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Speaker 1: this Tuesday. The college football season has a period at
Speaker 1: the end of the sentence, it's over back to back
Speaker 1: national titles for the Big Ten. Wonder what SEC Commissioner
Speaker 1: Greg Sankey is thinking, because it used to be the
Speaker 1: SEC was the powerhouse. But once everybody got an opportunity
Speaker 1: to pay players and transfer portal, all of a sudden
Speaker 1: nil that changed things dramatically. Welcome to the program. Eight
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Speaker 1: cares about a loss of Michigan? You win the national championship.
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Speaker 1: poll question. The Minister of Humor is here, Marvin Paully. Backroom, guys,
Speaker 1: and yours truly, Notre Dame, that was a good year.
Speaker 1: If I would have said back in that weekend when
Speaker 1: they lost in Northern Illinois, they're going to play for
Speaker 1: national championship, you probably would have thought not this year.
Speaker 1: Ohio State beating Michigan. And if I would have said
Speaker 1: after that game, hey, don't worry, they're going to win
Speaker 1: the national title. After they lost to Michigan, they're going
Speaker 1: to win the national title. You have these moments. The
Speaker 1: question is how do you react after those moments? After
Speaker 1: those games. Notre Dame reacted and won and continue to win.
Speaker 1: And Marcus Freeman IS's star in the sport. Ryan Day,
Speaker 1: the embattled Ryan Day. You lose to Michigan again, if
Speaker 1: you don't have a twelve team playoff, you may not
Speaker 1: have Ryan Day winning a national championship this year. In fact,
Speaker 1: you probably don't. But this is college football. Now. Who
Speaker 1: knows what it's going to be like next year or
Speaker 1: in five years from now. But give credit to Ohio
Speaker 1: State because they were the better team. Last night when
Speaker 1: it was thirty one seven, I kept thinking, all right,
Speaker 1: Ohio State, just maybe another field goal so I can
Speaker 1: go to bed. And then all of a sudden, here
Speaker 1: comes Notre Day, and then here comes Notre Day, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I'm going, what's the point spread?
Speaker 1: Eight and a half? Oh my goodness. Now I'm watching,
Speaker 1: and I thought, if they don't get that third and
Speaker 1: nine when they throw it to Jeremiah Smith, Now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you got some people going, all right,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of money the cover of the year.
Speaker 1: When you think about it, it's thirty one to seven,
Speaker 1: and you're going, I'm good. I all these Ohio State
Speaker 1: fans they laid the eight and a half. They're like,
Speaker 1: this is going to be a blowout halftime high five
Speaker 1: in each other. Yeah, hey, I got your beers. Marcus
Speaker 1: Freeman comes out second half, Notre name head coach. He
Speaker 1: looked like he had just been in the washing machine
Speaker 1: and was like what just happened? And then they got
Speaker 1: a couple of plays made it interesting, and Ohio State
Speaker 1: did what they needed to do with a crucial you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, going for it third and nine. Here's Ryan
Speaker 1: day with that call on the completion of Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 3: We felt like we had an advantage with Jeremiah on
Speaker 3: that shot. And you know, we talked about it all week,
Speaker 3: really hadn't thrown one all game, and it was like,
Speaker 3: you know what game in a line, you know, let's go,
Speaker 3: Let's just be aggressive. And I just thought to myself,
Speaker 3: you know, you only even won National championsh I get
Speaker 3: one opportunity, you know, a year to do this. Let's
Speaker 3: just lay it on the line and put it out
Speaker 3: there and be aggressive. And that's what we did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, third and long, and they were aggressive. Notre Dame
Speaker 1: would have gotten the ball back, they'd have had about
Speaker 1: two minutes to go. Maybe maybe we could have had
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Speaker 1: for hour one is going to.
Speaker 2: Be Okay, well, we've got one from here from Marvin.
Speaker 2: We've got a bunch from Todd All has checked in.
Speaker 2: Where would you like to start?
Speaker 1: Dan, I'm going to go Marvin because it's rare when
Speaker 1: Marvin offers up something. Poll question wise.
Speaker 2: If you're an Ohio State fan, you'd rather lose to
Speaker 2: Michigan but win a national title or beat Michigan and
Speaker 2: lose in the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1: I think this is crazy that there are fans it's
Speaker 1: so important to beat Michigan. That has been your identity,
Speaker 1: and yeah, we won a national title, but you need
Speaker 1: to beat Michigan. If you said to Ohio State fans,
Speaker 1: you're going to lose again to Michigan next year, but
Speaker 1: you're going to play for the national championship. You have
Speaker 1: to play for a national championship.
Speaker 2: You would think you would, you would think.
Speaker 1: But you know fan bases, the old school fan base
Speaker 1: how important it was. Because it used to be if
Speaker 1: you lost that game, you weren't playing for a national championship.
Speaker 1: That was the importance of it. Now with the twelve
Speaker 1: team playoff, fourteen team playoffs, sixteen team playoff, Okay, you
Speaker 1: lose bragging rights there, but man, that national title that'll
Speaker 1: cure everything. That's the greater a national title. I have
Speaker 1: an idea.
Speaker 4: I'm to present it to you specifically because you know
Speaker 4: Ohio State in the history. Today is the day to
Speaker 4: start de emphasizing the Michigan game going forward. Step you
Speaker 4: are the national title holders. You're on full scholarship. Now
Speaker 4: going forward, you've got the big payroll. Start using the
Speaker 4: word Michigan when you talk about them. Don't say the
Speaker 4: team up north. Start saying Michigan like you would say
Speaker 4: Ohio State, like you'd say Purdue or Iowa Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: Treat them all the same. But why can't you have both?
Speaker 1: Why can't this still mean so much? But the national
Speaker 1: title is more important than that.
Speaker 4: Because, like we've been saying, it's meaning a little too
Speaker 4: much the past decade, Start de emphasizing it and making
Speaker 4: another game.
Speaker 1: Beat them.
Speaker 4: You're going to beat them or not either way, but
Speaker 4: start saying Michigan, Iowa, Purdue, step.
Speaker 1: One, Ye won't happen. Not the team up north, not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Just not not. Don't fight it. I know,
Speaker 1: just saying, hey, I'm not one of those that would go, boy,
Speaker 1: I'd rather beat Michigan and than win a national title.
Speaker 1: That's silly.
Speaker 4: I want to follow up on that. Okay, there's no
Speaker 4: one who really believes that. That's more of a perception
Speaker 4: of the national media about Ohio State fans. Maybe maybe
Speaker 4: because I can't imagine an Ohio State fan today going,
Speaker 4: you know what, if I could have a duo over
Speaker 4: this year, I would wax Michigan and take it on
Speaker 4: the chin and Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, But like Michigan fans are somehow taking a
Speaker 2: little bit of a victory lap too, being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but we beat the national chair, so I guess we
Speaker 2: really are, like, which is absurd. That's I get how
Speaker 2: tongue in cheek that is too. But these two fan
Speaker 2: bases are that crazy that somehow they find a way
Speaker 2: to take losses and make them wins depending on those circuits.
Speaker 1: Oh, if I'm Michigan, I'm taking a victory lap. Oh
Speaker 1: heck yass. You know you had a bad season, couldn't
Speaker 1: find a quarterback first year without Jim Harball, and you
Speaker 1: beat Ohio State at Ohio State. And this was brought
Speaker 1: up to me by a former Ohio State player last night,
Speaker 1: and he said, you know what changed when Michigan tried
Speaker 1: to plant the flag? He said, that changed this football team.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they in their minds became us
Speaker 1: against the world, and they were underdogs somehow. And I said, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll factor that in that all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Jack Sawyer's grabbing the Michigan flag and throwing it away,
Speaker 1: and now, all of a sudden, there's a different purpose
Speaker 1: with Ohio State. Sure, okay, I mean if you feel
Speaker 1: that that was a seismic shift with his team, they
Speaker 1: became a little bit more I don't know together, but
Speaker 1: there's so much talent there. That's why, you know, when
Speaker 1: we look at Ohio State, it's hard to say that
Speaker 1: they were an underdog. I mean they're incredible. You know,
Speaker 1: you poached guys from around the country. You spent over
Speaker 1: twenty million. I mean, you should be great. The fact
Speaker 1: that you couldn't come up with an offense against Michigan,
Speaker 1: that was what was mind boggling here. I know you
Speaker 1: lose to Oregon, but that was a close game at Oregon.
Speaker 1: This was a great team, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5: So last night Ohio State was David not in order dame. Yeah, okay, no,
Speaker 5: just making sure. Yeah, well David got knocked down. David
Speaker 5: didn't have a slingshot, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: David had a shotgun. And then you're like, here comes David,
Speaker 5: and David's going to put some heat on Ohio State.
Speaker 1: But Ohio State was a better team. Can't imagine that
Speaker 1: somebody's gone, eh, but we better beat Michigan next year.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's pressure on Ryan Day. And
Speaker 1: once again, I grew up in this environment. I grew
Speaker 1: up in Ohio. I understand that feeling when Michigan would
Speaker 1: beat Ohio State and ruin your college football season. But
Speaker 1: I can't imagine somebody like, next year, if Ohio State
Speaker 1: doesn't beat Michigan, that Ryan Day is all of a
Speaker 1: sudden going to be on the hot seat again. Are
Speaker 1: we reheating Ryan Day? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, How in the world can that even be a
Speaker 2: conversation today?
Speaker 1: I trust me, we get to next season, and if
Speaker 1: that happens, then we will be discussing that. People will
Speaker 1: discuss that about Ryan deck Rick new Heizel a little
Speaker 1: bit later on, and I got a couple of questions
Speaker 1: for him, and have great respect for Rick one of
Speaker 1: the smartest college football guys. I know I'm watching Jeremiah
Speaker 1: Smith and he's a freshman. If I said, let's say
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you can have Travis Hunter or Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 1: Who would you take with that second pick overall? Is
Speaker 1: that what it is? Who would you take because you
Speaker 1: got a two way star? Or you have this guy
Speaker 1: who's great. So we'll talk to new Heiseel. Also, who
Speaker 1: is more likely to go to the NFL first, Ryan
Speaker 1: Day or Marcus Freeman. How about that Patriots have the
Speaker 1: fourth pick here. But so we'll talk to Rick new
Speaker 1: Heuizel a little bit later on.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was thinking about nil and Jeremiah Smith as
Speaker 4: a freshman. What is his retention fee to stay at
Speaker 4: Ohio State?
Speaker 1: But if you're Georgia oh like you, you at least
Speaker 1: have to You won a national title at Ohio State,
Speaker 1: So they can't be that mad. If you say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I got to do something for my family
Speaker 1: now I'm a freshman. If you say that, I would,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd at least kicked the tires on it.
Speaker 1: Just say how much am I worth? How much my worth?
Speaker 6: I don't know?
Speaker 1: I mean, is he worth?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 1: A quarterback's worth. I'd say, yes, my surprise is in
Speaker 1: the previous but my surprise is against Texas. I think
Speaker 1: he had three targets. I mean that to me is criminal.
Speaker 1: I would I'd get him the ball no matter what.
Speaker 1: Like there's certain players where you go, I'm gonna devise
Speaker 1: things to get you the ball. You have Chip Kelly
Speaker 1: devise something, and that's what amazed me. Ill will use
Speaker 1: him as a decoy. N let's just use him as
Speaker 1: the best player on the field. They went to him
Speaker 1: last night, I still would have gone to him more.
Speaker 1: Notre Dame plays man coverage. I would have gone to him,
Speaker 1: and I would have kept going to him until they
Speaker 1: put two guys on him, and then I'd take advantage elsewhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, I know all's well in Ohio state Land today.
Speaker 4: But let's say Jeremiah Smith doesn't catch that ball or
Speaker 4: they target someone else. Notredame gets the ball back and
Speaker 4: sends us to overtime. I know it's unlikely, but the
Speaker 4: math was there that Notre Dame can win that Jeremi
Speaker 4: Smith had one second half target.
Speaker 1: I don't get that.
Speaker 4: I was sitting there thinking about the downside, and I
Speaker 4: was like, if Ohio State loses this game, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be catastrophe. If their star player had one or fewer
Speaker 4: targets in the second half.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand it.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of smarter people than me
Speaker 1: that could tell me. But I have to get him
Speaker 1: the ball, have to like remarkable though, I mean, when
Speaker 1: they did go to him, he made the great catch
Speaker 1: and you know his band coverage all right, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 8: Sorry, one more thing?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: Is it too early to play the career salary game
Speaker 5: with Jeremi Smith?
Speaker 1: He should changed the s and put a dollars sign it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's he worth? Ten million dollars? Is that fair?
Speaker 9: I ain't.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks get six seven million dollars. There's nobody like him
Speaker 1: in the country. I don't. I'm sure Ohio State fans
Speaker 1: hate hearing about what if you're Michigan? What if you're
Speaker 1: Michigan and you go, hey, how much we got in
Speaker 1: the collective?
Speaker 10: Hey?
Speaker 1: Can you call Larry Ellison again? You know, one of
Speaker 1: the five richest people in the world and a booster
Speaker 1: there notre name where his wife went to Michigan. Hey, Larry,
Speaker 1: we need ten million dollars? Which four h Jeremiah Smith?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yes, Pully.
Speaker 4: I have on three dot com their NIL valuations and
Speaker 4: they're very spot on. Arch Manning is number one, Carson
Speaker 4: Beck number two. Jeremi Smith, the wide receiver is number three.
Speaker 4: His NIL valuation is four to five million dollars. He's
Speaker 4: the only non quarterback in the top twelve. Yeah, well
Speaker 4: what's he worth?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 1: All right? Eight seven seven three DP show. We'll get
Speaker 1: to other possible pull questions. Yes, Tom, what would be.
Speaker 11: A reasonable number to leave one school for your arch
Speaker 11: rivals where you can feel comfortable with that and not
Speaker 11: get destroyed if you care about your social following, what
Speaker 11: people think of you.
Speaker 1: I would not go to Michigan. I'd go south. And
Speaker 1: he's from Florida. I'd go south.
Speaker 8: Well, Michigan give you like three four million dollars more?
Speaker 8: Is that enough? And you're not getting that money anywhere else?
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I'd think somebody's gonna match the offer,
Speaker 1: But I would I'd be curious what is it costing
Speaker 1: Ohio State to keep him? And does anybody reach out
Speaker 1: to him or one of his middleman or agents or whatever.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break, just getting started, phone
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Speaker 1: Ohio State is the third two loss national champion since
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty six, LSU in two thousand and seven and
Speaker 1: Minnesota back in nineteen sixty. You know, Minnesota used to
Speaker 1: be a powerhouse, like a serious powerhouse. I think they
Speaker 1: won two or three national championships in a row, but
Speaker 1: a long long time ago. But you don't think about
Speaker 1: Minnesota and go boy, Now that's a great football team.
Speaker 1: Minnesota won national titles in nineteen forty and nineteen forty one.
Speaker 1: Ohio State won in nineteen forty two, and then you
Speaker 1: had Minnesota in nineteen sixty. You wouldn't expect Minnesota having
Speaker 1: a couple of national championships. All right, we got to
Speaker 1: settle on a poll question. Marvin already offered up, what
Speaker 1: was your poll question suggestion?
Speaker 8: Would you rather have Michigan if you're Ohio State?
Speaker 13: Game?
Speaker 5: Okay, would have would you rather lose to Michigan win
Speaker 5: a national title or vice versa?
Speaker 1: Matt in Ohio, Hi Matt, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6: Good morning Dan, how you guys doing today?
Speaker 14: Great?
Speaker 15: Great, great, awesome, great city Alima, Ohio from so we
Speaker 15: are on the map a little bit between ann Arbor,
Speaker 15: Michigan and Columbus, so we get a little bit of everything.
Speaker 6: As far as Michigan fans, a high State fans, Notre
Speaker 6: Dame fan.
Speaker 15: To answer Marvin's poll question, the Michigan game to me,
Speaker 15: and as it's starting to lose a little bit of relevance,
Speaker 15: it can still be a great game. But the people
Speaker 15: that are waking up this morning and trying to tell me,
Speaker 15: and I've heard all morning long, that it's still a
Speaker 15: staying national championship because you come and beat Michigan.
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. I don't get it.
Speaker 6: I don't understand where that's coming from, but I do
Speaker 6: in a way. But I always say regular season games
Speaker 6: are like the JV game. You can win that all
Speaker 6: you want, But nobody came on a Friday night in
Speaker 6: high schools them to watch the JV game. They watched
Speaker 6: the varsity game. That's what the national championship was last night.
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Matt. By the way, whenever I
Speaker 1: think of Lima, Ohio, I think of the Thomas Crown Affair,
Speaker 1: because in the movie in the beginning, they pronounced it Lima,
Speaker 1: Ohio and it bothered me the entire movie. And that's
Speaker 1: saying a lot because Renee Russo was topless at one
Speaker 1: point in the movie. I'm still thinking about Lima or Lima, Ohio.
Speaker 1: So the Thomas Crown Affair that Pierce Brosnan was in
Speaker 1: that with Renee Russo. But they say, oh, Lima, Ohio,
Speaker 1: and I go, oh no, no, no, no, It'slima Jamie
Speaker 1: in Ohio. Hi, Jamie, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 16: Good morning? Actually it's Jamie like.
Speaker 1: In in the middle, not Janie's got a gun.
Speaker 16: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Good morning, long, long, long time listener,
Speaker 16: first time caller. I am bleeding Scarlet and Gray. I
Speaker 16: live in Columbus, Ohio, alumni of Ohio State. But I
Speaker 16: gotta tell you, Dan, I'm a little bit sad this morning,
Speaker 16: and I'm kind of mad about it. I feel that
Speaker 16: somehow there's this huge narrative of like the high State
Speaker 16: Buckeyes one. But their fans are so stupid and like
Speaker 16: being a fan Lifelky, I've had a heartbreak after heartbreak
Speaker 16: after heartbreak, and it was so wonderful to win, but
Speaker 16: I kept hearing this stuff that you guys are even saying,
Speaker 16: which is like, you know, they'd rather beat Michigan, you know,
Speaker 16: and it looks like they're idiots. So a bunch of idiots,
Speaker 16: and I think it is such a small, tiny voice
Speaker 16: that the national media likes to take as a narrative
Speaker 16: because it makes a good story.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that those people are idiots. They're
Speaker 1: they're delusional that they get caught up in something. It's
Speaker 1: a myopic view of your season. It's about Michigan. It
Speaker 1: used to be about Michigan. And I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: about you, Jane, but it used to be that was
Speaker 1: your identity. Did you beat Michigan. That's not your identity
Speaker 1: anymore because we do have a twelve team playoff and
Speaker 1: therefore that's why they won a national championship. If you
Speaker 1: didn't have it and it was just the top two
Speaker 1: teams or maybe the top four, then you're going to
Speaker 1: keep that as your identity of beating Michigan. But that's
Speaker 1: not the case anymore.
Speaker 16: I think that's exactly right, and I think that will
Speaker 16: probably play out as this new era comes in. You're right,
Speaker 16: for so many years. I'm sixty years old, so I
Speaker 16: remember so much the seventies and eighties, where really you
Speaker 16: had to beat Michigan to do anything, and honestly, there
Speaker 16: weren't national championship. It was just going to the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 16: So you had to make those things that we don't
Speaker 16: have to do it anymore. But I think it'll still
Speaker 16: be a rival a rivalry, but I think people make
Speaker 16: it what it has to be. And when that's all
Speaker 16: you had, that was live or die with that.
Speaker 1: Okay, after you lost to Michigan, what did you think
Speaker 1: was going to happen to Ryan Day?
Speaker 16: Gosh? I was I don't know. I really hated it,
Speaker 16: frankly because I'm a very sensitive High Estate fan and
Speaker 16: I don't like when fans go against each other, So
Speaker 16: it was I felt like it was very difficulve here
Speaker 16: where some people, and I think it was out of
Speaker 16: pain and frustration and knowing how good this team was
Speaker 16: and just thinking that for whatever reason, Ryan Day's a
Speaker 16: good coach he's a good guy, but he cannot beat Michigan.
Speaker 16: And I think right after that game that was what
Speaker 16: was bubbling up.
Speaker 1: But Jane, you know what's going to happen next year?
Speaker 1: If Michigan beached Ohio State. How are fans going to
Speaker 1: react to that?
Speaker 16: Exactly? Yeah, well, and it's yes, you're exactly right. And
Speaker 16: ohisates beat Michigan a lot in the last twenty years,
Speaker 16: and sometimes I think younger people forget. I mean, I
Speaker 16: went through all the Cooper years when we couldn't beat Michigan.
Speaker 16: So I think you get used to something that you've had,
Speaker 16: and then when you see it not happen, you think,
Speaker 16: oh my god, you know what is this? The earth
Speaker 16: is ending? But it's kind of how rivalries go.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that we have have that rivalry, and Janey, congratulations,
Speaker 1: thanks for the phone call. I'm we don't have many rivalries.
Speaker 1: I like that it means something. Now, does it mean
Speaker 1: a little too much to some people? Yes, But I
Speaker 1: do think this is the minority fan base that it
Speaker 1: might mean more too than somehow winning a national championship.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can pay you know, the entire
Speaker 1: fan base that way. It's weird. It should be joy,
Speaker 1: should be celebrating. And so what if Michigan beat you?
Speaker 1: I mean you got the ultimate scoreboard, you won the
Speaker 1: national championship. Marcus Freeman was talking about being aggressive when
Speaker 1: Ohio State had third and long late in the game
Speaker 1: and if they somehow stop them, they got a chance
Speaker 1: to maybe you know, score touchdown and get a two
Speaker 1: point conversion tie this game. But Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame coach,
Speaker 1: talked about blitzing on that critical third downplay.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we it was do it. It was that type
Speaker 9: of down and you know if they run it, you know,
Speaker 9: when they get a first down, you're gonna we got
Speaker 9: to get them stopped. And we thought at that moment
Speaker 9: the best way to get them stopped is to run
Speaker 9: zero pressure. And we have to have faith at some
Speaker 9: point that we can make a play. And there was
Speaker 9: times in a second half that we did in man coverage.
Speaker 9: But you know, he's a heck of a player. He's
Speaker 9: difficult to cover. You want to play his own and
Speaker 9: they'll find ways to pick your part. You want to
Speaker 9: play man. You know, they find ways to get him
Speaker 9: the ball. And so it's a talented offense. But that's
Speaker 9: that situation right there.
Speaker 1: Judkins was wonderful. Could have given him MVP. He was
Speaker 1: he was great, He was great. But that's a talented team,
Speaker 1: a really really talented team. It's one of those where
Speaker 1: you see the end result and you go, how did
Speaker 1: they lose? How were they shut down at home against Michigan.
Speaker 1: Now Michigan is always great defensively, but it felt like
Speaker 1: Ohio State outsmarted Ohio State going into that game or
Speaker 1: in that game. And then the Oregon game Cross Country Oregon.
Speaker 1: You know, that was great. It was great to see
Speaker 1: Oregon winning that game, and it kind of set up
Speaker 1: the entire season of how good is Oregon and how
Speaker 1: good is Ohio State. But we're starting to see that
Speaker 1: you're going to have more of these where teams get
Speaker 1: picked off because you know, the talent is spread around
Speaker 1: the country. It's not just loaded up with a couple
Speaker 1: of schools. I mean, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan,
Speaker 1: maybe USC maybe Penn State, Clemson maybe, like you're it's
Speaker 1: kind of the same. But then you're going to get
Speaker 1: a couple of outliers there Arizona State, who would have
Speaker 1: thought Boise State. Who would have thought. That's the fun
Speaker 1: part of this as we move forward, and I do
Speaker 1: think it's not going to be a surprise to have
Speaker 1: a team that has two losses that wins the national
Speaker 1: championship again because it's a longer season, more games, playoff games,
Speaker 1: and I just think I think that's what the new
Speaker 1: norm of college football is going to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, and a team like Ohio State can win
Speaker 4: a national title with a good twenty three year old quarterback.
Speaker 4: Maybe not a five star recruit, which Will Howard wasn't,
Speaker 4: but a guy who just played like forty games for
Speaker 4: Kansas State comes in and plays good football with tons
Speaker 4: of talent around.
Speaker 1: Him, and he played well. But he's not a big
Speaker 1: time recruit. I mean he's at Kansas State.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: I watched him at Kansas State, but I have no life,
Speaker 1: and I'm usually watching, you know, those kind of games,
Speaker 1: and I knew he had athleticist Riley Leonard was great.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. Notre Dame got their
Speaker 1: money's worth. You got him from Duke. So once again,
Speaker 1: you're not getting these guys from traditional powerhouses, but sometimes
Speaker 1: that's all you need. And you're seeing a school like
Speaker 1: Notre Dame take transfer portal people, and you know they
Speaker 1: had you know what, eight starters who transferred in I
Speaker 1: think Sam Hartman a couple of years ago. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what's happening now with college football. And I would
Speaker 1: take a twenty two or twenty three year old quarterback
Speaker 1: over an eighteen year old quarterback. Yes, I want to
Speaker 1: have somebody there for four years, but at that position
Speaker 1: in that sport, I got to have somebody who's been
Speaker 1: through their battle tested. A couple of phone calls, let's
Speaker 1: see Dan in Pennsylvania. Hi, Dan, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 17: Hey DP, I'm calling in because I owe Fritzy my
Speaker 17: last pie to the faith and our multiple pie to
Speaker 17: the face bet, so quick recap since the twenty twenty
Speaker 17: two season. I bet that Notre Dame would win a
Speaker 17: national championship in football in the next three seasons, and
Speaker 17: for every year that they don't win, I take a
Speaker 17: pie to the face. So this is the final year
Speaker 17: of the bet, and I need to know what pie
Speaker 17: to take. Also, I'm trying to work on something special
Speaker 17: for you so you can be a little bit patient
Speaker 17: with me. I'm trying to create the video and submit
Speaker 17: I might be able to pull something off that's fun for.
Speaker 18: All of us.
Speaker 1: All right, Todd, what pie should Dan take to the face.
Speaker 8: I'm going to say a slightly warm blueberry pie.
Speaker 1: Slightly warm blueberry, not with his scalding right out of
Speaker 1: the oven.
Speaker 11: No, don't at anybody to be getting third degree burns
Speaker 11: after being rushed to the hospital. But slightly warm blueberry
Speaker 11: cherry would be my set.
Speaker 1: But like second degree burns, you're okay with that? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: something that.
Speaker 8: Looks like something happened to your face, but nothing dreadful.
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yes, that does bring back memories of when Todd and
Speaker 4: I baked the blueberry pie at three fifty for twenty
Speaker 4: five minutes, and then Todd was going to take it
Speaker 4: out with his bare hands, Oh my goodness, and he
Speaker 4: was no joke about to grab a tin with his
Speaker 4: bare hands.
Speaker 8: Paly saved me. I was gonna have to be rushed
Speaker 8: like some kind of local medical.
Speaker 1: No, you would have. You, you would have burned your hand.
Speaker 1: You would have. You've never used an ovenmit, and and
Speaker 1: you we now we think you're joking when you open
Speaker 1: up the oven and you're getting ready like, oh, look
Speaker 1: at look at Todd he's crazy. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I go, oh my god.
Speaker 8: We're stupid. Flash very excited about jumping into that dessert.
Speaker 8: I guess.
Speaker 1: Chris in Sacramento, Hi, Chris, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 19: Thank you for taking my call. Sorry about yesterday. I apologize.
Speaker 19: But here's my dilemma. I want to bet. I'm a
Speaker 19: diehard Eagle fan, and I want to bet James of Virginia.
Speaker 19: I'll give him the points. He could either bet me
Speaker 19: upie of the face, a shower shame, or a will
Speaker 19: of punishment.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, all right, well maybe Tyler can reach out
Speaker 1: to James in Virginia. We'll see if so. You'll take
Speaker 1: You're going to give him the points. I think it's
Speaker 1: six points now with the Eagles, all right, Chris, We'll
Speaker 1: see what we can do with James in Virginia. James
Speaker 1: in Virginia is he is sky high man? Sky High
Speaker 1: got another baby do in August? His commanders like, when
Speaker 1: you like, you're growing with somebody, You're you're walking with somebody,
Speaker 1: and you know, go back to when he would call,
Speaker 1: when he first started calling, he would just say, hail
Speaker 1: the commanders, and they weren't any good and every year,
Speaker 1: like every week, he would call hail to the commanders
Speaker 1: and just to see that they're there in the NFC
Speaker 1: title game. That's awesome. I was talking to a friend
Speaker 1: of mine and yesterday and we were talking about the
Speaker 1: window of opportunity because he knows that I've talked about
Speaker 1: the Niners. I don't know what that window of opportunity
Speaker 1: is now and here we have the Detroit Liones. Now
Speaker 1: I look at the lines differently than I do the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. The forty nine ers spend a lot
Speaker 1: of money, and you're going to spend a lot of
Speaker 1: money on your quarterback. The Rams are going to be there,
Speaker 1: you know, if Stafford comes back, you know, I think
Speaker 1: the Rams would be the favorites in the NFC West.
Speaker 1: So you're looking at window of opportunity Detroit. Now, Ben
Speaker 1: Johnson's going to the Bears. I think it's a great
Speaker 1: hire for Caleb Williams and the Bears. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's a head coach, but I do like that
Speaker 1: they got him and they spent money to get him,
Speaker 1: and they normally don't do those things. If you're not
Speaker 1: getting him, you're getting Pete Carroll. Maybe Pete Carroll may
Speaker 1: now go to the Raiders. Aaron Glenn looks like he
Speaker 1: would be going to the Jets. I don't know who
Speaker 1: goes to the Saints the Jags. I think Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 1: going to get a job, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's the Saints of the Jags. But so you know, now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we're starting to see movement here.
Speaker 1: You still have four teams left. I don't know if
Speaker 1: anybody from these staffs will get an opportunity to come
Speaker 1: in an interview, but the window of opportunity with Detroit,
Speaker 1: you're losing your two coordinators. You still have all of
Speaker 1: your talent, young talent wrapped up with contracts here. So
Speaker 1: that's different than what the forty nine ers future is.
Speaker 1: Detroit still has a bright future now that may only
Speaker 1: be one or two more years. San Francisco, I think
Speaker 1: that window of opportunity closed now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I'm spending fifty to fifty five sixty million dollars on
Speaker 1: my quarterback, Christian McCaffrey. What's his future? Deebo Samuel, what's
Speaker 1: his future? Trent Williams, what's his futu. I mean you
Speaker 1: start to look and you go, they're going to be
Speaker 1: losing some parts here. And Fred Warner, how long can
Speaker 1: he stay at an elite level? I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of questions here, but that's how quickly it changes.
Speaker 1: Andrew and Washington, Hi, Andrew, welcome.
Speaker 6: Back, Hey, thanks to taking my call.
Speaker 14: Good morning, Dan Danet. I just had a real quick
Speaker 14: thing on Will Howard. But real quick. You're an Elvis band.
Speaker 14: I don't know if you caught the Netflix documentary Kings
Speaker 14: of Tupelo has to do with Elvis impersonators, has to
Speaker 14: do with national security. Of course, some crazy Southern storyline,
Speaker 14: So I just wanted to put that out there. But
Speaker 14: I was just really impressed with how Will Howard turned
Speaker 14: his season around after that Michigan loss. You know, he
Speaker 14: had two interceptions. He was nineteen and thirty three in
Speaker 14: that Michigan loss, and then during the College Football playoff
Speaker 14: he threw at a seventy five percent clip and the
Speaker 14: average two hundred and eighty seven and a half yards
Speaker 14: and he had eight touchdowns two interceptions. So although he
Speaker 14: wasn't a great recruit, it just shows like you were saying,
Speaker 14: how much the transfer portal can help you out. But
Speaker 14: if you have time, I also have the stant of
Speaker 14: the day. If I could have a little bit of music, the.
Speaker 16: Dime Die Die.
Speaker 14: The Boston Celtics went to Golden State and achieved the
Speaker 14: win that hadn't been done in over forty years. The
Speaker 14: Celtics beat the Warriors one twenty five eighty five, handing
Speaker 14: them their first home loss by forty or more points
Speaker 14: since January fifteenth, nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 12: The Dime Di.
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Speaker 1: the poll results if you can.
Speaker 2: Yep, I'd be happy to We got Marvin's up there
Speaker 2: for the first hour. If you're an Ohio State fan,
Speaker 2: you'd rather lose to Michigan but win a national title,
Speaker 2: or beat Michigan and lose in the college football playoffs,
Speaker 2: right now I'm happy to report seventy eight percent of
Speaker 2: the people who voted in that would rather lose to
Speaker 2: Michigan but win the national title.
Speaker 1: I'm proudy. What's with the twenty two percent? What are
Speaker 1: we doing?
Speaker 2: God, we have no way to verify if the twenty
Speaker 2: two percent are actually Ohio State fans?
Speaker 1: John in La, Hi, John, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 18: How you guys doing good?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 21: Hey?
Speaker 18: I just wanted to say, and I'm a USA guy,
Speaker 18: I'm not either ohiose there or Michigan. But I do
Speaker 18: feel that if Ohio State had beat Michigan, they don't
Speaker 18: win a national title. They improved by far as a
Speaker 18: team not playing for themselves, but as a team by
Speaker 18: losing Commichigon. If you look at if you watch the
Speaker 18: games after, they were a whole different team.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had a former Ohio State player who said
Speaker 1: the same thing. It changed after Michigan tried to plant
Speaker 1: the flag, and it's almost as if they were You
Speaker 1: take talent for granted sometimes like can we're going to win,
Speaker 1: We're supposed to win, We're the most talented team of
Speaker 1: the country, and then all of a sudden you get humbled.
Speaker 1: Then you react two different ways, and we saw that
Speaker 1: just like when Notre Dame loses had home to Northern
Speaker 1: Illinois and you're thinking, oh my goodness, well we saw
Speaker 1: what happened after that. They went on a run. John
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, Hi, John, what's on your mind today? Good morning, Dan?
Speaker 20: I got a good college trivia question for you and
Speaker 20: the boys. All right, There's only ever been two coaches
Speaker 20: in the history of college football to have competed in
Speaker 20: and won all five of the major bowl games, that
Speaker 20: being the Orange Row, Sugar Fiesta and Cotton.
Speaker 1: Joe Paterno, very good, Bob Stoops.
Speaker 13: Oh excellent, excellent, Dan, you got them both both correct.
Speaker 13: All right. Your last show, John Fogerty doing center field
Speaker 13: because that's what you are in your in your wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: All right. I'd love to have John Fogerty on again.
Speaker 1: Zach and Grand Rapids. Hi, Zach, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 16: Hey?
Speaker 21: How's it going?
Speaker 16: Dan?
Speaker 21: Everyday listener just wanted to talk about the Michigan Ohio
Speaker 21: state poll question. First of all, I want to start
Speaker 21: off by saying that I got swirling emotions right now
Speaker 21: because I'm a Detroit Lions fan and feeling a lot
Speaker 21: of resentment right now. So it was tough last night
Speaker 21: to watch that Ohio State Notre Dame game because it
Speaker 21: was like which needy to cut off, you know. But
Speaker 21: the only thing that kept me going through it was
Speaker 21: hoping that I'd get to see Lou Holtz lap in
Speaker 21: his recliner's hair at Ryan Day when he lost. But
Speaker 21: to go back to Jane's comments, I don't understand how
Speaker 21: she doesn't understand the narratives of Ohio State fans. I mean,
Speaker 21: this goes back deep. I feel like Ohio State fans
Speaker 21: are hated, not just by Michigan fans, And there's a
Speaker 21: deep resentment for Ryan Day because the COVID year, he
Speaker 21: said he was going to put up one hundred against us,
Speaker 21: you know, and has it won.
Speaker 8: Sense.
Speaker 21: I love the hardball comment that he was born on
Speaker 21: third base. But as a Michigan fan, you know, they
Speaker 21: get the top recruits every year, they you know, dump
Speaker 21: nil money into their program, which is the trending thing
Speaker 21: to do. But they still come up short against Michigan
Speaker 21: at least for the last four years. And I me,
Speaker 21: as a Michigan fan, thinks it's going to be longer.
Speaker 21: But we're still their daddy.
Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you, Zach. Take a victory lamp.
Speaker 1: If you're a Michigan fan, sure, I mean not a
Speaker 1: big victory lap. If you're a Lions fan, but you
Speaker 1: know you beat Ohio State, go ahead, beget a victory lamp.
Speaker 1: Doug in North Carolina, Hi, Doug, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7: Well, I'm one of the twenty two percent, then, and
Speaker 7: I take I take as my guide exhibit A the
Speaker 7: famous words of one Woody Hayes, who is rolling over
Speaker 7: as grave at how related the folks from Ohio are today.
Speaker 7: He famously said, you can't claim a national championship unless
Speaker 7: you win the game. The only thing that matters is
Speaker 7: how many times he beat Michigan. That's what he hates.
Speaker 7: It's the game. And yes there's an asterisk, and yes
Speaker 7: you had a wonderful season, and yes you did what Listen,
Speaker 7: you can go to prom and your day can look beautiful.
Speaker 7: But if it's not Jenny batch it doesn't matter. That's
Speaker 7: my opinion. There's an asterisk next to the national Championship.
Speaker 1: And Jane's Jenny Batchie, Jenny Batchie, get that correct, there, dog,
Speaker 1: Thank you for your phone call. Part of the twenty
Speaker 1: two percent. That would rather beat Michigan than win a
Speaker 1: national championship. It's crazy, crazy, yeah, Paulin.
Speaker 4: There's no asterisk, but I could see how an Ohio
Speaker 4: STA State fan would be bummed that Michigan can talk
Speaker 4: during the offseason. Weirdly, it's it's like, I'll rock in
Speaker 4: your shoe when everything's going well. I would be okay
Speaker 4: with it, yes, okay, but I wish it didn't have
Speaker 4: to beat. If I were in an Ohio State fan, oh
Speaker 4: my god, not a big deal.
Speaker 1: I can't be that insecure that I'm gonna go well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. You guys did beat us. I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to watch that national title game again.
Speaker 1: What do you guys?
Speaker 14: Were you?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's why you played Alabama in a bowl game, right,
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