1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Hey, guys are back on. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Normally the show is normally takes, but when the news gets. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Weird, I am Erican him and I am Pyle Michaels. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: We're going to have a really sad show today. The 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: news is not good top to bottom. So let's start 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: with a little lightness. How was your weekend? 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: It was pretty good. Had to take the not had to. 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite yearly events. We go 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: to a little Santa brunch where they get to meet Santa, 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: and we have a nice, nice meal with our friends, 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: and you get the kiddos dressed up, and as we 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: were leaving, as is customary with children, I'm leaning over 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: my four year old daughter and she's putting on her shoes. 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: At part of the long struggle of getting a decent 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: outfit on, She's putting her shoes on and I'm like, oh, 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: this is the wrong feet, But who cares? Like, if 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: you want to change them, change them. If you don't, 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: no big deal, And she goes, that's okay, mom, and 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: then she triumphantly jumps into the air into my Oh no, 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: I do not have a broken nose. I do not 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: have a mark. Like we're in a good We're in 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: a pretty good place, but in the moment, it hurts 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: so bad. And I was like, they broke my face. 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: To my oldest daughter, I was like, can you take 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: over here stairs and deal with us, like try not 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: to cry, try not to flip out, And all was well, 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: Like I said, I am unmarked, just bruised, and ego, yes. 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah you look great. You don't you don't look 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: like you you take care a beating. But h yeah, 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: those kids they could like exuberantly love you until a 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: lot of pains. 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: Yes, it happened, and Steve said, don't let your self 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: are protected like that, right, it's your fault, which, like 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: you know, I've had a lot of kids. I should know. 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: I should know. 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are deep in holiday party season down here 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: in Florida. Buck Sexton had a really fun one on Thursday. 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Dave Ruben had one on Saturday. The gang was all there. 39 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: You were missed. You are always welcome in South Florida. 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: You know this. You don't have to suffer up there 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: in the cold. We could come down to our chili. 42 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: But still, you know, pretty good seventy degrees. 43 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: No party season down there does look great because I 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: do have an issue with dressing up and going out 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: in the cold. Yeah, and I do it basically once 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: a year. I do black tie in the cold and 47 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: that is the Travis Mannon Foundation Gala, which I did 48 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: on Thursday and it was beautiful. 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. But man, sweater dresses. I like sweater dresses personally for. 50 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: That b there, you could do that. 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: They really they work very well. All right, let's talk 52 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: about all the terrible stuff going on in the world 53 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: and how much it sucks. We're actually going to start 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: with there were two US Army soldiers and an American 55 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: interpreter killed in Syria on Saturday, and we're starting with 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: that because it's such an underreported story. It's just not 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: out there at all. And we understand that there's a 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: lot of news that we're going to talk about, Bondi 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: in the next segment. But I do think I and 60 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, I could be accused sometimes of being not 61 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: America first because I dare be Jewish, But I do 62 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: think American news should lead our news. I think American deaths, 63 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: especially military deaths, should be at the top of our 64 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: news feed. And so we're going to talk about it 65 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: on here. The name of the two Iowa Army National 66 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: Guard soldiers are Sergeant William Nathaniel Nate Howard, he was 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: twenty nine of Marshalltown and Sergeant Edgar Bryan Torres Tavar, 68 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: twenty five of Grimes. It's just a giant tragedy, and 69 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: there were three other soldiers wounded. They are apparently doing well, 70 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: but we lost these two young men and it's just 71 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: a giant tragedy and we need to commemorate them. 72 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: This is part of a support system or support mission 73 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: that US troops are doing. About nine hundred of them 74 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: are stationed in eastern Syria as part of a coalition 75 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: fighting the Islamic State Group and to hinder Iranian influence. 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: They think the shooter was sort of an inside job 77 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: who had infiltrated but was an ISIS guy, and I 78 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: believe he was taken out by in retaliation. Apparently. I 79 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: just read that Syria has arrested five in this plot, 80 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: and Trump of course is vowing retaliation. This seems like 81 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: what might be an interesting early test of the relationship 82 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: between this Syrian president who was not an ally but 83 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: then sort of became an ally. 84 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: He was just at the White House, Yeah, he was 85 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: just at. 86 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: The White House and Trump but it's terrible news to 87 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: hear right before the holidays, and I'm glad you brought 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: it to all of our attention because it did get 89 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: lost in the news this weekend. These are the first 90 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: combat deaths since Trump took office. I guess, I guess 91 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: National Guard the young woman in DC, but she that 92 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: was not combat death per se. 93 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: That was right, Trump posted on truth Social There will 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: be very serious retaliation. He said, this was an isa's 95 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: attack against the US and Syrian a very dangerous part 96 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: of Syria that is not fully controlled by them. The 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: president of Syria, mad al Shara, is extremely angry and 98 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: disturbed by this attack. There will be very serious retaliation, 99 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: and as has become his closing comment, he wrote, thank 100 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: you for your attention to this matter. I don't know 101 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: where this leads, because look, nobody wants a hot war 102 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and nobody wants obviously more American 103 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: troops in the ground. I feel like everybody's kind of 104 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: united in that thought. But you also can't let stuff 105 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: like this go just go right, And that's really what 106 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: often is expected from Israel. Israel is expected to just 107 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, take it on the chin and move on 108 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the time. And I think this kind 109 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: of thing brings home to Americans that you can't do that, 110 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: You just can't. You have to fight back. 111 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the Hudis is a good example 112 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: of Americans having to eventually just take out a bunch 113 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: of hoo de capabilities because they were after targets that 114 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: mattered to us, and specifically American targets. And eventually you 115 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 2: have to do something about that. And if you lose deterrence, yeah, 116 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: as we did during the Biden years, the price of 117 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: regaining it can get really, really high. Yeah, And so 118 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: taking care of this stuff quickly, I think is the 119 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: preferred method, even though for some people. And I think 120 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: Trump's very comfortable with it. Trump's very comfortable with like, 121 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: you did something wrong, We're taking care of that. But 122 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean troops on the ground or nation building. 123 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: That's right, that's his sweet spot. 124 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: I was going to say the same thing, it's a 125 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: sweet spot if Trump has one, that's it. He looked. 126 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: He doesn't always handle every situation the way I would 127 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: like him to handle it, and he doesn't always say 128 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: the right words, but in times like this, I think 129 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: he actually shines. So I will also add that just 130 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: because America is not in a hot war, it doesn't 131 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: mean our troops are not in danger. And this is 132 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: a good reminder of that. My kids to this day, 133 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: they're fifteen, twelve, and ten, they think every time they 134 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: see somebody in a military hat or in uniform obviously, 135 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: but also police officers, firemen, they say thank you for 136 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: your service to them. And I think this is just 137 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: a reminder that we might not think of it as 138 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: they're in harms way all the time, but they are. 139 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: They're literally frequently on the front lines of defending us, 140 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: even if we don't know anything about. 141 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: It, It's true. And even in cases where they are 142 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: not on the front lines per se, there are still deployments. 143 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: There are still families who pay the cost back home, 144 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: and having just spent Thursday, Friday, parts of Saturday with 145 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: the families who are involved with the Travis Mannon Foundation, 146 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: you meet these stunning folks who sometimes didn't serve themselves, 147 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: but you know, paid the full price with their spouses 148 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 2: or their brothers and are still out there trying to 149 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: serve the American people and to if you never have 150 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: been or if you've never watched an army, navy game 151 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: worth trying to do that at some point during your life, 152 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: just because the pageantry, the commitment of every single person 153 00:07:55,080 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: there on the field to sacrifice everything for your freedom. 154 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: It's really something. And you know, I love my SEC football, 155 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: but that is a different level of experience and something 156 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: that I think everyone should try to take in at 157 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: some point in some way, because it does help appreciate 158 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: these things. 159 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: Tell us who you root for, just tell us, Oh, 160 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm a Navy girl. 161 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but it's all pretty friendly, you know. 162 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: Fun. I saw some people mad about some Georgia football 163 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: with you this weekend. 164 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: To that but separate issue. But on this one, I 165 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: think we can all be friendly rivals as when it 166 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: comes to Army Navy and appreciate everyone. 167 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: We'll take a short break and come right back on 168 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: normally with some more sad and devastating news from the 169 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: last few days. Be right back all right. 170 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: We are back on normally, and again the news is 171 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: heavy this week. In Bondi Beach in Australia, there was 172 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: an attack on a Hanukkah gathering the first night of 173 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 2: Hannah on the beach. At least fifteen people were killed 174 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: in an attack in Sydney, including a ten year old girl, 175 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: a long serving rabbi and a Holocaust survivor. If you 176 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: have been paying attention to the news this weekend, you 177 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: saw that an incredibly brave early forties fruit stand fruit 178 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: vender overtook one of the shooters who was armed while 179 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: he was not and probably prevented a lot more carnage. 180 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: He was shot himself, but it looks like he will survive. 181 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: And just my prayers to everybody and also commendation to 182 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: that guy. It was having seen the video, it was 183 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: an incredibly risky and brave thing to do. 184 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: Really amazing. Yeah, it was such a devastating story to 185 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: wake up two on Sunday. It's just, you know, Bondi Beach. 186 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: I've never been there, but it's obviously a very well known, 187 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: very chill beach. Australians in general, I always found to 188 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: be very mellow people. The Hanuka celebration part. My daughter 189 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: had been on a beach in South Florida having a 190 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: Shabbat celebration the day before. It really hard and I 191 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: hate that the conversation is now turning to how much 192 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: more can Australia ban guns like it? Just it doesn't work. Like, 193 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: here's your evidence that banning guns doesn't work. The guns 194 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: were banned, these men had. 195 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: Been most banned. 196 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and yet here were a father son duo opening fire, reloading, 197 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: having absolutely no problem doing that, and no police stopping them. 198 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: The police didn't do anything for ten minutes of this shooting. Uh. 199 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: You know, I understand, I understand the fear and everything, 200 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: But if the police aren't going to do anything and 201 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: you're an armed you're leaving it to unarmed fruit stand 202 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: man to help you, that's not always going to work out, 203 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: even as well as it worked out here. So it 204 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: just it's really bad and the fact that Islamic terrorism 205 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: continues to rear its ugly head the way it is 206 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: here and in a couple of other situations that we're 207 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: going to talk about right now. It's just it's an 208 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: ongoing thing, and so many people refuse to call it 209 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: what it is. And it's not anti Muslim to say 210 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: that radical Islamic ideology is propelling a lot of this. 211 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: I have Muslim friends who agree that radical Islamic ideology 212 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: is propelling a lot of this. So I don't know, 213 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't know where the West goes from here. Leah 214 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: Libowitz had a great piece in Tablet Today where he 215 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: talks about, you know, the Jews are going to be fine, 216 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: We're going to lick our wounds, take care of each other, 217 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: move on. It's Western civilization that we all have to 218 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: be concerned about. And that's what I'm most afraid for. 219 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: And I think I've said it on here before, but 220 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Israel. I'm worried about America. I'm 221 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: worried about where we're going and the paths that we 222 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: are following. And I just don't want us to end 223 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: up like Europe or like Australia, and it sometimes feels 224 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: like we're heading in that direction. 225 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: Five men were also arrested in Germany, suspected of being 226 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: involved in a plot to drive a vehicle into a 227 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: Christmas market. So it is not just the Jews, and 228 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: I bet you can guess the ideology that drove that plot. 229 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 2: Thank goodness it was broken up. But I think you're right, Carol, 230 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: that unless we are honest about what is happening here 231 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: and take practical measures to make sure that the people 232 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: you're welcoming to your country are not either already radical 233 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: or becoming radicalized. While they're here, You're going to run 234 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: into more and more of this everywhere. And if it's 235 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: politically incorrect or frowned upon to even point that out, 236 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: we have a serious problem. And as we talked about 237 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: in one of our last episodes, if you don't have 238 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: the cultural self confidence to say our way of life matters, 239 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: our Christmas markets matter, our public Monora lightings matter, you 240 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: are not allowed to attack them in the name of 241 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: your radicalized religion. You're not going to be able to 242 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: protect yourself. 243 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to name it before you could do 244 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: anything about it. As we're recording this, Cassia Kiva posted 245 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: that the FBI stopped a terror attack planned for New 246 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: Year by the left wing pro Palestinian group Turtle Island 247 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: Liberation Front. Turtle Island is an indigenous term from North 248 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: America adapted by radical leftists who reject the continent's name 249 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: as colonialist. It's not going to be just Jews. No, 250 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: people need to wake up and see that this continues 251 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: to be an attack on Western civilization in general. One 252 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: of the victims on Bondi Beach is Habad Rabbi Eli Schlanger, 253 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: and I just want to note he has been and 254 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: I had a couple of friends posts about him on Instagram, 255 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: particularly welcoming to my community of ex Soviet Jews who 256 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: moved to Australia around the same time that I moved 257 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: to America. Really an extra sad loss for my people. 258 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: Let's say, he was apparently a real force in welcoming 259 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: the people that moved to Australia and making them feel 260 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Australian part of the Australian Jewish community. And that's so important. 261 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: Oh, it's terrible. Just the range of victims. One guy 262 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: was there is like a free lance photographer. It's just 263 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 2: terrible as always, And like you said, it will immediately 264 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: pivot to banning. 265 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: Gun already doing it. 266 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure how much more illegal you can 267 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: make murder to begin with. 268 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: That's always the question, how much more can you make 269 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: murder illegal? I also want to note Arson Ostrowski, who 270 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: is a Twitter friend of mine for a long time. 271 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: He had recently moved from Israel to Australia, was on 272 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: the beach the bullet grazed his head. He posted pictures 273 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: of himself bleeding profusely, but he looks like he's going 274 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: to be okay. He's was lighting Candles in the hospital 275 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: last night, and we're obviously praying for Arson. 276 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: I want to note also we do not know the 277 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: motive of it yet. The Rhode Island shooting at Brown 278 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: University another place where guns are very very very banned, 279 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: and Rhode Island in general has very strict rules. Two 280 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: students died at Brown and and at least one there 281 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: was in an economics study session. One of the shooting 282 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: victims is Ella Cook, who was the vice president of 283 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: the Republicans club. And again we don't know exactly what 284 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: motivated this, but apparently the professor was Jewish. This woman 285 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: was a leader of a Republicans club on campus. There 286 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: are very few conservatives on Brown's campus. She was a 287 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: visible one. They do not have this shooter yet as 288 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: we are reporting, so we don't know a lot here. 289 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: But I do think those things are notable. And another 290 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: tragedy to see a nineteen year old killed at this 291 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: stage in her life, who clearly was a leader, who 292 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: clearly was gifted. And we will find out more about that. 293 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: But very very low percentage of conservatives on campus. 294 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: Right, it's odd if that is a coincidence. Amy Swearer, 295 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: who is at the Heritage Foundation, and she's a senior 296 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: legal fellow there. She's brilliant, especially on the issue of guns, 297 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: but on basically everything that she writes. But she pointed 298 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: out the shooting occurred in the classroom of Professor Rachel Friedberg, 299 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: who is Jewish, part of the program in Judaic Studies 300 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: and whose research focuses on the intersection of economics and 301 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: Jewish studies. That seems like it might be incredibly relevant. 302 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: It could be random, but doesn't sound like it. 303 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: Many of these facts are worth considering, and then when 304 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: we know more, will know more. Also, as always, it's 305 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: worth being careful about people you name in the wake 306 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: of these things. The person of interest's name was out 307 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: and picture was out and he was later released. 308 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had his names and I didn't release 309 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: it because it wasn't one hundred percent and I had 310 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: it at like high nineties and it's still I was like, Okay, 311 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: let's let's hold off on this. But yeah, it's scary 312 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: actually that they don't have him yet. Y also like, 313 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: how could they not have him? I'm hearing from kind 314 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: of normy friends being like, I don't get it. How 315 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: is there not aren't there security cameras? Everywhere, Like we 316 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: see the cameras everywhere. How could they not have this 317 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: guy yet? 318 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: The press conferences are not with local folks, are not 319 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: inspiring a ton of confidence at this moment. They say 320 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: that they're just warn't a lot of cameras in that building. 321 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: They are asking the public for more information and hopefully 322 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: we will have more progress to update you with in 323 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: the future. But sad news again. 324 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry to bum everybody out for our second segment, 325 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: but had to talk about the big stories from the 326 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: last few days. 327 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 328 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: With more on normally and hopefully not a topic that 329 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: makes us want to just lose it. Be right back 330 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: all right, we are back on normally. I wouldn't say 331 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: that this is a happy topic either, No, but it's close. 332 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: It's pleasure. 333 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: Yes, there's no death involved here, which is already a plus. 334 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: Apparently kids no longer read books at all, and this 335 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: you know, you and I have been talking about this 336 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: for so long that that reading has become something that 337 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: is just not done, and especially full books is unheard of. 338 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: It's awful, what a tragedy. And I don't understand how 339 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: English teachers go along with it, and they don't make 340 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: the kids read entire books. 341 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the New York Times reporting on it. And again, 342 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: we've talked about this a lot, but it is helpful 343 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: to have the New York Times backing up of this 344 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: kind of stuff with reporting It says in America high schools, 345 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: the age of the book may be fading. Many teenagers 346 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: are assigned few full books to read from beginning to end, 347 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: often just one or two per year. According to researchers 348 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: and thousands of responses to an informal reader survey by 349 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: The New York Times, twelfth grade reading scores are historic lows, 350 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 2: et cetera. I mean, even in at elite colleges kids 351 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: are getting they're not having read books. Karen Vates, who 352 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: is a great follow on Twitter. Vates is Vai Tes. 353 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: She follows this stuff and follows curriculum and how they 354 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: shape what we teach kids. And she says, what's disturbing 355 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: to me is what she says is that this is 356 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: something that everyone in K twelve education knows, of course, 357 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: but the info hadn't gotten to the normies until recently, 358 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: because normies assume, of course, you read books in school. 359 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: Doesn't read books, right, But that is not the case, 360 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 2: they do not read books in school. And as much 361 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: as you know, I think it's easy to clown on 362 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: college students who turn out not great work. They're like, oh, 363 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: you can't read any books. It's like, well, if they 364 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: were never asked to do that, right, what do you 365 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: want they have learned to do it? 366 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I would just say, if your a kid is 367 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: not made to read books in school, make them read 368 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: them at home. I just don't understand this whole, Like, well, 369 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: they don't have to read it in school, so that's it. 370 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. Are we really heading towards a book 371 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: free world? A bookless world? That sounds so sad. 372 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's what I said. Not only is it 373 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 2: a joy, but you learn to read tougher and tougher 374 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: things as you go. Here's Karen's reporting on this earlier, 375 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: which went pretty viral at the time. Says Hillary is 376 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: a sixth grader in Connecticut. For the last five years 377 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: she has been given an English language arts curriculum selected 378 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: by her district. Wonders, published by McGraw hill in twenty twenty. 379 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: We all know McGraw hill from growing up in schools. 380 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: Wonders includes no actual books for Hillary sixth graders. The 381 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: Wonder's grade six curriculum includes only short texts and excerpts. 382 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 2: The average length of those texts is seven points three pages. 383 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: The longest text is just eighteen pages. Those pages, those 384 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 2: page counts include some full page illustrations, so it's actually 385 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: more like thirteen pages. And that's sixth grade. And she 386 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 2: notes that many kids who are hitting chapter book level, 387 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: which would be about fourth fifth, sixth grade even earlier, 388 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: they're not getting introed to smaller chapter books. And I'm 389 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: with you, Carol. The uplifting part about this story is 390 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: that you can correct it in your own home right. 391 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: And I think I stumbled on doing this for my 392 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: kids when schools closed, because I did them out of 393 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: the Zoom school and because I didn't know how to 394 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: do anything else. I said, we're going to read, right, 395 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: And so we read a ton of books. And I 396 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: have readers now as a result. They love to read books. 397 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: I know your kids to two. 398 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Two out of three, you know, well, what are you 399 00:20:59,600 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: going to do? 400 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: That is a pretty good person. 401 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 1: The third one reads books like he doesn't like it. 402 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: He sets a timer for his twenty minutes like you know, 403 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: but he does it. And he finishes them. And he 404 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, he has a certain number of books he 405 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: completes every month. I don't even understand the Oh he doesn't. 406 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: They don't. They just don't read whole books. No, he 407 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: reads whole books again under duress, but nevertheless he does it. 408 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those things that I think 409 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: can creep into curriculum and into K twelve schools in 410 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: such a It's such a horrible idea. It was a 411 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: bad idea from the start. It creeps in and this 412 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: confluence of the school's not wanting to admit they're not 413 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: doing their jobs, plus parents wanting to just see a'son 414 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 2: report cards without pushing their kids. Hey, gets you in 415 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: this really bad position where suddenly, oh, an entire generation 416 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: can't read books. That does seem bad. 417 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: It seems really bad. And it will give such a 418 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: distinct advantage to the kids who can read whole books. 419 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: It helps you in a variety of ways. To be 420 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: able to hold your attention throughout a whole book is 421 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: something that the kids that are just swiping along and 422 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: never reading full books will never have. And I'm telling you, 423 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: the book readers will succeed ahead of them. It's inevitable. Yeah, 424 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: read your guys. Yeah, when you're on vacation in the 425 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: next few weeks. If you have any time off, read 426 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: a book like It's very good for you. It feels great, 427 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: makes you smarter, enjoyable, the whole thing. But I will 428 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: do better than TikTok. 429 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: I will do my annual recommendation. By the way, I 430 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: read aloud a book called The Best Christmas Pageant Ever 431 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: to my children. It's like ninety five pages long. It's 432 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: a novella written in the mid seventies, maybe early seventies. 433 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: The prose is hilarious. The book is great. 434 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: It right now. 435 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: Kids will love it. It has some politically incorrect funny 436 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: stuff in it. 437 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: Perfect. It is a. 438 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: Blast and I cry at the end every year because 439 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: it's so beautiful. So enjoy that with your kids. 440 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: If you say the name one more time, the Best. 441 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: Christmas Pageant Ever. And actually, I'm wondering that's a movie 442 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: of it last year. 443 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: You haven't watched the Oh, I watched the movie. You 444 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: watch it, okay, but I read the book. 445 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: It's our tradition. Okay. 446 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: I thought you were saying you heard Netflix made it, 447 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: but you haven't seen. 448 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 2: No. I was trying to remember who read the movie 449 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: all right. 450 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on normally. Normally airs Tuesdays 451 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: and Thursdays, and you can subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts. 452 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: Get in touch with us at normally theepod at gmail 453 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: dot com. Thanks for listening, and when things get weird, 454 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: act normally