speaker 6: players get cut after one year of a you know,

522
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Speaker 6: an extension a GM doesn't mean that they're going to

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Speaker 6: stay just because they got an extension. Owners can afford to,

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Speaker 6: you know, eat these contracts like never before. You know,

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Speaker 6: ten years ago, it was hard to you know, if

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Speaker 6: he did an extension for a player to move away

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Speaker 6: from that player. Now you can use them manipulate it

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Speaker 6: through this hour cap and where the numbers are. J. J.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy's the what's the reaction up there?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's it feels like it's been good.

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Speaker 6: You know, I didn't if everything feels like it's like, okay,

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Speaker 6: you know, he's going to be able to do it

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Speaker 6: a little bit. I've watched and the practice throws. You know,

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Speaker 6: I've been very encouraged by where he's putting the ball

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Speaker 6: in the way he's you know, decisions he's making. I

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Speaker 6: think it's good. You know, do I think it's like wow,

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Speaker 6: you know, we have another je Daniels. I don't know

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Speaker 6: about that, but I certainly feel like, just like Chicago

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Speaker 6: should have hope, I think they have hope in Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: It hasn't been you know, all this doom and gloomer,

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Speaker 6: like what's wrong with JJ McCarthy. It's more like we

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Speaker 6: just want to see it. But from what it feels like,

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Speaker 6: I think they're a good spot to kind of.

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Speaker 3: Take a bird's eye of. You Mark Dominic joining us

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Speaker 3: here on the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: If you look at that whole division, So you got

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Speaker 3: Detroit now with two new coordinators. We just talked Vikings

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Speaker 3: and Bears. Now, Jordan Love's got a thumb deal with

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Speaker 3: the Packers. As you see it right now, where do

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Speaker 3: you stand with the four teams in placing as we're

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks away from the start of the

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Speaker 3: regular Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It's an amazing division. You know. It feels like Minnesota

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Speaker 6: and Chicago are you know, are battling for who's going

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Speaker 6: to end up third or fourth, And it feels to

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Speaker 6: me like Green Bay and Detroit as good as Minnesota

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Speaker 6: was last year. I just feel like Detroit depending on,

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Speaker 6: you know, the health of that defensive line and if

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Speaker 6: it can come back is the key to the difference, right,

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Speaker 6: And so I like the Packers though. I like Jeff

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Speaker 6: Hafley what he's done on defense. You talk about a

562
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Speaker 6: coordinator has been able to stay there and now the

563
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Speaker 6: guys understand what he's asking to do. You've got consistency.

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Speaker 6: It's a quarterback spot. You've got all these young guys

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Speaker 6: growing up together. I like what the Packers are. I

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Speaker 6: think they're a nod above Detroit as good as Detroit is,

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Speaker 6: and either one of those two teams can represent the

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Speaker 6: NFC in the Super Bowl in my opinion. But I'm

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Speaker 6: going to lean towards the Packers because I just love

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Speaker 6: the ways they've built this roster and how it's all

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Speaker 6: growing up together at the same time, and it feels

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Speaker 6: like a team that's going to be relevant for the

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Speaker 6: next four or five years for sure. And I believe

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Speaker 6: in Jordan Love and I think that he's got a

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Speaker 6: chance to, you know, take his game to another level.

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Speaker 6: And so with Luke Musgrave back, you know, now with

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Speaker 6: you know, Matthew Golden, I just think that the points

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Speaker 6: are going to be very hard to overcome for the

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Speaker 6: Packers because they're going to score enough. I mean, opponents

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Speaker 6: are gonna have hard time putting up to the mount

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Speaker 6: of points that I think the Packers can.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Matt Stafford, what's your read on on the Rams quarterback?

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Speaker 6: I think they're just being very cautious, right. They got

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Speaker 6: to get him to week one, so they're just going

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Speaker 6: to like, you know, say what we need to hear,

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Speaker 6: you know everything. But Matt Stafford to me, will walk

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Speaker 6: up the ton of week one and play quarterbacks for

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Speaker 6: the Rams. He won't play in the preseason. This is

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Speaker 6: Stenson Bend. It's up to the show that he's worthy

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Speaker 6: of the fourth round pick and can be the number two.

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Speaker 6: But Stafford, I think will be fine. I don't think

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Speaker 6: this is something that's going to continue to linger out.

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Speaker 6: I think it's just one of those things that they're

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Speaker 6: being overly cautious with them because they understand the whole

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Speaker 6: season that is relying on him.

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Speaker 3: What is their view of this year? Because this has

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Speaker 3: been my thing with the Rams. If Doug's heard me

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Speaker 3: say it, Jason's heard me say it. I think they

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Speaker 3: were close last year on the scoreboard in beating Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how close they were, but now in

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Speaker 3: the NFL, it seems like if you have a shot,

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Speaker 3: do it. It's why I thought they brought Stafford back.

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Speaker 3: How close are they And for a team that less

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Speaker 3: need has been a mover and shaker, they got two

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Speaker 3: number ones in twenty twenty six. Would there ever be

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Speaker 3: a point where they would be like, all right, Stafford's healthy.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we look in another way at the Rams

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Speaker 3: kind of their big picture.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think they've got to They're trying

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Speaker 6: to stay in that window with the most difficult position

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Speaker 6: at all. Right, we see teams a lot of times

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Speaker 6: like Josh Allen's going to it now.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: The Bills have since spent a fortune of money trying

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Speaker 6: to keep the crew together, and then what's going to

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Speaker 6: happen is those guys are going to come out and

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Speaker 6: they're going to try to do it again. Patri Mahomes

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Speaker 6: is on the second wave of that right now, right

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Speaker 6: in terms of like he's coming to the league. They

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Speaker 6: had a shot to go to get Super Bowls and

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Speaker 6: then they had to like readjust the roster, and now

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Speaker 6: they're doing that right now in Kansas City and they're

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Speaker 6: still relevant. The Rams are the kind of that they've

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Speaker 6: readjusted the roster, except the quarterback is the aged one

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Speaker 6: instead of a younger guy like Mahomes or Josh Allen

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Speaker 6: or Lamar Jackson. And so I think the reason why

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Speaker 6: they have two number ones is that they know that

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Speaker 6: next year's draft they've got to do something and they

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Speaker 6: know they have to do it at that position, and

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Speaker 6: so they got the extra ammunition to be able.

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Speaker 4: To do that.

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Speaker 6: I think they've planned on that this is Stafford's last

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Speaker 6: season and that's why I think they're being safe with him.

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Speaker 6: But I I think the building blocks are there. This

635
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Speaker 6: team does have a very young, explosive defense. It's very exciting,

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Speaker 6: you know, getting the running back taking care of it,

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Speaker 6: a club friendly deal huge for them. So I think

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Speaker 6: that you'll see them change that position out through the draft.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they'll go for the veteran, like take

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Speaker 6: the picks and go get a veteran or or somebody

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Speaker 6: that's been somewhere else. I think they'll pick their own

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Speaker 6: guy in the twenty twenty sixth draft to be the

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Speaker 6: next starter for the Rams.

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Speaker 2: James Cook signs a four year extension, and this is

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Speaker 2: a it's a weird one, right because he's only in

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Speaker 2: He's only in year four of a five year rookie contract.

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Speaker 2: And I thought the is very telling that the agent's

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Speaker 2: name were in the tweet and chapter's tweet, right, So

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Speaker 2: hey with us, we went out there, we did this.

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Speaker 2: It's it says thirty million dollars guaranteed when you have

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Speaker 2: that fifth year option out there, right, So he was

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Speaker 2: going to get paid more money next year. Anyway, What

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Speaker 2: do you think the details actually look like in terms

654
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Speaker 2: of this extension for a guy who has back to

655
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Speaker 2: back thousand yard seasons.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, James actually honors the rookie deal.

657
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Speaker 6: It's a four year deal, that's what it is. The

658
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Speaker 6: next year would be the franchise tag for him. You know,

659
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Speaker 6: the first round is obviously get the fifth year option

660
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Speaker 6: for them. So James was you know, he's going into

661
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Speaker 6: his last season and what's in front of him is

662
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Speaker 6: that franchise tag, which is a significant number. To me,

663
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Speaker 6: the holding was pointless if they're going to sign four

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Speaker 6: years for eight million. I think that was on the

665
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Speaker 6: table the whole time. I don't think there's any way

666
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Speaker 6: that wasn't on the table. I think the Bills just

667
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Speaker 6: put their heels in and say, hey, look, take it

668
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Speaker 6: or leave it. And I think what really happened behind

669
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Speaker 6: the scenes was James Cook was trying to get sixteen

670
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Speaker 6: to eighteen a year and the Bills were laughing, going

671
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Speaker 6: we're not giving you that. We're just it's not going

672
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Speaker 6: to happen. I mean, thinking that this way Zach Killer,

673
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Speaker 6: who's the agent for you know, James Cook was Dalvin Cook.

674
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Speaker 6: So Dalvin Cook's agent. Right when Dalvin Cook did his

675
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 6: deal with the Minnesota Vikings five years ago, Dalvin Cook

676
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Speaker 6: got more money than James Cook got today when the

677
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Speaker 6: salar Caps jumped sixty seventy million. So this is not

678
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Speaker 6: a great deal. This is nothing to beat your chest on.

679
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 6: You know, he's the agents trying to say, hey, well,

680
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Speaker 6: James always envisioned himself as a Buffalo Bill. That's why

681
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Speaker 6: we had to do it. Nea Baloney too. He took

682
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Speaker 6: the deal that they put in front of you. You

683
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Speaker 6: were scared to play it out, which I understand. I'm

684
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Speaker 6: not going to be mad at James Cook. It's forty

685
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Speaker 6: eight million potential dollars, but the reality is he left

686
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Speaker 6: three to four million dollars on the field if he

687
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Speaker 6: goes to free agency next year, because I think somebody

688
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 6: pays him fifteen sixteen million. But good, good for Buffalo

689
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Speaker 6: Bill's good for James Cook. But it's not one where

690
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Speaker 6: the agent should be beating his chest. And I did

691
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Speaker 6: a good job because it's just it's just kind of

692
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Speaker 6: a deal at the ramback spot where it's good money.

693
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Speaker 6: Again to the average American it's like huge money. But

694
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Speaker 6: to the running back market. By these last two extensions,

695
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Speaker 6: you know Karen Williams obviously in the Rams and now

696
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Speaker 6: James Cook, they continue to push that market's going down.

697
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Speaker 6: It's only eleven twelve million a year. That's kind of

698
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Speaker 6: what the market is.

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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, No, that was more My point, Mark

700
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Speaker 2: is that I think because of the success of Saquon

701
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Speaker 2: Barkley and Josh Jacob and guys that had come to contract, Impasses,

702
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: Dereck Henry. There's this thought, Oh, it's going to change

703
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Speaker 2: the running back market, and then Saquon gets you know,

704
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Speaker 2: they tear up his deal and re up it. Like, No,

705
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Speaker 2: it's pretty much the same. The evaluation is the same,

706
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Speaker 2: and if anything, it's actually lower because as you point out,

707
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Speaker 2: the salary cap has jumped substantially.

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Speaker 6: You just have to do you have as a running back.

709
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Speaker 6: I know it's hard as an agent. It's easy for

710
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Speaker 6: us to sit here and talk about it. You have

711
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Speaker 6: to get to free agency, have thirty one other club's

712
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Speaker 6: bit on you, or you're going to take eleven to

713
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 6: twelve million dollars deal because that's what clubs are going

714
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Speaker 6: to offer. So you've got to just decide what do

715
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Speaker 6: you want to do. Do you want to get paid

716
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Speaker 6: or do you want to see what your value is?

717
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Speaker 6: Two different things. Running Backs, if they really want to

718
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Speaker 6: get paid, they've got to get to free agency at

719
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Speaker 6: a young age like they are Like James Cooker Williams

720
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Speaker 6: would be would have been No again, No, they got

721
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Speaker 6: to secure their bag. They want to get their money.

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Speaker 6: I can get it no big deal. But we're not

723
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Speaker 6: going to see a market change until somebody pushes they

724
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Speaker 6: envelop and says I'm going to free agency.

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Speaker 2: That's Mark Domini, former gentlemennager of Tampay Buccaneers. Can hear

726
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: him weekly in the Doug Gottlieb Show. Mark you the

727
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Speaker 2: best man. Appreciate you getting up for us.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 2: He's Dan Byer in for Dan and the dan Ets

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Speaker 2: coming next to The Dan Patrick Show. Its just something

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Speaker 2: we do on our show where everybody's a throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Throw Back Thursday. No, no, we call it. Don't call it

734
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Speaker 2: a throwback Thursday. What's that mean? We'll help you understand.

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Speaker 8: Next.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

739
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Speaker 1: listen live.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio.

741
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Speaker 2: Did you guys know what yesterday was on Comedy Central?

742
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: Anybody was south Park Day? It was south Park Day?

743
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: Apparently south Park and it was pre planned, they say,

744
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: took the week off even though should have been the second

745
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: week of their thirteenth season, right, and that's after record

746
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Speaker 2: ratings because of you know, the week one was took

747
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: shots at the president at a bunch of political political

748
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Speaker 2: stories or whatever, and it's hysterical, and so of course

749
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Speaker 2: you like, don't you want to follow up on this momentum?

750
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Speaker 2: And apparently they just instead ran south Park Day all

751
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Speaker 2: the south Parker. That's where we are in two thousand,

752
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Speaker 2: in twenty ten or twenty in twenty twenty five. That's

753
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Speaker 2: where we are as a country, as a people, right,

754
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Speaker 2: where political commentary or political comedy is on south Park. Right,

755
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: that's where we do realize, like we need to take

756
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: a snap shot. How do we get to this place?

757
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: Simpson's projects The future south Park is a snapshot of

758
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: the now in terms of political commentary. That's kind of

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Speaker 2: a fascinating thing, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: All?

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Speaker 2: Right, so we do that's of now. Something we do

762
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Speaker 2: on the Doug Gottliebs Show on a weekly basis on

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Speaker 2: Thursdays is we look back.

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Speaker 1: Don't call it a throwback.

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Speaker 2: This is Jan Byer's mind, Jason Stewart's creation. Jase, do

766
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Speaker 2: take it away? I want no, No, You're supposed to

767
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Speaker 2: do the Jay Stu thing.

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Speaker 3: Uh, go ahead, throw it to me, Jason Stewart, Thank you, dog.

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Speaker 3: I'ta take it from here.

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Speaker 7: I want everybody listening to this right now to go

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Speaker 7: back to twenty ten. All the members of this show

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Speaker 7: working on the show right now, and I want all

773
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Speaker 7: the listeners to go back to twenty ten. We're gonna

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Speaker 7: don't call it a throwback.

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Speaker 3: Thursday Byer, where were you twenty ten? Twenty ten? You're

776
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Speaker 3: hard knocks?

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Speaker 1: Eric?

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Speaker 7: The famous Jets season. I think that was peak hard knocks.

779
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 7: I think we haven't seen anything since. It's certainly awful

780
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 7: this Seasonlet's go get a gd snack?

781
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Speaker 3: Right, wasn't that?

782
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 4: Was that?

783
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 7: That's exactly what it is. Let's get a bleeping snack

784
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 7: was the main takeaway. And then Antonio Cramarti's struggling to name.

785
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: All of his kids' names.

786
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Speaker 7: That's eight kids was maybe the most humorous takeaway the

787
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 7: whole thing. But hard knocks peak hard knocks twenty ten,

788
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Speaker 7: Dan Byer, what do you remember most about that sports

789
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Speaker 7: here twenty ten? Twenty ten?

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Speaker 3: Doug. I'm sorry to steal your territory, but whenever I

791
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Speaker 3: think of twenty ten, I think of the twenty ten

792
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 3: final four and what could have been with Duke and

793
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: Butler and Gordon Hayward's half court shot that did not fall.

794
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: But when I think of twenty ten, I think of

795
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Speaker 3: how Cinderella almost shocked the world in college basketball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's amazing the narrative of that final four, Right,

797
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: it's the Cinderella who is actually a preseason like top

798
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 2: ten team, and they're right down the street from Amtra,

799
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: you know, twenty minutes away from their campus. But and

800
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 2: the and we talk about that shot not going in

801
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: more than we talk about you know what what Duke did.

802
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: By the way, Dous intentionally missed the second free throw

803
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: that would have made a three point game. It was

804
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: a mistake by Mike Krzyzewsky, Like it was a huge mistake,

805
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: which he's sort of owned afterwards. Where would I do

806
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: it again? Okay, because remember Brian Zubek was at the

807
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: free throw line and he makes the first, they're up

808
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: two points. He intentionally misses the second, and the narrative was, well,

809
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: miss a second because you know, Brad Stevens got all

810
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 2: these plays like yeah, but all of a sudden, now

811
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Speaker 2: you put losing on the table. That shot goes in

812
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: you lose. As opposed, if you make the free throw

813
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: and the shot goes in, it goes to overtime.

814
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Speaker 3: One of the odds. Gordon Yedward's going to make a

815
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Speaker 3: half court shot, right, that's one of the odds.

816
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh so there's there's a lot to it. But yes,

817
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: that was That was probably peak Cinderella. It was was Butler.

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00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 2: It's crazy because I think of that before.

819
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Speaker 3: I think of Celtics Lakers seven game series and kind

820
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: of what a clunker Game seven was. But when we

821
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: talk about basketball in that world, I think more of

822
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: the Final Four than the NBA Finals.

823
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Speaker 7: Well, of course, the NBA Finals, as the Lakers just

824
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 7: beat the Celtics, was overshadowed by something called the Decision.

825
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 7: July eighth, twenty ten, Lebron James sits down with what's

826
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Speaker 7: his face and analysis that he's going to take his

827
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 7: talents to Miami piss out all of Cleveland and most

828
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Speaker 7: of the sports world.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so do you know where we have talked about this,

830
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: but the audience doesn't know that. I was guest hosting

831
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Speaker 2: for Jim Rome on Rome is Burning when the announcement

832
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: came down. And here's what's interesting about it. Two days before,

833
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: I was on ESPN's campus and I was walking with

834
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Speaker 2: Scott Van Pelt and Chris Carter was walking the other way.

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Speaker 2: We're like on a sidewalk, right, We're walking from the cafeteria,

836
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Speaker 2: I think it was called Building four, and we're like,

837
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Speaker 2: what up.

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Speaker 3: CC.

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Speaker 2: He's like, Hey, the King's going to Miami. And at

840
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Speaker 2: the time, no one had mentioned Miami had not been discussed, right,

841
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Speaker 2: There was lots of discussion about what he was going

842
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Speaker 2: to do. Miami was not one of the teams listed

843
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Speaker 2: as a possible destination. And and and by the way,

844
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Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade whatever he was, was it up and smoked

845
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Speaker 2: the podcast he was on where he was talking about

846
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Speaker 2: he was playing on going Chicago anyway, he was getting

847
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Speaker 2: out of Miami too. But Chris Carter was was tied

848
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Speaker 2: in the the former former colleague here at Fox.

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Speaker 3: So that was an amazing one.

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Speaker 7: So this is when Dan Bayer does something very impressive

851
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 7: on our show each week. I'm telling you right now,

852
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 7: believe me, for the listeners. There there's no script in

853
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 7: front of him, there's no Google, there's no phone. He's

854
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 7: about to tell you what happened in golf in twenty.

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Speaker 3: Two I was at three of the four majors that year,

856
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 3: seeing Phil Mickelson win his third Green jacket. Then Graham

857
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: McDowell went to Pebble Beach and won the US Open,

858
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: missed out on Luis USTA's in winning the Open Championship

859
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: at Saint Andrews. But then it was Martin Kaimer over

860
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Speaker 3: Bubba Watson at Whistling Straits to win the PGA Championship.

861
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: Was also a Ryder Cup year where Team Europe on

862
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 3: a Monday finish beat Team USA at Celtic Manor in Wales.

863
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 3: Avatar was the big movie, Avatar.

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Speaker 5: The Metrodome collapsed.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, that was remember remember Brett Brett Farv. It

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Speaker 2: was like all in epic kind of fashion, right, bet

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Speaker 2: Brett Farv. They brought him out of retirement.

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Speaker 3: He got killed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he looked like he had worn the same

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Speaker 2: hat he was mowing the lawn with when Chile went

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Speaker 2: down there and brought him back. Yeah, it was all

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Speaker 2: twenty ten. By the way, that was the beginning of

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Speaker 2: baseball kind of being good Farve impression too with Chile Chills, good.

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Speaker 3: Chile, Chile.

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Speaker 2: Those are the days, Those are the days, all right?

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, Dan Bayer, Doug gott Laban for Dan

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Speaker 2: and the Dan Nuts. Is Shador Sanders a victim We'll

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Speaker 2: discuss next The Damn Pecher Show